1 00:00:00,001 --> 00:00:14,500 Welcome, everybody to podcast answers the show, where I help you start and grow your podcast, 2 00:00:14,500 --> 00:00:22,040 answering any podcasting questions along the way. That's right. Today is, again, we're doing the 3 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:27,520 same thing. We're answering podcasting questions. And this one is one that I've seen a lot, 4 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:32,200 not necessarily the direct question. And I've talked about it before. I've talked about 5 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:39,080 using Notion for podcasting and keeping all of things in Notion, but I never really went over it. 6 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:44,860 And I wanted to talk a little bit more about it and how I use Notion because Notion for me is one 7 00:00:44,860 --> 00:00:50,520 of those things that is essential. So back when I first started podcasting, a lot of times I keep 8 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:55,820 my show notes in a Google Doc. And that works great, right? I mean, Google Docs work good. 9 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:03,480 They allow you to put everything in Google Docs, you know, whatever, and keep your show notes in 10 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,240 there. And the nice thing about that is because you can work on that with somebody else. So let's say 11 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:16,260 that you were working with a co-host and you want to have your show notes available for you to kind 12 00:01:16,260 --> 00:01:20,380 of talk as you're doing this, especially that works great if you're in different locations, 13 00:01:20,380 --> 00:01:28,840 you're not sitting in front of each other at the same studio. But there's more that you can do. 14 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:34,100 So I still do that for my shows. I keep my show notes in there for my other podcast, 15 00:01:34,100 --> 00:01:40,880 the Dudes and Dads podcast. But for this podcast, podcast answers, I do not put anything in to 16 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:46,120 into a Google Doc. I just don't I don't do that. I don't put it in a Google Doc. I don't 17 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:53,520 use it like that. I all I do is I actually use what's called Notion. And Notion is interesting 18 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:59,800 because it allows you to do notes. But it does databases too, which is where I'm actually going 19 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:04,080 to use it. And so I'm going to talk a little bit today about Notion and why it's important and what I 20 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:10,520 use it for. So this is going to be a graphic heavy one. So if you're listening in the podcast app, 21 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:19,560 I would definitely ask you to check out podcast answers dot com slash notion slash video. And that 22 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:24,900 will take you to the YouTube video of this because I think you're going to lose some of the some of some 23 00:02:24,900 --> 00:02:30,620 of the description. I can describe it the best I can in audio, but some of the stuff you're actually 24 00:02:30,620 --> 00:02:35,720 going to need to see. And so I would again, I would go to podcast answers dot com slash notion 25 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:42,660 and O T I O N slash video if you want to see the video for this, because again, this is a pretty, 26 00:02:42,660 --> 00:02:51,180 a pretty heavy, heavy topic when it comes to talking about what actually is notion. So this right here is 27 00:02:51,180 --> 00:02:57,180 notion. It's it's it's pretty, pretty nice because you can down here on the left hand side, you have 28 00:02:57,180 --> 00:03:02,780 all of your notes, you have your private notes and and and what you can do and I'll go ahead and show 29 00:03:02,780 --> 00:03:08,540 you my podcast answers notebook. So this is the private podcast answers notebook. You can see the 30 00:03:08,540 --> 00:03:14,720 content dashboard right here to the link to something else. And this is my podcast answers dashboard. I have 31 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:21,180 a section for news topics and I was doing a summer of live this summer. And so I had topics in there for 32 00:03:21,180 --> 00:03:28,240 that. But so what I what I do is once this flushes out here, you'll see this is essentially just a giant 33 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:35,800 spreadsheet kind of of topics. But the cool thing about it is you can filter it, you can add all sorts 34 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:45,000 of different columns for it. And so for instance, here, I have my database is, you know, the name of the 35 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:50,440 the show. I don't have I'm not using any tags. And then I have the episodes of season one, episode 36 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:55,680 one, season one, episode two, season one, episode three, blah, blah, blah. And then I have the type, 37 00:03:55,680 --> 00:04:02,800 which is I can and I can again, I can set this to be what I want. And so for this, I have the type being 38 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:10,500 full bonus or YT videos. So YT videos just being a video that's only on YouTube, that is not anything to 39 00:04:10,500 --> 00:04:17,020 do with the podcast episode full being a full one, a bonus being a bonus episode. Then I have a recorded 40 00:04:17,020 --> 00:04:23,840 checkmark, I have a published date, so I can see it. And then I have the post URL. And actually, I have a whole 41 00:04:23,840 --> 00:04:29,080 lot more than that. That's just what's showing on this very first like screen, if you will, of 42 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:37,020 of the database. So this is the list. But if I click on let's go back down to one of the latest ones that I've done 43 00:04:37,020 --> 00:04:41,900 here. So the last one, the interview tips with Katie Fox, if I click those where it says open, 44 00:04:41,900 --> 00:04:51,280 now I'm actually opening the actual record of in the database. And so if you if you see now you see all 45 00:04:51,280 --> 00:04:56,840 of those things. So you see tags, you see chapters, I will link for my chapters, my cover art link, I have 46 00:04:56,840 --> 00:05:03,340 a link for dynamic insertion points, I have an embed for my video player, for my for my player, 47 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:09,600 I have the episode which you saw on the front page, I have featured image, I have media URL, which is the URL for the 48 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:15,500 MP3. I have notes, which is kind of my description of the episode. And if you if you click in there, you can see 49 00:05:15,500 --> 00:05:22,800 it, you can easily copy it, you have a post URL, published date recorded, if I had soundbites, I could put the soundbite 50 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:30,480 time periods in there, the transcript episode, YouTube link, and then I have some notes down here. So 51 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:36,260 essentially, this is like, your full record for it. So this is where you have like text that you can put in 52 00:05:36,260 --> 00:05:43,120 it. But then you can also have whatever, but then these are your your fields, if you will, properties, if you 53 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:51,380 will. And so what I'm what I'm using this for is, I'm using this for keeping my, my show notes, 54 00:05:51,380 --> 00:05:58,600 all together. And so essentially, as I'm building my show, I have, if I'm doing any research, I put 55 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,760 them in here. And so that way, I'm, I'm able to go back and see like, when I'm recording an episode, 56 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:07,940 I actually have this up, and I'm looking over to it quickly. And I'm saying, Okay, these are my notes 57 00:06:07,940 --> 00:06:11,940 for this episode, these are the topics that I want to talk about, because it allows me to, 58 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:20,200 to take that and, and, and work off of it and actually run my show while I'm while I'm doing that. 59 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:26,920 But not only that, but then afterwards, I, I get all of this information. So once I've uploaded my 60 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:33,300 cover art, and I uploaded my, my chapters and my transcripts, and, and all of the stuff, I have 61 00:06:33,380 --> 00:06:38,240 links to that. So that way, when I actually go create the actual episode, and I again, if you've 62 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:42,960 never heard me talk about this, I actually create my episode in WordPress. So I'm, I'm using captivate 63 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:51,700 to hold to I'm using captivate to host my podcast, but I'm using WordPress to actually create my, 64 00:06:51,700 --> 00:07:00,420 my actual RSS feed and my, and my other, my other stuff and my posts and things like that. So 65 00:07:00,420 --> 00:07:05,880 that's where I want to, this is what that's where notion comes in huge. Because for me, 66 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:10,960 as I'm building out, so I've uploaded my things to captivate. And if you want to check out captivate, 67 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:16,200 go to podcast answers.com slash captivate, and that'll get you over to captivate. And you'll be able 68 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:21,640 to check out captivate and why I love captivate, I have done an episode on it. And it's just an 69 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:28,460 amazing podcast host. But once I've uploaded my information to, to captivate, what I then do is 70 00:07:28,460 --> 00:07:35,960 I go back into notion. So I go back in and I say, Okay, here's, here's the notion that I'm doing. 71 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:43,480 This is this is notion. And what I end up doing is then I say, Okay, as I'm working in WordPress, 72 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:51,320 I end up going through and grabbing and it's really easy because if you click on it in here, it 73 00:07:51,580 --> 00:07:55,880 lets you paste it in. But you can also hover over and then just click this little clipboard here, 74 00:07:55,880 --> 00:08:00,560 copy to clipboard. So if I click, click that, then it takes it and place it in my clipboards. 75 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:05,080 And I can just go into my publisher, paste it where I need to paste it where I need to. But the nice 76 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:10,360 thing about this is now I have all of this information for all of these episodes. And it's super, 77 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:17,660 it's super searchable. So let's go back into topics here. I can take it and I can put this little 78 00:08:17,660 --> 00:08:25,560 thing here and I can say I can search anything so I can do season two, episode three, two. And I'm 79 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:29,340 going to get everything listed up that has those episodes, those things in there. And I can see 80 00:08:29,340 --> 00:08:33,760 quickly easily if someone says, Hey, how do I get to that podcast episode? Or I can say, 81 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:39,980 you know, I know I've interviewed somebody. Who was it? Oh, I know I episode Katie Fox one time. 82 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:46,160 So if I go in here and search Katie, it pulls it up, I can see the URL for it really easily, 83 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:50,820 copy it and paste it, send it out. I can go in here and I can get any of the information that I need to 84 00:08:50,820 --> 00:08:58,020 get really quickly and send that to where I need to send it to. And so for me, this database is more 85 00:08:58,020 --> 00:09:05,880 than just show notes. It's more than just having that information. It's having that information available 86 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:12,880 to you at your fingertips at any time. And so the cool thing about that is it allows you to 87 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:20,400 recall any of that information really, really easily. And so what I've done in my other podcast 88 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:27,260 where I actually have sponsors, I've actually created one of the fields sponsor fields. 89 00:09:27,260 --> 00:09:32,360 And so I've been able to say, okay, if they want to know when they were sponsored on the episode, 90 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:36,080 one episode they were sponsored on, I can go back and pull a whole list for them really easily. 91 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:43,220 And then it's just super easy to, it's super easy to go ahead and get that information to them. 92 00:09:43,220 --> 00:09:49,040 Now, the other thing is, again, this is a database, right? And so this is like, like, 93 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:54,020 like you're, like you're seeing here and this is a database. And so this is just the display of 94 00:09:54,020 --> 00:10:00,520 the links, but you can change that. So like right now, I have everything showing, 95 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:07,660 but I can show up episode ideas. And this is the same database. It's the same information. I'm just 96 00:10:07,660 --> 00:10:14,040 filtering it down. And so what I've done is I've gone in here and call it a filter, and it has two 97 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:22,580 rules. And it's where recorded is blank. So my recorded check is blank. And type contains full, 98 00:10:22,680 --> 00:10:28,220 because I don't want it to be, I don't want it to show things that are YouTube or bonus content. 99 00:10:28,220 --> 00:10:34,600 I just want episode ideas for full. And so I, what I, what I do is I go in here and every time I think 100 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:42,100 about something and they get nice thing is, is notion has a, an iPhone app. And so it's really easy for 101 00:10:42,100 --> 00:10:46,860 you to just keep notion on your phone. And as you're going throughout your day, and you're seeing things 102 00:10:46,860 --> 00:10:51,300 that you're like, Oh yes, that would be a perfect episode for podcast answers. 103 00:10:51,300 --> 00:10:59,600 All I have to do is I have to go in here, open the app, type in the title or type in, 104 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,660 you know, the topic, whatever it is that I want to, that I want to feature. 105 00:11:04,700 --> 00:11:09,880 And then because it's not recorded, I just make sure that it has the post type full. 106 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,060 It's going to show up on those ideas and filter when I can filter out. 107 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:19,080 And again, I could do one that's, that's this, you know, this is episode ideas. I have one that's all ideas. 108 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:24,400 So again, things that are not recorded, but they're any of the types. 109 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:29,600 I have a published. So you see only things that are published. So you don't see any of my episodes in here 110 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:36,160 that don't have a recorded checkmark in it. These are all of my episodes going back to the very, very beginning. 111 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:44,620 And, and, and you can sort on any then field. So right now I'm published date ascending, which I 112 00:11:44,620 --> 00:11:49,000 just realized I don't have a published date in all of my episodes. That's why there's some of them are 113 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,780 showing at the bottom here and they really shouldn't be because they're actually published. But so that's 114 00:11:52,780 --> 00:12:00,420 not super helpful, but you can do all sorts of different things with this, right? You can say, 115 00:12:00,780 --> 00:12:10,840 you can show episode calendar so that you can display things differently. So you can say on this 116 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:16,000 one, what I'm doing is I'm filtering to just recorded checked, and then it's going to show on the 117 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:24,260 calendar, the, the published date. So this is really cool. So you can take a look and say, okay, this is 118 00:12:24,260 --> 00:12:30,360 when I actually publish these episodes on a, on a calendar. And so again, this is a really handy thing. 119 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:34,040 So let me, let me, let me walk you through this a little bit here. Let's go ahead. I'm going to go 120 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:42,120 ahead and create another one just so we can test it out. So this is a new page and this is a, I have a 121 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:46,700 couple of different things in mind. This, this notion is not just for podcast answers. So we're going to 122 00:12:46,700 --> 00:12:54,520 call this test podcast. Now what you do is you have, you have, you can write anything in here. You can do 123 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:59,940 whatever you want. This is just like a document at this point. It has no extra fields in it. It's 124 00:12:59,940 --> 00:13:05,640 just a document, but you can go slash, and then you can put different formatting in here, like to-do 125 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:12,660 lists, headings, tables, whatever you want. But one of the cool things you can do is you can, you know, 126 00:13:12,660 --> 00:13:17,040 data, you can do all sorts of different things. So, but one of the cool things is you can do these 127 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:25,320 databases with line charts and bar charts and donut graphs and all sorts of cool things, 128 00:13:25,620 --> 00:13:35,160 all sorts of cool things. And so what you can do is graph your data, however you want. Right. But so 129 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:39,840 I'm going to say database full page. And so what that does is it, if you look over here on the left, 130 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:45,540 it creates this test podcast page. And then underneath it, it puts the untitled page. So if we go back to 131 00:13:45,540 --> 00:13:51,020 it, you'll see a link to that. And if we, we title this something like episodes, 132 00:13:51,020 --> 00:13:59,120 now what we can do is we can use, you'll see that it's just episodes underneath. So under like what 133 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:05,380 I've done on mine is podcast answers. And then I have news topics, summer of live, different, 134 00:14:05,380 --> 00:14:11,400 different things under, underneath that. But so now I have episodes and again, there's a table, 135 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:17,940 as you can see, cause it is a database. So then what you start doing is you start doing, 136 00:14:17,940 --> 00:14:23,220 editing your properties. So you can say, instead of calling it name, which I left my name, 137 00:14:23,220 --> 00:14:25,360 you could call it episode title. 138 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:32,980 And then you could do a plus in here and you could do all sorts of different things. Text, 139 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:41,240 number, status, multi-select status, select person, date, files, immediate checkboxes, 140 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:49,380 URLs, email, phone numbers, formulas, relations, rollups. I mean, you, you have the possibilities 141 00:14:49,380 --> 00:14:55,680 are endless here, what you can do with it. It's really, really cool. And so, like I said, 142 00:14:55,680 --> 00:15:01,720 if I'm building this out, I would say episode title. And then probably what I would do is I would do an 143 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:11,100 episode description, and this is going to be a, uh, field here that you can type in a lot of 144 00:15:11,100 --> 00:15:17,260 different things. And then you could, what I would do is I would go in here and I would say, um, status. 145 00:15:17,260 --> 00:15:21,740 So you could do the status that are not started. You can edit your properties in here, create the 146 00:15:21,740 --> 00:15:27,740 different things. So if you wanted to have, you know, edited, if you want to make sure you had edited 147 00:15:27,740 --> 00:15:32,540 things edited, you could do that. You can go back in here and delete your properties, right? So it's, 148 00:15:32,540 --> 00:15:39,380 it's pretty easy to do that. And so again, then I would say, um, let's go ahead and put a date in 149 00:15:39,380 --> 00:15:47,480 here and we're going to call this published. And so that what this will do is it allowed me to have 150 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:51,600 the date that it was published. And if I click on it and it has a date picker, it's easy to do that. 151 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:56,080 Um, so I'm just going to create something super, super, super easy here. Super, 152 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:03,800 super easy and not a lot involved. So select, I can do a select. And then what you can do is 153 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:14,880 click in here and say that you want it, the properties to be, um, idea. You can have it be, 154 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:28,820 um, a full show, right? Whatever you want to do. So these are, this is the way that you would create 155 00:16:28,820 --> 00:16:34,700 these databases in notion. And then what you can do is again, you have this table view, but you can 156 00:16:34,700 --> 00:16:39,620 create all sorts of different views. You can say you wanted a board, a chart, a list, a timeline, 157 00:16:39,620 --> 00:16:47,500 calendar, gallery, like this is where it really, the rubber hits the road because now you could say 158 00:16:47,500 --> 00:16:53,520 this is a list and you could do, you could filter it on, on things. So there's nothing in that one. 159 00:16:53,520 --> 00:17:03,440 So now this is a test episode. This is just a test episode and it will be released on the 11th. 160 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:08,760 We'll just call it that. Now, if you go to list, you're seeing the list of it, your test episode. 161 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:15,260 If you click on it, edit it, you can open it. You can see the whole record here, if you will, 162 00:17:15,260 --> 00:17:19,940 together, add comments, add properties. And the nice thing is you can go back anytime and add 163 00:17:19,940 --> 00:17:27,360 properties. So like I said, I just went ahead and added a property for my sponsor. So that way I can 164 00:17:27,360 --> 00:17:32,500 go through and filter on all the episodes, which have the specific sponsors on them. So that way, 165 00:17:32,500 --> 00:17:36,960 if the person, the sponsor is looking for, Hey, which episodes was I on? 166 00:17:37,900 --> 00:17:42,660 I can go ahead and pull that out. I can go ahead and say exactly when it was. And if I want to take 167 00:17:42,660 --> 00:17:51,180 that further, I could say, here's the time chunk that the sponsors are in. So let's just say I had, 168 00:17:51,180 --> 00:17:56,180 I wanted to have a field that said advertisement time slot. I could have it from five minutes, 169 00:17:56,180 --> 00:18:01,640 20 seconds through six minutes, 30 seconds. And that way they know exactly when their sponsor, 170 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,960 sponsor to add hit in there. If you wanted to give that information to them, 171 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,720 because let's be honest, my sponsors aren't at the same time, every, 172 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:13,820 every episode, I'm not at the beginning and not at the end. I'm not at the same spot. It's going to 173 00:18:13,820 --> 00:18:21,260 be different. And so this is where it comes down to, you can, you can take this information and you can 174 00:18:21,260 --> 00:18:27,340 do some amazing things. And now this is the great thing about this is notion and it's at notion.so or 175 00:18:27,340 --> 00:18:34,580 notion.com. Both will take you there, but they have a free, a free tier, which actually is, 176 00:18:34,580 --> 00:18:40,540 it's pretty amazing. I mean, I mean, I'm using the free tier and it, it's enough for me. It has like, 177 00:18:40,540 --> 00:18:45,040 I think unlimited notes in it and it has, you can don't, you can limited the amount of team members 178 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:54,420 you can have, but I mean, that's really okay. That's really okay. And, and because you don't, 179 00:18:54,420 --> 00:18:58,780 yeah, I mean, you can have more team members in here if you're, if you're running a, a big production 180 00:18:58,780 --> 00:19:04,800 and things like that, but you don't need to. And so this is, this is their free tier. I would check 181 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:12,860 it out. Cause again, it's, it's something that, that works well for most people. Um, you know, 182 00:19:12,860 --> 00:19:22,160 again, I'm, I'm using the free tier and it works. And the great thing is you can go ahead and it's 183 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:29,320 notion.com and I will put that up on the screen here and it's really white. So it's washing my, 184 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:39,120 me out. But again, the pricing on this is for free. You have a collaborative workspace, integrate with 185 00:19:39,120 --> 00:19:46,280 Slack, GitHub, and more basic page analytics, seven day page history, invite 10 guests, 186 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:52,580 but you could go to $10 per seat per month and you could get 30 days page history, a hundred guests, 187 00:19:52,580 --> 00:19:57,740 sync database with third-party apps, custom websites, custom automations, charts and dashboards, 188 00:19:57,740 --> 00:20:01,320 and unlimited blocks for teams. And just the list goes on. 189 00:20:02,620 --> 00:20:07,880 The list goes on. And it's like I said, it's, it's really an amazing, it's really an amazing product. 190 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:14,280 It's something that's changed the way that I do my podcasting because it'll, again, a notion it's 191 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:24,680 allowing me to, to keep all of my podcast episodes and all of my information in a database. 192 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:29,720 And I have that database. And again, all of the information is involved. If I have graphics in there, 193 00:20:29,780 --> 00:20:35,020 they're, they're linked in there. I can, I can do so much stuff with it. 194 00:20:35,020 --> 00:20:39,480 Guys, if you have any comments, if you're watching right now and you have any comments, 195 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:44,080 questions about notion, put them down in the YouTube chat comments. I would love to answer them, 196 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:51,700 but I am using notion for my podcast for, for keeping all of my, my information in it. 197 00:20:51,820 --> 00:20:57,140 So again, you can see here, this is my, this is my podcast episode titles. 198 00:20:57,140 --> 00:21:05,480 It has all sorts of things. I can keep it. This is where I keep my ideas for new episodes. 199 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:10,520 It's where I keep all of that stuff for, for my podcast. And again, it's, it's, it's free. 200 00:21:11,060 --> 00:21:16,820 So check it out. Definitely just check it out. Notion.com and OTION.com will get you 201 00:21:16,820 --> 00:21:26,460 over to this notion app where you can create a database for yourself, for your show. It's amazing 202 00:21:26,460 --> 00:21:32,620 because it allows you to keep all of that information about your show handy and able to get it out when 203 00:21:32,620 --> 00:21:39,640 you need it. So guys, thank you so much for, for joining me this time. Uh, again, if you were 204 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:45,660 listening to the podcast episode in the podcast app, I would definitely recommend that you check out, 205 00:21:45,660 --> 00:21:52,740 uh, podcast answers.com slash notion slash video. That'll take you to the YouTube video. 206 00:21:52,740 --> 00:21:58,940 Cause this is a really graphic episode as far as graphic heavy in order to see what I'm talking about. 207 00:21:58,940 --> 00:22:03,540 you can listen, you can listen, you can listen, but unless you can see, you're not going to be able 208 00:22:03,540 --> 00:22:09,960 to know exactly what I'm talking about with notion. So again, guys, head over to podcast answers.com 209 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:15,820 slash contact. If you need help getting your podcast started, have a great week. And until next time, 210 00:22:15,820 --> 00:22:17,340 keep podcasting. 211 00:22:17,340 --> 00:22:19,400 you 212 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:19,900 you 213 00:22:19,900 --> 00:22:22,100 Thank you.