Lauryn: [00:00:00] do you just go by Amanda?
Wilcox: I do.
Lauryn: Okay. It's not Mandy or
Wilcox: No. Well, I was, but back in the day
when I had like a side ponytail and it was like 1992, my mom used to call me Mandy,
but it never stuck.
Lauryn: It never stuck. Okay. Well I get well, welcome to the podcast Amanda slash Mandy. Um.
Wilcox: Now that's good. Now I'm gonna get Mandy. Now I'm now I'm gonna go into my forties and I'm gonna be like, I'm Mandy now
with an eye with a heart over it.
Lauryn: so, okay. So that's actually question one is like, so how old are you?
Wilcox: I'm 39.
Lauryn: Oh, I turned 39 this year.
Wilcox: I just turned 39 last month.
Lauryn: okay, so you were born in 86.
Yeah. This is, that was a big year as far as like vaccines and stuff too. So like I look back and I'm like trying to figure out, I'm like, okay, wait, what month did that pass?
When did I, I don't think there was a huge [00:01:00] bump until like the nineties, right?
Wilcox: I don't think so either.
Lauryn: I think we were pretty protected.
Wilcox: I think so. Except my mom's a nurse, so I wasn't.
Lauryn: Oh yeah. And we have to take into account that like in the eighties, I don't know what they were giving our moms while they were pregnant or like for labor like.
Wilcox: I don't know either. All I know is my mom had me when she was 19 and she turned 20 in the summer. So she had me in January, turned 19 in the summer or turned 20. And um, she, she was always like, I weighed 120 pounds when I was full term pregnant with you.
And I'm like, yeah, well.
Lauryn: Okay. Moms? Yeah, no, I, yeah, no. So I tell this story too often on the podcast, but it's, I, so I was born in Southern California and I don't get armpit hair, which. It's weird 'cause my mom, I know my mom gets armpit hair. Like, it's not like a genetic thing. But, um, I [00:02:00] like, fast forward 16 years, I'm on the dance team in Wisconsin, like, okay, far from California talking to another, like, we're like stretching, warming up for practice.
And like, somehow she's like, oh yeah, I don't get armpit hair either. And I was like, that's crazy. And I was like, wait a minute, aren't you also from Southern California? She was born in the same hospital two years earlier though. She was like a senior. And she also, so like, it's just like, what the fuck were they doing
to pregnant women in Southern California in that time?
And honestly, I do wanna know just because like, let's keep doing it. Like let's, let's keep doing it because I'm pretty anti a lot of things. Oh, I have like barely any, like I shave like, uh, so we literally just went to Mexico, um, in January and I am like laying out and I was like, oh shoot, I forgot to shave.
You could not tell at all. [00:03:00] Like I haven't shaved, I'm feeling it right now and it feels like I shaved five minutes ago and I don't know if I've shaved my leg since November. So I also don't get like hair that I kind of bury the lead with that. Yeah. So yeah, so like, let's just maybe keep that vaccine or injection or like, whatever
Wilcox: hormone therapy, whatever it
Lauryn: they did to the pregnant women.
Like let's just keep that one going actually.
Wilcox: yes, I'm a agree. I'm in agreeance. Yes.
Lauryn: So, okay. So I, I found you through Instagram where a lot of people find you, you're the uncensored nurse. So what is, what is your background?
Wilcox: I feel like on liar. Liar. When he's like, tell you all the things. Um. So, like I said before, my mom's a nurse and I grew up my whole life being like, I am not going into healthcare. I don't want anything to do with it. I just, I wanted to do, like, my [00:04:00] whole family's in healthcare and
I just didn't,
Lauryn: was that? Because you saw like the demands of healthcare or you were just being like, Ew, everybody does healthcare. I'm gonna do something completely different.
Wilcox: I was like, I wanna do something completely different. So I, I wanted to be first, it's really ironic what all I wanted to do and now what I do now. So I was like, I'm gonna be, uh, write a journalist. So I like wrote for a newspaper in high school, like this program or whatever, and then I was like, uh, newspaper journalists don't make any money, so I'm gonna change my mind here.
So then I decided I was gonna do be like a sociologist type of person. And then I realized that in order to make any money there, I was gonna have to be like a psychiatrist and actually go to med school. And I was like, nah, I'm not trying to do all that. So three different majors in my freshman year of college, I went home with my tail between my legs and I was like, fine, I'll go to nursing [00:05:00] school because I knew. I knew enough about nursing that I was like, it's a two year degree. The hospital will pay for it. I'll be guaranteed a job, and I know what it entails. So I wasn't like half of my first nursing class
Lauryn: your mom was a nurse?
Wilcox: we have to touch people. I'm like, yeah, what do you, what do you think? Like it's, it's nursing.
Have you ever been inside a hospital? So I did that, and then I worked, I, I spent the next probably 10 years of my nursing career trying to figure out what type of nursing I liked.
'cause I didn't really love any of them. I didn't love Med surg. I tried the er, I tried the ICU. I tried ortho. Ortho was, I liked that one.
Okay. Um, I did home care. I did travel nursing, I did administration. I did like, I was like, I'm just gonna try everything.
I'm gonna figure it out. Turns out I ha I hate healthcare is really what the
Lauryn: Like what was, what was the things that [00:06:00] you like didn't like that you were, or is it that you, okay. Actually, I'm gonna rephrase that question. As you would keep switching different types of nursing, was it something that you were trying to get away from, or something that you were trying to get to?
Wilcox: Both.
So I, one, I hate being told what to do.
Lauryn: Oh, well,
Wilcox: that's. a problem,
Lauryn: That's like, I'm not a nurse, but I'm pretty sure that I know the hierarchy of every system. And you, their bitch, you their underappreciated bitch. I'm pretty sure I follow enough of you on
Wilcox: Yeah. So I'm like, okay. I don't like being told what to do. And I also, I had this entrepreneur spirit in my body for a really
long
Lauryn: the whole, I don't like being told what to do.
Wilcox: And I'm like, I was like, I, I, this, okay, this is okay for now. But eventually I always somehow knew, I'm like, I'm not gonna do this forever. This isn't, I'm not gonna be 65 years old.
The charge nurse that has been here since the dawn [00:07:00] of time, sitting in this hospital, hating my life, working nights, all of this. I just knew, I was like, I don't know what I'm gonna do, but something, something is gonna happen.
Um, and then as I started waking up to the corruption in the healthcare system and the fact that nobody was getting better, and this was pre covid, this was before, this was probably 2013,
Lauryn: How did you, okay, so like which, um, type of nursing were you, do, like, how did you have that realization?
Wilcox: So at the time I was, um, I went from, uh, home care to home infusion, so it was very similar, but the home infusion was just more specialized. So
Lauryn: What's home infusion? What are people getting infused
like B12?
Wilcox: no, uh, sometimes, well we would do B12 shots in home care, but our main patient population when [00:08:00] I was doing home infusion was, um, colon cancer patients who got a bolus dose of a chemotherapy in the office and then they got a 46 hour infusion at home
every two weeks. And then we also had wound care antibiotics. We had, um, a small amount of people who would get IVIG once a
month or every three weeks. So those were our three main
Lauryn: And I would imagine, I, I, I would imagine that home care people are like the least healthy because it's like they can't, like just getting in their car and going to the hospital is a whole thing. Or not
Wilcox: Well, kind of. So
Lauryn: or these, the rich people who are like, I'm not leaving.
Wilcox: no, no, no. Not the rich people.
Lauryn: Yeah, that. Yeah. Okay. So yeah, your response and face is like, yep. I'm picturing that this is,
Wilcox: They were Medicare, Medicaid, and what started happening, so I worked in the hospital for a [00:09:00] while, then I moved to home care because I didn't like being told what to do, and I was more autonomous in home care because you have to be, it's
just you at somebody's house. And I was just able to be more independent. But what I was realizing was I was like, you have to be dead to be admitted to the hospital. Like these people that are at home, they're expecting these people to maintain at home with like. Elephant legs 'cause they have such bad CHF and they can't take care of themselves. And they, so these, these people that were at their home were sick, like the people that were in the hospital five, six years before when I started doing nursing and I
was working at the hospital.
So I'm like, okay, people are getting sicker. The hospitals aren't taking them. The people that are in the hospitals are like on death's door. These people are super sick. Nobody wanted to talk. I was also, I was, um, I was a Beachbody coach back
Lauryn: Oh, I remember Bitch Body.
Wilcox: one of those, [00:10:00] um,
so I
Lauryn: That's when she was Mandy.
Wilcox: Yeah, that's, that's where that came from with my leotard. Um, so I was teaching fitness classes and I had this little Beachbody business on the side. So I was really into like nutrition and how all of that worked. And I started really paying attention to all of that. And I'm like, these people don't care. These people. I was trying to take my skillset of nutrition that I was learning outside of my career and plug it into my patients and nobody cared. They're
Lauryn: And you were just honestly probably doing that out of the like, logical. 'cause it's not like, it's not like you were trying to sell them Beachbody.
Wilcox: no afford. I
Lauryn: you were just Yeah. You were just literally going,
do you? Yes. Like, do you know how bad that is for you? And they're not, and you're not seeing, like, none of your protocols are like, and then like educate them about this or like they're not getting it from anywhere.
Wilcox: They, yeah. And the, the [00:11:00] main overwhelming majority of people were lit a lot of diabetics because diabetics get wounds on their feet and then they need all of this care. Um, they were like, why would I count my carbs when I can just take extra insulin? I'm like, oh my gosh. Like, I mean, I get it, but also I don't, so I was in, um, the, the big turning point when I was like, I need to figure out how to get out of healthcare, was when I was doing home infusion and I went to go see one of these cancer patients, and this is really terrible to say, but this is how it happened. When we had people who. Had their disconnection on fall on a weekend, we were, we had to heavily try to convince them to de disconnect to themselves,
Lauryn: What, I don't know what a disconnection
Wilcox: here, uh, it's, it's not hard, but you, if your, if your insurance company is paying [00:12:00] for a healthcare agency to come out and do this for you,
Lauryn: Oh, like disconnection is like you're taking the thingy off the IV bag or
Wilcox: they had a po so they had a pore in their chest and it has a little, a little needle and it kind of looks like if people know what those, um, continuous glucose monitor
thing look like, it's kind of one of those, but the needle's a little bit longer and then it has a little tube come out and you have to a little bit of saline in there and then pop the needle out.
Lauryn: No problem. It's totally
Wilcox: So not, it's like
terrible, but
Lauryn: No, if you're a nurse, that's totally normal. Shit.
Wilcox: So I go, I go to this lady and I, I'm like trying to tell her like, oh, do, do you wanna learn how to do this? She didn't want anything to do with it. And I was like, trying to be a little more aggressive about it. And I'm like, you really? It's just not that hard.
Here. I'll show you how it works. And she goes, no, I'm not gonna learn how to do this because I'm never getting this treatment again. And I was like, oh, why? I, like, I just, I'm like so curious. I'm like, well, why? Because most people would do this [00:13:00] treatment for two years
and this was her first treatment. So I'm like, why?
And she goes, because I think that the chemo is gonna kill me faster than the cancer's gonna kill me, and I'm gonna completely detox this cancer with my diet and go to Mexico and
Lauryn: Oh, Yeah.
Wilcox: in.
Lauryn: The Ger, what is it called? Gerst. Gertrude. Gertrude. It's not Gerst. It's not Gertrude, but anyways.
Wilcox: I don't remember what kind of treatment she was going there to do, but it involved, it involved, um, overhauling her complete
diet, fasting and something in Mexico. So I'm like, what? Tell me more about this. So this was supposed to be like a 20 minute appointment at her house. I'm there for like an hour and a half.
'cause I'm like, tell me, tell me all the things. I'm so curious what is going on? I never got this lady's information. I should have to follow up with her later. I don't know if she lived or died. I like to think that she lived and she is like living in Tulum, her best life. Um, 10 [00:14:00] years later.
That's what my, that's what my brain tells me.
Um, so then she tells me, that's when I learned about the, it was a YouTube series at the time, the Truth About Cancer.
It's the same, it's the same people that made the Truth about Vaccines
Lauryn: Yeah.
Wilcox: series. So this one was about cancer. So I go home and I lock myself in my office, and I start watching all these YouTube
Lauryn: Okay. I have a
Wilcox: of all these doctors.
Lauryn: All right. Up until this point, had you gone down any conspiracy theory, rabbit holes before? This is like, this is the first one.
Wilcox: one.
The first one,
Lauryn: And you
Wilcox: got boots, bump, even thinking about it,
Lauryn: you went deep. and hard.
Wilcox: I literally came out of my office and it wa, my husband's watching football and he is, I'm like, he opens the door. He's like, what? What is whatcha watching in here? Why are you crying? Like, what is going on?
And I was like, I'm killing people. Oh my [00:15:00] God. Like, I literally was like, I am, I am killing people with the, with these treatments. Oh my gosh. Like I can't do this anymore. Then I had to disassociate because I'm like, well, I can't quit my job today.
Lauryn: Right, right.
Wilcox: Like, what am I gonna do? So I had to, but I, that was the moment when I knew I cannot be in this system anymore.
I
know too much. I cannot,
Lauryn: And it's the golden handcuffs, right? Like, it's like, um, so it's almost like, oh gosh, who's the famous lady who was just on Tucker Carlson like six months ago talking? Oh, I keep forgetting, but like, um, but yeah, you're talking about the golden handcuffs of
Wilcox: handcuffs. And they weren't that golden. Like, you don't
make that much money as a nurse.
Lauryn: whoa. If you're making,
but the thing is, is the golden are always proportional.
If you are living on a $50,000 salary, you need that 50,000. If you are living on a $200,000 salary, you [00:16:00] want that 200,000. Like, you may not need it, but you want it. So the golden, the thing about golden handcuffs is they're always proportional
Wilcox: Yeah, that is true. So I knew I needed out and I was like, well, what we gonna do?
Like I, I was,
Lauryn: Is
Beachbody still going by the way at this point?
Wilcox: No, they, well, kind of, they're affiliate
now. That's a whole nother rabbit hole. Um, dodge that bullet, but. Even in my best year, I didn't make enough with them to, I would've left my job because I, that was like where I was going.
So I kept seeing these people on the internet. And this was back in the day when like Facebook Mar, like nobody was selling anything on Facebook. Instagram still was like,
Lauryn: Okay, so what year is this? Is this 28?
Oh, this is early.
Did Instagram even exist?
Wilcox: it did, because I have an Instagram, my Instagram account is from 2012.
Lauryn: Shut [00:17:00] the front door.
Wilcox: Yeah. And my Facebook's from 2005,
Lauryn: Okay. Well, my Facebook would be from 2005 too. 'cause I went to U of M and all. All right. All the young people are like, what are you old people talking about? Yeah. So we were one of the colleges that got it. Um, yeah, I,
Wilcox: When I switched schools, so I went to university at Buffalo and then I came home and went to nursing school and my little community college didn't have
Facebook, so I set it up. I'm like, I like this app. I need this account to,
Lauryn: my God.
Wilcox: with my,
Lauryn: Wow. I literally didn't know Instagram was that old though.
Wilcox: yeah, 20, I'm pretty sure 2012.
Lauryn: Okay.
Wilcox: it's like Valencia, everything.
Lauryn: I don't know what that means.
Wilcox: It's, uh, one of the filters was like one of
the original filters.
Lauryn: yes.
Wilcox: They're so bad.
Lauryn: Yep. Okay. Okay. So you have an Instagram account and you're like, what? [00:18:00] But nobody's selling. Yeah, you're right. Nobody's, nobody's doing online stuff.
Wilcox: no. So I'm like, okay, what am I gonna do? So I kind of fiddle, farted around for a while, and I switched jobs again twice.
Lauryn: Okay.
Wilcox: I got two more jobs. I went and did travel nursing, which we called my the lottery money.
'cause we made, like I, I was ma my assignments were such terrible crap, awful at this hospital and I didn't even care 'cause I'm like, I'm making three times as much as all of you give.
I don't even care. I'm here
for 12 hours. Hit me
like, it's fine. I know that this is temporary. Um, I started doing another MLMI was in a wine club, MLM,
which also shut down. I was really good at picking companies that shut down.
Lauryn: so at this point you were trying to sell wine, was it like Gary v's. Um,
Wilcox: Um, no, but it was kind of modeled after it. It
was called Direct Sellers. Sellers.
like a wine cellar.
Lauryn: course. Yeah, I think I actually was in [00:19:00] that for a little bit. So you were trying to sell it on Facebook.
Wilcox: Yes.
And Instagram and we were doing, and we, it was a tax write off is really what it was. We got to travel, it was fun. Whatever we made, I think I made $27,000 in like, the three years that I did it.
Lauryn: Oh, in the three years. Okay. Yeah,
Wilcox: I think I probably spent more than that.
Lauryn: the wine,
Wilcox: I still have some of the wine. I'm, I'm afraid
Lauryn: you know, I was gonna
Wilcox: but it's like nostalgic.
Lauryn: The corks like coming up and you're like, Ooh. That's how you know. It's good.
Wilcox: Yeah. I'm like, I am gonna die if I drink this wine, but I keep it on my little cabinet. Um, so I was like, you know, I, there's, there's gotta be a way, something, something is gonna come across my plate. Um, and in 2019, I real, I, I will, by 2019, I had been down and out the other side of every single rabbit hole on the face of the planet,
Lauryn: but you're still like clocking in
Wilcox: walking
Lauryn: like
Wilcox: Doing [00:20:00] all the things I was listening to. So I was doing a travel assignment that was an hour and a half away from my house. So I'd work a 12 hour shift, but drive an hour and a half there, drive an hour and a half back, and I remember listening to podcasts and YouTube videos. I was going down, like I got a Twitter account so that I could watch Kanye West lose his mind in Africa in 2018. My best friend was like, I can't watch that. You have to look at this with me. And I'm like, okay. So I go down all the rabbit holes then. I'm realizing that my daughter's sick all the time. She's three at this point. I'm sick all the time. My adrenal glands aren't working. I go see a holistic practitioner and he's like, how did you get here?
I'm like, I drove. He's like, it's 40, you live 45 minutes away. How did you drive here? And I was like, I don't know. I got in my car and I drove on the highway. I like, I just got here. He goes, your adrenal glands do not work. Like they are kaput. They're not working anymore. This [00:21:00] was in 2019. So I was like, okay, well what do I do? So he tells me, oh, I also had parasites in my heart and in my adrenal glands. And it turned out that that was the beginning of a candida infection that riddled me for like three years until I finally got rid of it. And he tells me that we gotta switch out all of our products in our home and everything that we're using is toxic.
And I'm like, I don't under. I don't use crap from the hospital, I just buy stuff at the grocery store. I'm confu like, what is toxic? He's like, everything. So then I start going down that rabbit hole and I'm like, oh my gosh, it all is po. It's poisoning all of us. So I found this store and I started shopping there and um, I got switched out.
All of our cleaning products, my daughter's respiratory issues got better within 30 days of me getting rid
Lauryn: Just getting rid of the cleaning
Wilcox: Yankee Candles, 4 0 9 Fabri,
those smelly pellet things that you put in your laundry. I was the queen of those.
Lauryn: Oh God.
Wilcox: like the Downey [00:22:00] Unstoppables or whatever they're called. So I always had those, got rid of everything.
She starts feeling better. I'm like, oh, okay, we're onto something here. Then I start looking at vaccines because she's getting ready to go. I had not looked at that yet, even
Lauryn: how,
how,
Wilcox: cognitive dissonance.
Lauryn: I suppose, I mean, the fact that you were, yeah. You couldn't have uncovered all of the stuff, but like, I would just think like the cancer, what comes next?
Wilcox: It didn't compute for me.
So, and even,
Lauryn: But again, like cognitive, like yeah. Like how you're stuck in this job. Like, so how much do you really want to.
Wilcox: Yes. So, and even so, my best friend and I do have an episode about this. I interviewed my best friend on my podcast, about her son. I watched her son get injured by his MMR before kindergarten, like started flapping his [00:23:00] arms, toe tip walking, um, pooping his pants co. Like gut issues, skin issues, all of this stuff. And I still didn't connect to the dots. Like I, I still didn't, it wasn't until I was, we were talking to somebody on our team. We do working zooms every day. And this girl was like, her son didn't talk and she was looking at taking him to his next doctor's appointment to get his routine visits. He was like one, I think, or maybe 15 months old. And I had just taken Reagan to for something, for preschool, and I got her shot record. So we're looking, we're like talking to her. I'm like, you should probably do some research about this before you just blindly go take your kid in. I at least was advocating for like, look at something first. So I start looking at her vaccine record and then I'm like, wait a second, I need to go to my camera roll from those years. So I have her shot record and [00:24:00] my phone, and I'm comparing the two of them together and a light bulb went off and I was like, oh my gosh. Reagan has been sick so long because of her vaccines, and she got measles from her MMR, and she got RSV from the flu shot. And I like could watch, I could put the pieces together by looking at everything and that's when I was like, oh, okay, the, I really need out of this system.
And thankfully I had started this business and I was on my way, but this just sped things up. I was like, I need, like, this isn't like a Sunday, whenever it happens type of
thing, I'll
Lauryn: What was the business you had started?
Wilcox: So I do, um, education and marketing for an online wellness store.
Um, it's called Melaleuca and
um, we've been around since before I was born.
Um, they have a really lucrative customer referral program and it was my way out.
Um. I as soon when I bought those products, and they [00:25:00] immediately changed my daughter's life within 30 days. Her breathing, um, we were doing nebulizers all the time. She was getting a fever every other week. I was like, I need to tell everybody about this store because thi this stuff works and it's less expensive than the grocery store. Um, so I just doubled down and I went in on that and I was able, I le this is also another like god moment. I left nursing altogether completely and started doing this full time in December of 2019.
Lauryn: Okay.
Right, so you're like, wow, I got out at a real good time.
Wilcox: I really dodged a bullet.
Lauryn: okay. So you really, as you. So like, so many docs, like you just have a very different story because like, I feel like so many docs and nurses and et cetera are like, I don't like the, um, like that I just have to be there all [00:26:00] day. Or the, and so they're like seeing like, I wanna do something online as like, to stimulate creativity or this or that.
Like you had like a 10 year falling out with like, I must get away from this system. How did you, like, why didn't you decide to go get a bank job or like work at a health food store? Like, what was the thing of like, I'm gonna do this online.
Wilcox: I think it was because I needed the ability to own my own time,
and I knew that if I just went to a different job. I might be happier, but I still would be clocking in and clocking out. And that's not what I wanted to do. I wanted to be able to own my own time. It was always my dream. I grew up, I don't know if you remember her, do you remember Samantha Brown
from the Travel Channel in the nineties?
Lauryn: No. I don't know if we had, I don't know if we had the travel channel.
Wilcox: I, we had cable for a [00:27:00] brief two years of my life.
Um,
Lauryn: You like an I max? I would've been watching the Disney Channel.
Wilcox: um, so I remember this lady and she did, she did travel blogging. But back when you had to be like on a TV show,
Lauryn: Right. Like Anthony Bourdain travel blogging.
Wilcox: Yes. So I'm like, that looks like the coolest job ever. And that's what I wanna do. I wanna just be able to travel anywhere and like record my adventures and just have a good time. That was always my dream job. And I was like, I'm never gonna be able to be the modern day Samantha Brown. If I have to ask for time off.
Lauryn: Oh my God, that was part of the like dream gonna
Wilcox: I wanna travel
Lauryn: Oh my gosh. Okay.
Wilcox: want, and I really wanted to travel, so I knew. And then internet marketing just like started coming together.
Lauryn: Yeah.
Wilcox: I was like, well, this is perfect. And I built, built six figure business on Facebook. Now, I didn't even have, I mean, I [00:28:00] had an Instagram account, but I didn't use it.
Lauryn: Was it all through like the Melaleuca thing?
Wilcox: Yeah, so I used my education through that store of products, ingredients, toxins, all like all of that stuff that fueled my education at that time. So I would go, look, I'm like, why is Tide bad?
What's the problem with it? I'm like, this uses enzymes, this uses chemicals. And then I would just share that information
on Facebook, add friends, and then talk to the people.
Would be like, what? What are
you using?
Lauryn: So this was your personal Facebook page, and then you were selling like in the dms, or did you have like a business page? Like, Okay. Nope. So this was just Amanda Wilcox Facebook page going
Wilcox: 1200 friends.
Lauryn: things like that. Um, okay. Can we just, since you have had a couple experiences [00:29:00] with, okay.
Is calling it an MLM like a dirty word?
Wilcox: Well, it isn't but it's not an MLM.
Lauryn: So here's, here's like my question that I would love you to like,
without going like too down the like selling Melaleuca at all. Like more just like for, I feel like what happened from an outsider is that we saw, um, oh God, what were the jewelry companies? Oh, do you?
Wilcox: Like Stella and Dot
Lauryn: Yeah. And
Wilcox: there was another one. There was another one. I have a bunch of necklaces from
Lauryn: yes, they were expensive too, but if you bought two, you got the third free.
Wilcox: Yes. That's why I have three.
Lauryn: Yeah. Um, so like, okay, so we saw, and by like we, I'm talking like the millennials here. We saw our, like moms, there was Pampered Chef, there was sensei, there was whatever that jewelry company was. There was beach body. There was like, so there were all these things.
[00:30:00] And people were making really good money on it. And then we label, then we said like, that's an MLM, MLMs are gross and bad. And now I see people who like, from an outsider, I'm going like, those offered a lot of financial freedom to like women, men, et cetera, to like have their day job where they're like, I like my day job and I'm making 80, 90,000, but like I wanna side hustle and like, and so now it's like if you, knowing what you know and it is 2025, can you please like break down?
Do bad m LMS still exist? What is bad about them? And then like, if you are considering, because I think that there are a lot of docs who could like do really well. Like, yeah, keep your day job. If you love it, that's great. And like, here's [00:31:00] some side hustle money where you could make 20, 40, 60, a hundred thousand dollars a year.
But it, it just is like, no, that's an MLM that's bad. So like what would be your advice of like how to decipher? Like no, you can use your expertise and help people if the program is set up this way. And what did we get so mad about? That's a really big question, but
Wilcox: It is, but I have a lot of experience in it, and I've been in the like network marketing space
Lauryn: is that what we call it now? Network marketing,
Wilcox: I mean, it really, you have a network and you market to them,
Lauryn: but, okay. So like MLM is multi-level marketing and we disliked it because. You like there was so much aggression to get people to sign up under you and then like the people above, like
Wilcox: Here's my, here's my thing with, with MLM. So what I do now, and this is, anybody can call it an MLM if they want to, I don't care, but the FTC does not recognize Melaleuca as an MLM, and it's [00:32:00] because do not recruit anybody. So there's no recruitment
Lauryn: okay, so the recruitment of like underlings is what gave MLMA bad name.
Wilcox: and it's the, it's
Lauryn: But why isn't, okay.
Wilcox: well here, and here's why. It's
Lauryn: I'm like in defense of MLM, I'm just into, I think we threw the baby out with the bath water.
Wilcox: We did. We did. And so now we have to, like, I educate people on this all the time. Um, but one of the big things, and this is why, this is why all these MLMs are going to affiliate marketing,
is because they don't have real customers that are buying their products. They have distributors who are only buying their products so that they can sell those products.
And the FTC is like, that's not a real bus. Like
Lauryn: am confused. You have to,
Wilcox: you're only buying something so that you can sell it.
Lauryn: I'm confused.
Wilcox: so let's say there's, let's say there's a, [00:33:00] um, I, I don't wanna pick on any certain company, so I'm gonna pick a random, let's say there's a book, a book, MLM,
and you're like, okay, I don't want this book, but I have to buy this book if I wanna make money. So I'm gonna buy this book that I don't care about. I don't care about this book, I don't care about any of the other books that I have. I'm gonna have this whole garage full of books that I can sell to make money and I'm gonna sign up other people. I think a car salesman is an even better example. Say, so you've got a car, dealership, and you need to have people who are gonna sell the cars. So you hire all the people that are gonna sell the cars, but then there's nobody buying cars. They have no customers. Like their customer base is only people. That's why when you look at these income statistics, these people, they're like, they make an average of $12 a year. And it's like, yeah, because there's 4 million people that are. [00:34:00] 12 of them are actually business building, but the other, you know, 3 million of them have just bought into this to get a discount. That was the thing with Beachbody,
Lauryn: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. So
it's like,
Wilcox: away your commission so that they can get a discount,
Lauryn: Yes.
Wilcox: is really how that works.
So the FT C is really coming down hard on all of these companies that are doing this and that's why they are moving to affiliate
Lauryn: A.
Wilcox: because now they don't have teams. You, there is no recruiting, it's affiliate marketing. Like you have an Amazon affiliate link for this product. It's the same thing. You're not getting paid on this team of people that really actually did want to build a business and brought people into your organization. They're taking that completely away. All of these ones that are moving to affiliate marketing. And I think, I don't hate it 'cause I'm like, well you. You were lying.
That's not, you didn't really have all of [00:35:00] these people that were buying this product. They were distributors. And so that is, I think, the big thing. And I think because our generation went so heavy, we went really hard in the paint with recruiting people.
And so now everybody thinks that anything that you sign up for, you have to also sell it. And with what I do, that's not the case. One person, somebody just asked me yesterday, I had a copy date, he was like, how many people, um, in your organization actually like refer? Um, this month I have over 300 customers.
11 of them are actively building a business. 11. That's it. And some of them are super casual and some of them are significant business builders in building six figure businesses. But it's the distinction of having, having real customers and there are some decent, MLMs out there. but when I look at the comp plan structures, they're not as good as what I have.
Lauryn: Just an affiliate situation.
Wilcox: [00:36:00] so it's, I'm like, if you brought, I'm, I always do the math. I'm like a big numbers person. I'm like, if you brought that over here, it would be a lot
more dollars for you.
Lauryn: Okay, so I have another question.
So. how, because on Instagram, so you're uncensored nurse,
you don't, you don't come across as like salesy at all. So like, are you monetizing uncensored nurse in a different way
Wilcox: I'm
Lauryn: or do you have plans.
Wilcox: I do have some plans to. Part, part of what happened with my Instagram account, I'll just be completely transparent, and I've made a couple quotes about this, is I was, I had like this little Instagram account, I had like 6,000 followers and then I was like, I'm gonna really pay attention to Instagram and I'm gonna build it. And then I worked so hard, I did all this stuff and in like three months I was like, woo, I gotta 10,000. Yay. This is so great. And [00:37:00] then I made a reel last year in January that went viral and I went from 10,000 to 200,000
in literally like six weeks.
Lauryn: shit. What was the real about?
Wilcox: It was so dumb.
Lauryn: They always are. They always
are.
Wilcox: I will plug Shannon McKinstry.
She, I love her.
and she, I, I'm not a student of hers, but I am a student of her Instagram
Lauryn: Yes, yes, yes.
Wilcox: So I saw this thing, she's like, use this hook and this sound and make a reel. And a lot of my clients had success with this, so I'm like, I am a student. So I'm like, yes ma'am. So I make this reel
Lauryn: many millions of views did this get?
Wilcox: six
Lauryn: 6 million and that took you from 10,000.
Wilcox: 200.
Lauryn: had, was your bio set up like officially, like were [00:38:00] you like, I help, blah, blah, blah, navigate, blah, blah, blah. You were just like, I'm Amanda,
Wilcox: like,
Lauryn: I wonder how you got so many people to actually click follow then.
Because like most like just viewing a reel to get a follower, like they have to go over, they look at your page and go, yes, I want more of this.
Wilcox: I had been, so I had been trying to grow my Instagram page, so I, it probably said I'd have to dig back. I was taking screenshots at the time of like what everything looked like, but I think that my bio was just very simply like, I'm a nurse and I am like digging into hormone stuff and wellness, whatever.
Like, it wasn't super specific
at the time, but the, the reel said I pin, I pinned it. 'cause I don't know if that's what they say to do. I get, um, [00:39:00] it says, so it was me. People who make sourdough bread could tell what I was doing. I had made a dope piece of sourdough bread and I was pulling out of the oven and it like actually worked.
And I was like, Woohoo. I was like all excited. So it says point of view, you are a nurse who's tired of western medicine and wants to chat about holistic healing and hormones, and you find my account
Lauryn: That's, and that motherfucker
went from 10,000 to 200,000. Okay. So let's talk about engagement afterwards, because,
Wilcox: scary.
Lauryn: okay. Oh God, yeah,
Wilcox: So, so then I'm like, okay, I got all these eyeballs. Then I got self-conscious and I'm like, now I have to like perform
for these people and and everybody wants to talk about hormones and holistic health and like
Lauryn: So
you were, yeah. So one of the things I like tell my students is like, all of [00:40:00] your content should pass the, oh shit, I went viral, um, test, which is like, okay. If this goes viral. Now granted you that was perfect. Like, you're like, okay. But yeah, it fit enough. But like, it's why there are so many funny things that I was like, oh God.
'cause like I love, I love fantasy fiction and like there are so many funny and like my brain, like I love the creativity of reels. Like I love it. And so like, there are so many like funny things that I think about like, oh, that would be a hilarious reel, and I love funny things. And, and I'm like, no, no, because like, I don't want to go to 200,000 on people who are like, now I have to post about books, I guess.
Which like wouldn't be the worst case scenario. But then, but then it's like, now you're expected to monetize.
Wilcox: Yes. So I'm like, so I, I dabbled and I like kept posting reels and I was like, okay, these things are working. And I made, I actually [00:41:00] have an entire like 12 page PDF of what exactly I did to get to 200,000 followers and like, maybe I'm gonna sell it someday. I don't know. I, I use it for my team, um, is, I'm like, if you partner with me, I'll give you this for free,
Lauryn: Right.
Wilcox: kind of how I'm using it now.
But I'm, I'm, I'm, now that I've got my footing on Instagram and I'm like, okay, these pe like I've had this following for a
Lauryn: What do I do with them?
Wilcox: So I'm like, okay now. And like, my main thing is I love mentoring people in business. So my, my main always focus is I'm always looking for people that wanna partner with me with Melaleuca and join hands with the break free project, um, and what we're doing there. But I'm also like, okay. You can monetize people that don't wanna shop with me, I
can monetize people who want to, or they're in a different company and maybe they wanna learn how to build Instagram. And like I have all of these skill sets, so I'm, this is my brain all the [00:42:00] time,
and I'm like, I need to, like, so I'm slowly figuring it out.
I have an email list
now. I'm proud of myself for pulling the trigger on
Lauryn: Yay. Yep.
Wilcox: Um, and what I always do is I over promise and that get, get burned out and under deliver. So what I've been trying really hard to do is like, keep my plans in
my own brain and like do the opposite
Lauryn: Right,
Wilcox: under promise and over deliver
instead of being like I
Lauryn: So, I mean, it sounds like you do love the idea of helping nurses
Wilcox: mm-hmm.
Lauryn: get out of nursing.
Wilcox: That is my, that's my favorite thing to do. And what comes with that though? It's, it's a slow burn because nurses are not super business-minded usually. Um, I feel like that's the same vein that you're in where you're like, I work with clinicians who don't like,
Lauryn: weren't taught any business. Yeah.
Wilcox: not at all. Um, so it's a [00:43:00] switch, but I can tell when somebody has it factor.
Like I have this new girl I'm working with, um, she is kind of a relatively new nurse, and she's younger and she's getting married and she's like, this sounds awesome. I, I'm totally in. And she's referred like eight customers in the week. Um, and she's just like, she gets it. And so I'm always kind of looking for those kinds of people, but I'm, I'm also, I know that it's multifaceted and I don't wanna be in Instagram.
It's, we're so niched down. Like everybody tells you like pick be super specific
about your niche. And I'm like, I get bored.
Lauryn: know, but helping nurses, so like helping nurses get out of nursing is just like, oof. That's that niche shells itself. It is super specific, but it's also so broad 'cause there's so many nurses. Um, and I do thi I do love the idea of you like. You can talk, like I would all like, I like that [00:44:00] you don't talk about the Melaleuca on your page, but you talk about like, well, you could become an online educator for a health company because you have this degree.
And then if people are like, well, I don't even know, like, woo, that sounds great, but who, then you could be like, well this is what I do for, I've also seen other people this, like, if you do this company specifically, I can help you there. But it's almost like they have to be like two or three levels of working with you before and then it just doesn't feel, you know, like, and also you have such a large following that like, yeah,
Wilcox: wanna work with everyone.
Lauryn: no, no, no,
Wilcox: so it, it's like a weeding out
Lauryn: God. and there's just so many options. Ugh. Like, so like, 'cause you said you kind of started the podcast, but then you're like, damn, this is a lot of work. And then like you're still figuring out the Yeah, this is like the viral factor came and showed up and it's like, now you.
Wilcox: And then there's the piece, and this sounds when my, my team hates when I talk about [00:45:00] this because they're like, must be nice. And I'm like, you, but you don't understand. So I did not post about my Melaleuca business and what I have over there on Instagram purposefully,
because I was like, I don't have the time to sit and message all these people.
Lauryn: Yeah. Do you get haters on this? Oh, wait. Well, yeah, because you're really vocal about like vaccines and
Wilcox: And Jesus and politics
and Trump and everything.
Lauryn: get haters? Oh, that came outta my mouth before I
realized like
Wilcox: I do. I'm very heavy on the block button
because I hate you have to be. So if I ever block anybody and they like didn't mean any harm, I'm sorry, but
I
Lauryn: sorry,
but it's a boundaries thing. You just have to, for your mental health. Oh my God. Speaking of your mental health, okay, so I was watching Love Is Blind. Do you watch? Love Is Blind.
Wilcox: I.
Lauryn: Okay, good. I want, um, for those that are in [00:46:00] love is blind, I'm, this really isn't too much of a spoiler. So in between, so like, do you know the premise?
This really isn't important for you. Um, okay. Anyways, I'm watching a conversation happen between two people, um, that just committed to each other and they weren't supposed to know what they looked like before the commitment. And so there's this like, girl, she's in her twenties, I'm sure, and maybe she's like 30, but she's like having this super serious sit down with him because she just accepted his engagement.
But she's pretty sure that he started following her before the show and he knew what she looked like and she's pretty, and so like, she's like, you know, you knew what I looked like. And she, and she says, my husband and I watching this 'cause I make him watch and she's like, I have the follow unfollow app.
I can look if you are lying. 'cause she's like, I'm pretty sure you followed me and then you might have unfollowed me so you aren't following me currently. And she's like, I have this app. So I'm like, I'm, I'm like, um, I'm obsessed with Instagram. What is this follow and follow app? [00:47:00] So I downloaded it and. J Spoiler alert.
I've already, like literally last night I downloaded this and today, this morning I uninstalled it because I was like, this is not good for your mental health. Like this is absolutely where social media's like, like no, it tells you everybody that you follow that doesn't follow you back
Wilcox: That's like my whole page.
Lauryn: I know, but like, so I started going through it and like when you see people that don't follow you, that you're like, wait, they used to, what?
When did they stop? Like why did they
w That's weird. I mu they must not like my Co. And so your brains, I think you're on Enneagram eight though, so I could see you not giving a shit about
this.
Wilcox: don't,
Lauryn: Oh yeah. Okay. For those that are in the
Wilcox: But for those that do, I can see why it's a problem. And it's the same concept as when you go to tell your [00:48:00] friend on Facebook that happy birthday, and you click on their page and it says, add friend. And you're like, what?
Lauryn: Yeah.
Did you unfriend me?
Wilcox: But then I think to myself, I am a lot. I'm loud, I'm boisterous.
I don't care what anybody says. I like, I'm saying what I have to say, and these are my thoughts and my opinions. And I like the SBI has been to my house. I don't care
Lauryn: sorry. I'm sorry.
Wilcox: likes me and doesn't. I like to drop that information sometimes and then I'm like, I like to watch your face.
Lauryn: Uh, spill the tea. What?
Wilcox: quick
Lauryn: What did you do
Wilcox: I was in, I was in Washington DC on January 6th,
so they hunted me down and came to my house.
Lauryn: You were there on January 6th.
Tell me what,
Wilcox: because so the whole reason I went,
Lauryn: okay. Is it a conspiracy [00:49:00] that, like was it actually peaceful? Like was there Okay, because like I don't, I haven't like gone enough down this, that like, that. I know what the hell I'm talking about. I've just seen like little clips of like, wait a minute. These are them being, the doors being opened for them to come inside and
Wilcox: So the reason I went was because, okay,
Lauryn: you.
Wilcox: COVID Covid, the whole Covid thing made me, I was an angry elf for, and I'm normally a very joyful person and it made me angry. I was, because I wouldn't get the vaccine, I wouldn't wear a mask. I moved out of New York in the middle of co, like May of 2020. I was like, I'm out. Screw this state. I moved. I was always getting ready to have a fight. Like I was literally on edge
all the time. So I'm like,
Lauryn: Do you know what the Enneagram is?
Wilcox: I don't
Lauryn: Okay. So after this, go look up the Enneagram eight and I think you're gonna,[00:50:00]
Wilcox: I don't give a shit one.
Lauryn: mm-hmm. Yeah, you are gonna go, oh my God.
This is me.
It's me.
Wilcox: So, so I had such distrust in the media from Covid because I followed Nicole EK of American Frontline Nurses, and I watched her like get dismantled and ba like all of this stuff. It, um, Erin, nurse Erin, she did stuff in New York and Florida and I was like, I have to be there because if I'm not there, I can't see it with my own eyeballs.
And I just, I, this goes back to the, I don't want nobody telling me what to do and I don't wanna ask to ask, ask for time off. And I wanted to, I literally said to my husband, I was like, I, I'm gonna go to DC and he's like,
Lauryn: You went by yourself.
Wilcox: bring a.
Lauryn: Oh my God.
Wilcox: I'm like, okay. So I didn't bring a gun, but I did bring Mace. Um, so I drove up there by myself. I have a friend that lives in Texas. Her hu [00:51:00] she drove to DC from Texas with a random girl that went to her Zumba class that was like, sure, I'll come with you. And then my best friend of 20 years, she was living in Georgia at the time. She went with our other friend from New York and we stayed with a friend who lived in dc Like we walked to the capitol from her house. So we all descend upon DC but we all got there by ourselves and I wasn't really sure what to expect because I was like getting in there kind of at night, the, on the night of the fifth.
And I'm like, I don't know what to expect, like what's gonna be going on? Like whatever. But I needed to get to her house, so I had to like drive through DC. And it was like nothing. It was like nobody was around. So I'm like, okay. So I parked my car at her house and then we go out and it was like, I've been to a bunch of Trump rallies.
And it was like that, like there was just all these people in American flag garb and red, white and blue and singing and all sorts of stuff, [00:52:00] stuff. And I felt like it reminded me of, um, Forrest Gump when he spoke
at, in Forrest Gump, except we were facing the other way. So there was like, I think they said there was 2 million people there. Cell phones didn't work
because there was so many, I don't know if they shut the towers off or
Lauryn: sounds like my nightmare. But yeah, I don't like people, but yeah. Okay.
Wilcox: so we, we went and we're like, okay, rendezvous point over here if we get lost from each other. 'cause we can't use our phones. They're, they don't work. we go through, listen to everybody speak. My friend made us empanadas. We're eating empanadas outta my backpack, like handing 'em out to people, making friends, like everything's so great. And then we all walk back to the capitol and everything's peaceful mostly, and not like, mostly peaceful, but there's fire in the background, not that kind of, mostly peaceful. Um, but I hear as we're walking up, so we're on the backside of the capitol building, there's like [00:53:00] scaffolding and somebody said, don't go over there unless you brought a gas mask because they are tear bombing people over on this side. So we're like, okay. So we come around on this side and there we had walked past the capitol in the morning and there was all of the, um, it was like concert road, like the metal
gate or whatever things. And there was a couple of police cars in there and like a couple of police officers walking around in the morning, They were gone.
The police officers were just like standing around. People were sitting on the steps of the capitol. Like I didn't go, I
Lauryn: They, they removed the metal thingies.
Wilcox: metal things were gone and I had videos of it all and then they put in a curfew. So they were like, everybody needs to be home. Like get off the streets by six o'clock or whatever it was.
We left at like 3 30, 4 o'clock, went and ate some food and went back to my friend's house. But I remember seeing as we're walking by, there's a broken [00:54:00] window in the capitol and it was the the one, the one window that got broken and I see a guy in red, white, and blue, and then a guy dressed in all black, arguing with each other verbally. So here's I'm, because I wanted to be a journalist. I climb up, I'm like this little pole and I'm videotaping. I'm like, I don't wanna get this on video. And I was just recording everything. I wanted to have access to it. they're arguing with each other and the guy in the red, white and blue was like, why did you throw that brick into that window?
We are peaceful. We don't do stuff like that. What the hell is your problem? It looked like they were gonna get into a physical altercation. So I left because I was like, I don't wanna be part of this. But I heard from another person as we were walking, 'cause they watched me record that and they go, I watched that guy get off of a bus with 50 people that were dressed head to toe in black. So my theory is that Antifa was [00:55:00] buffed it bust in and those were the people that were causing problems.
And then when the FBI came to my house, they were looking for,
Lauryn: If they go to all 2 million people.
Wilcox: I guess, so they didn't come to my house until September.
Lauryn: Yeah. I mean, it takes a minute. Yeah.
Wilcox: Took a while. My husband was
Lauryn: So what were they looking for? Did you know they were coming
Wilcox: um, they had called me for like a month.
Lauryn: and you didn't call them back?
Wilcox: No. And I, and I hid on my couch and pretended I was sleeping and they showed
up and my husband door, I was like, shoot, they're here. So they,
Lauryn: oh my
Wilcox: they wanted to know if I knew anything about bombs that were placed in the capitol. And I was like, no.
And they went to my best friend's house and they, and she's even more uncensored than me and she has, law, a law background. So she's a, don't mess with
her. She knows her [00:56:00] facts, she knows her rights. She is very smart. So they went to her looking for evidence of who killed Ashley Babbitt and 'cause that was the one person that got killed. And she said to them. Do you have a TikTok account? Because it's on there. You can see. You can see
it
like you can.
So she asked the FBI if they have a TikTok account, and I tried to show them my videos of everything that I had and they didn't wanna see it.
Lauryn: They didn't wanna see it.
Wilcox: They were like, no, we don't need that. Thank you.
And I'm like, okay,
Lauryn: So
Wilcox: how our tax dollars are being spent.
Lauryn: I don't know how you still have an account and you haven't been de
Wilcox: It's the weirdest thing through everything. I really think that God is like, you have, your voice needs to be heard because through CODI never got thrown in jail in Facebook. I [00:57:00] only grew
during Covid. My Facebook account grew. I had a, a post go viral.
Um,
Lauryn: Posts can go viral on Facebook.
Wilcox: yeah, they can.
Lauryn: See, you're an older millennial than I am. You're not literally, but like I, I don't do Facebook anymore. I'm like,
Wilcox: I do, I built my whole business on
Lauryn: I suppose you're like, oh, I do Facebook because it pays my bills.
Wilcox: I like Facebook because it, you can build for me anyway. You, I feel like you can build deeper relationships on Facebook because the content is different and it's, you can be way more intentional.
You can't, like, the algorithm doesn't work the same on Instagram. It's, it's a little more transactional. Um, but I, during covid, I was, I was handing out religious exemptions.
I was talking to everybody that could. I was get like, I'm like, here's some information. Here's information. Here's where you can get ivermectin. Here's all of this
stuff. I was handing out all this stuff. I grew, one of my posts went viral. I grew to 20,000 followers. [00:58:00] Then two years later. That post like made a round.
Again, I don't even know. I'm like, where are all these people coming from? And then I look and people are like sending me this post that I had made. I'm like, that's from 2021.
And it like went viral again. And then I grew, now I've got 54,000 followers on Facebook and 190 or something on Instagram. And every time I, I got in trouble once, one time I put up a meme of Joe Biden in his underwear,
Lauryn: He didn't like
Wilcox: or not Joe Biden, under Biden
that said my dad.
My dad said that everybody has to get their covid vaccines or something. And I couldn't go live for like a month
Lauryn: Oh,
you, you were in Facebook jail. Yep.
Wilcox: I'm like, I don't go live anyway, so it's fine. Um, but I, I've, I have only grown my accounts with how much, so I'm like, that's, that's also why I was like, I [00:59:00] guess I'm the uncensored nurse because apparently I could talk about whatever I want
Lauryn: Apparently.
Wilcox: and nobody cares.
Lauryn: So, so final question.
Where should, if people want more of you, like, is it kind of like, if you want more Melaleuca, go to Facebook. If you want more Trump and vaccines, go to Instagram. Like, where should people find more of you? Do you have a landing page yet?
Wilcox: I do. Yep. The uncensored nurse.com.
So you can go there and from there I have a menu on my website, so I've got vaccine information. Um, on there and I've got more that I have to add into there, but I just haven't had the time to sit down and do it yet. Um, but there's all sorts of vaccine information.
And then, um, if you wanted to know more about the store, there's a little form you can fill out there. And Facebook and Instagram, it's kind of, I'm the same person on both, but it's like me on different days, if that makes sense. Like I'm very, I don't know how to describe it. I guess it's [01:00:00] whichever platform people prefer to be on.
You can find me on both. And I have a lot of people that follow me on both. Um, 'cause it's, it's just a little different. I'm, I'm a little bit more, um, education.
Uh, I'm a little, a little
bit more professional on No, on Instagram than I'm
on Facebook. Um, but I kind of just, I play around with what works.
So like, I had a post, um. On Instagram that I did as a carousel, and I was like, well, that did really well on Instagram, so I'm gonna take those words and I'll just make it a post on Facebook. And then that did well over there. So it's just
the
same content kind of, it's just different, it's just different
Lauryn: just just yeah. Whichever one you're on
Wilcox: So,
both I'm, I'm on both.
I'm
the Uncensored nurse everywhere.
Lauryn: well I love your handle and I love like, um, hear your story. The January 6th thing, that was like an extra bonus thing at the end where I'm like, hell yeah. I [01:01:00] wanna hear this story. So, Amanda, thank you so much for your time.
Good luck with like, I love your mission. Um, and like, it's just great. We need, we need a hundred thousand more of you.
Wilcox: Thank you. I appreciate it.
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