One of the biggest challenges of doing a podcast
Speaker:is figuring out how to make money from your podcast.
Speaker:It's not easy, but it is very doable,
Speaker:provided you take the right strategy. And right
Speaker:now I'm going to take you through exactly what that strategy
Speaker:is.
Speaker:When most people think about monetizing a podcast, what they're
Speaker:probably thinking about is advertising and sponsorship,
Speaker:those pre roll ads that you hear on some of the big
Speaker:podcasts in the world. But there's a reason why
Speaker:those podcasts are monetizing in that way.
Speaker:It's because they come with baked in audience. These
Speaker:advertisers know that these big podcasts will have
Speaker:huge audiences based on their brand equity. Well, what if
Speaker:you're a bit lesser known? Maybe you're somebody
Speaker:that's an influencer in a very niche space, or perhaps you're a
Speaker:brand that isn't a household name. What can you do to
Speaker:monetize a podcast then? Well, there are several ways that you can do
Speaker:that. I advocate personally
Speaker:for having the podcast being the marketing
Speaker:platform rather than the product. You are
Speaker:the product. You the person that brings all the genius and
Speaker:insight to your people, to your tribe, as
Speaker:the Gary Vaynerchuk crew would say. But
Speaker:before we get more deeply into that, let's talk about all the
Speaker:options that are available to you when it comes to monetizing a podcast.
Speaker:We've already mentioned sponsorship and ads. Now, if you're getting
Speaker:around about 5000 downloads
Speaker:per episode within the first 30 days of release, then
Speaker:you're eligible to start looking at that as a revenue generating
Speaker:model. You're not going to make a fortune from it because the
Speaker:CPM rates, as in cost per melee
Speaker:rates, are very low. You're looking at around about
Speaker:$25 per every 1000 listeners you
Speaker:have. If you've only got 5000 downloads per
Speaker:episode, that's not going to be a lot of money for you unless you've
Speaker:got loads of ads in your podcast episodes. And if you're only
Speaker:getting 5000 downloads per episode,
Speaker:you might need to have that conversation with yourself about
Speaker:striking the balance. Are you going to upset your
Speaker:listeners? The few listeners that you've got?
Speaker:Comparatively, given you've got 5000
Speaker:downloaders, are you going to upset them? If
Speaker:you load their content with ads? There's a real balance to be
Speaker:struck here, and the ends are weighted between
Speaker:continuing getting trajectory for your podcast reach in
Speaker:terms of new listeners and getting money from those that you
Speaker:have. I'd almost always suggest not having
Speaker:a pre roll ad on a podcast unless it's absolutely huge. And I'm
Speaker:talking millions of listeners. Even then, I
Speaker:would get you to seriously consider whether or not a pre roll ad is a
Speaker:great idea. A mid roll ad can be really
Speaker:useful, but here's where I think the
Speaker:nuances. If you use a mid roll ad to advertise a third
Speaker:party, as in a sponsor or advertiser that wants
Speaker:to use your podcast as a platform for their marketing
Speaker:messaging, then you might be
Speaker:possibly hurting yourself because the listeners aren't invested
Speaker:in your advertisers, they're invested in you. So for
Speaker:me, I would say if it's only about revenue generation
Speaker:and you're looking to grow your revenue base with
Speaker:income from the podcast, consider using
Speaker:that mid role slot to advertise your own services. And
Speaker:if you don't actually have a service offering or any kind of offering
Speaker:for someone to pay for, then maybe think about getting that
Speaker:started. Coaching can be a great product
Speaker:for certain industries and certain service providers.
Speaker:Otherwise you could do things like retreats. You could do
Speaker:one to one sessions, you could even do group
Speaker:webinars and charge tickets for those
Speaker:there's affiliate marketing I'm not personally a massive
Speaker:fan of affiliate marketing because for me I feel it lends
Speaker:itself to people advertising for the sake of getting the
Speaker:revenue rather than just sharing a good product
Speaker:and endorsing that because they truly believe in it. Any article
Speaker:you see on this website or on any of my podcast episodes, any
Speaker:mention of any brands or products, it's because I
Speaker:use them personally and can recommend them based on that
Speaker:use. You'll never catch me running an affiliate campaign for
Speaker:any product I haven't either used myself extensively
Speaker:or still use. Another
Speaker:option for revenue generation is merchandising. That could be
Speaker:anything from t shirts, mugs,
Speaker:pens, you name it, any sort of stationery. A lot of people
Speaker:probably think about setting up an Etsy store or any other kind of e commerce
Speaker:website and have listeners buying those products.
Speaker:And that's the revenue generation model. But I'd like you to think about
Speaker:this another way. Perhaps you could use the
Speaker:merchandising as a gift in return
Speaker:for the podcast listener helping you to grow your
Speaker:show, as in recommendations, sharing of
Speaker:episodes, reviews, proving that they followed your show in Apple
Speaker:podcasts or Spotify, and maybe even getting their friends to do the
Speaker:same. That way what you're actually doing is instead of
Speaker:selling the merchandise, you're rewarding listeners
Speaker:with the merchandise and you're ultimately going to get
Speaker:more revenue benefit in the longer term anyway because you're going to be
Speaker:able to get free advertising for your podcast. What better
Speaker:way to build a business than have your listeners
Speaker:as your biggest advocates in business? They call this the
Speaker:ladder of loyalty, and if you can get someone at the top of that
Speaker:ladder, you're on to a winner.
Speaker:Crowdfunding and listener support. Yeah, we've all heard of those
Speaker:websites that charge a membership in return for exclusive
Speaker:content. Patreon is one of those. You've got superfans and all these
Speaker:other websites as well. Buy me a coffee. That is another
Speaker:useful tool for generating revenue from your podcast
Speaker:content. The problem with this is a lot of people come into this thinking it's
Speaker:going to be really easy money. But if you
Speaker:think about it, it's actually a lot harder than offering your
Speaker:own service as an offering and using the
Speaker:podcast as a marketing platform. For that, we're back into the
Speaker:domain of the podcast being the product.
Speaker:There's no one side fits all to this. What one person might
Speaker:see value in, in terms of your content, someone else might think, well, why am
Speaker:I going to pay for that? So if you're looking at early releases of
Speaker:episodes, one set of listeners might think that's a brilliant thing, that's well
Speaker:worth investing money in, whereas other listeners would be like, well, I might
Speaker:as well wait until it's for free on the free version of the feed.
Speaker:So you've really got to think quite hard about how you're going to
Speaker:make this offer worthwhile investing in.
Speaker:You could do behind the scenes content that could be valuable to somebody,
Speaker:maybe even exclusive content that only paid members
Speaker:get. But of course, you've then got to bear in mind the conversion rates. So
Speaker:you might be putting all that effort in to create content that
Speaker:only five to ten people will ever hear. And if your main
Speaker:audience is thousands, sometimes it could
Speaker:be quite human for you to concentrate all that effort
Speaker:on the thousands of people that aren't giving you money and
Speaker:cutting corners with the few people that
Speaker:yes, they're giving you money, but they're not giving you those dopamine
Speaker:hits. Well worth thinking that one through before you follow
Speaker:down that path. As a revenue generation model,
Speaker:live events and workshops is another
Speaker:feasible way of you getting some revenue from your podcast.
Speaker:I'm talking about charging listeners to come to a live
Speaker:event and see the podcast playing out in person, or maybe
Speaker:workshops around the theme of your podcast. If you're a
Speaker:business coach, this could be a really, really good way of
Speaker:generating some new leads for one to one coaching by having a
Speaker:group coaching session at a predetermined location that they
Speaker:can show up at. It's a great way of offering listeners a
Speaker:taste of what your products are.
Speaker:So we're going to come back to my favorite type of
Speaker:monetization model for podcast episodes, and that
Speaker:is you as the product offering your
Speaker:services and your products with the podcast being the marketing
Speaker:platform. The great thing about this is it's really easy to
Speaker:funnel. You can start off by offering a free download that sort of acts as
Speaker:an introduction to what you do and who you are. Once they've downloaded that free
Speaker:product, you can then start upselling them because they'll be on your email
Speaker:list. You can start talking to them and nurturing them and
Speaker:educating them as to what you do. Those bigger
Speaker:problems they have that you can solve. You can help them
Speaker:identify those things that you can solve for them in
Speaker:real time, in regular communication through your email
Speaker:that's updating them about new podcast episodes. See how this
Speaker:works. So that's why that's my favorite method
Speaker:of monetizing a podcast, because then you
Speaker:don't have the ickiness of dealing with advertisers and making sure
Speaker:that their ads are going out and that you're getting paid for them and all
Speaker:that complicated paperwork that's going to be involved in that. You don't
Speaker:have to worry about memberships and keeping your listeners entertained and
Speaker:ensuring that they're getting the value for money from those special bits
Speaker:of content that you're having to record for them. You're definitely not having to worry
Speaker:about growing volume of audience in order to make enough
Speaker:money to survive and keep the podcast paid for. There's
Speaker:no ceiling on your earnings with this method. You
Speaker:earn as much as you decide, and that's down to
Speaker:how much you invest in the marketing of your podcast. And if you need
Speaker:to know more about how to grow a podcast in 2024,
Speaker:then you should definitely check out this other article that I've created
Speaker:on Podnospodcasting Co. Uk
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