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Speaker BNow here's your host, Eric G. Welcome.
Speaker ATo the around the House show, the next generation of home improvement.
Speaker AI'm Eric G. Thanks for joining me today, guys.
Speaker AThis is our midweek update.
Speaker AThis is the show we do in the middle of the week that didn't cover get covered last weekend and of course this next weekend.
Speaker AAnd we got a lot to cover today.
Speaker AWe're broadcasting from the war torn region of Portland, Oregon.
Speaker AYeah, come on.
Speaker AI'm trying to be funny.
Speaker AWe're not going to get into politics today because there's way too much of that, no matter what side you're on out there.
Speaker AAnd let's be honest, I'm not going to convince any one of you to change your mind.
Speaker ASo that's just a waste of my time and yours.
Speaker AAnd that's not what it's about today.
Speaker ALooks like we're smack dab in the middle of day one of government shutdown.
Speaker AAnd I know there's plenty of people that work for the government out there.
Speaker AThey're wondering if they're going to be getting their paychecks and stuff like that.
Speaker ABut I don't know.
Speaker AGot up this morning, my Internet worked, my power and lights were on.
Speaker AEverything was going good.
Speaker AWe'll see what happens.
Speaker ALong term.
Speaker AThis happens every year or two it seems.
Speaker AAnd I think how we have to fix that is we just really need to make sure that none of the elected officials get paid and they don't make the money back.
Speaker AIf they're the ones in charge of the budget, they don't get reimbursed.
Speaker AWe might not have this anymore otherwise.
Speaker AWe just got a bunch of grandstanding for both sides.
Speaker ABut that's my take.
Speaker ASo what I want to know we'll talk about today is an important one because this snuck in under all these things out there.
Speaker AThis snuck in under the radar and I want to talk about it because it's going to really affect some things out there.
Speaker AFirst off, the White House spells out its new details of the furniture and lumber tariffs.
Speaker ASo the White House released A fact sheet here this last week, basically that said, hey, here's what's going on.
Speaker AThis is going to apply to furniture and lumber imports and will apply to US Trading partners with the UK and European European Union.
Speaker ASpell that out in.
Speaker AAnd Japan set to receive more preferential terms because they already have trade agreements.
Speaker ASo this will impose a 25% tariffs on upholstered furniture imports, which will rise to 30% on January 1, 2026.
Speaker AImports of kitchen cabinets and vanities will face a 25% tariff that doubles to 50% on January 1.
Speaker ASo that's where we're at right now.
Speaker ASo let's dive into this.
Speaker ANow.
Speaker AI have been following and if you've been following the show for a long time on the radio or the podcast that you're listening right now, we have talked about this whole thing.
Speaker AThis has been a decades long battle between US Manufacturers of kitchen and bathroom vanities and countries like China and things like that, because they had been proven China to be dumping stuff in the US and so there have been a bunch of different tariffs going back and forth with that.
Speaker AThat's nothing new.
Speaker AHere's what's new.
Speaker ASo on imports of kitchen cabinets here on, I think it's October 14th, I believe is the date that this is going to come into effect.
Speaker ASo in a couple of weeks we're going to see this jump on.
Speaker ANow here's where this makes a difference.
Speaker AThere are large cabinet companies out there that say they're made in usa, but as of the last time I was looking at them and I was dealing with them, they were importing parts that were cut overseas in China.
Speaker ASo for instance, some of these major cabinet companies, and I'm talking about most of the ones in the home centers, the craft maids, even the Belmonts were doing it for a time.
Speaker AI don't know if they are now, but I don't want to talk brand specific because they could have changed it and I wouldn't have caught it.
Speaker ASo we're just going to talk about them as a whole.
Speaker ABut generally speaking, that is one of the reasons why they left the Kitchen Cabinet Manufacturers association because the association was pushing for these tariffs because they were sending in raw parts cheaper than these manufacturers could even buy the sheet goods.
Speaker ASo they were dumping them in below cost and that was because the government was subsidizing those.
Speaker ASo what happened is these major manufacturers to keep prices low, started buying cut parts from overseas.
Speaker ASo maybe they were shipping over plywood or particle board, but they were coming back with the little dumb stuff.
Speaker AThe Stretchers, the bottom of the cabinets, the backs of the cabinets, drawer boxes, things like that they were sending overseas to be pre cut for standard size boxes.
Speaker ANow since they're putting them all together in the US they were still made in usa, but many of those parts were coming from overseas.
Speaker AAnd so many people would walk into the home centers and go, wow, this is amazing.
Speaker AWe're buying these cabinets made in USA.
Speaker AProbably 30% of that cabinet could have been made overseas.
Speaker AThe difference on these tariffs and if you look at the, the sheet that the, that they came out with from the Trump administration, this fact sheet says something interesting and this is where you need to really watch on the stuff.
Speaker ASo this came out here on September 29th and it's called Supporting America's Lumber Industry.
Speaker AAnd so we go through this really quickly.
Speaker A25% global tariff on certain upholstered furniture, which will increase to 30% on January 1.
Speaker AThe proclamation imposes a 25% global tariff on kitchen cabinets and vanities, which will increase to 50% on January 1st.
Speaker ANow trading partners who negotiate with the US to address the threat of wood imports to the national security, the United States may also be able to secure an alternative to the pending tariff increases.
Speaker ASo they go through the European Union, Japan, uk, people that have agreements, how that's going to be different.
Speaker ANow what's interesting though is that they name in here not only cabinetry, but cabinetry parts.
Speaker AAnd that's where that gets interesting because that's going to hit those manufacturers.
Speaker ASo these guys are going to have to start building that back in here because they're saying, hey, by the way, we're going to, we're going to give you a warning.
Speaker AFirst shot is on October, which is now starting here in two weeks and then we're going to see it go up.
Speaker ASo all of a sudden it probably isn't going to make sense with what shipping costs are and everything else to send that over.
Speaker ASo that's going to be huge.
Speaker ANext up is where it gets interesting too is you know, we've had this huge issue and for all of you in North Carolina, I feel for you.
Speaker AYou have been losing so many of your large furniture manufacturing companies and what they're trying to do is to make these import pieces.
Speaker AAnd this is the stuff that you see on all the online websites.
Speaker AThis is the stuff that shows up in the Amazon box that you got to sit there and spend two weeks to put together.
Speaker AAnd the couch has 42 parts to put together versus the made in America thing that's already put together.
Speaker AThose were coming in so cheap as well.
Speaker ANow they're going to try to balance this out.
Speaker ASo, yes.
Speaker ADoes the American public pay more for these cheap things?
Speaker ANo question.
Speaker AWill it make those more expensive?
Speaker ANo question.
Speaker AWill people now start looking and going, wow, my time's worth something.
Speaker AMaybe they won't be tempted by these couches that last six months and you throw them away and they go in the dumpster.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AThat have tons of chemicals in them.
Speaker AThat might not be healthy for you.
Speaker AThis is all good stuff.
Speaker ASo let's think more about that.
Speaker AAnd yes, this will be more expensive.
Speaker ADoes that money go into the treasury and go help pay down the debt?
Speaker AAbsolutely.
Speaker ASo hopefully what this will do is spark some business here.
Speaker AAnd that's just the furniture and cabinetry side.
Speaker ANow, the 10% global tariff on softwood lumber is huge because many of our lumber comes out of Canada these days and they've been sending in way cheaper than we can do it here in my area here in the Pacific Northwest, many of our sawmills are shuttered because it's been coming in so cheap they can't keep them open here even with rail prices.
Speaker AI can see rail cars coming in and they are cruising in here.
Speaker AAnd because building is so low, we're seeing not a lot of houses being built compared to what we used to see.
Speaker AThat's even more interesting.
Speaker ASo if you measure that in yet, lumber right now is pretty low.
Speaker AIf you look statistically, Tom, on the lumber prices out there as far as the board foot price, so the raw material, are lumber companies marketed up more?
Speaker AIs there some more markup in there?
Speaker AYeah, I think so.
Speaker AIf I look back in, let's say 20.
Speaker ALet's go back to May of 2018, we were at 624 bucks a thousand board feet.
Speaker AThat's the lumber future prices.
Speaker AWhere were we this morning?
Speaker A618.
Speaker ASo that's where it is.
Speaker ANow, if we go back into the 2,020 ones, the peak I think was like 1686 in 2021.
Speaker AThat was nuts.
Speaker ABut right now, if we add 10% to that and we are now pulling out of our natural resources, we have the resources here.
Speaker AWe actually manage our forests pretty good when it comes to lumber is how that goes.
Speaker ASo I'm not worried about that.
Speaker AWe have the resources to do this and to keep those jobs.
Speaker AIn the US Right now, we've been just pushing the jobs coming out of Canada.
Speaker AThey're the ones that have got all these communities with their sawmills going.
Speaker AAnd here in the us, Ours have been Shutting down, which means all those small towns outside of the areas like Portland, Seattle, Northern California, get into Idaho, Montana, all of us here on the west coast.
Speaker AAt least all that stuff's been coming out of the north.
Speaker ASo they're trying to balance that out.
Speaker AIs that going to translate into some bigger prices?
Speaker AProbably not.
Speaker AI think it's going to spool up some stuff.
Speaker AWe'll start to see some of those sawmills cruising back up again, but it's not going to really change stuff.
Speaker ANow it might a little bit if we actually get house building back again and people start building homes again.
Speaker ABut that's probably six months to a year away unless we see some major changes to the interest rates out there.
Speaker ABecause right now, even if the interest rates were down low, many people are living like we all are, paycheck to paycheck out there.
Speaker ASo that's really gotta change.
Speaker AWe gotta have more cash in people's pockets and low enough interest rates where people want to take the risk to go to the next size house.
Speaker AAll right, that's my rant on today's lumber prices, the tariffs, cabinetry, that kind of stuff.
Speaker ANow let's take a look here real quick and see what we have for our recalls like we do each week, see if there's anything here that is something you should be paying attention to.
Speaker ANow.
Speaker AFirst off, what's interesting is the little warning you get when you jump onto the Consumer Product Safety Commission site.
Speaker AIt says CPS see activities during a lapse on appropriations.
Speaker ADuring the lapse in federal appropriations, CPSC will continue its critical work to protect the public from imminent threats.
Speaker ABasically saying, hey, we're not going to be doing any of our big meetings, but we're still going to be watching.
Speaker ASo they still have a skeleton staff working on product recalls and warnings, which probably isn't that much of a skeleton, but it's an interesting little warning.
Speaker AWhat I'm looking at here, we got some blinds here, about 133,000 of them.
Speaker APursu lux home.com.
Speaker Athere's some zebra blinds, entanglement hazards off Amazon.
Speaker AI'm sure they'll notify you there because they know exactly who bought those.
Speaker AAuto Easy brands.
Speaker ABamboo shades, same thing.
Speaker AThis is where you start to see where stuff comes from and who, what brands are related.
Speaker AWhen you see the same recalls for the same things.
Speaker AAnd really, really not too much on here.
Speaker ASunbeam recalls more than a million Oster French door countertop ovens.
Speaker ADue to a burn hazard, the doors can unexpectedly close.
Speaker AThere's about 1.3 million of those.
Speaker ABe careful.
Speaker AAnd the rest of that stuff is stuff from last week.
Speaker ASo really there's not a lot on there this week that is out there for you.
Speaker ASo if you've got one of those, you can always find out more at cpsc.
Speaker AAll right, guys, I gotta get back at it today.
Speaker AI've got a few more things.
Speaker AGreat news.
Speaker AI did get an offer on the house.
Speaker ASo we'll see if we make it through that inspection period.
Speaker AGonna be curious to see how that comes out.
Speaker AI know all those things about my house, but it's always interesting to see to what the inspector says.
Speaker AWill this be a showdown or is this going to be an easy skate?
Speaker ATime will tell.
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