[00:00:00] Welcome back to Katching Up With Katie. Today we're just kind of hanging out, chatting about

[00:00:05] things to come. We got Stephanie here. This is, I think, the third time we've been on

[00:00:10] Katching Up With Katie. And I promised her that this time did not have to be a Stephanie Q&A,

[00:00:16] where we make her talk about herself the entire time. So, you can just kind of vibe and interject

[00:00:22] if you wish. But we have lots of things coming up. We have horse shows. We have Matthew. So, right

[00:00:30] before the intro to this, Matt bravely saved... What is happening? I did get bit. I think he got

[00:00:36] bit. He bravely saved Stephanie from a spider that was over her head. Do you know what kind it was?

[00:00:42] Did you take a picture of it? It certainly wasn't poisonous. It was just a little jumping spider.

[00:00:45] How do you know? It was a giant black spider. It wasn't poisonous, though. How do you know? Because

[00:00:51] I looked at it before I grabbed it. But how do you have a directory of poisonous spiders? Yeah,

[00:00:56] for locally around Tennessee. What? In the Nolensville area. You should give it a try. Give

[00:01:07] what a try? I did. Oh, hold on. You should see if a web comes out. Oh, buddy, that's looking not

[00:01:14] too good. We'll see. We'll see. Oh, do you see two little fang marks? Yes. Where'd they go? We'll see

[00:01:21] how it goes. We'll see how it goes. Was it black and have a red thing on the back of it? No. Oh,

[00:01:26] no, no, no. Because if that's the case, then we're not even worried about it, because I won't make it

[00:01:29] to the hospital anyway. Is that for real? I'm pretty sure. I think you can live from a black

[00:01:34] widow bite if you get there fast enough. Can you look right after this segment? Can you look up

[00:01:40] the mortality rate of a black widow spider bite? Have you ever been bit by a spider? I don't think

[00:01:46] so. Like a brown recluse? You would know. Don't they eat at your skin? Yeah, that's a rough one.

[00:01:54] Fatalities are virtually non-existent since the 1980s. No confirmed deaths since the '80s. Really?

[00:02:03] Really? That's very... Well, there's always a first. So, we're just going to move on. I would

[00:02:10] like to point out, some of us work outside in the heat for a living, and we're outside

[00:02:14] all day just sweating and working hard. Been out, you know, outside since 5:36 a.m. Others,

[00:02:24] does it look like they are affected by the heat? We're sticking with this. I was trying to think

[00:02:29] of something witty, but I couldn't in time. Are we just sticking with this bit? Yes. Well, I like it,

[00:02:35] because it's not a bit for me. It's more of a new chapter, new page. I'm just trying to... I

[00:02:43] want to be the guy that kind of wears sports coats places and stuff, and just looks nice,

[00:02:48] you know, looking nice. I saw a video the other day, and it's so me. They were like,

[00:02:52] I want so bad to be mysterious, but I just can't shut the hell up, you know? I want

[00:03:00] to change that in myself, and I want to be like no one knows anything about me. I'm mysterious,

[00:03:06] but the things that come out of my mouth on a daily basis about things that happened,

[00:03:13] everyone knows everything, and I just wish I would shut up sometimes. Yeah, I just hopped on what I'm

[00:03:20] calling the bandwagon of betterment. Oh, I feel like I'm just bettering myself a little bit by a

[00:03:26] little bit. I got a lot to work on. Square one. Are you going to think about that later? Yeah.

[00:03:37] You're red. That was pretty cut. Cut the camera. Also, I did see quite a few comments. And hold on,

[00:03:49] I saw a lot of comments asking, they're like, why does she have a can in her mug? Oh my gosh,

[00:03:54] I bet it's for copyright reasons. I was just being silly. Yeah, it's a new merch product

[00:04:01] we're working on, but that wouldn't be a bad idea. It's basically because we got koozies coming out

[00:04:08] in a week. Not a bad idea. We had them last year, they sold out really fast. But yeah, we have a lot

[00:04:17] going on. It's freaking hot, and we're working, and we've been getting up and riding early,

[00:04:22] which I've very much enjoyed. I mean, you get up and ride early every day. I started getting up

[00:04:26] and riding early. It's nice, though. It is. It's always beautiful that time. It makes me feel very

[00:04:31] accomplished, like I've already gotten so much done by the time that I would normally start work.

[00:04:36] So, I've been riding every morning, and we've brought another horse into the rotation, which is

[00:04:43] Rikki. And so, Rikki, I mean, I don't feel like... she had a baby this year, but I don't feel like

[00:04:48] y'all even know her. No, just her babies. Just her babies. Baby, Rando Rikki, I rode her a couple

[00:04:56] times, and then you rode her today, and she looked really good today. We're just kind of doing what

[00:05:01] we did with Kennedy, and I'm just a firm believer that the more you use it, the longer you have it.

[00:05:10] And so, yeah, with the broodmares that are able, that don't have an injury that prevents them, I'm

[00:05:17] like, if they're not having babies, why not have them a little fitter? It doesn't mean we're going

[00:05:21] to take them to shows. I mean, if she looks really good and sound, maybe she's broke, and she looks

[00:05:29] sound, and I think she's happy to work. So, we are going to have... because we're already, with

[00:05:35] any of our horses that we ride and we're trying to get ready for big shows and stuff, we do regular

[00:05:40] routine checks on them with the vet, and make sure they're staying sound, because horses are stoic,

[00:05:46] and so sometimes even if they don't look sound, they might have something bothering them. And

[00:05:49] so we said the next time the vet's out for that, which is soon, we were just going to do an overall

[00:05:54] check, but she looks great. And so, that brought me to an idea. Mhm. Why do you have your face like

[00:06:04] that? Just contorted from the other episode a second ago. I just like new ideas. Because now,

[00:06:15] you know, you've both ridden Ethel. Yeah. No one's necessarily ridden Kennedy, but I feel like she's

[00:06:21] back in the swing of things, where she could tote somebody around, maybe, if she's tired enough,

[00:06:27] maybe. She's like, no. But Rikki, I think she did have a little bit of a hissy fit yesterday,

[00:06:35] but that was because I was asking 100% from her. If you let her just do what she wants, she's, I

[00:06:42] think, super easy. It came to my brain that we now have three broke horses that are kindish, and they

[00:06:54] know how to do the western pleasure. And I think we could maybe put on a little horse show in the

[00:07:06] new arena, because now that's big enough. It's big enough. It's beautiful. The scenery is gorgeous.

[00:07:13] It has space where we could put up... obviously not to the public, but friends and family. No,

[00:07:23] it's your bids. No, it would not be to the public. We're having a horse show. But what if we did a

[00:07:29] horse show? And I thought about this for a little bit, because I thought I'd pitch it to you today.

[00:07:33] And you don't know about this yet, because I'm also intertwining you. So, Rachel's not here,

[00:07:39] she's my coach, she'll be everyone's coach, in my book. We'll get to that. So Rachel would also be

[00:07:47] in on this as a participant, because I have three horses. So, you two plus Rachel. Now,

[00:07:54] she's pretty experienced. I believe she's gotten thrown off a horse. Yeah, she's broken. She

[00:08:00] clearly doesn't know how to ride one. Yeah, she's a handicap. She's obviously not good at this.

[00:08:08] I've never been thrown off a horse, is all I can say. So, my thought process was, we maybe have

[00:08:18] a challenge where you each get lessons with Stephanie again. And I'm volunteering you

[00:08:25] for this, because in my head it would be really cool if we did a horse show,

[00:08:33] because when we go to horse shows, for me, there's multiple classes, right? Mhm. So, what if it was

[00:08:41] kind of like the versatility, like how Denver did it, where it's western pleasure, a pattern,

[00:08:48] and then halter or something like that? Because I thought about showmanship, but I don't think any

[00:08:54] of them know showmanship. No, but we could crash course. We didn't know how to rope, that should

[00:08:59] be a bonus class. And if you can figure it out in your... well, we know how to rope in Texas,

[00:09:03] and we got a crash course. I don't think it would be the best video if we did a crash course,

[00:09:10] though. That's why I think you need lessons. Okay, we'll keep it like a saga, but... okay,

[00:09:16] maybe the bare minimum of showmanship, like a very basic showmanship. So, what if it was like

[00:09:21] a halter hybrid? We could do that. So, it was more like showmanship, how they do like sheep, where

[00:09:27] you're showing your horse off. So, it's based off of, did you set your horse up for the judge?

[00:09:32] Yes. Did you hold her head up? Did you get her ears up? Did you... more like that. Okay. Yeah,

[00:09:36] that makes more sense, because me thinking halter, I'm like, well, somebody's just going to win it

[00:09:42] and someone's going to lose. But with horses, or with people that have never done this with horses,

[00:09:48] it's like, what if they perk them out really bad, or that would be against them, you know? Yeah.

[00:09:54] It's more based, in my head, on how they present the horse for the halter class, rather than the

[00:10:01] horse's conformation. Who's judging? He sold me on... so that's the part I don't know. I mean,

[00:10:06] I wouldn't say Stephanie is necessarily biased, but she's a trainer. I couldn't be... if I was

[00:10:12] coaching, I couldn't be... I think we have to keep her totally biased, right? Or, not biased.

[00:10:17] Unbiased. Unbiased. Completely unbiased. And I feel like it would, if we were somebody...

[00:10:24] if we were going to do it, I almost thought about, if we could try to hire an actual judge,

[00:10:31] and get their reasoning, or a trainer, at least. Yeah. Mhm. I did think about Taft, because he was

[00:10:40] so good on camera. He likes to put up a fight, and be like, what did you get me into? And then

[00:10:45] he sits down and is so good with his words, and charismatic, comfortable. Yes. Yeah. And I think

[00:10:53] we could convince him personally, especially since Rikki's one of the horses, but also,

[00:10:58] I feel like he's going to be very critical. Well, he's got a favorite. He's got a favorite. Horse

[00:11:06] or person? Horse. A horse. I was like, who is it? Dang. Oh, that's true, Rikki will just win

[00:11:15] everything. I didn't think about that. I mean, I think she has a good chance of being the horse

[00:11:20] you'd want to draw. Oh. It's all about the rider. But anyway, okay. Okay, we'll brainstorm. We'll

[00:11:27] keep thinking about the judge, because I do think I need to be the MC. I can't judge you. No. Yeah,

[00:11:35] no, you can't. You do, because I would definitely, I think, let personal things get in the way. Like,

[00:11:43] I don't want Nate to win, she would let that get in the way. I think we need an offsite judge that

[00:11:52] has... but if I keep thinking of a real horse show, I'm thinking of, you know, actual pleasure,

[00:11:59] not making it more based on the rider thing. Taft could do that. He, you know, he could do

[00:12:04] that. Let's, we'll have fun with that. Will there be three judges? Oh, that's a good point. Like

[00:12:12] how the versatility, they isolate them so that they don't know, and they place it in the class,

[00:12:19] because then they're isolated, so they can't sway it to make someone win, you know? Like, just

[00:12:26] three judges. Oh, that's a good idea. And another curveball could be really fun, because, you know,

[00:12:32] we don't really know what we're doing. What if one of the judges has no idea what they're doing?

[00:12:39] Like, it's a random... we could find someone who knows, like, you could say, what is this? No, no,

[00:12:47] no, no, like, what is this called on a horse, and they'd say a foot. They wouldn't even know

[00:12:51] it's called a hoof. That's the guy we want. We just find... Charles would have the whole... I

[00:12:58] try to do fun things and also make it educational. That's true. That's true. The wildcard judge. So,

[00:13:04] what if we did... okay, y'all would eat this up. What if the wildcard judge was in costume? Like,

[00:13:14] you don't know who it is. No. Like, when I was a kid, in PoA, Ponies of America, they

[00:13:22] have a costume class. You dress you and your horse up in a costume, and you have a little one-minute

[00:13:27] monologue. I'm in. Yeah, Rachel's going to die. She's going to be like, you sold me a monologue,

[00:13:36] I'm going to start riding. So, when I was a kid, I had lots of costumes, but my favorite one,

[00:13:41] I was a costume. Like, I'm talking full body costume on the horse. Halloween costume. I was a

[00:13:50] Barbie fairy, and my horse was a unicorn, and she had fairy wings, and we had a whole body sleazy

[00:13:57] on her that was sparkles, and... yeah. And I was Barbie, I was a fairy Barbie, and so I was like,

[00:14:03] hi, I'm Barbara, I'm Barbie, aka Barbara Millicent Roberts. Did the whole thing. Okay,

[00:14:11] I was way too old to be doing it. You had a speech. I had a one-minute monologue. Yeah, dude,

[00:14:16] forget everything else, PoA made us speak. Why don't we do that now? In my head, I'm thinking,

[00:14:20] freestyle reining or something like that, where it's just costume. Like, I already know you're

[00:14:26] going to be like Daenerys on a dragon. I literally have... dude, that would be funny. Yeah. Yeah,

[00:14:33] that's really a great idea. Wildcard judge, and it's like a 5% bonus. It's not a big one,

[00:14:39] you know, the break. It's, yeah, it's like the tiebreaker. And so, I remember, at the AQHA Youth

[00:14:47] World, you... I don't know, do you know if they still do the freestyle equitation and freestyle

[00:14:53] horsemanship? I don't know, I don't think so. So, back in the day, they used to do freestyle

[00:14:58] equitation, where you made your own pattern. You had three minutes, or two and a half minutes,

[00:15:04] something like that. You had music you could bring in, and you did a costume. And so, my horse and I,

[00:15:12] Calvin, I will go get a picture of this. I will find a picture of this to show you. Do you have

[00:15:17] video evidence? I'm sure somewhere, I don't have it on my phone ready to go. But my horse

[00:15:23] Calvin had the best lead changes ever, and was so broke, and it was my last Youth World. So,

[00:15:30] I dressed up like a biker chick. I had on tattoo sleeves, a leather vest, a flaming do-rag. I wore

[00:15:39] black pants, or my black tall boots, because it was equitation, so it's English. And he had on a

[00:15:47] full body black slinky that my mom hand-painted a horse skeleton with flames on it. Oh, that's

[00:15:54] cool. And we did it to Wanted Dead or Alive by Bon Jovi, but my friend's husband, who knew how to do

[00:16:03] whatever stuff, he put motorcycle revving within it. And so, Calvin was really good at spinning, he

[00:16:13] was really good at lead changes, and he was broke. So, we did bridleless. Oh my gosh. So, he had no

[00:16:18] bridle on for the entire thing. We did a bunch of spins, and a bunch of tempi lead changes, and all

[00:16:24] this stuff. I was so mad. And the girl who won, I was second, the girl who won was great, okay,

[00:16:35] but it was that she jumped in it. I'll do it. Yeah, you're winning if you jump. So, she had just

[00:16:42] won the equitation over fences. Yeah, actually the equitation over fences. And so, she dressed up as

[00:16:49] a minion. I mean, yeah, was she a minion? Got my vote. No, I think the minion was a whole different

[00:16:56] thing, actually. I don't know what it is, but she had people come in there with her, and they had

[00:17:01] a log, and they just ran around the arena holding the log at different spots and different heights,

[00:17:07] and she kept jumping it. Yeah, that's really sick. That's really cool. Anyway, I was still good.

[00:17:14] Well, I feel like now you're just like, well, you were the first of all the other people who didn't

[00:17:18] have a literal jumping horse, probably. Yeah. No, you got second, so you were... yeah. Anyway,

[00:17:25] it was very fun. And so, I'm not saying that's what y'all would do, you would just do a costume

[00:17:30] in a... well, I would need to know, I would need to know, like, Tiffany changes, spins, bridleless.

[00:17:35] What are you thinking? Okay, let's just spitball here. Whenever we say, like, the conception of,

[00:17:41] are we drawing names? Are we... okay. Okay, so, my... okay, you're not going to like this, because

[00:17:46] I've also thought about this. Yeah. So, based on Rachel, Nate, and Matt, and the riding experience

[00:17:54] that you all three have, and me knowing the three horses that are available, mhm, I think it should

[00:18:02] be a drawing. Okay. But I personally believe we should take Kennedy's name out when you draw.

[00:18:09] I think you draw first, I think... and here's why I think that is: because what I know in my

[00:18:17] heart of hearts will happen is that all of these quirks that Kennedy has, the way that she sneezes,

[00:18:24] the way that she throws her head, the way that she doesn't like to walk for extended periods of time,

[00:18:33] she's still a champion, and it comes down to the rider, and I think that she has yet to find

[00:18:40] a rider that she can truly connect with, and I might be it. Might be it. So, I, you know, comma,

[00:18:50] could be a little too rowdy. Could be a dragon. A little too rowdy for me. But, you know, I think it

[00:18:56] should be something that fate decides, rather than the system. So, if he does draw Kennedy,

[00:19:02] you have to give him a safety button of some sort, or a safety word. Pineapple. Pineapple. Pineapple.

[00:19:10] Abort mission. Arms up, tilt. Watch her be the best of the three. So,

[00:19:18] okay, if we decide that's the way we go, we have something y'all just draw out of. So,

[00:19:25] we would do it kind of how we did the Christmas thing, where y'all draw for what order you pick,

[00:19:30] and then you draw. And I think we do a pleasure class, horsemanship pattern, and then, like we

[00:19:41] said, halter, but it's more based on how you show the horse versus the horse's conformation.

[00:19:47] Yeah. And then it's a cumulative score as to who wins. So, like the versatility at the World Show,

[00:19:53] I think it's like 40%, 40%, 20%, something like that. 40% for the pleasure, 40% for the pattern,

[00:20:00] 20% for the halter. Kind of feel like that's the vibe. 15%, and then 5%. Yeah. Yeah,

[00:20:07] maybe 15% and then 5% for the costume. Dude, I'm so excited about... I'm not letting that die. But,

[00:20:16] yeah, y'all have to do it. Yeah, you have to make it handmade. Well, that's, and I'm really,

[00:20:23] that's what's leading to your costume, but you can buy a slinky, you can buy whatever, but, you know,

[00:20:31] I need to know how much time... you can't commission somebody to make you... no, no, no,

[00:20:34] I would never, I would never, I'm a... mine, yeah, 3D print, just another horse. But what's the time

[00:20:45] frame from drawing a horse from the hat to the show day? So, I haven't even thought about that,

[00:20:49] because I think, okay, depending on... in your professional opinion, mhm. So, Nate's ridden how

[00:20:57] many times, do you think, in the last two years, on those types of horses? But he took a few

[00:21:01] lessons on just walk, point-and-go kind of horses. I've been on... I probably rode near my house

[00:21:14] four times. And then I've hopped on probably three other times, so probably seven times.

[00:21:23] Like the day that we rode ropers last year, you picked it up pretty quick. Yeah. Yeah,

[00:21:29] I've had... pretty quick. I've never had a lesson. I've had one lesson on going and turning,

[00:21:41] and stopping, but I've never had a lesson. Rachel is definitely at an advantage. Yes,

[00:21:48] in this situation. What's her history? She showed, she did it as a youth kid. So,

[00:21:54] she's had some time, though. So, she's the favorite, though, I would say, going into it.

[00:22:01] If we were betting, I would be betting on her. The odds are strong in Rachel's favor. But also,

[00:22:06] I think it depends on the draw. I think it depends on if she draws Kennedy, and Kennedy decides to be

[00:22:15] real touchy that day, or whatever. If she draws Rikki, you're screwed. I also want to throw in,

[00:22:24] that whole Kennedy monologue was just BS. And I really will trust Katie's judgment. If she doesn't

[00:22:28] think that I can do that, then I'll probably... if you did... okay, here's my thing. If you did draw

[00:22:33] Kennedy, we reserve one lesson to assess. Yeah. We will do one lesson and assess, and if not,

[00:22:40] we will all redraw, and we will take Kennedy out for you. Circling back a week, two weeks from

[00:22:49] drawing. Okay. So, I'm envisioning, timeline-wise, doing this somewhere when it's not too cold,

[00:22:56] but not blazing hot outside. April 23rd. But I also don't want to be doing... no, I don't want to

[00:23:02] really be having Kennedy get riled up. Oh, yeah. Yeah, like right before Congress. So, I'm thinking

[00:23:07] right after Congress. So, after the last week, or the first week of November, like the first week

[00:23:12] of November. It doesn't get too cold here yet by then. I mean, it's cold some days. We could try to

[00:23:18] watch the weather. December is still pretty warm, we could watch the weather. And so, I'm thinking

[00:23:23] right after Congress, and, as a professional, if you're giving them a western pleasure lesson,

[00:23:32] a pattern lesson, and a halter lesson, I think they should just get one each, do you think? So,

[00:23:40] here's the thing, is this going to be walk-trot? Oh, no, we're walk-trot-lope. Oh, we're loping.

[00:23:45] And your reputation... my reputation's on the line. Reputation. Your reputation's on the line,

[00:23:51] too. I see. Yeah. What if they suck? That just means you suck as a trainer. I need a year, then.

[00:23:57] I need a year, low-key, though, that would be cool, need a solid year. But, well, you get one.

[00:24:09] Well, I also feel like you could do one lesson for the halter portion, that's what I'm saying,

[00:24:15] and then maybe a couple for the riding. Let me ask you this: is it something, let's just say,

[00:24:20] you said November, let's just say we do this in November, is it something that we establish,

[00:24:25] the drawing of the horse, like, now, and then, over the course, well, you know, yeah, maybe

[00:24:31] once a month or something like that? So, it's not like piling it all in right before the show. Maybe

[00:24:38] we should do that. Maybe we should go ahead and start, and make it a series. Do we call Rachel up

[00:24:43] here right now? Do we draw horses right now? Do we draw her right now? Yeah, call her. I'll call her.

[00:24:47] Oh, RH Trucking, I almost said her number, which I don't have memorized. It was just like 0983. Yeah,

[00:25:00] I shouldn't put it on speaker. Yeah, put it on speaker, with our current relationship status.

[00:25:06] Hello. Hey. What are you doing right now? I'm at the barn, what do you need? Do you

[00:25:12] think you could make your way to the podcast room for a brief moment? Absolutely. Thanks so

[00:25:18] much. Be there in a minute. Yeah, talk about somebody who knew they were on camera. Well,

[00:25:26] absolutely, we're scheduling that way. It's not like... and if we go ahead and draw now,

[00:25:30] we're committing. We're committing. Yeah, we're committing, which we are known to not have. So,

[00:25:34] I think, if we could make it a series where we do, hey, here's everyone's western pleasure lessons,

[00:25:44] one video, yeah, here's everyone's horsemanship lessons, what, like, then it's a journey,

[00:25:52] and I think it would be fun. Here's the thing, though, that I've also thought of. So,

[00:25:58] I would like my part in this horse show, and in the video, I would like to be the commentator.

[00:26:03] I would like to be the person up there, whatever, saying, walk your horses, yeah, trot your horses,

[00:26:11] calling out the winners, things like that. But also, in between, I would like to be back

[00:26:18] here commentating, being like, yeah, they were having issues with that in the warm-up, you know,

[00:26:24] I want to be that person. But I need someone to have repertoire with. And I feel like you'd be the

[00:26:28] person to talk with about it, because you're like, hey, in practice, you know, they got this, let's

[00:26:32] see if they get it here. But at the same time, how are they going to get in the pen? You know what

[00:26:36] I mean? That's what I'm saying, you would need to be on the ground. Do we have a ground person

[00:26:42] that we could trust to get them in the ring? Or, I feel like this, for me, would be comparable to

[00:26:51] having a small fry show, which gives a lot of anxiety to me. It'll give me the same vibe. So,

[00:27:01] I know at once I have to be there. I'll go ahead and tell you that if we go through this thing,

[00:27:07] and then it's time to go into the ring, and Stephanie is not beside me, for me to go,

[00:27:12] I feel like I don't know what I'm doing on the horse. And she goes, you know what, you're okay.

[00:27:16] Yeah, that'll take me miles. I think I need my trainer right beside me as I go in. Yes. I think

[00:27:23] I'll feel like a lost dog or something, being like... but I just feel like I can't just be a

[00:27:31] her dad. I don't know. Rebecca. Rebecca. She was literally... above everybody else, she is

[00:27:40] the perfect one. Do you think she would comment? I don't know if she would commentate it. Yeah, she

[00:27:45] would. She would commentate to you, like you'd be conversing back. She's too nice. Here's the thing,

[00:27:50] because she'd be like, that was good. Well, you need to have yin and yang, because you're

[00:27:55] not going to be like, no, no, no, he did good, and she'd be too nice. I could maybe be like,

[00:28:02] you got to be real. Yeah, I know, she can be your devil's advocate. I feel like we also need an

[00:28:09] extra person on top of that, who's more like the reporter in the field, who you cut to for just 10,

[00:28:16] 15 seconds, like, you just finished your run or something, and you're kind of trotting out. Oh,

[00:28:22] I should have said we got to have... oh, yeah, some pieces of paper, we're drawing horses. Yeah,

[00:28:30] I know. Yeah. So, you come trotting out after your run, it's like, and now a word from so-and-so,

[00:28:36] how do you think you did, with what we said on the last... on the Twitch, with a DJI on the Twitch,

[00:28:43] or something like that? Yeah. No, we need a real reporter microphone. Yeah,

[00:28:48] then back to you. Oh my gosh. Who? We got to get some people. Let's get real for a moment,

[00:28:54] the reporter needs to be really animated. And, if we can get real just for a moment,

[00:28:58] let's talk about the prize. Yeah, what is the winner? Have not thought about that. I have.

[00:29:07] Don't worry, I've been thinking the last 20 minutes. I think whoever wins this thing

[00:29:13] ought to be able to show in your name at the next World Show.

[00:29:20] Well, representing Katie Van Slyke, that. So, Rachel did ride Rikki yesterday. Quite well.

[00:29:28] Rikki, as in one of the ones that's on here? Yeah, she's getting... so, how many lessons

[00:29:32] does freaking Rachel get? She's going to get a ton, she's here every single day. Yeah. No,

[00:29:37] that's food for thought. Yeah, that's food for thought. That is food for thought. She's... so,

[00:29:43] we get to take whoever we draw home, and we get to practice at home, and get a little bit of R&R and

[00:29:49] stuff. Yeah, to bond. Yeah, I need bonding time. So, Rachel, we added a class, what is it? So,

[00:29:59] Western Pleasure is 40%, Pattern is 40%, Halter is 15%, 5% costume. I love it. She loves it. You have

[00:30:15] to fully commit to costume. I have chaps, I have a hat. There's no chaps in costume class. Oh. Oh,

[00:30:24] costume class, costume, dressing up. I think that's terrible. What did I say? She was going

[00:30:30] to hate it. Okay, you have to dress up like a princess. Okay, to do that every day. So,

[00:30:39] don't open it yet. Okay, don't open it yet. No, I was just waiting my turn in

[00:30:48] anticipation. T-Rex arm. There's only one left. Oh, okay, this is just the order of

[00:30:56] which you get to draw. Okay. Two. One. Three. Two. One. So, I don't even get to draw? Bummer,

[00:31:08] I get what's left. Oh, I got a sweaty hand. You get the first draw. You don't... okay, no one

[00:31:15] open theirs until everyone's drawn. Okay. Okay. Or, yeah, yeah, yeah, because we don't want to.

[00:31:22] I'm nervous. I am also nervous. I'm sitting at a cool 115 right now, over here.

[00:31:34] Dude, it's the last one. Oh, I touched your hand, sorry. Okay,

[00:31:38] three, two, hold on, actually. Actually, I want to do it one at a time. Okay,

[00:31:46] we'll go in order. Rachel, you already know, I already

[00:31:54] She got Rikki. I'm going to dominate. Who'd you

[00:32:00] get? That can only mean that I got the best, or the worst, for me. Kennedy.

[00:32:09] Hey, look at Ethel. Honestly, Kennedy, I think this is how it should... this is how

[00:32:16] it's going to be rigged anyway. Now, you said if she gets Rikki,

[00:32:21] it's no competition. I don't think there was really a competition anyway.

[00:32:26] I have to say, I've been riding horses my whole life. Yes. And Rikki yesterday. I didn't say I

[00:32:35] rode them. Well, I will say you are now banned from her, unless you are doing... that's fair.

[00:32:41] Okay, here we go, let's do it. Kennedy. Okay, me and Kennedy, we now have a... you're excused.

[00:32:53] Thank you, Rachel. Thank you. Thank you. So, thank you,

[00:32:58] Rachel. Now we are committed, and it's set in stone. It's committed now. Good luck,

[00:33:03] I wish you the best. It's happening. What kind of costume... like, I did it one time where I

[00:33:10] was a fairy and my horse was a unicorn. Some people... I saw one guy that was a fisherman,

[00:33:16] and he made his horse the boat. You could be a horse, and make your horse a person.

[00:33:24] That would be horrible. You could be a horse and make your horse a person. It's like a fly mask, it

[00:33:33] looks like a person. Yeah, that's so funny. What's the percentage? 5%. No, you have to fully commit,

[00:33:40] or you're disqualified. I'm going to commit. I'm justified. New rule, new rule, they will commit

[00:33:46] way harder. That's fine, but you should still commit and be a fun person. I will be. I'm going

[00:33:53] to beat her, because she feels like she doesn't need that 5%. No, no, no, no, no. And I'm going

[00:33:57] to beat her now. Should we make it like halter's 10% and costume's 10%? I'm putting so much effort

[00:34:05] into my costume. Take the percentage away from the costume and the halter, though, I feel like you

[00:34:10] got to keep that. So, should we do... what do you mean? You said what, 15 for halter? Yeah, and then

[00:34:20] five. Maybe you do 15 and 10. Well, no, because... okay, then where else do I take a percentage from?

[00:34:26] The riding. You think I should take a little bit away from the riding? I would take a little away

[00:34:30] from the riding. What if you take five points from each riding class to make it a little more fair?

[00:34:34] That's 15% for costume. Yeah, because now it's... so, it's 35, 35, 10, or 15. 35, 35, 15. No, that's

[00:34:43] only 90. No, we're missing a class. Oh, it's just 5%. What was it, 40, 40, 20? Yeah. Do you

[00:34:50] need another? Yeah. 35. 35. Do the math. 15. 15. No. No, it works in my head, that works. Yeah, 35,

[00:35:02] 35, 15. Yeah, 35 and 35 is 70, 15 is 30, 70 and 30 is 100. Okay, you were just spitballing right

[00:35:08] then. Okay, I trust you. Thank you, Rachel. Thank you, Rachel. All right, but now I'm so excited,

[00:35:16] because we were just talking about prizes. That's not happening. I do think we need a physical prize

[00:35:24] of sorts. Yeah. Ribbons are not... no, not cool. Well, if we're going to do it... yeah, ribbons are

[00:35:32] cool, we should do a neck ribbon. Yeah, I feel like we need a bronze, a regular horse trophy,

[00:35:38] because let me tell you something, over the Christmas special, this win would last me a long

[00:35:45] time. I would hold this win to heart, because it's just a lot cooler to me than the Christmas win.

[00:35:52] So, my thought process is... there's no need for side-eye, there's no need for side comments, this

[00:35:57] is all... look, what if we did something for all three participants, but there's one winner trophy?

[00:36:05] She's already... I want this, hear me out, I want this. We do the actual, I want a buckle trophy

[00:36:13] for the overall. That's what I was going to do, I was hoping you were going that direction, because

[00:36:18] I want one. So, I was saying, because y'all go to horse shows, and I don't know what we'd call it.

[00:36:26] Is that... is that the same as stolen valor? No, we don't. No. Where'd you get your horse? Oh, the

[00:36:32] KBS Corral. Well, we're not going to call... do we call it like the Running Springs something, or the

[00:36:38] RS? We can come up with something cool. What are the... what are RD ones? NSBA. RSBA. RSBA. What's

[00:36:47] the BA? Breeders Association. RSBA, the RSBA World Show. Yeah, because RSBA National, I don't know.

[00:37:02] RSBA Versatility Challenge. Yeah. Yeah, there we go, RSBA has a nice ring to it. Okay,

[00:37:08] so I was thinking, y'all go to horse shows, having a nice belt buckle is important. I agree. And you

[00:37:16] already have the hats. So, what if we did a big old bronze? Do we do a traveling trophy? That

[00:37:23] might be a good idea for the overall winner, you think? Like a big marble thing that has multiple

[00:37:29] things on it, put the nameplates on it, going to do it every year, forever. I mean, it's a

[00:37:34] real horse show now. Yeah, it will only grow. This thing, like the NSBA World Show, had to have its

[00:37:45] first one. Yeah, and probably nowhere near as many people. Something just like this: a bunch of guys

[00:37:50] around a table, just talking, throwing some ideas out, and now look where it is. They probably said,

[00:37:54] there's a Congress, but there's no NSBA, let's do one of those, look at it. World Show. And,

[00:38:00] how new. Well, we should call it something other than RSBA, then. But anyway, I do agree, I don't

[00:38:10] hate calling it a versatility challenge, though. Yes. It can just be Challenge, like the Running

[00:38:16] Springs Versatility Challenge. Yeah. Mhm. So, I think maybe we do a big marble, like the bottom

[00:38:25] of it marble, and then a bronze on top. I need to look at how much these things cost before I make

[00:38:32] promises. But, you know how they have them, maybe it's wooden, how they have them where there's

[00:38:38] multiple plaques? I think a traveling trophy of sorts, and then everyone gets an award for first

[00:38:47] through third place. Yeah, top three. What does it say on the third? Get an award for every class.

[00:38:55] Are you going to do that? Now we're getting... but the winner is an accumulation, right? The winner,

[00:39:00] the accumulation, needs to just be one winner. But what about the winner of each class? Yeah,

[00:39:04] because we're going to place each class, and the points you get from that, it technically,

[00:39:10] you could win one of the classes, you want to get a neck ribbon. So, like Denver, when he was in the

[00:39:16] Versatility Challenge, he won two out of the three events, so he got two neck ribbons. He got... oh,

[00:39:20] I didn't know that was a thing. Yeah, maybe we just do a neck ribbon per event. Mhm. And then,

[00:39:30] imagine Ethel posted up there with three neck ribbons and a bronze statue, and just... and me.

[00:39:40] I don't know. Maybe, what do you think should be the prize? I'd like to hear some ideas,

[00:39:46] because we're open to ideas, this is all new, this is all something that we're throwing together.

[00:39:51] Are you going to invite your families? Yeah. Can we? Yeah. Then, yeah, I don't know,

[00:39:56] it's a horse show, we can have some... because we have that little spot now that you can look over,

[00:40:01] we can put up a grandstand, like makeshift little bleachers. Well,

[00:40:05] if I had my family and all my friends, then that would be four people. Yeah, you all here.

[00:40:13] So, put me down for two. Yeah. Yeah, that'd be sick. That would be a lot more pressure. Oh,

[00:40:21] yeah, I know. Just imagine, imagine a third in all three. Yeah, I can imagine that,

[00:40:26] I feel like that's what you're saying. I can't imagine it. No, I bet you'll slay costume. I

[00:40:31] am. That's going to be the only... it's just like the Christmas special, I only ever have one that I

[00:40:34] just kill at, and then Nate wins everything else. But now it's Rachel or Katie. Now it's Rachel. I

[00:40:41] think... how does this go? What order do we do them in? Pleasure first? I think pleasure last.

[00:40:47] Not costume, right? Do we do halter first, just for the grooming aspect? Is this all one day?

[00:40:55] I feel like pleasure is the main event, though, right? So, you have to show your three classes,

[00:40:59] and then go get your horse ready with costume and all that. Yeah. Or do we want the win pictures to

[00:41:09] be in costume? We could always change. The win pictures would also be the next thing. Or do

[00:41:14] we do costume... is costume the first thing we do, and then be like, okay, that was fun,

[00:41:21] now time for the real horse show? You know what I'm saying? Also something that could be

[00:41:24] considered, you know? I don't know, this could be an all-day thing. Obviously, I feel like,

[00:41:28] with that, at least there's no rush to throw something on. We don't start this at 3:00 p.m.

[00:41:35] We dedicate... this is the horse show day, this is a thing, we all come down here and

[00:41:41] have a little biscuits-and-eggs situation. I do think behind the scenes should be, obviously,

[00:41:47] under your supervision, but I think for halter, they groom their own horses. Oh, that should be

[00:41:54] part of it. Yeah, I think they should groom their own horses, they should put the hoof black on,

[00:41:58] they should put their tail in, that should be part of the halter. It gives me anxiety. I mean,

[00:42:03] you can make part of the judging... maybe the judge who judges halter watches them groom.

[00:42:09] Exactly. And you can just be like, if you see this is about to be a catastrophic failure,

[00:42:13] you can just place a soft hand on our shoulders. I mean, I'm sure it wouldn't be a catastroph—

[00:42:20] Like, the halter lesson that they have is grooming, and how to set them up, you know? I like

[00:42:29] that. So, maybe, and all this has to be filmed now, all the lessons have to be filmed. This

[00:42:35] all has to be... it's got to be costume first. So, if we do costume first, and then we all take off,

[00:42:43] maybe go do... just for the sake of grooming, so there aren't sweat marks and all the things, we do

[00:42:50] halter, and then it'll give horses, like Kennedy, time to come down from having a costume, something

[00:42:59] on her head. That's going to be a tough one for you, figuring out the costume situation. Yeah, I

[00:43:06] think I'm just going to, right off the bat... what are some ideas crossing your head? So, I'm really

[00:43:11] skilled with EVA foam, and I think there were some people that followed me on Facebook who commented

[00:43:15] on the last plague doctor mask that I did. So, immediately my mind goes there, and I have all

[00:43:20] kinds of sculpting tools and stuff like that. So, probably some sort of either plated armor,

[00:43:25] or fish scales, or something like that, that's not heavy on her, or the horse, because it's

[00:43:30] just foam, but it looks real. Did I ever tell you that, as a kid, we had, in social studies class,

[00:43:38] a video project, and this was back when you had to do it on a camcorder? And so, we had a video

[00:43:44] project, and I did a video project on jousting, and me and another girl did this project together

[00:43:50] on my little PoA pony, who was 25 years old at the time. And we did cardboard cutout armor that

[00:43:57] we spray-painted gold, and we made our own armor, and we did a ground sword fight. We jousted, but

[00:44:08] we used the same pony, so my mom would get angles from one of us coming from this way, and then one

[00:44:13] of us coming from the other way, and then, from the ground, we'd hit each other and be like,

[00:44:18] that's so good. And we also dressed up as the women in the crowd on the sidelines. And so, then

[00:44:25] we were... that would be funny now, why are we not doing this? That would be funny right now if he

[00:44:30] did that. We were in Renaissance-y dresses on the sidelines, and we'd be like... yeah, that would

[00:44:39] be so funny if you did that. I was like 11. Was that... was that YouTube time? Because when I did

[00:44:45] that, it was Vimeo time. Let's... that's password protected, let's do that. Recreate it, let's just

[00:44:51] make another one, we'll just recreate it. I think you kind of should. I think you kind of should

[00:44:58] the perfect horse for that, too. Yeah, and I know that's the vibe. That's why I was

[00:45:02] hoping I would need to find that tape for it to make sense. Yeah, let's just throw it... let's

[00:45:09] just see what happens, let's just throw it out there like a usual vlog and see what happens. I

[00:45:12] feel like we make this little movie, and then your tape plays in the ending credits. That's

[00:45:18] like the credit scene, like the home videos from when they were younger, after the movie.

[00:45:24] Because I don't know why I always saddled myself with the most ornate, elaborate projects. Yeah,

[00:45:33] we did another video project, I don't know why, I was like, mom, edit this for me, I don't know

[00:45:39] how to do that, you know. And so, we made one, it's like... I think this one I was also in,

[00:45:46] like, seventh grade, something like that, and we had to sell an item, so we had to create an

[00:45:52] item and sell it, and make a commercial for it. So, I made a spray called Goat Be Gone,

[00:45:57] and it was just water, but we put in there that it was pheromones from mountain lions and emus,

[00:46:05] we made this whatever mountain lion and emu... yeah. And so, we had a little pygmy goat named

[00:46:11] Buddy, and he would headbutt everybody and get into stuff the whole time, he was really fat,

[00:46:16] and so, in the video, we'd spray him with it and he'd run away. But we made this Goat Be Gone,

[00:46:29] and I got all the ladies that boarded at our barn at the time, because we had like 20 boarders,

[00:46:33] to sing in it. Dude, your negotiating power in the sixth and seventh grade just walked in. I was

[00:46:39] like, hey guys, first off, everybody off set, second off, I've got a game plan for the day,

[00:46:45] I need you all ready for the choir. Oh, yeah. One of them let me put the goat in her jeep,

[00:46:50] we put the goat in her jeep and sprayed it, and he jumped out of it, and it was really funny. Dude,

[00:46:55] that's great, that's fantastic, I think we should recreate all that. I feel like you probably had

[00:46:58] a great group of boarders at that time, for them all to be like, sure. They'd all been there since

[00:47:02] I was little, so I was like the kid, I was their kid. That's a big ask. Okay, I need y'all to sing

[00:47:07] this jingle. I think what we should do is just replace one of our weekly videos with a skit,

[00:47:16] like, every Saturday it's a new skit. Will you be involved in skits? And then

[00:47:22] we're... that way. And anyway, you like that idea.

[00:47:27] The switch-up was crazy. Crazy. You should do it. It was genuine laughter, and then genuine fear.

[00:47:35] Well, we already had, I think, some ideas about... I don't mind, at horse shows, if we just randomly

[00:47:42] break out into a scene. Yeah, because, like, at the last horse show, we talked about my necklace

[00:47:48] tearing. What if, in the middle of these horse show videos, it just fades to black, and all of

[00:47:54] a sudden there's like an antique screen over the film, and we sound like, you know, transatlantic

[00:48:01] accents, and then all of a sudden it's like we're in the '40s, and yes, we have a dramatic scene,

[00:48:06] 10%. The only thing that it wouldn't work is the clothes. Oh, no, we're at a horse show

[00:48:15] in the '40s. Okay, it works, it works. We're back. Yeah. Yeah, it's black and white. It's,

[00:48:23] you know... yeah, noir, we're solving a mystery. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway... see, this is what happens,

[00:48:31] Stephanie, I see now, do you see now the ADHD of this conversation? But, first off, isn't it great?

[00:48:37] What an idea. And I think we really fleshed it out really well, and I think we've covered all

[00:48:41] bases. I can't think of anything that's... we got to figure out the judge, figure out the judges.

[00:48:49] I think that's the only opening, commentators, because that's the thing, I can be a commentator,

[00:48:54] but I think you're on to something, we need someone on the ground. Judges, commentator,

[00:48:58] reporter, food truck. What if you had it like The Voice style, or like American Idol, three judges

[00:49:05] just sitting in chairs? Oh, that would be kind of cool, like that, and then they just... yep, yep,

[00:49:12] just a random thought. It's hard finding actual horse judges that will chit-chat. Well, they don't

[00:49:21] all have to be judges, though, I want it to be... they could just be very competent. If I'm getting

[00:49:28] a buckle, I want a real judge. But there are different levels of being a judge, there's your

[00:49:34] open show... I think I could judge this one thing, and I'm not a professional. If you're a 4-H judge,

[00:49:39] you're good enough for me. Yeah, that's good. Exactly. I could get Ariel Haron, who is the...

[00:49:46] you know, Bald... oh, yeah, she's the head coach of MTSU, or Buds, I could get her. I could get,

[00:49:54] I'm sure I could get Taft. Maybe I have too much confidence. I don't know, after that

[00:50:00] whole thing you just said about those videos, I feel like you just have that way with people. Oh,

[00:50:07] you wouldn't believe the projects. I bet I would. Built a whole rifle one weekend. I told my dad,

[00:50:13] on a Friday night, or a Saturday night, I said, on Monday I've got to show up to school with a

[00:50:18] whole musket that we built, and it takes two weeks to build because of certain things. And he said,

[00:50:23] hm. Turns out you can't take it to school, it's a weapon. So, I had bought the kit,

[00:50:31] we did it all in one night. This is dishonest, but we did it all because you had to take pictures,

[00:50:38] there was no video, this was before they could fact-check a whole lot. And we took pictures of me

[00:50:47] doing stuff, building this gun, all in different clothes, all in one night. Great, changed my hair,

[00:50:55] changed clothes, all in one night, I got a hundred anyway. Oh, that's great. Well, now they're

[00:51:00] going to... dude, honestly, that struck... I'm so sorry, Dr. Higwood. Anyway, but that's great,

[00:51:04] though. Dude, social studies was such a goated subject. Goated. I've never had a bad social

[00:51:10] studies teacher, I've been to a lot of schools, I moved around a lot, but social studies is a goated

[00:51:15] subject. It's like... I moved around a lot, had a bad childhood, anyway, great childhood, that was

[00:51:22] just... it was the way you said it, it was like... yeah, just, anyway. We're at an hour, by the way,

[00:51:29] I'm excited. Oh my god. Okay, I'm excited about the... quick, without the... anyway, I'm out of...

[00:51:37] Trevor, roll the ball. Okay, we've committed to this horse show. I still don't love... I got to

[00:51:46] figure out something to put on the buckle, I'm still not sold on Running Springs Versatility,

[00:51:50] I think there's something else here, I think there's something else. We got to find judges. I

[00:51:56] think we have at least, what is it now, plenty of time, three and a half months. Yeah. So, I think,

[00:52:02] over that course of time, we didn't also settle how many lessons you get. I think one halter and

[00:52:09] grooming lesson should suffice, and then just a couple rides, or we can get together once

[00:52:15] a month over the next three months. What if it's a group lesson? What if you get... well,

[00:52:21] I don't want to give Rachel too many. They do need to learn how to ride in traffic, so they do need

[00:52:24] to have one group lesson. Yeah. Yeah, we can have something once each month, something different,

[00:52:29] you know? I think maybe a day for halter, a day for this, and then a group lesson. I think the

[00:52:34] halter one could be group. Yeah, easily. And that's something you'll have to know,

[00:52:39] how to have your horse around other horses. And I think the western pleasure, you should have an

[00:52:43] individual lesson and then a group lesson, because part of the issue is maneuvering around horses,

[00:52:50] like, that arena's big, but, just like small fries, they're going to be in a little cluster,

[00:52:56] even though their arena's huge. Hopefully we could just spread them apart, though. You never know.

[00:53:02] You think? Well, I like mine to move a little more forward, so I'll probably catch everybody. Well,

[00:53:08] you know, Kennedy, she is a little forward horse, except when it comes to the walk. You know,

[00:53:12] Kennedy, she does like to... she gets, she catches the group, she does get going, she has to... like,

[00:53:19] being left, I'll just move her to the inside, if she can go, if she's safe on the inside. Now,

[00:53:25] here's where it gets... and this is what Aaron's been working on with her, you need to make sure

[00:53:30] that when you do take that corner, that you completely take that corner, because Katie's

[00:53:34] known for backing off the corner. Completely. Just don't use the corner. Just kidding. Okay. So,

[00:53:43] just so y'all know, we're knowledgeable. This is going to be either really good or horrible. So,

[00:53:51] either way, you're getting a buckle. Either way, we're getting a buckle, baby. Let's go.

[00:53:55] Top three. Oh my god. I guess stay tuned for the first installments of the lesson videos,

[00:54:02] and let us know if you have any ideas for this, because we're in the beginning stages. We can

[00:54:07] add things. Let me know. And thank you, Stephanie, for vibing with us today. Yeah,

[00:54:12] thank you. You're welcome. You're welcome. All right, see you on the next one.