Welcome to Close it now, an H Vac sales training podcast with Sam Wakefield.
Speaker AHere we'll build your reputation in residential H Vac sales to be the expert influencer in your market.
Speaker AYou'll get insight into the top minds in the industry as they share their skills and hacks to help you on your journey.
Speaker AThis podcast isn't just about selling more, it's about understanding your customers needs and building efficiencies behind the scenes so you can sell more but work less while being top of mind when people think H Vac.
Speaker ANow let's get started with your host of the Close it now podcast.
Speaker AThis is Sam Wakefield.
Speaker BHey, hey, hey.
Speaker BWelcome back to the Close it now podcast.
Speaker BSam Wakefield here.
Speaker BToday we are going to have some fun.
Speaker BThis is a really cool topic because at the end of the day, if we're not having fun doing this, this is one of the most fun professions you could possibly have.
Speaker BGetting to meet a million different people.
Speaker BYou're in all kind of houses.
Speaker BYou have to have some element to do sales in the H Vac industry, residential sales.
Speaker BIf you're like me, and I know you are because this is what you're doing, you have to like people, you have to like people.
Speaker BWatch.
Speaker BYou have to like you really enjoy observing people and learning about people, learning about the different personality traits of people, how people live their belief systems, how they run their lives.
Speaker BI love when I can go into a house and learn something new about maybe a different culture that I've never experienced or don't know about.
Speaker BMaybe, who knows, maybe about religion, maybe about something.
Speaker BThe cool thing is if you build rapport properly, there really is no such thing as a taboo topic.
Speaker BSomething you can't talk about.
Speaker BSo this is going to be a fun topic today.
Speaker BBut more importantly, it's a close.
Speaker BI'm going to teach you a new close today.
Speaker BHow a closing technique to get people past.
Speaker BWe got to talk about it.
Speaker BWhen they say, hey, we're going to have to talk about this.
Speaker BWhat do we do?
Speaker BWell, today we're going to talk about exactly what to do.
Speaker BThat's also a lot of fun.
Speaker BThat'll get you past that.
Speaker BGet a close for you because we want to make a sale, right?
Speaker BSo that's the topic today.
Speaker BWe're going to talk about that.
Speaker BIt's going to be great, so stick around.
Speaker BAlso, if you haven't check in to go to close it now.net and super quick plug, you got to check out our coaching.
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Speaker BYou want to be the one that can drink the coffee.
Speaker BYou don't want to walk into the sales meeting.
Speaker BYou don't want them saying put the coffee down.
Speaker BCoffee's for closers.
Speaker BYou want them to say, here, have another pot.
Speaker BBecause you're the one carrying the team.
Speaker BIf you want to rise to the top, be the number one person in your organization, there's no reason that you can't.
Speaker BBut you've got to learn the right techniques, you've got to learn the right skills, you got to learn the right system.
Speaker BSo check into the high performance coaching.
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Speaker BWill absolutely get you set up and get you rocking and rolling.
Speaker BThe cool part is it's so affordable, it's literally less than the commission on one great sale.
Speaker BSo it's awesome.
Speaker BIt's a great program.
Speaker BPeople are seeing wild results from it.
Speaker BCool story.
Speaker BSomeone who never sold anything about single stage, very first week of doing one on one coaching sold a top of the line variable speed system from the first week from one conversation.
Speaker BAnd that's the kind of results we get.
Speaker BSo let's move into this week's topic.
Speaker BThis week's topic is another closing technique for we've got to talk about it now this is very specific.
Speaker BWhen this one comes up, all the different closing techniques and the closing skills, all the methods of closing.
Speaker BYou know, we've talked about the ping pong close in the past.
Speaker BGo back and listen to that episode.
Speaker BIn that episode, I also cover how to use the porch light clothes effectively because both of those are tied together for the same scenario.
Speaker BThe same scenario, same situation.
Speaker BBut in this one because people respond differently.
Speaker BSo let's set some context for how people communicate.
Speaker BYour job when you go into the house is to look, listen and learn.
Speaker BYou've got to look, listen and learn.
Speaker BAnd by that I mean be observant.
Speaker BBe observant of the surroundings.
Speaker BIt's amazing how much you can learn.
Speaker BEvery single time I go into a house and I see a bookcase, I always glance at the books on the bookcase.
Speaker BYou can learn what type of person you're communicating with by books on a bookcase.
Speaker BYou can learn what type of person you're dealing with and how they communicate and how best to communicate back to them if you just pay attention.
Speaker BSo what are some things we're looking for?
Speaker BWhen somebody uses words, if you find out if they're much more visual, they like to look at things.
Speaker BThey like pictures, they like drawings, they like examples.
Speaker BThey'll ask you, what does it look like?
Speaker BWhat does the air conditioner look like?
Speaker BIf they want to see all of these things, they actually want to see visuals communicate with that type of language.
Speaker BSo that's when you tell them, okay, would you mind if I show you this?
Speaker BThat way you know that they are going to receive it in the way that they're communicating now.
Speaker BIf you get there and somebody is asking about noise levels, that sound is important to them, and then they say things like, I've never heard that, or that's when you start to communicate using language surrounding words like hearing and sound.
Speaker BYou start talking about, of course, how quiet the new system is going to be.
Speaker BYou talk about the things you can do to quiet the whole house down, Things with the doctor, whatever it is.
Speaker BBut more importantly, when you're communicating and just asking questions, instead of saying, would you like to see how you then start to communicate with.
Speaker BWould you like to hear how this will help you with this problem?
Speaker BHave you ever heard about the different levels of equipment that are available instead of have you ever seen the different levels of equipment that are available?
Speaker BIs this making sense to you?
Speaker BPay attention to how people communicate.
Speaker BAnd once you hear how they communicate, once you see how they communicate, reflect that back to them.
Speaker BThis may seem like a very small thing, but I guarantee you this is next level sales right here.
Speaker BThis is an example of some of the things that we really dial in with the high performance coaching.
Speaker BAnd we work together on it, of course.
Speaker BBut when you can start to recognize these little keys, it will unlock their instant rapport and trust with you faster than any amount of talking about golf or talking about their car, anything you could possibly ever do.
Speaker BAnd more importantly, it doesn't derail from the track that you're on because you enter the house, you're on one end of the track, it's like a train going down the track.
Speaker BAnd at the other end of the track is the cell.
Speaker BIt's closing the deal when you start having conversations about duck hunting or saving the whales in yes, those are awesome conversations, but it's not a time or place for it.
Speaker BSo when you start talking about the price of tea in China, it doesn't matter.
Speaker BThen you are derailing from the track that you're on and you're getting derailed off of the sale.
Speaker BThis is how to instantly build rapport along the way on a subconscious level, which is much, much deeper than anything you can ever possibly do, to try to artificially fabricate rapport.
Speaker BBecause our job is to be friendly, not to be their friend.
Speaker BWhen you go to the doctor, they don't expect you to take them out to lunch the next week.
Speaker BYou're not going to talk about all this other stuff.
Speaker BYes, they'll be friendly, but they're professionals.
Speaker BThey have a mission.
Speaker BYou have a mission.
Speaker BWhen you're in the home, you are a professional.
Speaker BYou're taking them down a very set course with a known destination at the end.
Speaker BIt's not a mystery.
Speaker BWe're not making this up, we're not winging it.
Speaker BI'm a professional.
Speaker BAnd that's the impression that you give to them.
Speaker BAnd we cross that rapport barrier so fast by communicating how we see and hear them communicate.
Speaker BSo when they say, those I need to see, they start asking about pictures.
Speaker BYou start using the words, have you seen this?
Speaker BMay I show you what this looks like?
Speaker BWhen they want to know about sound levels and they just, in their conversation there, have you ever heard that?
Speaker BThat's when you start using that type of language.
Speaker BAsk about hearing.
Speaker BHave you ever heard that?
Speaker BOr would you like to hear about the different models?
Speaker BWould you like to hear about how we can solve this problem for you?
Speaker BAnd so it's just such a key.
Speaker BSo that was a little bit of a sidetrack from where we are headed with this close, but it's so much fun.
Speaker BAnd this is really where the next level sales comes in.
Speaker BThis is the inner game.
Speaker BThis is why when I walk into a house and all my friends that are top level comfort consultants, that are crushing it, people doing 2, 3, 4, $5 million a year, those kind of numbers, these are the things we talk about when we get together.
Speaker BWe don't talk about, well, how do you present this?
Speaker BThe fun stuff is when you've learned your system and you get past the basics, man, and then you can start paying attention to, okay, game on.
Speaker BThis is the chess match.
Speaker BThis is the psychology that is just a blast to play in this arena and just learn what makes people tick, what makes them think, what makes them operate.
Speaker BAnd when you can crack that code, man, that's when this whole H vac sales thing just Turns into fun.
Speaker BAnd that is where we're going with this, recording fun.
Speaker BBecause if you're not having fun doing this, you've got to find something else to do, because that energy will come across every single day.
Speaker BPeople want to work.
Speaker BIt may be a bad situation that you walk into.
Speaker BPeople may be upset at the situation, but they're never upset at you.
Speaker BIf they come across as being mad or angry at you, it's displaced anger because they're mad at the situation.
Speaker BI.
Speaker BA lot of times people are mad that they let this type of situation come up and they'll tell you every single time, man, we knew this was coming.
Speaker BWe just failed to do anything about it.
Speaker BVery, very seldom is it a total shock that they didn't expect.
Speaker BSo they're mad at the situation.
Speaker BSo what can we do?
Speaker BWe've got to change their energy.
Speaker BWe've got to get them out of the place of anger.
Speaker BPeople who purchase out of a place of anger, a lot of times don't make good decisions.
Speaker BYou'll also find that they're very hesitant to make decisions.
Speaker BIf they're still functioning in that place of anger.
Speaker BIf they're functioning out of that place of.
Speaker BThey're just mad.
Speaker BThey're mad at the situation, they're mad at the world right now.
Speaker BIt's going to cost them money, all this stuff.
Speaker BWe've got to get them past that.
Speaker BHow do we do that without being some weirdo comedian who comes in and starts cracking corny jokes?
Speaker BBecause absolutely do not do that.
Speaker BDo not go in and start cracking corny jokes.
Speaker BThat is one of the very worst things that you could possibly do in a home, is go in and start telling dirty jokes or bad jokes or corny jokes or any kind of jokes.
Speaker BDon't tell jokes in the house.
Speaker BBut we can bring fun into the house.
Speaker BWe can by one, by our attitude.
Speaker BWe enter the world in the place that they're at, with the level of seriousness of, listen, we don't take this lightly.
Speaker BThis is a very serious matter for us.
Speaker BBut through the course of the conversation, bring some levity into it.
Speaker BBring some fun, joy and laughter into the conversation.
Speaker BBecause increase their level from anger and being mad into lightening up a little bit.
Speaker BSo what is this close that I keep referring to this?
Speaker BI like to call the pink earmuff clothes.
Speaker BThe pink earmuff clothes.
Speaker BSo context is you've got two decision makers at the table and they're both sitting there.
Speaker BAnd when you hear these words, this is when you turn the magic light switch on.
Speaker BYou hear these words.
Speaker BThey say, we need to talk about it.
Speaker BThis is not a think about it conversation.
Speaker BSome people need to think about it, but this is when someone uses the word talk.
Speaker BWe've got to talk about it.
Speaker BNow.
Speaker BI want to caution you, and this is something that most salespeople fall into this trap.
Speaker BDo not fall into the trap of falsely assuming that when someone says, I need to think about it, I want to talk about it, any of those kind of things, they mean it needs to be overnight and go to another day.
Speaker BBecause if you fall into that trap, what happens is you normally say something like.
Speaker BAnd raise your hand if you've ever heard this.
Speaker BOkay, great.
Speaker BWhen would be a good time to follow up with you?
Speaker BTuesday?
Speaker BThursday?
Speaker BTomorrow?
Speaker BThis next week.
Speaker BSo what you're doing, you're totally taking the pressure off for one.
Speaker BYou're basically conceding that they're not going to make a buying decision.
Speaker BRight now.
Speaker BYou're just backing up.
Speaker BYou're shriveling up and backing away and saying, I give up, you've won, you've bested me.
Speaker BI guess I'm not a good salesperson.
Speaker BI'll just go and follow you up like a used car salesperson for the next two, three, five weeks, six months, whatever.
Speaker BAnd you can keep ghosting me and not responding to my text message and not picking up the phone when I call and not responding to my emails until I just give up.
Speaker BIt's basically what you're saying when they say, well, I want to talk about it or I want to think about it.
Speaker BWhen you say, okay, well, when can I follow up next?
Speaker BThat is the worst possible thing you can do.
Speaker BStop it.
Speaker BStop it right now.
Speaker BBecause here's the thing, most of the time we assume that it means a lot of time to think about it or talk about it, but that's not true.
Speaker BThey don't need that much time.
Speaker BPeople can figure it out right away.
Speaker BThey can think about it.
Speaker BPeople think quickly.
Speaker BEven slow thinkers can decide pretty quickly.
Speaker BSo when someone specifically says, we need to talk about it, how fun is it if you say, okay, no problem, I come prepared for that.
Speaker BAnd you reach down into your bag and you pull out if you've ever seen those like super heavy duty earmuffs for like pilots or like a shooting range or the super.
Speaker BThe like hard plastic heavy duty headphones that you can't hear anything out of, but they're bright pink and you say, okay, no problem, I come prepared for that.
Speaker BAnd you put them on your head, you put them over your Ear before you put them on.
Speaker BYou say, okay, you guys go ahead and talk about it.
Speaker BI won't be able to hear you.
Speaker BI'll just put these on and just wave at me once you've talked about it.
Speaker BAnd you sit there and you right at the kitchen table, you don't move.
Speaker BYou put these headphones on your head and you just start, you know, make notes on your paper, shuffle your papers and say, okay, go ahead, y' all talk about it, then let them talk about it.
Speaker BThat is how to be memorable.
Speaker BThat is how to absolutely be memorable.
Speaker BIn the house, for one.
Speaker BBecause I guarantee you, I guarantee you, there is no one else unless they're listening to this podcast right now.
Speaker BThere's no one else in your town or your city or your province or probably even your state that's doing this.
Speaker BUnless you're in my state, of course.
Speaker BBecause this is how to be memorable.
Speaker BThis is how to do something different.
Speaker BI mean, how many times does.
Speaker BWhen we really back up and we look at our industry, it is the most boring, dang industry on the planet.
Speaker BEverybody does the same thing.
Speaker BEverybody talks about the same thing.
Speaker BSure, there's a level of excellence that we work on that we're higher than a lot of the companies out there.
Speaker BBut at the same time, you get all of the best companies in town in the same room.
Speaker BWe're doing the same dang thing.
Speaker BHow can we do something different?
Speaker BHow can we break the mold?
Speaker BHow can we make an impression?
Speaker BHow can we shake things up to the way that people are going to want to do business with you?
Speaker BBecause it's business done differently?
Speaker BHow do we do that?
Speaker BWell, this is one simple, fun way to do it.
Speaker BAll it takes is finding the right headphones.
Speaker BThey don't have to be pink.
Speaker BThey can be purple.
Speaker BThey could be blue.
Speaker BDon't make them black.
Speaker BMake them a bright color.
Speaker BMake them some crazy color to match your company logo.
Speaker BIt doesn't matter.
Speaker BFind some.
Speaker BDo this.
Speaker BThis will be funny.
Speaker BIt will be fun, but it will also be memorable.
Speaker BAnd you know what?
Speaker BIt's amazing what happens.
Speaker BPeople, they say, okay, well, we will.
Speaker BSo they talk about it, and a couple minutes later, they wave at you or tap you on the shoulder because you really can't hear them.
Speaker BBecause those are really good headphones.
Speaker BAnd they've made a decision.
Speaker BThey picked one.
Speaker BIt's so cool.
Speaker BAnd honestly, I feel like this is more than a 1 percenter, but it's a big one.
Speaker BHow can we be different in the marketplace?
Speaker BOur industry is so stagnant.
Speaker BWhen it comes to sales.
Speaker BAnd it's the most boring thing in the world right now in all of the marketplace.
Speaker BHow can we be different?
Speaker BLet's change the way that we do business.
Speaker BEmail me samoseitnow.net, go to closeitnow.net, email me.
Speaker BIf you have create crazy ideas, let me know.
Speaker BLet's turn it into a podcast and we can raise the level of everyone.
Speaker BThis is such a fun conversation.
Speaker BLet's change the face of our industry and do something different.
Speaker BThis is a message to all of you out there who are tired of being boring.
Speaker BYou're tired of doing the same old thing and getting the same old results.
Speaker BLet's do something different so we can get crazy different results.
Speaker BSo that is my message today.
Speaker BGo out there, do the crazy thing.
Speaker BDo the wild thing.
Speaker BDo the different thing.
Speaker BMake an impression.
Speaker BBecause that's how people will remember you.
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