Welcome to Hip Hop Movie Club,
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the show that harmonizes the rhythm of hip
hop with the magic of movies.
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We're thrilled to put all that together
to vibe on these films for you.
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I'm DynoWright, podcaster,
filmmaker, long time Hip-Hop
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fan, and I was hyped to attend our guests
event a couple weeks ago.
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On the history of sampling.
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JB Eighties and nineties
Nostalgia junkie, longtime hip hop fan
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and I was just recently turned on
to Indian rapper Brodha V
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by a coworker who lives in Noida, India.
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Yo, I'm BooGie, a deejay, long time
hip hop fan.
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And at the time of this recording,
I'm so hype for tomorrow night's
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in-person event.
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We're doing a in-person screening
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of the classic film
Juice, followed by a talkback with us.
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You around, check it out.
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Today we have the special honor
to speak with the co-hosts
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of the Serious Rap Shit podcast,
Philly guys John Morrison and Josh Leidy.
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(Bring it, c’mon!)
Josh joined Raj Haldar, a.k.a.
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rapper Lush Life on a pilgrimage
back to his family's homeland of India
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to document the hip hop culture
throughout the nation there.
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Their result:
an engrossing documentary to share
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with the world
called Another Word for Paradise.
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In this episode, we'll answer the question
Why is India one of the next
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big spots for hip hop?
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(Bring it! C’mon!) All right.
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Welcome, guys.
Thank you for joining us today.
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Appreciate you.
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Yeah, thank you for having us. Of course.
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So first question I have and
you guys can take turns or what have you.
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How did this trip to India come about?
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Like,
who had the idea for the documentary?
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Was it Raj's idea? Lush Life.
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Are you guys tight with him?
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You want to kick it off?
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Josh or John You wanna go?
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Either one, doesn’t matter.
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You can go, bro. So, yeah.
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Lush Life.
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Raj is a very good friend of ours.
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It's funny because Josh and
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I were actually fans of his music
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before we became friends, and
he was a really big fan of our podcast.
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So he got booked to do a tour in India.
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He'd never performed there.
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His parents are from India,
and he approached us with this idea
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like, Yo,
Josh can fill in some more details here.
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But basically, Raj approached us like, Yo,
why don't we do a tour documentary?
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Why, When I go over here to India to
to perform these series of concerts?
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Yeah,
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basically he was doing a set of shows
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for there was there's a beer company
out of India called Bira,
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and they were doing an April Fools fest.
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So like, they were doing a set of tour
stops that led up to this big
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festival on April 1st.
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And so basically, he he approached us
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middle of February
or something of 2018 and was like, hey,
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literally the text was like, Hey,
do you guys want to go do
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a documentary in India
and go shoot a documentary in India?
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And we were like,
No, like, no, I have no interest in it.
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Doesn't make sense. I get those texts
all the time, so annoying!
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But mind you,
we had not made films before.
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Right?
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We've never done anything like this.
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We, we, we were only like we had done
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we had only been doing the podcast
for a little over a year.
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We started toward the end of 2016.
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So it was February of:
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when we got asked and I,
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we were like,
Yeah, let's let's, let's do it.
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And so we were like in the
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we started like doing like a shit
ton of research and like, I'd be like
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watching like we didn't know
if we were going to be shooting it.
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Like we had no idea of any, like.
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We just were like,
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first of all, like,
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who doesn’t say yes to that,
that opportunity, right?
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Like, I've never been.
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I've never been anywhere.
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Like,
the furthest I've been is Puerto Rico.
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So I've like, I've never been
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any where,
like really outside of the United States.
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So there was absolutely nothing in me
that was like,
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yeah, no, I don't want to do that.
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Like, it was like. I pass.
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I didn't
Have a passport, We didn't have passports.
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In all fairness, like I had a passport.
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Mine was expired though.
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I had no, but I was like,
what was I going, I get it.
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I mean, I was a hooligan from Philly,
so I, I had really we were.
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So that was February.
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We left the trip left at the end of March.
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So like, we had like a like six weeks
essentially to, like,
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get the stuff prepared.
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Nowadays
you can't get a passport that quick
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because we travel, it's like three month
minimum.
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We've got to pay it at Crazy Premium.
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You guys maybe.
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But we had, we were very lucky.
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Yeah.
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That the beer company
was like footing the bill for all of this.
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So they, like, rushed our visas
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and rushed our, like passports.
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They were able to like,
put a rush on things.
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Hired a film crew, one ground
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in India
to tour around and shoot this whole thing.
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Yeah, because it would have been us
with, like, camcorders of.
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Yeah, like, figure it out.
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They had a film crew that we met with
when we landed.
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We met.
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Well, so then to, like, lead up to
the process, do you want to start telling.
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Yeah, I can jump in here.
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So we get the text from Raj,
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we sit down and we talk about it
and we're like, Yeah, let's do it.
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Let's go shoot a documentary in India.
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This is February.
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I'm also I start
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feeling like a little sick,
like I got the flu
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and I'm like, Man,
this flu, it won't like, shake me.
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Flu turns into, like, a headache.
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It's like a persistent headache.
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And I'm like, Man, this headache is like,
really, like, beat me down.
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Even if you look at my passport photo
I won’t show you...
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But if you look at.
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My photo, I look like dead in the eyes
because I was like, sick as a dog
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trying to get this passport
so we can go to India.
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So maybe two weeks, I think before we were
supposed to be on a plane.
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I'm sitting in my house
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and my fiancee is like looking at me
and she's like, yo,
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she's like, talk to me.
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Like, I'm like, we wanna talk about
she's like tell me
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about like a TV show
that you that you like.
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And mind you,
this is after a couple weeks of like,
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a persistent headache, Like, I'm like,
I went to emergency.
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They didn't do anything.
Sent me back home.
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So we're sitting in the house
and she's looking at me.
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She asks me to to just talk to her.
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So I'm talking.
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I'm like talking about Atlanta
because I think Atlanta season two
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was about to come out. Yeah, Yeah.
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I'm talking about yeah, I'm
talking to her about Atlanta.
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I'm like, Yo,
I'm excited about all of this show.
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And I think that I'm talking to her
like I'm talking with y'all.
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But apparently what was coming out
was gobbledygook.
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So long story short,
I had viral meningitis.
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So now my brain, my spine was inflamed
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and my brain was swollen, essentially. And
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she looks at me, she's
like, we got to go to the hospital now.
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So we are
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I kind of like
make my way down the stairs.
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And then from there
everything gets like real foggy.
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So long story short, I was in the hospital
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swollen brain, collapsed lung,
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hallucinations, weeks of hallucinations.
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Josh was there.
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He remember I was out of my f--king mind.
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Just as you know
what happens with meningitis sometimes.
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And I came to,
like, came out of all of that stuff,
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and I was in the hospital, and my legs
didn't work, so
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Long story short,
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I had to rehab, you know what I'm saying?
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And it's crazy because at one point
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I'm still a little wonky,
like I'm still hallucinating a little bit.
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I'm still a little bit out of it.
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And I remember talking to one of the neuro
doctors, and I'm like, Yo, my man,
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I'm supposed to go to India in a week,
Can I get my shots here?
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And they're looking at me like, you
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ain’t goin’ to no f--king India, You know,
you're not going anywhere.
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So, you know,
long story short, I did end up rehab in
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a lot of the episodes.
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We took a long break.
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Josh had to go to India. I had to rehab.
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But even like, some of those,
like, post break
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episodes, I'm in a wheelchair
while we're recording that.
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You know what I mean?
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It was a long process
to like, relearn how to walk,
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you know, something
I hadn't done since I was a baby.
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I want to learn how to walk.
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It's like it was really like an ordeal.
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And that kept me from going to India.
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So Josh and Raj went, rocked it out,
brought the footage back
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and literally
we were sitting in my mom's living room
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going through footage
and I'm just in a wheelchair.
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Josh got to help me into the bathroom.
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My mom had to bathe me.
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It was it was crazy.
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It was it was absolutely crazy.
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But, you know, it it it ended up
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being the film that it was
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destined to be because all of that stuff,
it happened.
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Yeah.
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So I think one thing people should know
is, like,
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me and John have been friends
for almost 30 years.
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We've known each other
longer than we haven’t. ‘95?
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Yeah, something like that.
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Yeah.
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So we've known each other
for a very long time.
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So me and him have been best friends
for a very long time.
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So March 2nd was the day
he went into the hospital.
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I got a phone call from his
from his fiancee that morning.
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I was just coming off shift.
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I know it was March 2nd
because it was my son's birthday
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and I was taking him to a Sixers game
that night.
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So I remember like that, I know.
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I remember the day
I remember the phone call.
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She called me and she was like, he's
not making sense da-da da-da.
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And I was like,
All right, well, take him to the hospital.
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I'm going to go home and take a nap and
then I'll get up before I go get my son.
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I'll come to the hospital.
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I had no idea how bad that
was going to be and stuff.
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And it was scary.
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It was scary.
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Like obviously with like John's health,
like it was it was bad.
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It was like he said hallucinations.
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Like I in a room talk at all.
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But we're talking about stuff
that's not in the room and stuff.
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So like, it would it was it was crazy.
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And John, at that point, like,
like now I am a like a, you know, a writer
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and I do interviews on a regular now
and stuff at that point you're talking
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six years ago
now, I had never wrote anything.
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I had never asked the question
in an interview.
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We didn't do interviews on the podcast. So
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that was a thing I did.
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John was the journalist.
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John's the one who's the writer.
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He's the one
who's like the brain of the inspiration.
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I'm more of like the the muscle of. ...
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But he's, you know, it was
it was really scary, the idea that,
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like, you know, we're doing something
I've never done before.
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It was a lot more comfortable to do it
with my best friend.
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Like, All right, well,
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it'll be me and him doing it together
so if we look like idiots.
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We look like idiots together.
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Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's crazy.
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So, wait, before we left to go shoot,
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John had got better,
like you said, about a week before,
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like, really started to come around
mentally, everything like that.
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And I still at that point was like,
I don't know if I feel good
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leaving to do this.
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And he's not with me
because, like, we're doing this together.
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This is our thing together.
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We started our
our media group Culture Cypher
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Media together, and like,
this is our thing.
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How can...I can't go by myself?
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I really felt that way.
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I felt really weird about going
without him.
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And I asked him before we left, I was
like, you know, you can testify to this.
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I was like, Yo, is it cool if I go like,
Do you think it's okay?
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And he told me, like, you have to, like,
I got to go.
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Yeah, yeah.
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He was like, I can't go. Like,
what are you not going to go?
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Like, you have to go do
it for us because I can't go.
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And there's
a scene in the in the documentary
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that I feel like really
it was important to me.
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There's a scene
where I'm tagging a wall in Bangalore
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and like it says John and Josh SRS.
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I saw that like, yeah.
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And for me it was important.
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Like I, I he was there with us
through the whole thing,
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you know, and I mean, and like,
it was impossible.
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I couldn't like my phone was like a brick.
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It was a camera essentially in, in India.
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I had no, like I didn’t
have international calling so like
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I was sending emails back and forth
to like family and friends
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of checking on John
through email and stuff
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and like trying to send some stuff
back to them
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and like when I came back,
I had to like when I came back
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he had been released from the hospital
and he was in the rehab at that point.
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And like I came to the rehab
when I got home, like, look,
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like this is like the stuff that we shot.
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But I like sharing
all that information with them.
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And it was really important for me,
like I us that he's he, he was there
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for this like, as much as like
I could make him there for it, you know?
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And I mean.
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That's amazing story.
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Thank goodness
you made the full recovery. And,
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you know, it all turned out as as it did.
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Yeah. Yeah.
And then thanks for sharing that.
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Yeah.
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We're I mean, not to like, spoiling it.
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We're working on a new documentary.
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And then when we went to go shoot
one of the first days to shoot
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the new documentary I had had
I had a couple back surgeries
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a couple of years ago
and on the second back surgery ended up
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getting an infection from it
like bacteria, like a bacterial infection.
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And I had to have an emergency surgery
because I had Klebsiella
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and that shit can like kill you, or like,
paralyze.
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Yeah, Yeah.
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And like,
I've literally said to John, like,
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we really have to, like,
stop making documentaries.
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And we’re like.
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And then have, like, life altering
situations happening every time
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we get ready to start a new movie project.
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This might not be the lane for us.
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Is God talking to us?
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Like, is God saying like,
you guys aren’t supposed to do this?
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I Don't make any movies.
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Yeah, I've got signs in a whole other way.
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But like, this one is really standing out.
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You're really suffering for your art.
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Yeah, right, Right. Yes.
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Yes. Crazy.
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Maybe John had to do a solo.
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Now it was his turn to do the solo voyage.
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Yeah, well, he did.
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He went and shot
while I was in the hospital.
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He went to shoot,
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Shoot stuff while I was in the hospital
like a one thing that I really love is
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and I guess this is comes
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from a situation of like me
and him being friends for so long, right?
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We are
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we we will like.
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Yes. That’s
my brother for real like I like
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I've known him more than half my life.
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Like I've known him more than
I've known him like I haven't known him.
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Right. So for me, it's like, no.
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Like if I'm down, he's
there to take it up.
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If I'm like, That's just how
we're going to always, we’re gonna rock.
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And we're really good at like,
filling in each other's like
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bad spots, like, you know, and I mean,
which I think makes a good team.
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Yeah, definitely.
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So now
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going back to the hip hop
culture in India,
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what what was your biggest takeaway
if you had to just
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condense it into
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small one statement, few words or so,
like what's your biggest takeaway
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that you took from that trip about hip hop
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culture
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Admiration.
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There
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Not as much now, but
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like six years ago when we shot this,
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it was so infantile.
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It was still very small, like to put
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like they didn't have like you didn't
get like hip hop played on the radio.
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They are really
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there wasn't that kind of scene there.
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There it was just starting like, it's a
hip hop night on like a Tuesday, you know?
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And I mean, like it was it's
kind of it was just starting.
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But I admired like
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what they had to learn.
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We interview a rapper in there
Prab Deep in the documentary
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and it's I don't know if it's I don't know
if it me I don't remember
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if it made the documentary.
I don't think it did.
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But he talked to me about
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one of the first
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like exposures to hip hop for him was
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the 8 Mile movie.
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Is crazy to me. Yeah.
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So like they had they had just like,
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just started
really like learning the culture.
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So the culture was still really new,
like dance culture there.
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Like there was the dance culture,
but like the emceeing and like the
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producing beats and all that kind of stuff
is still very, very much in its infancy.
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And so I admired like,
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man, like you guys have.
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So like I,
I'm going to be able to watch this scene
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completely grow from the ground up.
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We there's we talked to Mo
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Joshi in the documentary
and he mentions like,
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you know, and I'm seeing it now is like
because I'm still very much like
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I still have contact
with like the crew and stuff like that
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and follow people from over there
that we interacted with.
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So like, I see now like,
you know, a rapper like Prab Deep
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then has now like his like four records
or five records out
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like,
you know, in the six years and stuff.
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And that was like we had,
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he had just dropped his first record
when we were interviewing.
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He was touring it. So
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he, like
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Mo Joshi in the documentary, says like,
you know,
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a Divine, a Raja Kumari, Prab Deep, like
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they're going to be the rappers
that like the little kids
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that are trying to do it now.
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They're looking up to them.
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And it was really dope to see like a Raja
Kumari
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and a Divine who we didn’t interview,
but he was at
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the April Fools Fest.
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He like, they're signed to Mass Appeal now
and he you know what I mean?
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Like they're going to be the people
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that, like
the younger artists are looking up to.
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And now they're going to continue
to make more of their music.
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And like Mo Joshi’s
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Azadi records that Prab Deep is on
is like ten artists deep now.
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Nice. That's amazing.
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That's cool. Yeah. Yeah.
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And it was like It was their infancy.
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was two when we interviewed them.
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So yeah, it's really like it's,
it's grown so much.
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And that's what I really was like, man.
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Like,
you guys are like going to build your own,
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like real culture
and it's going to be so dope to like,
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we would love to go back and experience
it now.
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Seems so changed. Yeah, yeah.
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That's awesome.
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That's a good segue.
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My next question is like, so you said,
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I want them to see
now they're growing a little bit.
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How do we put that in perspective
in American terms?
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Like are they like in the early nineties
of hip hop, you we've had 50 years.
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If you talk about 73 being the origin,
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they're probably in that range like
all right there.
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Yeah, yeah, probably like early
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early nineties mid-nineties era.
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Like that's
probably what era they're going into.
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But I also think it's
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so different now because of like,
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like their exposure is so different,
right?
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Like the way hip hop traveled when we were
kids is not how hip hop travels now.
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And yeah. Yeah.
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So the harmony,
the homogeneity of like of monoculture
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is so prevalent that I,
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I think they have essentially skipped
a lot of levels, right.
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Because because of the ability to like,
you know, like
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so me and John, when we were kids
we rapped in
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like John made beats, I didn’t but like,
you know what I mean?
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Like we we're part
of the culture, right? So
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if we
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wanted to record, you had to know
somebody who had like a microphone
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and ability to actually record you.
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Now, like any kid
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with a phone can do it,
you know what I mean?
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And that's awesome.
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That's that's great because it gives
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a democracy of like
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availability of just like anybody
can do these kind of things now, right?
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So I think they were able to skip a lot.
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Like if you look at like videos
from artists from India, like they look
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just as good as videos here
because like they have the same ability
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to like shoot and do this stuff where,
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you know, artists like,
especially like in our time
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because like one thing
like, as, as Americans,
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I think it's very easy to just be like,
well, like
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India is like a like one
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one thing like is India as opposed
to, like,
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like with Prab like Prab’s from Mumbai.
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So like,
he has his thing, like his whole style.
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He's Sikh.
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So like, there's, like,
there's a difference to him
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compared to a Divine who's from Delhi and
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it's a different there's just different
culture.
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It's very similar to like,
you know, Chicago, New York or Philly.
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A million people.
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Yeah, Yeah.
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You know, and that's the thing too,
where like, they're,
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they are the numbers of like people
that were listening to hip hop
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then compared to what the numbers are
now, are just astronomical.
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Yeah, it's almost like you wish
you could buy stock in Indian hip hop.
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Like, I know that.
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There's,
there's There's such a market, right?
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Like, there's, like
John says there's a billion people there.
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Like what?
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What you can, the fraction
that you have to hit to like
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do really well
compared to like what our market would be,
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you know what I mean
it is completely different
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and I think there's
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I definitely think there's a
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an aspect that like they were so
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so able to like jump
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like jump levels
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they were able to hit
what was the the Mario shit
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the, the, the world skips or whatever.
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You able to do a lot of that because
of like technology, you know what I mean.
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Yeah. And there's not...
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Yeah. Warp zones. Yeah.
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There's not that in like
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the present day landscape, there's not
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that reliance on labels,
you know what I mean?
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In order to, to distribute music,
even even the,
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the steps that you need to take from,
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you know, an idea to market
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have been like a lot of that stuff's
been cut out.
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You know what I mean?
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You know, I remember
reading The Source magazine and people
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talking about meeting A&R’s on the street,
you know what I'm saying?
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Like an A&R,
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you know,
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showing up at a club or a show
and here to emcee.
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And you got to, you know,
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they got to take that rapper to their boss
and get a demo budget approved.
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And then you got to,
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you know, record the demo
and then you got to get that approved.
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Then you got to do a single deal
and then maybe you do an album deal.
483
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,120
That stuff is not a thing anymore.
484
00:24:54,120 --> 00:24:59,800
Even on major labels,
that that process has been
485
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,880
greatly
486
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:03,960
expediated out of this.
487
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,360
The word I want to say,
but it's sped up that process.
488
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:12,040
So when you're doing it
independently, it's is doubly sped up
489
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,120
because you don't have any,
you know, gatekeepers or anything
490
00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:20,280
you any corporation
that you have to go through right.
491
00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:21,600
So, Josh, you kind of read my mind.
492
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:22,760
Well, I was going to ask next
493
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,600
in the documentary, you went to three main
areas, Bangalore, which was described
494
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,280
as like a Silicon Valley of India, Mumbai,
495
00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:33,240
you talked about with Prab Deep
and then New Delhi.
496
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,840
So you said the styles of hip
hop are different in all areas.
497
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,320
And is that just because there's different
either languages or dialects?
498
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:41,760
I guess, yeah.
499
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,440
There's, I think, over 100 dialects
spoken in India.
500
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,680
I think I could be wrong on that,
or it may be higher.
501
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,640
There's a ton of dialects.
502
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,240
I want to be really respectful
because I'm not like, Yeah,
503
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,720
I'm not like a master, right?
504
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,880
But yeah, so it's just regional, right?
505
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,000
Like there's,
506
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,200
like Bangalore when we So
Bangalore is the first city we went to.
507
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,920
That's the,
the documentary is essentially cut
508
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,960
like just essentially cut the same way
we did the trip.
509
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,120
It's we did we did that.
510
00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:17,880
You know, it's linear. Linear,
I guess. That's right. Right. Yeah.
511
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,200
Yeah. Linear.
512
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,880
So I just basically just because
esthetically I want to cut it
513
00:26:24,120 --> 00:26:27,600
where we were, where different clothes
in different light, different
514
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,720
like I don't know, like for me visually
that would have like threw me off.
515
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,040
The film follows. The trip as it.
516
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,720
Yeah. You filmed it in sequence.
517
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:37,600
Yes. Yeah.
518
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,880
And it's edited a little out.
519
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,200
Like there's a couple of things
that happen in different orders
520
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,840
and stuff like that, but like the
the cities are done the same way.
521
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,840
So Bangalore was the first city we went to
and it's like we were there
522
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,240
and like a Tuesday night and we were like,
Hey, let's like go out,
523
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,040
get drinks and like,
you know, enjoy the night, enjoy the town.
524
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:59,400
And they were like, It's Tuesday in Bangalore. Dude like there's nothing happening.
525
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,200
Like, it is A closed city.
526
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,920
Like this isn’t a party city.
Mumbai is a party city.
527
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,680
You go to Mumbai
there’s like we were at like this.
528
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,080
What's...”God's Plan” had first dropped.
529
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,800
Drake's “God’s Plan”
and we went to some club in Mumbai
530
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,720
that had like sand floors,
531
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,520
like beach, Like it was a beach.
532
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:23,920
It was insane.
533
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,120
Like it was full of like, models.
534
00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:29,040
I have like,
did not belong in this place, but.
535
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,840
Like, leer bar or was that the other?
536
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,840
No, that was not the leer bar.
The leer bar was back. So.
537
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,760
So I will tell this story. Okay.
538
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,440
John brings up the leer bar.
539
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:37,760
Okay.
540
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:42,160
A leer bar is essentially a
is like a version of a strip club.
541
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,160
It's like a sanitized version
of a strip club.
542
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,120
The first night we were there,
we asked the where everything was
543
00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:49,360
and they were like, there is no party.
544
00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:53,280
There's there's a there's a bar down
the street called Rough Riders.
545
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:58,560
And next door
there is a like a diner type thing.
546
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,320
And you can go like, get something to eat.
547
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,240
And they go to there, go there
and they get something to eat.
548
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,080
You get some drinks at the bar.
549
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,000
So we're like all right,
We go down to Rough Riders, we walk.
550
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,320
It was we're walking up.
551
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,520
There's just like a bunch of dudes
hanging outside
552
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,800
and we're like,
What is this place like, this is weird.
553
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,560
We go in and it's dark
554
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,520
and there's just really loud
music and like, we walk in that
555
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:28,680
there's like a dance floor
kind of in the middle of the floor
556
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:33,360
and then like a, like a gate essentially,
like around that floor.
557
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,520
And then there were some seats along there
where you could sit in along the floor.
558
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,680
And then outside the gate
there was like stand up bar tables.
559
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,680
So we just like post up at the bar tables
in in the middle of the floor.
560
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:48,400
There's a bunch of like 20
something year old women
561
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,720
in some of them in saris
and then some of them in
562
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,000
just like nightclub clothes, like
563
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,000
just out on the town
and they're just dancing.
564
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,960
And as you start to, like, coordinate,
565
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:07,760
you go, It's just a bunch of
old men sitting around here,
566
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,400
old men standing around too.
567
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:11,760
Looking and leering.
568
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,080
Yes! It's. So.
569
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,600
As our guide for the trip.
570
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,600
Deepak, he was a dope dude.
571
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,360
Shout out to Deepak. He was
572
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,000
he worked for Bira and he was like,
573
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,120
my God, I think this is a leer bar.
574
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:27,960
And we're like, What's that?
575
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,560
And he's like, It's like a conservative
version of a strip club.
576
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,440
Like older people come in here,
like the older uncles come in here
577
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:39,320
and watch the young girls dance,
and you can tip them like when they come.
578
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,320
You you have to give the security money.
579
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,360
He gives you back money
580
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,000
from the hotel that it was, right?
581
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,400
And it said like Rough Riders Hotel.
582
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,160
Like Rough Riders use only like a hotel
use only or something like that.
583
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,760
But you you get that and then you could
throw that onto the girls and stuff.
584
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,880
And so,
like, we're in there and we're like,
585
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,880
All right, well, if we're here,
we're going to have a good time.
586
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,320
There's nobody touching anybody.
587
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,720
It was a fairly respectful and shit.
588
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,400
So we're just like having a good time.
589
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,480
And girls
kept coming over and looking at me,
590
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:17,040
partially
because tattoos are not huge in India.
591
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,280
Like tattoo culture isn't real big
592
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,320
and big, bushy
beards are not like, really like it.
593
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,640
So the combination was like,
really like weird to them.
594
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,240
Like, where are you from?
595
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,760
Yes, there was
very much that kind of thing.
596
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,720
So we're
597
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,760
like, Wow, this is like a weird vibe
or whatever, But whatever.
598
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,600
We're in India, we're having a good time.
We're going to enjoy it.
599
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,520
We go next door, we go get some food.
600
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:42,680
I see some of the girls
601
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:47,080
who were in the bar like trickling in
with some like with some guys and stuff.
602
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,360
And I'm like, you know, they're out.
603
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,400
Just paying no mind.
604
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,920
The next night, the night you see in the
605
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,920
the first night
you see in the documentary,
606
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,880
we go to the Humming Tree
to do a performance.
607
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,600
Raj performs.
608
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,720
As we're in the green room,
we're like hanging out.
609
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:04,640
We're talking.
610
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,680
The woman who runs, one of the women
who runs the Humming Tree
611
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,360
came back and was like,
What did you guys do?
612
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,840
Like, you know, talking to us like what
you guys do yesterday or whatever.
613
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,280
And we're like,
yesterday was our first day.
614
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,600
We went to Rough Riders and she was like,
You guys went to a whorehouse?
615
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,200
ha ha ha ha And I'm like.
616
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:22,880
ha ha What?
617
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,880
She was like, It's a whorehouse.
618
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,320
And we're like,
Well, no, what are you talking about?
619
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,800
Like, it's though it's the.
620
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:29,840
It’s a leer bar.
621
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,160
Yeah, like. It's a leer bar.
622
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,480
And then, like, all of a sudden, like,
623
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,960
the money that said hotel use only,
you know,
624
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:44,760
that kinda shit, like,
a lot of shit started to, like, make sense
625
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,160
of. So, like, that was the.
626
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,840
First night I was at a whorehouse
627
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:53,600
the first night in India
and had no idea about it.
628
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,400
But it is very much a
629
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,440
it's different from city to city.
630
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,880
Mumbai is very like a
631
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,960
very like party ish.
632
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,000
Very like
633
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,480
the dichotomy of like rich and poor is
634
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,000
wildly on display in Mumbai.
635
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,760
Like you. It's very easy.
636
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:22,080
There was a scene that we cut of
like a Lamborghini
637
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:27,400
that's just like parked next
to like shanty houses and shit.
638
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:28,080
That’s wild.
639
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:32,560
That's where you met the Slum Gods,
the guy that was really
640
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:33,800
teaching the youth.
641
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,440
Akash Dhungar. Yeah. Yeah.
642
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,400
The that was really cool
that these kids have very little means
643
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,680
and they're giving them a source of pride
and confidence is with hip hop.
644
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,120
It’s cool. Yeah.
645
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:52,280
It was my favorite part of the trip,
and I actually tried to get us to not go.
646
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,720
We had met the first night, you see, like
647
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,080
the first the first day we had already met
with a breakdancing crew.
648
00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:58,760
Right.
649
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,760
And we had actually
when we did our research, me and John, me
650
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,760
and John and Raj were doing our research
before the trip.
651
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,800
Slum Gods came up, right, John?
652
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,160
I'm pretty sure we talked about them.
653
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,640
So we had reached out
to make contact with them
654
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,640
because they did tours
through Dharavi as well.
655
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:17,760
Right?
656
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:22,000
And so
657
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,160
when we were getting ready to
658
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,240
go, they were like,
Yo, it's going to be like a two hour ride.
659
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,800
Everything is like,
traffic is insane in India.
660
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,480
You can see it in the documentary.
661
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:36,120
Everywhere you go is like an hour
and change like everywhere.
662
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:41,480
And I was like, I really don't
want to go like, drive to this.
663
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,440
And then we had another shoot to do.
I was very tired.
664
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:45,760
We were ripping and running.
665
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:52,360
I mean, we were up from like the crack
of dawn, shoot all day, perform at night,
666
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:53,600
sleep for
667
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,360
an hour, hop on a plane to the next city.
668
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,720
So it was very like I was just like, Dude,
I was tired, it was hot.
669
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,600
I was like, Man,
I really don't want to go to this.
670
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,000
We already did a break dance crew.
671
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,840
Like, maybe we shouldn't go.
672
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,440
And I forget, I think it was the director
was just like, Yeah, we should go.
673
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,960
We definitely should go see them. Like,
it's going to be cool, I'm telling you.
674
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,200
So we're like, All right, let's go.
675
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,840
And we went and I mean, it was definitely
676
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,400
the best experience we had there.
677
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,680
The the ending of the documentary
678
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:29,800
where Raj is rapping
that was shot with the kids and Dharavi
679
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:34,200
when we shot as we were shooting it,
I remember standing there watching it
680
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,840
and going like, this is going to be
the end of the documentary.
681
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,120
I remember you telling me that.
682
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,600
So and then when we. Way before.
683
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,960
Yes, when we got the footage
684
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,320
and we were we were sitting
685
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,000
in the car
riding to the interview with Himesh
686
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,000
and we were
687
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,800
we were looking at that
and me and Raj were like, this is the end.
688
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,040
This is it. Like this is it.
689
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,680
And that's like just looking at it, going
like, this is it.
690
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,240
And it was one of the things
that was like, that things were falling
691
00:35:05,240 --> 00:35:08,520
in place in my head finally of like,
how the
692
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,120
the film would be built
and that kind of stuff.
693
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,000
You can see like, and like,
I'm sure like if you watched
694
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,800
the documentary
knowing now, like I was unbearably nervous
695
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:23,040
through most of that documentary
of like being on camera, I'm not like,
696
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:27,960
I'm not a person who like to be on camera
or anything like that. So
697
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,440
I, I, I was
698
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,040
very like, like uptight about it.
699
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:39,000
But the going to Dharavi was crazy.
700
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,560
I'm still in contact
701
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,560
with, like, the little girl who's doing,
like, the head spinning there.
702
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:44,920
Okay.
703
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,560
She, we follow each other on IG.
704
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,800
Like in, like now they're out
in like the suburbs of India doing,
705
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:57,680
still doing like the Slum God stuff and
like she still like breakdancing, though
706
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:02,080
all of them are still,
they're still doing that stuff. And
707
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:07,800
you know, that's where they like slum guy,
the Slumdog Millionaire.
708
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,520
Like that's where that's based.
Yeah. Movie. Yeah.
709
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,120
So like that
we talk about it in the documentary.
710
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,320
That's why they're like reclaiming
that in like, you know, they're
711
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,280
the Slum Gods as opposed to there's,
712
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:26,680
you know, one thing
me and John and Raj talked about a lot
713
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,120
was not doing poverty porn.
714
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:34,440
I think it's very easy when you're doing
like a travelog, especially in a country
715
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,120
like India, where there is such
a dichotomy between the rich and the poor.
716
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,120
Yeah. you know, it's really easy to do
717
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,120
like poverty
porn to get like points, right?
718
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:44,400
Yeah.
719
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,160
We set in like, we will not do that.
720
00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:50,080
We talked about that a lot.
721
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,760
Yes, we were adamant not to do that.
722
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,600
We did not want to do that kind of thing.
723
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,560
And I don't think
like we do that with that.
724
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:03,080
I think we try to show like
it is very helpful in this beautiful thing
725
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:07,240
because I think that's what it is
that we really wanted that to come across.
726
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,240
Certainly I thought so too. Yeah.
727
00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:11,680
That was well done for sure.
728
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:12,000
Yeah.
729
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,320
Did you get
730
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,320
did you get a sense
of how popular American rappers
731
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,280
are to the Indian population over there,
or did you not really get that sense
732
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,520
because you were like an engrossed
in their hip hop scene?
733
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:25,520
No, we
734
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,440
heard because I heard like,
they're obviously like any performance.
735
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,240
There's always like a DJ set
at any performance, right?
736
00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:37,040
So like, no, they are playing like regular
hip hop and we would we go at night.
737
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,320
We literally went out like every night
after
738
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,440
we were there, like, you know, listen,
what were you going to do?
739
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,240
Like not go enjoy the time you were there?
740
00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:50,440
Like,
when am I ever going to get back to India?
741
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,040
Like, I don't know if I'll ever be able
to go back. Right?
742
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,440
So I'm going to go Joy, every minute
I was there.
743
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,080
And so we would go out every night.
744
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,480
We'd be in bars and clubs and shit
like that.
745
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,080
And American hip hop was huge there.
746
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:08,160
Like I said, one
747
00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:11,120
Drake’s
God’s Plan had just dropped in like
748
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,560
it was playing all everywhere we went.
749
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:15,400
It was playing.
750
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,280
So they were playing the current,
the current stuff.
751
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,040
Not like. Okay.
I was just curious about that.
752
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,400
I know
753
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,280
what I, you know, based on your word,
but I know
754
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:31,280
God's Plan came out around that time
because I remember being in the hospital
755
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,520
and I was going to do a MRI
756
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,000
and they put me in the machine
and they asked me
757
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,360
like I went in with head trauma.
758
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,440
They got to like, lock you in.
759
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:48,640
So I'm like, in this thing and I'm doing
like 40 minutes at a time, like MRI's.
760
00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:53,040
And they asked me like yo, Do you want to
listen to music in the headphones?
761
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,440
I was like, Yeah, sure is like
762
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:56,240
the, the
763
00:38:56,240 --> 00:38:59,680
attending like technician was like,
what kind of music do you want to hear?
764
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:04,240
I was like, you know something, chill,
play some jazz and then a God’s Plan.
765
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:10,440
I asked for a jazz
and he just played Drake anyway.
766
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,840
He literally.
767
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,840
Every time I hear that song.
768
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,600
I picture myself in that.
769
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,160
In an MRI machine, it’s not pleasant.
770
00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:21,320
That's funny.
771
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:22,000
Yeah.
772
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:22,880
You know what?
773
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,200
They were playing a lot. There was.
774
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:25,680
I am just.
775
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,680
I can't live in
776
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,440
that song. I think had just dropped.
777
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,320
So that was huge.
778
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:32,880
Yeah.
779
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,920
Like they played that a lot
while we were there.
780
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,720
They were playing a lot of current.
781
00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:39,480
Like I said, look,
I think the, the homogeneity of like
782
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,480
monoculture is like so huge at this point.
783
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:47,880
Like, yeah, they were playing like a lot
of, like the modern stuff.
784
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,160
I like to
give the listeners like a comparison too.
785
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,960
So as far as like Prab Deep,
who you know, was at the top, was up
786
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,960
and coming, now you see he's dropped
like four albums and yeah,
787
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,560
which American rapper style does
he most sound like,
788
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:06,360
If you could possibly compare,
if there's any comparison,
789
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,520
he's got a good stage presence,
I saw, you know.
790
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:14,280
Yes, he's a great performer,
amazing performer.
791
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,680
Honestly,
792
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,520
Maybe Childish Gambino,
like a lot of their early
793
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:25,600
stuff, reminds me of like Bonfire and
794
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:26,880
what's the name of that record?
795
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:27,840
I love that record.
796
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:28,600
I can't think of it.
797
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,120
It's also like that off that album.
798
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:36,000
But like a lot of that early stuff
and then like there's
799
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,800
newer stuff that's very much like later
Childish Gambino.
800
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,520
He really kind of reminds
me of Childish Gambino.
801
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:43,960
Nice,
802
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,360
cool.
803
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,560
This couple more questions
and then we can wrap.
804
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,440
So the record label owner and the manager
of Prab Deep, it was Mo Joshi.
805
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,240
He was. Yeah, he was delightful.
806
00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:55,640
He was just a fountain of information.
807
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,320
Like, I got to listen to him British guy.
808
00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:59,400
We there's.
809
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,320
That interview's like an hour long.
810
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:01,800
Oh wow.
811
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,800
A lot of that interview's cut, but
812
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,680
it literally is just like it.
813
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,680
We talked and just talked and talked and
talked and talked and talked and talked.
814
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,240
And like you said, yes, he.
815
00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:13,600
He would talk forever.
816
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:14,760
Yeah, he was.
817
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,480
He was great.
818
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,480
He was fantastic, too, with like,
819
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,800
you know, we use a couple other songs
in like the movie.
820
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:28,120
So, like he was really cool about like,
just letting us, like, rock out with that.
821
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:29,000
It's actually funny, too,
822
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,000
because there's like several versions
of the actual documentary.
823
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,760
There's a version that lives on
Quincy Jones’s streaming
824
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,760
service Qwest TV, that's
825
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:44,400
that doesn't have some of the songs
cause like, we like, I pulled some stuff
826
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,920
because it was like, well, we're,
you know, I didn't want to like
827
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,760
licensing stuff. I was worried.
828
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,000
So, like, there's that version.
829
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:55,280
There's a version that has
830
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,000
that has the one that's on
831
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,600
YouTube is in three parts
and it has like some extra stuff in it.
832
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,600
And then there's a whole version
that we've said
833
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,600
that was in the film festivals
that's like its own thing.
834
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,640
That's like just a full film in one piece.
835
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,640
So there's actually like
several different,
836
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,240
like little versions of the film,
which is actually kind of cool.
837
00:42:13,240 --> 00:42:14,440
That's cool.
838
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,960
So one other thing about Mo Joshi,
he referenced Sez on the Beat
839
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,720
as being super integral to the growing
popularity of hip hop in India.
840
00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:24,680
Like he's the guy that helped
841
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,120
spawn the popularity.
842
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:31,040
Is there a US equivalent of Sez
843
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,480
like what Sez has done
for hip hop in India?
844
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,120
Is there someone the U.S.
845
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:36,880
is that like
846
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,440
Dre or P-Diddy?
847
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,120
I actually have somebody in my head.
848
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,920
I wonder, John, do you
can you think of somebody like.
849
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,840
Yeah, I don't know, because I don't know
that there's any single equivalent
850
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,920
Marley maybe. You know. Yeah, yeah.
851
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,280
You know who I was thinking about?
And it's more current.
852
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,640
I get like, not current guys, but I can't.
853
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,640
I was thinking Timberland because, like,
he, like, kind of, like, launched
854
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,840
that whole kind of Virginia sound wave
type thing that came out.
855
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,520
A lot of people took his style, too.
856
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,240
Yes. Yeah.
857
00:43:05,240 --> 00:43:07,600
Sez...Sez.
858
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,000
I don't think
it's like as big in the scene right now.
859
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:11,640
And that's partially
860
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,480
just because like he's doing other stuff,
like he's moved on to do other stuff.
861
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,760
But he was like
862
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,920
when we were there,
863
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:25,200
his name was the name
we heard brought up a ton.
864
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:26,400
Nice.
865
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,360
He was like one of the first big,
866
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:33,680
like non like rapper names
to kind of come out like he's like a big
867
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,320
he's like, he's the big first producer
to come out of India type thing.
868
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:43,240
Hmm. That's cool.
869
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,000
So other final question is
870
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,640
how do you think this trip changed
Lush- changed Lush Life?
871
00:43:49,720 --> 00:43:54,280
How did it change him?
872
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:55,080
He was in the element.
873
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,400
He was enjoying it.
874
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,880
I mean, obviously,
you know, when he's before, he's like,
875
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,440
this is always, you know,
because he hadn’t been there ten years.
876
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,240
That's his homeland.
877
00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:06,720
And he embraced the audience.
878
00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:08,680
They seemed to embrace him.
879
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,040
Josh, I don't know if you talked to him
about this.
880
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,520
I haven't spoken to him about this.
881
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,880
So I spoke to him mostly about like,
you know what the trip overall is like
882
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:18,280
me and him.
883
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,760
Me and him came very close,
like me and John said.
884
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,560
We were like
885
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,640
friends at the time.
886
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,120
Like, we were like super close.
887
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,080
John, like, interviewed him and like,
had spent a little more time with him.
888
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:31,720
I had like, hung out with him
a couple of times.
889
00:44:31,720 --> 00:44:35,440
I mean, John had hung out with him
a couple of times, but like we were
890
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,440
I was still kind of not really like,
891
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,400
you know, didn't really know him that
well when we went.
892
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,640
Raj is now one of our closest friends.
893
00:44:45,720 --> 00:44:48,720
We it was a great experience to like.
894
00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:53,280
It was something
that was he expressed like
895
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,320
he had toured obviously with his music.
896
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:00,040
He was like, I've never had a schedule
like that where we were up
897
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,040
all day, shooting all day,
then recording it, then
898
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,640
like performing at night
and then like being on the road
899
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:11,120
and then like doing that over and over
and over and over, day after day.
900
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:12,400
I do think he
901
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:16,040
got I think it gave him
902
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:20,320
I know he said,
like when the first night in Bangalore,
903
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:28,200
there were some people who knew his lyrics
and he
904
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:29,960
he said, it felt surreal
905
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,760
to like hear
like people in India rap his lyrics,
906
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,160
That’s
907
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:36,960
dope. Yeah.
908
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:41,400
And then like doing the actual
big festival because that was huge.
909
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,640
That place was like,
I don't think you don't even really get
910
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,240
the scope of it in the film.
911
00:45:46,240 --> 00:45:50,400
I think I think we didn't
get a really one of the things was like
912
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,880
that was like
we the shout out to the film crew,
913
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,320
they were fucking running on fumes
because like when we slept
914
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:02,120
for like an hour or two, they were up
like transporting like trans- like,
915
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,200
like moving the footage
from one drive to another drive.
916
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,360
So they would have like space for the new
the next day.
917
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,720
Like they didn't sleep for like seven
days, man.
918
00:46:11,720 --> 00:46:14,360
They ran ragged.
919
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,160
So toward the end
920
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,880
we were like,
we ran with more of a skeleton crew
921
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:25,240
and we so I don't we didn't really
I don't think
922
00:46:25,240 --> 00:46:29,440
we got as much of the festival
as we really wanted, but
923
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,400
the festival was packed and like,
924
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,000
I know, like being in India and rocking in
925
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,240
India was huge for him
926
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,200
and I'm sure like kind of felt
927
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:47,200
like a culmination of sorts
for him to like, go to India and perform,
928
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:51,080
go to the homeland
and the motherland and like,
929
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:56,480
get to rock
and do something that you love.
930
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,480
It was really dope
and we got to experience
931
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,480
so much cool shit over there,
932
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,920
you know, they got to like,
933
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,240
teach me how to eat different shit there.
934
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:10,000
I'm very like,
John knows me, I'm a super picky eater.
935
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,160
I was super scared to go there and eat
936
00:47:13,240 --> 00:47:14,400
because I'm so picky.
937
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,680
I have a really questionable
stomach too like.
938
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:22,240
And I was like
super scared over there eating and
939
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:23,280
so it was
940
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,800
I know, like it was one of the things
like John is way more adventurous.
941
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,880
He would like love that shit
way more than I would have
942
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,800
As long as it ain’t beef or pork.
943
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,200
Yeah, like we would.
944
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:35,120
It's great over there.
945
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:36,360
I mean, like, we didn't.
946
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,880
Dude, we caught when we went
947
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,800
to Mumbai from Bangalore,
948
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:47,680
we got up super early
and we were in the airport
949
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:52,200
like 730 in the morning
and we're like dying.
950
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,200
We're like, yo, we got to like,
we had been drinking all night,
951
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,040
Like we were drinking beer for free
because the beer company sent us.
952
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,000
So like we had all the beer
we could drink.
953
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,120
Been like,
although weed could smoke and shit.
954
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,880
So it was like a haha magical trip.
955
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:12,120
And so, like, we got out, we were at this,
956
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,520
we were at the airport
and the only thing that was open
957
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,120
was like this Indian restaurant,
not Indian restaurant.
958
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:22,320
And it would just...restaurant,
I guess, in India.
959
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,120
And like they were, we're serving
like regular Indian food and stuff.
960
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,000
And I was like, Yo, I can't do spices.
961
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,240
It's like 7:00 the morning.
962
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,320
I was like, And Deepak was like,
Yo, I can't
963
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,200
do I don't want to do spices right now
either. Let's let's get some KFC.
964
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,560
So we got some KFC and it
the worst decision,
965
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:46,080
it was so haha Airport KFC
at 730 in the morning was a bad choice.
966
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:51,280
I definitely get away with just like a
nice rice bowl or something. But
967
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,040
we got that and like it was
968
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:58,200
it was the worst turbulence
we I've ever experienced flying
969
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:03,000
and we flew when we were flying from
Bangalore to Mumbai in this tiny plane.
970
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:07,880
And I was it was the only
971
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,480
I was legitimate, like scared,
like I was like, you know, we're gone
972
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,360
because it was all mountains
around us and shit.
973
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,000
Like at least
what I could see was like mountains.
974
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:19,520
And I was like, Yo, if we crash, we're
going to crash into mountains and die.
975
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:23,240
Like,
I legitimately was scared on the plane
976
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:27,080
and it was not helped
977
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,560
because I had like a belly full of greasy,
978
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,840
nasty fried
chicken at 7:30 in the morning.
979
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,800
So it was an adventure.
980
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,720
It was an amazing trip,
I'll say that. Definitely.
981
00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:40,760
Yeah. And look like it was awesome.
982
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,760
I'm glad. I'm
so glad you guys put this on film. That
983
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,440
Wright,
you know, discovered you guys on this
984
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,680
art of sampling show
and we able to link up.
985
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:52,760
Thank you for sharing these experiences.
986
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:53,080
Yeah.
987
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:54,000
Thank you for having us.
988
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,320
Like, it was
989
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,280
like, just.
990
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,600
Just putting it all together
in, like, you know,
991
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,680
we had to learn to make a documentary
to do this.
992
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,480
Like, we didn't know how
to do any of this stuff.
993
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:11,560
We were supposed to start working
on this documentary in 2018 to end.
994
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,000
It was the end of 2018, 2018
when Raj then gets the book
995
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,000
deal or Raj’s just like book comes out.
996
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,880
We because Raj,
like Raj is a children's book
997
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,320
author as well, like a best New York Times
bestselling author.
998
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,280
His career is like going crazy.
999
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,280
Yes, we were sitting down
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to like, edit this film, and the book
was just getting ready to come out
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and he just was like getting
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constantly called out of the like
as we're sitting down going over footage.
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And so, like when the pandemic hit,
like me and Diane kind of just decided
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like, well,
if we're ever going to make this, like,
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we got to like, make it, is
this just going to set the footage?
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We'll sit here
and no one will ever see it.
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And so, like I taught myself Final
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Cut Pro and me and John wrote
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and went over footage and did like,
just did a whole bunch of shit.
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We just taught ourselves
how to make a documentary.
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And, you know,
we were we're very proud of this project.
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I mean, it's definitely changed.
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Like our the shape of what we're doing.
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We're, we are working on a new film
project now.
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We have a few other projects in the works
as well.
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Like this is like really kind
of like changed our lives.
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That's amazing.
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Yeah. So I
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implore you all
to watch Another Word for Paradise.
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We can put the YouTube links,
or if you have a better link,
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we could put it in the show
notes. Definitely.
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Yeah, I would just do the YouTube.
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YouTube this way.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Easiest way.
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We we enjoy it. I've been telling
a lot of people about it.
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My son has gone to school for film
and I got to. To.
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Show him as an example.
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00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:49,720
He would enjoy it as well.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I, I mean, like it is,
I rewatched it today for this podcast.
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I had to sit in in a long time
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00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:05,080
and I obviously watch it with like,
you know,
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00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:09,440
I should like cut that scene
like a fraction of a second earlier.
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00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:13,120
Like all that stuff has like now
in my head you know what I mean?
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00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,800
I'm like, all going to cut that one
like just a fraction of a second.
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They're like, faded
that song out just a little better here.
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But I mean, like,
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I still really, really,
really proud of that project.
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We have a we're going to be doing
another thing here in Philly.
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You know, we'll we'll definitely keep
you guys, we'll let you guys know.
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00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:37,880
We're definitely doing another thing
about this film here in Philly soon.
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00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,440
So we'll get well,
you know, we'll, we'll just check us out.
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00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:45,600
Serious Rap Shit,
social media's Instagram and Twitter.
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@SeriousRapShit.
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And you know, if you want to follow us
there, we'll
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there's there's going to be some new stuff
coming up.
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00:52:51,720 --> 00:52:54,240
Like I said,
we have the new film. Fantastic. Great.
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00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:55,520
Yeah. It's going to be dope.
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00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,160
Yeah, we'll definitely promote that.
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Thank you.
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Never thought I'd make a film like,
you know, I mean, you're
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talking about two dudes who grew up
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00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,240
the furthest thing away from Hollywood.
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00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:11,840
None of that stuff ever? Like, we.
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00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,280
We didn't dream about this.
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00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:14,760
Like, we didn't dream about this.
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00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,960
We dreamt of it, but, like, they didn't
think this would happen, right?
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00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,680
Like, this is something, you know, we
we never thought would happen.
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You know,
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00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,440
we're very we're very thankful.
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And like,
you know, I talk about this all the time.
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00:53:28,720 --> 00:53:33,280
I mentioned it at the
The Art of Sampling talk.
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We're very grateful to be like
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00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:40,840
to be a part of the culture that we love
and like that we admire
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00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:45,760
and to be a part of that
and to contribute to it
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00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,160
is a feeling that I can't like
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00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:53,160
really even like, explain now.
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00:53:53,240 --> 00:53:54,240
It's a great feeling.
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00:53:54,240 --> 00:53:55,840
Yeah, sure.
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00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,440
Yeah, yeah. All right. All right.
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00:53:58,440 --> 00:53:59,520
Thank you all so much.
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00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:00,480
Yes, thank. You.
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00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,000
It's just nice to meet you. And. Yes.
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00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:03,720
Yeah, Thank you.
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00:54:03,720 --> 00:54:05,640
We’ll be in touch.
Thanks a lot, you guys. Yeah.
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00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,040
Thank you. So, thank you.
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