Have you ever had that moment where you realize your anger isn't just affecting your relationship, it's now shaping the kind of parent you're becoming?
Speaker AAnd with that realization, you what if I pass this destructive pattern on?
Speaker AThat's exactly where Katie found herself.
Speaker AA relationship on the brink of ending arguments happening in front of her child.
Speaker AThe growing fear that the anger she grew up around was starting to repeat itself through her.
Speaker AIf you're listening today, that already says something powerful about you.
Speaker AIt means you're brave enough to look at the long term impact of anger on yourself, your partner, and your family.
Speaker AToday's episode is powerful because Katie is a client of mine who didn't just talk about change.
Speaker AShe took action when things were still repairable.
Speaker AAnd within weeks, her partner noticed a shift in her.
Speaker AHer daughter noticed it too.
Speaker AThe constant tension eased, the snapping slowed, and that anger cycle that has been affecting her for years began to break.
Speaker AHello and welcome to episode 66 of the Anger Management Podcast.
Speaker AI Alistair.
Speaker AI'm your host, Alistair Dues, and over the last 30 years, I've taught over 15,000 men and women to control their anger, master their emotions, and create calmer, happier, and more loving relationships.
Speaker AIn this podcast, I combine my 30 years of anger management experience with the power of artificial intelligence to share with you some of the most powerful tips and tools I know to help people control their anger, master their emotions, and live calmer, happier, and more peaceful lives.
Speaker AToday we're going to hear from Katie, a woman who had already tried therapy and in person anger management, but still found herself stuck in the same painful patterns.
Speaker AKatie's story is a powerful reminder that controlling your anger does require perfection.
Speaker AIt requires the right tools applied consistently at the moments that matter most.
Speaker AMake sure you stick around to the end of the episode too, where I'll let you know how you can start taking control of your anger before it's too late.
Speaker ASo, without further ado, let's dive into my interview with Katie.
Speaker BSo just tell me a little bit about yourself.
Speaker CSo I am 35 years old, I have a daughter, and I've been with my partner for about 10 years now.
Speaker CAnd I decided to join your anger management course because my relationship, it was getting really, like, abusive.
Speaker CAnd I noticed that it was affecting the way I was parenting and I didn't want to repeat the generational cycle that was repeated onto me too.
Speaker CAnd so I knew that I needed help and more help than just what I was gaining from my therapist.
Speaker BWhat kind of behaviors were you concerned about?
Speaker CI was worried about verbal Abuse, possibly just I consider spanking like physical abuse.
Speaker CSo I was worried about getting to the point where I okayed spanking.
Speaker CI didn't want to do that with my daughter.
Speaker CAlso, our relationship with my partner, it was barely hanging on and we were talking about splitting up and co parenting, and I also didn't want that for her either.
Speaker BYeah, thanks for that.
Speaker BSo how has starting the course been for you?
Speaker CIt's been really good.
Speaker CI've been doing really well, and my partner has noticed a change and it's been helping our relationship.
Speaker CAnd my daughter has even noticed a change too.
Speaker CThings I used to just snap at or a lot of fights that we would get into in front of her have decreased drastically.
Speaker AThat's awesome.
Speaker AWhat do you think you're doing differently?
Speaker CI think the most helpful is early warning signs.
Speaker CBeing, like, aware of them and noticing where I am on the tension scale and then using the positive self talk to get out of where I am on the tension scale.
Speaker CAnd the anger diary also helps a lot.
Speaker CI'm able to, like, look back and not only see my progress, but also see what I was angry about and, like, self reflect.
Speaker BSo are there any common themes in that?
Speaker BLike, is something being getting you angry consistently?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CIt was mostly feeling disrespected and having that positive self talk about not, like, taking it so personally has helped.
Speaker CI just need to practice it more and.
Speaker CBut for the most part, I'm able to disengage.
Speaker BAnd I'm guessing that leads to a better outcome.
Speaker COh, yeah, definitely.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BAnd how fast do you think you've made these changes?
Speaker CSo I'm on.
Speaker CI believe I'm on week five or six.
Speaker CAround week four is when my partner said that he started seeing me improving with my awareness and not so angry, not so much on edge.
Speaker BHas it been easy or hard for you to make these changes so far?
Speaker CSo it's.
Speaker CIt hasn't been hard.
Speaker CAnd it's not like an.
Speaker CIt's a straight up, like, slope.
Speaker CLike, last week went down, but that's how I feel.
Speaker CLike, growth is.
Speaker CIt's not gonna look straight up all the time, and some weeks are better than others, but I feel like I'm making progress and yeah, I feel like I'm making progress.
Speaker BI understand that you grew up in a home where there was some form of anger or abuse.
Speaker BDid you kind of witness this when you were growing up?
Speaker CYeah, there was a lot of yelling, not too much hitting or anything like that.
Speaker CBut my parents fought a lot.
Speaker CLike, every day pretty much.
Speaker CAnd my dad Would always like, yell at me and my sisters a lot.
Speaker CYeah, there was a lot.
Speaker BI guess he would have picked up some behaviors from witnessing that.
Speaker COh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker CI've always been just really angry as a person since I was a little child.
Speaker CI would throw tantrums and I was always angry.
Speaker CAnd it was something that was always a struggle for me throughout my whole life.
Speaker BAnd I think some of your motivation to change is not to pass on your anger to your daughter.
Speaker BIs that right?
Speaker CYes.
Speaker CYes.
Speaker CI do not want to pass this on to her.
Speaker CSo that was very motivating to join this course.
Speaker BHas anything else in the course stood out for you?
Speaker CI really like how you tie in relationships to.
Speaker CTo the anger management because it's interrelated.
Speaker CI feel like relationships and striving for a healthy, happy relationship without like, abuse and some things.
Speaker CLike my partner didn't even realize how he was also being abusive.
Speaker CEven though it wasn't like a physical abuse, he was still abusive.
Speaker CAnd when he started the course too, it was like an eye opener for him and it just motivated him to also want to change that.
Speaker CSo I really liked how you added that into the course.
Speaker BSo if someone was listening to this podcast episode and thinking about doing the.
Speaker ACourse, what would you say to them?
Speaker CIf it's something that you've been struggling with and you've been trying to get help, I definitely recommend this course.
Speaker CIt's different than doing like a group, like in person anger management course, which I've done before, that is helpful.
Speaker CBut I feel like this is like even more helpful because I'm able to go back to the modules and re listen and watch them and redo the exercises again.
Speaker CAnd I found that very helpful.
Speaker CThere's so much that you just miss if you just listen to it once.
Speaker CSo just re watching it and re listening to it and applying the skills.
Speaker CLike, yeah, it's really, it's beneficial.
Speaker BAnd how does this course compare with, say, doing therapy?
Speaker BWhat do you think the differences are between the course and therapy?
Speaker CThere's just so much more dedicated to like your anger versus in therapy.
Speaker CIt's like your childhood trauma and other things, like trying to dive into that and what caused this and that.
Speaker CAnd for anger management, specifically catered to your anger and finding skills that work for you, that help you and it focuses on that.
Speaker CI feel like also that you have more skills to give and provide versus a therapist.
Speaker CI've asked my therapist for skills multiple times and they give me the same thing.
Speaker CIt's little superficial, like just square breathing things like that.
Speaker CI feel like you dive into it a little bit more.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BThank you.
Speaker BIs there anything else you'd like to say?
Speaker CYeah, I'm just really happy that I did this course.
Speaker CThat it's.
Speaker CYeah, it was really beneficial to my family and myself.
Speaker AThanks for tuning in today's episode of the anger management podcast.
Speaker AI hope you have found this conversation with Katie useful.
Speaker ABefore we finish, however, let's summarise the main ideas that Katie shared, because there are some really important takeaways here that can make a genuine difference in real life.
Speaker AFirst, Katie talked about the difference between talking about anger and actually learning how to manage it.
Speaker AShe'd spent time in therapy and in face to face programs, but what was missing were practical tools she she could use in the moment when anger was rising and things were about to escalate.
Speaker AWhat helped her wasn't analyzing the past, but learning what to do right now when she felt triggered.
Speaker ASecond, awareness came up again and again as a turning point for Katie.
Speaker AKatie talked about learning her early warning signs and noticing where she was on the tension scale before anger took over.
Speaker AThat awareness gave her options.
Speaker AInstead of snapping automatically, she could intervene early, use positive self talk, and disengage before things escalated.
Speaker AThis is huge because you can't change what you don't notice.
Speaker AThird, Katie's motivation to break the generational cycle really stood out.
Speaker AKatie grew up around anger and yelling, and she could see how easily those patterns get passed on.
Speaker AHer decision to change wasn't just about saving her relationship.
Speaker AIt was about protecting her daughter from growing up in the same emotional environment.
Speaker AThat kind of motivation is powerful and it's often what gives people the strength to stick with the work when it gets uncomfortable.
Speaker AAnd finally, Katie reminded us that progress isn't a straight line, and that's normal.
Speaker AShe had good weeks and harder weeks, but she could still see clear progress over time.
Speaker ABeing able to revisit the material in my course, redo the exercises and reflect.
Speaker AUsing tools like the anger diary helped her stay on track.
Speaker AChange doesn't mean never getting angry again.
Speaker AIt means getting better at noticing it, responding differently, and repairing when needed.
Speaker AAnd if there's one big message from Katie's story, it's real.
Speaker AChange is possible when you have the right tools, the right support, and the willingness to keep practicing, even when it's not perfect.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AI hope you found this episode helpful.
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Speaker ARemember too, for free support to control your anger, including access to a free training or a free 30 minute anger assessment core with me, visit my website, angersecrets.com or if you would like to begin your anger management journey right now, visit angasecrets.com course to enrol in my powerful online course, the Complete Anger Management System.
Speaker AI'd be honored to help you on your anger management journey.
Speaker AFinally, remember, you can't control other people, but you can control yourself.
Speaker AI'll see you in the next episode.
Speaker ATake care.
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Speaker DNo therapeutic relationship is implied or created by this podcast.
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