LinkedIn is becoming an important source for AI answers.
Speaker:So in this week's episode, we're gonna unpack the research together so
Speaker:that B2B marketers know exactly what they should be paying attention to.
Speaker:G'Day everyone.
Speaker:It's Michelle J Raymond here, and this week listeners, we're gonna be talking
Speaker:about all things AI and specifically this week about how tools like ChatGPT
Speaker:Perplexity, and Co are all starting to cite LinkedIn more often in their results.
Speaker:Now on the surface, this sounds really exciting, but is all
Speaker:as it appears on the surface.
Speaker:Of course, by my tone, I guess you know that I have some
Speaker:differing opinions about this.
Speaker:Mostly what I wanna focus on in today's episode is what parts of LinkedIn
Speaker:should you be focusing on to make sure that you maximise your chances of your
Speaker:content, of your page, of your profile, all being cited by these AI tools.
Speaker:So I will do my best.
Speaker:It is an ongoing conversation, so I may have to do a follow up episode because
Speaker:the research that's coming out is coming out thick and fast and it's, you know,
Speaker:gonna be fun to try and keep up with.
Speaker:So let's dive into that right after this quick word from our
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Speaker:If you haven't seen it already, there are two key pieces of
Speaker:research that have come out.
Speaker:One by Profound and one by SEMRUSH.
Speaker:And both are really, really interesting and I will make sure that the links
Speaker:are included in the podcast summary.
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Speaker:Let's talk about what's out there exactly.
Speaker:Now, fact number one, let's just start with that yes, LinkedIn is
Speaker:increasingly being cited by AI systems.
Speaker:So that's a fact.
Speaker:Every second post I'm seeing at the moment from a LinkedIn employee
Speaker:is basically highlighting the fact that LinkedIn is being cited.
Speaker:They're shouting the fact that LinkedIn has become the most cited
Speaker:domain for professional queries.
Speaker:Now, there are two pieces to that statement that you really
Speaker:need to pay attention to.
Speaker:Cited domain, so that is linkedin.com.
Speaker:So that's not your post necessarily, but as a whole, linkedin.com is
Speaker:the one that's being cited for and part two, professional queries.
Speaker:I mean, that makes sense, right?
Speaker:LinkedIn has such a great database.
Speaker:That is people, companies, job roles, expertise.
Speaker:So if you are AI and you wanna put forward the best answer to
Speaker:these queries, of course LinkedIn is going to pop up in that.
Speaker:The other thing that I wanna talk about is this automatic assumption
Speaker:that if linkedin.com is being cited more by the AI tools, then posting
Speaker:more will get you cited by AI tools.
Speaker:Now that's a pretty big oversimplification at best, and what I want you to have
Speaker:a think about, and I will share the stats, when you look at the Profound
Speaker:research, which I've done a lot of digging into it, so you don't have
Speaker:to, but essentially on their charts, yes, posts went up and increased
Speaker:their share of being shown in results.
Speaker:Articles and newsletters also went up and on the surface.
Speaker:That's amazing.
Speaker:So it was around, I don't know, 25, 30%.
Speaker:So that also means that 70 odd percent of the content that's out there
Speaker:isn't being picked up by these tools.
Speaker:And on the other side, in this particular research, they're also showing
Speaker:that profiles dropped significantly
Speaker:Now.
Speaker:There's a so many different ways that we can look at this, but what
Speaker:it shows is, yes, the data shows us that LinkedIn content is appearing
Speaker:more and more often, but it doesn't prove that posting more frequently
Speaker:is the answer to making sure that it drives AI visibility for your brand.
Speaker:Let's go to fact two.
Speaker:Not all LinkedIn content performs the same in AI answers.
Speaker:Now the SEMRUSH study is one that I think is actually more aligned and
Speaker:something that we should pay more attention to, and this is the second
Speaker:round of info that they've released.
Speaker:The last lot was out in around October last year, which I
Speaker:was a big fan of as well.
Speaker:I'm not getting paid to talk about this, just to put that out there,
Speaker:but the SEMRUSH study analysed tens of thousands of LinkedIn URLs
Speaker:that were cited by AI, and that was across ChatGPT, Google AI Mode and
Speaker:Perplexity, some of the main ones.
Speaker:And one of the actual interesting things that showed up for me was that
Speaker:actually just because a post goes viral.
Speaker:It's very rare that the AI systems actually cite those posts, so there's more
Speaker:to this than just content that's popular.
Speaker:There's more to this than just getting lots and lots of engagement.
Speaker:And when you think about this, it marries up with how the LinkedIn feed works.
Speaker:And the LinkedIn feed currently is optimising for relevancy.
Speaker:So are you a credible authority, showing up consistently, driving
Speaker:conversations, on an area or topic, that is one key focus for you?
Speaker:And that applies to your Company Page as well.
Speaker:And interesting fun fact Company Pages were cited more often than actual
Speaker:individual profiles in this study.
Speaker:So from that perspective, there's so much reason to have a look into this
Speaker:and not ignore Company Pages like everybody would have you believe.
Speaker:The most important thing when we're analysing all of this is,
Speaker:AI systems they optimise for explanations, authority, and clarity.
Speaker:If you think about it, the LinkedIn feed rewards content that spreads, but the
Speaker:AI system rewards content that explains.
Speaker:Fact three in today's episode is definitely that
Speaker:fundamentals still matter most.
Speaker:And that is exactly what B2B marketers should be most focused on.
Speaker:You also now can understand why I have been banging on about marketing
Speaker:fundamentals and staying on track, I would say for the most of this podcast, but
Speaker:definitely since the start of the year.
Speaker:So if you've missed some of those episodes, please go back and check it out.
Speaker:There are probably three fundamentals that I think if you want your brand
Speaker:to get cited by AI using LinkedIn.
Speaker:Number one is clear expertise.
Speaker:The AI systems need to understand who you are, what you do
Speaker:and what you are known for.
Speaker:So that means if we go onto the next step, you need really strong
Speaker:profiles and Company Pages.
Speaker:So if you haven't gone back and updated those and made sure all of
Speaker:that information is whole and complete and shows the AI and people, more
Speaker:importantly, who you are, what you do, and what makes you different,
Speaker:and also what problem you solve.
Speaker:I would add in there for Company Pages.
Speaker:Then ultimately, if you confuse them, you lose them.
Speaker:I've said that also a thousand times on this podcast.
Speaker:So making sure that you're leaning into your positioning and coming
Speaker:back to make sure that all of the foundational bits, Profile, Company
Speaker:Page and your content are all aligned with what you wanna be known for.
Speaker:If we do those things consistently, that's when AI's little eyes light up
Speaker:and that's when they're looking for you as a credible source that they can cite.
Speaker:Now interestingly, as part of my research, there is a lot of research
Speaker:going on out there that is actually disproving how AI tools cite information
Speaker:and that it's not always accurate.
Speaker:So there's my little star and disclaimer on this one.
Speaker:Think about it like not everything's perfect and sunshine and fairies
Speaker:like many would have you believe.
Speaker:And certainly, again, posting more is not the solution.
Speaker:The other thing that I would like to say here, just as part of this, is yes, posts
Speaker:that support the system, maybe not getting cited by ChatGPT or Perplexity or any of
Speaker:the models that you like to use, but it doesn't mean that they're not valuable.
Speaker:So can we not just run off and instead of pleasing the algorithm gods now
Speaker:think, how do we please the AI gods?
Speaker:We are not doing that.
Speaker:Because the content that we're creating ultimately is about building visibility
Speaker:and credibility with your target audience.
Speaker:You know, those real humans that pay the bills at the end of the day.
Speaker:But doing these things will support your expertise footprint, and when
Speaker:we look at it like that and know that they're not gonna replace it,
Speaker:then that really is a game changer.
Speaker:So I know that if you have a look at the posts that are coming from
Speaker:LinkedIn employees, they will absolutely be encouraging you to post more.
Speaker:And if you stop and think, why are they doing that?
Speaker:Duh.
Speaker:They have a vested interest in you spending more time.
Speaker:Why?
Speaker:Because if you scroll more.
Speaker:You're gonna watch more ads, and if you watch more ads,
Speaker:guess who makes more money?
Speaker:LinkedIn.
Speaker:So often follow the money trail.
Speaker:After this quick break, I'm gonna go into some practical tips about
Speaker:how I think you can use linkedin.com to increase the chances of your
Speaker:brand being cited in the AI tools.
Speaker:So let's do that next.
Speaker:What does it look like if we practically apply the things that we've been
Speaker:talking about in today's episode?
Speaker:And again, I've tried to keep it at a high level, a simple
Speaker:level that you can understand.
Speaker:Please do go and subscribe to my LinkedIn newsletter and have a look
Speaker:at the most recent additions where I dive into this, give you all the links
Speaker:to the research and make sure step by step you can break this down and
Speaker:have conversations in your business.
Speaker:You need any more help or looking for some more clarity.
Speaker:You know, I'm always here to help you guys.
Speaker:I wanna talk first about some practical tips and different ways that you can
Speaker:explore what content is, first of all, being indexed by Google 'cause if it's
Speaker:indexed by Google, then it will be discovered by the large language models.
Speaker:And keep in mind.
Speaker:Those models aren't learning immediately the day that something
Speaker:goes and gets indexed by Google.
Speaker:They take time.
Speaker:It's not that instant gratification that we think that the whole
Speaker:world lives in these days.
Speaker:So patience is a virtue.
Speaker:Doing things consistently is what these tools love.
Speaker:They want you to be the authority in your area and be consistent around that.
Speaker:One of the best ways that I know that you can do this is LinkedIn articles,
Speaker:and even better, I think LinkedIn newsletters are indexed by Google.
Speaker:They have stable pages.
Speaker:You can have the structure that the AI tools love with headings and subheadings,
Speaker:and ultimately these are what are popping up in a lot of the answers.
Speaker:So think about what is your audience going to Google or going to the AI tools.
Speaker:Looking for answers and can you create a newsletter that answers that question?
Speaker:Now, some of you might think, yes, we've already done that.
Speaker:It's on our website.
Speaker:Well, here's what I do.
Speaker:I put it on my website and I put it in my LinkedIn newsletter.
Speaker:Why do I do that?
Speaker:I double my chances.
Speaker:By being able to piggyback on what happens with linkedin.com being such
Speaker:a trusted domain, which it always has been, then I can piggyback on
Speaker:their success and hopefully increase my chances and bonus points I always
Speaker:share this stuff in my email newsletter with the audience that I own.
Speaker:Ultimately, I'm gonna share some links in the show notes today where you can
Speaker:do a simple search on Google and have a look at what information is showing
Speaker:on Google in relation to your posts.
Speaker:And you might be really interested 'cause you can do a bit of digging
Speaker:and realise when it comes to posts, there is not that much that shows up.
Speaker:When you think about, broad topics and see the results, you'll be mind blown.
Speaker:Even for me, I've been creating content for 10 years and I did a
Speaker:simple search around all of the information it could find as Michelle
Speaker:J Raymond as a creator on LinkedIn.
Speaker:What post it had, indexed and all the other information.
Speaker:Honest to God, there was like a very small percentage, like I'm
Speaker:talking teeny tiny, given how much content that I put out there.
Speaker:So you know, if I'm doing it that for that long, that consistently,
Speaker:and you're only just starting and it's not working, you just gotta
Speaker:give it more time and more energy.
Speaker:I guess as we look at this, there is going to be more and more studies pop up.
Speaker:There is gonna be more and more talk around yeah, just post more on LinkedIn.
Speaker:That's the answer.
Speaker:LinkedIn gets cited.
Speaker:Just remember, it's not your posts that are being cited in the answers most
Speaker:likely it's linkedin.com, so whether that's profiles, pages, content.
Speaker:Articles and newsletters, or even the linkedin.com help pages, that is what is
Speaker:being cited so just keep that in mind.
Speaker:Take everything with a grain of salt, and if you need some help optimising
Speaker:your Page or your Profile, then reach out to me and we can make sure that you
Speaker:are giving your brand the best chance possible of being cited by these tools.
Speaker:I know today's episode has probably been a little tech heavy, compared to
Speaker:like a lot of my other episodes, and I appreciate you for lasting this long
Speaker:because I think this is an important topic, one that cannot be oversimplified.
Speaker:Also one that will reward those that stay on track, stay consistent and
Speaker:stick with the marketing fundamentals.
Speaker:And if you're a B2B marketer that's been listening to this episode, that
Speaker:should be music to your ears because I love the fact that I feel like the cheap
Speaker:vanity metrics of engagement and likes and impressions, slowly but surely being
Speaker:replaced by authority, and that's the kinda LinkedIn that I wanna be a part of.
Speaker:So until next week, cheers.