No, and welcome to the Borealis experience. I'm your

host Aurora, and today with me sad gab mA here. And I'm

extremely blessed and delighted to have this young man on my

show today he is 15 years old from Bangladesh. And he reached

out to me, as an aspiring author, and mental health

advocate, he has a strong mission and vision out there for

us. And yeah, I'm especially excited today because a couple

of days ago, I thought that I really wanted to have an

interview, where we talk about the young generation. And now

here he is.

And I'm very excited to share with my audience what your

mission is, what your vision is for the future. And at the end,

you will let us know, yeah, where we can meet with you where

we can stay connected with you and learn more about your book.

We just had a little bit of an introduction talk. And this is

where you shared with me where you from, and where your desire

or urgency comes to raise awareness when it comes to

mental health. You also shared with me that at school, you're

being taught how you can take care of your mental health. And

I find that very, very impressive and worthy of sharing

with people from North America and from Europe. So welcome to

the show, The stage is yours. And we want to know as much

about you as possible. If you want to give us a little bit of

an introduction of how you started becoming

interested about mental health awareness, it is not usual as a

15 year old

to be passionate about this topic, and it'd be awesome to to

find out what made you so passionate about it.

There are a lot of reasons for what made me passionate about

it. Some of which was where I lived in and what situation I

was like, what environment I was situated in. So those played a

role. Also, one thing about like having

social anxiety was one thing that also played a role since I

had it. So I thought like, that was something others might

happen. But at that time, there was less awareness about it. So

I did not know I, I felt like that was only me who was going

through this. So as soon as I learned that it isn't me only.

So I thought spreading the message would help others know

that they're not alone in this journey. There are others who

are here at our company. Hmm. And that is so important.

Because probably back then when you first experienced your

anxiety, you saw something is wrong with you, you're broken,

and you have a hard time surviving.

How are you going to make a future if you have that anxiety,

and once you realize that there is other people with that

anxiety. It actually lowered the anxiety probably and made you

feel less alone. That is so critical. And then you decided

to talk more about it in order to to de stigmatize it even

more.

And how was it for you within within your family? Like were

they a full support? Or did they think oh, what is up doing

there? This is very weird for a young person. How did your

family react?

Actually, my mom is really supportive. She supports

everything I do. She she has given us as much freedom as it's

needed. So she doesn't really keep like, you know, asking us

of what we do, but she does keep updates about what we're doing.

Obviously she does. So she was really supportive and everyone

else was also

really supportive? Yeah, yeah, no, they can be very proud of

you. Sometimes when we, we have strong desires to, to yet change

society or shape society in a new way. We we meet resistance

and we meet people who are like, well, this is weird.

But I'm glad that I found the support and your family. That's,

that's so precious.

Now tell us a little bit about your writing, you started

writing? And Did I understand correctly that this is your way

you'd like to express yourself and get the message out there?

Yeah.

So writing for me is actually like, expressing my feelings

into like, putting them into words and sharing them helps

like other people who are also experiencing this, to really

understand how

they are not alone and how the things can be. And to fiction, I

think it's more you have more capacity to have a broader range

of expressing the thing you're trying to express. Because you

can kind of you can go on and make situation that you haven't

been in, but others might have done. So you put them in those

situation. And then you're like, see this character is going to

this, you? You might as well be going to this, but she ended up

well. You might also end up well. Yeah, yeah. So with your

work, you make people feel less alone, you make them able to

relate to the characters in the book? And how far are you into

into writing? Now? Did you publish something already?

Yes, I've already published my first book. It is a story.

Obviously, it's fictional. But the thing is, I tried to keep it

as realistic as possible, so that people can relate and feel

moved by it. Yeah, yeah. That is so cool. And is it written for

children? Or is it for adults? Or is it for both?

It's for both, it's for all ages. But

people have like, you know, younger people, like, you know,

young adults and new adults would find it more relatable.

Yeah, yeah. Because the things I tried to break down like some, I

even tried to break down some stigmas. So some stigma most

most of the stigma that I tried to be on both about them, so

near them, so yeah, I'm part of it was like, the message that

reach out, you might be helped, there might be people willing to

listen to you. So that was there. But there was also stuff

like there was cruelty as well, because we experience it so

completely vanishing, it would make it seem like you're the

only day are the only people

like, you know, feeling those

spacing those stuff, and not others, which would make them

feel like Oh, my God, my life is the worst. But then it's so I

included Realty so that they know that it isn't only them,

facing those, and others are standing to the storm.

without falling apart, so please, you should do it. Yeah,

yeah. That is so cool. No, it makes a lot of sense and, and

resonates was my mission and was my heart. So yeah, I'm just

blown away how you found my podcast, and we're here now

talking, this is awesome.

Would you like to share with us how you take care of your mental

health, you said that at a young age, you experienced anxiety and

then you found out that you're not alone. And that's one of the

tools that I use, that you are using today.

To help yourself to stay grounded and to keep focusing on

your mission.

Definitely one part of it is keep yourself surrounded by

people who are supportive because when you're surrounded

by those people, they help you like the you know, the vibe they

give, give off, helps you keep strong keep to go in throughout

all those storms and all that

was crashes your grown going through. So definitely that but

then some part of it was writing. So I would suggest,

like, you know, any hobby that you have maybe cooking, or

learning a new language or anything, go up, do it like, you

know, now we have Google. So definitely that is really

helpful to like research about anything you want to do. So

go up and research about what you're trying to do learn new

things, maybe try doing them and then maybe you you will feel

moved. Definitely. Yeah, that is so special. And earlier, when we

talked, you said, once you found your hobby, your activity that

excites you and grounds you and makes you feel good. Sometimes,

self doubt, creeps in and makes you want to stop and makes you

want to throw away that pen that you use to write your story.

What do you share with people on how to,

to conquer that self doubt and how to stay on your mission once

you found it?

One part of it is that I think for some, like, at least for

some minutes, take a break.

Be yourself as a cup of coffee, and then just think where you

started, see where you started. Even if it's like just

yesterday, you have come like you have spent the whole day

your face the whole day. So, you will be able to face the next

day if you try. And another thing is that since I have been

an artist, so I looked up people there, there have been a lot of

people who have gone gone through the same struggles as

me. So but they are like, you know, they have moved past it.

So when you look at those images, those pictures you you

can like, you know, that will give you the positivity that

know, there are people who have been here and they have

exhibited from this darkness, so I can do

so sometimes like some of the self, like indie authors, some

of them we don't we don't we don't know that they're indie,

such as Stephen King. He's an in he started as an indie author.

But see, he's at a high position. So it's not just about

authors. It's about everything. Everybody starts at some point.

And every no one starting point is good. Yeah, I've been missing

the one have been in darkness. So in self doubt, they haven't

passed it. Yes, yes. And that is so important to, to shine light

on because so often we look at the people who are successful

artists today. And we think, Oh, they always had it easy. They

were born with this talent. And who am I to say that I'm going

to be good at it? No, they had to struggle. And they just

decided to keep pushing through it. And I think another point

is, is very important to mission mentioned is your, your mission.

So your mission, if I understood, right, it's not to

become famous and to earn a lot of money, and to drive big cars.

Your mission is to raise awareness and to help society be

more resilient to stress. And then beautiful side effect can

be the big car and the private jet one day, but it is not your

main drive. You wake up in the morning, and you think about how

can I help that kid over there that is struggling with anxiety?

How can I help the adult over there who's struggling with

depression? Right and that

takes maybe some some pressure off of it too because you know

you are serving society you're not being selfish and and that

very good to cling on. Yeah, it's a very good good. Yeah.

Mission to be on that. Now.

Yeah, it is definitely like something I think everybody

should have sort of because when you have good intentions, they

will good intentions like literally pave the pathway for

you and you can walk on it. So some part of it is like when I

see others going to

To the same thing I have been, but then they are not seeing it

in the same I have been. So sometimes I feel like, they're

going to go to the wrong part, they're going to take the wrong

part. So if I put a block over the wrong part, by my messages

by the thing I'm doing, then they may take the right path and

go to the path they're supposed to. Or they might lose

themselves.

Yes, that is very true. That is very true.

Now share with us, where can we connect with you? Are you more

on active on Facebook? Or on Instagram?

Where can we have a look at your book? Is that available online

somewhere?

Yes, my book is available on Amazon. So if somebody wants to

read it, or buy it, you can go on do that. And I'm mostly

active on Instagram, but I'm really active on all other

social media profiles as well. Because I try to keep up with

you know, the competition. So that like, you know, so in

order, you know, there are different audiences everywhere.

So, being active everywhere, lets me keep connect, keep

connected with people, different people, different people have

different views. So that helps. And yeah, I also I'm posting a

campaign a giveaway. So if you really feel like you want to

read that, you can go participate it on it. To my

Instagram account. Yes. Yes.

And is it under your name? Set up my here? Yeah.

Okay, it is under my name. But with official, so I like to put

that word as well. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that is so if you search for

me, you will find it. I will find it.

Now, last question for you. We would like to to hear one more

time, your mission and your vision? What is it that you

would like to see changing?

In the future? When you talk about stigma? maybe be a little

bit more specific there?

On what would what would you like to see in the future for

your generation.

So a lot of things actually, but then some things that are that

really stick to mind is how mental health is actually taking

nowadays, how people are not like people with mental health

issues, their issues are not taken into account when doing

something or deciding something, they so what I would like, is to

have your worlds where everything is taken into account

before coming into a contusion. So every one every single person

is included in it.

Because you know sometimes, because there's someone with a

problem, and then they're gonna be like, some people are like,

it's not like, they're bad. They're just, they just don't

know. They're, this is something. So sometimes they

feel like, that's not really important. Because let's not

take that into account because it's just one or two people that

doesn't really make make it a necessity. But it should be a

necessity because they are human too. Just because they're

destined number doesn't mean they don't exist, they do exist.

And they should be taken into account. So I would love

worlds where this is possible. This is happening.

Yeah, this is so beautiful. And you know what, when you when you

share this with me,

I think of people who commit crime, people who are violent.

And if they

you know, they're not born that way. They're not born criminals.

They're not born violent they become so they can unlearn this

again. And if there's people like you out there, showing them

that hey, you're on a wrong on a on a weird path right now, but

we can give you the tools to feel better, and to belong to

society again, there's less likelihood of them becoming more

criminal and more violent. Do you feel the same about this?

Yeah, yes, I do. And I know a lot of people don't agree with

this thing. But I have been trying. I have talked about this

before, and I've gotten like, you know, people who didn't

agree, because what I think is that no one is at

should be bad. No, everybody is bad and good. They have done a

good, good thing about them. But then maybe it's so like, you

know, tiny and amount that it's overlapped by the bad they have.

So if if there is there are people who are willing to help

them, they can increase that goodness and overlap that bad.

With that good thing. Everybody has some kind of good thing in

them. If you try, you can find it. Yes, this is one thing I

always like to see, from a different perspective, no matter

what the thing is, I like to view it from a different

perspective, something that is not the perspective that is not

common. So that sometimes, you know, they might have thought it

this way and gone to this way. So maybe this is why they're

wrong. So we can tell them that this is not how you're supposed

to go.

So a lot of people think that no, they just knew this was

going to happen. But they still decided to do it. Sometimes it's

not like that. Sometimes it's like they viewed it in a

different way. And then

they just landed into a wrong part. without even noticing.

Yes, yes. Very, very wise, and precious words that you're

sharing with us here like I'm so, so blessed to to have met

you. And I'm so grateful that there is young people like you

out there, fighting for the good and shining the light on stuff

that most people don't like to look at and like to push away.

But we have to learn to Yeah, include mental health, mental

well being into our lives a little more. And then we can be

more sensitive with the people around us and build more

resilient societies and, and your mission and your vision is

clearly needed all around the world at this moment, not only

in Bangladesh, not only in Malaysia, or Canada, but around

the globe. So I'm wishing you all the best on your journey.

I'm very happy to stay connected with you. And to share this

episode around with you. Thank you so much for reaching out to

me and for letting me ask you all these questions.

Thank you, you to YouTube for having me today. And to all

those listener out there, putting attention and listening

to me. Thanks a lot. This means a lot. Yes, it means a lot to me

to thank you so so much.

Thank you.

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