1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,240 How to listen, hear, and validate. Break   2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:08,960 through invisible barriers and  transform your relationships. 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:15,280 Written by Patrick King.  Narrated by Russell Newton. 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:19,120 Picture a couple having a discussion  one day, that quickly turns heated. 5 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,000 It goes a little something like this - 6 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:27,680 A - “So the doctor called and they  have the results from my test back…” 7 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,880 B - “Oh my god, so what was the result?” 8 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:36,560 A - “Well, they said everything’s clear. 9 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,040 The first test was just a fluke, apparently. 10 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,760 There’s nothing to worry about.” 11 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,240 B - “What?! 12 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:44,400 That’s amazing! 13 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,080 I’m so glad to hear that! 14 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,400 You must be so relieved…” 15 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:53,000 A - “Well, actually, I don’t know…” 16 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,160 B - “You’re not relieved?” 17 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:00,040 A - “It’s hard to explain. 18 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,880 I guess I’m a bit…disappointed? 19 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:04,560 That sounds strange. 20 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,280 But I was really kind of expecting a scary result. 21 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,480 And I almost feel a bit let down? 22 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,040 I know that sounds silly…” 23 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,320 B - “That is silly. 24 00:01:15,320 --> 00:01:16,600 You’re crazy. 25 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,360 You have no idea how lucky you are. 26 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,320 We should go out to celebrate.” 27 00:01:21,320 --> 00:01:24,920 A - “Uh, can we not? 28 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,840 I’m just not feeling it…” 29 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,080 B - “What’s wrong with you? 30 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:31,760 You’re being ridiculous. 31 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,840 You don’t mean to say you  wish the test was positive? 32 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,400 That’s crazy…” 33 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,920 And so on. 34 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:46,040 Can you imagine A continuing to try and explain  how they really felt, with B rejecting the whole   35 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:53,720 idea as bizarre, or even getting a little angry  and judging A for not being grateful or excited? 36 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:58,540 Consider how the conversation  could have gone otherwise - 37 00:01:58,540 --> 00:02:04,760 A - “So the doctor called and they  have the results from my test back…” 38 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:09,320 B - “Oh my god, so what was the result?” 39 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:13,680 A - “Well, they said everything’s clear. 40 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,680 The first test was just a fluke, apparently. 41 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,560 There’s nothing to worry about.” 42 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,000 B - “What?! 43 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:21,840 That’s amazing! 44 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,040 I’m so glad to hear that! 45 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,520 You must be so relieved…” 46 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:31,440 A - “Well, actually, I don’t know…” 47 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,040 B - “You’re not relieved?” 48 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,960 A - “It’s hard to explain. 49 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,920 I guess I’m a bit…disappointed? 50 00:02:40,920 --> 00:02:42,120 That sounds strange. 51 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,080 But I was really kind of expecting a scary result. 52 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,160 And I almost feel a bit let down? 53 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,240 I know that sounds silly…” 54 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,960 B - “No, it’s not silly. 55 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,160 Can you explain what you mean? 56 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:02,640 I’m pretty relieved to hear you’re  OK, but you seem a little unsure…” 57 00:03:02,640 --> 00:03:11,640 A - “Yeah, I don’t know…maybe I had already  mentally prepared myself for it being positive…” 58 00:03:11,640 --> 00:03:15,960 B - “Tell me more.” 59 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:21,200 Imagine the conversation then moving on  to A explaining how they feel and why,   60 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:27,080 with B listening closely, not so they  could argue against A’s feelings,   61 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:32,920 but so they could better understand and  support them, even if they did seem strange. 62 00:03:32,920 --> 00:03:36,400 What’s the difference in the second conversation? 63 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,880 The answer is validation. 64 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:46,520 In this book, we’re going to be looking at the  power of validation - what it is, what it isn’t,   65 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:54,480 and how it can be used to deepen relationships,  grow empathy and improve communication. 66 00:03:54,480 --> 00:04:00,080 Validation is something that seems easy to  understand conceptually, but can be subtle   67 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,600 and difficult to grasp in real life. 68 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:10,680 In trying to understand what validation is,  it can be helpful to look at what it isn’t. 69 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,800 In the first conversation,  B’s attitude was dismissive. 70 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,320 By calling A silly, crazy, and ridiculous,   71 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:25,760 the message was clear - the way that A felt  (and by extension, A themselves) was wrong. 72 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:33,240 In fact, B asks, “What’s wrong with you?”  and then proceeds to say how A should feel. 73 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:39,160 Granted, this is an extreme example (B  is definitely a jerk in this scenario!),   74 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,800 but we can clearly see the spirit of invalidation. 75 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:48,080 When we invalidate someone,  we deny their experience. 76 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:54,560 We contradict them, undermine them, doubt  them, disagree with them or judge them. 77 00:04:54,560 --> 00:05:02,400 We tell them that what they feel or perceive  is wrong, mistaken, useless, undesirable. 78 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:09,080 We tell them that what they are going through is  not really justifiable, legitimate or “logical." 79 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:15,160 Sometimes, we may act as though the way they  feel is in violation of some objective reality,   80 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,880 and they should be ashamed of their feelings. 81 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:26,800 To sum it up, invalidation is about not  accepting the person in front of us, as they are. 82 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:32,880 When we invalidate someone, what we might  be responding to is their emotional reality,   83 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,840 their thoughts, speech, behavior, beliefs,   84 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:44,360 perspectives or ideas—but in the process we may  more or less invalidate them as individuals. 85 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:52,880 There’s a fine line between saying “your reaction  is too much” and saying “you are too much.” 86 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,720 It may seem like invalidation is  quite an aggressive thing to do,   87 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,160 but in reality, invalidations can be small,   88 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:07,720 subtle, and even take place under the guise  of genuine concern or an attempt to help. 89 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:12,360 For example, many parents will tell a  frightened child not to be so silly,   90 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,760 and that there’s nothing to be scared about. 91 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:22,040 Though they intend to help, the message  the child hears is “you’re wrong somehow." 92 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:28,320 If they shouldn’t be scared, but they  are, what does that say about them? 93 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:35,120 Likewise, consider these small, yet  nevertheless invalidating statements - 94 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,880 “You like mayonnaise with your fries? 95 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,120 Weird.” 96 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,600 “Hey, don’t take it so personally!” 97 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,280 “You’re upset about your stressful job? 98 00:06:46,280 --> 00:06:52,040 What about people who don’t even have  jobs—how do you think that makes them feel?” 99 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:57,120 “You’re not being reasonable  right now, calm down.” 100 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:03,880 “Lots of people say they don’t want kids—but  you’ll change your mind, just wait!” 101 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:08,080 Though we’ve all been the recipients of  statements like the ones above—or maybe   102 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:15,640 said things like this to others—it’s difficult  to pinpoint just how invalidating they can be. 103 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,080 What’s missing in the above sentiments? 104 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,920 What makes them feel so bad to hear? 105 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:27,120 In the chapters that follow, we’ll understand  validation as the act of acknowledging and   106 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:35,680 accepting another person’s experience, i.e.  communicating that it is inherently valid. 107 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,920 Validation doesn’t mean we agree  with the other person, or like   108 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,800 what they are experiencing, or even understand it. 109 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:50,560 But it does mean we recognize that their  experience has the right to exist as it is. 110 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:56,680 If we see someone is angry, we could try to  push back against the anger, argue with it,   111 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:05,600 deny it or avoid it; or, we could acknowledge that  the person is angry, and that’s the way it is. 112 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:11,400 Many people struggle with giving validation  because they genuinely cannot see the point. 113 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,600 If someone is having a different  internal experience to them,   114 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,960 or their perceptions don’t match with  what they consider “objective reality,”   115 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:25,840 they seem to forget about the need to  be compassionate, understanding or kind. 116 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:32,080 Imagine, for example, that Jeremy has started to  hear voices that aren’t there, and he’s petrified. 117 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:36,920 He talks to a close friend about his concerns,  but the friend immediately tells him that the   118 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:43,080 voices aren’t there, he knows they  aren’t there, so what’s the problem? 119 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:48,840 The friend may start to talk about medications  to get the voices to go away, but in his own way,   120 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:55,040 he tells Jeremy that being afraid of  imaginary voices doesn’t actually make sense. 121 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,280 Now imagine that Jeremy  goes to a different friend. 122 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:03,640 He shares his concerns and this friend  looks not at what’s real and not real,   123 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:09,760 what’s a reasonable reaction and what  isn’t, but how Jeremy is actually feeling. 124 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:14,720 They tell him that being afraid  is normal and understandable. 125 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,520 In other words, the objective facts of his   126 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:24,200 experience are not as important as  his internal, subjective experience. 127 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:29,360 The first friend invalidated this  experience, whereas the second validated it. 128 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,880 People who are quite practically minded  may have trouble with the concept of   129 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:39,760 validation because it seems more natural  for them to look for obvious solutions,   130 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:45,520 to gather data, to identify problems  in the “real world” and fix them. 131 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:50,480 They may mistakenly think that validation  means agreeing with something that’s wrong,   132 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:55,880 or doing nothing to actually remedy the problem. 133 00:09:55,880 --> 00:10:00,920 But validation is an important and  necessary part of human communication,   134 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:06,640 even if it is not focused on  verifying or solving an issue. 135 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:11,400 When we focus only on “facts,” we may  miss the emotional content—which is   136 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:17,000 often one of the more important reasons  for communicating in the first place. 137 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,880 Most of us like to think we  are empathic and understanding,   138 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:27,320 but mastering real validation can take some  practice, and we all miss the mark sometimes. 139 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,280 After all, who hasn’t tried to “cheer  up” a friend when they felt down,   140 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:37,920 reassuring them that things weren’t really so bad? 141 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:42,160 Why Validation Is So Important 142 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:48,680 All human beings want to feel that they are,  at their core, acceptable, even lovable. 143 00:10:48,680 --> 00:10:51,720 We all want to feel that other people see us,   144 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:57,080 acknowledge who we are, and  generally find us to have value. 145 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:03,960 When you practice the art of validation, you  learn how to give this experience to others. 146 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:08,000 When we validate people, we accept  them for who they really are. 147 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:14,320 What better way to be a good  friend, partner or parent? 148 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,720 When you validate someone,  you give them real support,   149 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,440 letting them know that they are not alone. 150 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:27,160 Life can be confusing and difficult for all  of us, but when we are genuinely validated,   151 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:34,600 we can feel reassured that we are on the  right path, and that our experience is normal. 152 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:40,080 Willpower is great, but any single  person only has so much of it. 153 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,640 Haven’t you felt stronger  and more capable when you   154 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:47,000 had the support of many other people behind you? 155 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:52,120 Picture someone who is working really hard  to overcome a food addiction and lose weight. 156 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,200 They may feel completely defeated and alone when,   157 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:59,560 months later, nobody has  even noticed their progress. 158 00:11:59,560 --> 00:12:04,440 On the other hand, having work colleagues  check in regularly, acknowledge the hard   159 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:12,320 journey they’re on, and even recognize the  results can make it so much easier to carry on. 160 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:18,680 In today’s world, people are arguably more  isolated and divided than ever before,   161 00:12:18,680 --> 00:12:23,400 with many having little to draw on  in terms of family or community. 162 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:27,600 But if we don’t have fellow human beings  to accompany us through life’s challenges,   163 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:33,760 to acknowledge our presence and even enjoy  it, to reflect back to us who we are and the   164 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:40,960 effect of our actions—well, we can soon start  to feel like we don’t really exist at all. 165 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,600 You can probably remember a time  when someone paid you a really   166 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:51,920 thoughtful compliment about who you were as  a person, and how great it made you feel. 167 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:56,760 Compare that to the crushing sense  of alienation you have when a person   168 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:03,840 you thought knew you well buys you a  completely bizarre gift that you hate! 169 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:09,640 Of course, it’s not just about how many people  are in your life; without real validation and   170 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:17,000 acceptance, it’s possible to feel completely  alone and unseen in a room full of people. 171 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,720 We may feel lost or out of  place, even in our own families,   172 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:26,160 or like foreigners even in our own countries. 173 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:31,720 An absence of genuine validation is behind  someone who, after twenty years of marriage,   174 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:39,200 can look at their spouse and say,  “I have no idea who you even are.” 175 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:45,240 Being seen and heard, on the other hand,  gives life a solidity and a sense of meaning. 176 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:50,240 It adds richness, color and depth to our days. 177 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,320 When others witness and confirm our experience,   178 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:58,640 it’s as though it becomes more  real and manageable for us. 179 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:04,880 If you can learn to really see and validate  people as they are, you are simultaneously   180 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:11,560 giving them and yourself a wonderful gift  that’s in pretty short supply in today’s world. 181 00:14:11,560 --> 00:14:15,840 When we are validated, we feel  more resilient to life’s problems,   182 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,280 and can regulate our emotions more effectively. 183 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:23,760 We feel like ourselves; when  others see and acknowledge us,   184 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:32,040 it is as confirming to our identity as looking  into a mirror and seeing an image look back at us. 185 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:37,400 Through others’ sincere response,  we learn about who we are. 186 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:43,680 We see them react to us, care for us,  listen to us, and in so doing it seems   187 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:50,760 like our persona takes shape, and we can  see the outlines of ourselves more clearly. 188 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,800 It goes a little deeper, too. 189 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,760 When we validate someone,   190 00:14:54,760 --> 00:15:00,720 we not only see the person in front  of us, but accept them, completely. 191 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,720 We communicate, with our nonjudgmental attention,   192 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:09,880 that they are worth knowing,  and they are important. 193 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:14,600 Even if we don’t fully comprehend what  it’s like to be in another person’s shoes,   194 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:21,640 it’s still wonderful to show that we  care enough to try and comprehend it. 195 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:26,240 Many parents, for example, cannot really  get inside their teenage children’s heads,   196 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:30,760 but sometimes all that’s needed is  for that teenager to feel that their   197 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:36,960 mom or dad cares enough to make  the effort in the first place. 198 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:41,720 This isn’t to say that validation is only  beneficial for the person receiving it. 199 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:47,120 When validation flows from one  person to another, both benefit. 200 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:55,200 The shared relationship instantly becomes  more authentic, more trusting and more honest. 201 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,240 When people feel seen and accepted,   202 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:03,000 they are more able to return the kindness  to others, strengthening those connections. 203 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:08,120 In fact, there may now be evidence  that being validated by someone   204 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:14,200 can literally cause changes in the  neurotransmitters released in your brain. 205 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:18,720 Validation is about affirming  someone else’s emotional reality,   206 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:24,080 but it’s also about recognizing that they  live in a completely different world to you,   207 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:28,600 and inhabit a perspective  entirely separate from your own. 208 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:33,920 If you can undertake any conversation with the  spirit of validation, you are able to respect   209 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:40,080 and honor the fact that the other person  is not you, and doesn’t think like you. 210 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,520 Validation encourages deeper understanding. 211 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,960 Not only will this make you a better communicator,   212 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:53,960 but it will expand your world view, and you  may even learn something in the process. 213 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:58,920 Isn’t Validation The Same As Empathy? 214 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,880 In reading about the virtues and  benefits of practicing validation,   215 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:07,840 you might have wondered whether it’s the same  thing as simply being kind and compassionate. 216 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:12,760 In many ways, these concepts  do overlap to some degree. 217 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:18,040 A person with good validation skills may  on the surface be indistinguishable from   218 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:24,800 someone who is empathetic, nonjudgmental, or  simply skilled at showing interest in others. 219 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,560 But there are differences. 220 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:32,160 Showing sympathy is acknowledging  someone else’s experience,   221 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,920 but as seen through our own frame of reference. 222 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:40,120 For example, knowing that someone  else is nervous giving a speech   223 00:17:40,120 --> 00:17:44,560 because you yourself would be  anxious doing the same thing. 224 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:51,520 Showing empathy is looking inside someone else’s  experiences and feeling what that feels like,   225 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:56,040 from that person’s point  of view, and not your own. 226 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,320 For example, you can imagine  what it feels like to be the   227 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:05,760 person terrified of giving a speech even  though you yourself love public speaking. 228 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,400 Showing validation, however,  is a little different. 229 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:14,640 This is where we communicate that we have  seen or heard the other person’s experience,   230 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,640 and that it has inherent validity. 231 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:21,400 So, we can listen to our friend  telling us how scared they are to   232 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:27,240 give their speech and acknowledge  it, and take that at face value. 233 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,160 Our own feelings on public  speaking don’t matter at all,   234 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:36,360 and in fact, nobody else’s opinion matters either. 235 00:18:36,360 --> 00:18:40,400 When we acknowledge the inherent  validity of someone else’s experience,   236 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:45,320 we are doing something a little  different from having empathy. 237 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:51,280 When we are sympathetic or empathetic,  we are shifting or expanding frames of   238 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,160 reference to better understand  another person’s experience. 239 00:18:55,160 --> 00:19:02,560 But with validation, we take their experience  as the only frame of reference that matters. 240 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:08,000 Someone’s feelings or thoughts might not  be pleasant, or sensical, or popular,   241 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,760 or permissible, or even understandable. 242 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:17,520 But they are nevertheless valid,  because they are there, and they exist. 243 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:25,160 As you can see, it’s a subtle point that can make  rather a large difference when put into practice. 244 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:30,200 Empathy can often lead people to  feel validated, but not necessarily. 245 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:34,760 For example, someone might feel very sorry  for a friend who is having difficulties,   246 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:42,800 and empathize completely, while still believing  that their experience is not completely valid—i.e. 247 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:48,960 “I genuinely feel bad for you, but I  still think you’re just overreacting." 248 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:57,200 We’ll explore how to combine empathy  and validation later on in the book. 249 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:03,680 Validation—one Of The  Clearest Ways To Express Care 250 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:08,120 There’s the stereotypical argument that is  said to occasionally unfold between men and   251 00:20:08,120 --> 00:20:12,880 women - the woman may be upset about  something, and tells the man about it,   252 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,160 who then proceeds to try and  find ways to fix the problem,   253 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:22,680 despite the woman claiming over and  over, “I just want you to listen!” 254 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,280 Validation has a big role to  play in validating negative   255 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:31,120 feelings or supporting those experiencing stress. 256 00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:36,960 Psychologists originally explored its power  in helping people who feel suicidal or deeply   257 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:42,320 distressed, but soon put the principle of  validation at the center of all their work. 258 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,320 After all, when people seek mental health care,   259 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:50,760 they are often simply seeking  comfort and reassurance. 260 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,800 Researchers Tian, Solomon  and Brisini at Penn State   261 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:59,080 University published a 2020 paper  in the Journal of Communication   262 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:05,640 describing how validation can be used to  improve our normal ways of comforting people. 263 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:10,000 They found that the language people  use can have a massive impact. 264 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:18,320 For example, most people don’t respond well to  being told (subtly or not so subtly) how to feel. 265 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:22,920 For example, most of us bristle  at platitudes like “there there,   266 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:28,760 don’t cry now” or “come on,  try to look at the good side." 267 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:35,360 Instead, it may be more effective to simply  enquire about how the person actually is feeling,   268 00:21:35,360 --> 00:21:39,960 rather than telling them to feel some other way. 269 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:44,360 This way, they can express themselves  and reach their own conclusions,   270 00:21:44,360 --> 00:21:48,920 deciding for themselves what action to take next. 271 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:53,760 The authors also found that it’s best to  avoid language that minimizes feelings. 272 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:58,880 For example, if someone has just confided in  you that they are feeling severely depressed,   273 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,960 it’s obviously not a good idea  to shake it off as “the blues”   274 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,760 and tell them they just need a good night’s sleep. 275 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,040 It’s true that these comments  may come from a good place,   276 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,160 but they could actually have the opposite effect. 277 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:17,480 If someone feels judged,  controlled, ignored or ridiculed,   278 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:25,160 they’ll obviously feel less inclined to  take the help offered, even if it’s sincere. 279 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:31,320 The trouble is that these sorts of comments may  well have been beneficial in another context. 280 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:36,640 Offering advice or helpful suggestions is  usually just people’s way of trying to be useful. 281 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:41,640 They may indeed be very skilled communicators  and have the best of intentions. 282 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:48,240 But, importantly, validation is not  like other communication techniques. 283 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:53,360 The purpose and outcome of validation  is completely different to, say,   284 00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:57,840 offering advice or giving helpful feedback. 285 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:03,960 To return to the stereotypical argument we began  with, the man might say (quite rightly) that he   286 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:09,600 is attempting to help, that his solution would  work, and that the woman is being ridiculous by   287 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:15,360 continuing to be upset when a perfectly  good solution is right in front of her. 288 00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:19,200 But the woman might say (quite  rightly) that she hasn’t asked   289 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:25,920 for advice or problem-solving; she  wants comfort, that is, validation. 290 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:31,480 In a way, validation digs a little deeper  than most communication skills and techniques,   291 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,800 and gets to the heart of our emotional experience. 292 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:42,040 You can be an excellent listener, compassionate,  intelligent and great at offering useful advice,   293 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:48,280 but none of it matters if what  is needed is direct validation. 294 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,840 So, we’ve seen the kind of  things we shouldn’t say,   295 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:55,600 but what do you say to someone  to validate their experience? 296 00:23:55,600 --> 00:24:01,080 Remember, when we provide validation, we  are communicating that someone’s experience,   297 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,960 and they themselves, are inherently valid. 298 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,880 So, we can use phrases like - 299 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,040 •“It’s understandable you’d feel that way.” 300 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,120 •“Yes, that makes sense. 301 00:24:10,120 --> 00:24:12,680 I can see why you say that.” 302 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,360 •“It’s perfectly normal that you think that.” 303 00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:20,120 •“I’m sorry that you’re  having a hard time with this.” 304 00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:24,080 •“Can you tell me more about how you’re feeling?” 305 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:28,880 •“I can see why you feel XYZ. ” 306 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,080 When validating someone, sometimes the best thing   307 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:38,400 we can do for them is to simply create a  little space for them to be as they are. 308 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,200 Often, we’re compelled to  jump in and say something,   309 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:47,760 anything, but that’s just because  we ourselves are uncomfortable. 310 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,960 It’s possible to communicate a great  deal of compassion and acceptance   311 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:58,320 with simple sounds like “uh-huh” and  “mmm” or simply listening and nodding. 312 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,920 This way, you are lavishing your  full attention of the other person,   313 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:09,320 without trying to push your own interpretation. 314 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,200 Validation rests on centering the other person. 315 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:19,920 This means that the person and their experience  are the priority—and other people’s opinions,   316 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:26,800 society’s expectations, judgments,  and criticisms are set aside. 317 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:31,960 To center someone means to acknowledge  that the individual themselves is the   318 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,600 ultimate authority on their own inner experience. 319 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,160 So, if they express that they are  feeling scared even though it looks   320 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:45,080 to you and everyone else like anger, you  take their word for it and assume that yes,   321 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:52,840 in their internal experience, they are scared. 322 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:58,480 Validating The Right Way And In The Right Moment 323 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,080 Is validation always the right approach? 324 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,040 Are there some things we shouldn’t validate? 325 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,720 For example, should you really validate someone’s   326 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:13,320 experience if they are talking about or  planning harm to themselves or others? 327 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:17,640 On a less serious note, should you  validate someone’s complaint—when   328 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:22,080 it’s the fiftieth complaint you’ve  already heard from them that day? 329 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,160 Do you have to validate someone’s experience when,   330 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:31,920 to be frank, you’re exhausted and you’d  rather they didn’t dump it all on you? 331 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:38,080 Validation can indeed have unintended  consequences, and isn’t a cure-all. 332 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:44,160 There are times when this strategy is less  appropriate, and may even have negative outcomes. 333 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:49,200 Validation is undoubtedly one of the best  relationship and communication tools,   334 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,480 but it shouldn’t be used with  everyone, in every event. 335 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,920 We still need to carefully evaluate the situation,   336 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:02,920 observe the consequences of our  actions and adapt accordingly. 337 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:07,160 Though we don’t have the scope to  explore the topic of narcissism or   338 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,600 personality disorders fully in this  book, it’s worth mentioning that we   339 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:18,560 should proceed with caution when a person has  a seemingly bottomless need for validation. 340 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:24,400 Narcissists lack self-awareness or the ability  to empathize, and will typically be unable   341 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:32,000 to connect meaningfully with you, no matter  how much or how genuinely you validate them. 342 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:39,440 They might soak up validation and demand more and  more, trampling your boundaries in the process. 343 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:45,560 You might quickly find yourself embroiled  in an unhealthy or codependent dynamic. 344 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,560 Does this mean you should never  validate a narcissist’s experience? 345 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:50,840 Of course not. 346 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,600 It just means you need to be a little  more careful with how you do so,   347 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,120 while respecting your own needs and boundaries. 348 00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:04,560 Since all human beings need and deserve  validation, there’s nobody who should be   349 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:13,200 denied it—but whether you should be the person to  give it in any one moment is for you to decide. 350 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:20,120 Validation is almost always a good thing, with the  caveat that it is sometimes not enough on its own. 351 00:28:20,120 --> 00:28:26,760 With this in mind, there are a  few red flags to watch out for - 352 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:34,960 Red flag 1 - Aggressive,  illegal or inappropriate acts 353 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:39,960 Perhaps someone confesses to you  something bad they’ve done, or plan to do. 354 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,960 Perhaps someone is being  threatening and unreasonable. 355 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:49,120 There’s no reason why you cannot listen,  validate their experience, and ask questions. 356 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,840 There’s no reason not to have compassion. 357 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:58,040 However, validation on its own is  dangerously close to being complicit. 358 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:05,160 Use understanding and compassion, but try to  get the other person to take beneficial action,   359 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:11,840 or, in extreme cases, alert authorities yourself. 360 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:17,440 Red flag 2 - Energy vampires 361 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,840 We all feel vulnerable sometimes,  and need validation and support. 362 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:26,720 But if you’re dealing with someone who wants to  sap the life out of you constantly while never   363 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:32,200 taking any concrete steps to help themselves,  you may need to tighten up your boundaries. 364 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:38,720 Validation is great, but you may actually  help them more by saying, “That sounds tough. 365 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,840 What are you going to do about it?” 366 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:48,200 Red flag 3 - Someone seeking advice or clarity 367 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,040 Validation always feels good. 368 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:55,600 But sometimes, what really puts a person’s  mind at ease is knowledge and understanding. 369 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,880 If someone is anxious about a performance  review at work, for example, it might be   370 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:04,600 more appropriate to stay professional and  address their actual concerns with facts   371 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:10,800 and grounded reassurance, rather than  focusing on their emotional reality. 372 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,800 Depending on the person or the situation,   373 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:18,320 being told “I’m so sorry you’re worried about  your performance review” doesn’t feel as good   374 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:25,360 as being told “you’re performing in the upper  third of your class, don’t worry, you’re fine." 375 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,240 In truth, there’s very little harm to be done   376 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,600 when all you’re doing is listening and  accepting the person in front of you. 377 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:37,240 Nevertheless, it’s worth asking  “is this helping?” periodically   378 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:44,120 and adapting according to your honest answer. 379 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,840 Summary 380 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:52,360 •When we validate someone, we convey our  acceptance of that person’s experiences,   381 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,680 emotions, thoughts, and realities. 382 00:30:55,680 --> 00:31:03,680 Conversely, when we invalidate someone, we deny or  minimize the importance of their issues and needs. 383 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,880 Though validation is a common word these days,   384 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:11,800 it’s not always clear how best to  or even why we should engage in it. 385 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:16,960 The fact is that every person’s  experience is inherently valid   386 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:21,760 and instead of exercising judgement, we  should try and accept people as they are. 387 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:27,920 However, acceptance must not  be confused with agreement. 388 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,760 •The concept of validation is especially  relevant in our present age because of   389 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,680 how socially isolated we are as individuals. 390 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,280 Validating someone is a way of  expressing solidarity with them,   391 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,040 and makes the other person  feel heard and understood. 392 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:50,560 It adds a richness and sense of ease to life  that would otherwise be missing if we felt   393 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:58,000 that we have to go through life’s travails  alone and without anyone else’s support. 394 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:03,240 •Many people tend to confuse  sympathy, empathy, and validation,   395 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:08,360 and there is indeed significant  overlap between the three concepts. 396 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,960 However, sympathy is when we see other’s   397 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:15,400 experiences through our own  lens and react accordingly. 398 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:23,160 When empathizing, we try to relate to other’s  experiences the way they are experiencing them. 399 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,840 Lastly, validation is merely expressing  your belief that someone else’s   400 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:33,960 experience is inherently valid. 401 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:39,840 •It’s natural to wonder to what extent  and how often we should validate others. 402 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:45,560 We can’t always validate things, especially  when doing so could have adverse effects. 403 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:52,640 For example, validating someone’s aggressive and  potentially dangerous behavior is a bad idea. 404 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:57,600 Similarly, we must be wary of energy  vampire who suck the life out of you   405 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:05,640 by endlessly complaining without taking any  concrete steps to ameliorate their situation. 406 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:10,920 Lastly, giving unsolicited  advice is generally unadvisable,   407 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:15,160 but if someone is actively  looking for guidance from you,   408 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:23,200 substituting it with validation isn’t a good  idea because it isn’t serving any purpose. 409 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,600 This has been How to Listen,   410 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:32,080 Hear and Validate. Break through invisible  barriers and transform your relationships. 411 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:37,240 Written by Patrick King. Narrated  by Russell Newton. Copyright 2021   412 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:47,960 by Patrick King. Production  Copyright by Patrick King.