Welcome back to the Maya Games.
KELSEYWe're back and we're done. This is the last episode of this 11 part series, 2026, the cosmic context. I'm recording this intro on the day that I'm releasing this final episode out into the world, which is Wednesday, March 11, which is a significant day in general. It feels especially significant for me. The collective significance that I'm thinking about when I say significant in general is that Jupiter stationed direct last night just before 8:30pm Pacific Time. So many of us went to bed at the station or right before the station and woke up to a direct Jupiter exalted in the 15th degree of cancer, right in the middle of its sign of exaltation. And I say it feels especially significant for me in part because I'm a Jupiter ruled being Sagittarius rising and I'm in a Jupiter year. I'm in the last couple of weeks of my Jupiter, my first house Jupiter year. And even more specifically significant for me is that today is my Venus return. Venus will exact transit, Venus will exact conjunct my natal Venus in the early afternoon here in Pacific time today, Wednesday March 11th. And yeah, something that felt notable to me about the timing of this episode on Venus in 2026 that I recorded with Amalia is that we recorded it when Venus was right around the middle of Pisces. She was at 16 Pisces. We recorded this over two weeks ago on February 23rd. And it felt similar to me in my process of recording it and then being with it and then releasing it. It felt similar to the texture, the shape, the feeling, the quality of time. The Kairos timeline of the Saturn episode where Aleeyah and I recorded with Saturn in the energetic degree of Pisces. And then the next day it moved into Aries and I released the Saturn episode once Saturn was already in in Aries, had been for a week or so. And yeah, I send you this episode today if you happen to be listening in real time with Venus at 6 degrees Aries, which again is my Venus return. So there's like this benefic relevance with the Jupiter station direct and with Venus return being significant for me, both of them being very significant for me in personal ways that are accompanying this final push, this final release of this episode that has taken up so much of my last two months. The last two months of my life have really in large part been dedicated to this project. I mean entirely, pretty much entirely my work life has been dedicated to this project for the last two months. And perhaps I'll say more about that in a moment. But specific to this episode and what I was just mentioning, with the kind of similar Kairos rhythm to the Saturn episode, with both of them being recorded when those planets were in Pisces and both being released once they shifted into Aries. For both of those conversations, it really felt like there was some kind of
AMALIAdeep
KELSEYcalibration, deep reception attunement to something so vast and pervasive and swelling almost to the point of bursting, and yet subtle and intangible. And that complex, steeped calibration that was present in the Saturn episode and in this episode feels like a timeless primordial toner to what these planets are about this year. Yo, am I making any sense? That made sense to me. Let me try to get more direct. Venus is now in Aries. Aries direct capabilities activate. Yeah, I actually don't think this episode needs that much framing. Amalia and I went on a beautiful journey together in this episode. We frame it. We didn't know what was going to happen. And I guess the framing I'll give you is that it's kind of bookended with some really just beautiful conceptualizations of what Venus is and how we attune to her and how we can access her support and how even when we don't know we're accessing her support, she's here supporting us. Love is here the whole time. Resource is here always. And it's through presence, through embodiment, through relation, through connection, through trust that we access these things. And yeah, there's some really. Just when I listened to this conversation, it was the medicine that I needed. The last few weeks have been really hard. Maybe the last few months, maybe. Yeah. And I feel something shifting right now as I complete this project, as I have my Venus return as Jupiter stations, direct as we wane away from this eclipse period at the beginning of the year. And yeah, ahead of working on the release of this episode yesterday, I had been connecting with Amalia, and both Amalia and I had been feeling in some pretty deep grief. And then when I started listening to our conversation from over two weeks ago, I was like, oh, holy shit. This is the exact medicine that we needed for our deep grief that we're both in right now. And it's our own medicine. Like, this conversation emerged through each of us. And, I mean, I'll speak for myself. I couldn't even remember the conversation. It felt. I started to remember it as I listened to it, but much of it felt kind of far away and different from me, even though it was only two weeks ago. And even though I spoke it, and even though as I listened to it, it was coming back to me. It was like coming back to me in a. That was like, I was a different person when we had this conversation. And I think that's part of the quality that I'm trying to describe with the Venus and Saturn episodes being recorded, like the transmission being this talisman for the Pisces feeling of that planet. And for both these episodes, by the time I listened back to them, when the planets had ingressed into Aries, I felt different. Like, I could. It was hard for me to feel the connection to the self that had captured the essence of Pisces Venus and Pisces Saturn. I felt on the other side of something. I felt different. And so, yeah, it was a really interesting experience this time around to connect to the Venusian medicine, the Venus in Pisces medicine that Amalia and I came across together, that we facilitated together, that we cast together, that we cooked up in the cauldron together during this convo. And anyways, I'm getting lost in my bad metaphors, but I think the point I was coming to that what I wanted to share was that it was interesting to observe yesterday, Amalia and I trading some notes on some really deep grief we've been in. And then me returning to this conversation and realizing that the conversation we'd already had two weeks ago was like the medicine that I needed and was medicine that I told Amalia they needed for themself, based on what I had understood about their current period of grief. And that does kind of, I think, speak to the spirit of one of the places that we landed on what Venus is about this year. Like, we have to go through it. The relief, the love, the blessing, the balm, the softness, the comfort. All these Venusian themes, they exist in relation to the challenge. They exist in relation to the Mars, the Saturn, the hard. And that's how we're gonna find Venus this year in relation to the hard. Malia and I both have malefic ruled Venuses mine with Venus. I have Venus in Aries, and Amalia has Venus in Capricorn. And, yeah, I think our practice with Venus being ruled by maleficence really has resourced us to be able to collaborate with each other and with the Venus in Pisces exaltation influence that was holding us during this conversation, to be able to craft this perspective, this transmission, this talisman for Venus support throughout the transmutational and malefically influenced year of 2026 coming back to that framing that I said this conversation didn't need, but then started to offer, I mentioned there's bookends in the conversation. The whole first hour in the last, maybe, I don't know, 20 or 30 minutes are really conceptual attuning to Venus in general. And the middle section, maybe like, I don't know, close to an hour in length, is us going through Venus in the year linearly and kind of technically, which we didn't plan to do and we didn't prepare to do. But I think the combination of those three sort of steps of our conversation and the way that each informed the other ended up creating this really beautiful weaving of poetic, somatic, energetic attunement to Venus, to grace, to comfort, to relief, to connection and love with this more mercurial, intellectual, math time oriented perspective on the year. And yeah, one informed the other and it felt like such a beautiful way to tie up this series. And yeah, to just return to that sentiment, I want to say thank you to listeners for tuning into this conversation series, which I just, I merged with it, it merged with me, it shaped the whole beginning of my 2026. I felt attuned by these conversations. I feel like the planets and their influence and my conversation partners all. I feel like I received a calibration to the year. That's what I feel like happened to me as initiator, vessel, motorized throat conduit for this project. And I hope, but I trust is maybe a more honest word for how I feel. I trust that you received that calibration too, or that you're receiving it now in whatever order or aspect of the series you might be tuning into. I'm gonna request for a final time now, at least final time inside of this series that you reach out and touch me with your conscious awareness of the impact of the resourcing of the calibration of this work, of this project. If you feel compelled, if you consent to, if you want to materialize your connection to me and to this work. There are so many ways to do that. Please rate the podcast Please write a review if you're listening on Apple Podcasts, please leave a comment. 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And the seed I want to plant is just perhaps if now's not the time, maybe there's a moment throughout the year where you do have a conscious moment of realization of the unfolding impact as you integrate what you processed here with me and with my conversation partners and through this invocation of the planets this year. So yeah, if that thought comes up in passing, if you register in another time the impact of this project and you feel that impact rippling and unfolding through your system as the planets are actually making their way through your body and your life and your awareness this year, and you're drawing connections to things that you first heard or first felt in your own body, first consciously tapped into in your own awareness as you were tuning in here. I just want to invite you to recall that and place your attention on that connection and witness it and digest it. And perhaps in those moments there will be inorganic desire to inform me of that or to energetically, financially throw some reciprocity my way. But also, like I said, today is my Venus return. So you know what? Fucking celebrate me right now, love me right now, resource me right now. Or don't you know Venus in Aries, my highest value is your autonomy. So do whatever you want. Do or don't do whatever you want. That's a way to celebrate me and to honor my Venus and Aries return is do whatever the fuck you want, regardless of what that has to do with me. And in the meantime, just consider this last little bit of my playing with time and impact and ripples through the grid. We can all just observe that as my current humble manifesters stumble through themes of generosity and reciprocity and impact and value. And you'll probably hear more on all of that as I launch future projects and continue to experiment out loud and loudly. 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AMALIAHi.
KELSEYThank you for rejoining on this tail end of the. This long ass fucking series that's almost over. Except I still have four episodes to edit and release.
AMALIAYeah, but this is a. This is an ending. This is. This is the last to record.
KELSEYThis is an ending. And in kind. I've outsourced endings to my ending specialist.
AMALIAThat's me. I'm an ending specialist. Yeah.
KELSEYWelcome back.
AMALIAThank you. Thank you. Glad to be here.
KELSEYYeah. So a lot of these planetary specific convos. I guess we can say this for anyone who's kind of zigzagging or spiraling or one offing episodes in this series that Amalia was the first guest on this series with me in the intro to the series part one of 11 that is titled Conscious Alchemy in 2026. So I don't feel entirely like a need to fully reintroduce you encourage people to listen to that episode if they haven't. But I have started, I think most of these planetary specific convos with like a design and Astro in Toronto, folks. So we could start there and. Or tell me what feels like more of a yes to you. Start there or start with how are we? Amalia and I have been talking for an hour already, but we could do a How are we? For listeners for attunement.
AMALIAI think the first one feels like a yes because I think that will be my how. That will be how I.
KELSEYOkay, cool. Who are you? According to are cosmic language tools of Astro and HD?
AMALIAI am an emotional generator. 4, 6, cross of the Sphinx and I am a Capricorn Venus, Taurus rising so ruled by Venus, Pisces, Moon, Aquarius, sun got a cap. Stellium, Aquarius, stellium. Yeah, those feel like the relevant things. And the reason that I said that, that felt like also kind of a how am I? I mean, now I'll die, I think. I guess I'll get into my house. Feels very connected to me.
KELSEYYeah.
AMALIAHow am I as Venus? Yeah, it feels. I'm in a really deep season of grief and as slowness and lostness. So much so that I almost. I've been talking with Kelsey about. I was like, I don't know if I can record. And then I realized that I think this is like I feel attuned to Venus in this moment and I just feel attuned to a version of Venus that just became an evening star after being invisible to us for a while. And yeah, I mean, we'll get into it, but yeah, I do. I feel really connected to Venus in this moment. It's not a higher, more glorious, more sensationalized version of Venus. It's a lunar, dark, griefy version of Venus. And I feel like as a Venus ruled human, this is part of what she does, part of what she helps us with. And yeah, we'll get into it, but that's how I'm doing. I'm tuning in from a pretty dark, pretty lunar place. Yeah. How are you?
KELSEYFine. Yeah. I don't know. As you were talking about the specific version of Venus that you're attuned to right now. I was feeling into Venus at the time of recording, being at what, 16 Pisces.
AMALIAYeah.
KELSEYAnd that's her exaltation. And I think it's easy to think about Venus in Pisces exalted as Lisa Frank.
AMALIAExactly.
KELSEYWhich isn't wrong. And it is those rainbows, butterflies, unicorns, neon colors, sparkle glitter. Yeah. Gradient cotton candy flavor. It is that, but it's also everything else. Right. Like Venus exalts in Pisces because everything is in Pisces and Venus is a planet that specifically connects us to literally everything in a distinct way. And I think, yeah, maybe we'll pretty soon start talking about what that means and playing with that a little bit. But yeah, you sharing your kind of more present right now with what mind in particular might label as some of the harder, darker parts of the everything that Venus connects. That also does feel like a Venus exaltation in Pisces. And yeah, what felt personally relevant for me about that is I don't know how to answer How I am right now. When you asked me before you were recording, my answer was, was it also like fine? Like, I think that's how I feel right now is fine. But it's like everything is here. You know, there's like. I feel excited about some things. I feel I've been in a really. Like, this is the last recording of this 11 part series and I've had so many different angles of perspective on my process of creation during this series. Like, I've had moments where I've tuned into some of the convos and be like, holy shit, that was gold. And then moments where I've tuned into the same convos and been just like cringing so hard at myself. And so all of that is here in this caboose episode with Venus and Pisces and all of it. Like just everything is here. And I've really been noticing too, like my mood being such a determiner of how I experience the same situation. Like in this case study, hearing myself talk, saying the exact same thing. And it's like whatever the, whatever emotion is currently moving through my body and taking up the most space, like fully colors the experience of the same thing for me. So yeah, I don't know if those thoughts I shared are. I don't know if I'm consciously aware of how they're all connected.
AMALIABut yeah, yeah, well, that feels. I mean, that's very Piscean. Pisces is such a rollercoaster, right? It's not casual. And I think that is interesting too to think about Venus exalted in Pisces. And there is this sort of Libran Venus that's graceful and agile and I think about an art museum and fine literature kind of for whatever reason, when I think about library Venus and music and then there's Pisces, Venus, and I'm like, Pisces is not delicate. Pisces is a fucking ocean. And I feel like that, I don't know, Venus is happy in that. Venus is happy in this sort of chaotic everything all at once. Let's go, let's attune to all of it. And I think that's interesting because I think in some ways attention attunement is about attention. And that's how I've been holding this since we first started the series. I've been holding this. Venus is attention. Attention is attunement. What does it mean to attune to any planet? Venus's presence actually, and any kind of attunement to any planet, to any being. And that's True. And I also think there's something Piscean. That's where the attention fractures and it actually goes everywhere all at once. And, yeah, it's intense.
KELSEYYeah. I love that you brought the ocean into it, too, because the ocean is so many things. You know, like, the ocean is the beautiful, sparkling, glittering surface of water that we get to look at and watch if we watch it at a certain liminal time of day with the literal cotton candy sky over it. But the ocean is also a place of vast mystery, as much mystery as outer space. It's also a place of destruction. You know, it's also a place that is, in many ways entirely unreachable to us. It's a whole ecosystem, otherworldly ecosystem. So, yeah, that was what was coming through. Like, Venus in Pisces can be this delight, this, like, shimmery sunset view. And it can also be a lot of other stuff.
AMALIAYeah.
KELSEYWell, that brings me.
AMALIAI was just gonna say it feels so lunar to me. And of course. And then I was like, well, of. I mean, I'm a Pisces Moon, so of course. But it also just feels like the ocean and waters, like, direct. You know, direct. The lunar sight, like the Moon is so connected to the ocean and the tides and that feels like, so present. When thinking about Pisces. Exalt. Sorry. Venus's exaltation as a lunar benefic.
KELSEYI have to check. I'm checking something right now. Okay. Yeah. This is interesting. So this is actually not something that we touched in on ahead of time. Like, we touched it on so much. So I'm not sure how we. But, yeah, I'm really feeling into this. Venus in Pisces transit. That is the transit that we're recording. I mean, it's beautiful. We're recording this convo on Venus this year while Venus is in Pisces. And we're talking about the everythingness of that. And the very simple logistical thing that I hadn't really clocked that feels significant is that when Venus entered February 10th of 2026 is when Venus entered Pisces. And Neptune was gone at that point. So this is Venus's first transit in Pisces. This is probably the fourth time on this series that I've made it known that I do not know what year Neptune entered Pisces. Since question mark. I keep being like, 12, 14, 16 years. I can't remember how long. Let's just find out the last episode. Let me just do this.
AMALIAWasn't it 2011?
KELSEYIt looks like. Yeah, there was an ingress in April of 2011 and then back into Aquarius in August and then back into Pisces for good in February of 2012. Okay, so math 1415 year transit. So this is the first time in 14, 15 years that Venus entered Pisces without Neptune being there. And at that moment of ingress on February 10th, Saturn was at 29 degrees and what, just two or three days from Saturn left Pisces on February 13th. Yeah, so Saturn was still there at the ingress. But overall this is Venus's first transit through her exaltation of Pisces without the co presence of these heavy hitters, Saturn and Neptune. And somehow that's not something I had clocked as a significant Venus moment this year, but it is and we're in it.
AMALIAYeah. Yeah. To me that feels like some of the grief that feels related to some of the grief I'm moving through. It feels old and it feels long. And that's part of why this grief season for me feels like it's not something that's gonna turn around in a realization. It feels like there's a long tail and it feels like it's. It's like the slow breathing, the silence in the aftermath of these long heavy transits.
KELSEYYeah. And kind of thinking like, I don't know if this will track well for listeners, but it feels connected to something you and I have been talking about today, but like in some ways for a longer time of like. There's a desire after the hardness to feel like there's some kind of payoff.
AMALIAYeah, yeah.
KELSEYAnd as we're in this process of deconstructing, deconditioning, deprogramming, healing, integrating, awakening, the version of payoff that we want from an ego mind place becomes maybe first of all less and less accessible. But there's this other thing underneath it that we might not always be super conscious of, which is that it's also less and less desired. Like we're deconstructing, we're deconditioning, we're awakening to a state where that version of payoff is not actually the thing we want. And even if we got it, it wouldn't feel like the relief that our mind thinks. And so I'm wondering about that, like this feeling of the fog of Neptune has lifted out of the place of Pisces, the grasp of Saturn has left from this place of Pisces, and Venus is here. And it's like. And yet there's still not that relief that I thought I wanted. And yeah, as you were talking about the connection of that to your grief. I was feeling this connection to this other theme we've been talking about. It's like Venus in Pisces might be bringing relief, but it's not in the way that our minds maybe want or to state perhaps less from the binary of mind, not mind. It's not in the way that a former version of us would have delighted in.
AMALIAWell, I'm thinking of again, the moon just feels so present for me, so she's just gonna be hanging out during this episode. Um, are you.
KELSEYAre you referring to like, sect? As you bring this up?
AMALIAYes, yes. Yeah. And I'm thinking about.
KELSEYWell.
AMALIAWell, really, I was just thinking about how lunar, like what you were just saying. I'm like, the healing, it's not conscious. Like you're talking about the ego mind. But that's a pretty conscious solar. Yeah, that's pretty solar. It's pretty steeped in what you think you know. Right. And maybe even what you. What you do know and what you do think. And neither of those things are that this sort of like, deeper, more oceany, like, lunar, mysterious. Like, I can feel in my grief, like I can feel the way that I'm healing in this, like, salty way. This, like, salty, irritating, like, raw way. And that's Venus. And that. That. That is this, like, more. I don't even know where I started. I kind of got lost in the seashells. But yeah, I think just thinking about how the deconstruction, like you were talking about relief and how it doesn't. Yeah, it's not gonna be the relief. I think we're moving. To me, this move towards the solar plexus awareness is also a move towards a more lunar awareness in a way. And I think lunar awareness. Yeah, it's not gonna feel the same as a solar relief.
KELSEYYeah, that makes so much sense. I love sex. I haven't thought super deep about it in a while, but I love it. And I love the connection you're making between AJNA and solar plexus. And even thinking about, like, the, like, let me say one of the ways that I first calibrate to sect is solar day sect stuff as being product oriented and lunar night sect stuff as being process oriented. And that does feel. I mean, there's. There's. I guess, yeah, AJNA is probably primarily product oriented solar plexus, obviously process oriented. But then it had me thinking also about part of this evolution from a human design perspective from being predominantly guided by AJNA to solar plexus awareness is also a shift from leftness to rightness, which also feels product solar to lunar process. Yeah, I feel like maybe let's frame sect a little bit, because I think that's going to be a big part of probably how we orient to Venus on this call.
AMALIAYeah, totally. Do you want to.
KELSEYSure, yeah. Well, also, I had other people talk up front about their relationship to astro and design. You have already done that a bit. Do you feel called to speak to that at all right now or just let it come in as it does organically?
AMALIAWell, I will say I'm in a. Like. I mean, this will be obvious, but I'm in a. This deconstruction period that Kelsey's been referring to feels in my mind very, very like letting my mind melt recently. And as my mind melts, like, human design has been feeling very mental to me in the last couple months. And so I'm kind of. I don't know. Even as I say that, it still comes through all the time. I was just talking about it in the solar plexus shift, but when it comes through, it comes through from places I'm not sure where they're coming from. To me, in this moment, I mean,
KELSEYalternating determination to maybe just you're alternating to astrology right now. But I think part of why I have enjoyed asking folks this or talking about this with people at the beginning is to inform listeners which language. And I think I'm just like, warning listeners, like, there's gonna be a lot of all of it. So if you are not a human design person, you'll miss some of it if you're not an astrology person, which I was thinking about that when I was like, let's define sect, because I do think I have a lot of listeners who won't know what that is. And I think it's a framing that is gonna inform a lot of our conversation, from what I can tell.
AMALIASo anyways, I can say, like my. With sect, I think the most important pieces to me feels like there's a solar team and then there's a lunar team. And I'll let you get as technical as you want to get with it, Kelsey, but the way that it feels alive in this moment and the way that it feels alive in me, I'll say is that each team of planets gets a benefic and a malefic. And Venus is the lunar benefic. And that's why I keep saying Venus is so lunar, because Jupiter is a more solar. And when we say more solar, maybe we're saying more bright in the open, more Consciousness more personality related. And when you think about to me just like the poetry of Jupiter as this sort of bouncy, bright glow up, thinky big. And then you think about Venus and Venus is this sort of. It feels almost more like shy is coming up. Although Venus is definitely not always shy. But there's this way that it's like it's less limelight than Jupiter can feel and more ocean, more vast, sweet, soft, dark, sexy, sensual. It's such a sensory experience which also feels lunar to me. Right. It's not like there's something about solar that feels so visual. Like it feels like this like bright, bright. I mean and of course you can feel the sun, but there's something that's so like. Yeah, that's like spotlight. That's like, you know, sometimes you don't even feel the sun until you're burning and lunar. There's this like even distribution of sensory experience. Right. If you think about what it's like in the dark with just like the moon out there's like, yeah, you can see with the moonlight, but you can also feel and you can also hear and you sort of start to drift down into your like embodied senses. And I think, yeah, I think there's a way that, yeah, the benefic of the night operates in a really different way than Jupiter. And that's just talking about the benefics. But maybe I'll leave that.
KELSEYI mean that's perfect because that is what we're talking about today. Did you name the teams entirely?
AMALIAI didn't. Yeah, you can go ahead.
KELSEYYeah. So the desect, I mean the thesis is also what I led with earlier of like solar product oriented, lunar process oriented. We've also made these connection already between rightness, receptivity being lunar versus strategic linearity being solar, AJNA being solar, solar plexus being lunar. Lots of connections being made here. So each team, each sect, as Amalia said, has a benefic and a malefic. They also each have a luminary. Right. So obviously day sect is the sun's sect and the sun's benefic is Jupiter, malefic is Saturn, obviously the night sex luminaries, the moon and the moon's team benefic is venusas Amalia dropped us into and as we'll get more into and the malefic is Mars. I was having this whole cool sparkly thing happen too where my last guest was Lex and two before that was Vince and they both brought in like esoteric astrology and this idea of the outers Being higher octaves, which is something that I guess I don't talk about much, but it's pretty ingrained in my process as well. This idea in modern schools of astrology that Neptune is like a higher octave of Venus and Uranus of Mercury and Pluto of Mars. And so I was like jotting down sect, which is a very traditional Hellenistic schema that originates far before we discovered Uranus and the outer. So those don't fit into it according to the Hellenistic schema. Oh, rewind. Going back to Hellenistic, before we bring in the outers. Mercury is the planet left out of sect. Right. And I think Vince and I touch on this in the Mercury episode. Part of what Mercury is is its ambiguity. It's not day or night. It's not malefic or benefic. It's the only non luminary that doesn't fit into one of those binary structures. Which is really interesting when you think about its association with Uranus. Because Uranus is this bridge to the outers. And as I was jotting the sect down and deciding to include the outers, I'm seeing the dissect planets don't have according to the de sect planets. So I'm mixing framing here. Some trad astro people might hate that. I'm not sorry. But the de sect planets, according to Hellenistic astrology, the non luminary planets, Mars and Saturn, they don't have associations with any outer being higher octave. And so if we think about this concept of like according to human design, when we discovered Uranus in 1781, that's when nine centered beings started being born, which is the beginning of this shift from 7 centered to 9 centered from Ajna to solar plexus. Right. And it's kind of in a way like the dissect planet, the de sect team is not necessarily getting left behind, but like, yeah, it's not necessarily a part of this transition, like the transition into 2027, into the new era. This really big picture evolution unfolding has to do with an expansion of the Night Sect with a tapping more into getting more nuanced, becoming more consciously aware of Night sect properties, Night Sect themes. And yeah, just like Uranus being talked about as the first planet to the outers and Mercury, the non binary doesn't exist with either. But then the discovery of Uranus is what pierced the limitation of Saturn, which is dissect and led us to these other outers which have associations with the Night sect planets, which are Venus, higher octave Neptune and Mars, higher octave Pluto. So anyways, that was just Kind of another way of seeing all the frameworks come together that underlines it's a lunar transition.
AMALIAYeah, well. And even just thinking about the way that Mars is ruling everything this year as a lunar malefic, you know. Yeah, yeah, sorry, go ahead.
KELSEYI was just gonna say. Let's go there.
AMALIAYeah, yeah. I mean, well, what I was gonna say, which I don't know if this takes us there necessarily, but it feels all here, I think, is like thinking about how I feel like I'm starting the year in this very quiet grief period. Does feel a little bit. Yeah, it feels lunar. And it also feels being lunar also like a nod to Mars as well. I feel the separation right now. And something I've been thinking about is. I mean, we can always talk about this, but yes, Venus is connection and Mars is separation. But I think in this extended period, I think I've been really playing with that binary just in an embodied way in my own experience recently, because I think in the way that I feel so separated right now, I'm getting to be like, okay, well, as a Venusian being, how is Venus here too? And that feels like so much of what I'm interested in talking about with you today as we think about, well, what is it to think about this year, such a martial year? And we're gonna talk about Venus not being a ruler anymore, but more of a player. And what does it mean to attune to Venus in this time that might be quieter, like. And I mean, for me, I'm in the quiet, which I think is. That's. I mean, maybe like, you're like, what's personal?
KELSEYWhat's not there?
AMALIAHard to say. Well, yeah, but actually, what I was just thinking about was it also feels like it's sort of beginning before the end. Like end before the beginning maybe. But I think to me, there's something here that's like, what is Venus when she's quiet, you know, and where is Venus when it's quiet? And I would argue Venus can always be here. Venus is always here, even in the quiet. And I think that's gonna be a lot of the practice this year and a lot of the balm of this year, where in so many ways it's gonna be explosive and loud. And where there's loud, there's also quiet. And Venus will be in the quiet this year. And so I think, yeah, I just feel really like I will be holding onto her tightly. And even as she takes us into retrograde, just where this year is going, she will still be here. She's always here. And yeah, I'm happy to go. I'm happy to go.
KELSEYIn fact, her retrograde is when she's closest. And so the direction that we're moving in this year is Venus. She started the calendar year almost at the furthest point that she gets from Earth. January 6th.
AMALIAEntirely invisible at that time.
KELSEYSuperior conjunction. Yeah. And she's all year until her October 23rd, 24th, I think depending on where you live, inferior conjunction with the Sun. That's the moment she'll be closest to us. So the arc of Venus this year is from her furthest point from the Earth to her closest in large part, which I love as a storyline for the year. There's also this other sect thing coming in for me that feels connected to what you're talking about. I think it might be a thread that comes in and out. So I'm gonna try not to feel too much pressure to communicate it wholly right now. But if we think about the sect
AMALIAteams,
KELSEYthe three night sect planets are much more personal than their day sect companions. Right? Like the moon is both the sun and the moon have so much to say about who we are as a person. But the sun is the luminary shining outwards expression. The moon is the luminary receiving inwards. It's a much more internal personality aspect of self. And then same with Mars. You know, Mars and Venus are literally referred to as Personal planets vs Jupiter and Saturn are more cohort based. We share those placements with folks of our year or years long birth cohort. And so yeah, just also feeling into this sleeping Phoenix stuff like an individual era. And so even the shift from Venus having much more stock in. Much more stock. That's not the right word. Venus having more influence over some of the slower, more social, collective, outward facing transits to Mars. That's a handoff still from personal to personal. So yeah, there's something there too. Like as we move more night sect, we're also moving more individual. It's more about passenger consciousness. It's more about my individual grain of experience than necessary. Focusing on collective reality, which feels like a lot of what John and I talked about in Pluto, in Aquarius and Aleeya. And I also talked about this a bit in the Saturn episode via like what does it mean for Saturn to be in fall in Aries where Saturn represents these external structures and exalts in Libra. But now thinking about Saturn in Libra and checks and balances and now we're seeing more and more people are going to be being and Going to be shocked into awakeness. 51 is the new plan that those checks and balances through our structures, external, collectively committed to structures don't work. And so now the checks and balances have to turn inward Saturn and fall in Aries. So yeah, it does feel connected to this focus, this lens of connecting to Venus this year as a night sect planet.
AMALIAWell, and the thing that was just coming up for me as you were saying, that was like the way that this feels so parallel to as you're saying to the move towards the more individual through Sleeping Phoenix and the move towards more individual. Just as all of this presence in Aries, it feels like the collective I'm picturing the hand holding of the collective becomes more lunar in a way. It becomes more felt as we become more Aries in a solar way and more individual in a more like on the surface way. The knowledge and the yielding and the internal embodied knowing that we are actually still a collective and still holding hands becomes more lunar. It becomes more felt because it's not on the surface as much. We don't have these collective Capricorn, Aquarius structures in place. We have these deeply internalized, deeply lunar understandings that we are still collective and we are still interconnected. And to me that feels like that same thing of the, like the Venus. Even in the separation, like even in the visible separation, there is still a deeply embodied and felt connection.
KELSEYYeah, yeah. That's so good. The proof of connectivity and connection is going to be resourced less and less in external reality and like physical manifestation of it and more and more in an eternal sense of that.
AMALIAYeah. Which requires like I love your.
KELSEYWhich is Venus.
AMALIAYeah, which is Venus. But it's also like individual embodiment. Like to access it, you have to really be inside of yourself. Like that's how you get to feel into it.
KELSEYYeah. Which. Okay, here's where this is taking me right now. Which feels like another roundabout way to maybe get to the thing that we keep saying we're gonna get, which is in large part Venus handing off rulership this year. I'm just thinking about. I love talking about the zodiac as from most local to most galactic, most local to more and more relational and expansive as we get out. And Venus is the planet of relationship. She's the first one we go to when we talk about relationship. But her preferred sign, her preferred domicile sign, her night sect home isn't Libra, it's Taurus. And Taurus is the next sign after Aries is the second most personal, localized sign. If you look at it through this conceptualization of like starting singularly in Aries and spiraling out to galactic Pisces. Like Taurus is so personal. I mean, I have Venus in Aries, so my Taurus is ruled by Venus in Aries. My experience of Taurus is influenced by Aries, but all of our experience of Taurus is influenced by Aries. Because Taurus is the next step in process after Aries. And Taurus is the experience of discovering embodiment, which you discover through your body. Right. So yeah, I'm just all these ways to feel into like, I think it feels maybe from a solar place, it feels easier to attune to Venus through these Libran principles that are like mind relating intellect external reality as a mirror, like seeking love outside.
AMALIAThat's airy, right? Yeah.
KELSEYBut like Venus's essence is first and foremost. Night sect is first and foremost. Taurus is first and foremost. This localized individualized experience of embodiment.
AMALIAYeah. Which I love as a way of looking at derivative resourceness and thinking about all of our planets going into Aries. It's just another way of thinking about the way that Venus is gonna be resourcing us to be able to tolerate all of everything that's gonna happen with all of this martial experience on the surface. But like Venus is right there resourcing that.
KELSEYYeah, yeah. So let's talk about this piece that we keep dancing around for those who have listened to the series in order. First of all, God bless,
AMALIAit's been a ride.
KELSEYSecond of all, you may recall that early on in the episode with Ari on Mars, Ari and I kind of told the story of our pre episode calibration to one another, where Ari helped me relax into a focus on Mars that was not about necessarily what Mars was up to this year in a solar linear oriented sense, but more the role that Mars plays in process as the ruler of a big part of how we looked at Mars. As Mars takes over rulership of Saturn and Neptune, which both ingress into Aries this year and conjoin in Aries, which is a really significant astrological moment in defining quality of the year. And Mars is in charge of that. And so as an extension of that, if we look at the other side of that, Saturn and Neptune are leaving. They have left at this point Pisces for Aries. Jupiter rules Pisces, but Pisces, as we've talked about already today, is also the exaltation place of Venus. So Venus, you might say, still has influence over that place. And then another really Significant shift this year is Uranus leaving Venus's night sect, home of Taurus, for Gemini. And that's huge. That's a huge, huge thing this year. And this episode comes after the Uranus episode. So Lex and I recorded for it, I think three and a half hours. Amalia.
AMALIAYes. Is the episode gonna be three and a half hours?
KELSEYI don't know what's gonna happen yet. Cause I haven't even edited Mercury or the nodes. I'm so behind. I'm not a closer.
AMALIAYou got it.
KELSEYBut, you know, Lex and I have, like, Lex was born six days before me. So that conversation is like, our astrology and design are so similar, and the places where they're dissimilar, they're still resonance. And I mean astrological resonance. So it was like the closest thing you could get to me recording a podcast with myself.
AMALIAExtremely Gemini of you guys.
KELSEYYeah, extremely Gemini. Extremely non sacral. Yeah. The places where we're different are my sag, Ascendant and Moon. They have Libra, Ascendant and Moon. So just like, just still air, fire, Sextile, Trine. Anyways, why did I bring up Uranus? Oh, because Uranus leaving Taurus into Gemini. Is Venus giving up rulership of this huge. I mean, Uranus in Taurus has been massively defining quality of the last eight years. And Uranus going into Gemini is in many ways, yeah, it's just huge, sorry to say, huge for the eighth time, but it feels huge. And that is another place where Venus is kind of. Of shifting her role within the woven tapestry to more of a backseat one. So there's some symmetry here through the series. Not only of having Amalia start and close with me, but of having the first planetary focus convo be of Mars taking rulership. And this last one being of Venus stepping into a different role. And when she has less direct influence as ruler and exaltation ruler, our relationship to her changes. And so I don't know that you and I have connected necessarily on any kind of concrete solar way of conceptualizing what that means, but I think that's some of what we want to get into and process around is like, what is the resource of Venus this year as she steps aside a little bit, like, as the collective astrology, the collective unfolding is less directly about what Venus wants for us. How does our relationship to her change? And what are the ways that we can be intentional in welcoming the support, the relief, the connectivity of what she does bring, which maybe that's where we go next is what is she? What does she bring. What is Venus?
AMALIAI mean, she brings connection. Right. But there's so many things to connect to. There's always things to connect to. And I think, to me, yeah, there's such an external focus on Mars ruling and Mercury ruling too. I mean, Mars isn't the only ruler, but there is the absence of Venusian overlordship. Right. And what that means is that, like you said, there's less of a focus on what's happening this Gregorian year on. And, yeah, like, overly connective material forces playing out. And so I think, to me, I feel very grounded in this sense of, like, well, what do you connect to when there's, like, very overt separation happening? Separation that's important and needed as you go into. In the Martian episode. The Martian episode, you know, But I think, again, this sense of Venus will be here. And so who do you connect to? What do you connect to? How do you. I want to say, tolerate, but even thrive. I think Venus is this lubrication, Right. And I'm thinking about lubrication and water as life. Right. Where's your life force in this way? Venus adds to your life force the way that water adds to your life. We're 70% water. And I guess where I'm going with this is, yeah, how do you tolerate and even thrive? Where is your life force when separation is happening all around you? Separation, explosion, destruction, rebirth. You know, these are the things that I feel like this is the landscape of our year, and you're coming to the end of this series with Venus. And we've talked about this feels so. It feels very meta. You know, she's still here at the end. We've just talked about all of the huge things that are gonna be happening this year and where does she plug in? And to me, I'm like, she plugs in in all of the holes, all of the crevices, everything that's. Everything that's being destroyed. She is here at the bottom. She sort of fills the holes with her lubrication. Yeah.
KELSEYI'm thinking about how in our first episode, conscious alchemy in 2026, this language came through you design of a web.
AMALIAYeah. Yeah.
KELSEYAnd like, that is how I first and foremost always orient to. Venus is like, as a web, she is what connects the pieces of the web. Like, there's an exercise that I teach. Well, I taught in my astrology course that I recycled from an astrology course I took that my teacher, Raya Wolf at the Portland School of Astrology at the time, took us through where there were specific Writing exercises that we did for every planet to attune to that planet in general, but also in its position in our own chart by sign and house. And they were all shaped a little bit differently, but they were mostly more linear prompts. But for Venus, it was to make a mind map. I can't remember exactly how it started. I think it was to take something that felt like our own Venus placement by sign and house, to pull a keyword, put it in the center, and then just make a mind map. So drawing out from there, what does that make us think of? Does that relate to? And then just going from there. And so that taught me so much about Venus to find all these words and ideas and concepts and feelings that were connected to each other that all had this like fifth house, Aries Venus flavor to them. So when I think about Venus, I think about. This language is newer to me, but I think about the design of a web. Like, how is it all woven together? How does that relate to that? How does that relate to that?
AMALIAAnd always weaving.
KELSEYSorry.
AMALIAAlways weaving, always weaving.
KELSEYLike Venus is the weaver. And another word that came through this morning that I texted you was also like Venus as relevance. Like when all of this is happening, what of it is relevant to me now? Like, I've been talking about that a lot lately through I've been describing like my experience of having splenic definition as the quote world burns, right? And like my spleen tells me what to pay attention to and when. That's my experience with a defined spleen. Obviously it's different for other folks. But all of our bodies know what to attune to and when. And then we have minds that are overwhelmed thinking we need to be attuning to all of it all the time for all of these reasons, right? But our bodies know how to digest it. The dosage, right? Like which pieces are for me to metabolize and now. And that feels very Venus, this idea of relevance. Like, I think we have demon. Like it's been demonized. This idea of as selfish or privileged, right? But literally our bodies have a capacity. This is Taurus. This is the wisdom of Uranus completing its time in Taurus. This is Saturn. Yeah, hold on. I think there was a punctuation for that Venus weaver web, right? So coming back to like just the way it feels fitting for Venus to be the end, which was not our intention. It ended up that way as time unfolded of like Venus, she has been here the whole time, right? Because we have been making these connections this whole time. And I'll just throw in this other little piece that we can drop or come back to or not of. Vince and I calibrated to Mercury a bit and this is one of my favorite ways of thinking about Mercury as like the sun's moon. Have you ever thought about it that way? Like the moon moves very quickly around the Earth and grabs the different aspects and sends them back to us, right? Like grabs the aspect relationships and the dialogues and brings them back to us in this internally felt way. Well, Mercury moves really quickly around the Sun. But then if you think about the classification of Mercury and our experience of it from Earth, Venus is doing the same thing just a little more slowly, right? Like they're both dancing around the sun and that group of three are then from a geocentric perspective, dancing around the Earth. So if we're gonna call Mercury, I'm like doing this. I wish I could show people.
AMALIAIt's a beautiful dance, everyone.
KELSEYIf we're gonna think of Mercury as the sun's moon, which I am and I love, then what's Venus? Venus is the sun's other moon. Venus is the sun's slower moon. So Venus is the sun's night sect. So yeah, that's just like one of the ways that I'm calibrating to Venus because Mercury is going around the sun and gathering information and sending it to our minds. What is Venus doing then? I don't have an answer, but I'm playing with that. But she's also collecting information faster than many of the other planets through her orbit around the Sun. And then in this other specific dance around the sun which changes her face and the way we experience her from Earth, The weaver, the design of a web. She's showing us the nature of everything being connected and woven, but she's showing it to us in a personal, personally relevant way.
AMALIAAnd I mean, as you were, okay, as you were doing your dance and describing that, I was both visualizing the petal, the petals of the rose, so that this makes me think maybe we move into talking about the rose a little bit her. And also I was also imagining the dance happening through my body. I was picturing her like it's not lighting up the way that again, like a more solar planet might. But it's like she melts into different parts of my body in different moments. Like each retrograde is like a different melting point. Each, each part is like a different, like, oh, how do you relate to this part of your body? How do you relate to this part of your life? What is it like to relate in These different ways as you were talking about the different faces we see. Right. Like, she can be in any different house, you know, in the natal chart. She can be like. We relate to all sorts of different things, you know. So I think. Yeah, I think it's really what I was imagining is her just dancing around the web and like lighting up different parts of the web.
KELSEYSounds like an emotional wave, doesn't it?
AMALIAYeah, it does, kind of. She feels so emotional to me and I'm sure, you know, of course she feels different ways to different people, but. Yeah, yeah. Relationship is emotional to me. And I'm also like, you know, emotional wave or not, like emotionally defined or not. She is emotion. She does come through emotion. We all feel that energy. I was just really feeling. Yeah. As you were talking about the sun's moon, the sun's night sect moon. I think. Yeah. This feeling of like moving energy is what was coming through for me. Like she's moving energy and that also feels like life force to me. Yeah.
KELSEYDo you think it's time to talk about what she's doing this year? Yeah. So she's, as we said, like, let's just. Yeah, let's maybe paint that across a number of canvases and timelines. I'll name one or two. She started the year in Capricorn furthest away from us at her superior conjunction that happened on January 6th. She actually don't know where she ends the year SAG, I think. Let me double check that.
AMALIADoes she get a sag?
KELSEYNo, you're right. She ends the year in Scorpio, where she'll spend a lot of time because of her retrograde. She ends the year at 23 degrees Scorpio. So we don't experience a Venus in SAG this year. So perhaps that's a way to understand the arc of 2016. And she makes her inferior conjunction in Scorpio while she's retrograde in late October. So as we said earlier, she's making her way from her furthest distance to Earth to her closest. She ends the year actually just out of the shadow. She exits the shadow, I think, in December in Scorpio. Yeah. So cap through Scorpio furthest to closest retrograde in Scorpio. And then I guess maybe the next zoomed out layer of looking at Venus over time is that she. Well, there's the four year zoomed out, but I'm not gonna hit that one. Cause I don't think I understand it as well as you. But the last time she had an inferior. The last time she had an inferior Cazimi, a retrograde Cazimi in Scorpio was eight years ago, October of 2018. So there's also like an eight year cycle coming to completion here. And then a really zoomed out one that we were kind of noting that was of interest to us is that Venus has been making conjunctions in the sign of Scorpio for a years along with in Cap Gemini Leo and the Aries Pisces Cusp. And this is the last one which is kind of wild. So closing out an eight year cycle from her last inferior conjunction in Scorpio in 2018. But also she's been making conjunctions. She's been having Cazimi's conjunctions with the sun in Scorpio for a hundred years. And we had our first one in Libra because they move backwards a few years ago, 2022 I think, but we don't have any more. So there's some significance there that I think maybe neither of us feel that studied enough to talk deeply about, but it feels relevant. Theus is like, hey, this is relevant. There's relevance here.
AMALIAYeah, yeah. I mean I think what's sticking out to me now and just to say this, I don't think either of us are capable of painting this picture with words. But listeners look up the Venus five pointed rose star cycle. If you haven't seen it already, it's really exquisite and I think says a lot about Venus's grace and artistry. She makes a. Here I go. I'm gonna try to explain it. If you look at the places that she goes retrograde over the course of eight years, she'll find herself back basically what Kelsey just said, at the same place. And she does it in five different points of the chart over those eight years cycling. It kind of looks like a spirograph if you look at the way that she moves across the sky. And yeah, she goes in and out obviously like any planet. But because she's an inferior planet, she's closer to the sun than we are on Earth. We see it in a particular way. And so we sometimes see Cazimis with her behind the sun between so that the sun is between her and us on Earth. And sometimes we see Cazimis where she's between the sun and us on Earth and that's when she's closest to us, which is what's gonna be happening in Scorpio. And to me, what sticks out, that was me trying to explain some things.
KELSEYYou did great.
AMALIAWhat was just sticking out to me and what you said Kelsey is. I mean, the fact that we're ending the year closest to us, like you said, with her just being reborn in Scorpio in detriment for the last time in a hundred years. And again, I'm imagining some listeners won't follow what that means technically, but that feels fine to me. I think the vibes of it feel like. I think what I'm interested in teasing out or playing with a little bit is what it means that for a hundred years we've been experiencing her in detriment, having these rebirth moments. We've been having these rebirth moments. You know, for me, I was just tracing before we got on this conversation, before we got on this call, I was just looking at, okay, well, what was the last eight years for her with me? Looked at the Cazimis over the last eight years and looked at what was happening, and I really was noticing. I hadn't noticed this before, but the way that I have a very. Especially with Venus being my ruler, I have a personal relationship with her being retrograde, it's hard. It's hard, it's raw, it's brutal. And I didn't realize until this morning when I was looking at it that I was like, yeah, it's hard and brutal. But every time over the last eight years, that's usually when there's some new relationship for me kind of heating up, there's something new heating up. And so that's this rebirth of relationship that happens every time she's in at least an inferior cazimi for me. And I think that that's also astrologically what it's defined by. And she doesn't only have Cazimis in Scorpio, but the fact that for One of the five places she's been having it for the last 100 years has been in this detrimented in Scorpio, where we know it to be a rough place, we're having a hard time. When Venus is in Scorpio already, we can talk about that more, maybe. And then the fact that it's like she's retrograde in Scorpio, she's already having to access Venusian qualities is already hard in Scorpio. We're having to access them in some martial ways. And then we think about what it is that she's retrograde there. And it's. For a hundred years she's been there, and this year we're ending the year with her there. She's closest to us. We're having this rebirth moment. Some new relational thing will have just kind of Phoenixed itself out from the fire of Scorpio for the last time in a hundred years.
KELSEYAnd I think before even last time in our lifetime.
AMALIAYeah, yeah. But I think the, like, end of a hundred years things feels just so related to sleeping Phoenix coming and 2027 being like, she will be like she will be handing us off into 2027.
KELSEYYou know, I kept talking about in several episodes at this point, like, this idea of like. Like we're renegotiating what our relationship is with external reality. And is that not like I'm seeing that now in what you just said? We're ending this period of her having, amongst other places, these points of reinvention in Scorpio. On the other side of that, we're beginning a hundred years of, among other places, Venus having this point of reinvention in Libra, which to me is the sign most distinctly about our relationship with external reality.
AMALIAYeah, yeah.
KELSEYSo that's what I pulled from that, which is very sleeping Phoenix and very. Lots of very Pluto in Aquarius. A lot of what I've been pulling
AMALIAand how gorgeous that Mars is doing that work for us. You know, like, Mars is doing so much work for us all year. And then right at the end, Mars is sort of burning down all of this. All of the relationships that we need to be composted. And in this Scorpio way, Scorpio's like, you will compost. And not only will you compost, but you will compost in a well, like this deep, fixed water way where you have to actually sink into it and feel it and brood about it and feel angry and spicy and sometimes aggressive, but all in a fixed way. It's like you have to hold yourself down and feel all of that to actually come out and come out with newness. And so Libra only gets to sort of take Venus and start our reinventions once we've really burned down and really melted down. Once Mars has helped us really separate from the Venusian qualities. It's like Mars has helped us separate from the connections that we no longer need to take into the new era.
KELSEYAre you talking about Mars doing all this work? Are you specifically referencing. Because of the Cazimi in Scorpio, Mars is Saturn.
AMALIAI think I'm thinking about the end of. I'm just thinking about us ending our year in a well, basically, because I
KELSEYjust want to point out now guess where Mars is ruling all of this from at the end of the year,
AMALIALeo. Right.
KELSEYWell, you don't have to guess. Sorry way. Yeah, Leo.
AMALIALeo.
KELSEYSo, like, the center of my experience. Yeah, yeah.
AMALIAAnd then we end the year about to go into a Mars retrograde.
KELSEYYeah. Wild. Wait, a Mars retrograde? Is it in Virgo?
AMALIAMars retrograde starts in 2027. Like very early 2027. It will go through Leo and Virgo.
KELSEYRight, yeah. Sorry. There's so many things to look at. Mars. I looked at the wrong thing. Mars. Yeah. January 10, 2027, at 10. Virgo. So it's a Virgo. Yeah, Virgo, Leo. Exactly. We just said I needed to see it. Sorry. Yeah, sorry, what?
AMALIAI was just trying to bring you back. You were saying Mars is ruling this all from Leo.
KELSEYRight? Yeah, just another, like, it's all always. Okay, here's maybe a Venus thing. This is an accidental segue, possibly back into Venus. There's always so much going on and it's impossible to actually hold all of it mercurially at once. Like, Mercury can't hold it all at once. Right. Jupiter holds it all at once. Mercury doesn't. Mercury holds a detail at a time. And maybe there's something here with the role that Venus is playing as the sun's other moon. These two planets that are doing a similar thing from the vantage point of Earth, it's like we can't hold all of it at once. And what I have found to be so cool in my study of astrology, the same thing happens in human design. Let me talk about Natally for a moment. But yeah, I'll just start with talking about Natally. I can learn about all these different things in my chart. And I can go from your most basic kind of cookbook, astrology, sign planet and sign in house, and I can get this hit. I can feel the truth of what that means for me. And then I can get into terms and bounds and all these, like, way more technical things and what it means to have a night chart and like, aspects and like, they're giving me more nuance, but it's the same hit. Like when I first learned about what it meant to be a sag rising, you know, there's like a hit of what is that? That is the attunement. It's self attunement. And then I find it again through a way more technical piece. But it's that same hit, right? And like, the same thing happens in human design. Whereas, like, the hit I get when I attune to myself as someone inside of a closed aura and I feel myself in that, I feel it again when I learn about being a second line body and not all closed doors are second line bodies. But the way I'm attuning to it is me. It's right, right? Like we take apart ourself through natal astrology, through human design into these parts. But it's just so that we can feel more clearly the very complex, nuanced arrangements of truth, of frequency that is us. And in this conversation series, the same thing is happening via a design of a web as we're looking at the frequency of the year over time, right? It's like we can talk about the feeling of this year from the vantage point of what's Mars doing to the vantage point of what's Pluto doing to the vantage point of what's Venus doing. And we keep coming back to the same thing. I'm talking about the same shit with all of you in all of these conversations. And I think that that's Venus.
AMALIAWell, I mean, you're talking relevance. Yeah, relevance. And how to relate. I mean, of course it's Venus. It's like how do we relate to anything is through Venus and through attention and attunement. And I think, I don't know what just really stuck with me, as you were saying, that is like we're only ever trying to remember ourselves and Venus helps us do that. And there's something about, there's the self hits that you were just talking about of like, oh, here I am remembering who I am again and seeing who I am in someone else or in something else, like this chart, and then knowing it's in me, right? And then there's like, yeah, I think it's like we're here to sort of remember ourselves. And also there are other hits that happen when you also can look at astrology and look at the stars and the planets to understand your relationship to the world. Right? Like it's. It's equally like I get those same hits when I'm like, oh, that's what's happening right now. That's why I feel this way. And it's like I already knew I felt this way, but I needed to know that there are stars out there that are like part of this web. Like they're doing that over there. The planets are moving and they're against these stars and the sun is over here. And there's this like magic energy happening between their angle and I am here reflecting that exact energy that they're doing.
KELSEYI feel the exact same, exact same arrangement of that inside of this body. I'm having a whole moment right now. I'm having a whole moment of thinking about this idea. Like you started that piece with what are we always trying to do? We're always trying to remember ourselves and we do that through relationship. And what are the places in the zodiac that Venus rules or exalts in? And then I'm looking at Taurus, Libra and Pisces as these three different ways that we can attune to that same exact orchestration of frequency. We can get that hit in our body, Taurus. We can get that hit in the direct mirror of external reality. And we can get that hit directly from Source with Venus in Pisces. And it's all just a different dimensional orientation to the same self. Remembering.
AMALIAThat's so gorgeous.
KELSEYBecause what's the self like? If the self is fire or Aries specifically, like the spirit of the separate self, like there's a reflection of that in the body. There's a fractal version of that in the body. Then in mind, Maya, Libra, Air. The relating and then the ultimate reflection of it, the cosmos. Source.
AMALIAYeah.
KELSEYThank you for inspiring that.
AMALIAYeah, yeah. Inspired by Venus.
KELSEYAnd right now, like on the day of recording this, it's like, let's see, maybe let's go back to Mercury now. Right. Because Mercury gets us there. Right. Like it was a mercurial technical thing that just happened that I was thinking through as you were speaking from your heart.
AMALIARight.
KELSEYIt was like my Mercury. We're having this hit while Venus is in Pisces. And at some point this year we'll have Venus in Taurus. At some point this year we'll have Venus in Library. Yeah. I wonder if there's like an application of that too. I don't know. Yeah. Is there a way to play with. I don't even know if I want to go here, but I'm going to go here for a moment. Is there a way to play with. If Venus is how we're remembering ourselves through some kind of fractal representation of self outside of something that is exclusively the self, then what is.
AMALIAIs it not like it feels basic to me in that it's like every place that she is in the zodiac is what she's helping us remember. You know, in Scorpio, she helps us remember what it feels like to be burned in a lot of ways. I mean, of course she does a lot. And especially when you're in natal placement with Venus in Scorpio, you know, how to Venus in Scorpionic ways. But I think, think among other things, there's always an, you know, I'm just using that as an Example because I'm like, even in a very like, quote unquote, un Venusian place, she's always helping us relate to ourselves. She's helping us relate to our Scorpio self. Like, for me, my seventh house is Scorpio. And so of course she's helping me relate in my partnership area. And my partnership areas are martial. Like, there's a lot of Mars energy there. And so she's also helping us relate to Mars. And how do we relate to the martial parts of ourselves? Is there something that feels like more technical that you.
KELSEYNo, I didn't know where I was going with that, but I was just like trusting that way of looking at it. I think I'm like, yeah. So I keep being like, this keeps happening where I'm wanting to direct towards something practical. And then the main thing that keeps coming up is just wanting to plug ascendant assemblies. Because ascendant assemblies is such a Venusian activity in every sense of the word. Because I'm like, okay, so how do we. I keep wanting to Jupiter, Mercury, how do we be with Venus this year? But the answer is, is you be with yourself. You be with your body, you be a conscious witness of your external reality. You be with God. And those are all the same thing.
AMALIAI mean, I'm thinking about, to me, Venus is also ease. You know, it's easy. It's like, what's easy is not always fun, but it is there, like path
KELSEYof least resistance ease, I think.
AMALIASo I'm thinking about what is your. What if you were to at any moment this year, no matter what Mars is doing, no matter what Uranus is doing under Mercury's rulership or what everyone else is doing under Mars rulership at any moment? What are your relationships like? Ask yourself that. What are your relationships like? What is it feeling like to relate to other people? What is it feeling like to relate to the world? What is it feeling like to relate to your nervous system? Those are questions that get you to Venus. And the answers might be, it feels really hard. It feels really painful. And that's Venus, Venus. Venus isn't like how to feel good. Venus is like how to feel yourself. Venus is like, how to feel what it is to relate. And I think there's this multiplicity here that this is again, why I kind of started with being like, well, everyone, I feel like shit right now. And that's really Venusian for me, especially as a Saturnian Venus. But I think there is something to be said for how do you build. To me, though, the practical Application again, this is Capricorn Venus for you. But I'm like, how do you build structures for yourself this year? Or attune in the moments to the structures that are already there for you to feel what's happening, to feel your relationship to what's going on in your life? And I think there is. The multiplicity I was speaking to is like, okay, in this very moment, what am I feeling? I'm feeling empty. I'm feeling lost. I'm feeling kind of bored. I feel like all I see is snow day after day, and I miss the sun. And in doing that, I'm like, yes, attuning to the, like, that vibe that I just described. But I'm also attuning to Venus while I'm doing that. I'm like, I'm connected to Venus because I'm connected to what it is to connect. And I think there's, like. I think that's what's here for us this year. I think it really strengthens us, actually, to be able to learn that connection does not always feel. I mean, not to infantilize. It's not like we don't know this, but I think it's really hard. I think it's really hard to remember sometimes that connection can feel painful. And that's also. Connection.
KELSEYYeah.
AMALIAAnd there's like a kind of devotion there. There's like. There's like a real, like, I feel so devotional to Venus to say, I'm here for you. Even when the connection feels painful, even when what I'm connecting to is my own pain, I'm still devoted to it. I'm still devoted to feeling that through. That, to me, feels like that strengthens your relationship to Venus. So you can feel every part of what Venus is up to. And that feels connected to what I was talking about in the first episode when we were like, we're talking about these wide cycles, and we're in just one fractal of a cycle, of the eight years, of the hundred years, where Venus has this infinite cycle. And by connecting to this part. Part of the fractal, like, this part of the cycle, we deepen our connection to her and all of. In the whole cycle. And. And. And through that, we deepen our connection to all parts of ourselves. I think when we deepen connection to ourself in pain, we deepen our connection to ourself as a whole human being. Mm. Yeah.
KELSEYI'm wondering about, like, If there is so. I mean, okay, I feel like this idea that we're really inviting an underlining of like Venus's attunement. There is relief, there is love, there is ease, there is resource in attunement to Venus, which we're expanding on by saying, I mean, I keep coming back now to Taurus, Libra, Pisces. These are the most distilled orientations of attunement is to your body, to your relationship, to external reality as a mirror, Libra, and to God, Source. And they're actually all the same thing from these three different angles. And I feel like that invitation, that intention is clear and has been set starting in our first convo that you and I had like conscious alchemy. That's what we're talking about, right? Like, being with what unfolds, not running away from it, connecting to it. That's Venus. Right. And so I'm like, I'm just like, like, yeah. Where I am right now is like, that feels clear to me. And that is the assignment this year has come through in every episode of this series. Because that is what's relevant this year. Yeah. And I'm wondering, like, this might just be open head, like, there might not. What if there's nothing else to say that's possible. And I'm wondering if, like, there are, because, like, okay, I think you and I do this. Like, this is what we do, right? Like, this is what we've been working on. This is like the Venus version of talking about this other Saturnian, Plutonian, Martian stuff that we do, right? Yeah. And I'm like, is there something like, I don't. I'm not asking this as like a leading question, but I'm wondering, is there more to say about the patterns of Venus and Venus this year in relation to these bigger cycles? That could be a support for folks to what am I paying what to pay attention to? How can I pay attention in my process with Venus? And one of the things that you and I reflected on earlier was the eight year cycle, so. So I'll offer that as possibly a starting point. Where's Scorpio in your chart? That might be useful by whole sign house, another plug for ascendant assemblies. We can help you digest that with folks who are experiencing it similarly geometrically juxtaposed. And what was happening eight years ago for me, it was really clear when I looked at that. Literally October of 2018 was when inner Sense Healing Arts opened doors. And so that's an eight year cycle closing for me this year, which makes so much sense because Inner Sense Healing Arts was like my first, like big initiation into like Healing Arts Community. And that is coming around for me right now. Like I'm closing out the way that I have experienced being a part of a whole as a entity that is. As a chironic entity that is both like healing and sharing and teaching and being in process with others about their healing and some kind of organization, organized communal way. I really feel the significance of that in my own life. Like eight year closing and something new coming through that feels so clear to me right now. And for me, I can see the 12th house significance of that with the Cazimi. And I can also see as a sag rising Venus rules my 11th and my 6th. So I can see very clearly the 11th and 6th. So I don't know, maybe that's too technical, but that's where my mind is going right now. Is there a way to kind of bridge these conceptual sensations of what it is to be Venusian and carry Venus's prerogative through our systems this year when there's gonna be a lot of external reality, context that has the potential to pull us away from that kind of witnessing and attunement that Venus asks of us? Yeah, that's just where my mind is going. It's like, is there a the. I mean, the Scorpio Cazimi at the end of the year?
AMALIAYeah.
KELSEYIs there anything else that comes up for you as possibly connected to linear time, practical relevance?
AMALIAI think what's coming through for me is like, this isn't actually an answer to your question.
KELSEYGreat. It may not have been a relevant question. Oh,
AMALIAI think Venus is like just Venus as like, ease and simplicity. Like Venus as beauty in what is so simple. Like, I'm thinking about this Taurus Venus, which of course is my rising sign. And so it's how I look at everything. But I'm like, you don't have to look far for beauty. You know, like, to me, attuning to Venus is like, what's beautiful right now? Something is beautiful. And again, understanding that, like, if you're looking for something to feel happy, you're gonna look past Venus. That's not what Venus is about. You know, Venus is about ease. And to me, the way she's speaking right now is like, ease, simplicity, and like, what's the easiest way to find beauty in this moment? Moment. That's a way to tune into Venus. What's the easiest way that you can think about your connections right now? How are your connections speaking to you? How is your relationship with your nervous system? I know I said that already, but I think to me that's just like for me there aren't more answers right now to me. Looking to your. Yes, you can look to your chart. Where is Venus and what house is Venus in? And what house does Venus rule? I think all of those things are really useful and like Kelsey said. Yes. Come join us in ascended assemblies. I think it'll be extremely Venusian and I think it'll be really fortifying for this year. And I think like. Yeah, I think what I said is what feels. That's what feels here in this moment.
KELSEYYeah, that all feels right. I'm having like. Oh, go ahead.
AMALIAI think there's something about, like I'm thinking about. So as I was looking at my eight year cycle, I was thinking about how four years ago Venus was retrograde in Capricorn or four years ago in January, Venus was retrograde in Capricorn. We had Venus's inferior cazimi because that's what happens when Venus is retrograde. And I was in this kind of height of romance in a relationship. But now four years later, Venus had her superior cazimi and I'm just starting to talk to that person again. I've been reflecting in my grief period on basically all of my relationships and I was thinking about how for me, when I track the sort of full Venus experience of Venus's superior cazimis tend to line up with me being in a more reflective period. I tend to feel kind of like maybe I'm in more of a grief moment or maybe I'm just in a more zoomed out moment, which makes sense because I'm the furthest away from Venus and so in some ways I'm the furthest away from connection. And then I'm challenged with this moment of like, what does it mean to connect to my lack of connection? Like, what does it feel like to connect to myself when I feel less connected to anything else? So I think that can be useful. I think part of what you're asking is how can we look at these cycles to help us understand how Venus is showing up for us. And so I definitely think if you're cycle oriented and if you're someone, I do think that tracking, tracking those cycles and we can put resources in the show notes to do that. And I think Pallas is such an incredible resource for that is helpful because I think even then I'm learning a little bit more about like, oh, this is what I tend to do when Venus is doing these things. And we were talking about that.
KELSEYYou know what's funny is that that process that you're describing that I've been poking at is so much more Jupiterian and mercurial than being.
AMALIAI was gonna say.
KELSEYThat's what I was gonna say. Palace is a. The Virgo sun. I'm pretty sure. Sag rising a Jupiterian at Venus.
AMALIAExactly. And so I think that's why I'm like. I think it's simple. I think if that feels helpful to you, great. And we were talking earlier about how this will be kind of a Venus reflective year. Like, Venus is coming closer and closer to us, as we said. But, yeah, I think, like, exactly what you said. That's a sort of mercurial way. And so I think maybe if Venus feels further away from you in terms of grasping, I think, understanding, then you can look to the chart and be like, well, who rules my Venus for me? Thanks, attorney. And Venus. Saturn rules Capricorn, which is where my Venus is. So I access Venus in many ways through Saturn, which is how I have access most of my life, which is
KELSEYwhy I'm always like, how am I right now? I hurt and I'm a Venus.
AMALIAYes, exactly. Yeah. But I think, yeah. So if you're a Mercury person, then these things might really appeal to you. If you're a Jupiter person and understanding that looking to your chart to understand what kind of Venus person are you, to me, Venus is already speaking to you. It's definitely not about, how do I get to somewhere that I'm not. But I think, yeah, I think that the simplicity feels important to underscore because I think that really is what she does. She really shows us the simple beauty that's already here.
KELSEYPresence is coming up. Right. If I come back to this idea of Venus, the three places where you can tune into Venus in her most distilled sense is Taurus, Libra, Pisces. First of all, there's a presence in each of those. But again, Taurus being her first foundational and of sect, domicile, place is like. I mean, Taurus to me is so much about presence. Because how can we feel our embodiment if we're not in the present moment? Right. And then when we show up to Libra, to relationship, to our mental stories about relationship with the foundation of embodiment and presence, we get a really powerful experience of external reality that is potentially alchemical rather than like a victim consciousness or running away from distraction, compulsive version of being in relationship, period. And then it's like through presence on both of those planes is how we get to access this Pisces, Venus which is like connection to the all, connection to truth, connection to God. And I'm kind of wondering about like. I don't know, I just. I have this like itch. I think it's like. I don't know what it is. I just have this like itch that actually wants to take a holistic view of Venus. And I'm wondering about like. I'm really, really liking this new sort of. I don't know, something in me is like, maybe a way to connect with Venus in a more holistic way throughout the year is simply to notice our experience of her when in Taurus, when in Libra, when in. In Pisces. And then as you said, like Pisces now and as you said, and her retrograde happens partially in Libra, even though the Cazimi and the station happen in Scorpio. So again, that kind of like reorienting, renegotiating how we relate in the Libra version of Venus is also a big part of the story this year. But anyways, I'm wondering if that could be like a setup and if it would feel fun or fruitful at all to actually like just from a very bird's eye view perspective, take a look at Venus as she moves through the signs this year and just see what we see in the now.
AMALIAYeah, absolutely. And we also talked about the ones where she's co present with the sun and where she's not. And that to me feels also like that will really define the ways that we feel her.
KELSEYYeah. So let's just like arrow a bit and see. We'll just give each Venus by sign transit a minute or two and see what comes up. Okay, cool. Cause yeah, that's like an itch I can't scratch and didn't intend to do. But something about it just feels like I need a little bit more connection to linear time. Like I'm just needing that. Okay, so we started the. I guess we'll go back briefly. We started the year with Venus in Capricorn and she had her superior Cazimi there. She was a part of the pileup of Mercury, Venus, Sun, Mars and Cap. But then do you remember which Cazimis happened? That all the Cazimis happened in Cap. Mercury, Venus, Mars. Okay. So they all had these beginnings in cap in 2026. Anything we want to point out about that? That's what was happening when we started the series.
AMALIAYeah. And I spoke to it a little bit then I felt newly reborn in a very rough way.
KELSEYYeah, well, in Cap, there's so much With Cap, Capricorn and Aquarius together being the Saturn ruled signs. So much, much having to do with our experience of external reality and the shared experience on the planet physically Capricorn and then in the collective psychological experience of reality with Aquarius. What's coming up?
AMALIAWhat's coming up is that we had these, you know, we had these relationships. There's like I'm just thinking about Saturn now and thinking about, about we had two eras of Saturn in domicile Saturn signs and then we had Saturn melt in Pisces. And I think we're still collectively. Yeah. Letting. I mean obviously the structures are still standing in ways they're crumbling, but they haven't fallen yet. And so I think we're like. What I'm feeling into is like these cazimis feel like new structures. New structures are being built. Right. It's clear like the divestment from those structures is you know, varying in its progress. But for me it feels complete like the divestment from those structures. And so I think I'm kind of newborn in this place of like what are the new structures? And in a very Saturnian way like Saturn wants to take away literally everything. Everything except for, you know, know I've been writing about like my pilot light. Like it's like it feels like I'm dead right now except for there's still this pilot light going. And to me that feels so saturnian. Saturn will take away everything that the pilot light.
KELSEYLike Saturn in Aries.
AMALIAYeah, true, true. Yeah. Where there's like, there's still this pilot light and now you get to rebuild like around that like what, like what story does the pilot light want to write? And I feel like that's what January felt like to me with all those cazimis was like rebirth of like how do you want a Mercury next now? How do you want a Venus now?
KELSEYHow do you want a Mars now?
AMALIAExactly, yeah.
KELSEYAll these personal planets in Saturn signs making their cazimis in these particular two signs. Right. As Saturn finishes the very end of its three years in Pisces.
AMALIAAnd it feels again to emphasize the point that when a planet at its rebirth heart of the sun moment in a cazimi, you can't see it.
KELSEYAnd that feels structures being born in the dark.
AMALIAExactly. And that feels so Saturnian to me that it's like you have to feel into what it feels like without seeing. You don't get to rely on anything besides for your intrinsic sense of what it feels like to connect to these planets.
KELSEYAleeyah and I Talked about in the Saturn episode, the idea of Jupiter traditionally being associated with opportunity, but that there's also opportunity in Saturn and how Saturn is the glyph, is the flip of Jupiter. And we talked about Saturn being physical world, container for opportunity. And in that moment, it was coming through to me as like. It's like a block of hard that you have to chisel what you want out of, which is like the inverse of Jupiter opportunity. It's like a lot of what we talked about in collaboratory. We needed a lab. We needed a place to make and break bonds. We needed to put our bodies through an experience. And so, like, collectively, we're putting ourselves through an experience right now. Yeah. New structures being made in the dark feels like the thesis of that to me. So then we had.
AMALIAThen we have February, Aquarius season, Venus.
KELSEYYeah. So, well, here's something kind of interesting is at the moment of that. That Superior Cazimi on January 6th at 16 degrees Capricorn, that's the moment that Venus gets ahead of the Sun. Yeah. Since, like, March of 2025, Venus had been behind the Sun. And then in January of this year, Venus gets ahead of the Sun. She gets ahead of Mars. So now of this collective of planets that are kind of moving through the sky, moving through the zodiac together, of which Venus, Mercury, the sun, always are pretty close. And this year, Mars stays closer than normal as well. And at the beginning of the year, all four of them are Mercury, Venus, Mars, and the Sun. But early in the year, Venus got ahead of all of them. And I guess Mercury will probably go. Yeah, Mercury will get ahead of her, but she remains ahead of the sun all the way until late October and ahead of Mars as well. She's the first one to get into Aquarius. There's something revolutionary about her in that she arrives to Aquarius first.
AMALIAYeah. Yeah. I mean, we could see her first, I think, around February 18, as an evening star when she's ahead of the Sun. That's what that means is that we see her in the western sky sky
KELSEYat night, because the sun will set and it gets dark enough to still see her lit up before she sets with it.
AMALIAYeah. And I think to me, just the energetics of being able to see her in the sky, but at night, not at dawn before the sun rises. I think that just feels really like that's what it's like. Exactly. So I think that's. To me, Aquarius season has felt. I am an Aquarius, and I, like, feel had a hard birthday season this year. And I think Venus, I mean, it's like more of what I've been saying, I think it's like. But I can see her now. I'm like, oh, I know what I'm doing now. I see what's happening. I'm relating to myself in this moment. I'm newly kind of reborn and it's a rough time and I'm tending to myself in that. To me there's a reparenting, a parenting that's happening in this moment that's like, I'm in the sky, I see you. And this is the work too.
KELSEYLike we have to wait for nightfall in order to feel viscerally connected to the relief and the presence of Venus. And that'll be like most of the year, right?
AMALIAExactly. I mean, yes, that's until just days before the
KELSEYcazimi. Right. She's still visible at the beginning of the retrograde, I think. Sorry, she's invisible.
AMALIAWhen she's combust, we don't see her.
KELSEYRight. But it's like for a much shorter amount of time later in the year. So most of the year, year we have visible Venus.
AMALIAYes, yes, exactly.
KELSEYYeah, well, starting now, starting mid February. But that visible Venus is evening Venus. So this feeling, this symbolism of Night sect Venus, we don't get to connect to her sweet relief until we allow the sun to go down. Until we wait for the sun to go down. Which if we look at the relevance of that pearl lot of what the other astrology has shown us in this series so far is like, yeah, that relevance piece to me, like everything happening out in collective reality that wants to demand your attention away from your body, away from your sovereignty, away from your birthright of peace. Right. Like can we let that happen? Can we let night fall? Can we exhale completely and then find the relevance in it for us? Reconnect to self, reconnect to body, reconnect to presence. It's like, it feels like yet another cosmic fractal representation of the task of this year, which is it also feels very much like Uranus shifting from Taurus to Gemini. To me of we just experienced this whole renewal revival tower moment. Upheaval in our relationship to our body, in our relationship to Venus through embodiment of Uranus in Taurus. When Uranus gets into Gemini, there's a lot of extra upheaval there. And so look at all the. Like we can rely on all the space that Uranus moving through Taurus just created for us to come back to our body to learn how to honor the capacity, learn how to honor the limitation, the truth of the presence of the form. But it happens in this like afterthought. It happens in like the night glow in this lunar process oriented way.
AMALIAYeah, I think I'm just, I'm thinking of like again with this, like this, the quiet. It's gonna be quieter, like lunar Venus. And so I think it's like what is it like to attune to Venus in this year? It's in the quiet. It's like you said, it's after nightfall. And so it's like it's not out there in the material world. It's gonna be in your internal space. And so there's like Venus is actually inside of you this year and that's where to look to find her. And I think, I think to me, I think that thing that I was sort of feeling around for earlier, where I was like, where's the natal chart of Venus this year? I'm like, oh, it was at the Cazimi, of course. That was the thing. And so there's this Saturn Capricorn imprint to me on this whole year leading up to Scorpio season. That's the Venus. That's where Venus was just reborn. Well, that's not true. Venus wasn't reborn there. That was our sort of full moon of Venus.
KELSEYFull Venus?
AMALIAYeah, full Venus was in Capricorn. And so that's what she's waning away from right now. But there still is something, something about like that was like a full Venus, like with the sun. Right. So there's like an imprint of Capricorn. To me, that's like in this trickle down that we're following until Scorpio season, I think. Yeah.
KELSEYAnd then we have Venus in Pisces, which is now Venus in Pisces.
AMALIASo get real comfortable with finding Venus in Source.
KELSEYLast meeting of Venus and the north node in Pisces. What else? Yeah, last meeting by trine of Venus in Pisces to Jupiter in Cancer,
AMALIAWhich feels like a little bit of a pre. That's like the opening trine, I guess you would say, to the conjunction that's gonna happen in Cancer seasonally.
KELSEYClosing trine.
AMALIARight, closing. Yeah, sorry, Closing trine.
KELSEYYeah, yeah. And then we have March 6, we have Venus enters Aries. So this will be the first time Venus meets Neptune and Saturn both in Aries. And it's before spring. So this is characterizing the end of our winter. The sun is only halfway through Pisces at this time. We get Venus in Aries, that then right away we get Venus conjoined Neptune in Aries and Saturn in Aries. So yeah, Venus comes in Aries after the Saturn Neptune conjunction, which is kind of interesting. One of the ways I sometimes like to think about Venus is like she comes in and she kind of sweeps up the room and like fixes the crooked artwork on the walls.
AMALIAThat Venus cleaning is Venusian. So that feels so apt.
KELSEYYeah, but it's not quite an after cleaning because Saturn and Neptune are still there. So she's coming in. Yeah, she's judging it up. Yeah. Maybe the Venus in Aries transit this year is like. Yeah. An opportunity to just be more present. I mean, it's stating the obvious. But be more present with what is this Saturn Neptune conjunction? It happened already. We're recording this on February 23rd. The conjunction was three days ago. And it's funny, the way that we talk about and deliver astrology is so. I mean, I think this series is not that. And that's why it feels exciting to me. But this isn't in any way, I'm not saying this in any way to be a judgment or a criticism against how we or other astrologers share their writing and stuff. But because of Mercury, because of mind, because of a solar oriented world, we're so focused on the dates of exact things. But that Saturn Neptune conjunction will be playing out for 30 years, if not millennia. Right. And we're gonna get a different orientation to it every time a planet aspects either of those two planets. Right. It's not that much actually about February 20, 2026. Right.
AMALIAEspecially with Neptune. I feel like Neptune conjunctions are so watery, like they're so oceanic.
KELSEYThey're not. They don't happen. They don't exist in any one moment of time. Yeah, but. So this feels good to me because this is a way of feeling into Venus this year. It's like, okay, so what about that Saturn Neptune conjunction? If you're on the Internet and you're someone who kind of takes in astrology through other people's perspectives on when you should pay attention to what. Right. Venus has attention again. Okay, so maybe you have a little bit of an understanding of what's Saturn in Aries? What's Neptune in Aries? What's the Saturn in Neptune in Aries conjunction. But pay attention. Perhaps here's another person outside, inside of you telling you to pay attention to March 6 through March 30. So March this year we have Venus and then eventually the sun as well coming into Aries. And there's gonna be a really particular access point that we have to what those two planets are doing together in Aries and doing together in that house of your chart in Aries. And this is also another relevant thing about Venus in Aries is this will be be the final aspect that Venus makes to Chiron in aries in an 8, 9 year ordeal which then segue into Venus in Taurus. This is Venus's final co presence with Uranus in Taurus and Venus's final transit through Taurus without a Chiron in Taurus. Which feels really big to me. Like the whole. Okay, the whole. Yeah, like if we're gonna put this emphasis that I have stumbled upon through being inspired by you, that I feel excited about on like understanding Venus through understanding Taurus, Libra and Pisces.
AMALIAYeah.
KELSEYThere's so much relevance to the fact that we haven't been able to experience Taurus for eight years without the upheaval of Uranus and we're about to not be able to experience Taurus for something like six years years without the pang, the pain point of Chiron. So our experience of Taurus, our experience of embodiment, which is the foundation for our experience of Venus and relationship is getting massively rewritten for a 20 year period right now almost of Uranus in taurus starting in 2018, followed by Chiron in Taurus.
AMALIAYeah.
KELSEYAnd yeah, I guess that's like something that feels relevant to me. Like bigger picture I guess about the beginning of this year is like if we look at where the slow moving planets are, starting with Pluto in Aquarius. Then we had Neptune and Saturn in Pisces. At the start of the year we had the north node in Pisces. Neptune and Saturn moved into Aries. Chiron is in Aries moving to Taurus. Uranus is in Taurus, moving to Gemini, like the Aquarius through Taurus, soon to be Gemini. Part of the zodiac is where everything is happening from these more, more outer planetary lenses. Except Jupiter is a little ahead of the game. And so Venus, this is I guess just another way to feel into Venus this year. She's all wrapped up. Her and the other inners and Mars and the sun are all like wrapped up where this stack of outer planetary emphasis is at the start of the year. And she's kind of making her way through conjunction to the heavy hitters at the start of the year. Yeah, and making her way first. Right. Because she gets ahead of the sun starting January 6th. So she becomes the evening star. That evening star is the predecessor to a lot of other stuff. So Venus is like pre attuning us. It's like we get to feel things before we then experience them through solar consciousness or mercurial ration,
AMALIAWhich is what she always does for us, really.
KELSEYOkay, Venus in Taurus. I'm just gonna commit to continuing this little traipse through Venus in Taurus. Oh, she actually doesn't. Oh, yeah, she does. Okay, she does conjoin Uranus. Let me look at when that happens. Venus conjunct Uranus. April 23rd at 29 degrees, 53 minutes of Taurus, she conjoins Uranus.
AMALIAThat's amazing. Yeah, that's gonna be an important day. I think that's gonna be a really important day. To attune to what our experience with Uranus in Taurus has been. It's gonna be like Venus is like, here you're closing. It feels like this is morbid, I guess, but it feels like that moment of lucidity before death know. And I feel like that's what that's going to be. That, that. That's what that feels like to me. Does that make sense?
KELSEYInstead of seeing your whole life flash before your eyes, you're going to see your whole like Uranus and transit. Yeah. You're going to see your whole journey towards freedom in your body over the last seven, eight years flash before your eyes.
AMALIAWhich feels important to kind of know before. Before. Yeah,
KELSEYit feels really important to know because really this Uranus in Taurus transit was like such a foundation for I can only look ahead to Uranus in Gemini and be like, it's gonna be fucking crazy.
AMALIAYeah, it'll be chaos.
KELSEYIt's gonna be chaos. And there's freedom to be found in that chaos. But
AMALIAI think like, this moment with Venus will be helpful for us remembering that we will still have a body even in that chaos.
KELSEYI think. Yeah. To place it into slightly more zoomed out practical terms, we could say like this spring, per both the sun and Venus's co presence, co presence in general because they're still co present a bit in Aries and in Taurus and then their co presence with Uranus in Taurus, it's like a real opportunity to be in receptive awareness of how much freer you actually are than you were seven years ago. And I think that feels so important to me because this feels connected to something we were talking about really early on. It was the thing that I was like, I don't know if listeners will track this, but it feels relevant to what Amalia and I have been talking about. Like everyone listening to my podcast I think has been. I don't think everybody in the planet has. So I think everybody listening to my podcast has been in a process of deconstruction and in a process of deconditioning. And I bet you that there's a strong correlation between that journey for you listeners and Uranus in Taurus, right? Starting May of 2018. And we've been divesting like the deprogramming, the deconditioning has been this divestment from a reliance on peace, satisfaction, sense of wholeness, sense of holiness, this sense of freedom and autonomy, sense of success and well being and security that is entirely based on these external structures that are dying, all these Capricorn, Aquarius transits that are in our present and recent past and an investment into a more localized sense of security, safety, wholeness and holiness. Freedom, autonomy, well being, peace, all the things. And that is going to be so like that. Divestment and reinvestment in the source of our well being, source of our freedom is crucial to being able to maintain a sense of well being, peace, autonomy, freedom, all these things as things continue to become more and more absurd in this external reality. So yes, just really seeing that moment that you and I just had of like this conjunction of Venus to Uranus while the sun is co present at 3 Taurus, which happens to be the degree of Chiron's in its discovery chart. Three degrees Taurus. Yeah. Yeah. So looking to the last April 23rd and the days kind of leading up to that, the few days leading up to that as a real signal towards. I don't know. Yeah, it feels like maybe a moment where the static clears for a moment and you get the clear frequency for just a blip. Like just a moment of a clear a few days worth possibly of a clear sense of insight into the truth that is your freedom and the truth that is your wholeness and the truth that is your wellbeing. You get to go to maybe it's like the tower or the star card a little bit. You get to go to the well and drink of the water before the page turns. And then the Venus and Uranus ingress together into Gemini.
AMALIAIt feels like again that remembering yourself remembering how much resource you have. Have.
KELSEYYeah. And you know, actually what's wild is the day that she hits Uranus is also the day she leaves Taurus and goes into Gemini also April 23rd. By the end of the day
AMALIAshe's like, it's a moment and then here we go.
KELSEYSo in the Venus in Gemini transit is more like a pre sweeping she's like, let me come in here and clean it up so y' all can wreck it for the next eight years.
AMALIAYeah. Yeah.
KELSEYSo, yeah, once again, this is like Venus's final transit through Gemini without Uranus. But actually, that's not even true because Uranus goes in two days later. So we get two days, one and a half days of Venus. Yeah, totally before Uranus. And then we have, yeah, Venus in Gemini. Squaring the nodes is the only hard aspect I see.
AMALIABe
KELSEYruled by Mercury in Aries, who will conjoin Chiron, Venus in Gemini. Nothing sticks out to me. We have Venus in Cancer. She'll have a moment with Jupiter.
AMALIAThat feels like a significant moment to me. I don't know of what, but it'll be nice.
KELSEYShe'll square Neptune and, well, I guess also Venus in Gemini. To go back will trine Pluto in Aquarius. So, yeah, definitely recalibration moment. Pluto in Aquarius, to me, is such a player in this story of what is my relationship to external reality? Which is the same question as what is my relationship to my mind. And so I think Venus going into Gemini just ahead of Uranus, trining Pluto. There's something there. There's like a moment of receptive sweetness, a about our relationship to our minds, especially as she trines Pluto in Aquarius early and then. Sorry, then she gets into Cancer, where she right away squares Neptune, then Saturn, then conjoins Jupiter and then squares Chiron.
AMALIAMm.
KELSEYYeah. Like relational dependency versus codependency versus interdependence starts to become like. As she leaves Aries air and gets into water, specifically Cancer, Cardinal water, where she's co. Present with Jupiter, there's like, a sense of how am I connected to the All? Like, what is the shape of my connection to the All? And that's challenging. These heavy hitters in Aries that are still really calibrating us back to the pilot flame of self, as you referred to it. Whenever I see cardinal squares, I'm always thinking about our sense of obligation and responsibility and how. How the senses of duty and obligation that we have to different areas of our lives and different people in our lives and different scopes of life, from the personal to the relational to the social to the collective. Feel like they're at odds with each other.
AMALIAAnd with Cancer, I think caretaking in particular feels like it'll be live. Yeah.
KELSEYAnd that's June 5th. This is all leading up to, like.
AMALIALike, parenting.
KELSEYWhat'd you say?
AMALIAParenting. Feels life.
KELSEYWe have the exact Venus Jupiter conjunction, like, between the 8th and the 9th of June. And then right after she conjoins Jupiter, she'll square Chiron in Aries for the final time. That feels really significant to me. Venus and Cancer squaring Chiron and Aries for the final time. Time, I don't really know that I have anything specific to say about it, except if we keepokay. So we keep looking at Venus as like this moment of receptive clarity. The Venus in Cancer transit as a whole and especially the very tail end of it on June 12 when she conjoins Chiron and Aries right before Chiron moves into Taurus and right before Venus moves into Leo, does really feel like this point of receptive clarity around the work that has been done in healing the wound of separation and feeling held and connected to source into the whole. Regardless of the ways in which you have to take care of yourself primarily first and foremost the Chiron in Aries. Where have you been abandoning yourself for fear of being abandoned by the other? There's this Venus conjoined Jupiter in Cancer. Jupiter exalted in Cancer right before she squares Chiron in Aries for the last time. So it's this dose of I am held and knowing and understanding Jupiter that I am held. And then this final little test to the pain point of Chiron in Aries to I am held even when I don't abandon myself. And then we have Venus in Leo. June 14th. She's by her
AMALIAnodal season, right? Or no, that's like August.
KELSEYYeah, it's coming up on nodal season. So once again Venus precedes some other intense astral weather in Leo. It's right ahead of Jupiter's ingress Leo too. So what I'm looking at right now, I just arrowed forward to June 25th. She's at 14 Leo. So she'll have passed her opposition to to Pluto. And the south node is at one Virgo going backwards about to come into Leo. And Jupiter is at 29, cancer going forwards about to come into Leo. So Venus once again there's this feeling of Venus being ahead and like attuning us from the dark. That's like a pattern that I'm starting to see, right? Like Venus. The chart I'm looking at right now, June 25, Venus is smack dab in the middle of Leo. Leo, Jupiter and the south node are like about to come in and there's a significant moment of this year is the Jupiter south node pile up which will happen here later with Mars present as well, squaring Venus's retrograde To come.
AMALIASo that feels important because that's just this area. Wherever Venus is tuning you into your life is about to get a lot
KELSEYof action in Leo. Yeah. In your Leo house. Yeah.
AMALIAYeah. For the rest of. I mean for basically a year it will be getting a lot of action. Yeah. That just feels good.
KELSEYYeah. So over the summer there's like possibility over this. Let's get the exact dates here. Venus Ingress starting June 13th and until July 9th, which. Okay, so Venus is in Leo for this big moment on the fourth of July when the Mars Uranus conjunction and Uranus in Gemini happens. Happens. This is all with Venus in Leo. Venus is like. I mean this is deep self attunement Venus in Leo, right?
AMALIAYeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
KELSEYWhat was that sigh
AMALIAI was thinking about? Material world. Like that's just gonna be such a loud moment. And I think Leo with its like center of the solar system vibes will be like. Yeah, I can just. I don't. I was.
KELSEYWhat does it mean for me?
AMALIAWhat does it mean for you?
KELSEYNo, no, no, that's not what I meant. I mean, that's the question of Venus scenarios. What does it mean for me?
AMALIATotally.
KELSEYYeah. I had this kind. I wonder if this is related to any of what you just were feeling in that moment of a sigh. I had this moment in the Mercury convo where I can't remember exactly what it was we were looking at, but I just had this hit looking at the astrology later in the year of Mercury and Venus retrograde in Scorpio squaring all the Leo stuff where I just had this hit of oh, there's something here that's like something just happened and all I can afford to do is pay attention to what it means for me. And I think that that feeling for me is very influenced by my understanding of the new keys coming in. 34, 2057, 51 and the busy being me taking care of myself and the shock. And I had this kind of harrowing moment moment of oh shit. Like oh shit. For there to be this. It felt similar to early 2020 where there's something so huge and collective happening that's so significant, but that somehow forces us to confront things from a very centralized place. So that's kind of. I'm seeing there's like a something in the summer that happens that's like all consuming. But then the relevance becomes this Venus evening of like can I wait for dusk and attune to figure out what that means for me and not let my system become so overwhelmed by the Call for my attention to leave my body and leave my sovereignty.
AMALIAOr even like as my system is overwhelmed, can I notice what that's like for me? You know, like, I think there's something so Venusian of just being like, oh, what is that like, you know, just like that's attunement, not change, but just notice, missing it. But I think there's just something, I don't know, ego is here for me. Like that moment, just knowing that that's also. Exactly when. Can you just state the transits again? Is that when Uranus moves into Gemini and Chiron moves into Taurus? Is that what you said?
KELSEYWhich timeframe you're talking about when Venus is in Leo.
AMALIAWhen Venus is in Leo, Yeah.
KELSEYHold on one sec. Venus goes into Leo on June 13th. Okay, so. So the big one I mentioned was that on the 3rd or 4th of July, depending on your time zone, Mars conjunct Uranus.
AMALIAThat's what it is. Okay. Mars is conjunct. Yeah.
KELSEYIn Gemini, which is like the one that the astrologers are talking about re Civil War.
AMALIAYeah. Right. And I think I'm just thinking about narcissism. And just like this feels like a polarizing moment with Venus being in Leo. Mars conjunct Uranus, Mars ruling everything. Conjunct Uranus nearly in Gemini. I think. Yeah, I think that was the initial one. I faced that thing. I was like, damn, shit's gonna be. Yeah. The opportunity for self resourcing and the kind of neutral observation of. There's a lot of ways that you can go when you're the center of your universe, you know, and chaos.
KELSEYI love that phrase. There is also. You said this, but I hadn't said it. The Chiron into Taurus ingress happens during this transit as well.
AMALIAThat's what I felt, that. Yeah, yeah.
KELSEYVenus in Leo holds the ingress, the first ingress of Chiron into Taurus and is ruling that as well and squaring by sign.
AMALIASo yeah, I mean, I think. Yeah, I just am having this, like I feel this. I don't know. Yeah. It's gonna be so loud. This moment will be so loud.
KELSEYI'm having.
AMALIASpeaking of the heat of summer, thinking about this is, I believe during av, which in the Jew lunar year is the month of anger, which is always really interesting for me to think about. There's this emphasis on grief. Grief. It's not the moment of anger, but it's righteous anger. It's grief. And all these holidays related to grief are in the heat of summer. And yeah, it Just feels like a hot moment. And I'm thinking about yeah, just like this moment that's afforded anytime Venus is in Leo, which is yeah like attuning to yourself as the center of your solar system. And I think there's a question that I don't have the words for here that are like how am I doing at the center of my. Are my values? Because Venus is always values. Are my values. Do I feel aligned with myself in the way that I'm the center of my universe? Because I think again in this moment there's a lot of ways you can be the center of your universe that are harmful. And I'm not trying to even go. It's not about judgment, it's just about. I think there's doing an energetic life body scan in this moment. The vibe that I'm getting this is
KELSEYalso Venus in Leo, opposite Pluto in Aquarius Trine, Saturn in Aries. And the Saturn in Aries is this fucking alignment. Alignment to your pilot light. Right? And Saturn is coming in to show us all the places we have not in. Yeah, right. And so this is Venus's first opening trine to Saturn in Aries as well. Which feels really significant. Like if Saturn in Aries is the start of this longer chapter of where the fuck have you been outsourcing your sense of integrity? This Venus in Leo is the first time Venus comes into your solar center and shows you something about that and also shows you how to get back into integrity with your own internal source.
AMALIAYeah, I really feel like values will be loud in this moment. Like this is a time to. Yeah, exactly what you said. Like check in with your integrity, check in with your values. Like where are you?
KELSEYThis is also like this Chiron in Taurus thing has been showing up for me since my convo with Jonathan as well. And this is just like. This is just our initial ingress of Chiron into Taurus. The final one happens in 2027. So we have three months of Chiron in Taurus this year starting June 19th. Basically exactly the same the summer we have Chiron in Taurus. And I had been really feeling into, you know, in Chiron in Aries, the primary stage, the primary setting and context for our deepest healing was through our separateness. And I'm wondering moving forward of Chiron moving into Taurus, of it being like through reconnection, right. And I'm thinking about like all the mental ways that we have othered ourselves from each other based on like political ideology and you know, like. And I'm just thinking about how crisis is one thing that can put us in a position of. And I'm of like becoming more localized. Like if crisis hits, whatever that might be. Are you going to disregard your MAGA neighbors? Right. And like that, like that's a longer term thing. I think we will be healing divide largely with Chiron and Taurus finding wholeness again. Healing ourselves through reconnecting where we had to heal ourselves and the Earth also
AMALIAreconnecting to the earth.
KELSEY100%. Yeah. But I'm seeing this possibility. I'm just seeing this Chiron in Taurus preview. This three month summer preview that happens at the same time as some of the biggest astrology of the year with the Uranus and Mars conjunction in Gemini and Venus in Leo is the one holding this. Or that's where we are tuning from Venus. And this piece you're bringing in about values is feeling connected to me to this Chiron and Taurus little hit I'm getting of like okay, it can't be about fucking political ideological values right now. It's about the like your fucking heart.
AMALIAYeah.
KELSEYLike what is your fucking heart? Where is it telling you to be? Where is it telling you to look? Who is it telling you to help? You know? How is it telling you to show up and take care of yourself and others like your fucking heart at the center of that. That's what this feels like. This Venus in Leo.
AMALIAYeah.
KELSEYWhen your heart is in your body.
AMALIAYeah.
KELSEYAnd this is all ahead of the Jupiter ingress to Leo as well. So that was Awhat did I say that Venus ingress to Leo was June 13th. And then we get Venus in Virgo.
AMALIAGo.
KELSEYStarting July 9th. At this point Jupiter's already in Leo by 2 degrees. So Venus in Leo ushers in Jupiter in Leo. Do you have something? You look like you have something.
AMALIANothing. I'm just thinking about us all after that moment with Venus in Virgo. Just sounds rough. It's gonna be a hard moment. Yeah.
KELSEYAnd you know who else is still there is the south node. So the second she enters Virgo she's hitting the south node which is at 0 degrees Virgo. She's in her place of somehow both detriment and fall. Good luck, babe. She's sextile by sign to the sun here. So she's like this is probably pretty close to maximum elongation at this point. Which. Yeah, maybe when she's slowest. Possibly we were trying to work that out. Don't worry about it. Maybe that's relevant for some. Someone. Yeah. And then what else? So she's gonna make her first opening square to Uranus in Gemini here. And this is days after the Mars Uranus conjunction in Gemini. So, yeah, just more indications of crunchy summertime.
AMALIAYeah. But there's August at that point.
KELSEYVirgo is like agency care. Right. So there's like, the south node in Virgo has been this. For me, and I think many. There's been this theme of, like, purging hyper vigilance. And you've heard me process Amalia, like, trying to find the line between hyper vigilance and care. Because it's not just hyper vigilance. Right. There's also care. So just feeling into this is. After what we just talked about with Venus and Leo is like your heart, you know, like, then Venus goes into Virgo and like, wow, this is. I mean, my partner has this placement natally. It's like such a deeply fucking caring placement. Venus in Virgo, you know, so she's going. Going in there and she's being careful. And this is her final pass with the south node. So there's this real opportunity for receptive clarity around. What is all the care that you've been offering from a place of masked control and hypervigilance. That's one of these final moments to really be paying attention to this recalibration of the nodes. South node in Virgo ago. Yeah. She doesn't aspect Saturn, Neptune or Pluto while she's in Virgo. So she has a trine to Chiron in Taurus. She's a square to Uranus and Mars in Gemini. She doesn't expect Jupiter here. So, yeah, she's like. It's interesting. I want to say she's quieter, but she's not actually. She's bringing this, like, relationship to care as a way to talk about Venus in Virgo. It comes very prominently in relationship to whatever the Mars and Uranus conjunction is. So whatever, like, civil unrest, whatever that's gonna be whatever chaos, whatever ungroundedness. And then, then August 6th, Venus in Libra. So now since the April transit of Venus in Taurus, this is our first time, we've got Venus back in a domicile sign.
AMALIAYeah.
KELSEYAnd this is where she's getting ready to station retrograde sort of to calm down. Yeah, yeah. August 6th, 6th, 0 libra. Once again, she's gonna. Well, yeah, okay. This. Okay. Venus in Libra, her dissect domicile pretty quickly after she enters. She enters this grand trine with Pluto in Aquarius and Uranus in Gemini. So there's this. All corners of the Air realm off are in flight together after whatever the July thing was.
AMALIAYeah, well, I think, I mean it's interesting because Venus is so much a part of just intrinsically. Venus is in some ways the other half to Mars. Right. Mars is the scissors and Venus is the glue. So already she's always carrying the signature of separation versus connection and maybe ways to kind of trouble that binary. And then I think I'm just still thinking, I don't know, I got caught up a little bit with the Venus in Virgo and the South Node being there and just thinking about, yes, hypervigilance, but also just the way that Virgo is the like it feels in ways about a separate. It's like separation. It's like all the different parts of Pisces, the whole, you know, and so just thinking about this, like whatever has just happened in Leo and then Venus kind of turning to Virgo and yes, it being like, like you said, not quieter but like less flashy, like more local, more like tending. But I'm also just like tending to this place that has been like been being kicked up by the South Node. Like what is being kicked up for the last two years. This sense of, yeah, like process and the way that things get splintered into all their different little pieces and perfectionism. And so I just, I'm thinking about Venus just doing some maybe aftercare and just like maintenance tending to this area that has been raw and then coming into Libra and now having this, like you said, this grand trine. And I don't know, I'm not sure that I land anywhere in particular, but I think I was just still sort of like that's like the energy that she arrives into this grand trine with. And what does that mean?
KELSEYYeah, I love that you like reoriented back to the particular feeling of Venus in like this blank slate Virgo. Yeah, is what it feels like because I actually went and looked the actual ingress of the South Node out of Virgo happens on July 26 while Venus is at 18 Virgo, which I think we still still have. We still have a Virgo pisces eclipse in 2027. Somehow like these Virgo Pisces eclipses are just fucking forever. But we do have the South Node egressed from Virgo into Leo for the final 12 degrees or 11 degrees of Venus moving through Virgo. And so yeah, I mean I have a very like, ever since the South Node went through my first house where it also transited my sect light the Moon moon in Sag. I've Had a relationship of reverence with the South Node, even though it hurts. That was one of my hardest transits ever, was my nodal square South Node through my first. But I have known myself so intimately and so purely since that transit, that the way that I relate to the South Node by transit now in large part based on how much that transit recalibrated me and everything that I got through the excessive purge that that transit was, is that what's left when the South Node is gone is fucking pure. Like it's real. And so I'm seeing this Venus in Virgo at the very last bit of it, the end of July and into August. Our relationship to all things Virgo, to our agency in the mutable Earth realm, our care is largely how it's showing up for me is like when the hypervigilance has been purged, when the. The care masked as control, masked as care has been shown and released. Like what's left is a really fucking sweet air.
AMALIAYeah.
KELSEYRight. And then that being the setup for Venus in Libra where we get to show back up in relationship to other and in relationship to external reality as a way to calibrate to remembering ourselves, to come back to how we were talking about Venus earlier, earlier. And as she enters Libra, now we've got south node, Sun, Jupiter and shortly after Mercury, all in Leo, opposite Pluto, north node in Aquarius. And so it's this grand Earth trine. But that it's also like a kite.
AMALIAGrand air.
KELSEYSorry. Yes, thank you. Grand eritrine. But then it's also this kite with this like huge. So it's like there's the air, there's a real significant mental something, clarity stirring upheaval coming through. But then there's now the LEO stack. It's like igniting something. Yeah. So all these themes of what does it mean for me and how am I and what is my heart saying at the center of it all is like.
AMALIASorry, go ahead.
KELSEYNo, no, no, you go.
AMALIAI was thinking about it and I think I don't know where this is coming from, but it feels like Venus presents in this moment an opportunity for levity. Like there's an opportunity at this point after already having been through so much this year, which is crazy because in some ways I think the Venus retrograde is going to be a huge. I mean, anyway. Okay, where was I?
KELSEYOpportunity for levity.
AMALIAYeah. I think there's something here that's like we're in some ways in the middle of two huge moments or what's feeling to me like, two really huge moments this year. And I think there's something about her role in the kite that's like. There's so much happening here, but, like, I get to have a different orientation to change. That's like, to me, what's coming, like, at this moment, like, late in 2026 now, the. There's. There's like. We've been through so much. We're gonna keep going through so much. And there's like a way where I can, like, levitate a little bit above it while still being present. Mm. Like a heart with wind. What it's feeling like.
KELSEYI love that. Yeah, it feels really connected to, like, a place that Lex and I ended. The Uranus convo is like this. Uranus in Gemini sextile. All this shit in Leo feels so placed playful. And when I think about Venus in Libra.
AMALIALibra totally devilish way, though.
KELSEYYeah. Well, Libra just does not feel playful to me. And I'm sure there's some subjective Aries stuff here, but yeah, Libra fucking is so serious sometimes it's just like. And so when I look at Venus and Libra, like, it's interesting to hear you get that hit. Because when I look at Venus and Libra on her own, I'm like, not fucking playful. She's like justice bitches, you know? But, like, as a part of this kite configuration, like, she's coming into soft aspect with both Uranus in Gemini and the stack in Leo. And that is exactly like where Lex and I kind of got to. At least one of the places we got to is like, yeah, shit's gonna be fucked. But we're gonna have the opportunity to understand the context of shit being fucked in a whole different way of attuning to it. And so Libra as the attun sooner coming. Yeah. I just am like, yeah, I feel that it's gonna be a very different version of Domicile day sect Venus than we have known thus far. It's like, yes, it's serious and yes, she's opposing Saturn and fall here.
AMALIAVenus in Libra to me is like the epitome of charm. That's how I.
KELSEYDiplomacy, right?
AMALIALike a diplomatic flirtation, maybe. I don't know. I mean, I'm like, flaky too, you know, like, there's something kind of like that lightness feels there. I hear the diplomacy and that sort of Saturnian Libra, but I think the Venus in Libra there is an element of like, the charm and the flirtation and even flakiness that feels like a Little bit to me.
KELSEYYeah. It's maybe, like, there's a diplomacy underneath, but it can, like, present, you know,
AMALIAI think in a light way. I don't know. I mean, we'll see what happens, right? But I think this is gonna be there. This.
KELSEYThis sort of like, hey, Siri, remind me to text Amalia on all. Thanks, please.
AMALIAYeah. Yes.
KELSEYOr like, hey, everybody, let's be checking in on this and ascend into some. Oh, my God. You hear her? I don't actually respond. I never actually use her for that. I forgot that it actually works.
AMALIAThank you.
KELSEYYeah, yeah. Like, the diplomacy. Well, because I'm also thinking about she's opposite Saturn in Aries here. And, like, the title. I don't know if you saw the title of the Saturn episode that just went out, the last one.
AMALIAWhat is it? I think I saw that. I forgot.
KELSEYIt's for the freaks. Yeah. A lot of what Aliyah and I talked about is like, no, no, no, guys. There's no more, like, looking to external reality to, like, validate your integrity. You have to do that on the inside. And so there's something about that that's like, for the freaks. Like, things are getting freaky. Like, something about that feels like what you're talking about with Venus and Libra, but it's like, it is serious. Like, it is serious. Like, we are addressing missing the ugliest, most harmful roots of things on the planet and in the psyche.
AMALIAYeah.
KELSEYSo, like, it is serious, but we're gonna do it with fucking love, you know, we're gonna do it with charm. Like that. That's kind of how I'm feeling into it. It's like. Yeah. The opposition to Saturn in Aries is like, it's diplomacy, but it's like freak flag diplomacy.
AMALIAYeah, yeah. And again, beauty. Where is the beauty arts really important. Yeah, yeah. I wonder if there's something. I mean, Venus in Libra also feels so expressive, you know? And so I think there's like, something here of like, again, that original thing of, like, Venus feels like it presents the opportunity in this, like, intense kite situation. And I think maybe to me, I'm getting this sense of expression, like, expressing, like, not just taking it all in, holding it, going into free freeze. But how do you express what's here for you? There might be opportunity. Yes. In the play and also just in the ability to express what's going on in this moment. To me, Venus can always be about presence. And in this moment, how can that presence involve expression? Self expression, which feels like it will be an important piece of metabolizing. What's going on in that moment? Mm. Mm.
KELSEYShout out to Lab Partners Episode the world is burning. What is it?
AMALIAWhat is it? I think it's the world. And Shane, is that. It was something about. I don't know. I don't remember. It was long.
KELSEYHold on. I want to find out. Sorry.
AMALIAGo for it. I'm getting a second wind.
KELSEYNice Metabolizing shame. The world is burning and we are creating. Creating hell.
AMALIAYeah. That feels. Yes, thank you.
KELSEYThat feels like that.
AMALIAThat was important. Yeah, yeah.
KELSEYThe. The language of that felt very important when we were deciding on it. And it feels like what we're talking about.
AMALIAIt feels so much. Yeah. I had forgotten. But you're right. That feels so exactly like this.
KELSEYAll right, and then we've got.
AMALIADrumroll.
KELSEYYou know what is funny? I was going to wait to say this to you till after we're recording, but I'm saying gonna say it now. Like, of all the things we thought we might talk about, we did not think we would do this. Neither of us prepared for this. And yet this feels exactly like the thing we love doing.
AMALIAYes, totally.
KELSEYWhich we normally do with like a natal chart or some tarot. We're just reading the natal chart of the year. It's fun.
AMALIAYeah.
KELSEYOkay, then. September 10th, we have an ingress of Venus into Scorpio, baby. Which actually she'll already have been in her pre retrograde up shut shadow starting when she was at 22 degrees Libra.
AMALIAYeah.
KELSEYSo yeah, we're in the shadow period before we get to September even. Actually, let me see if I can find that date quickly because it feels like one of the things in linear time that is useful. Shadow begins August 31st.
AMALIAMm.
KELSEYWhen she's at 22 Scorpio. Sorry, 22 Libra. Then September 10th, she enters Scorpio. Chiron is now retrograde at 0 degrees Taurus. So she meets a retrograde Chiron as soon as she enters Scorpio. She rules it and meets it in opposition.
AMALIAMm.
KELSEYShe squares Pluto right away. Pluto retrograde at 3 Aquarius. Mars is in Cancer at this time. So there's an opening trine between Venus and Mars in fall in Cancer. And yeah, I mean this is getting into Venus retrograde in Scorpio territory.
AMALIAYeah.
KELSEYWhich will overlap with the Mercury in Scorpio that Vince and I talked about a few episodes back. Mercury retrograde in Scorpio.
AMALIAI mean,
KELSEYso I guess maybe worth saying too that this whole time that we've been like this whole last bit that We've been talking about with Venus in Virgo recalibrating to care with less hypervigilance. And then Venus in Libra and the charming diplomacy of that and metabolizing shame and creating while the world burns. That is all as Venus is rounding the corner and getting closer and closer to plan planet Earth as she will conjoin the sun in her inferior conjunction, complete an eight year cycle and make her very final rebirth moment in Scorpio of a hundred years.
AMALIAYeah. What a descent. It really. I think I'm almost like. I don't know, you just said so much and I think I'm just sort of drifting into the felt sense of dissent and especially ruling Chiron and Taurus at that point. This sounds truly. It sounds painful and deeply emotional. And I think what I'm thinking about is, yeah, what are you carrying when you disagree end like what is your light source? And how do you take care of your body? And how do you prepare and not prepare in a brace yourself way, but how do you resource yourself in those moments? That's what feels like it will be live in that moment. And I actually wonder astrologically, if we look at that chart, it's not in front of me, but what do you see when you're looking at that chart? Where might we look to resource and that moment?
KELSEYWhich moment are you talking about specifically?
AMALIAWell, just in this time period where she's descending down into retrograde.
KELSEYRight. What did I say? She enters September 10th and she stays in Scorpio the rest of the year.
AMALIARight? Yeah, but I guess. Yeah, but I'm curious.
KELSEYNo, I hear what you're saying and I want to go there too. I just needed to have that moment
AMALIAjust to make that clear. Yeah.
KELSEYShe enters Scorpio and this is where she ends the year and like the
AMALIAlast third of the year. Right. Like it's a significant chunk, almost all
KELSEYof September, then October, November, December.
AMALIAYeah.
KELSEYWhat did I. Was that all of it? Yeah, October, December. Yeah, yeah. She rules from Scorpio the egress of Chiron into Aries too. So Chiron moves back into Aries at the very end of summer. So it's a couple weeks of Chiron in Taurus and then into Aries. Um, yeah. What do I see? I mean I want to go to the Cazimi, I think and look at like that as the chart that you're taking in. I mean my eyes keep going to the square to fixed fire. So we'll have. At the time of the Cazimi of the Venus Inferior cazimi. Mars will already be in there on October 23. Venus has been there for a month and a week already. A month and almost two weeks. And yeah, Mars, Jupiter and the south node are all getting closer and closer to each other in Leo. Mercury is stationing in Scorpio. The sun is at zero Scorpio. The cazimi happens as one of the things we talked about was we've got the sun in fall in Libra for 30 days, and Venus will have been in detriment in Scorpio for more than 40 days at this point, I think. I don't know if that's right, but I remember looking at that in my research. And then they meet together at 0 Scorpio. And as they cross paths, they. They improve their dignity. So we've had this fallen sun in this detriment, Venus. Then they meet at 0 Scorpio, where the sun leaves its fall. And right after that, Venus goes into domicile retrograde in Libra. But she's not done with Scorpio, right? Cause she'll turn around and go back. So, yeah, it's this meeting of the consciousness that is the sun and the receptive clarity that is Venus. This in a really hard time. And it's all square, fixed fire Leo. And I see that, like, fixed fire Leo. I mean, I want to say, too. Fixed squares feel the hardest to me. They're so mucky. They're so mucky. I think I said this in the Mercury episode, that a mutable square almost doesn't even feel malefic because mutable signs are like, oh, no, you go, okay, it's fine. Cardinal squares feel malefic, but they feel cardinal. Cardinal signs like to fight, I think. Yeah, so it's like, you want to fight? Fine, let's fight. That's like the energy of a cardinal square. But fixed squares don't want to fucking fight. They don't want to deal with you. They want to be in their elemental realm. And the fact that someone else is over there advocating for this other elemental realm, it's like, are you fucking kidding me? It doesn't want to do it. Fixed squares feel really hard. So I see this scorpionic fixed water Venus over there, the sun over there. At this point, the sun is ruled ruling. The Leo stuff, we're just starting to calibrate to south node in Leo, which I think is gonna bring a really humbling. I don't know, people are excited about Jupiter in Leo. I don't think. It's not gonna be your classic lion you know, the south node there is like, it's showing us something. It's getting rid of something.
AMALIAI'm going to one.
KELSEYYeah. And like the Aries Scorpio to come back to Mars in charge this year. At this point in time, Mars is ruling pretty much everything. You know, we've got a lot going on in Aries. We've got a lot going on in Scorpio at this point, including the sun in Scorpio, which is ruling like almost everything else in Leo. So it's kind of interesting. There's like all this Mars stuff, but the two Mars signs don't aspect each other. So, like there's this alchemy happening, this transmutation, Ari's word, happening under Mars's watch. But from both ends of Mars's work, from the Aries end and the Scorpio end that do not see each other. Like, the birth moment and the death moment are obviously the same. Like they're two sides of the same thing, but they don't interact with each other. There's no knowing one in the other. But then there's this fixed fire Leo stuff that is bringing it together through square to Scorpio and Trine to Aries. Aries. No idea how to translate that, but
AMALIAthat's what's sticking out for me is like, it's Venus, right? Venus is having a hard time, but she's having a hard time becoming herself within you. And ultimately she will. And I think to me, what it feels like this moment will be is through a lot of pain, pain and scratchiness. I think she's gonna help us move. She's gonna help us connect things within ourselves that we didn't know, need to be connected in order to move in a more whole way through this transit. And that feels true even in the way that you're seeing where there's Aries stuff happening on one end and Scorpio stuff happening on the other. To me, that feels like, you know, oh, I didn't realize that. Like my job actually had to do with my relationship or whatever. Like there's like something happening where there's this like. Oh, like actually this is the, like, you know, these crunchy fixed moments, these crunchy square moments where you're like, what needs to shift so that this tension can release. I think there's something surprising that feels like it's happening here where you're like, oh, that's the thing that needed to shift. Like, oh, like, I didn't even know those two were related. I knew these other pieces were Related, but I didn't know those.
KELSEYAnd something comes together like from the deep dark depths of something.
AMALIAYeah. And you really have to go deep. Like this feels like this is really gonna be going all the way deep to be like, oh, that's the thing that like needed to happen to provide
KELSEYsome relief, which like, you know, none of us know how to factor in the actual like Kronos time unfolding of the global cycle key change, because it happens every 400 and some years. But. But like I just want to point out this is happening like on the fucking eve of that. Like we're talking about the last months of 2026 where the actual 2027 key change happens February 15, 2027, early in the year. So that's just feeling relevant to me. This deep excavation, it's final in so many ways. It's like the end of this eight year cycle. It's the end of the calendar year. It's the end of life per the zodiacal orientation of birth in Aries, death in Scorpio. It's the end of. Did I already say the hundred year cycle? It' the cross of planning and the cross of Maya. Which is kind. Yeah, kind of interesting. Well, yeah. Cross of planning, cross of Maya. Like this like Earth materially focused realm that was the cross of planning and the cross of Maya and like this final death sign, Cazimi, the final one in a hundred years. Yeah. There's just something feeling very final about.
AMALIAFeels like deep grief. Like to me this is like grief work feels like such a like crucial part of death work of, of ushering in something new. And I think, yeah, there feels like some really important grief work that happens in this moment or that's available to engage with in this moment. Yeah. And often like that's what connection feels like. You know, I think, think for me in these moments where I'm like, I'm feeling like anxious or I'm feeling tension and I'm like, what is it? Like I don't even know what the thing is that I need to feel to be able to get to the other side in an emotional way. For example, I think often it's like the moment that I get to start crying that I get to start to express is a moment of connection. It's like I'll be sitting there in the disconnection and the disconnection and then someone will call me and I'm like, oh my God, thank God you're calling me. And then I start sobbing. And that's like the vibe that I'm Getting in this moment is actually just to real. Those disparate parts that we didn't know were connected in that moment. That's when we actually get the grief. The grief that we need to be able to then enter 2027 in a new way.
KELSEYLike let the wave crash on the shore like it's going to.
AMALIAExactly. Yeah, yeah.
KELSEYWhen I did my Zodiac project where I did all these things for each solar ingress, the Scorpio song is. Is about that. It's about not resisting the sky turning gray, letting all of that happen because there is no other side without it. I mean, yeah, the cliche only way out is through. It's like that. But we had kind of forgotten. Well, I had forgotten we were making a big deal out of Venus being in Scorpio for these last four months of the year. But there is like maybe a little clearance when she does go back into Libra while she's retrograde. And that's actually a pretty long time. That's October 25th through December 4th, so November and then an extra couple days on either end. So, yeah, just offering that. There's this little. And she's direct for part of that as well. She stations direct on November 13th. She stations direct at 2251 Libra. And then December 4th, she's back in Scorpio for the end of the year. So her Libra opposition. She has a Libra opposition to Chiron, who's back in Aries at this point. She's in a pretty tight sextile as she stations with Mars at 24, South Node at 25 and Jupiter at 25. So she's sextile style, which is her own aspect. So there's a lot of Venus support from a home sign, this really intense pileup in Leo of Mars South Node, Jupiter mid November. So yeah, I don't know, kind of back to that charming diplomatic levity a little bit while the sun is still in Scorpio. But now it's.
AMALIAI feel like there's an intellect in Libra too. I feel like that might be our moment to. Especially since she stationed there to be able to. And with these sextiles, I think that might be a moment of like the. The breath of like in like the intellectual piece of like that that's gonna maybe be like a. Well, I mean, I was thinking earlier like when you were talking about. I don't even know what. But this thing was coming of like. Oh, this feels like a real, like, real painful calibration moment of like heart, ego, mind, like work. You Know, and like those. Those parts being like, how does my heart. Like this whole year, honestly thinking about all this Leo presence too. But like, my mind and my heart and my ego kind of in right relationship with one another, which starts by being like, what relationship are they with each other right now? You know, there's this accounting moment that happens with Leo and then there's this deep, deep, deep kind of tower moment in Scorpio that's like, okay, and now what are we gonna do about it? What needs to alchemize? And so I see this moment in Libra and then stationing with these sextiles being like, now my mind gets a little bit of a like, oh, this is a little bit of what just happened, you know, and then gets to station direct and go back in through Scorpio with a little bit more clarity.
KELSEYI love that you just made the connection. Heart, ego, mind. And where that's taking me is back, like zoomed way out. This theme that you echoed back to me from the Pluto episode that stuck with you of like, with all this action in Leo Aquarius and seeing that as like ego month mind, there's going to be some kind of recalibration to ego mind, which to me feels like the same thing as this thing I keep bringing up of like, what even is collective reality? Like, what role does it play in my life and who am I within that? Like, recalibrating our relationship as individuals to collective reality. And you know, when I think about this from the human design perspective, like, we are designed to experience ego mind. Like, it's not an end goal to eradicate ourselves of ego mind. Right. There's like a really mental, shallow, dogmatic approach to human design that would look at it that way or that maybe we all rigidly come to at points. Yeah, but that's not the goal is not to eradicate ourselves of the experience of ego mind. The goal, if there is one, which there's not, that's too linear, is like to have a heart LED trajectory through the illusion of separation of ego mind. Right. And like, the heart more commonly for some reason is referred to as the ego in human design. But like, to me, the heart is both the G and the ego. And the G specifically is like this magical place per the human design system where we are each like led along the unique geometrical line line of our trajectory through life. So, yeah, I'm just really feeling into Venus's role and the way that you're talking about it here in offering us a sense of connection to our Path to our self, moving through space and time and offering to put us in right relationship with ego mind. In a relationship with ego mind where heart is like the filter, her heart is the directive.
AMALIAYeah, Yeah. And I think there's something I was talking with you before we started recording today about how I've learned from one of my teachers and this really stuck with me the way that they said every time you go through an initiation, you're tested immediately right after. And so it's like you're given this opportunity, opportunity to really solidify the initiation and the way that you are changed by responding to something that you would have responded to differently pre initiation. And that's this vibe that I get when we've been attuning to this Venus in Libra, Pisces and Taurus, right at the end of this deep, big grueling work that we've been put through, we have this moment, Venus in Libra at the end of the year to say, okay, now after this initiation, how do you now relate to other people, to the world outside you, to material reality? How do you reflect differently post initiation? What do you see differently in the world around you? How do you relate differently? How are you different? You know, this like boomerang effect of like consciousness that happens in Venus and Libra that feels like the post initiation calcification of a new you, like opportunity to reflect and new you.
KELSEYAnd if you. Yeah. Pull it back to this like weird accidental framework that we sort of ended up relying on to structure the tail end of this convo. The second half of this convo is like we can attune to Venus most explicitly when she's in Taurus, Libra, Pisces, and then like to kind of zoom back out. We have now the Pisces one. We're doing it in this conversation. Then we've got the Taurus one, which we broke down. And this Libra one is the last one of the year, but is interrupted by this Scorpio ingress and station and Cazimi, this whole big Scorpio moment. Square Leo. So yeah, it's like this final opportunity to attune to Libra, to attune to Venus in 2026 is like, yeah. Laden with this other initiation, this other realmly Venusian challenge. Challenge. Yeah.
AMALIAYeah. I don't know. There is something that's like this whole year feels like very initiatory to me. And I do think there's something. I think it's like if we make it through it, there's sweetness at the end, is what it feels like to me. And there's like, we relate differently at the end of this year. At the end of this Gregorian year. Like, the way that we relate has. Has been like, deeply changed.
KELSEYYeah.
AMALIAGod willing.
KELSEYAnd I keep thinking about like this. I keep having this sensation of like the summer. The way that we experience this summer and fall having some kind of callback to like the level of change that happened in 2020. Like just the way that there's something. And I don't. You know, the whole. This whole series unfolded as like, inspired by people in my community being like, everything's so doomy. I want a way to like, take in information about the astrolog this year that's not doomy. And it's funny because here I am ending up in the final moments of the final convo of the series being like something fucking big, you know, like as big as. But like, look at everything that came from. Like, we are calibrated to new possibility around our energetic capacity, around our self sovereignty. Like, we, like, it's all been happening in the dark still. Like the new world has not taken form. But in many ways, because of what happened, that disturbing, disrupted status quo in 2020, because of that disruption, we are calibrated to so many new possibilities. And that's the piece that I feel connected to. Like, I don't Venus relevance. It doesn't feel relevant to my open head to worry about what the thing is that's gonna happen. It doesn't matter. Like, that doesn't matter to me. Not that it doesn't matter as in the harm that may happen happen. Not that. But like, the relevance is how does it change us? What possibility does it show us? How does it like completely alter the way that. Exactly what you just said, the way that we relate to ourselves, to each other, to our lives, to the planet. That's what feels like when I look at the astrology of this summer and fall. That's what I feel is like something is happening that changes us in a way that can't be undone, which is happening every single day of our lives. Lives. But with the level of gravity that 2020.
AMALIAYeah. And I think there's. With all so much doom comes from. Again, I talked about in the first episode, this desire to control and the just reality of how little actually we can control. And so I think there's a way where you can look at this as what's gonna happen and what do I not know? And I think the invitation is to connect to what you do know. And I think among you know, you can know yourself as well as you know yourself right now. And like, how can you be in relationship with yourself over the course of this year as all of the unknown things continue to unfold, what do you know? How do you relate to yourself and what do you continue to know that feels like those things feel. I mean, again, this is very sponsored by Saturn, Venus here. But in many ways I feel like there's nothing else and everything else is extra, right? Everything else will continue to be filtered through who am I, how am I relating to myself? And what do I know?
KELSEYComing back to some stuff we talked about really early on as we were feeling into what is Venus? As we calibrate to her in the sky. And some stuff that you and I didn't actually even talk about on the recording, but that we talked about when we try to tune into Venus technically. There's actually just so much much that it's kind of overwhelming. And coming back to Venus exalting in Pisces, which is like the most overwhelming sign because everything is there. There's like this thing you're bringing in of knowing yourself through whatever the changes are of this year. There's also this piece that was sparking up for me just now, I mean, natal Venus in Aries too, of knowing yourself in each moment. And like, Venus is one of the fastest moving planets. Not only is she changing signs relatively quickly, but she also has this relationship like the Moon, as she moves around the sun, she has these different phases to us. We experience her invisible, we experience her as a morning star, we experience her as an evening star. So it's like there's so many different ways to know yourself, right? There's so many different contexts through which. Which you may be known. And as the south node moves through Leo, as Pluto moves through Aquarius, there's these huge recalibrations of our understanding of self from the plane of ego mind. So Venus this year is like, who are you? But who are you in every moment? Who are you now? Who are you today? Who are you in this paradigm? Who might you be in that paradigm? And the medicine that I'm getting from Venus in this moment, kind of as a culmination of how you been attuning me to her today and for weeks at this point and since I've known you because you are an agent of hers, is like, Yeah, like releasing us out of a rigidity of who we think we are too. Because we're different in every moment, because we're in relationship with something different in every moment. And letting Libra, letting our external reality change us too.
AMALIAYeah. Yeah.
KELSEYThat feels like Venus in Scorpio. Following Venus in Libra, like letting ourselves be changed by what we experience in the outer world.
AMALIAYeah, it's interesting. We've gone this entire episode without talking about love and that's so her.
KELSEYWhoops.
AMALIAI mean but to me I'm like, it's so obvious.
KELSEYBut I think Saturn and Mars ruled Venus. Sorry.
AMALIABut yeah, I think there's this. Yeah. You know, beauty and beauty and connection and relationship and self knowing. Like it's all love. And I think the reason that to me the doom isn't scary is because the love is not going anywhere. There is an infinite amount of love that is like still available no matter where Venus is and whether we can see her. And no matter how the love feels like you don't need to feel again. I keep saying this but like love is not the same thing as happiness. Beauty is not the same thing as happiness. You know, connection is not the same thing as happiness. I'm thinking about this feels like related to earlier things we were talking about. But I was having a conversation very recently with our friend Steph who was talking. Steph is an IFS guru and Steph was talking about how like ifs is the experience of like you actually like you unblend. And that's fine if people don't under like I'm not going to explain every but like you unblend from like for example, anger. I was talking about anger and she was like actually by not identifying as angry and instead trying to connect with anger like you, you afford more connection and more understanding of anger than when you're trying to identify as angry. Like you're too close and that moment to actually be able to connect with it. And there's something there that reminds me of inferior cazimi moments where you can't see Venus. So you actually are like, you're so close but you can't see her. Right. And then you have to go through that to get to the other side of actually being distant enough to be able to connect and being able to then talk about, thinking about. I was saying how I feel often more reflective in the superior conjunction moments because I'm far enough to reflect a little bit it and. And through all of those moments, love is here. It's all loving, you know, and like sometimes you don't feel happy when you're reflecting on love and it's still love.
KELSEYI'm having two thoughts that feel really good. One is like silly and it's like we've come back around to Venus exalting in Pisces as like the Lisa Frank unicorns and butterflies. It is that too. Even the dark gloom is also. That is kind of where we're coming back around to.
AMALIAYeah.
KELSEYAnd the other is like this thing you brought in with ifs and we have to separate to experience it. It's not the exact same thing as what we were talking about earlier, but it feels similar. And I just want to state the connection as an ode to Venus, because we're looking at. It feels like that Venus as a design of a web thing again, of how in human design and astrology, at least like the natal version of astrology, it's like we're taking everything apart to be able to attune to our parts so that when we put it back together, we feel more whole. And like that feeling we were saying where, like, I can get the same hit from learning about my Sagittarius Moon Month 1 of learning Astrology that I can get from this much more nuanced technical take. And that's the same thing happening as we look at astrology of time horoscopically this year through this series, we look at one planet. We're not actually looking at one planet. All of these conversations have been looking at all of the planets. Right. But it's like by simplifying it down to a part to attune to, we get a more potent, honest experience because we can only experience one thing at a time. Time. And yeah, it just kind of feels like another way that this. What is it to experience Venus is showing up like parts work is also that. Right? Like, we have to see ourselves outside of it. Libra in order to feel it in our own bodies. Taurus and then like, be connected back to the whole of it. Pisces.
AMALIAWhich really, like, maybe this is a good place to end if that feels good to you. But I think it feels like it solidifies this conversation. Feels like it really lands us at like, yes, this is like a deeply martial year. And that gives us a really different way to attune. It gives us a way to actually deepen our relationship with Venus. We've had all of these years now of like, what does it mean to connect with Venus when Venus is ruling everything, everything. Venus is still here now and she's not ruling. And so now we get a different way to separate us. Mars teaches us how to separate so that we can attune to her in this different way. And that's what's available to us this year in a different way than that was in previous years.
KELSEYYeah. Oh, my gosh. I love that. Because it's like Venus not being in charge isn't something to fear. It's like Venus doesn't have an agenda this year. She's not busy. So we can go to her whenever
AMALIAyou think to us directly instead of through other planets.
KELSEYYeah, yeah. She doesn't have to, like, yeah, micromanage. Uranus this year or Saturn in Pisces. She's just, like, here. She's, like, available for office hours.
AMALIAYeah. And for me, I'm like, okay, now I get to know while I'm grieving what Venus feels like, which actually feels deeply stabilizing to me. To not knowing that. To not knowing this is what a sacral yes feels like when I'm in this moment. You know, that actually deepens my relationship to a yes, that deepens my relationship to Venus to know what she shows up, how she shows up in this moment. And I think that's. Yeah, that feels like what's available for us. And that's what we're invited into this year. Beautiful.
KELSEYThanks for bringing love in. Oops. It was here the whole time.
AMALIAIt was here the whole time.
KELSEYAnything you want to share? Plug invite.
AMALIAAre we done?
KELSEYNo, we're not done while we're still recording.
AMALIAOkay.
KELSEYI meant, like, well, with listeners.
AMALIAYeah, yeah, yeah.
KELSEYThis episode, like, might. The initial plan was for it to come out March 3, which is, like, if people listen right away on the eclipse. Is that the eclipse? Yeah, yeah, it is. But also a few days ahead of the first ascendant assemblies call, which for Earth and air risings will be March 7, and then fire and water risings will be March 14. That might still happen. But also the Uranus and now Venus episodes are, like, so fucking long that it's possible I'll decide to release them in two parts, which would probably mean that this would come out after the first one. So. But yeah, just to give you a sense of timing,
AMALIAwell, join Assembl and assemblies. I'm available to work with. I'm most excited about doing intuitive sessions in this moment, so certainly come to me for that. But I'm also available for human design consultation, for astrology work, for relationship conflict work, and for facilitation. If you're interested in creating ritual and, like, immersive group work, come collaborate with me and. Yeah, that feels like what's up in the moment.
KELSEYCool. I'll link your stuff. Great link in the places where links go. Great all right, peace out. Cosmic context 2026, folks.
AMALIAYeah, well done.
KELSEYIf you listen to the long I just like I want to know, say something, post something, write a comment if you're listening on Spotify. I have a I think by the time this episode comes out, I'll have started a collection on Patreon of like posts having to do with this series that'll be free because I want to share like some resources that people have mentioned so that exists. And one of the posts in that is like a discussion post. So even if you're not on the Patreon, you can leave comments there if you are. We have a channel for this in the Discord. But yeah, thank you all for being part of this weird thing that was many things within and without. Thank you, Amalia for starting and ending it with me.
AMALIAYeah, thank you. It's been a long thank you planets.