1 00:00:14,948 --> 00:00:16,583 Welcome, everybody to the Craft 2 00:00:16,583 --> 00:00:19,586 Beer Republic and to 818 brewing. 3 00:00:22,288 --> 00:00:23,256 Cheers, everybody. 4 00:00:23,256 --> 00:00:26,192 Thanks for coming out. Thanks for making some noise. 5 00:00:26,192 --> 00:00:28,528 I am Greg, host of Craft Beer Republic. 6 00:00:28,528 --> 00:00:31,831 I'm being joined by three gorgeous individuals. 7 00:00:31,831 --> 00:00:34,768 We'll just start away at the bottom. We got Mr. Blue Eyes over there. 8 00:00:34,768 --> 00:00:35,368 That's the homie. 9 00:00:35,368 --> 00:00:38,371 Chew your beer, Julio homies. 10 00:00:39,572 --> 00:00:42,776 And then the the taxpayer and the paper pusher. 11 00:00:42,842 --> 00:00:45,845 Yeah, it's Brian Olson right there. 12 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,850 And if you love the beer, you're drinking, this is the guy that made it. 13 00:00:50,850 --> 00:00:53,853 This is Derek Olson. Is all right. 14 00:00:54,487 --> 00:00:56,122 And if you don't love it, it's cheese fault. 15 00:00:56,122 --> 00:01:00,360 So afterwards these again all you guys for coming out here. 16 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,295 This is so much fun. 17 00:01:02,295 --> 00:01:05,298 We're here mainly because chew your beer 18 00:01:05,298 --> 00:01:09,069 was incessant enough to toxic. 19 00:01:09,235 --> 00:01:11,371 Toxic. And you like toxic liquor. 20 00:01:11,371 --> 00:01:12,338 Yeah, exactly. 21 00:01:12,338 --> 00:01:15,708 Wouldn't shut up and finally convince these guys 22 00:01:15,842 --> 00:01:20,146 to do a collab of fantastic proportions. 23 00:01:20,513 --> 00:01:23,116 So we'll get into that in just a couple of seconds. 24 00:01:24,617 --> 00:01:25,685 This one persona. 25 00:01:25,685 --> 00:01:28,888 Yeah. The Pacioli was used as a bribe agent. 26 00:01:29,222 --> 00:01:30,423 Apparently it worked. 27 00:01:30,423 --> 00:01:33,460 In fact, the Pacioli Queen is back there in the corner, 28 00:01:34,260 --> 00:01:37,464 so shout out to the moment you read. 29 00:01:38,264 --> 00:01:40,500 That was amazing. 30 00:01:40,500 --> 00:01:42,902 Real quick, a little housekeeping if you ever heard it. 31 00:01:42,902 --> 00:01:48,675 We hung out with Brian and Derek in 2018, back on batch 122. 32 00:01:49,142 --> 00:01:53,379 So if you want to go back to like how it all started, how when they began, go back. 33 00:01:53,379 --> 00:01:55,782 Batch 122 Listen to that. 34 00:01:55,782 --> 00:01:58,485 Background's brewing history. 35 00:01:58,485 --> 00:01:59,919 Derek's a rocket scientist. 36 00:01:59,919 --> 00:02:01,387 You'll learn all about that. 37 00:02:01,387 --> 00:02:04,624 It's why he's always wearing rocket science T-shirts, right? 38 00:02:04,624 --> 00:02:07,627 I mean. Just. Tell me they still fit. 39 00:02:08,228 --> 00:02:10,964 It's at pandemic 15, 40 00:02:10,964 --> 00:02:14,767 and then what it took to get this place up and going to go back to 122. 41 00:02:14,767 --> 00:02:17,971 If you guys want to learn all about their history, and then someday, 42 00:02:17,971 --> 00:02:20,940 maybe we'll do a deep dive onto your beer and his history. 43 00:02:21,141 --> 00:02:21,941 Okay? Okay. 44 00:02:23,376 --> 00:02:25,345 My turn into a therapy session. 45 00:02:25,345 --> 00:02:26,880 So anyways, we are gathered here today 46 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,617 to talk about the union between two year beer and 818 brewing. 47 00:02:30,850 --> 00:02:33,686 Before we talk about the collab, let's just try the beer. 48 00:02:33,686 --> 00:02:36,256 I don't. I don't want to waste any more time. 49 00:02:36,256 --> 00:02:39,259 Who wants to tell us what the name of this beer is? 50 00:02:39,392 --> 00:02:42,495 The name of the beer is bland tastic. 51 00:02:43,296 --> 00:02:45,532 That's right. 52 00:02:45,532 --> 00:02:47,534 I like it. Thank you. Yeah. 53 00:02:47,534 --> 00:02:49,269 I wrote the Dream Warriors. Yeah. 54 00:02:49,269 --> 00:02:51,271 Drunk in the toilet is good. 55 00:02:51,271 --> 00:02:53,640 That's just kidding. 56 00:02:53,640 --> 00:02:56,643 It's a you know him? 57 00:02:56,709 --> 00:02:58,845 The Lou Gehrig. 58 00:02:58,845 --> 00:03:00,780 It's. It's a I don't know. 59 00:03:00,780 --> 00:03:02,749 I like desserts. I'm a big boy. 60 00:03:02,749 --> 00:03:06,186 I like sweets, and I like to drink my sweets. 61 00:03:06,186 --> 00:03:08,288 In what way? To make his make a beer. 62 00:03:08,288 --> 00:03:13,059 That's semi-sweet semi crisp leaning clear, you know. 63 00:03:13,092 --> 00:03:14,027 So that's. 64 00:03:14,027 --> 00:03:16,329 Is that you semi-sweet semi. Crisp white. 65 00:03:18,865 --> 00:03:19,499 That's a yes. 66 00:03:19,499 --> 00:03:22,502 No, I think so. No answers. The best answer. 67 00:03:22,769 --> 00:03:24,971 Glen is one of my favorite desserts. It's delicious. 68 00:03:24,971 --> 00:03:26,973 That's citrus leches. Cake. Yeah. 69 00:03:26,973 --> 00:03:28,808 Where did the idea come from? 70 00:03:28,808 --> 00:03:29,676 It was drunk. 71 00:03:29,676 --> 00:03:30,376 Hit my head. 72 00:03:30,376 --> 00:03:33,780 So I stars the set of a flux capacitor. 73 00:03:33,780 --> 00:03:35,982 As you said, you draw the line? 74 00:03:35,982 --> 00:03:38,251 Yeah, The blend capacitor capacitor. 75 00:03:38,251 --> 00:03:38,952 Yeah. Yeah. 76 00:03:38,952 --> 00:03:41,955 So instead of a DeLorean, it was in a 64 and follow. 77 00:03:41,955 --> 00:03:43,823 All the way back in 1955. 78 00:03:43,823 --> 00:03:45,425 There you go. Yeah. No. 79 00:03:45,425 --> 00:03:49,562 So it's just then when you eat and when you order it, 80 00:03:49,963 --> 00:03:54,033 you don't even Chewie, you just drink it, you know, you slurp, it goes down 81 00:03:54,033 --> 00:03:57,904 smooth and crisp and clear and when not make a beer. 82 00:03:57,904 --> 00:03:58,972 Yeah. You know, I. 83 00:03:58,972 --> 00:04:02,742 Don't think that's how I've ever described Flint, but that's just. Fun. 84 00:04:02,742 --> 00:04:04,344 You never drink when you get flying. 85 00:04:04,344 --> 00:04:07,013 Make that not drunk enough. 86 00:04:07,013 --> 00:04:09,282 Derek Chu, whoever wants to take this. 87 00:04:09,282 --> 00:04:10,817 How'd you guys come up with the recipe on this? 88 00:04:10,817 --> 00:04:12,318 I feel like this is probably a Derek question. 89 00:04:13,519 --> 00:04:15,822 Chu definitely drove it through with Bay. 90 00:04:15,822 --> 00:04:18,124 Hey, this is something I can drink. That's. 91 00:04:18,124 --> 00:04:19,792 That's. It is crisp. 92 00:04:19,792 --> 00:04:21,561 It does does have that. 93 00:04:21,561 --> 00:04:23,896 That sweetness has the 94 00:04:23,896 --> 00:04:27,900 the vanilla component and a little bit of calcium and texture. 95 00:04:27,900 --> 00:04:31,404 So that's those are hard, hard things to accomplish 96 00:04:31,404 --> 00:04:34,407 with a blond ale or not a bond to a. 97 00:04:34,540 --> 00:04:36,843 Gold and gold. And I. 98 00:04:36,843 --> 00:04:38,478 Love that description I. Gold, silver. 99 00:04:38,478 --> 00:04:41,314 When a man lands the gold. 100 00:04:41,314 --> 00:04:43,449 Where does that extra come from? 101 00:04:43,449 --> 00:04:46,419 We use. I actually screwed up in the 102 00:04:46,419 --> 00:04:47,453 the description of the beer. 103 00:04:47,453 --> 00:04:49,622 So don't pay attention that there's not wheat in it. 104 00:04:49,622 --> 00:04:52,625 It's wheat or wheat. 105 00:04:52,792 --> 00:04:54,927 It's oats. 106 00:04:54,927 --> 00:04:57,930 A mixture of oats and rolled oats and rolled barley. 107 00:04:58,531 --> 00:04:59,632 So that adds that protein. 108 00:04:59,632 --> 00:05:01,801 It adds the extra texture to the beer 109 00:05:02,735 --> 00:05:03,936 we used 110 00:05:03,936 --> 00:05:07,874 about, I think like around 25, 27 vanilla beans. 111 00:05:07,874 --> 00:05:08,207 Yeah. 112 00:05:08,207 --> 00:05:08,941 And finished it 113 00:05:08,941 --> 00:05:11,944 with a little bit of medium rose coffee I think some more like risk of cancer 114 00:05:12,045 --> 00:05:14,614 and yeah, the coffee gives it that complexity. 115 00:05:14,614 --> 00:05:16,182 So I was not familiar with it. 116 00:05:16,182 --> 00:05:18,618 So you're usually put. A little like. 117 00:05:18,618 --> 00:05:19,786 Kahlua on top of. 118 00:05:19,786 --> 00:05:22,789 This one when you're drunk. Yeah. 119 00:05:23,122 --> 00:05:24,691 No rules on he's drunk. 120 00:05:24,691 --> 00:05:28,861 Well, there's no rules when you're eating one man the calories go out the door. 121 00:05:28,928 --> 00:05:30,463 Yeah. It doesn't count. 122 00:05:30,463 --> 00:05:31,397 No, it's like ice cream. 123 00:05:31,397 --> 00:05:33,232 It's kind of like fills in the nooks and crannies. Right? 124 00:05:33,232 --> 00:05:36,002 I mean, when you're happy, nothing matters. Yeah. To his assistant. 125 00:05:36,002 --> 00:05:36,502 I think we got it. 126 00:05:36,502 --> 00:05:37,370 We got to have a little. 127 00:05:37,370 --> 00:05:39,138 A little touch of coffee, and I was worried about it. 128 00:05:39,138 --> 00:05:40,873 That would be too overpowering. 129 00:05:40,873 --> 00:05:43,209 And we were really light with it. And I think it just. 130 00:05:43,209 --> 00:05:46,212 It totally rounded everything out, given it the complexity. 131 00:05:46,245 --> 00:05:49,015 And so, yeah, you're going to get that vanilla note. 132 00:05:49,015 --> 00:05:53,186 It is still crisp, light sweetness that builds as you drink it. 133 00:05:53,186 --> 00:05:54,754 And that's like coffee. 134 00:05:54,754 --> 00:05:58,224 No, that gives you that complexity and, and, and richness, 135 00:05:58,358 --> 00:06:01,828 like the after flavor is just a straight like after you took a bite of one. 136 00:06:02,161 --> 00:06:05,231 Yeah. So I. Also. Put on it. 137 00:06:05,298 --> 00:06:08,201 Yeah. It really did. That vanilla really stands out to me. 138 00:06:08,201 --> 00:06:10,603 I don't know about you guys, but lots of vanilla. 139 00:06:10,603 --> 00:06:13,606 I like the any anything fancy about the coffee. 140 00:06:13,639 --> 00:06:15,241 No, we're in a rush. We just got it. 141 00:06:15,241 --> 00:06:16,042 All right. 142 00:06:16,042 --> 00:06:18,711 Well, yeah. It's first street coffee. Oh. 143 00:06:18,711 --> 00:06:19,746 Folgers. It's 144 00:06:21,247 --> 00:06:24,751 got. Well, very nice. 145 00:06:24,751 --> 00:06:27,387 It's good. Did it come out the way you guys envisioned it? Better? 146 00:06:27,387 --> 00:06:28,821 We're same different. 147 00:06:28,821 --> 00:06:31,824 Honestly, the way I thought about it is what I'm drinking in my cup. 148 00:06:32,425 --> 00:06:32,925 All right? 149 00:06:32,925 --> 00:06:34,160 I didn't want it too sweet. 150 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,163 I don't want it to bitter. I want it very. 151 00:06:37,263 --> 00:06:40,032 Just as you drink it, you get different notes. 152 00:06:40,032 --> 00:06:40,533 Yeah. 153 00:06:40,533 --> 00:06:44,470 And in my head, that's, you know, Derek is the artist here, right? 154 00:06:44,504 --> 00:06:47,373 I just come up with dumb ideas, and he's. Literally a rocket scientist. 155 00:06:47,373 --> 00:06:49,542 I got a lot of help over there in the brewery. We got. 156 00:06:49,542 --> 00:06:52,011 We got three, three amazing brewers over there. 157 00:06:52,011 --> 00:06:52,311 Our head. 158 00:06:52,311 --> 00:06:55,214 There are no but me out with the dosing and everything. 159 00:06:55,214 --> 00:06:56,449 I'm on the one barrel system. 160 00:06:56,449 --> 00:06:59,552 This, this is, this is a small batch so we've only got four 161 00:06:59,552 --> 00:07:00,720 or five gallon kegs of this. 162 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,489 So I drank it, passed a nano batch 163 00:07:05,191 --> 00:07:07,093 and we will definitely 164 00:07:07,093 --> 00:07:10,096 throw this one through again and. 165 00:07:10,897 --> 00:07:11,731 I. Promise. 166 00:07:11,731 --> 00:07:14,967 But yeah, so Ardo Ardo and, and the Brew team, 167 00:07:15,368 --> 00:07:18,938 Ivan Antonio definitely helped out with this one. 168 00:07:18,938 --> 00:07:23,042 So get good group of brewers here at 818 and we appreciate the challenge 169 00:07:23,042 --> 00:07:25,411 and always up to. It Let's make more. 170 00:07:25,411 --> 00:07:29,248 Yeah how much do we need to sell today in order to get this leg in 171 00:07:29,282 --> 00:07:30,850 on a semi-regular rotation. 172 00:07:30,850 --> 00:07:31,384 Of kegs? 173 00:07:31,384 --> 00:07:34,720 Often you guys hear that all four kegs need to go today. 174 00:07:35,621 --> 00:07:36,456 Once down though. 175 00:07:36,456 --> 00:07:38,925 Yeah, we're down one already. 176 00:07:38,925 --> 00:07:40,927 So record of the way there, guys. 177 00:07:40,927 --> 00:07:42,028 Good job. 178 00:07:42,028 --> 00:07:42,295 All right, 179 00:07:42,295 --> 00:07:45,865 let's get to some question, by the way, is everybody drinking the Fantastico? 180 00:07:46,232 --> 00:07:47,533 Okay. 181 00:07:47,533 --> 00:07:50,269 How much do you guys like it? 182 00:07:50,269 --> 00:07:50,803 Thank you. 183 00:07:51,804 --> 00:07:53,873 Make a good, cheap pop over here. 184 00:07:53,873 --> 00:07:55,708 Yeah. 185 00:07:55,708 --> 00:07:57,076 All right, let's get into some questions. 186 00:07:57,076 --> 00:07:59,312 Let's. Let's find out about these guys. 187 00:07:59,312 --> 00:08:01,914 Thank you to everyone that has submitted listener questions already. 188 00:08:01,914 --> 00:08:04,617 I've got some on my phone. I've got some papers right here. 189 00:08:04,617 --> 00:08:07,119 If anybody hasn't had a chance, there's forms over here. 190 00:08:07,119 --> 00:08:08,754 You can also scan the QR code. 191 00:08:08,754 --> 00:08:11,491 Those will come straight to me. 192 00:08:11,491 --> 00:08:13,993 Let's. Let's kick things off. 193 00:08:13,993 --> 00:08:17,430 Like I said, we caught up last in 2018 is November of 2018. 194 00:08:17,964 --> 00:08:19,832 We even know the homie chew your beer yet. 195 00:08:19,832 --> 00:08:22,001 It's where we met Fontana Gym for the first time. 196 00:08:22,001 --> 00:08:24,871 He was here and I'm sorry. 197 00:08:24,871 --> 00:08:25,538 I apologize, but. 198 00:08:25,538 --> 00:08:28,341 He's not here. It's all your fault. 199 00:08:28,341 --> 00:08:32,578 How have things changed around the brewery since 2018? 200 00:08:32,778 --> 00:08:33,913 I don't know if you guys are heard this. 201 00:08:33,913 --> 00:08:36,349 There was a pandemic of sorts. 202 00:08:36,349 --> 00:08:39,452 Uh, I hear you couldn't have people drinking beer for a while. 203 00:08:39,819 --> 00:08:41,354 I choose not to remember. 204 00:08:41,354 --> 00:08:44,357 That is what's changed in 2018. 205 00:08:44,390 --> 00:08:46,359 I don't know. We had to work through The. Whole thing. 206 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,963 Is there are no days off. 207 00:08:50,997 --> 00:08:52,532 Allotment. Damn. 208 00:08:52,532 --> 00:08:52,832 Yeah. 209 00:08:52,832 --> 00:08:57,103 It's so we have I guess we had a we, we, we took probably like 210 00:08:57,136 --> 00:09:02,174 about a solid two weeks off and then we, we just, we found out from our 211 00:09:02,174 --> 00:09:05,578 it was a brewers association and a craft CCP, a. 212 00:09:06,479 --> 00:09:08,648 California. Craft beer association. 213 00:09:08,648 --> 00:09:09,015 Those guys. 214 00:09:09,015 --> 00:09:09,649 Yeah yeah. 215 00:09:09,649 --> 00:09:13,252 Those guys that that, that definitely helped us a ton with 216 00:09:13,953 --> 00:09:17,089 information legislation and pushing that that craft breweries 217 00:09:17,089 --> 00:09:19,258 can be open through this through the pandemic. 218 00:09:19,258 --> 00:09:21,661 Yeah we're deemed essential businesses. 219 00:09:21,661 --> 00:09:24,063 We all need beer you know, we need to survive and yeah. 220 00:09:24,063 --> 00:09:24,497 We definitely. 221 00:09:24,497 --> 00:09:24,897 Need to keep our. 222 00:09:24,897 --> 00:09:27,900 Sanity. Yeah. So that allowed us to open up. 223 00:09:27,967 --> 00:09:30,403 We fought a lot of obstacles through that. 224 00:09:30,403 --> 00:09:32,905 Yeah, we were shut down by the building department. They came in here, 225 00:09:32,905 --> 00:09:35,374 tell us we can't operate, and we were just doing tacos. 226 00:09:35,374 --> 00:09:36,609 We're doing everything safely. 227 00:09:36,609 --> 00:09:38,911 Get people outside and six foot distance. 228 00:09:38,911 --> 00:09:41,347 We don't go out Growlers, growlers and everything. 229 00:09:42,915 --> 00:09:44,050 They tried to shut us down. 230 00:09:44,050 --> 00:09:46,252 We kept going because we had all this stuff 231 00:09:46,252 --> 00:09:49,889 from the sickbay and the, you know, our guild, everything up to the Capitol. 232 00:09:49,889 --> 00:09:51,991 And then 233 00:09:51,991 --> 00:09:55,294 the LAPD came down because they told me we weren't complying. 234 00:09:55,761 --> 00:09:58,764 And they basically said, hey, we're informed that 235 00:09:59,065 --> 00:10:02,301 that you're you're not in compliance with the law or whatever. 236 00:10:02,635 --> 00:10:05,438 But they were also a lot of regulars at the taproom. 237 00:10:05,438 --> 00:10:06,706 And so they're not going to do anything. 238 00:10:06,706 --> 00:10:12,211 So we kept going until the next week when they unanimously across the city 239 00:10:12,211 --> 00:10:15,214 approved us about two week, maybe two weeks later. 240 00:10:15,481 --> 00:10:15,915 Yeah. 241 00:10:15,915 --> 00:10:18,684 We're going to have to pull the easy on them now. 242 00:10:18,684 --> 00:10:20,820 Okay. Glad to hear it got here. 243 00:10:20,820 --> 00:10:21,988 I love that they're all regulars. 244 00:10:21,988 --> 00:10:24,690 It's like I'm like, Hey, guys, We were told to come over here. 245 00:10:24,690 --> 00:10:27,126 We don't really want to do that kind of thing. 246 00:10:27,126 --> 00:10:29,328 We're community brewery. We support. 247 00:10:29,328 --> 00:10:30,830 We support everybody in our community. 248 00:10:30,830 --> 00:10:32,898 And yeah, so. 249 00:10:32,898 --> 00:10:35,034 So we take care of each other. Yeah. That's amazing. 250 00:10:35,034 --> 00:10:37,703 What was one of the positives that came out of that chance was 251 00:10:38,771 --> 00:10:39,505 packaging. 252 00:10:39,505 --> 00:10:42,308 Yeah, reuniting cans before you were in cans before? No. 253 00:10:42,308 --> 00:10:45,311 Just bottles. We know. That's right. 254 00:10:45,411 --> 00:10:49,081 About a week into the pandemic, we, uh, we sat down and decided that everything's 255 00:10:49,081 --> 00:10:53,319 going to be packaging and we said we've got to buy canning line. 256 00:10:53,452 --> 00:10:56,022 Yeah. So. All right, So Cans was one of the nine. 257 00:10:56,022 --> 00:11:00,026 And as a consumer of beer cans have been great for me because, 258 00:11:00,059 --> 00:11:04,230 you know, go around pick up cans there you, um, since the last time 259 00:11:04,363 --> 00:11:06,932 you brought on some brewing help, you kind of alluded to it. 260 00:11:06,932 --> 00:11:09,235 Yeah. Who's who's helping you in the brewhouse these days? 261 00:11:09,235 --> 00:11:13,873 I have a head brewer now, so I'm no longer having to do the majority of 262 00:11:14,674 --> 00:11:15,441 the work out there. 263 00:11:15,441 --> 00:11:17,076 And I'm. 264 00:11:17,076 --> 00:11:19,412 I'm allowed to kind of be creative and. 265 00:11:19,412 --> 00:11:20,646 And have a team to support. 266 00:11:20,646 --> 00:11:22,081 Yeah. Bounce ideas off. 267 00:11:22,081 --> 00:11:23,849 So we've got three people in the brewhouse right now. 268 00:11:24,817 --> 00:11:27,820 Harteau is our head brewer and he still pretty new is. 269 00:11:28,020 --> 00:11:28,788 About nine months. 270 00:11:28,788 --> 00:11:31,791 About nine months and we have Antonio 271 00:11:32,091 --> 00:11:35,094 as assistant brewer and Ivan's our Soliman. 272 00:11:35,161 --> 00:11:36,696 They're just gelling, they're great team. 273 00:11:36,696 --> 00:11:38,431 They're, they're back, they're cranking it 274 00:11:38,431 --> 00:11:40,966 and yeah, pretty much drive the schedule, 275 00:11:40,966 --> 00:11:44,003 drive the ship and they handle it and make sure things are done correctly. 276 00:11:44,003 --> 00:11:45,104 And that's and. 277 00:11:45,104 --> 00:11:48,841 Both of our quality, both Ivan and Tony, come from, from our roots. 278 00:11:49,809 --> 00:11:51,844 So both of them worked in the tasting room 279 00:11:51,844 --> 00:11:54,847 as bartenders and now they're in the back brewery. 280 00:11:55,114 --> 00:11:57,016 Tony was SoCal service. 281 00:11:57,016 --> 00:12:00,386 Sarah We've we had one of their meetings back here that you can help put together. 282 00:12:00,386 --> 00:12:03,289 And so, yeah, I mean that's where our brothers are. 283 00:12:03,289 --> 00:12:05,191 Yeah, it's just kind of works. 284 00:12:05,191 --> 00:12:08,027 And is you one of your interns now or. 285 00:12:08,027 --> 00:12:10,196 And we're just, oh is it. 286 00:12:10,196 --> 00:12:11,330 I'm the homie that won't leave. 287 00:12:13,332 --> 00:12:14,633 You still looking for his paycheck. 288 00:12:14,633 --> 00:12:16,702 Some underpinning all. Yeah the red stapler. 289 00:12:16,702 --> 00:12:19,205 My DMS will never be the same. Yeah. 290 00:12:19,205 --> 00:12:21,907 Your dreams are there to be safe again to 291 00:12:21,907 --> 00:12:24,910 what was your your blue day like making fantastico? 292 00:12:25,411 --> 00:12:27,246 Ask my son. He's the one lifting all the heavy stuff. 293 00:12:27,246 --> 00:12:30,049 Oh, I was just the beautiful face. Oh. 294 00:12:30,049 --> 00:12:32,118 Everyone's got to have one. 295 00:12:32,118 --> 00:12:33,953 It was actually for me. 296 00:12:33,953 --> 00:12:36,489 Not the first or the last. 297 00:12:36,489 --> 00:12:38,257 Time. 298 00:12:38,257 --> 00:12:39,158 You see in Alabama. 299 00:12:39,158 --> 00:12:41,260 You know what? I'm terrible. 300 00:12:41,260 --> 00:12:44,463 It's exciting for some, you know, for a brewery, independent brewery. 301 00:12:44,864 --> 00:12:49,135 Two gentlemen to let you come in and ruin everything they've made. 302 00:12:49,168 --> 00:12:51,103 Yeah, that's everything. 303 00:12:51,103 --> 00:12:54,173 Derek's beers are mainly just core for, you know, 304 00:12:54,206 --> 00:12:57,877 water, hops, malt whiskey, a little yeast. 305 00:12:58,043 --> 00:12:58,410 Yeast. 306 00:12:58,410 --> 00:12:59,779 What I was gonna say time. 307 00:12:59,779 --> 00:13:02,782 But, you know, for that to take something like what I wanted 308 00:13:02,882 --> 00:13:05,851 that has a little bit of adjuncts to me means a lot. 309 00:13:05,918 --> 00:13:08,988 I really appreciate these guys for accepting 310 00:13:08,988 --> 00:13:12,758 me and my dumb ideas into the brewery and making something happen. 311 00:13:14,460 --> 00:13:15,694 You know, if you don't, if 312 00:13:15,694 --> 00:13:18,697 you don't chase your ideas or your dreams, you don't make them happen. 313 00:13:18,798 --> 00:13:20,933 And these guys were my tools to make it up. 314 00:13:20,933 --> 00:13:22,802 So I appreciate them. Hats off to them. 315 00:13:22,802 --> 00:13:25,304 The Brew day, you know, small batch, right? 316 00:13:25,304 --> 00:13:26,505 Not a lot of work. 317 00:13:26,505 --> 00:13:27,640 And they get you in there. 318 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,542 You graining out like you. 319 00:13:29,542 --> 00:13:30,910 Put in. Some labor. Hello? 320 00:13:30,910 --> 00:13:35,714 Well, yeah, but just that much alone means a lot to me. 321 00:13:35,981 --> 00:13:42,721 And I appreciate you, Derek and Brian, for accepting my idea and making it happen. 322 00:13:43,455 --> 00:13:45,691 My glasses empty. 323 00:13:45,691 --> 00:13:46,892 Well, cheers. Later. 324 00:13:46,892 --> 00:13:47,793 Yeah, exactly. 325 00:13:47,793 --> 00:13:49,929 Yeah, but I've got good ideas, man. 326 00:13:49,929 --> 00:13:53,265 I was just happy to have my son here and be part of it, too, at the same time. 327 00:13:53,699 --> 00:13:55,668 Who recently turned 21, right? 328 00:13:55,668 --> 00:13:56,669 Legal baby. 329 00:13:56,669 --> 00:13:59,972 Yeah, legal, legal. Alcoholic. 330 00:13:59,972 --> 00:14:01,106 Now, that's so good. 331 00:14:01,106 --> 00:14:03,242 What they call it D designated driver. 332 00:14:03,242 --> 00:14:05,110 Well, not anymore. Oh, damn. 333 00:14:07,046 --> 00:14:07,279 Yeah. 334 00:14:07,279 --> 00:14:07,947 All right, 335 00:14:07,947 --> 00:14:11,483 before we move on, the next question, we want to work a flight into here. 336 00:14:11,483 --> 00:14:13,519 Started talking about some beers. 337 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:16,288 It's two, four beers that I usually. 338 00:14:16,288 --> 00:14:21,193 This is my home base, so receipt array is my beer that I drink here. 339 00:14:22,294 --> 00:14:25,164 We're out of it because I was here and I drank it all, 340 00:14:25,164 --> 00:14:28,067 so I picked four other beers that I enjoy. 341 00:14:28,067 --> 00:14:31,103 Okay, while I'm here and we will 342 00:14:31,103 --> 00:14:34,607 enjoy and Derek would let us know what we are sucking down. 343 00:14:34,607 --> 00:14:35,074 Whoa. 344 00:14:35,074 --> 00:14:39,211 And everybody out there, you can order it and suck it down with us 345 00:14:39,745 --> 00:14:41,714 and enjoy what we're saying. This is. 346 00:14:41,714 --> 00:14:43,015 This is really important. 347 00:14:43,015 --> 00:14:45,117 So let's talk about the beer. 348 00:14:45,117 --> 00:14:46,085 That's in front of us. 349 00:14:46,085 --> 00:14:48,254 Derek, you want to kick this off? 350 00:14:48,254 --> 00:14:50,222 Yeah. About a girl. 351 00:14:50,222 --> 00:14:52,491 This is Valley Girl Blond. 352 00:14:52,491 --> 00:14:55,394 Now, this is our staple. Valley girl, blond. 353 00:14:55,394 --> 00:14:57,463 We we brew the most of this one. 354 00:14:57,463 --> 00:14:59,899 It's a blond girl. We brew with coarse yeast. 355 00:15:00,933 --> 00:15:05,838 5.6%, a little Amarillo lower Amarillo. 356 00:15:05,838 --> 00:15:06,538 Hop on the end. 357 00:15:06,538 --> 00:15:09,074 So you get some citrus, but yeah. 358 00:15:09,074 --> 00:15:12,544 Nice, nice, easy drinking but yet full full body of. 359 00:15:12,811 --> 00:15:16,582 So it's this is this is the route you go if you're not going for a lager 360 00:15:16,749 --> 00:15:19,351 you know lighter beer. I hate to call this kind of beer. 361 00:15:19,351 --> 00:15:21,553 Yeah it's like your football sun beer. Yeah. 362 00:15:21,553 --> 00:15:22,488 You're going to drink this all day 363 00:15:22,488 --> 00:15:24,556 and you'll still be able to watch the night game. 364 00:15:24,556 --> 00:15:28,494 This is the beer where you convert your wife into a craft beer drinker. 365 00:15:29,795 --> 00:15:30,896 This is the beer that. 366 00:15:30,896 --> 00:15:32,264 That to me is the true. 367 00:15:32,264 --> 00:15:36,802 This is the beer that made my wife, my writer guy craft beer. 368 00:15:37,303 --> 00:15:39,605 This is our gateway beer, for sure. 369 00:15:39,605 --> 00:15:43,575 I find that a lot of blonds and like salary type 370 00:15:43,575 --> 00:15:46,745 beers really help bring the non beer drinkers in. 371 00:15:46,745 --> 00:15:48,447 Hey, this tastes a little bit like a white wine. 372 00:15:48,447 --> 00:15:50,149 Come on in, everybody. 373 00:15:50,149 --> 00:15:51,850 The pool is fine. 374 00:15:51,850 --> 00:15:54,453 But yeah, this is great. 375 00:15:54,453 --> 00:15:57,056 All right, so let's let's talk about some more beer stuff. 376 00:15:57,056 --> 00:15:57,623 What's. 377 00:15:57,623 --> 00:15:59,024 I don't know who wants it? Derek. 378 00:15:59,024 --> 00:16:00,793 Brian, I'll. I'll let you guys choose. 379 00:16:00,793 --> 00:16:03,495 I know Derek does more to the brewing operations, 380 00:16:03,495 --> 00:16:06,131 but what's been your most In fact, you can both answer 381 00:16:06,131 --> 00:16:09,168 what's been your most fun or rewarding beer to make? 382 00:16:09,268 --> 00:16:12,271 And it can be like the most adjunct. 383 00:16:12,504 --> 00:16:16,175 Or maybe you made one where like, no cleaning was required afterwards. 384 00:16:17,209 --> 00:16:18,277 That's what happens. 385 00:16:18,277 --> 00:16:19,178 Yeah. 386 00:16:19,178 --> 00:16:22,047 I always I always default to like the worst. 387 00:16:22,047 --> 00:16:23,882 Those are the usually the most impactful. 388 00:16:23,882 --> 00:16:25,651 The worst beer. 389 00:16:25,651 --> 00:16:27,219 Huh? Value. 390 00:16:27,219 --> 00:16:29,588 You kind of start out as that. Okay. 391 00:16:29,588 --> 00:16:34,026 Now it's now I'd say probably now it's it's one of the more fun ones. 392 00:16:34,293 --> 00:16:39,064 I mean so we start up this test batch program and we have like eight taps 393 00:16:39,064 --> 00:16:42,301 dedicated to test batch beers and kind of one off seasonal stuff. 394 00:16:43,369 --> 00:16:46,071 Those those are definitely more on the fun end doing. 395 00:16:46,071 --> 00:16:50,142 We're doing the adjuncts, you know like with what you hear doing 396 00:16:50,275 --> 00:16:53,278 you know doing a fantastic over that that's 397 00:16:53,512 --> 00:16:56,982 that is fun it's R&D we're we don't know where we're going with it. 398 00:16:56,982 --> 00:16:59,685 We don't know what's going to come out of it. Just try things. 399 00:16:59,685 --> 00:17:03,889 So I'd say that the test batch, everything that's comes out of a test match is fun. 400 00:17:03,889 --> 00:17:07,726 We had a we did a Japanese rice lager that came out really nice. 401 00:17:07,726 --> 00:17:08,527 I tried that earlier. 402 00:17:08,527 --> 00:17:11,430 That was it's like the perfect sushi beer. Yeah. 403 00:17:11,430 --> 00:17:12,297 Nice and light. 404 00:17:13,298 --> 00:17:16,301 It's we kind of bottle that after 405 00:17:16,468 --> 00:17:19,471 the main goal was like the Kirin 406 00:17:19,738 --> 00:17:22,574 was a full press or whatever their standard. 407 00:17:22,574 --> 00:17:23,909 Yeah. Any sushi. 408 00:17:23,909 --> 00:17:25,210 Yeah. Sushi place in the valley. 409 00:17:25,210 --> 00:17:27,546 I appreciate that you like hearing with your sushi. 410 00:17:27,546 --> 00:17:28,013 I do. 411 00:17:28,013 --> 00:17:31,283 People look at me like I'm crazy that I don't order Sapporo with my sushi. 412 00:17:31,283 --> 00:17:32,684 I always get Kirin. 413 00:17:32,684 --> 00:17:35,354 I prefer Kirin Nice. Yeah. 414 00:17:35,354 --> 00:17:37,156 Size to dry support. 415 00:17:37,156 --> 00:17:39,324 Sapporo is good, but I used to drink Sapporo. 416 00:17:39,324 --> 00:17:41,160 But yeah, Kirin is. 417 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:42,061 We're going on. 418 00:17:42,061 --> 00:17:43,562 Sapporo makes a good IPA now. 419 00:17:43,562 --> 00:17:45,664 They do. Really. 420 00:17:45,664 --> 00:17:47,399 You know, Sapporo made any IPA. 421 00:17:47,399 --> 00:17:50,402 Stone Fruit IPA so that. 422 00:17:50,903 --> 00:17:51,470 Well. 423 00:17:51,470 --> 00:17:54,273 I'd say just just in general the test batch thing as far as like 424 00:17:54,273 --> 00:17:57,076 production, beers, production beer is just kind of become work. 425 00:17:57,076 --> 00:17:57,409 Right. 426 00:17:57,409 --> 00:18:01,180 You're you're, you have another day you have you have you're always 427 00:18:01,180 --> 00:18:03,382 you're brewing this once a week you kind of 428 00:18:03,382 --> 00:18:07,052 I'd say the easiest one is probably valley girl the worst is snuggles. 429 00:18:08,187 --> 00:18:09,922 Anything so I. 430 00:18:09,922 --> 00:18:13,258 Protein beer is just so to make the match. 431 00:18:13,559 --> 00:18:16,562 Delish. Just for cleaning reasons or. 432 00:18:16,762 --> 00:18:19,765 No just just to get just to squeeze the beer out of it. 433 00:18:19,798 --> 00:18:21,600 Oh it's just the produce work. 434 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,001 It's it's tough. 435 00:18:23,001 --> 00:18:24,036 I protein beers. 436 00:18:24,036 --> 00:18:26,238 You use a lot of 437 00:18:26,238 --> 00:18:29,241 either wheat or rolled oats 438 00:18:29,241 --> 00:18:32,878 and they, they tend to clog up the mashed and get stuck mashes. 439 00:18:32,878 --> 00:18:37,683 So have to be very, very careful honestly I didn't I coming into this 440 00:18:37,683 --> 00:18:41,253 we never kind of vowed we would never brew a hazy IPA 441 00:18:41,854 --> 00:18:45,591 and after getting pushed on and you guys need to do this we finally did it. 442 00:18:45,924 --> 00:18:48,927 And I regret regret it, you know. 443 00:18:49,728 --> 00:18:50,562 That it. Can happen. 444 00:18:50,562 --> 00:18:53,232 But when you drink it, it's it's, it's damn damn good. 445 00:18:53,232 --> 00:18:54,933 And I but so we're, we're happy with it. 446 00:18:54,933 --> 00:18:56,401 But it's it's definitely stressful. 447 00:18:56,401 --> 00:18:58,070 Oh, it's a lot more difficult. 448 00:18:58,070 --> 00:18:59,872 What are the name people. 449 00:18:59,872 --> 00:19:02,307 And the Chinese and the logo. 450 00:19:02,307 --> 00:19:03,942 The label. Snuggles. 451 00:19:06,712 --> 00:19:08,147 I don't think we really talk about that. 452 00:19:08,147 --> 00:19:10,149 Okay. 453 00:19:10,149 --> 00:19:13,285 Snuggles is a thing that you're required to do 454 00:19:13,852 --> 00:19:17,089 and you might not want to do it, but you do it because people want it 455 00:19:17,089 --> 00:19:18,357 and good results happen. 456 00:19:18,357 --> 00:19:20,459 So are we still talking about beer? 457 00:19:20,459 --> 00:19:22,828 May smoothies? 458 00:19:22,828 --> 00:19:25,831 That's yeah, I think I think the last time we all hung out, you were 459 00:19:26,064 --> 00:19:28,667 adamantly against making a hazy IPA. 460 00:19:28,667 --> 00:19:30,802 Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. So. So what changed? 461 00:19:30,802 --> 00:19:33,805 Why the hazy is it, is it just because it seltzer? 462 00:19:34,606 --> 00:19:37,609 The people demanded. A 463 00:19:37,809 --> 00:19:38,810 100% honest. 464 00:19:38,810 --> 00:19:42,214 I tried, but we tried to do this. 465 00:19:42,748 --> 00:19:45,751 I came up with a recipe in 466 00:19:45,817 --> 00:19:48,387 which which is very similar to what we have now. 467 00:19:48,387 --> 00:19:50,355 Just I did things slightly differently. 468 00:19:50,355 --> 00:19:51,757 Timing wise. 469 00:19:51,757 --> 00:19:52,824 It was a nightmare. It didn't. 470 00:19:52,824 --> 00:19:53,592 It wouldn't come out. 471 00:19:53,592 --> 00:19:56,195 Hazelwood The haze would drop out of it. 472 00:19:56,195 --> 00:19:59,198 It came out crystal clear with a good hop aroma out of it. 473 00:19:59,731 --> 00:20:01,333 And then that just became a challenge. 474 00:20:01,333 --> 00:20:05,170 Yeah, any time I've been challenged or told 475 00:20:05,170 --> 00:20:06,905 by someone I can't do something or it's. 476 00:20:06,905 --> 00:20:09,308 It's beyond you. 477 00:20:09,308 --> 00:20:10,209 I don't stop. 478 00:20:10,209 --> 00:20:13,045 That's so because it just became a challenge. 479 00:20:13,045 --> 00:20:14,880 So I just kind of pushed and push the person. 480 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:15,581 And I think that's 481 00:20:15,581 --> 00:20:19,384 the only reason why we got to where it was and and embraced it makes sense. 482 00:20:19,384 --> 00:20:22,287 And and Brian Brian pushed on me. Pretty much, I think, at that time, too. 483 00:20:22,287 --> 00:20:26,325 We also we were at that growing stage where a lot of the beers we made 484 00:20:26,325 --> 00:20:28,227 were ones that we enjoyed drinking, 485 00:20:28,227 --> 00:20:31,363 and then we would try the hazes that were on the market at that time. 486 00:20:31,363 --> 00:20:34,833 We we didn't enjoy them just like, you know, like the style of beer. 487 00:20:34,833 --> 00:20:36,668 So we're not going to make it. 488 00:20:36,668 --> 00:20:41,440 And then as we get requests for it, people want the, hey, I should make a hazy. 489 00:20:41,907 --> 00:20:43,075 And then that's exactly it. 490 00:20:43,075 --> 00:20:46,411 It became a challenge to you can't tell him like you can't do that 491 00:20:46,411 --> 00:20:49,381 because we'll figure out a way to edit it. 492 00:20:49,381 --> 00:20:51,850 So that that was it was just the right timing. 493 00:20:51,850 --> 00:20:54,853 Yeah. And it's a it's a fantastic beer. 494 00:20:54,953 --> 00:20:57,723 It's one of our, you know, worked out it's a core beer now. 495 00:20:57,723 --> 00:20:59,491 Was it the first haze you guys did. 496 00:20:59,491 --> 00:21:02,327 Yeah it's everybody's got like latched on to it like Oh hazy. 497 00:21:02,327 --> 00:21:03,595 Yeah I think it's. 498 00:21:03,595 --> 00:21:07,032 Been variations like the very first snow release is is 499 00:21:07,633 --> 00:21:10,402 is not the same as it is now. 500 00:21:10,402 --> 00:21:12,638 So we try to have you tried in the beginning trying. 501 00:21:12,638 --> 00:21:14,840 It evolves over time and. 502 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,542 All. Right and tapped as a as a friend and 503 00:21:17,542 --> 00:21:23,348 and a harsh critic low so it's we absolutely listen to feedback 504 00:21:23,348 --> 00:21:27,185 sure I every every Monday I go through and read all the Untappd reviews and. 505 00:21:27,185 --> 00:21:28,687 Oh, you're so brave. 506 00:21:28,687 --> 00:21:31,423 Yeah. Oh, no, no, I know. I reply. 507 00:21:31,423 --> 00:21:33,091 Do you really? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. 508 00:21:34,660 --> 00:21:35,093 And so 509 00:21:35,093 --> 00:21:38,096 and rates are you know, are. But. 510 00:21:39,264 --> 00:21:40,832 Gives our 511 00:21:40,832 --> 00:21:46,171 was a gravity hill like a one star because sorry they don't like. The. 512 00:21:46,204 --> 00:21:47,472 Belgians like. It. 513 00:21:47,472 --> 00:21:52,177 I, I love love hate reunions like I've done a couple of collab beers 514 00:21:52,177 --> 00:21:56,348 with a couple of different breweries and of course as someone who doesn't brew 515 00:21:56,348 --> 00:22:00,752 regularly or professionally, I don't know how harsh people can be per se. 516 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,356 And I go on there and it's like this beer sucks to start. 517 00:22:04,523 --> 00:22:06,725 No reason why it sucks, just sucks. 518 00:22:06,725 --> 00:22:09,728 Or one of my favorites and I think I've told this on the show before was 519 00:22:10,128 --> 00:22:12,631 it was the collaborative with Pedals and points to Guava 520 00:22:12,631 --> 00:22:15,634 Gosa and it was something like two and a half stars 521 00:22:15,967 --> 00:22:18,970 and the description said, Not as good as Joey's. 522 00:22:19,004 --> 00:22:21,573 Who the F is? Joey de Mayo. Joey over here. 523 00:22:21,573 --> 00:22:23,208 So anyways, yeah, yeah. 524 00:22:23,208 --> 00:22:25,944 Untapped is a is the devil. So. 525 00:22:25,944 --> 00:22:27,813 All right, before we move on, tell us. 526 00:22:27,813 --> 00:22:29,181 Tell us about the next beer in front of us. 527 00:22:30,315 --> 00:22:31,616 Yes. Oh, yes. 528 00:22:31,616 --> 00:22:32,951 Hell, yeah. 529 00:22:32,951 --> 00:22:35,087 It's an ode to Stone Cold. 530 00:22:35,087 --> 00:22:38,090 Steve Austin. Cheers. Cheers, everybody. 531 00:22:38,457 --> 00:22:39,758 There's all got that one standing. 532 00:22:39,758 --> 00:22:42,427 My microphone. 533 00:22:42,427 --> 00:22:43,261 I was as well. 534 00:22:43,261 --> 00:22:45,130 Cheers. Everybody that's out there were drinking to hell. 535 00:22:45,130 --> 00:22:47,032 Yeah. Yeah. 536 00:22:47,032 --> 00:22:47,966 There we go. 537 00:22:47,966 --> 00:22:50,969 Yeah, exactly. 538 00:22:51,136 --> 00:22:52,137 Tell us about this one. 539 00:22:52,137 --> 00:22:54,239 Well, hell yes, the hell is lager? 540 00:22:54,239 --> 00:22:57,242 This is on our on our test batch list right now. 541 00:22:57,843 --> 00:23:01,012 Just out of hell Is this is a wish I had harder to hear to. 542 00:23:01,380 --> 00:23:03,782 We kind of test some pointers. Yeah. Yeah. 543 00:23:03,782 --> 00:23:05,484 Whose idea was this? 544 00:23:05,484 --> 00:23:07,185 This. This is our our head brewery. 545 00:23:07,185 --> 00:23:08,954 Let's see what goes on. So this. Is. 546 00:23:08,954 --> 00:23:10,989 This is the first batch after the test batch? 547 00:23:10,989 --> 00:23:13,892 Yeah. So test pilots. And then. It. 548 00:23:13,892 --> 00:23:14,493 Came out good. 549 00:23:14,493 --> 00:23:17,028 So you guys went full scale with it? Yeah, yeah. 550 00:23:17,028 --> 00:23:18,130 Yeah. It's just kind of a basic. 551 00:23:18,130 --> 00:23:20,065 I was, you know, light and crisp and 552 00:23:21,266 --> 00:23:24,269 this is a standard 3470 lager yeast 553 00:23:24,736 --> 00:23:28,373 Now drinks easy, but you still get that that nice rich malt background on it. 554 00:23:28,573 --> 00:23:30,008 Yeah. 555 00:23:30,008 --> 00:23:32,511 Yeah, it's nice and clean hops on this one. 556 00:23:32,511 --> 00:23:33,912 Yeah. What's relatively new. 557 00:23:33,912 --> 00:23:36,848 What Abbey on this one is brewing five ish. Yeah. 558 00:23:36,848 --> 00:23:39,451 I think we're. Yeah, we're like low fives on it. Low for Karen. 559 00:23:39,451 --> 00:23:40,385 Anybody, anybody 560 00:23:40,385 --> 00:23:44,389 that's in the first beer, this would be warming up for October 1st. 561 00:23:44,423 --> 00:23:45,957 Yeah. This isn't one of those good ones. 562 00:23:45,957 --> 00:23:49,895 Like maybe if you were at Lager ville next year, like these guys. 563 00:23:50,128 --> 00:23:52,130 Hey, Lager, male people. Yeah. Hell, yeah. 564 00:23:52,130 --> 00:23:53,031 Let's go. 565 00:23:53,031 --> 00:23:53,698 Oh, What? 566 00:23:53,698 --> 00:23:54,800 He was. In? 567 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:55,600 Yeah, they made. 568 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,569 A lot of those little things. At. 569 00:23:57,569 --> 00:23:59,037 And how do you. 570 00:23:59,037 --> 00:24:02,040 What makes you decide to go from test match to to full scale? 571 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,375 What's is there a benchmark? 572 00:24:03,375 --> 00:24:04,743 Is it just like, hey, I really like this one. 573 00:24:04,743 --> 00:24:08,013 Good, good role. I choose the benchmark, 574 00:24:09,748 --> 00:24:10,849 but. Honestly, we haven't. 575 00:24:10,849 --> 00:24:12,918 We've been very fortunate in the test batches 576 00:24:12,918 --> 00:24:16,288 we've made so far that most of them have kind of hit the mark. 577 00:24:16,288 --> 00:24:18,290 So we're we're starting to scale them. 578 00:24:18,290 --> 00:24:21,860 Yeah, we have our our Clear Skies was a cold company. 579 00:24:21,860 --> 00:24:22,427 Cold IPA. 580 00:24:22,427 --> 00:24:25,430 Yeah. It's not one it's a 5050 drop. 581 00:24:25,597 --> 00:24:27,532 We don't have it today in person. We're all out. 582 00:24:27,532 --> 00:24:29,401 That was a test batch that's getting scaled up. 583 00:24:29,401 --> 00:24:30,168 Okay. 584 00:24:30,168 --> 00:24:35,907 5050 dry hopped with Cascade and Mosaic came out phenomenal. 585 00:24:36,174 --> 00:24:39,811 Fermented with lager yeast 3470 and that's 586 00:24:40,679 --> 00:24:45,083 I don't know we just anything we put on our we have a whole a whole like 587 00:24:45,750 --> 00:24:48,753 layout of like you know bar manager 588 00:24:48,954 --> 00:24:51,756 you know, has basically all the information on it, 589 00:24:51,756 --> 00:24:55,660 which is of a bar staff to promote it and everything and get people's input on it. 590 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,563 And so he gets that and sends it back like people love it. 591 00:24:58,563 --> 00:25:00,799 These things have been snapping off lists like crazy. 592 00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:04,302 So if we were popping the taps and we're just making more 593 00:25:04,302 --> 00:25:07,506 so we haven't had anything that has turned out like that was you 594 00:25:07,506 --> 00:25:10,509 say, Yeah, I'm sure we're going to get there straight to. 595 00:25:10,542 --> 00:25:11,510 The back to Untapped 596 00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:15,180 and then just rated on on tap live and feedback if you like it come in. 597 00:25:15,514 --> 00:25:18,517 And if you don't like it on tap, say something constructive. 598 00:25:18,517 --> 00:25:20,285 Awesome. Right on. Yeah. 599 00:25:20,285 --> 00:25:22,754 If you don't feel comfortable saying it on tap, tell that. 600 00:25:22,754 --> 00:25:23,889 Tell our bartenders. 601 00:25:23,889 --> 00:25:26,858 Let them know they're going to give the feedback to our manager or tell cheers. 602 00:25:26,858 --> 00:25:28,560 Sean Yeah. Let's, you know, so. 603 00:25:30,095 --> 00:25:30,762 Let me know. 604 00:25:30,762 --> 00:25:32,664 And I have that for you. Yeah. 605 00:25:32,664 --> 00:25:35,033 Exactly. And taps everything. 606 00:25:35,033 --> 00:25:36,067 What's, what's that process 607 00:25:36,067 --> 00:25:39,704 like where you're scaling up from, from test batch to the full scale? 608 00:25:39,771 --> 00:25:41,773 I know you don't just go. I'm making double the amount. 609 00:25:41,773 --> 00:25:42,874 I'm of double the hops, though. 610 00:25:42,874 --> 00:25:45,877 I mean, it's it's a little more complex than that, right? 611 00:25:46,411 --> 00:25:46,711 Yeah. 612 00:25:46,711 --> 00:25:49,781 We have a we have a whole, like, profile on our brewhouse. 613 00:25:49,781 --> 00:25:53,818 So, like, we're we've done it a few times and we understand 614 00:25:54,052 --> 00:25:55,687 roughly how we need to scale it up. 615 00:25:55,687 --> 00:26:00,692 So it's usually the big thing for us is, is understanding what the what the ABV 616 00:26:01,593 --> 00:26:05,497 what your, your gravity is before you put your yeast and everything. 617 00:26:05,897 --> 00:26:10,068 So that's usually the toughest thing to kind of, you know, equate out. 618 00:26:10,068 --> 00:26:13,104 But we're at the point now with we know our brewhouse, we can 619 00:26:13,104 --> 00:26:17,108 we can adjust things mid brew process to to hit our target gravity 620 00:26:18,009 --> 00:26:21,246 to get the right AB and then from that it's just by taste. 621 00:26:21,246 --> 00:26:22,581 If you have something that's a little bit too 622 00:26:22,581 --> 00:26:25,584 hoppy or too sweet, you can adjust on the next batch. 623 00:26:25,650 --> 00:26:30,288 It took us pray the worst one was matter of red matter or red we like. 624 00:26:30,288 --> 00:26:32,724 When we were on our three and a half year, our system. 625 00:26:32,724 --> 00:26:33,525 Which is one of my. 626 00:26:33,525 --> 00:26:35,560 Have you guys had Matador Red? Yes. 627 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,729 Oh, so good as that one. 628 00:26:37,729 --> 00:26:39,598 This is where I fell in love with. They were they. 629 00:26:39,598 --> 00:26:42,834 That was that was a tough one because you had all that rich caramel 630 00:26:43,168 --> 00:26:44,235 touch of chocolate. 631 00:26:44,235 --> 00:26:47,172 It's a very complex beer. Small wines. Yeah. 632 00:26:47,172 --> 00:26:50,008 And going from a smaller batch system 633 00:26:50,008 --> 00:26:53,278 like mid production on Matador, we changed our system from a three 634 00:26:53,278 --> 00:26:56,414 and a half rare, which produces about 100 gallons to a ten barrel system, 635 00:26:56,414 --> 00:27:00,018 which produces roughly well over three times average. 636 00:27:00,485 --> 00:27:01,686 So 310 gallons. 637 00:27:01,686 --> 00:27:05,223 We we the malt profile change became more efficient. 638 00:27:05,757 --> 00:27:06,391 So we were able to get 639 00:27:06,391 --> 00:27:10,862 a gravity in the right place, but the malt didn't come through as much. 640 00:27:10,862 --> 00:27:14,666 So we had to actually bump up our ammo, our model to match it. 641 00:27:14,666 --> 00:27:16,968 So we brew it and we taste it. 642 00:27:16,968 --> 00:27:21,640 We have we have a very strong sensory panel between all the brewers and 643 00:27:22,140 --> 00:27:24,743 and we have a we have a lab lab tech 644 00:27:24,743 --> 00:27:27,912 jury that comes in and helps us with the yeast and also on sensory stuff. 645 00:27:27,912 --> 00:27:29,814 So like, things stuff. Yeah. 646 00:27:29,814 --> 00:27:31,349 Oh yeah, it's super nerdy shit. 647 00:27:31,349 --> 00:27:32,851 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 648 00:27:32,851 --> 00:27:35,687 Last time we're here, Brian and I pulled this from the last show. 649 00:27:35,687 --> 00:27:38,757 You quote, did everything but make the beer 650 00:27:38,890 --> 00:27:41,893 marketing, pay the taxes, etc.. 651 00:27:42,227 --> 00:27:43,161 Is that still the same? 652 00:27:44,429 --> 00:27:45,697 Pretty much. 653 00:27:45,697 --> 00:27:49,034 But. But I think what's, what's happened since then, We, 654 00:27:49,034 --> 00:27:52,437 that was during like opening phases and right now it's 2018. 655 00:27:52,437 --> 00:27:55,540 Now you guys, you guys are coming up on seven years. 656 00:27:56,341 --> 00:27:58,009 Eight years, eight years. 657 00:27:58,009 --> 00:27:59,177 Your math is hard. 658 00:27:59,177 --> 00:28:02,180 We're we're we're a bigger distributing 659 00:28:02,414 --> 00:28:04,582 brewery now, so we distribute a little bit further. 660 00:28:04,582 --> 00:28:05,050 I don't know. 661 00:28:05,050 --> 00:28:08,086 I think we we Derek's jumped in that road a little bit. 662 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,122 We we we collaborate a little bit more on 663 00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:14,826 like marketing and and and business side. 664 00:28:14,826 --> 00:28:16,928 You know every the everything is a mutual. 665 00:28:16,928 --> 00:28:17,962 Yeah. 666 00:28:17,962 --> 00:28:21,900 We're constantly constantly conversating and scenarios and. 667 00:28:22,033 --> 00:28:24,536 Is that because you're doing a little less brewing 668 00:28:24,536 --> 00:28:27,439 you can kind of step into the business a little bit. More. 669 00:28:27,439 --> 00:28:28,773 Yeah. They go over the. 670 00:28:28,773 --> 00:28:30,542 Same the same thing about Brian as well. 671 00:28:30,542 --> 00:28:33,878 He's, he's also jumped in and helped out with like if you taste 672 00:28:33,878 --> 00:28:36,915 something that seems a little different on the on the production of beer, 673 00:28:37,482 --> 00:28:39,851 Brian spends a little bit more time in the taproom than I do. 674 00:28:41,152 --> 00:28:42,120 Quantum control. 675 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,056 Research. 676 00:28:45,056 --> 00:28:45,457 Right? 677 00:28:45,457 --> 00:28:46,858 Yeah, a little research. 678 00:28:46,858 --> 00:28:48,626 So nah I mean, he's he's got a great palate 679 00:28:48,626 --> 00:28:52,997 and he's been a huge amount of help on on solving some of these guys. 680 00:28:52,997 --> 00:28:56,501 But now a lot of us, we can divert to our produce staff and, 681 00:28:56,768 --> 00:29:00,505 you know, I'll give him kind of keys on things and they, they handle it. So 682 00:29:01,072 --> 00:29:04,743 yeah, a lot of it's opening up that time a little bit to dedicate to that. 683 00:29:05,910 --> 00:29:07,846 And we we've run out 684 00:29:07,846 --> 00:29:11,883 two accounts together to check things out and see what beers moving 685 00:29:11,883 --> 00:29:16,421 what beers not what things help to do to push beer a lot. 686 00:29:16,421 --> 00:29:18,590 It's just marketing details. 687 00:29:18,590 --> 00:29:21,092 And then all of a sudden I'm saying a lot of value. 688 00:29:21,092 --> 00:29:23,061 A lot of my a lot of stage. 689 00:29:23,061 --> 00:29:27,432 It sounds like not only has your distro footpath 690 00:29:27,465 --> 00:29:31,703 expanded over the last few years, you guys are expanding over here to. 691 00:29:32,070 --> 00:29:35,073 Yes. Do we can we talk about the super secret project next door? 692 00:29:35,340 --> 00:29:37,675 Absolutely. Everybody close your ears. 693 00:29:38,843 --> 00:29:41,045 Earmuffs your mouth, please. 694 00:29:41,045 --> 00:29:43,414 Who's. Who's the sushi chef around here? 695 00:29:43,414 --> 00:29:45,083 Derek does more sushi. 696 00:29:45,083 --> 00:29:47,352 And. And little more done. 697 00:29:47,352 --> 00:29:50,922 I have a I have a lot of a lot of sushi, a lot of. 698 00:29:52,290 --> 00:29:54,492 That. Of prep sushi. 699 00:29:54,492 --> 00:29:55,460 If anyone is. Interested. 700 00:29:55,460 --> 00:29:58,263 If anybody's hungry, there's a bunch of fish later. Yeah. 701 00:29:58,263 --> 00:30:00,832 So for those who don't know, next door, 702 00:30:00,832 --> 00:30:03,835 it was a sushi restaurant. 703 00:30:04,068 --> 00:30:06,337 It's been there for a bajillion years. Yeah, right. 704 00:30:06,337 --> 00:30:09,107 And you guys kind of partnered a little bit. 705 00:30:09,107 --> 00:30:10,441 They had your beers on tap. 706 00:30:10,441 --> 00:30:12,410 And I know, like during COVID, they kind of helped 707 00:30:12,410 --> 00:30:14,712 keep you guys open by, like, having food over here, right? 708 00:30:14,712 --> 00:30:15,547 Yeah, That's. 709 00:30:15,547 --> 00:30:18,483 One way we survived was we have the tent outside. 710 00:30:18,483 --> 00:30:18,850 Yeah. 711 00:30:18,850 --> 00:30:23,655 And you had our food, and that was a one of our main reasons we're here now. 712 00:30:23,788 --> 00:30:26,925 It's a recently you guys took over the space. 713 00:30:27,425 --> 00:30:31,596 Yeah, I guess a little bit of background that we had the previous owner, so 714 00:30:31,763 --> 00:30:32,730 it's changed hands. 715 00:30:33,998 --> 00:30:35,934 The original owner was owned it 716 00:30:35,934 --> 00:30:40,371 during the pandemic and they, they like they want to collaborate with us. 717 00:30:40,371 --> 00:30:41,272 We did the whole thing. 718 00:30:41,272 --> 00:30:42,540 We provided the tent. 719 00:30:42,540 --> 00:30:44,509 They put a license to, 720 00:30:44,509 --> 00:30:47,612 to have the outdoor space and we provided beer to it 721 00:30:47,612 --> 00:30:49,681 and took their orders and they supplied them. 722 00:30:49,681 --> 00:30:51,482 So that that worked out really well. 723 00:30:51,482 --> 00:30:54,485 They ended up selling the business to someone else that ran it from afar 724 00:30:55,653 --> 00:30:57,488 and it just kind of went downhill. 725 00:30:57,488 --> 00:31:00,692 And the the that owner approached us recently 726 00:31:00,692 --> 00:31:03,494 and wanted to kind of get out of. It. 727 00:31:03,494 --> 00:31:05,597 So that we took over. 728 00:31:05,597 --> 00:31:07,999 We took it over 729 00:31:07,999 --> 00:31:09,934 and we're in the process of doing a big deep 730 00:31:09,934 --> 00:31:12,937 cleaning on the on the place and prepping for a new concept. 731 00:31:12,937 --> 00:31:15,807 But we're also. Cleaning out all the grease traps and 732 00:31:16,808 --> 00:31:17,976 soy sauce. 733 00:31:17,976 --> 00:31:19,244 Well, that's one of the things you learn. 734 00:31:19,244 --> 00:31:22,280 Like to told that people want food now when they come over. 735 00:31:22,447 --> 00:31:22,847 Yeah. 736 00:31:22,847 --> 00:31:26,651 And you know, you've seen a lot of a lot of breweries out food 737 00:31:26,651 --> 00:31:30,355 and we have now a full kitchen that'll be at our disposal. 738 00:31:30,355 --> 00:31:34,259 So a lot of a lot of fun stuff coming attractions keep people tuned. 739 00:31:34,592 --> 00:31:38,997 In. And is going to be the taste tester over there or he's not paying attention. 740 00:31:38,997 --> 00:31:42,033 You No, I mean, if it goes through right away, he put it 741 00:31:42,033 --> 00:31:45,036 away. 742 00:31:45,503 --> 00:31:46,571 Oh, my. 743 00:31:46,571 --> 00:31:47,038 Oh, All right. 744 00:31:47,038 --> 00:31:51,042 Before we talk about more stuff, let's drink the next beer that's in front of us. 745 00:31:51,075 --> 00:31:53,144 Oh. Yes. 746 00:31:53,144 --> 00:31:55,280 He's excited. He's been pointing at me to. 747 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,281 To drink this beer. 748 00:31:56,281 --> 00:31:59,284 Let's go. There's snuggles. Snuggles? 749 00:31:59,350 --> 00:32:00,418 Looks like. Those. 750 00:32:00,418 --> 00:32:02,587 The one we're in. A lot of talk about. The different name came from 751 00:32:04,856 --> 00:32:05,456 our friend. 752 00:32:05,456 --> 00:32:07,091 We actually. 753 00:32:07,091 --> 00:32:08,793 It's been real quick. Please. 754 00:32:08,793 --> 00:32:12,797 First beer to blow at the Thousand Oaks Jolly cocoa. 755 00:32:12,964 --> 00:32:16,100 Okay so big props for snuggles at the chili cook off. 756 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,504 I had a guy at my tent posted 757 00:32:20,171 --> 00:32:23,308 by the tent, put a campfire out and all he did 758 00:32:23,308 --> 00:32:26,844 was give me his his glass, the porch snuggles. 759 00:32:27,111 --> 00:32:28,212 He said it was his bit. 760 00:32:28,212 --> 00:32:32,283 The best beer he's had at the festival his whole damn life. 761 00:32:32,283 --> 00:32:34,686 Wow, homey was like a big light years old. 762 00:32:34,686 --> 00:32:35,520 85, though. 763 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:36,354 He said old. 764 00:32:36,354 --> 00:32:39,824 And so listen, me and my add a couple 21 Yeah. 765 00:32:40,024 --> 00:32:42,060 Older gentleman, really cool guy. 766 00:32:42,060 --> 00:32:43,328 He definitely retired. 767 00:32:43,328 --> 00:32:47,665 Kept bringing people over to drop their tickets in my my vase 768 00:32:48,099 --> 00:32:51,936 or my cup for as best it sounds dirty nice. 769 00:32:52,737 --> 00:32:55,206 So we're actually in the process of getting get 770 00:32:55,206 --> 00:32:58,276 you are sure that to commemorate this call first apply. 771 00:33:00,712 --> 00:33:02,413 I'll. Get. 772 00:33:02,413 --> 00:33:03,281 Within the Pegasus. 773 00:33:03,281 --> 00:33:04,983 I guess I. 774 00:33:04,983 --> 00:33:07,885 Snuggle first to. 775 00:33:07,885 --> 00:33:10,888 See who else I believe was going to be your mission. 776 00:33:11,222 --> 00:33:11,956 Oh, dear. 777 00:33:11,956 --> 00:33:14,726 To bear who bears what we can. 778 00:33:14,726 --> 00:33:16,861 Oh, my. What? What goes? 779 00:33:16,861 --> 00:33:19,597 This is the one you were talking about with the protein issue. 780 00:33:19,597 --> 00:33:20,298 Yeah. 781 00:33:20,298 --> 00:33:21,699 And all that good stuff. 782 00:33:21,699 --> 00:33:23,935 Talk about it a little bit, the hops that goes into it. 783 00:33:23,935 --> 00:33:25,703 So on the malt side, it's. 784 00:33:25,703 --> 00:33:27,872 Yeah, a lot of wheat 785 00:33:27,872 --> 00:33:30,842 and rolled oats, you know, make this thing difficult. 786 00:33:31,709 --> 00:33:34,712 What's dry, what's on this. 787 00:33:35,046 --> 00:33:36,414 Citra citra. 788 00:33:36,414 --> 00:33:39,217 Mosaic and not simple. 789 00:33:39,217 --> 00:33:40,551 That's not going to zacha. 790 00:33:40,551 --> 00:33:42,820 That's a. Nice. Classic. 791 00:33:42,820 --> 00:33:46,224 So the beauty of these, these hops and what makes them really work and 792 00:33:46,290 --> 00:33:49,293 and create create this haze 793 00:33:49,861 --> 00:33:52,030 is the the polyphenol 794 00:33:52,030 --> 00:33:56,334 content of the hops so having that Citra and and brewer nerd 795 00:33:56,334 --> 00:34:01,239 terms polyphenols are the part of the hops that helps support the halos. 796 00:34:01,939 --> 00:34:05,543 You need two components to create haze and a beer actually has three components 797 00:34:05,543 --> 00:34:09,881 you need the the polyphenols from the hops, the protein from 798 00:34:10,148 --> 00:34:14,085 from the mash high protein malts like like oats and and wheat. 799 00:34:14,085 --> 00:34:14,552 Right. 800 00:34:14,552 --> 00:34:19,290 And then you need the yeast that creates that bio transformation, that turns 801 00:34:19,290 --> 00:34:22,894 the policy notes from the hops into that juice flavor and then also 802 00:34:23,528 --> 00:34:26,531 keeps the protein in suspension and keeps it hazy. 803 00:34:26,731 --> 00:34:32,203 So good, hazy after three or four months is still hazy, even if the hop profile 804 00:34:32,203 --> 00:34:35,940 has dropped off and it's become super rich and sweet, it's still hazy. 805 00:34:36,307 --> 00:34:37,909 And now that's been the challenge for this one. 806 00:34:37,909 --> 00:34:39,210 There's there's so many different challenges 807 00:34:39,210 --> 00:34:42,213 having it, having a good nose on it, having texture 808 00:34:42,747 --> 00:34:46,350 when you drink it, having a juice like, and then that preserved haze 809 00:34:46,384 --> 00:34:47,418 that doesn't drop out. 810 00:34:47,418 --> 00:34:48,386 Yeah, I will say that. 811 00:34:48,386 --> 00:34:50,488 I mean, this is very juicy. It's great. 812 00:34:50,488 --> 00:34:55,359 And I don't always love haze these that come from the West Coast. 813 00:34:55,726 --> 00:34:59,063 I don't know if it's our water profiles or what, but a lot of times they're just 814 00:34:59,363 --> 00:35:01,365 they just fall flat in the hazy category. 815 00:35:01,365 --> 00:35:03,901 This is this is a haze You through it through This is delicious. 816 00:35:03,901 --> 00:35:04,902 This is juicy. 817 00:35:04,902 --> 00:35:07,905 It's it's a little chewy, if you will. 818 00:35:08,272 --> 00:35:08,873 Yeah. 819 00:35:08,873 --> 00:35:12,310 There's there's a brewery down in Torrance that makes some great, great hazes, 820 00:35:13,177 --> 00:35:14,879 but that's pretty far from the valley. So. 821 00:35:14,879 --> 00:35:16,614 Yeah, if you're into hazes. 822 00:35:16,614 --> 00:35:18,082 Come check inside the haze. 823 00:35:18,082 --> 00:35:21,652 These seem to be few and far between Over here, Like this is a great one. 824 00:35:21,652 --> 00:35:24,655 If you want to go north, a little bit like Midwest is doing some great hazes 825 00:35:24,655 --> 00:35:25,456 in casa. 826 00:35:25,456 --> 00:35:29,393 Yeah, but overall, it's like no one's specialty for the most part around here, 827 00:35:29,393 --> 00:35:31,829 so it's nice to find a good one every now and then. 828 00:35:31,829 --> 00:35:33,664 And what you mentioned about the water profiles, 829 00:35:33,664 --> 00:35:36,667 that's that's a very, very important part of it as well. 830 00:35:37,435 --> 00:35:38,035 Having a 831 00:35:39,170 --> 00:35:39,570 high. 832 00:35:39,570 --> 00:35:40,872 Chloride Oh, chloride. 833 00:35:40,872 --> 00:35:44,142 Brine sulfate ratio is 2 to 1 for the sulfate and that that 834 00:35:44,308 --> 00:35:47,278 that that enhances that body and other things. 835 00:35:47,278 --> 00:35:48,146 So I mean we run 836 00:35:48,146 --> 00:35:51,949 reverse osmosis water on all of our beers so you get the focus on water. 837 00:35:51,949 --> 00:35:53,351 Yeah. We add back. 838 00:35:53,351 --> 00:35:55,887 So that's that's a big part of the haze is a lot of. 839 00:35:55,887 --> 00:35:56,354 Nice and. 840 00:35:56,354 --> 00:36:00,091 As you can see the the thought process on pizza dough is in. 841 00:36:00,091 --> 00:36:00,791 Berks. 842 00:36:00,791 --> 00:36:03,794 Yeah it's a little delayed with how many beers it's it's a. 843 00:36:04,195 --> 00:36:06,230 Pizza inside Pizza dough pizza. 844 00:36:06,230 --> 00:36:06,564 Yeah. 845 00:36:06,564 --> 00:36:08,032 Next door is going to be pizza, by the way, 846 00:36:08,032 --> 00:36:10,301 if we haven't already talked about that. 847 00:36:10,301 --> 00:36:11,335 All right. 848 00:36:11,335 --> 00:36:14,405 I have some questions and know we'll just start with Derek 849 00:36:14,639 --> 00:36:16,374 O'Brien's getting us some beers. 850 00:36:16,374 --> 00:36:17,575 A couple of things we didn't cover on 851 00:36:17,575 --> 00:36:20,611 the first episode is like your history as a drinker. 852 00:36:21,045 --> 00:36:26,017 What it all began like, are you pounding like wine coolers in high school? 853 00:36:26,651 --> 00:36:29,086 Was it Bartles and James No. 854 00:36:29,086 --> 00:36:31,722 No. We had yeah, Mickey's was a big one. 855 00:36:31,722 --> 00:36:32,924 Making and. 856 00:36:32,924 --> 00:36:36,494 I would do a drink a lot of forties here, Yankees, it's going 857 00:36:37,461 --> 00:36:38,829 to 11. 858 00:36:38,829 --> 00:36:41,165 He said, Forties. Guys, I oh. 859 00:36:41,165 --> 00:36:43,501 Man I tell you about when I finished off the six pack to. 860 00:36:43,501 --> 00:36:46,837 11 go tell everybody wanted to 11 is. 861 00:36:47,071 --> 00:36:50,074 Still. Reserved still reserved. 862 00:36:50,508 --> 00:36:51,609 Definitely. 863 00:36:51,609 --> 00:36:55,112 Older you feel older than you can message came out when I was. 864 00:36:55,112 --> 00:36:58,082 20 years. 865 00:36:58,282 --> 00:37:00,718 Old. Are you a 40. I'm 47. 866 00:37:00,718 --> 00:37:01,452 So yeah. 867 00:37:01,452 --> 00:37:04,155 We're discovering things about each other on the show. 868 00:37:04,155 --> 00:37:05,523 Sorry, I was the Mickey's guy. 869 00:37:05,523 --> 00:37:10,394 I was a red dog and a red wolf ice. 870 00:37:10,962 --> 00:37:11,896 But ice. 871 00:37:11,896 --> 00:37:13,664 What about the mad dog? Mad Dog? 872 00:37:13,664 --> 00:37:15,633 I got 20, 20, homie. 873 00:37:15,633 --> 00:37:17,702 Let's go back to old English. 874 00:37:17,702 --> 00:37:20,204 Any ever. 875 00:37:20,204 --> 00:37:22,540 So yeah, we started. Sharing them mall. 876 00:37:22,540 --> 00:37:23,741 There you go. All right. 877 00:37:23,741 --> 00:37:26,744 But I don't know so basketball 878 00:37:27,211 --> 00:37:29,880 played all my life and that was that was like what your. 879 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,049 Show sure is it doesn't make sense. 880 00:37:32,049 --> 00:37:34,051 Is that. So? Sure it doesn't make sense. 881 00:37:34,051 --> 00:37:35,253 Go, baby Z boy. 882 00:37:37,221 --> 00:37:37,722 All right. 883 00:37:37,722 --> 00:37:38,756 So you play basketball. 884 00:37:38,756 --> 00:37:42,326 And I mean, that was the every Thursday and I would play at my am. 885 00:37:42,326 --> 00:37:45,229 I am I pass this place out a decent size. 886 00:37:45,229 --> 00:37:47,098 I have clothes that would have have all of our 887 00:37:47,098 --> 00:37:50,401 buddies over to play and this is kind of the inception of 818. 888 00:37:50,935 --> 00:37:53,938 But we play ball every Thursday and that was 889 00:37:53,938 --> 00:37:57,008 the Coors Light, Bud Light, Miller Lite. 890 00:37:57,241 --> 00:37:59,310 Those are those are the beers of the night. 891 00:37:59,310 --> 00:38:02,880 We would drink beers in between and between rounds, and. 892 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,315 We get as good. 893 00:38:04,315 --> 00:38:06,417 We have tournaments very. Sensitive, like around the world. 894 00:38:06,417 --> 00:38:09,053 You're just like drinking while playing basketball. Tomorrow. 895 00:38:09,053 --> 00:38:10,688 When you're all, you. Know, we are. 896 00:38:10,688 --> 00:38:13,291 I mean. We have all three. I knew it was it was legit. 897 00:38:13,291 --> 00:38:16,160 We got to stay hydrated, baby. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 898 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,296 When you're out. Yeah, you got to count a couple beers. 899 00:38:18,296 --> 00:38:19,664 It's so good. 900 00:38:19,664 --> 00:38:23,367 So you started off drinking, You know, not the best stuff in the world. 901 00:38:23,401 --> 00:38:24,168 Corporate beer. 902 00:38:24,168 --> 00:38:25,303 Yeah. Yeah. Great. 903 00:38:25,303 --> 00:38:27,438 How did that shift to craft beer? 904 00:38:27,438 --> 00:38:29,473 So that was a okay. 905 00:38:29,473 --> 00:38:32,109 One of the big ones Brian Brian would bring down. 906 00:38:32,109 --> 00:38:34,345 He was Mezcal, Chico. So. 907 00:38:35,279 --> 00:38:35,880 So that 908 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,883 the Sierra Nevada Pale ale was a staple. 909 00:38:38,983 --> 00:38:40,584 Yeah. For the. 910 00:38:40,584 --> 00:38:43,754 Oh so I mean Brian Brian brought that I'd say 911 00:38:43,754 --> 00:38:49,060 Brian was kind of inspirational that he in multiple ways and and beer 912 00:38:49,126 --> 00:38:52,363 you know we're talking about how we got together. 913 00:38:52,463 --> 00:38:55,466 You got to always have that primal that just 914 00:38:55,633 --> 00:38:58,636 brings the worst right Or your best that. 915 00:38:58,769 --> 00:39:01,772 Ruined my life. But. 916 00:39:02,173 --> 00:39:05,710 But so I mean, getting into Sierra Nevada, Brian brought that around. 917 00:39:05,710 --> 00:39:07,178 But was. Environment. 918 00:39:07,178 --> 00:39:10,181 Building for Strawberry Hill beer 919 00:39:11,916 --> 00:39:13,417 the great. Tea party. 920 00:39:13,417 --> 00:39:14,585 Yeah that gets. 921 00:39:14,585 --> 00:39:15,986 A bit of a wine out in the beginning. 922 00:39:15,986 --> 00:39:16,587 Yeah. 923 00:39:16,587 --> 00:39:17,688 So how did that kind of come around 924 00:39:17,688 --> 00:39:20,024 to craft beer when you started getting to craft? 925 00:39:20,024 --> 00:39:23,260 Yeah, I went to Chico after going to Pierce College 926 00:39:23,260 --> 00:39:27,665 Valley College, and then I went up there for two years, didn't really get immersed 927 00:39:27,665 --> 00:39:31,402 in the craft beer, but just pale ale like Sierra Nevada had, like Sierra Nevada. 928 00:39:31,402 --> 00:39:33,871 We had on top of bars and 929 00:39:35,005 --> 00:39:35,673 came down here. 930 00:39:35,673 --> 00:39:37,842 And after after transitioning, 931 00:39:37,842 --> 00:39:41,011 we started going to a bar called Crazy Harry's walked in there. 932 00:39:41,345 --> 00:39:43,981 Yeah, mainly drink and so polite Modelo, all that. 933 00:39:43,981 --> 00:39:46,650 And the bartender was like, No, 934 00:39:46,650 --> 00:39:48,152 let me show you some things and 935 00:39:48,152 --> 00:39:51,589 and just walk us through craft beer and hit Belgians. 936 00:39:51,589 --> 00:39:54,959 Belgian was my first loss in the Van. Nuys. 937 00:39:55,126 --> 00:39:56,127 Class, right? 938 00:39:56,127 --> 00:39:59,063 And I was like, Wow, that's beer. 939 00:39:59,063 --> 00:40:00,831 And then he talked about homebrewing and then it just 940 00:40:00,831 --> 00:40:03,834 all from there, just like, Hey, did you hear about homebrewing? 941 00:40:03,868 --> 00:40:06,971 You know, just with their there again, not being able to 942 00:40:06,971 --> 00:40:10,141 like say like you can't do it or I want to take things apart. 943 00:40:10,141 --> 00:40:11,642 I want to make things. 944 00:40:11,642 --> 00:40:13,210 Let's start making beer. 945 00:40:13,210 --> 00:40:15,346 You make it at home. And here we are. 946 00:40:15,346 --> 00:40:17,882 So nice to I'll ask you the same question 947 00:40:17,882 --> 00:40:20,851 What was what was the OG getting for you? 948 00:40:20,851 --> 00:40:22,653 Honestly, it was. 949 00:40:22,653 --> 00:40:24,588 Yeah, I had the horse. 950 00:40:24,588 --> 00:40:25,956 These are like Heineken, but it wasn't. 951 00:40:25,956 --> 00:40:27,758 Heineken had horns. Yeah. 952 00:40:29,059 --> 00:40:29,727 God damn. 953 00:40:29,727 --> 00:40:31,162 They already drink crappy beer. 954 00:40:31,162 --> 00:40:33,030 Beer that had a whole bottle. 955 00:40:33,030 --> 00:40:34,932 White lettering had a horse on it. 956 00:40:34,932 --> 00:40:35,666 Yes. Rolling. 957 00:40:35,666 --> 00:40:37,301 Right. So. 958 00:40:37,301 --> 00:40:39,970 So. So. Okay. So when I was 18, I. 959 00:40:39,970 --> 00:40:41,305 Believe it to be T and. 960 00:40:41,305 --> 00:40:41,672 I worked. 961 00:40:41,672 --> 00:40:45,543 At a grocery store, and as I turned 21, 962 00:40:45,643 --> 00:40:48,579 we had a mystery box, which is the banana box 963 00:40:48,579 --> 00:40:52,750 with all the breakage bottles and they die and you put them in for 20 bucks. 964 00:40:52,750 --> 00:40:55,352 You got like what, 24 bottles of something? 965 00:40:55,352 --> 00:40:58,322 And I got one that had nothing but Rolling Rock in it. 966 00:40:58,322 --> 00:41:01,292 And after that, when I took that to my homies 967 00:41:01,392 --> 00:41:03,360 and they were drinking Bud Light and Modelos, 968 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,163 they didn't want to drink my stuff because it was different. 969 00:41:06,163 --> 00:41:08,432 Yeah. So, so different. 970 00:41:08,432 --> 00:41:11,735 I guess what to your beer a.k.a homie. 971 00:41:11,735 --> 00:41:16,407 Back in the days I drank all the Rolling Rock and no one touched it. 972 00:41:16,407 --> 00:41:18,242 So that's a little by little. 973 00:41:18,242 --> 00:41:22,480 So when you brought up the question to I was the basil 974 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,484 triangle, all those old school micro 975 00:41:28,052 --> 00:41:30,588 breweries is what I started getting into. 976 00:41:30,588 --> 00:41:34,525 And then, and then the one that caught me was Newcastle. 977 00:41:35,726 --> 00:41:37,027 I know it's not independent. 978 00:41:37,027 --> 00:41:40,030 I know it's that right. There you go. Cali. 979 00:41:40,064 --> 00:41:41,232 It comes up. Yeah. 980 00:41:41,232 --> 00:41:44,702 So Newcastle went for Newcastle and then they had a Holly, 981 00:41:45,469 --> 00:41:49,139 a Halloween beer werewolf man. 982 00:41:49,139 --> 00:41:51,108 I got hooked on that stuff. 983 00:41:51,108 --> 00:41:55,746 And then from there it just, it just went down, not uphill downhill 984 00:41:55,946 --> 00:42:01,619 because what Daniels is a lot easier independent Lagunitas Stone. 985 00:42:01,619 --> 00:42:02,353 Back in the day. 986 00:42:02,353 --> 00:42:07,324 Back in the arrogant bastard to me was like a fucking slap in the face. 987 00:42:08,092 --> 00:42:10,961 What the hell is is but amazing beers. 988 00:42:10,961 --> 00:42:14,999 And then started looking locally and started fighting local beers. 989 00:42:15,199 --> 00:42:17,001 And that's where I fell and know what they were doing. 990 00:42:17,001 --> 00:42:18,035 Nice. 991 00:42:18,035 --> 00:42:18,502 You're drinking? 992 00:42:18,502 --> 00:42:20,604 Eric Sebastian Ferrara Yeah. 993 00:42:20,604 --> 00:42:21,472 Yeah, yeah. 994 00:42:21,472 --> 00:42:23,908 I think everybody went through an arrogant bastard phase. 995 00:42:23,908 --> 00:42:26,377 But I still do that. So it's just so good to be. 996 00:42:26,377 --> 00:42:27,011 Yeah, yeah. 997 00:42:27,011 --> 00:42:27,511 I mean. 998 00:42:27,511 --> 00:42:33,083 Oh, shit, I'm fucking here and you're not fucking that arrogant bastard. 999 00:42:33,551 --> 00:42:35,319 I'll get the razors out. All right. 1000 00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:38,556 Let's take a couple of listener questions, 1001 00:42:38,556 --> 00:42:42,026 and then we will also try the next beer that's in front of us. 1002 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,262 I'm not going to go through these in no particular order. 1003 00:42:45,262 --> 00:42:48,265 Anthony wants to know why the name O.G. 1004 00:42:48,299 --> 00:42:49,800 to your beer. 1005 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,168 All right, so O.G. 1006 00:42:51,168 --> 00:42:54,572 beer that the original was to your beer and that was taken 1007 00:42:55,039 --> 00:42:56,340 so I had to go ogechi beer. 1008 00:42:56,340 --> 00:42:59,243 But O.G. to your beer. Basically the name. 1009 00:42:59,243 --> 00:43:00,177 I know who Anthony is. 1010 00:43:00,177 --> 00:43:00,878 I'm looking at you. 1011 00:43:00,878 --> 00:43:03,347 Do you beer to me when you drink beer? 1012 00:43:03,347 --> 00:43:05,516 Well, you're at my level. 1013 00:43:05,516 --> 00:43:08,352 You don't drink, you get drunk, you actually drink. 1014 00:43:08,352 --> 00:43:09,720 Already there. 1015 00:43:09,720 --> 00:43:13,090 And you process the flavors and the hard work 1016 00:43:13,090 --> 00:43:16,860 like Derrick went through to make that beer to get you drunk. 1017 00:43:17,094 --> 00:43:19,697 So to your beers, like, you don't know. 1018 00:43:19,697 --> 00:43:20,598 You don't drink it no more. 1019 00:43:20,598 --> 00:43:25,069 You drink with your homies, but you talk to your homies about what you're drinking. 1020 00:43:25,369 --> 00:43:27,871 Derek's over here like, that's cute, but I'm getting fucked up. 1021 00:43:27,871 --> 00:43:28,472 Let's go 1022 00:43:30,808 --> 00:43:32,242 by like I like that description. 1023 00:43:32,242 --> 00:43:33,844 You don't drink it to get drunk. 1024 00:43:33,844 --> 00:43:36,013 But you drink it to appreciate it, to get drunk. Zach. 1025 00:43:36,013 --> 00:43:38,148 Or you appreciate it your way too drunk. 1026 00:43:38,148 --> 00:43:40,684 The back end of the hat and then the logo. 1027 00:43:40,684 --> 00:43:41,251 Yeah. Yeah. 1028 00:43:41,251 --> 00:43:44,254 And it's a fucking price to get. 1029 00:43:44,888 --> 00:43:48,826 Steven wants to know what was the creative process he wants. 1030 00:43:49,526 --> 00:43:50,394 Dare. 1031 00:43:50,394 --> 00:43:51,662 I don't. Know. I think that's a. 1032 00:43:51,662 --> 00:43:52,896 What was it? 1033 00:43:52,896 --> 00:43:54,965 The questions that. 1034 00:43:54,965 --> 00:43:56,800 Anthony bore me. 1035 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,803 The process was passion 1036 00:44:01,071 --> 00:44:04,274 and not, you know, the passion or what you enjoy. 1037 00:44:04,608 --> 00:44:06,543 But here is here's what I'm telling you. 1038 00:44:06,543 --> 00:44:09,179 Is the community like you and your boys, that's it. 1039 00:44:09,179 --> 00:44:10,381 Your little community. 1040 00:44:10,381 --> 00:44:14,018 So my community is these guys, but then it extends to you 1041 00:44:14,551 --> 00:44:19,690 and everybody else around that appreciates will you like and accepts it. 1042 00:44:20,157 --> 00:44:23,527 And then they decide to make it happen. And 1043 00:44:24,795 --> 00:44:27,798 then because of. 1044 00:44:28,766 --> 00:44:29,533 I'd imagine 1045 00:44:29,533 --> 00:44:32,636 this questions for you because it comes from your son Foo. 1046 00:44:33,170 --> 00:44:34,571 Utterly. 1047 00:44:34,571 --> 00:44:36,740 Says, What does this beer mean to you? 1048 00:44:36,740 --> 00:44:38,942 This beer means to me a legacy. 1049 00:44:38,942 --> 00:44:41,612 As a father, as a son. 1050 00:44:41,612 --> 00:44:43,380 I'm not the Holy Spirit yet. 1051 00:44:43,380 --> 00:44:44,214 Give it time. 1052 00:44:44,214 --> 00:44:46,984 But this to me, means like something I created with you 1053 00:44:46,984 --> 00:44:48,719 because you were here when we did it. 1054 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:53,023 So the day that I'm not around and I wanted to say to keep making it happen 1055 00:44:53,323 --> 00:44:56,627 and something you could bring your sons with and enjoy this. 1056 00:44:57,327 --> 00:45:00,164 It's a legacy something I leave behind 1057 00:45:00,164 --> 00:45:02,733 not only but in flavors, but in memory with you. 1058 00:45:02,733 --> 00:45:05,736 So what I hear is you're not 1059 00:45:07,271 --> 00:45:08,205 best dreamers. 1060 00:45:08,205 --> 00:45:11,208 When choose gone, you're not getting any money, you're just getting some beer. 1061 00:45:11,442 --> 00:45:14,211 So memories bad. Work for the money 1062 00:45:15,813 --> 00:45:18,816 to to to to think that. 1063 00:45:19,349 --> 00:45:20,884 All right. Well, we need more questions. 1064 00:45:20,884 --> 00:45:22,986 Let's talk about this. 1065 00:45:22,986 --> 00:45:25,989 I love the piece that's in front of us. 1066 00:45:27,124 --> 00:45:30,360 When that happens, it's like that's the Valhalla of vanilla. 1067 00:45:31,595 --> 00:45:34,598 This is last year's Valhalla release, 1068 00:45:34,765 --> 00:45:37,367 aged in Heaven Hill Barrels. 1069 00:45:37,367 --> 00:45:40,971 It's basically like an intensified version of our blackout mode. 1070 00:45:41,505 --> 00:45:44,108 Let it rest on below beans before 1071 00:45:44,108 --> 00:45:47,111 we raised it in in whiskey barrels. 1072 00:45:47,144 --> 00:45:47,411 I think. 1073 00:45:47,411 --> 00:45:49,046 You guys brought this to facilitate. 1074 00:45:49,046 --> 00:45:51,215 Loosely. 1075 00:45:51,215 --> 00:45:54,785 If you aren't there, you will lose your console. 1076 00:45:54,785 --> 00:45:55,385 Loser. 1077 00:45:55,385 --> 00:45:56,186 Yeah. 1078 00:45:56,186 --> 00:45:57,354 Finally, I like to. 1079 00:45:57,354 --> 00:46:00,357 Use my microphone. 1080 00:46:00,591 --> 00:46:01,458 Yeah. 1081 00:46:01,458 --> 00:46:02,926 Yeah. You're going to get. 1082 00:46:02,926 --> 00:46:06,063 Yeah, definitely a lot of chocolate some espresso. 1083 00:46:07,798 --> 00:46:09,166 Yeah. Delicious. 1084 00:46:09,166 --> 00:46:10,000 Yeah. 1085 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,034 Everybody vanilla? 1086 00:46:11,034 --> 00:46:11,869 Yeah, a lot of vanilla. 1087 00:46:11,869 --> 00:46:13,904 A little bit of coffee on there once. 1088 00:46:13,904 --> 00:46:16,540 Was this like 13%, I think. I think it's around there. 1089 00:46:16,540 --> 00:46:18,942 Yeah. It is not like it's 30. 1090 00:46:18,942 --> 00:46:20,978 One out after 13. So yeah, it is. 1091 00:46:20,978 --> 00:46:23,113 It's dangerous. Pressing for. Iranians. 1092 00:46:24,181 --> 00:46:27,050 She's going to have four of these before he drives home. 1093 00:46:27,050 --> 00:46:30,053 Ported by tag brothers long ago. 1094 00:46:30,721 --> 00:46:33,457 This is one of the ones you still put bottles right. 1095 00:46:33,457 --> 00:46:36,460 We do yeah, we have a plant here at the brewery so 1096 00:46:36,994 --> 00:46:39,997 stop by and grab some Vanilla Valhalla. 1097 00:46:40,297 --> 00:46:43,133 We also have to cow and. 1098 00:46:43,133 --> 00:46:45,469 Then we're going to pokeno a baby. Look, I. 1099 00:46:45,469 --> 00:46:46,370 I don't think it's a secret. 1100 00:46:46,370 --> 00:46:48,605 I love great cans 1101 00:46:48,605 --> 00:46:50,774 per beer, but this is just. 1102 00:46:50,774 --> 00:46:52,609 It's sexy when it's in a bottle. 1103 00:46:52,609 --> 00:46:55,145 You know, we try. We tried doing cans. Oh, try. 1104 00:46:55,145 --> 00:46:56,647 That was a two years ago. 1105 00:46:56,647 --> 00:46:57,714 We tried doing. 1106 00:46:57,714 --> 00:46:58,949 Last year or two or three. 1107 00:46:58,949 --> 00:47:01,318 Yeah, we tried doing, 1108 00:47:01,318 --> 00:47:07,991 we tried to in pints of our Vanilla Black Moon, which is which is basically 1109 00:47:07,991 --> 00:47:12,763 what this virus and but but untreated just just straight up barrel aged beer. 1110 00:47:12,763 --> 00:47:14,731 No no other adjuncts to it 1111 00:47:14,731 --> 00:47:18,335 And we also used our bottom quarter beer aged in Hemphill barrels this year 1112 00:47:18,635 --> 00:47:21,772 and we can it we put a bad ass label on it. 1113 00:47:22,439 --> 00:47:23,607 No one wants to buy it. 1114 00:47:23,607 --> 00:47:25,342 It's it's it's. 1115 00:47:25,342 --> 00:47:25,976 A great beer. 1116 00:47:25,976 --> 00:47:27,911 It's freaking it's scary. 1117 00:47:27,911 --> 00:47:29,646 It's yeah it's scary and it's in the. 1118 00:47:29,646 --> 00:47:32,883 Can I agree. With it? So what do you want? 1119 00:47:33,250 --> 00:47:37,287 So yeah we you want a big ass barrel spirit just it's sexy in a bottle. 1120 00:47:37,321 --> 00:47:37,688 It does. 1121 00:47:37,688 --> 00:47:38,956 It needs to be waxed up too. 1122 00:47:38,956 --> 00:47:41,792 Yeah, you do. You go all the way. 1123 00:47:41,792 --> 00:47:46,163 Yeah, well, wax dip in a nice, just simple warmer. 1124 00:47:46,330 --> 00:47:48,699 Yeah. We cover big fucking cans. 1125 00:47:48,699 --> 00:47:49,333 Yeah. No, no. 1126 00:47:49,333 --> 00:47:51,401 None of that bullshit that Firestone introduced 1127 00:47:51,401 --> 00:47:53,503 with, like, here's your little sample of a bottle. 1128 00:47:53,503 --> 00:47:55,105 No, we want a bomber of this stuff. 1129 00:47:55,105 --> 00:47:58,108 What is that big? The not the bomber. 1130 00:47:58,308 --> 00:48:01,778 What is the bigger bomber the stone used to do? 1131 00:48:01,778 --> 00:48:03,046 And there. 1132 00:48:03,046 --> 00:48:05,282 I find. Mango sheer. Magnum. 1133 00:48:05,282 --> 00:48:08,285 And this is a bag of beer. This is a 750. 1134 00:48:08,385 --> 00:48:11,321 This is a Christmas holiday fucking magnum 1135 00:48:11,321 --> 00:48:14,324 beer that you put a bow and you put it under. 1136 00:48:14,324 --> 00:48:17,127 Choose a fucking Christmas tree. Wow. Choose. Get over. That. 1137 00:48:18,061 --> 00:48:21,064 And the next. 1138 00:48:21,765 --> 00:48:23,467 Is a secret. 1139 00:48:23,467 --> 00:48:25,469 Then hopefully I make this happen with Darren. 1140 00:48:25,469 --> 00:48:28,472 But I want to put capital tied up with this beer. 1141 00:48:28,939 --> 00:48:30,173 All the country. 1142 00:48:30,173 --> 00:48:32,409 It's Mexican dessert. What? 1143 00:48:32,409 --> 00:48:34,344 I keep. 1144 00:48:34,344 --> 00:48:36,780 Thinking of Mexican rapper. 1145 00:48:36,780 --> 00:48:39,783 Just. Started with two. Snuggles 1146 00:48:39,850 --> 00:48:42,119 and some shit like that. I had some shots. 1147 00:48:42,119 --> 00:48:43,720 I had a couple of beers before I got here. 1148 00:48:43,720 --> 00:48:46,390 He had. Some of his kids in the shower. 1149 00:48:46,390 --> 00:48:47,457 Just to calm me down. 1150 00:48:47,457 --> 00:48:49,326 Yeah, I own this one. 1151 00:48:49,326 --> 00:48:51,495 And Brian, this comes from Elvia. 1152 00:48:51,495 --> 00:48:54,965 She says, How do you make your beer or how do you make sure the beer 1153 00:48:54,965 --> 00:48:57,968 and the brewery stays connected to the local area? 1154 00:48:59,136 --> 00:49:02,139 First off, just just naming wise, 1155 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,175 we were definitely community based. 1156 00:49:05,175 --> 00:49:08,645 And when we make a beer, we try and think of something, 1157 00:49:09,246 --> 00:49:12,182 something that that relates to in the ballet or in the design process 1158 00:49:12,182 --> 00:49:15,352 of that beer like we're going to make this and this is going to be the name 1159 00:49:15,986 --> 00:49:17,354 I say that Me The main task 1160 00:49:17,354 --> 00:49:20,691 like main process would be just trying to find something that associates or, 1161 00:49:21,158 --> 00:49:25,862 you know, the red season Valley Girl just that's just a 1162 00:49:26,830 --> 00:49:28,365 generational. 1163 00:49:28,365 --> 00:49:29,566 Keyword, you know. Right. 1164 00:49:29,566 --> 00:49:32,569 And so Gravity Hill 1165 00:49:33,337 --> 00:49:36,340 is a, you know, the urban legend up in Sylmar. 1166 00:49:37,441 --> 00:49:38,942 So, you know, that's what we do. 1167 00:49:38,942 --> 00:49:42,546 And so everybody has their ideas on other valley, 1168 00:49:44,614 --> 00:49:45,615 like just 1169 00:49:45,615 --> 00:49:48,618 urban legends or trinkets about the valley. 1170 00:49:48,785 --> 00:49:50,053 Can we of matter can. 1171 00:49:50,053 --> 00:49:53,056 We collab on a beer cause this traffic sucks. 1172 00:49:53,357 --> 00:49:53,790 There we go. 1173 00:49:53,790 --> 00:49:54,624 Okay, 1174 00:49:54,624 --> 00:49:58,695 this one comes from nameless, but they say we'll just Chu We'll start with you. 1175 00:49:58,695 --> 00:50:00,330 Chu We'll work our way down. 1176 00:50:00,330 --> 00:50:01,798 What's your favorite style of beer? 1177 00:50:01,798 --> 00:50:04,601 Barista Dollar Beer honestly, is a pale 1178 00:50:04,601 --> 00:50:07,671 ale IPA lager. 1179 00:50:08,105 --> 00:50:10,173 There we go. Dark lager. 1180 00:50:10,173 --> 00:50:11,141 Is this our one? Beer? 1181 00:50:11,141 --> 00:50:11,942 Pick it up. 1182 00:50:11,942 --> 00:50:14,811 Stout, and I'll give you my whole fucking list. 1183 00:50:14,811 --> 00:50:16,880 I'll give you my Christmas list. Tell me. 1184 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,816 Are you just going down the BGP like scoresheet at this point? 1185 00:50:22,352 --> 00:50:22,986 I'm here. 1186 00:50:22,986 --> 00:50:24,021 Yeah. All right. 1187 00:50:24,021 --> 00:50:27,090 We'll move on to Brian, who might just give us one or two answers instead of ten. 1188 00:50:27,991 --> 00:50:30,427 Yeah, I'm going to say 1189 00:50:30,427 --> 00:50:31,328 I'll say IPA. 1190 00:50:31,328 --> 00:50:34,331 Okay, Well, clear or hazy 1191 00:50:34,798 --> 00:50:35,465 and out. 1192 00:50:35,465 --> 00:50:37,034 Now we get. Tricky. Oh. 1193 00:50:37,034 --> 00:50:39,302 And here's where we curse the East Coast. 1194 00:50:39,302 --> 00:50:40,837 Yeah, and West coast. 1195 00:50:40,837 --> 00:50:44,608 Yo, I, I think I have have transitioned over to the hazy. 1196 00:50:44,608 --> 00:50:47,611 Oh, he's on, baby. No biggie. All right. 1197 00:50:47,744 --> 00:50:49,246 But if you can choose a coast. 1198 00:50:49,246 --> 00:50:50,881 West coast is coast. 1199 00:50:50,881 --> 00:50:52,883 So I drink a lot more water now. 1200 00:50:52,883 --> 00:50:54,317 Yeah. 1201 00:50:54,317 --> 00:50:57,320 Just, just to make life easier. 1202 00:50:58,655 --> 00:51:02,392 But I'd say West Coast is my favorite. 1203 00:51:02,793 --> 00:51:04,561 Yeah. Nice. Yes. Right. 1204 00:51:04,561 --> 00:51:06,296 This question is for Chu. 1205 00:51:06,296 --> 00:51:08,198 This comes from Scotty B. 1206 00:51:08,198 --> 00:51:10,033 Yeah, that's my boy, man. 1207 00:51:10,033 --> 00:51:11,101 It's a three parter. 1208 00:51:11,101 --> 00:51:13,837 He wants to know, Are you ever coming to Fresno again? 1209 00:51:13,837 --> 00:51:17,874 When and which brewery in Fresno do you want to visit the most? 1210 00:51:17,874 --> 00:51:19,776 Scotty B That's my boy. 1211 00:51:19,776 --> 00:51:24,047 It's kind of be the one I hooked me up with making joke with Dazzle in Fresno. 1212 00:51:24,347 --> 00:51:30,020 So, Scotty B, Uh, I will be back in Fresno depending on the time of day. 1213 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,422 You know, Tioga, Sequoia, homie. 1214 00:51:32,422 --> 00:51:35,425 All day, every day, the Sequoia, 1215 00:51:35,425 --> 00:51:38,261 maybe for even rush hour. 1216 00:51:38,261 --> 00:51:40,497 We do a beer called Rush Hour. Well, okay. 1217 00:51:40,497 --> 00:51:43,500 Think they get with three different coffee roasters, 1218 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,169 They make a style and they use those three. 1219 00:51:46,169 --> 00:51:48,238 You go up Uvo on the best coffee. 1220 00:51:48,238 --> 00:51:50,941 You like the best stout you like with coffee. 1221 00:51:50,941 --> 00:51:53,343 And then that's the coffee they'll use for the rest of the year. 1222 00:51:53,343 --> 00:51:55,879 Now that Derek walked away, maybe that's the next collaboration. 1223 00:51:55,879 --> 00:51:57,481 Because my heart stays here. And they were 1224 00:51:59,149 --> 00:52:00,984 all like, I'm tired. 1225 00:52:00,984 --> 00:52:02,285 And they want that trifecta. 1226 00:52:02,285 --> 00:52:05,922 collabO Oh, a true. L True. 1227 00:52:05,956 --> 00:52:08,191 Like what about like a choko fantastica. 1228 00:52:08,191 --> 00:52:12,662 De Yo I got yeah, I got the rights back to that. 1229 00:52:13,063 --> 00:52:15,465 So that's going to be back to when they brewery. Man. 1230 00:52:15,465 --> 00:52:17,033 Oh shit. 1231 00:52:17,033 --> 00:52:18,135 This one's also for Chew. 1232 00:52:18,135 --> 00:52:22,205 This comes from Miguel He says the question is for choo choo. 1233 00:52:22,205 --> 00:52:23,173 What is. 1234 00:52:23,173 --> 00:52:26,009 What is your end goal for your new product. 1235 00:52:26,009 --> 00:52:29,880 My and gold is to have this year 1236 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,983 24 seven and make it a one day staple. 1237 00:52:32,983 --> 00:52:36,987 So Acapulco will go away and Torito will go away, 1238 00:52:36,987 --> 00:52:39,990 but they will always stay 1239 00:52:40,090 --> 00:52:42,492 in. All right. 1240 00:52:42,492 --> 00:52:45,662 This one comes from sin also for choo choo. 1241 00:52:45,662 --> 00:52:49,866 I know you also love to cook and barbecue and drop your 1242 00:52:50,634 --> 00:52:54,471 what are some of your favorite food recipes using your favorite beer. 1243 00:52:54,871 --> 00:52:55,705 Carne asada, 1244 00:52:57,240 --> 00:53:00,210 beer, canned chicken, fish tacos. 1245 00:53:00,210 --> 00:53:03,446 I use valley girl blond for my fish tacos. 1246 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,650 I use valley girl ball for my carne 1247 00:53:06,650 --> 00:53:09,819 asada, for my seasoning, for my marinades. 1248 00:53:09,819 --> 00:53:12,856 I use valley girl blond for my fucking valley girl homie. 1249 00:53:13,156 --> 00:53:14,090 Right. 1250 00:53:14,090 --> 00:53:14,891 You want more? 1251 00:53:14,891 --> 00:53:17,894 You know, I used to receive a ride for my 1252 00:53:18,662 --> 00:53:21,665 for my IPA bread that I made is too bitter 1253 00:53:21,798 --> 00:53:24,801 so I'm had to go valley girl again. 1254 00:53:25,402 --> 00:53:28,872 Fare a Ron messages 1255 00:53:28,872 --> 00:53:32,943 and he says hey are Aaron from Integrin I need a hot 1256 00:53:32,943 --> 00:53:36,513 take cold IPA or India pale lager. 1257 00:53:36,980 --> 00:53:41,851 Oh hell no Cold IPA is just basically a a lager IPA. 1258 00:53:41,851 --> 00:53:43,320 Homie IPA. 1259 00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:48,291 IPL and A-Rod's a sales rep for the return of County Integra. 1260 00:53:48,425 --> 00:53:50,627 That's I don't know you guys. You guys created. 1261 00:53:52,195 --> 00:53:55,031 All. This maverick stats now. 1262 00:53:55,031 --> 00:53:58,134 Which won the IPL or the Gold IPA. 1263 00:53:58,235 --> 00:54:01,238 That whole situation and. 1264 00:54:02,339 --> 00:54:03,873 I vote for IPL. 1265 00:54:03,873 --> 00:54:06,009 This comes from rocks too. 1266 00:54:06,009 --> 00:54:08,144 What age did you have your first beer? 1267 00:54:08,144 --> 00:54:09,946 My first beer at what age? 1268 00:54:09,946 --> 00:54:12,949 God damn man, that's probably wearing fucking diapers, 1269 00:54:14,584 --> 00:54:15,652 sneaking in. 1270 00:54:15,652 --> 00:54:20,724 You know, your pops is hanging out at a barbecue with a compadres and you 1271 00:54:20,991 --> 00:54:24,928 dig, get water, but it's fucking Budweiser or you or it's back to him. 1272 00:54:25,095 --> 00:54:29,499 I don't think Modelo was the back around back then and in the valley. 1273 00:54:29,499 --> 00:54:32,502 So Budweiser, Michelob 1274 00:54:33,837 --> 00:54:36,906 and then even MGD, because MGD came in the nineties. 1275 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:38,141 In the high. Life. 1276 00:54:38,141 --> 00:54:40,310 Maybe a high life, a champagne, a beer. 1277 00:54:40,310 --> 00:54:42,145 You know. 1278 00:54:42,145 --> 00:54:43,013 Those in. 1279 00:54:43,013 --> 00:54:46,850 Belgium though, the meals cause banquet because my pops I started to drink liquid 1280 00:54:46,850 --> 00:54:50,287 bank it for a while my pops is like he remembers drinking that okay 1281 00:54:50,754 --> 00:54:53,590 around the when we were kids so yeah. 1282 00:54:53,590 --> 00:54:57,560 Would you ever consider opening your own brewery Methanol. 1283 00:54:58,728 --> 00:55:00,330 It's too much fucking work. 1284 00:55:00,330 --> 00:55:02,299 Don't do it. 1285 00:55:02,299 --> 00:55:04,934 If you open a brewery, you know you're going to make money. 1286 00:55:04,934 --> 00:55:07,070 But it's all about it. 1287 00:55:07,070 --> 00:55:09,139 And Derek knows what I'm talking about. Yeah. 1288 00:55:09,139 --> 00:55:11,775 If anything, I probably would open a restaurant before I open a. 1289 00:55:11,775 --> 00:55:14,010 Brewery and just sell Derek's beers. 1290 00:55:14,010 --> 00:55:16,746 Exactly. Yeah, just straight away. 1291 00:55:16,746 --> 00:55:17,514 There we go. 1292 00:55:17,514 --> 00:55:17,847 I think 1293 00:55:17,847 --> 00:55:20,850 we can run down the line on this one, especially if Brian makes his way back. 1294 00:55:21,584 --> 00:55:24,587 This comes from Jonathan, and he says, Hey, guys. 1295 00:55:24,721 --> 00:55:25,021 Oh, the. 1296 00:55:25,021 --> 00:55:26,022 Why do you put Jonathan? 1297 00:55:26,022 --> 00:55:28,758 Hey, guys, it's Mike from the Taproom podcast. 1298 00:55:28,758 --> 00:55:32,028 I got to ask, what's the worst hangover you guys ever had? 1299 00:55:32,162 --> 00:55:34,030 And what were you drinking? 1300 00:55:34,030 --> 00:55:35,932 Tequila. 1301 00:55:35,932 --> 00:55:37,400 Halloween. 1302 00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,970 I was dressed as Walter Gallo. 1303 00:55:41,404 --> 00:55:42,605 But now. 1304 00:55:42,605 --> 00:55:46,009 It's a fucking horoscope reader from fucking Can I put it like, Wow. 1305 00:55:46,009 --> 00:55:46,876 Okay. 1306 00:55:46,876 --> 00:55:50,347 And by the end of the fucking night, I was fucking hungry. 1307 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:51,581 Yeah, well. 1308 00:55:51,581 --> 00:55:54,084 We can all tell you has been drinking at this point. 1309 00:55:54,084 --> 00:55:54,851 I'm seven. 1310 00:55:56,853 --> 00:55:57,320 Derek. 1311 00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,422 We're saying over your head we're. All really good. 1312 00:55:59,422 --> 00:56:02,425 So what I mentioned before. The 1313 00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,262 the two elevens 1314 00:56:06,262 --> 00:56:08,231 take that. 1315 00:56:08,231 --> 00:56:09,632 As a lesson. Six maybe was. 1316 00:56:09,632 --> 00:56:12,602 Expecting a. Six pack or a 12 pack. 1317 00:56:13,203 --> 00:56:13,670 He's a drink. 1318 00:56:13,670 --> 00:56:16,172 A lot of people, boys, very. 1319 00:56:16,172 --> 00:56:17,140 I have. 1320 00:56:17,140 --> 00:56:19,843 Known and I know. 1321 00:56:19,843 --> 00:56:23,246 The worst was I had one night there was a 30 pack there 1322 00:56:24,414 --> 00:56:25,849 and that was from 2 p.m. 1323 00:56:25,849 --> 00:56:28,852 to 2 a.m. and it was mixed. 1324 00:56:29,452 --> 00:56:33,690 But it was all all big beer, lighter beers, whatever. 1325 00:56:33,790 --> 00:56:35,125 But boys were. 1326 00:56:35,125 --> 00:56:36,459 Poor as like, whatever. 1327 00:56:36,459 --> 00:56:39,462 But yeah, and I blacked out. 1328 00:56:39,562 --> 00:56:42,332 But then the next day I heard about it. 1329 00:56:42,332 --> 00:56:46,202 I apparently had become the Incredible Hulk at about 2 a.m.. 1330 00:56:46,302 --> 00:56:47,771 No throw back. 1331 00:56:47,771 --> 00:56:49,272 So I break it down for us. 1332 00:56:49,272 --> 00:56:51,708 Yeah. Bravest of tackling. 1333 00:56:51,708 --> 00:56:54,911 Me and laughing afterwards being upset about that. 1334 00:56:55,245 --> 00:56:55,812 Exactly. 1335 00:56:55,812 --> 00:56:56,646 That's their problem. 1336 00:56:56,646 --> 00:56:58,148 That yeah, that. 1337 00:56:58,148 --> 00:57:00,984 Was that was my worst night. The next day was like. 1338 00:57:00,984 --> 00:57:02,986 All right. Brian, the is what's the worst 1339 00:57:02,986 --> 00:57:05,989 hangover you've ever had and what were you drinking? 1340 00:57:06,022 --> 00:57:09,492 And worst hangover would be started with Redbull Vodka 1341 00:57:10,427 --> 00:57:12,562 ended with Stella's Red 1342 00:57:13,897 --> 00:57:16,533 Water, a Padres martini bar in Italy. 1343 00:57:16,533 --> 00:57:18,201 Well, yeah. 1344 00:57:18,201 --> 00:57:22,472 I think at least in the most recent years, the worst hangover I ever had was 1345 00:57:22,772 --> 00:57:26,309 I went out drinking with Wiley from the Booze League. 1346 00:57:28,111 --> 00:57:29,412 And. That motherfucker. 1347 00:57:29,412 --> 00:57:30,647 Yeah. What? 1348 00:57:30,647 --> 00:57:31,981 Where's Wiley? 1349 00:57:31,981 --> 00:57:34,984 Oh, yeah, he. 1350 00:57:35,952 --> 00:57:37,754 We're not cheering for him. 1351 00:57:37,754 --> 00:57:39,522 No. Where that to call all the wiley. 1352 00:57:39,522 --> 00:57:40,824 Oh, okay. Good. 1353 00:57:40,824 --> 00:57:43,827 Is that like Room Odyssey except Commando? 1354 00:57:44,294 --> 00:57:48,331 That guy made sure we went out drinking all night, made sure we had no food. 1355 00:57:48,631 --> 00:57:51,401 And he goes, Hey, you want to split some nachos. 1356 00:57:51,401 --> 00:57:53,837 Splattered one nacho? 1357 00:57:53,837 --> 00:57:56,673 He fucking inhaled them. 1358 00:57:56,673 --> 00:57:58,374 And we're doing whiskey shots. 1359 00:57:58,374 --> 00:57:59,843 We're drinking beer then. 1360 00:57:59,843 --> 00:58:03,513 And I was so shattered that I attempted to call my wife. 1361 00:58:04,013 --> 00:58:04,781 Yeah, my wife. 1362 00:58:04,781 --> 00:58:06,483 I don't know why she married me. 1363 00:58:06,483 --> 00:58:09,352 And on the other end, she hears. Her. 1364 00:58:11,221 --> 00:58:13,323 To the point where he had to pick up the phone and go, 1365 00:58:13,323 --> 00:58:16,292 I'm getting him an Uber and sending him to you. 1366 00:58:16,860 --> 00:58:19,863 The next day I threw up nine times. 1367 00:58:19,863 --> 00:58:20,797 That was so. Terrible. 1368 00:58:20,797 --> 00:58:22,198 That is, I've done. That with. 1369 00:58:22,198 --> 00:58:24,467 So many of my friends. 1370 00:58:24,467 --> 00:58:27,270 I feel very regretful that. 1371 00:58:27,270 --> 00:58:28,838 I go through what. 1372 00:58:28,838 --> 00:58:31,407 You don't throw. Up now when I drink, when I'm sick. Yes. 1373 00:58:31,407 --> 00:58:34,544 But when I throw up, I don't. I'm very good. 1374 00:58:34,878 --> 00:58:36,546 It's not me. You. 1375 00:58:36,546 --> 00:58:37,714 My body is very. 1376 00:58:37,714 --> 00:58:40,517 Well, but my. Body, my. 1377 00:58:40,517 --> 00:58:42,986 Internalizing 1378 00:58:42,986 --> 00:58:44,354 as the wife has the kid. 1379 00:58:44,354 --> 00:58:46,856 You don't know what I'm drunk. That's impressive. 1380 00:58:46,856 --> 00:58:48,224 I'll clean up fucking house. 1381 00:58:48,224 --> 00:58:49,492 I'm a little jealous. 1382 00:58:49,492 --> 00:58:51,528 But there's nothing better than like a boot and rally. 1383 00:58:51,528 --> 00:58:53,496 You feel fantastic when. You see me. 1384 00:58:53,496 --> 00:58:55,832 I am cleaning the house out there. 1385 00:58:55,832 --> 00:58:58,334 Everybody let you know. That if. 1386 00:58:58,334 --> 00:59:00,103 You get used to the want to sleep. 1387 00:59:00,103 --> 00:59:00,803 Yeah. You guys can. 1388 00:59:00,803 --> 00:59:01,938 Do, like, good rally. 1389 00:59:01,938 --> 00:59:04,674 Like, to me, it's just instant hangover. 1390 00:59:04,674 --> 00:59:05,942 Oh, really? 1391 00:59:05,942 --> 00:59:08,945 Okay, so talking to my hangovers, what's your hangover? 1392 00:59:09,445 --> 00:59:10,246 Hangover cure. 1393 00:59:10,246 --> 00:59:13,616 Cure the silver. Medal. Yeah, it's okay. 1394 00:59:13,616 --> 00:59:16,619 So my wife has been to the I am chilaquiles. 1395 00:59:16,953 --> 00:59:17,420 This is great. 1396 00:59:17,420 --> 00:59:20,423 I'm Tim Parsley with a diet. Dr. Pepper. 1397 00:59:21,057 --> 00:59:22,659 I need that diet. Dr. Pepper In my life. 1398 00:59:22,659 --> 00:59:24,527 It's like you don't need solid for breakfast. 1399 00:59:24,527 --> 00:59:25,995 All you. Do. 1400 00:59:25,995 --> 00:59:28,698 That's all I do. I only eat it for breakfast. 1401 00:59:28,698 --> 00:59:30,066 That's not true. Bring me. 1402 00:59:30,066 --> 00:59:30,700 It's a gringo. 1403 00:59:30,700 --> 00:59:31,834 You know, like Germany. 1404 00:59:31,834 --> 00:59:33,870 When a. Basically an astronaut is. 1405 00:59:35,638 --> 00:59:38,875 Chilaquiles in a fucking black coffee. 1406 00:59:39,242 --> 00:59:41,444 Oh, coffee. Okay. 1407 00:59:41,444 --> 00:59:44,147 And then our final our final listener question 1408 00:59:44,147 --> 00:59:47,617 is, what is your process for developing a new recipe? 1409 00:59:47,917 --> 00:59:51,888 We we have like an internal thread with our with our brewery, with our, 1410 00:59:51,888 --> 00:59:53,623 our tasting room. 1411 00:59:53,623 --> 00:59:56,626 We usually try to get input from from the beer staff, 1412 00:59:56,626 --> 00:59:59,629 from what they hear, from customers, what what they what they want. 1413 01:00:00,029 --> 01:00:01,698 So there's a little bit of that. 1414 01:00:01,698 --> 01:00:05,868 We also have our brewers that that happens they want to see. 1415 01:00:05,902 --> 01:00:11,274 Yeah so it's kind of a combination of of of just a customer customary. 1416 01:00:11,874 --> 01:00:14,611 You know requirement of. 1417 01:00:14,611 --> 01:00:17,547 What they want and then so the internal stuff 1418 01:00:17,547 --> 01:00:20,350 I don't know I mean we, we just we kind of go by that we. 1419 01:00:21,317 --> 01:00:24,320 Also our distro team kicks in some ideas 1420 01:00:24,821 --> 01:00:27,757 and that's the whole point of our test pilots 1421 01:00:27,757 --> 01:00:31,327 which which Fantastico is on is shouldn't you try new things. 1422 01:00:31,561 --> 01:00:33,529 Yeah and, 1423 01:00:33,529 --> 01:00:36,099 but as far as actual like details and recipe 1424 01:00:36,099 --> 01:00:39,369 and how that becomes generic in order to to 1425 01:00:39,836 --> 01:00:42,839 I think fantastic was a perfect explanation of 1426 01:00:43,406 --> 01:00:46,843 of that the description you heard from Q earlier 1427 01:00:46,843 --> 01:00:50,113 and then Derek interpreted that and put it into liquid form. 1428 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:51,381 That's what Derek does. 1429 01:00:51,381 --> 01:00:53,650 I mean it's, it's, it's pretty wild. 1430 01:00:53,650 --> 01:00:56,586 And this is the first the first book batch. 1431 01:00:56,586 --> 01:00:59,389 So that was the idea 1432 01:00:59,389 --> 01:01:02,525 the and, and got with Arno and they, they, 1433 01:01:03,126 --> 01:01:07,163 they created something from a verbal explanation and nailed it. 1434 01:01:07,463 --> 01:01:09,866 Yeah. I guess that just wow that's just. 1435 01:01:09,866 --> 01:01:12,602 The hard part is like I wanted to go a different direction. 1436 01:01:12,602 --> 01:01:15,872 I wanted to go more to make it like Amber 1437 01:01:16,506 --> 01:01:19,842 and really get that Kamal art, our brewers said, Hey, let's, 1438 01:01:20,176 --> 01:01:23,179 let's, let's research this with press let's just 1439 01:01:23,312 --> 01:01:27,650 to get like more of them as a kimberlé you know kind of thing going. 1440 01:01:28,518 --> 01:01:30,720 And. I would do that back 1441 01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:34,657 to you is like no no, you guys, you guys don't use all these adjuncts. 1442 01:01:34,657 --> 01:01:37,293 You guys go straight ahead straight up. 1443 01:01:37,293 --> 01:01:40,963 You know, you use you just your your core ingredients with your mash. 1444 01:01:41,864 --> 01:01:42,398 You know. 1445 01:01:42,398 --> 01:01:45,334 And fermentation and try to make happen 1446 01:01:45,334 --> 01:01:48,371 and use that vanilla so we can't back from hey you. 1447 01:01:49,272 --> 01:01:51,074 Hey. Let's let's let's try it. 1448 01:01:51,074 --> 01:01:55,111 We were both both very nervous about using the coffee beans in the house right 1449 01:01:55,244 --> 01:01:58,247 are trust me and it added that extra complexity. 1450 01:01:58,347 --> 01:01:59,282 And then when it came. 1451 01:01:59,282 --> 01:02:00,983 Out, it came out exactly how. 1452 01:02:01,984 --> 01:02:02,385 It. Was. 1453 01:02:02,385 --> 01:02:04,387 The weird thing came out exactly what he was explaining. 1454 01:02:04,387 --> 01:02:05,388 That's collaboration. 1455 01:02:05,388 --> 01:02:07,323 That's that that's awesome. 1456 01:02:07,323 --> 01:02:09,092 Because, you. Know, you don't get that. 1457 01:02:09,092 --> 01:02:11,861 Everyone's going to have their own ideas of how they want to try to do something 1458 01:02:11,861 --> 01:02:13,830 from their experience or from what they've heard. 1459 01:02:13,830 --> 01:02:17,967 And the more the more energy you have, the more and more information 1460 01:02:17,967 --> 01:02:20,970 you have or the people like, the better things are going to be. 1461 01:02:21,571 --> 01:02:24,607 We're we're happy with how it worked out and we appreciate it. 1462 01:02:24,807 --> 01:02:26,109 I'm glad you listened. 1463 01:02:26,109 --> 01:02:29,011 To all of this. 1464 01:02:29,011 --> 01:02:32,014 No, I not stubborn, but I'm very 1465 01:02:32,281 --> 01:02:34,984 I don't know how like and I know what other people like. 1466 01:02:34,984 --> 01:02:38,621 So something sweet to me was very iffy. 1467 01:02:38,988 --> 01:02:41,124 And by adding the. 1468 01:02:41,124 --> 01:02:42,091 Those are like I can. 1469 01:02:42,091 --> 01:02:47,029 Smell a letter wooden throwing it over and then then it wouldn't have become fun. 1470 01:02:47,029 --> 01:02:48,297 I would have become something different. 1471 01:02:48,297 --> 01:02:50,600 But I think we still need to try to do that. 1472 01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,469 But when you barrel agent, then we could do that. But 1473 01:02:54,737 --> 01:02:56,372 so I give you I give you. 1474 01:02:56,372 --> 01:03:01,444 To. Release that to you If you barrel put in your barrel I want some. 1475 01:03:01,444 --> 01:03:04,447 Jefferson Yeah. So this is how it happens. 1476 01:03:04,647 --> 01:03:07,650 They say 1477 01:03:09,018 --> 01:03:09,385 get some. 1478 01:03:09,385 --> 01:03:11,454 Guy come to the tavern like, Hey, make this now. 1479 01:03:11,454 --> 01:03:13,689 Put it in some barrels. No, no, no. It doesn't happen. 1480 01:03:13,689 --> 01:03:18,895 Like, it takes a lot of time and a lot of trust, right? 1481 01:03:19,262 --> 01:03:20,296 The correct word. 1482 01:03:20,296 --> 01:03:22,465 It's more like this. It's like, Hey, here's some puzzle. 1483 01:03:22,465 --> 01:03:24,734 It's amazing. Now you got to let me feel your belly. 1484 01:03:24,734 --> 01:03:26,035 Yeah. What is it? 1485 01:03:26,035 --> 01:03:28,037 A weight. A man's heart is through his stomach. 1486 01:03:28,037 --> 01:03:28,671 There you. Go. 1487 01:03:28,671 --> 01:03:29,939 I got two big at stomach. 1488 01:03:29,939 --> 01:03:31,107 The feel. 1489 01:03:31,107 --> 01:03:33,743 You. Got to 1490 01:03:33,743 --> 01:03:34,143 All right. 1491 01:03:34,143 --> 01:03:36,846 That, I believe, is everything. You guys, thank you so much. 1492 01:03:36,846 --> 01:03:41,217 One thing I will say to, I think I will dedicate it to my wife. 1493 01:03:41,484 --> 01:03:43,886 You know, to 80 1494 01:03:45,888 --> 01:03:47,523 that and this is true. 1495 01:03:47,523 --> 01:03:50,293 And since we're getting sentimental. Yeah, let's do it. 1496 01:03:50,293 --> 01:03:52,595 I just want to tell you. 1497 01:03:52,595 --> 01:03:55,598 And we love you, man. 1498 01:03:56,365 --> 01:03:57,200 We love you. 1499 01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:01,537 You, you to even talking about a collaboration for probably before 1500 01:04:01,537 --> 01:04:04,073 we opened. 1501 01:04:04,073 --> 01:04:07,076 I think once we once we signed up an Instagram and said, Hey, when I bring. 1502 01:04:07,076 --> 01:04:09,212 Your first six years like. 1503 01:04:09,212 --> 01:04:13,549 You were there, you came on our podcast that no longer exist. 1504 01:04:14,116 --> 01:04:16,018 And you know, there's a lot I. Missed the. 1505 01:04:16,018 --> 01:04:18,788 Podcast and I had the first. 1506 01:04:18,788 --> 01:04:20,756 Believer very clear from you guys. 1507 01:04:20,756 --> 01:04:21,858 Yeah, Yeah. 1508 01:04:21,858 --> 01:04:27,597 And, and, and you've been pushing this cooperation for years and years. 1509 01:04:27,630 --> 01:04:28,898 You finally. Broke them down. 1510 01:04:28,898 --> 01:04:30,700 You know, But you're dealing with the brewery that, 1511 01:04:30,700 --> 01:04:33,269 that the owners are heavily involved and I think it's now 1512 01:04:34,437 --> 01:04:35,304 before this Dirk's 1513 01:04:35,304 --> 01:04:39,609 grinding on shirt next door and and we were heavily 1514 01:04:39,609 --> 01:04:43,145 involved in this business and perform a lot of the activities that happen 1515 01:04:44,847 --> 01:04:47,550 and I told you to stay persistent stay on there 1516 01:04:47,550 --> 01:04:52,455 you'll feel like we have this new test batch coming to stay on and you did. 1517 01:04:52,655 --> 01:04:56,025 And we want to do this and we love it. 1518 01:04:56,292 --> 01:04:59,161 I'm glad we were able to finally do it. 1519 01:04:59,161 --> 01:05:01,998 And but we love you and. 1520 01:05:01,998 --> 01:05:05,001 Love you back when we get back to my kids. 1521 01:05:07,303 --> 01:05:09,071 And the family and all that. 1522 01:05:09,071 --> 01:05:11,641 That was all the collusion. 1523 01:05:11,641 --> 01:05:14,610 20, 23 years. 1524 01:05:15,745 --> 01:05:18,748 If you wait, then who you are using? 1525 01:05:20,583 --> 01:05:21,751 Can we expect a keg? 1526 01:05:21,751 --> 01:05:24,387 This episode a palooza this year, please. 1527 01:05:24,387 --> 01:05:26,122 And thank you. 1528 01:05:26,122 --> 01:05:27,990 Also pizza. 1529 01:05:27,990 --> 01:05:29,859 Oh, but certainly pizza won't. 1530 01:05:29,859 --> 01:05:31,160 Yes go. 1531 01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:32,628 Pizza puts all. Episodes. 1532 01:05:32,628 --> 01:05:35,631 I suppose I'm going to stop trying. 1533 01:05:35,731 --> 01:05:36,098 All right. 1534 01:05:36,098 --> 01:05:38,334 I believe that's everything. 1535 01:05:38,334 --> 01:05:40,202 You guys, thank you so much for having us. 1536 01:05:40,202 --> 01:05:41,003 Thank you for having us. 1537 01:05:41,003 --> 01:05:44,340 Yeah, dude, thanks for getting us involved. And 1538 01:05:45,541 --> 01:05:46,142 for those of you 1539 01:05:46,142 --> 01:05:51,314 listening at home, if you've not been to 818 brewing, it's 8953 DeSoto 1540 01:05:51,314 --> 01:05:55,051 Avenue, Canoga Park, and it's also at 818 brewing 1541 01:05:55,051 --> 01:05:58,054 on the socials. 1542 01:05:58,921 --> 01:06:01,924 A shout out to flex 1543 01:06:01,924 --> 01:06:04,927 Flex me a beer yo. 1544 01:06:06,595 --> 01:06:06,963 Good. 1545 01:06:06,963 --> 01:06:08,130 Okay, great. 1546 01:06:08,130 --> 01:06:09,198 Follow followed. 1547 01:06:09,198 --> 01:06:11,600 You add OG to your beer. 1548 01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:12,935 We're on the Graham. 1549 01:06:12,935 --> 01:06:15,938 We are at craft beer Republican craft beer poker. 1550 01:06:16,005 --> 01:06:18,541 You guys, thank you so much for the beer. Thank you. Yeah. 1551 01:06:18,541 --> 01:06:21,877 And thanks for the space and for hanging out and. 1552 01:06:22,812 --> 01:06:24,213 And yeah, I'll make it up. 1553 01:06:24,213 --> 01:06:27,183 Thank you, guys. 1554 01:06:30,519 --> 01:06:32,822 Peer to peer to peer 1555 01:06:32,822 --> 01:06:35,791 to peer to peer to peer to peer to to. 1556 01:06:35,791 --> 01:06:37,026 I hope. Everyone out here is. 1557 01:06:37,026 --> 01:06:40,429 Saying and it feels like it very well hydrated. 1558 01:06:41,030 --> 01:06:43,199 And on that note, goodnight, everybody. 1559 01:06:43,199 --> 01:06:43,632 Tonight. 1560 01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:51,974 Okay.