Welcome to Close it now, the podcast that's revolutionizing the H Vac and home improvement trades industries.
Speaker AGet ready to dive deep into the world of heating, ventilation, and air conditioning.
Speaker AWe're turning up the heat on industry standards and cooling down misconceptions.
Speaker AAnd we're not just talking about fixing vents and adjusting thermostats.
Speaker AIt's about the transformative movement that's reshaping the very foundation of H Vac and home improvement.
Speaker AWe're the driving force, inspiring top performers who crave excellence not only in their professional endeavors, but also in fitness, nutrition, relationships, and personal growth, proving that we can indeed have it all.
Speaker AThis is Close it now, where excellence meets excitement.
Speaker ALet's get to work now.
Speaker AYour host, Sam Wakefield.
Speaker BWell, all right.
Speaker BWelcome back to Close It Now.
Speaker BSam Wakefield here.
Speaker BAnd if this episode has been brewing for a long time, and you'll understand what I mean by that here in just a second.
Speaker BI have a guest today that is this will be the inaugural episode like this, and you'll also understand that.
Speaker BBut my guest today, he is no stranger to the H Vac industry or the trades.
Speaker BA lot of you may have met him in the past and you may know this name, but when he.
Speaker BI'll let you give him, or I'll let him give you most of his highlight reel, but, boy, I'm excited.
Speaker BHe's trained with a lot of.
Speaker BA lot of companies across the last decade.
Speaker BWhen he was in the field, he set some pretty amazing records, which he'll cover in a second.
Speaker BAnd this is also my pleasure to introduce our new trainer with Close It Now.
Speaker BThis is Stephen Dale.
Speaker BThanks for being on the episode, man, oh, man.
Speaker CAbsolutely.
Speaker CSam, I love what you're doing out there in the industry, and I think all the conversations you and I have had over the last year with Close it now and just, you know, really, it's about connecting with that homeowner on an emotional level.
Speaker CI mean, customers buy emotionally.
Speaker CThey justify it logically.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CBut what I really liked with Close it now is it wasn't tricks and tips on how to manipulate your customer.
Speaker CIt wasn't about selling them things they didn't want or need, but it was spending time with that client and discovering what's the real pain.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CYou mentioned.
Speaker CSo back when I was a contractor, I was technician for a while.
Speaker CMaintenance demand service kind of went into that comfort advisor role.
Speaker CAlthough I like to call it project manager.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CNot some fancy sales name.
Speaker CComfort Advisor.
Speaker CSo I say project.
Speaker CHey, do I sound like I'm the guy that you want to work on this project?
Speaker CDoes this solution look like, you know, because I'm the project guy, and the great thing as a project manager is I may do H Vac today, but down the road, we do heated.
Speaker CI mean, we do plumbing.
Speaker CSo possibly that project is another plumbing or electrical.
Speaker CThere's all sorts of things as a project manager, but one of the things I really fell in love with is the value of clean air.
Speaker CYou know, I find it interesting how all of us get out there and we buy our bottled water, and we understand clean water is very important.
Speaker CThank you to the plumbing industry.
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker BYou guys have done Everybody watching on YouTube.
Speaker BIf you.
Speaker BIf you can't see on YouTube.
Speaker BGot my green Stanley right here also.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BWe're.
Speaker BWe're super big about health here.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CAnd yet, when you look at, like, you know, a human being takes, on average, about 22,000 breaths a day.
Speaker CIf you look at the EPA and you start seeing the air inside, your home is up to five times more polluted.
Speaker CPeople spend more than 90% of the dime inside.
Speaker CSo I just started to realize that clean air was as important as comfort and energy savings, because air is life.
Speaker CAnd so when back in those days when I was working with another manufacturer, they would have these quarterback clubs, and every quarter, you would compete against your division or your market, and then it would kind of spread out, and then you would get, you know, against everyone in your state.
Speaker CAnd so I. I wasn't out there selling, Sam.
Speaker CI was simply serving.
Speaker CI was very passionate about clean air.
Speaker CAnd I think passion is contagious.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CAnd so, of course, you put the carrot out there, and I saw the prize, which was like, three or four nights in Cabo with my wife.
Speaker CI'm like, let's go.
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker CSo you always want to reward the behavior that you want.
Speaker CAnd in my case is, if you give me this trip, I'm going to figure out every house I go into, chances are they don't have any kind of UV protection or filtration system, humidity control, whatever the case is.
Speaker CSo, to me, that was really important to have those conversations.
Speaker CSo I just knew in my mind I was going to go and talk about these every single time.
Speaker CAnd the law, statistics and averages is eventually someone's gonna say, yes, the laws.
Speaker BStatistics and averages says that was a really nice trip then, right?
Speaker CYeah, it was a great trip.
Speaker CMatter of fact, it was great to go three times in that one year, because I hit it every quarter.
Speaker CWell, three quarters out of four, some guy in Phoenix ended up getting me on the last one, but I'll give it to him.
Speaker CI give it to him.
Speaker CSo, you know, I kind of share that because I never claim and you do the same thing.
Speaker CSam.
Speaker CWe don't have all the answers, but we are a really good resource.
Speaker CAnd so I moved out of the.
Speaker CAs a contractor more into the training side and.
Speaker CAnd started to really fall in love because I really feel that everyone deserves a coach.
Speaker CYou know, a coach is someone that is your advocate.
Speaker CThey want to build into you, they want you to succeed, so they see things from a different perspective.
Speaker CAnd again, you don't have all the answers.
Speaker CA great coach is just really good at asking great questions, right.
Speaker CTo pull it out of you.
Speaker CAnd so I fell in love with it.
Speaker CIt became very fulfilling for me, Sam.
Speaker CAnd so for the last eight years, I've been training different manufacturers, different distributors, different organizations and companies.
Speaker CSo grateful for the time and all the contractors and technicians I've been able to meet, which has been great.
Speaker BI love it, Love it.
Speaker BAnd that's.
Speaker BThat's such a fun journey.
Speaker BIt's.
Speaker BI love that it all started from a heart of service and a heart of just truly helping people better the best way that we possibly can.
Speaker CAnd think about it, Sam.
Speaker CI mean, seriously, if you come into my house trying to sell me something, my sales resistance will go off the charts, like I will know immediately.
Speaker CSo if you enter in as a professional with the goal as leaving as a friend, that's.
Speaker CThat's noble.
Speaker CBut if you come in as a salesperson, not gonna work with this guy, man.
Speaker CSo, yeah, I think it has so much the same from.
Speaker CFrom that heart of service, you know, and anyway, didn't mean to cut you off.
Speaker CContinue.
Speaker BThis is great.
Speaker BI love it.
Speaker BSo everybody listening to one of the intentions of this episode and you are going to hear from, start hearing from Stephen a whole lot more.
Speaker BAnd as we add more and more trainers to close it now, we will have a regular rotation because I want every single person to hear from everybody who's hopping in with the team to be the best.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BWe are here to make a massive impact in the industry.
Speaker BAnd there's.
Speaker BThe only way to do it is with more people and people that are worth buying from, like we say on the show all the time.
Speaker BAnd so, and I love this, and we were talking a little bit before the episode and you said something a minute ago that it, at first it kind of flew right by me, and then it's like it circled all the way around my head and smacked me back in the Face.
Speaker BAnd I'm thinking of it again.
Speaker BAnd you said we can never talk about mindset too much because.
Speaker BOr, or too thoroughly because someone is all.
Speaker BEven if somebody is awesome right now, if the ride is rain next week, they might get kicked in the teeth.
Speaker BAnd man, how do we get back out of that?
Speaker BOr for a lot of people listening right now, I know that it is October.
Speaker BWe're recording right now.
Speaker BOctober 28, 2024.
Speaker BThis has been by most people's definition, at minimum, a wild, crazy year.
Speaker BAnd a lot of people, of course, if you're in fall into the boat that, well, this has been the year from hell as far as the lack of volume and what is going on with the weather and all those kind of things.
Speaker BYeah, it's been an odd year.
Speaker BBut what we focus on is what.
Speaker BWhat we can control, not what we can't control.
Speaker BAnd what we can control the most is our mindset about how we see the things.
Speaker BBecause.
Speaker BWhat's Jim Rohn's favorite quote?
Speaker BIf how we look.
Speaker BIf how we look at things changes, the things we look at changes.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BIf we.
Speaker BHow we see.
Speaker BIf we change how we see things, that.
Speaker BHow we see things will change.
Speaker CAnd oh man, it.
Speaker CIt's so true.
Speaker CThink about if.
Speaker CIf Sam, if you were researching for the last two weeks a particular car.
Speaker CThe make, the model, the color.
Speaker CThat's all you've been researching for the last two weeks.
Speaker CGuess what you've been seeing on the road for the last two weeks?
Speaker BEveryone.
Speaker CThat car.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CWeldon Long had a book about the power of consistency.
Speaker CGreat book.
Speaker CBut he.
Speaker CWhere I learned this from was from Weldon Long, where he kept saying, your thoughts drive your behavior.
Speaker CIt goes back to the old Henry Ford.
Speaker CIf you think you can or you think you can.
Speaker CEither way, you're right.
Speaker BYou're right.
Speaker CSo I think you.
Speaker CIt's a timely topic, which is, yeah, it is a little bit slower or it's been a little odd.
Speaker CWe've got a lot of changes coming at the beginning of the year.
Speaker CA2L, different sensors, price increases.
Speaker CAnd then of course, we're coming into Thanksgiving and Christmas.
Speaker CSo more than.
Speaker CThan ever, getting that mind right of understanding our thoughts will drive our behavior.
Speaker CIt's the same thing as a technician.
Speaker CYou drive up to a house and you think to yourself, oh man, these people will never buy anything.
Speaker CBut you're right.
Speaker CYou already manifested that.
Speaker CAnd chances are they're not going to.
Speaker CSo you can either see it as a great opportunity to serve another human being.
Speaker CThat's in A crisis mode, which I know sounds nuts, but that's how they feel, right?
Speaker CIt's crisis.
Speaker CThere's fear, there's anxiety, there's stress.
Speaker CSo this is an opportunity to serve another human being.
Speaker CYou know, I talked about some of the clean air products I used to love to talk about, but my perspective was always, Sam, if.
Speaker CIf I knew of a product or service that can help another human being, why would I not say anything?
Speaker CBecause I'm afraid to come across a selling.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CBut you have a club membership that not only keeps their system at peak performance, gives them those discounts.
Speaker CPriority service.
Speaker CIt's the fast pass Disney lane.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CSo why would you not mention that?
Speaker CWhy would you not talk about a start kit or humidifiers, surge protection?
Speaker CIf you understand the value behind those and you start to see what's in it for the customer, you're really not selling anything.
Speaker CSo that's what I loved about Close it now.
Speaker CIt wasn't how to manipulate customers.
Speaker CIt was just truly serving them.
Speaker CSo again, close it now.
Speaker CIt's a coach in your pocket, man.
Speaker B100.
Speaker B100.
Speaker BI realized that we're off to the races and there was a few things I wanted to talk about before we got to it.
Speaker BSo everybody pause for station identification here.
Speaker BSo that.
Speaker BBut yeah, so I.
Speaker BThe cool thing about having Stephen on here is when we reconnected, in fact, we reconnected oddly in through somebody I never expected.
Speaker BThank you, Mr. Christini.
Speaker BOver in North Carolina.
Speaker BWe behave.
Speaker BIt's his mutual friend who's also a incredible rock star salesman.
Speaker COh, dude.
Speaker BOf the best operators in the industry.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CHe's so passionate.
Speaker CHe's so authentic.
Speaker CHe takes ownership as a service manager.
Speaker CAnd the best thing about Chris is he sits down with everyone individually and says, what does success look like to you and how can I help you achieve that?
Speaker CSo he doesn't have churn.
Speaker CHe doesn't have, you know, people leaving for an extra dollar down the road.
Speaker CChris gets it.
Speaker CIf I invest in my people, my greatest asset, give them a plan for success.
Speaker CSo it's not just a job.
Speaker CChris is making a career for this, for his team.
Speaker CYou rarely see someone like Chris, So shout out to my man there at Air experts and he's got another place as well.
Speaker CBut you know, when you invest in your people, the law of reciprocation says, man, they in turn will take care of your customers.
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker CThey just will.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd that's it.
Speaker BThat's.
Speaker BI mean, and so everybody listen up.
Speaker BYou made notes.
Speaker BThat's a massive leadership Principle for, for leading your team.
Speaker BIf it's your sales team, who, whatever team is, it's literally know your people.
Speaker BIt's just a matter of the same way we serve our homeowners.
Speaker BSit and listen, ask more questions.
Speaker CDude, Sam.
Speaker CSo I was doing ride alongs a couple weeks ago and had this great tech.
Speaker CSo we get into this house, they say, hey, can we get you a cup of coffee?
Speaker CAnd of course we say, oh, my goodness, that'd be awesome.
Speaker CRight?
Speaker CBecause you always say yes.
Speaker CYou don't say no.
Speaker CYou don't want to be the first person to say no.
Speaker CThat's a rejection.
Speaker CRight?
Speaker CWe get in this house, we're sitting down.
Speaker CI kid you not, Sam.
Speaker C48 minutes go by before we ever even talked about the system.
Speaker CSo we're doing this debriefing afterwards.
Speaker CAnd he looked at his watch when we knocked, and he looked at our watch when we finally started talking about some of their pain points.
Speaker CHe said, do you realize we talked for 48 minutes?
Speaker CAnd I said, yeah.
Speaker CWhat did we learn?
Speaker CWe learned the dog's names.
Speaker CWe learned all about their life.
Speaker CWe learned their situation, how long they plan on being in the home.
Speaker CWe learned some of the physical pains they were going through.
Speaker CWe were getting to know them as a human being.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CI said, so if you're not spending time with that homeowner because you're either rushed or you just want to go straight to the thermostat, man, stay curious longer, pull back, discover what's really going on.
Speaker CBecause the moment now, after our 48 minute conversation, now everything that we talked about, we were able to create action items based off of what they told us, based off of what we had.
Speaker CWe didn't get the solution mode, but, but we started to create these action lists that you talk about.
Speaker CRight, right.
Speaker CAnd it was an hour and a half before we ever went to the thermostat.
Speaker CLong story short, they said yes to two brand new high end systems.
Speaker CAnd again, this is a retired couple, and they, they made it clear they're on a budget.
Speaker CAll right, we're on a budget.
Speaker CAwesome.
Speaker CI can help you with that with some great financing or affordable payments, whatever.
Speaker BI love it.
Speaker BJust for grants.
Speaker BWhat, what market were you in and what was the total sell?
Speaker COkay, so that was actually in Memphis, Tennessee.
Speaker CSo.
Speaker CAnd we did two systems.
Speaker CThey were actually package units, believe it or not.
Speaker CAnd we walked away with $42,000.
Speaker CBoom.
Speaker BThat's, that's gorgeous.
Speaker CNow we, I, I did some adjusting with some duct work.
Speaker CWe added a couple of Returns.
Speaker CWe re, we rerouted a dryer vent that was sitting right by an air conditioner.
Speaker CLike these are things that people didn't even notice before.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CLike look, this thing's coming right down here.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CThen we added some other fun stuff, but love it.
Speaker BOh, gorgeous.
Speaker BIncredible.
Speaker BSo and so for everybody that's out there.
Speaker BIt's like if you're in the Tennessee, Memphis, Tennessee area and you're like, oh, this doesn't work in my market.
Speaker BWell, we just proved it.
Speaker BIt does.
Speaker BIt's.
Speaker BThis is human psychology.
Speaker BIt doesn't matter if it's in the city or the country or this, what state you're in.
Speaker BAll the things, north, the south, people are people.
Speaker CPeople are people, whether it's South Carolina or California.
Speaker CThey want heated and cooling, they want comfort, they want energy savings, man, they want clean air.
Speaker CYou have to go, you know, beyond the capacitor, just look a little bit different.
Speaker CBut the only way to do that, like you just said, Sam, is you've got to spend time, you know, to bring it back.
Speaker CWhere you were talking about this mindset and I know when we talked earlier today, you're talking about the seasonality, maybe it's kind of mild in some areas, so you don't have as many call volume or marketed leads.
Speaker CAnd one thing you talked about is not having such this hyper focus that I look at just today or just this week, but maybe start to kind of expand and look at the law of averages of what have you done for the month, what have you done for the quarter for the year.
Speaker CBecause if you start to see it as it's a journey, not just the destination.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CYou sold something.
Speaker CAwesome.
Speaker COkay.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker BWay to go.
Speaker CWay to go.
Speaker CNow do it again.
Speaker CNow do it again.
Speaker CBut if you, I think like you were talking about outside of this myopic view and start to really open up to seed of those winds because we will tend to focus on the negative, right?
Speaker CI will focus on the one job I didn't sell.
Speaker CYou and I had that conversation a few weeks back and you're like, dude, I've never had a zero dollar day.
Speaker CWhat, what's.
Speaker BWhat's going on, right?
Speaker CIt's okay, Sam, let's talk this through, right?
Speaker CIt's gonna be okay.
Speaker CNext day you killed it with like a 25 or $26,000 sale.
Speaker CBut you know, you could have easily got up and been like, yeah, but the.
Speaker CYesterday.
Speaker CYeah, but you remember yesterday, man, it was.
Speaker CLet's learn from what happened, what weren't.
Speaker CWell, what didn't Work well, what am I going to do differently?
Speaker CAnd then you switched it and.
Speaker CAnd so to me, the proof was right there.
Speaker CI mean, Sam, the amazing trainer, the rock and roll guy that could sell ice to an Eskimo, called me, true story.
Speaker CAnd said, dude, I just had a zero dollar day.
Speaker CAnd this is why it's so great to have a coach.
Speaker CBecause the coach says, hey Sam, tell me more.
Speaker CRight?
Speaker CLet's talk it out, man.
Speaker COnce you get it off and we can get rid of the emotion now we can look at some of the facts.
Speaker CWhat, what did we do?
Speaker CWhat did we not?
Speaker CWas it me?
Speaker CWas it the situation?
Speaker CRight?
Speaker CAlways take responsibility first here.
Speaker CWas it something I didn't say, didn't.
Speaker CI didn't explain?
Speaker CI didn't talk about our warranties, whatever.
Speaker COnce we work it out, man, this is the great thing about a coach.
Speaker CThe next day he's back up to bat.
Speaker CHe's right.
Speaker CHe's right up on the bat.
Speaker CHow about the Dodgers?
Speaker CCould you believe it?
Speaker CYou Dodgers in New York?
Speaker CWhere are you going, man?
Speaker BI'm staying at the, I'm staying with the Strozz, man.
Speaker BI'm always Strozz on that one.
Speaker BBut this is a true story, everybody.
Speaker BSo, I mean, and what happened?
Speaker B100%.
Speaker BCoaches get coached from coaches.
Speaker BYou know, Stephen and I, we've absolutely gone back and forth a couple times in the last couple last several years and been like, hey, I've got, I'm having this dilemma.
Speaker BHelp me out here.
Speaker BAnd which is.
Speaker BIt's really awesome.
Speaker BAnd so for one, I'm not, I'm not the coach that, the trainer that you come to the classes.
Speaker BI'm just gonna tell you.
Speaker BWell, you didn't say this part right.
Speaker BAnd that's the reason that didn't close.
Speaker BNo, there's gonna be.
Speaker BSo there's gonna be some off days.
Speaker BI don't go, oh, and six.
Speaker BAnd I did.
Speaker BAnd I had to figure out why.
Speaker BBut that's.
Speaker BInstead of trying to beat my head against the wall and figure it out in my own time.
Speaker BStep outside yourself.
Speaker BSet that ego aside and, and get a hold of a coach because they see it from a different perspective.
Speaker CAnd, and to your point is if you keep it up in your head, it just kind of rolls around.
Speaker CAnd then we, I think we tend to go to the negative.
Speaker CAnd so now all of a sudden the sky is falling.
Speaker CWorst day ever.
Speaker CI can't believe this happened.
Speaker CBut a coach is going to not only help you work through this, but they're going to probably pull Some stuff out of you, like what's really going on, you know, and you discovered, okay, well this is what's happened at my home life or this happened financially and okay, so what do we got to do?
Speaker CSo when we show up at that house, you're in a great peak state to serve that customer.
Speaker CI always say you got to have a walk up song, Sam.
Speaker CYou gotta have a walk up song the moment you bump that curve before you got there, you need 10 seconds of that walk up song, man, I don't care what it is, but you better change that state.
Speaker CWhat's your walk up song, Sam?
Speaker BMy.
Speaker BYeah, actually, mine is actually walk by Pantera.
Speaker BThat's been my walk up.
Speaker BThat's been my walk up song for over 10 years now.
Speaker BI said it.
Speaker BI very intentionally set an anchor with that song.
Speaker BListening to Tony Robbins, I just read Awaken the Giant within and I said, okay, I need an anchor.
Speaker BI like heavy metal.
Speaker BThis is the one.
Speaker BAnd it just fires me up.
Speaker BAnd the second you hear people have commented, the song will come on, it will be out in public, my arms will literally get goosebumps on them.
Speaker BAnd somebody is about to get sold something.
Speaker BIt just happens.
Speaker BI cannot help it.
Speaker BEven if it's as simple as like, okay, selling somebody on the dessert.
Speaker BWe should order.
Speaker BBut conversation shifts and I didn't even know it and people have commented on it.
Speaker BThat's how strong of the anchor is for my walk up song.
Speaker BHow about yours?
Speaker BWhat's your walk up song?
Speaker COh, thank you for asking.
Speaker CMine's the same thing for the last 10 years.
Speaker CIt's Tom Sawyer by Rush.
Speaker CSo I just need to hear that intro and I'm in, right?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CBut share a little bit more about anchoring.
Speaker CLike I'm thinking about this mindset and I understand.
Speaker CI can't control the environment, I can't control the weather, I can't control some things.
Speaker CI can control me.
Speaker CAnd if you've done an episode on anchoring, be sure to put it in the down in the podcast or something.
Speaker BYou know, this is actually really good.
Speaker BI haven't done one specifically on anchoring.
Speaker BThe one that I do want to include in the notes, everybody.
Speaker BIn fact, I'm going to make a note so I don't forget is to include the episode that I did recently on getting out of the summer slump, which is in that episode.
Speaker BIt's an exercise that I always take everybody through when we do tune up calls.
Speaker BAnd it is part of the training when we're talking about how to recognize all of the different areas of our life that influence just our total lives, our performance.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BThere's cell skills, of course, that's one of them.
Speaker BBut outside of that, there's five other categories that I like to categorize.
Speaker BYour nutrition, your fitness.
Speaker BYou can't be a million dollar, have a million dollar mindset if you're eating off the dollar menu.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BNutrition, your fitness, your.
Speaker BThat's some whatever.
Speaker BExercise.
Speaker BWhat gotta sweat every day.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BExercise your relationships.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BAre we intentionally working on improving our relationships with our family, with our friends, with our co workers, all those things?
Speaker BWhat's our personal growth like?
Speaker BAre we act.
Speaker BSo was it Zig Ziglar used to say personal growth is like taking a shower.
Speaker BYou can't just do it once a week and expect it to last all week.
Speaker BYou got to do it every day.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BCredit the greats, the Zig Ziglar.
Speaker CYes.
Speaker BAre we daily listening to audio, using that drive time, university windshield time, podcasts and like this.
Speaker BIf you're listening to this, you're growing.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BAudio books.
Speaker BWhat are we doing?
Speaker BIf we get the minute we get stagnant with that, that can cause things to fail.
Speaker BAnd then the last one is actually your religious or spiritual experience.
Speaker BThat's not saying you have to be a certain type of religion.
Speaker BIt's really about everyone has in their internal core being what they know for themselves to be in alignment with.
Speaker BAre you doing the things you know you're supposed to do for your own spiritual journey?
Speaker BAnd even atheist has a spiritual practice.
Speaker BIt could be, you know, mindfulness and meditation.
Speaker BBut everyone knows they should be doing something and they either are or aren't, that causes other things to fail.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BAnd so that, so what that episode is, that was a long answer to everybody.
Speaker BGo back to that.
Speaker BBut it's really good context for getting into this part.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CAnd let me just say, so Sam's going to put that link in there.
Speaker CI would highly recommend going back and I would just look, you know, don't get overwhelmed.
Speaker CFitness, nutrition, relationship, personal growth, spiritual.
Speaker CWhat I would do is I would listen to that and then I would pick one area that maybe it's the lowest hanging fruit.
Speaker CMaybe you're eating roller dogs at 7:11 every day.
Speaker CSo maybe you need to say, you know what, I'm going to drink enough water, I'm going to eat right while I'm out in the field.
Speaker CMaybe start small.
Speaker CAnd to me, nutrition and fitness, you, you can't show up and be a million dollar salesperson while you're shopping off the Dollar menu.
Speaker CBecause my concern is you sell how you buy.
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker BYou attract what you are.
Speaker BThat's exactly right.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BPeople that have problems with people saying, I want to think about it, I could guarantee you they could recognize their own life.
Speaker BAnd when they're, you know, for example, when I'm talking to people that are.
Speaker BReach out to me about coaching and they're like, man, I'm going to have to think about this.
Speaker BI'm like, I'll always ask, do you have a lot of people ask telling you they're going to think about it when you are in homes and they're like, oh, no.
Speaker BYeah, like, well, it's because you are.
Speaker BYou attract what you are.
Speaker BIf you can make a decision and you can choose, then the people that buy from you can.
Speaker BIf you get three bids, they're going to get three bids.
Speaker BIt's wild how that happens, right?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CSo going back, I would say listen to that, find one and then just start focusing on that one because you're going to see that as you get fitness and nutrition down the next, maybe it's working on, you know, personal growth, maybe there's all sorts of great things.
Speaker CBut bring it back into anchoring.
Speaker BYeah, back to anchoring.
Speaker CAnd why that is such a powerful thing.
Speaker BIt is powerful.
Speaker BSo after the detour, this is what happens when you get two trainers on the same call that we both know a thousand different things that we could train on at all at the same time.
Speaker BAnd so we get all over the map.
Speaker BBut anchoring.
Speaker BAnchoring is super important.
Speaker BThe.
Speaker BThe easy explanat is really just anything that remembers that reminds you something.
Speaker BSo that's like really the simplest explanation reminds you of something, which then causes basically what's called a pattern interrupt.
Speaker BSo if we get in these habits of just the next step and the next step and the next step.
Speaker BFor example, a pattern interrupt to really break it down for everybody listening could be, you know, you're walking down the sidewalk and all of a sudden a siren comes from around the corner and you turn to see what's going on.
Speaker BThat's a pattern interrupt.
Speaker BSomething changed that took attention away from what we're focused on onto something else.
Speaker BSo then we have to decide how to handle that.
Speaker BSo simple explanation for what it is now, how to do it.
Speaker BIt's really cool.
Speaker BIt's really, really simple.
Speaker BIt's basically, you can be in.
Speaker BThere's a way to start it and then there's a way to reinforce it.
Speaker BSo we'll actually cover both of those.
Speaker BThe way to Plant the anchor.
Speaker BAt first, everybody is really just decide what you want as your anchor.
Speaker BWe're talking about walk up songs here because everybody, if you don't know, Stephen is a musician.
Speaker BHe's a, I would say a professional level drummer.
Speaker BAnd this is a great example of what we were just talking about because for everybody that didn't know, and if you watch the YouTubes, you're literally seeing guitars hanging behind me in my home office here.
Speaker BI'm what most of the people, most of the world would call a professional level guitar player.
Speaker BI could go with a little bit of practice.
Speaker BI could hop on tour with just about every band that you listen to on the radio.
Speaker BSteven's the same level with his expertise in drumming.
Speaker BSo here's the lesson.
Speaker BNot only do you attract what you are, you attract people at the.
Speaker BYou can tell someone their competency and their discipline and their work ethic, but buy those things outside of that.
Speaker BSo if you're, if your homeowners are, maybe they're bodybuilders or they're very fit.
Speaker BIf they are disciplined musicians, if they're skilled artists outside of their daily life, that tells you they're good at making decisions and they're very clear and concise at making decisions.
Speaker BSo we'll help you in your process of how you present to them.
Speaker BTotal side note, there's your free nugget of the day.
Speaker CBack to Love it.
Speaker BEverybody listening.
Speaker BWe've got a lot of stuff in this one.
Speaker CSo anchoring is, I just found, because music connects with me, a song can completely change my state.
Speaker CSo.
Speaker CBut I'm really excited to hear about how to reink how to use it.
Speaker BYeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker BSo if you're going to use a song, pick one that already gets fired up anyway, because that just makes it easier to build on top of.
Speaker BSo some people use a song, some people use a specific word, some people use, you know, a hand sign.
Speaker BOr they'll touch their thumb and forefinger together and know that every time they intentionally do that together, that changes their state.
Speaker BIt doesn't matter what it is.
Speaker BIt's anything that is different than your normal daily life that will remind you of what we're about to do.
Speaker BSo the first thing is.
Speaker BOh, go ahead.
Speaker CI was gonna say, I don't know if anyone's watched Patrick Mahomes, why he does this, right?
Speaker CBut after his play, this is a reset and you'll watch him.
Speaker CIf you watch him with the Kansas City Chiefs, you'll see him doing this.
Speaker CHe is resetting his brain.
Speaker CThat Last play's done with, man.
Speaker CIt's done.
Speaker CI could.
Speaker CThere's nothing I could do about that.
Speaker CSo another one, I'll tell you really quick is Josh Kelly with Parker and Sons.
Speaker CHe has an anchor, and it's this little smelly thing.
Speaker CAnd before he speaks or before he goes and trains, he just has to go.
Speaker CIt's nothing crazy.
Speaker CI can get it over the counter, right?
Speaker CBut immediately that smell puts him in that peak state of mind.
Speaker CSo continue.
Speaker BAnd I love this.
Speaker BThis is really fun, too, because that.
Speaker BI actually was aware of that because I spoke on Funny Enough.
Speaker BI was on the sales panel at profit Rocket in 2023 with him, and I watched him do this behind, behind, behind the scenes.
Speaker BGot that from.
Speaker BAnd I as well got that from the Way of the Wolf by Jordan Belfort actually talks about that as the anchor point.
Speaker BSo it's just a kind of a smelling salts type of a thing.
Speaker BThe cool thing is it doesn't matter what your anchor is.
Speaker BIt's how to.
Speaker BSo first of all, how to set it.
Speaker BAnd Stephen, I'm going to actually get you to.
Speaker BWe're going to do this together as well, because for everybody that doesn't know, Stephen has a lot of experience and training in NLP also, which is one of the things that qualifies him to be in this position now.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BBut when we're setting anchors, everybody, it starts with just visualizing your most successful cell and not just not.
Speaker BAnd the numbers don't matter.
Speaker BIt doesn't have to be the biggest sell you ever made.
Speaker BIt has.
Speaker BIt really needs to be the one that you have the most incredible feeling about.
Speaker BImagine.
Speaker BSo the exercises for everybody, in fact, let's do this together.
Speaker BUnless you're driving, remember the spot and go back is you're going to close your eyes and just remember your very favorite cell you ever made.
Speaker BIt can be big cell, little cell.
Speaker BIt can be your favorite because it was a huge number.
Speaker BIt can be your favorite because it was the simplest sell.
Speaker BJust.
Speaker BThey were completely loved, everything you said.
Speaker BThey wanted more.
Speaker BThey kept asking, is there anything else that we can do?
Speaker BIt was the easiest process for the payment.
Speaker BMaybe they financed, maybe they paid cash, but there was no resistance and they loved you.
Speaker BMaybe they gave you some powdered donuts or some sort of gift on the way out in appreciation.
Speaker BYou probably got a hug from the lady and a high five from the guy and shaking hands and thinking, and they're telling you, I'm so glad you were here.
Speaker BNow that I've painted that picture.
Speaker BIn your mind, you all know that cell and that warm feeling, sit in that for a minute and just visualize and really smile.
Speaker BActually put a smile on your face right now and put your hand on your heart and feel, feel it.
Speaker BActually feel how incredible that feels.
Speaker BAnd then, right then in that moment.
Speaker BSo if you're listening to this on replay, have your song queued up and ready, because when you get to that moment, when you get to that moment, sit in that feeling and start that song and just listen to it and smile.
Speaker BAnd what you're telling yourself is, this is incredible.
Speaker BThis is how I feel.
Speaker BThis is the energy, all the things.
Speaker BJust remember every bit of that.
Speaker BSo that's the simple way to set an anchor.
Speaker BAnd it's really, really cool.
Speaker BAnd the reason we do this.
Speaker BSo everybody go ahead and open your eyes.
Speaker BIf you're actually doing this one, then go ahead and open your eyes and you're out of that.
Speaker BBut I don't want to leave you hanging.
Speaker BSo the important part of this and the reason we do this, this is controlling our emotional state.
Speaker BPeople buy sells us what, Transfer of enthusiasm.
Speaker CRight, right.
Speaker BSo, Stephen, let me ask you this.
Speaker BIf you go out, say you're on call, and you go to an appointment that just happens to get booked at, I don't know, Saturday night at 7, are they signing?
Speaker CYes.
Speaker B100.
Speaker BWe know that.
Speaker BYou with the mindset, you're like, man, if they're getting me out my butt out, away from my family, doing what I want at that time of night on the weekend, I'm not leaving without a signature.
Speaker BIt's not that we force them into it, but it just always.
Speaker COtherwise they would have waited till Monday.
Speaker CYou know, they've got a huge pain point.
Speaker CIf they're willing to take a Saturday night and they're willing to pay whatever it takes, whatever.
Speaker CEven if it's, you know, $0, market elite.
Speaker CIf they're willing to spend their kind of time on a Saturday night, the answer is yes, absolutely.
Speaker BAnd what I've always loved about it, too, is, you know, this.
Speaker BAnd this is really fun.
Speaker BYes, that's part of it.
Speaker BBut when we're.
Speaker BWhen I'm always trained, I'm like, let's just forget that part.
Speaker BYes, they're more motivated if they're willing to book on a weekend night.
Speaker BGet it?
Speaker BHowever, we're again, we're controlling what we can control.
Speaker BWhat can we control?
Speaker BI know my mindset.
Speaker BMy mindset is I'm out here right now.
Speaker BI'm not leaving until I get a signature.
Speaker BOn this because it's going to be worth it for my time.
Speaker BBecause my time is valuable.
Speaker CCorrect.
Speaker BNow, the whole point of anchoring, and this is what I love.
Speaker BHow do we take that same mindset and plug it in to say, I don't know, 10 o' clock Tuesday morning when that appointment normally sounds like?
Speaker BOkay, well, email this to us and we're going to think about it.
Speaker BOkay, well how about Friday when we get back to you?
Speaker BYeah, it's the same type of client.
Speaker BWe're the same person in the house.
Speaker BWhy is the conversation so different?
Speaker CSo you, you just saying that right now?
Speaker CWhen you said Tuesday at 10, immediately in my mind, here's what I thought.
Speaker CSam, it's going to be a oneler.
Speaker CThey're getting multiple bids and I'll have to follow up and come back on Friday.
Speaker CNow, why is it I didn't think that when you said 7 o' clock Saturday?
Speaker CBecause I did.
Speaker CI seriously, that I.
Speaker CWhy would I simply navigate to the worst possible solution?
Speaker CWhat is the mind doing?
Speaker CWhy would I say this has got to be the worst?
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CAnd it's probably a renter tenant situation.
Speaker CI mean, I'm just gonna, I didn't necessarily go that far down, but I could start to see what you said Tuesday at 10.
Speaker CI immediately thought, I wonder if it's a onele.
Speaker BWe have way less urgency too.
Speaker BWe feel like the week to work with them.
Speaker CYeah, but, but why would I go all the way down to this negative of the worst that could possibly happen before I've even showed up?
Speaker BRight, right.
Speaker BIt's.
Speaker BWell, a lot of it is just our conditioning.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BIt's what, it's the, this is really a conversation around the stories that we tell ourselves in our head that are either true or not, but we believe it is true.
Speaker BThis is why people say, oh, it's always price or well, here in our town, people don't care about that.
Speaker BThis is all they care about.
Speaker BWell, no, that's just the story you told yourself.
Speaker BBecause in every market, and I know you can do it too, in every market, we can find people who are doing what somebody says can't be done.
Speaker BIn every market we know, you know, service technicians who are doing 2, 3, 4, $5 million a year in every market we know, you know, project managers who are doing 5, 6, 7 million a year.
Speaker BIn the same market, people that are barely doing 1 million say, oh, it's all about price.
Speaker BAnd that's, that's all people care about.
Speaker CI, I love that.
Speaker CSo you're talking about limiting beliefs.
Speaker CAnd then there's this story that's playing inside this movie reel.
Speaker CWhether it's true or not, but we're believing that.
Speaker CSo it goes back to this anchoring that.
Speaker CAnd now if I got the call On Tuesday at 10, I may have to play my song a little bit early.
Speaker BYeah, exactly.
Speaker BAnd we all know we can change our state and here's the reason why we know this and everybody that's listening right now.
Speaker BAnd Stephen, you can confirm if this is true.
Speaker BI've never asked you this question but on those days when you're in the field and you've got an appointment at say 10 o' clock and you are sick as a dog, literally you're about.
Speaker BYou literally feel like you're about to die.
Speaker BBut you've got to go to the appointment because your family needs money.
Speaker BWe've got to hold, you know, we're just well enough to be able to make it.
Speaker BSo what do we do?
Speaker BWe, you know, we hit the nyquil and all the things the day quill and the most incredible thing happens.
Speaker BWe drive up to the curb and this is all the NLP stuff aside, we drive up to the curb and by the time we get out of the car and get to the porch, it's almost like every.
Speaker BIf you've ever seen the ending of the Usual Suspects with Kaiser Selzig, all of a sudden he's crippled and starts walking and his feet, every single step, his feet get straighter and straighter and straighter until he has incredible posture and perfect gait.
Speaker BThat happens when we get out of our car when we're so sick.
Speaker BAnd every single step it's like your energy and your focus and your brain where it goes higher and higher and higher till the time you knock on the door happens to be they open the door and.
Speaker BHey Mr. Dell, Sam Wakefield here with close it now.
Speaker BI'm so happy to see you today.
Speaker BAnd they would never know that you're sick.
Speaker BYou go through it, you muddle through it.
Speaker BWe think we usually close the cell in a moment like that when leave and by the time we get back to the car sink into the seat and almost die.
Speaker BBut what happened?
Speaker BWe were able to control our state, if even only for a short amount of time.
Speaker BNow when we combine that concept with the Saturday night versus Tuesday morning concept, this is how we're able to doesn't matter what your slump was, however many negatives in a row, if you actually re anchor into the the positive and the.
Speaker BThe winning, we're able to Reset that call after call and clean slate it.
Speaker BAnd to the positive side to get in the right state of making the sale.
Speaker BBecause when's the best time to make a sell?
Speaker BRight after we make a sell.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BWe're already right after you got.
Speaker CYou got the momentum.
Speaker BYeah, yeah.
Speaker CSo that I like this idea of this re anchoring.
Speaker CAnd so if.
Speaker CAnd again, an anchor, I mean, you put an anchor down the boat, it doesn't move.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CAnd you're maybe getting into this.
Speaker CBut I'm kind of curious about how to re anchor either while I'm in a call or I understand after, maybe I had a tough call, my next call, I could re anchor pretty easily there.
Speaker CBut I'm really curious how to re anchor when I'm in a call and things may not be going the way I thought they were going to be.
Speaker BYeah, that one's tough, right?
Speaker BThat one's like always the big struggle because it feels like we get into this downward spiral and then like once we start down the slope, it's like all it feels like not true.
Speaker BBut what it feels like is every step now is twice the work just to get back to ground zero.
Speaker BNow we have to remember, of course, our feelings are necessarily not always the truth.
Speaker BSo this is how we're able to temper it a little bit.
Speaker BSo anything you want to add to that before we kind of get into the.
Speaker BThe rest of this?
Speaker CNo, it's.
Speaker CIt's interesting.
Speaker CI didn't know we were going to get so deep into feelings on today's podcast, but I think you, when you understand your customers have feelings and you're serving them, but some of us, it is true.
Speaker CIs it this feeling that I'm having?
Speaker CAnd where did I.
Speaker CWhere did that resonate?
Speaker CWhere did that come from?
Speaker CBecause when you talked about the feelings, I immediately went back to that house where I had the most amazing sale.
Speaker CAnd I was like, I was able to re anchor without my song during that.
Speaker CWhen you were sharing that, I went straight back to that house and I was like, wait a minute.
Speaker CI'm a service professional.
Speaker CI'm very knowledgeable.
Speaker CI'm here to take care of my customer.
Speaker CLet's get back into the game, man.
Speaker BExactly.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BNo, you got it.
Speaker BAnd so in those moments, and in fact, the very, very first time I ever heard anybody talk about.
Speaker BIt's funny.
Speaker BWe're.
Speaker BThis must be a.
Speaker BAn episode to give a shout out to Weldon Long.
Speaker BSo what's up, Wally?
Speaker BYears and years and years ago, I remember the story.
Speaker BIt was the very first Sales training I had ever taken in our industry.
Speaker BAnd it was, you know, he was teaching a class of about, I don't know, 15 of us in Lubbock, Texas.
Speaker BIt's like the second Bryant class he ever taught.
Speaker BAnd the story was he was like a couple years ago, because it was a couple years ago then when he's in the field doing sales with his first company, it was this.
Speaker BIt was a Saturday.
Speaker BHe had in desperate times.
Speaker BOf course, his context was they had no money to pay the bills.
Speaker BHe had to make the sale to keep his own family's lights on.
Speaker BAnd he goes sitting with this homeowner and his wife Saturday morning, perfect timing.
Speaker BNot a one legger, but it was a wall of resistance.
Speaker BWall of resistance.
Speaker BWall of resistance.
Speaker BAnd he's like, I'm missing something.
Speaker BSo what he did in that story, which is really relatable.
Speaker BThey're sitting at the kitchen table and kept hitting this wall of resistance is.
Speaker BYou know what?
Speaker BHang on just a minute.
Speaker BI need to double check something in the basement or in the crawl space, wherever it was, goes and leaves the room.
Speaker BLeaves this.
Speaker BGets himself out of the environment, goes and sits.
Speaker BHe didn't need to measure anything.
Speaker BWhat he was double checking is his own mindset.
Speaker BAnd sat there and went all the way back through it and says, okay, I am.
Speaker BI have the best solution for this problem.
Speaker BI'm here to help them the most.
Speaker BThis is what.
Speaker BAnd just really kind of replayed the conversation.
Speaker BThis is what they told me.
Speaker BWhat am I missing?
Speaker BWe stop asking, you know, telling ourselves, you know, I can't do this and start asking ourselves, how can I do this?
Speaker CYep.
Speaker BSo we replay it.
Speaker BWhat am I missing?
Speaker BSo just the.
Speaker BSo what we can do is just step away.
Speaker BRemember something.
Speaker BNeed to grab some.
Speaker BYou know what?
Speaker BHang on just a second.
Speaker BI just remember I need to grab something out of the truck.
Speaker BI need to grab something out of the van.
Speaker BI got to check something at the unit outside.
Speaker BUp in the attic.
Speaker BIt doesn't matter.
Speaker BBut to remove it and like then have that.
Speaker BThe ability to have the space, to have that reset is really important.
Speaker CI love that.
Speaker CI think that's a very practical of separating yourself just a quick step away.
Speaker CI just need to go check on this.
Speaker CNot to see where what I'm not doing.
Speaker CBut how can I do this?
Speaker CAnd maybe it's some of those incantations.
Speaker CI'm a five star technician.
Speaker CI believe this is the best solution.
Speaker CSo I. I love this idea of maybe it is a walk away for a moment.
Speaker CJust separate Yourself.
Speaker CAnd it probably gives the homeowners a, A little bit of relief as well.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo now they can have a little.
Speaker CBit of a conversation.
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BIt takes the pressure off and so be like, hey, listen, guys, let me go check something.
Speaker BLet's double check and make sure this is the right thing.
Speaker BThe amount of trust.
Speaker BThe amount.
Speaker BIf you like.
Speaker BYou know what?
Speaker BLet's double check this.
Speaker BThe amount of trust you gain with them by confirming yourself is huge.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BIt's wild.
Speaker BThe what we can.
Speaker BAnd at the worst, I mean, even better case scenario is we catch our own mistake if we made one.
Speaker BIf you're just confirming and it's still the same, that's awesome.
Speaker BIf you're confirming and you catch your own mistake and are able to fix it right there in front of them, say, I'm so glad we did this.
Speaker BThis is why we're as thorough as we are.
Speaker BYou won't find anyone else that's this thorough.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BI'm glad we double checked it because now here's what we're looking at.
Speaker BWow.
Speaker BThe credibility is huge.
Speaker CThat's a great separation.
Speaker CThen the story you tell.
Speaker CI just want to double check something and then do check.
Speaker CMake sure you didn't miss anything and actually do check and then check yourself before you wreck yourself.
Speaker CThat's the song.
Speaker CYou know, there's a song for everything.
Speaker CIt's a song for everything.
Speaker CI, I again.
Speaker CYeah, you better check yourself.
Speaker COkay.
Speaker CI love this idea.
Speaker CSo it goes back to the anchoring of what is the feeling?
Speaker CWhat did that feel like, smell like, taste like?
Speaker CAnd then what do you have to do?
Speaker CHit the song.
Speaker CMaybe it's a song.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CWe had a technician that before he got to each call, he would pull over and actually get out of his van and, and do five jumping jacks, get back in his van and then get to the house.
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker CThe weirdest thing, but that was his changing his state immediately, you know, So I, I love those things about the.
Speaker CYour thoughts drive your behavior and being very intentional and, and having an anchor, that would be a great challenge to find that acre.
Speaker BThat's it.
Speaker BBecause again, it's the, you know, the best.
Speaker BThe reason we say for everybody, and this is why it's important when the reason we say the best time to make a sale is right after we've made a sale.
Speaker BThis, this absolutely builds on this idea because.
Speaker BAnd everybody driving, I mean, raise your hand if you know what that feels like.
Speaker BYou make this awesome sell and you walk into the next house and the next house and it goes so smooth and so easy, and it feels like you're just taking an order all day long.
Speaker BWell, it's because you're already in the right energy.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BWe're already expect it to happen.
Speaker BSo it happens.
Speaker BIt didn't have anything to do with the leads.
Speaker BIt didn't have anything to do with the season.
Speaker BIt was when we start to take radical responsibility for ourselves.
Speaker BHey, it was.
Speaker BThat was me.
Speaker BIt was a my fault.
Speaker BIf it was good, it's my fault.
Speaker BIt was bad.
Speaker BIf it's to be, it's up to me.
Speaker BSo let's make it happen, right?
Speaker CRadical responsibility, man.
Speaker CYou're dropping some nice ones today, Sam.
Speaker CRadical responsibility, man.
Speaker BWell, this is fun.
Speaker BI don't normally.
Speaker BWhen normally I'm like the interviewer and I kind of feel like we turn this and you start interviewing me.
Speaker BSo it's just kind of.
Speaker BIt's really fun because you're able to pull.
Speaker BSo this is a great lesson, everybody.
Speaker BI'm dawning on me and I appreciate you for doing this, Stephen, because I see you with this almost little grin is.
Speaker BThis is a good example of what a good coach does for everybody.
Speaker BWe did not plan this episode other than I said, hey, I want to talk about mindset today.
Speaker CSo that was literally it.
Speaker BThat was it.
Speaker BAnd so Stephen, of course, started asking great coaching questions, which pulled out a huge topic that I'm really passionate about, but I've never trained at all on the show and it turned into that episode.
Speaker BSo that's.
Speaker BThis is a great example of how coaching is able to move people forward really quickly.
Speaker BBecause, I mean, it just happened and you heard it.
Speaker BAnd that's.
Speaker BThat's why, of course, one of the reasons that I of course, brought Steven onto the team and it's just such a fun place to be when we realize we're able to help people achieve so much more than they even thought possible.
Speaker BAnd because we can see the blind spots that they don't see.
Speaker CYeah, everyone deserves a coach, man.
Speaker CEveryone deserves someone in their corner saying, hey, man, I got you.
Speaker CBut I like that.
Speaker CRadical responsibility, man.
Speaker CI like, hey, you know, it's not.
Speaker CIt's.
Speaker CIt's.
Speaker CHow can I do this?
Speaker CIt's finding that anchor and setting it on how that felt and then re anchoring if you need to just need to double check something, separate yourself.
Speaker CBut that would be the challenge, I would say on this episode, man, is find that acre and then reset as much as possible.
Speaker CIt doesn't not only work in the field for sales, but it Also works in relationships.
Speaker CSometimes I have to ask my, my wife, can I get a reset?
Speaker CI'm an idiot, can I get a reset?
Speaker CAnd she says yes.
Speaker CThen I, we push a button and, and I get a reset.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CIt doesn't mean I don't get completely forgiven or forgot.
Speaker CI still have to be responsible for my actions.
Speaker CBut sometimes I could get into my, my own world and for my relationship.
Speaker CIt's.
Speaker CIt's listening.
Speaker CLet them feeling heard.
Speaker CThey want to feel heard and understood.
Speaker CAnd if I don't do that I need to reset to be present in that 100%.
Speaker BSo 100%.
Speaker BI love this topic so much.
Speaker BSo it is getting close to time to land this plane but I would love to take a minute.
Speaker BSo everybody that's been listening you have gotten a, you know, got a good feel for Stephen and how he thinks.
Speaker BWe think very similar.
Speaker BWe definitely are very, very, very, very much of the belief that you know, the way that people buy in the last handful of years has really dramatically changed and it is so permission based driven.
Speaker BIt's very feelings and emotion driven and really it always has been.
Speaker BWe were just lazy and we got, we did well enough to not realize this but.
Speaker BAnd it's definitely very apparent now and this is why so many people are getting more want to think about it.
Speaker BMore people shopping than ever before because they're not not stepping into this method of how to communicate.
Speaker BThis is not sales training.
Speaker BThis is communication training.
Speaker BIt's training to care for people better.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CWell, I was going to say trust.
Speaker CThink about trust.
Speaker CTrust is a feeling like you've been at a place.
Speaker CYou're like I just don't know about this guy.
Speaker CI just don't know.
Speaker CSo you're right.
Speaker CThere is a lot of hesitation in coming out of a world of COVID where there's a lot of uncertainty.
Speaker CIf you walk in with certainty that you're going to take care of them and you're going to serve them, you're going to give them the best solution at the best price and you're going to spend time to get to know their pain.
Speaker CThey will feel that certainty and that feeling of trust will reciprocate to a yes, let's get you on the calendar.
Speaker CSo but you got to get that mind right 100%.
Speaker BSo everybody, this is one I wanted to introduce you a lot more in depth to Mr. Stephen Dale let you know he is the newest trainer on board of the close it now team.
Speaker BFirst is he.
Speaker BThat also means that his slots for one on one Virtual coaching are open.
Speaker BThere is an incredible bonus that everyone who all of the people that sign up to initially fill his calendar, you are going to get the bonus of.
Speaker BI'm also going to be your trainer at the same time.
Speaker BSo you'll get a both, which is really cool.
Speaker BIt's literally two for the price of one or half price coaching.
Speaker BHowever you want to look at it.
Speaker BMore importantly, talk about being more than one set of eyes and ears to catch blind spots.
Speaker BHow much would you pay to be coached by two close it now trainers?
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BDo you think that you would be able to make more sales at a higher average ticket?
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BYes or yes?
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BSo that is what's going on.
Speaker BWe've opened the calendar for Stephen, so definitely reach out.
Speaker BYou can email us at stephenoseitnow.net s t e p h e n closeitnow.net you can email me sam closeitnow.net that's s a m of course, closeitnow.net and go to the website closeitnow.net everything is very consistent.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BAnd make sure to join the Facebook group because also we are going to be doing a lot more training in there than we have we've done.
Speaker BWe do lots of trainings in there all the time.
Speaker BWe're going to be doubling up on the trainings.
Speaker BIf you didn't know, every other week I host a live objection roleplay training where to give you the chance all across the country, especially if you don't have support locally to be able to hop in.
Speaker BIn fact, Steven, would you like to take a minute and talk to us about that importance of that support?
Speaker BEspecially if you're like on an.
Speaker BI feel like you're on an island.
Speaker CSomewhere from an accountability standpoint or for someone that, that.
Speaker CI mean, that's why the Wednesday things on the objection, you're going to hear all sorts of objections and, and again, are they objections?
Speaker CAre they statements?
Speaker CBut you get some great feedback and you think, man, I like that.
Speaker CI'm going to try this.
Speaker CMaybe that wasn't a real objection, but having a support system, man, you, I'm telling you, you've got to have accountability.
Speaker CYou've got to have someone that says, man, I want to help you in your success.
Speaker CAnd this is why if you look at any great business person, entrepreneurial, they all have a coach.
Speaker CThey all have someone.
Speaker CSam has a coach, I have a coach.
Speaker CYou've got to have a coach, someone that is going to push you to become better because otherwise you're going to get into your own Little blinders, you'll get into those limiting beliefs and the next thing you know, the sky is falling.
Speaker B100%.
Speaker B100%.
Speaker BI agree so much.
Speaker BThere's.
Speaker BAnd you know, and like when I was starting, man, I was the, I was the only sales guy in a tiny Texas town with didn't know any other even companies around.
Speaker BAnd all the training I had was just what I could find on CD or at the time to listen to.
Speaker BAnd so if I had had a network like this online where I could just hop in every couple weeks and hey, I'm getting this objection.
Speaker BHow would you guys handle this?
Speaker BBoy, I know that my success numbers would have been dramatically faster.
Speaker BSo for everybody, we do that every other week.
Speaker BYou can find out more about that in the Facebook group.
Speaker BThe in between weeks we do just live training on whatever the topics are that people put in and request us to talk about.
Speaker BSo if you have an idea for a podcast, if you have an idea for a deep dive into one of those video sessions that are free to everyone in the Facebook group, email it to us and let us know if you'd like us to cover something.
Speaker BAnd the very last thing is so reCAP.
Speaker BEmail Steven S-T E P H E N@CloseItNow.net Email me samosenow.net or go to the website and fill out the inquiry form to get on our calendar for one on one virtual coaching to get you to the next level.
Speaker BThe other thing, of course, join the Facebook group if you've ever gotten value from this podcast reviews are everything.
Speaker BSo go to Google, leave a close.
Speaker BWould love a five star review at Google.
Speaker BGo Apple podcast, leave a five star review there.
Speaker BJust if I read your review on this show and you hear it, message me and you are the recipient of one our free coaching session, zero strings attached.
Speaker BThat is what we're giving away.
Speaker BIf you leave, it's a five star review and we read it on the show and you hear it and you message us, you get a coaching session.
Speaker BSo I would love it to be like Oprah.
Speaker BYou get a coaching session.
Speaker BYou get a coaching session.
Speaker BEverybody gets a coaching session.
Speaker BLeave me a five star review, we'll make it happen.
Speaker BNot me, the show.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BWell, that is it, man.
Speaker BThanks for being on.
Speaker BI feel like this is the beginning of probably a regular series we'll do.
Speaker BAnd man, I'm excited to have you on board.
Speaker BAnd watch out everyone in the industry, we're making some pretty serious, very, very serious waves in 2024.
Speaker BAnd the last request is who do you know, that has an inkling to be a trainer because we are have now opened the doors and if you feel like you have the criteria and what it takes with the personal growth and you have some verifiable closer numbers in our industry or home services, message me.
Speaker BI would absolutely love to talk to you because the only way we can impact the amount of people that we have a heart to impact is by adding more team to be able to help more people faster.
Speaker BAnd that's truly the heart of the company.
Speaker BSo, Stephen, any last words before we say our final departures here?
Speaker CMan, just I, I would go back to the anchoring thing.
Speaker CI would listen to that other podcast about the spiritual, financial, nutrition relationship, personal growth.
Speaker CI would just say that Sam and I are here to simply help you in your success.
Speaker CSo whether it's the, the free every other Wednesday objections, whether it's the other free trainings, if you get to a point where you want the one on one coaching and level up where you're at currently, both Sam and I are here to help you in your journey 100%.
Speaker CSo it's not about us at all.
Speaker CIt's about you.
Speaker BOh, love it, love it, love it.
Speaker BI couldn't concur more.
Speaker BDr. And everybody, thanks for listening.
Speaker BWe wouldn't, we wouldn't even be able to do this without you and your support.
Speaker BSo thank you so much.
Speaker BGo join the Facebook group and until next time, everybody be someone worth buying from.
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