John and Connie: Hi, and welcome
Speaker:to another episode of Celebrating
Speaker:Small Family Businesses where
Speaker:we showcase passion in action.
Speaker:And today we are celebrating Ron
Speaker:and Lori Genna of Hudson Duct
Speaker:Cleaning in Hudson, Florida.
Speaker:Hey Ron.
Speaker:Hey Lori.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: Hi.
Speaker:Hi.
Speaker:John and Connie: Welcome to the podcast.
Speaker:Welcome to the show.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: Thank
Speaker:John and Connie: So that introduction, uh,
Speaker:that last little part is a new edition.
Speaker:And, so I had to really think
Speaker:about it as I was saying it and
Speaker:we may edit a little bit of that.
Speaker:This is a wonderful
Speaker:thing about podcasting.
Speaker:We can edit half a word
Speaker:if we want to, right.
Speaker:So tell us a little bit about like how
Speaker:did Hudson Duct Cleaning come to be?
Speaker:Ron and Lori: So, yeah.
Speaker:Um, I did a lot of networking in different
Speaker:groups in the area for the last 20
Speaker:years or so, somewhere around there.
Speaker:Lori, Lori and I both have been
Speaker:involved in different groups.
Speaker:There's a group out of Spring Hill
Speaker:and I met this man, Dan Chapman.
Speaker:And Dan actually, uh, he, he created this
Speaker:program, you know, of, of this type of.
Speaker:Sanitizing air ducts instead of
Speaker:going in there with whips and
Speaker:brushes and all that kind of thing.
Speaker:And so, um, he kind of created
Speaker:that whole, that whole thing.
Speaker:And so he did our house, right?
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:He did our mother's house and we knew
Speaker:him for all these, all those years.
Speaker:Well, when I turned 62 years old, I said
Speaker:to Laurie, I said, I guess I'm gonna be
Speaker:able to retire now, because I'm gonna
Speaker:have a Social Security check coming in.
Speaker:Then I looked at the check and
Speaker:said, Whoop, I better do something.
Speaker:Rethink that idea.
Speaker:John and Connie: Yep.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: So I went ahead and I bought
Speaker:a, uh, Prius and I started to, uh, do some
Speaker:Ubering, just, just, you know, passive
Speaker:income just to make a little income.
Speaker:And I wound up doing pretty good.
Speaker:I was making eight to nine hundred a week,
Speaker:sometimes a thousand a week and that kind
Speaker:of stuff for, you know, for Uber driving,
Speaker:it was, it was good.
Speaker:And I love talking to people and
Speaker:people has always been my thing.
Speaker:So, uh, that kind of fit right
Speaker:in with my character and all.
Speaker:And so I'm talking to Dan , as he
Speaker:came to treat one of the houses
Speaker:and, and he said, my goodness, you
Speaker:know everything about my business.
Speaker:Why don't you buy like a, a limited
Speaker:partnership or a franchise or something?
Speaker:I went home to Lori and I was doing
Speaker:the Uber for maybe 6 to 8 months or
Speaker:maybe a little bit longer than that.
Speaker:I said, you know, I I just need
Speaker:to get more involved in something
Speaker:where I can make some decent
Speaker:money and that kind of thing.
Speaker:And so, uh, we, we wound up talking to him
Speaker:about it and uh, discussed the proposition
Speaker:of buying a limited partnership.
Speaker:And, I said to him, you, do you
Speaker:think it's, it's possible that if
Speaker:I worked pretty hard at it, I can
Speaker:make a thousand dollars a week?
Speaker:And he just kind of looked at me with a
Speaker:puzzled look, like are Are you for real?
Speaker:You know, like a thousand bucks a week.
Speaker:You know, that was like,
Speaker:that's like nothing in the
Speaker:business that he was doing.
Speaker:You know, he says sometimes
Speaker:we make that in a day.
Speaker:I came home and talked to Laurie and
Speaker:we, we discussed it, we put the money
Speaker:aside and we, we paid him and, and
Speaker:he trained us in this, uh, industry.
Speaker:And then, we went ahead and got
Speaker:OSHA certified where we studied
Speaker:mold, bacteria, fungus, and virus.
Speaker:And so we're OSHA certified
Speaker:for mold remediation.
Speaker:So that, that became
Speaker:an, an incredible thing.
Speaker:So we started the business, what,
Speaker:about four and a half years ago, right?
Speaker:We started it at right
Speaker:about the time of COVID.
Speaker:John and Connie: Oh, perfect.
Speaker:Well, perfect.
Speaker:Maybe, I don't know.
Speaker:So that's a great question because.
Speaker:We're talking about
Speaker:something that, there we go.
Speaker:We're talking about something
Speaker:that not only kills mold, but
Speaker:it also kills other bacteria.
Speaker:Right?
Speaker:And viruses.
Speaker:So sanitation became a big deal during
Speaker:Covid and, and was it a boom for you?
Speaker:Ron and Lori: We well did
Speaker:really well for when, yeah.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:You
Speaker:John and Connie: I would think.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: We had people come
Speaker:to the house with COVID, because
Speaker:they so desperately wanted to
Speaker:get out of their home just 'cause
Speaker:everybody was so homebound.
Speaker:They said, can we come over?
Speaker:We just wanna come over for coffee
Speaker:and maybe play a game or two.
Speaker:Sure.
Speaker:Come on over.
Speaker:They're here and they're
Speaker:like just sweating profusely.
Speaker:And I'm like, are you guys alright?
Speaker:No, We're fine.
Speaker:We're fine.
Speaker:Night goes, they leave.
Speaker:The next morning they text and
Speaker:say, we're so sorry, but we
Speaker:both tested positive for Covid.
Speaker:We knew it and, and we're like, Okay,
Speaker:we kind of knew something was, we're so
Speaker:sorry we just had to get outta the house.
Speaker:I said, no worries.
Speaker:The house has been treated and
Speaker:everything's good, and we never had the
Speaker:first symptom, the first issue ever,
Speaker:because the house had been treated.
Speaker:And because you know, the antimicrobials
Speaker:are, they, they last in the system
Speaker:and when you're running the fan,
Speaker:those uh, natural antimicrobials are
Speaker:cleaning the air and, and any kind
Speaker:of bacteria or virus in the air,
Speaker:uh, well, it's out of their mouth.
Speaker:You know, it's an airborne virus, right.
Speaker:John and Connie: Right.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: uh, MRSA,
Speaker:different things of that nature.
Speaker:And so it winds up that, um, it
Speaker:takes two hours for a virus to
Speaker:settle, for it to be effective.
Speaker:So if it's coming out of their
Speaker:mouth and it's being introduced to
Speaker:antimicrobials, it's dying immediately.
Speaker:And so tell people when I do a job.
Speaker:And hopefully I told you to you
Speaker:guys this when I did yours there.
Speaker:But we always tell people that, uh, when
Speaker:you have company coming, run your fan,
Speaker:just the fan by itself, it doesn't have
Speaker:to have the air on, but the fan for a half
Speaker:hour before they come and, and an hour
Speaker:after they leave, in case they come in,
Speaker:you don't know what people are carrying.
Speaker:They
Speaker:John and Connie: don't even know.
Speaker:They don't know
Speaker:Ron and Lori: themselves..
Speaker:You know, they got kids that go to
Speaker:school, they bring home everything.
Speaker:How we got introduced to the whole
Speaker:thing, and it's been wonderful.
Speaker:The first year we, we, uh,
Speaker:signed up and we did a thing
Speaker:with RGA, a networking company.
Speaker:I don't know if you're
Speaker:familiar with them or not.
Speaker:John and Connie: Yeah, kind of familiar.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: Revenue
Speaker:Generating Activities.
Speaker:And so we, we signed up with them,
Speaker:uh, was introduced to them by
Speaker:a man named Gordon, Dr. Gordon.
Speaker:And, um, he introduced us to them.
Speaker:And, and the first year was, we
Speaker:could say we, they did about 40%.
Speaker:They gave us about 40% of our business.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Every year since then, it has doubled
Speaker:and doubled again and doubled again.
Speaker:You know, so just shows you.
Speaker:It's a necessity and we don't ever ask
Speaker:for reviews or testimonies, but people
Speaker:give us reviews and testimonies, like
Speaker:the most incredible things that they say.
Speaker:And I'm, I'm taken back and I get
Speaker:excited to hear what they have to say.
Speaker:Uh, Well it was, from another
Speaker:group, but she never said anything.
Speaker:was getting ready to contact her
Speaker:for her annual renew, her annual
Speaker:reshoot, and she, I saw a post.
Speaker:She said she put on there, her
Speaker:review that it was last year.
Speaker:She said, when I had it done, my son had
Speaker:allergies, was on allergy medication.
Speaker:She said, antibiotics,
Speaker:antibiotics, sinus infection.
Speaker:She said it was over
Speaker:and over and over again.
Speaker:She said, since we had this done,
Speaker:she says, neither one of us have
Speaker:been on anything, had any issues.
Speaker:Yeah, and I'm like, I had no idea until
Speaker:I called her for the annual re-shoot.
Speaker:I'm like, wow, this is great.
Speaker:Like a great testimony.
Speaker:Wow!
Speaker:That excites us.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:when we hear stuff like
Speaker:that.
Speaker:And we didn't even know it.
Speaker:It was almost a year later.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:When she actually told us
Speaker:about this, we had no idea.
Speaker:You know, bad news travels fast.
Speaker:The good stuff takes.
Speaker:John and Connie: It takes more time.
Speaker:Exactly.
Speaker:That's right.
Speaker:Well, if you've got, um, a bruise
Speaker:or, or something hurts, right?
Speaker:It's notifying you that
Speaker:something's going on right now,
Speaker:But, try to remember the last
Speaker:bruise you had before that.
Speaker:Where was it?
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:It's, we forget really fast.
Speaker:So the, when the pain stops, we just
Speaker:move on to the next thing, move on
Speaker:to the next pain, whatever that is.
Speaker:Oh my goodness.
Speaker:I, I've gotta ask about the,
Speaker:the franchise part of it.
Speaker:You said limited partnership, but I had
Speaker:heard franchise before and I was thinking
Speaker:that maybe this was a national franchise.
Speaker:Is it not?
Speaker:Is it just local that this guy created?
Speaker:Ron and Lori: not really.
Speaker:No, it's not.
Speaker:It's the guy actually, uh, who
Speaker:created again, Dan Chapman.
Speaker:He, he probably has sold maybe 30, 35.
Speaker:of these limited
Speaker:partnerships to people
Speaker:in different states.
Speaker:Even I know there's, uh, there's some in,
Speaker:uh, uh, Texas and there's some in Georgia
Speaker:and that kind of like, that's done.
Speaker:Since then, he's moved.
Speaker:He's moved to, I think, no.
Speaker:Washington.
Speaker:Washington, Washington.
Speaker:And uh, so I'm sure there's another
Speaker:branch going on in Washington right now.
Speaker:John and Connie: I would bet.
Speaker:They have plenty of
Speaker:humidity there, and so.
Speaker:State or DC?
Speaker:Ron and Lori: Uh, DC
Speaker:No state, no Washington
Speaker:John and Connie: State.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Ah, turns out we lived
Speaker:there for a while, so.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Well they used to joke about, they,
Speaker:they, they have slugs out there
Speaker:that are, you know, uh, I mean
Speaker:serious big slugs and kid, they joke
Speaker:about that being the state bird,
Speaker:but like we do with our
Speaker:famous Palmetto bugs.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:But yeah, they,
Speaker:Ron and Lori: In 1975, when I first
Speaker:moved down here to Florida, I was
Speaker:18 years old and I came down, I
Speaker:never seen a palmetto bug before.
Speaker:And um, and I moved into a, an apartment
Speaker:complex that had these, these big
Speaker:beams go running across, you know,
Speaker:rustic beams going across there.
Speaker:I was in bed, uh, one night and I
Speaker:felt something land on my chest.
Speaker:It just fell off the beam.
Speaker:Right on my chest.
Speaker:And so I instantly just did this,
Speaker:you know, and squeezed and I felt
Speaker:all those, like something in my head.
Speaker:I looked
Speaker:John and Connie: Oh my goodness.
Speaker:Welcome to Florida.
Speaker:I'm telling you, I can, I can remember
Speaker:waking up and feeling something
Speaker:and waking up and having something
Speaker:crawling on my arm, and, uh, oh yeah.
Speaker:But probably my worst one was I, I
Speaker:had a hoodie, you know, a hoodie,
Speaker:hooded sweatshirt, and I put it on,
Speaker:zipped it up and threw the hood up and
Speaker:whatever it was in the hood, and it
Speaker:went down my back and I was dancing.
Speaker:Connie probably remembers
Speaker:that it was quite a show.
Speaker:Oh, I do.
Speaker:was, it was, it was quite funny actually.
Speaker:Oh, Florida.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: That funny,
Speaker:John and Connie: Told you we
Speaker:have fun on these podcasts.
Speaker:right.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: you, that's.
Speaker:John and Connie: No, no, no.
Speaker:The only one I really had was
Speaker:we were sitting in a movie
Speaker:theater and I had my arm down and
Speaker:Ron and Lori: Oh,
Speaker:John and Connie: yeah.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: I think there's only one
Speaker:thing that could be worse than that,
Speaker:and that would be like if a mouse or,
Speaker:John and Connie: There you go.
Speaker:Yeah, I would, I would
Speaker:like not like that either.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker:So, well, so let's get off of bugs.. Yeah.
Speaker:So for about, about four years
Speaker:ago, and you, you found this,
Speaker:but I know from knowing you.
Speaker:So for our listeners, uh, we have,
Speaker:we have met, you mentioned we are,
Speaker:you know, um, customers of yours
Speaker:and, um, and love your, the product.
Speaker:Love it.
Speaker:And, um.
Speaker:I just look forward to, to it
Speaker:coming because I love the smell.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Oh, it does.
Speaker:Fabulous.
Speaker:And, um, then, uh, we've also,
Speaker:you know, been involved in that
Speaker:same, uh, networking group.
Speaker:So we, we do have a, a history together.
Speaker:So I've heard you speak, and I know
Speaker:that prior to this, you, you know,
Speaker:back in many years past, you guys have
Speaker:been in business together in, in real
Speaker:estate investing and, and flipping.
Speaker:Is that right?
Speaker:Ron and Lori: That's correct.
Speaker:You know, um, I guess years ago we,
Speaker:we decided, uh, you know, not to allow
Speaker:other people to determine how much
Speaker:we're worth, you know, but, and that,
Speaker:that would be, you know, JOB, right.
Speaker:And so I've, I've, I've been unemployed
Speaker:for like 35 years, you know, so
Speaker:self-employed.
Speaker:But, um, we, when we got together,
Speaker:I, I was, um, just now breaking into,
Speaker:I'll tell you a, a really funny story.
Speaker:You ever heard of the
Speaker:company called Melaleuca?
Speaker:John and Connie: Mm-hmm.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: So, you know, I went
Speaker:to work hard and built a, a pretty
Speaker:large organization with Melaleuca.
Speaker:I did it in three Denny's.
Speaker:The Denny's in Hudson, the Denny's
Speaker:in Trouble Creek Road and the
Speaker:Denny's down at Palm Harbor.
Speaker:I would meet people every day at a
Speaker:different Denny's and sign 'em up and,
Speaker:and I had a pretty good, uh, was very
Speaker:good at it.
Speaker:Business.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And so, so then it wound up at, uh,
Speaker:you know, Lori and I got together.
Speaker:I was, I was just getting into
Speaker:buying and selling properties and
Speaker:so, uh, I had look at it and say.
Speaker:This don't make any sense.
Speaker:I'm getting $25 for a signup
Speaker:fee and maybe $2.50 on their
Speaker:order every month, you know?
Speaker:So I had to build up a whole bunch
Speaker:of them, and I had it to where I was,
Speaker:I was doing maybe about a thousand
Speaker:$1,200 a month in, in residual income.
Speaker:Well, it's kind of a funny thing because.
Speaker:Um, we, we, and I'm going into the
Speaker:real estate part of it, but here
Speaker:it is 22 years later now, um, that
Speaker:I, in 21 years of that, I haven't
Speaker:even looked at that business.
Speaker:And every month we still get
Speaker:a check from Melaleuca, which
Speaker:is a great testimony to the,
Speaker:Wow, that particular company.
Speaker:John and Connie: it is.
Speaker:And that, that also puts you in a
Speaker:rare, you know, a top, I don't know if
Speaker:it's top 10% or 5% or whatever, but.
Speaker:in that industry that Oh yeah,
Speaker:Ron and Lori: Down, down, down, down.
Speaker:John and Connie: it, yes, that is,
Speaker:it will because there's, there's,
Speaker:there's attrition in people's lives
Speaker:change and you know, it, there
Speaker:Ron and Lori: I'm not on top of it.
Speaker:I don't
Speaker:connect with it for 21 years.
Speaker:I haven't looked at it, you
Speaker:know, so, but that broke me into
Speaker:buying and selling properties.
Speaker:And so when I got with Lori, you know,
Speaker:with her, her, the thing I was missing
Speaker:was those all organizational skills.
Speaker:You know, I, I'm the people person.
Speaker:I make the deal, I'll close the deal, but
Speaker:to have somebody put all the paperwork
Speaker:together and do all that stuff, and
Speaker:she's just like incredibly good at it.
Speaker:In fact, I'll tell you funny story
Speaker:after this, but, um, I put her in a
Speaker:position with an accountant who had
Speaker:papers everywhere, all over the office.
Speaker:And I said, oh, my wife could
Speaker:straighten that out in a week.
Speaker:You know?
Speaker:Well, she couldn't.
Speaker:She was crying because he was
Speaker:just scattered everywhere.
Speaker:Anyway, it just, it just didn't work out.
Speaker:It was too far.
Speaker:So, but that's how good she is though.
Speaker:I mean, she's just like organization.
Speaker:And so with that, we wound up buying and
Speaker:selling, flipping and keeping, over 40
Speaker:properties till 2008 when the market fell.
Speaker:And then we, we were able to
Speaker:unload, thank God, uh, nine of
Speaker:those properties real quick.
Speaker:And, uh, and that's go, gone from there.
Speaker:But it was, it was an interesting
Speaker:time and I, I still, I dabble.
Speaker:You know, in, uh, buying
Speaker:property here, property there.
Speaker:Speak, spoke to somebody last week about
Speaker:maybe buying a little mobile home park.
Speaker:You know, that, that, that has, uh, where
Speaker:they own the property, not, not where you,
Speaker:I rent the property, rent the property.
Speaker:I don't like that kind of
Speaker:thing, where the people actually
Speaker:buy the mobile home and own.
Speaker:John and Connie: We've
Speaker:got a history there too.
Speaker:My parents started and, and ran
Speaker:a mobile in the early eighties.
Speaker:In the eighties, yeah.
Speaker:But
Speaker:during the boom times and, and we
Speaker:were selling the land and it was
Speaker:like swimming upstream because,
Speaker:you know, we were one out of.
Speaker:50 and, and the other 49
Speaker:were, were renting the land.
Speaker:And, and so all the customers that
Speaker:they only could think was, you
Speaker:know, that was their only paradigm.
Speaker:No sense.
Speaker:Why in the world would I give you
Speaker:$10,000 for a lot when I can just
Speaker:pay the rent and the rent's so cheap.
Speaker:And oh, by the way, that was when
Speaker:interest rates were 18% on CDs.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: It.
Speaker:Oh.
Speaker:John and Connie: was a very
Speaker:hard way to go for us back then.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: Wow.
Speaker:No, that's
Speaker:great.
Speaker:So.
Speaker:that's how that, that's basically
Speaker:it on the real estate part,
Speaker:but I just never saw any sense
Speaker:of, of working for a company.
Speaker:Pretty much, pretty much all my,
Speaker:all my life.
Speaker:When I came to Florida in 1975, within
Speaker:a year, a year or two, I started
Speaker:developing my own janitorial service.
Speaker:I had.
Speaker:Columbia restaurant.
Speaker:I had the Howard Johnson chain and Howard
Speaker:Johnson restaurant on Charlie's restaurant
Speaker:at 20, and
Speaker:John and Connie: Yay.
Speaker:So you're a, you're just kind
Speaker:of a natural entrepreneur.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: I I love it.
Speaker:I really do.
Speaker:We do?
Speaker:Yes, absolutely.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:But I always missed that and now I have.
Speaker:John and Connie: There you go.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:So that, I mean, that brings us
Speaker:to another one of our mm-hmm.
Speaker:You just answered one of our favorite
Speaker:questions, which is, you know, how have
Speaker:you guys figured out, you know, your roles
Speaker:and, and your lane, your lane and, and all
Speaker:that, and how, you know, working together,
Speaker:clearly you, you, you knew your strengths.
Speaker:You, you figured 'em out
Speaker:real fast and, and you go
Speaker:Ron and Lori: I definitely know his
Speaker:lane is to do the duct cleaning.
Speaker:That's not my lane.
Speaker:They would
Speaker:John and Connie: Yeah.
Speaker:We've never seen you out
Speaker:there doing that, by the way.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: That's not my lane.
Speaker:Well, if, here's one, one
Speaker:indicator of the lanes.
Speaker:You look at my face and you look
Speaker:at hers and you say she's, she's
Speaker:definitely the one who gets out to
Speaker:the networking meetings now and does
Speaker:all that kind of stuff and talks
Speaker:John and Connie: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker:She works well as the face
Speaker:of Hudson Duct cleaning.
Speaker:Yes, she does.
Speaker:And marketing is.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: However, I will say he,
Speaker:he is the person that if a phone call
Speaker:comes you, I would rather him taking
Speaker:the incoming calls, because if a call
Speaker:comes in, 95 to 98%, he will close.
Speaker:Just, that's just on
Speaker:that first phone call.
Speaker:Close 'em set 'em, they're done.
Speaker:For me, I'll get 'em.
Speaker:But I may not get that,
Speaker:that same percentage.
Speaker:But he's just a natural
Speaker:because he does it.
Speaker:So he knows every in, every
Speaker:out and every aspect of it.
Speaker:Plus he's the one that's
Speaker:trained, you know, certified.
Speaker:So he knows all the
Speaker:technical stuff when I don't.
Speaker:So that's, that's his link.
Speaker:It's a weird thing to study mold.
Speaker:I.
Speaker:John and Connie: Well, it's, and.
Speaker:That's right.
Speaker:Ask my girl.
Speaker:So what is, what is something that,
Speaker:um, that being in business together,
Speaker:whether it's the real estate or, or
Speaker:Hudson or both, that you've learned
Speaker:about each other that you didn't know
Speaker:just from your personal relationship?
Speaker:Ron and Lori: Well, I'll tell you one,
Speaker:one thing I learned about Lori is, um,
Speaker:when she, when she started out going to
Speaker:networking and speaking to people, she
Speaker:was a little shy about it, you know?
Speaker:And that kind of thing.
Speaker:But I'll tell you, she is, she is the
Speaker:most wonderful asset to the business and
Speaker:you know, I've learned that about her.
Speaker:I'd rather her go to a
Speaker:meeting and, and talk than me.
Speaker:And, and the people do too.
Speaker:The people appreciate
Speaker:it when she shows up.
Speaker:Instead of me.
Speaker:And so, uh, I, I, I, I, think I've
Speaker:learned that about her, you know, that
Speaker:she's not only just organized, but that
Speaker:she's, um, she's a great communicator.
Speaker:Um, in fact, there have been times
Speaker:I've been in conversations with people,
Speaker:I'm trying to tell them something
Speaker:and it's not coming across right.
Speaker:And then she'll, she'll
Speaker:get into the conversation.
Speaker:And she'll tell them what I'm
Speaker:trying to say and make it so clear.
Speaker:It's so easy.
Speaker:I'm like, what?
Speaker:John and Connie: See man-speak.
Speaker:There you go, Ron-speak.
Speaker:Well, it's, it's, I I think it's that
Speaker:I, I would hear that as that same kind
Speaker:of organizational skill that, you're
Speaker:more go with the flow and you know,
Speaker:you just kind of going along and,
Speaker:and Lori's, okay, let's package this
Speaker:up neatly and, okay, here it is.
Speaker:And.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: I just recently, I,
Speaker:I was trying to explain something
Speaker:to some friends of ours and I, and
Speaker:I felt this little foot under the
Speaker:table kick me and I let let her take
Speaker:over and she said it so perfectly
Speaker:what I was trying, I fixed it know.
Speaker:John and Connie: Oh,
Speaker:we got that in common.
Speaker:I'll get, I'll get running on something.
Speaker:Oh my gosh.
Speaker:And I, I've gotta make sure I include
Speaker:all the details and, and every once
Speaker:in a while, if it's something I'm
Speaker:really passionate about, you know,
Speaker:I, I get a little, uh, preachy and
Speaker:Connie will be tapping me or, you
Speaker:know, patting my knee or something.
Speaker:It's like, enough.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: There you.
Speaker:John and Connie: Oh.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: Afterwards.
Speaker:She said, why?
Speaker:Why were you saying I, I
Speaker:said, you, you, you know why?
Speaker:Because you cleared it all up perfectly.
Speaker:John and Connie: Lori, what about you?
Speaker:What have you learned about Ron?
Speaker:Ron and Lori: One, one thing that I
Speaker:have learned, and, and I learned it more
Speaker:with this than anything, but he has such
Speaker:a genuine, a genuine love for people.
Speaker:That to, when he goes to somebody's
Speaker:house, he doesn't just go to do the job.
Speaker:He wants to go, he wants to
Speaker:explain it in full detail.
Speaker:He wants them to understand
Speaker:because he cares about 'em.
Speaker:He genuinely cares about their
Speaker:wellbeing, their health, and, and
Speaker:I've never seen anybody like that.
Speaker:Most people, they get, you
Speaker:know, they go, it's a job.
Speaker:They get it done, they move on.
Speaker:This one here, I'll say, how did it go?
Speaker:Oh, good.
Speaker:What took so long?
Speaker:Well, you know, I was talking to him,
Speaker:I was explaining it and you know,
Speaker:they had some questions and I wanted
Speaker:to make sure they felt good about it.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And a lot of people just don't do that.
Speaker:And that's something
Speaker:I've learned about him.
Speaker:He just genuinely, he genuinely just
Speaker:loves people so much that he, he
Speaker:cares and wants to make sure that they
Speaker:fully understand what they're getting
Speaker:and why it's in their best interest.
Speaker:And that's, it's been in this, it's
Speaker:been in everything he's ever done.
Speaker:He always goes that extra to explain
Speaker:because he just cares so much about the
Speaker:people to make sure, you know, comes back.
Speaker:Um, I mean, I just, I, I can't tell
Speaker:you the things people just give me.
Speaker:It's amazing.
Speaker:He comes home with all sorts of stuff.
Speaker:I don't ever ask for anything.
Speaker:I can't, nothing.
Speaker:He gets all sorts of stuff.
Speaker:There was, there was one lady.
Speaker:You want that guitar?
Speaker:Go ahead, take it.
Speaker:That guitar, the amplifier, everything.
Speaker:And, and one's up.
Speaker:I mean, yeah.
Speaker:Thank really, thank you.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Um, just yesterday with her day before,
Speaker:day before, day before yesterday.
Speaker:This lady, I did, did her place and,
Speaker:and this mold remediation company said
Speaker:to her, she has to throw out all her
Speaker:clothes and all her shoes, and she had
Speaker:like 50 pairs of shoes and clothes.
Speaker:I said, I don't think so.
Speaker:I said, I don't.
Speaker:Let me call up a friend of mine who's a
Speaker:mold remediation person, and I did that.
Speaker:I was, and he said, send
Speaker:me a copy of the report.
Speaker:I sent him a copy.
Speaker:All this happened while I was there and
Speaker:he said, "no the levels are nowhere near
Speaker:high enough for anything on their report",
Speaker:but they're doing this now to people.
Speaker:Taking advantage and then directing them
Speaker:to their friends who have mold remediation
Speaker:companies and you know, the testing
Speaker:companies, one company and a mold remedi
Speaker:or something, and they're giving them
Speaker:all this business and all this stuff.
Speaker:And then telling this poor lady, I made
Speaker:thousands of dollars worth of stuff,
Speaker:she would've just thrown in the garbage.
Speaker:I said, no, no, no.
Speaker:She gave me a brand new pair of Adidas.
Speaker:And I said, I said, I. Wow.
Speaker:I said, who, who else lives here?
Speaker:She says, oh, they, uh, my, my
Speaker:boyfriend who was here, he has all
Speaker:these Adidas and all these special
Speaker:shoes and all this stuff like that.
Speaker:Uh, and he's not, he,
Speaker:he don't even want them.
Speaker:I said, well, what size are they?
Speaker:Size 13.
Speaker:That's my size, size 13.
Speaker:I was like, are kidding me?
Speaker:She.
Speaker:Hundred, 110 pair of Adidas Pro, you know?
Speaker:John and Connie: Well, I mean, that's
Speaker:an exchange of value right there.
Speaker:It's just a non-monetary exchange.
Speaker:Right, because you gave her,
Speaker:you saved her tons of money.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And she was, you know, grateful and, and.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: like that.
Speaker:Whole time I'll, all
Speaker:the time, all the time.
Speaker:It's amazing.
Speaker:I love it.
Speaker:I really do.
Speaker:And, and the, the tips
Speaker:I get are phenomenal.
Speaker:I don't, I don't a get all the.
Speaker:John and Connie: Well, that, I gotta
Speaker:say, I mean, the, the cost of the
Speaker:treatment is so low compared to mm-hmm.
Speaker:What, you know, some,
Speaker:some other solutions.
Speaker:Um, okay.
Speaker:But, but it works.
Speaker:Oh my gosh.
Speaker:And it works.
Speaker:It, it is just, I look forward to,
Speaker:I look forward to you coming and I
Speaker:mean, we don't necessarily need it
Speaker:every year, but it's kinda like, oh,
Speaker:have Ron Con, never
Speaker:gonna just bring him on.
Speaker:Well, we'll take care again
Speaker:because it smells so good.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I was thinking we need to go to every
Speaker:six months just to keep the smell going.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: I have
Speaker:customers that do that.
Speaker:She does have some do that.
Speaker:I have a lady in Clearwater,
Speaker:her name is Donna.
Speaker:She has every six months.
Speaker:I think she's like every five
Speaker:months because it creeps up a lot.
Speaker:Her name on the list.
Speaker:She does.
Speaker:John and Connie: That's cute.
Speaker:Cute, cute, cute.
Speaker:I don't even think you gave
Speaker:Mark a bottle of it or something
Speaker:Ron and Lori: Oh yeah.
Speaker:Around.
Speaker:John and Connie: the spritz.
Speaker:That is so funny.
Speaker:Well, he's got three dogs too, so.
Speaker:Whoa.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: Yeah.
Speaker:John and Connie: Yeah.
Speaker:There's that.
Speaker:There is that.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: Well I just love people.
Speaker:That's what it boils down to.
Speaker:John and Connie: That
Speaker:is a theme right there.
Speaker:The passion in action that I mentioned.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:You know, that just that kind
Speaker:of naturally came out of talking
Speaker:about one of our, our interviews.
Speaker:But I, I, as soon as I wrote that,
Speaker:I said, wow, that's, that's like
Speaker:throughout, that's so many people.
Speaker:And I, I interviewed a guy, uh,
Speaker:recently that he wasn't a fit for
Speaker:our podcast, but he's gonna be
Speaker:on our, just our YouTube channel.
Speaker:And he had worked.
Speaker:At HP and Apple and so forth.
Speaker:But he went back and did a study
Speaker:of these major corporations
Speaker:from a certain date anyway.
Speaker:And the ones that had clearly
Speaker:defined values, like they, they had
Speaker:written them down, they had a code
Speaker:of values that was throughout the
Speaker:company and they lived by them.
Speaker:Those companies lasted a
Speaker:long time, like HP had.
Speaker:Their sales.
Speaker:I think they had a 20% year over year
Speaker:increase in sales every year for 50 years.
Speaker:Wow.
Speaker:They and they had very clear it.
Speaker:That's been normal.
Speaker:They call it HP way.
Speaker:Apple was similar to that when they had
Speaker:clearly defined values, they did really
Speaker:well when they lost sight of their values
Speaker:for a while, they didn't do so well.
Speaker:And he said the companies that either
Speaker:didn't have values or or didn't
Speaker:follow 'em, they're no longer around.
Speaker:And I see that here and I see that in
Speaker:the businesses that are doing well and,
Speaker:and especially love what they're doing.
Speaker:They've got clear values like you guys
Speaker:do, and they love their customers.
Speaker:You know, it's about, it's about
Speaker:the customer experience and, and
Speaker:the money comes as a byproduct.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: That's right.
Speaker:John and Connie: And, and
Speaker:that's such a huge thing.
Speaker:And I, I just, you know, I wanna
Speaker:call that out because I, I hear it
Speaker:in what you're saying, even though
Speaker:you're not saying it specifically.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:And you know, the ones that don't
Speaker:care, like we've talked about,
Speaker:they're all they want is your money.
Speaker:And they do.
Speaker:They could care less
Speaker:about customer service.
Speaker:They could care less about
Speaker:ever really seeing you again.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: Right.
Speaker:That's right, that's right.
Speaker:I like, I like the ones that
Speaker:you see in the magazines.
Speaker:You know, they got the $179 specials,
Speaker:but some reason they have to come to
Speaker:your house to give you an estimate.
Speaker:And, uh, they generally walk out with $700
Speaker:to $1,300 is what the people have told me.
Speaker:You know, that
Speaker:John and Connie: Right.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: They've gotten estimates
Speaker:for anywhere from $700 to $1,300, uh, and
Speaker:they're going to use a whole different
Speaker:method That has been, uh, has been proven
Speaker:to do a lot more damage to the systems.
Speaker:Of course, we don't, in Florida,
Speaker:we don't have metal duct work.
Speaker:have flexible fiberglass duct work,
Speaker:and we have, uh, fiberglass, plenum
Speaker:and stuff like that and they're going
Speaker:with these heavy duty vacuum systems
Speaker:and, and brushes and whips and stuff,
Speaker:and you're just doing a lot of damage.
Speaker:Not to mention the biggest
Speaker:problem, uh, is they're not OSHA
Speaker:certified and they don't study mold.
Speaker:But when you get those things stirring
Speaker:up in there, you're stirring up
Speaker:millions, not just thousands, millions
Speaker:of mycotoxins that have gotta go.
Speaker:They gotta go someplace.
Speaker:They're hungry, they wanna eat,
Speaker:so they're gonna cling to your
Speaker:walls, your cabinets, and you know,
Speaker:all kinds
Speaker:John and Connie: Your lungs.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:John and Connie: Oh,
Speaker:Ron and Lori: You don't want.
Speaker:John and Connie: no, we, yeah, we
Speaker:were living in a rental property
Speaker:before we bought our house.
Speaker:And we discovered that there was
Speaker:mold in the duct work and they had to
Speaker:replace some of the duct work, and they
Speaker:brought in a cleaning company to do
Speaker:to, to do just that, and had the vacuum
Speaker:system and the filter and all that.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: Yeah.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:John and Connie: yeah,
Speaker:we, we lived through that.
Speaker:Yeah, we did.
Speaker:Fortunately we didn't experience any
Speaker:health problems from that, but we
Speaker:moved out pretty quick after that.
Speaker:We weren't, we weren't there
Speaker:long after that either.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: That's good.
Speaker:That's good one.
Speaker:One of the, one of the
Speaker:John and Connie: yeah.
Speaker:so I, um, you called your company Hudson
Speaker:Duct Cleaning, but it is truly sanitation.
Speaker:You're not you,
Speaker:Ron and Lori: yeah, that's
Speaker:John and Connie: different.
Speaker:You're not doing the
Speaker:rotating brushes or anything.
Speaker:You're not disturbing the, the Ducts.
Speaker:You're not touching the Ducts actually.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: No, what, you know, when
Speaker:we, we got into this, the SEO, you
Speaker:know, to, for a company, for a person to
Speaker:find us, we had to use that name right.
Speaker:Hudson duct Cleaning, Because
Speaker:when they put in the biggest
Speaker:search is air duct cleaning.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:That's, you know, so if we
Speaker:used sanitation, you wouldn't
Speaker:find us pretty much on that,
Speaker:uh, or stuff.
Speaker:John and Connie: I
Speaker:Ron and Lori: that's the reason why.
Speaker:John and Connie: Super duper
Speaker:Ron and Lori: Yeah.
Speaker:SEO, that's the reason why
Speaker:John and Connie: You gotta
Speaker:go with what works right?
Speaker:Ron and Lori: you gotta
Speaker:go with what works.
Speaker:John and Connie: And what and what
Speaker:gets your, your message out there.
Speaker:'cause that's the important part,
Speaker:is getting the message out there
Speaker:that if people use your product and your
Speaker:service, they're gonna be healthier.
Speaker:You can't help but be healthier.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: Healthier is right.
Speaker:That's right.
Speaker:We can't make any claims,
Speaker:John and Connie: Oh, no,
Speaker:no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: stuff.
Speaker:We know they're breathing
Speaker:better air in their home
Speaker:And so I always say to
Speaker:people you like drinking pure water
Speaker:or garbage water, you know, filled
Speaker:with chlorine and am and all stuff.
Speaker:Or do you have some kind of a
Speaker:filter system in your house or
Speaker:do you drink purified water?
Speaker:What do you do?
Speaker:You are always trying to improve your,
Speaker:your health by drinking better water.
Speaker:Well, what about the air you breathe?
Speaker:You wanna have the best air that you
Speaker:possibly can breathe in your home.
Speaker:John and Connie: Right.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: And one of the things that
Speaker:Lori says at every meeting is, according
Speaker:to WebMD, mold in your house is the
Speaker:biggest threat to your health bar none.
Speaker:There's nothing bigger than
Speaker:mold as a threat to your health.
Speaker:John and Connie: Yes.
Speaker:Powerful message.
Speaker:We've had some message.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:That powerful message, message, members
Speaker:message that have been affected by mold.
Speaker:Well, and, and the pets.
Speaker:Well, there was, yeah.
Speaker:I, yeah, I knew a, a guy.
Speaker:Um, I, I mean, I've met him, I, I
Speaker:know of him because of a friend of a
Speaker:friend, but he was struggling with, he
Speaker:was unable to sleep for nearly a year.
Speaker:Um, and, and he was, he had tried.
Speaker:He, he had, you know, he was,
Speaker:fortunately he had, uh, a fair
Speaker:amount of savings, so he was able
Speaker:to try a lot of different things.
Speaker:But he tried, uh, every
Speaker:medical treatment there was.
Speaker:He tried psychedelics.
Speaker:He got, you know, I mean, they, they
Speaker:couldn't figure out what was wrong
Speaker:and, but he, he just
Speaker:literally couldn't sleep.
Speaker:And, you know, sleep deprivation
Speaker:after a while starts to, you
Speaker:know, mirror insanity, right.
Speaker:It, it really messes with you.
Speaker:And, and his, that's, it
Speaker:was affecting his health.
Speaker:And so he, anyway, um, he
Speaker:found out ultimately that
Speaker:there was mold in his house.
Speaker:And, and so I mean, he moved
Speaker:outta the house and, and you
Speaker:know, the whole thing and,
Speaker:and got, got better.
Speaker:But that's, but, but a year of that.
Speaker:So what, what's the long term
Speaker:damage on something like that?
Speaker:We don't know because everybody's
Speaker:different, but, but he didn't exhibit
Speaker:the, you know, the, the, the classic most
Speaker:common classic symptoms are respiratory
Speaker:symptoms, but he didn't exhibit that,
Speaker:so they weren't looking for mold.
Speaker:And that's, um,
Speaker:Ron and Lori: funny?
Speaker:If you go to the OSHA site and you
Speaker:see what mold, all the different
Speaker:things that mold can do to your
Speaker:health, it, it is astounding.
Speaker:It is like they list about 30 different
Speaker:symptoms, you know, that mold will bring
Speaker:and the different sicknesses that'll
Speaker:bring to you, uh, including Alzheimer's.
Speaker:It pierces the brain barrier.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:Uh, it's able to pierce the bacteria,
Speaker:able to pierce the brain barrier.
Speaker:So, uh, so, so it actually can cause.
Speaker:Part of that insane thing.
Speaker:You start going insane.
Speaker:You can't sleep, you're breathing mold
Speaker:and all that kind of stuff like that.
Speaker:You start going crazy.
Speaker:Uh, we had one lady, I, I, I forget
Speaker:what her name is, but one lady, she
Speaker:um, she actually had to move out of
Speaker:the house and then she, 'cause she was
Speaker:going like crazy, like going insane.
Speaker:You know, and she got out of
Speaker:the house and her, her thinking
Speaker:started clearing up after a while.
Speaker:Uh, the guy Gordon that I mentioned
Speaker:who got me into our RGA, his son,
Speaker:him, they moved into a house and,
Speaker:and they didn't have me treat it.
Speaker:And I told them first, let me get in
Speaker:there and wound up his son, caught
Speaker:some kind of a infection, bacterial
Speaker:infection, and he died at 28.
Speaker:And then Gordon died about a
Speaker:month later and the rest of the
Speaker:family moved out of the house.
Speaker:They, you know, uh, and then the
Speaker:guy who got me into this company,
Speaker:his own son treated a sick, what
Speaker:they call a sick house, which is a
Speaker:mold infested, they call it a sick house.
Speaker:And he went to go treat this house.
Speaker:He got infected and he died.
Speaker:Uh, as a young boy, that, so you not.
Speaker:John and Connie: Wow.
Speaker:Just that, that one exposure
Speaker:in, in doing the work.
Speaker:Uh, he.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: Because the doctors, um,
Speaker:can't figure it out and stuff, you know,
Speaker:John and Connie: Uh,
Speaker:Ron and Lori: and they're, they're,
Speaker:they're just doing the, um, the
Speaker:medicines and the different things that
Speaker:they're used to prescribing and doing.
Speaker:The, which makes the immune system worse.
Speaker:Lowers, lowers the immune system.
Speaker:Then they go back into that environment
Speaker:again with a lower immune system.
Speaker:Done.
Speaker:John and Connie: your lunch.
Speaker:Wow.
Speaker:Literally.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Mm. Well, so take mold seriously
Speaker:and get your, your Ducts
Speaker:cleaned and sanitized.
Speaker:Get your duct sanitized, clean air.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And customer
Speaker:Ron and Lori: a.
Speaker:John and Connie: rules the day.
Speaker:There you go.
Speaker:Oh, there's that entrepreneur right there.
Speaker:Oh, there you go.
Speaker:There you go.
Speaker:There.
Speaker:Any, any last words of wisdom
Speaker:before we wrap up for Yeah.
Speaker:Or wait a minute, what's next?
Speaker:Oh, well, yeah, whats, what's next?
Speaker:What's next for Hudson Duct Duct
Speaker:cleaning, or what's next for you guys?
Speaker:What's next for you guys?
Speaker:Ron and Lori: Well, what We've
Speaker:been branching out more and
Speaker:more into the commercial, um,
Speaker:industry.
Speaker:We, we wound up, uh, landing the access
Speaker:medical community account and, uh,
Speaker:John and Connie: wow.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: A A BC solutions.
Speaker:Uh, we got them.
Speaker:And, uh, so, um, and
Speaker:we've been enjoying that.
Speaker:Yeah, because let's face it,
Speaker:you know, there's, it could
Speaker:be 10 units in one building.
Speaker:I don't,
Speaker:John and Connie: Absolutely.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: it's much better, but
Speaker:people are actually, what's great is
Speaker:the people are working there while
Speaker:I'm treating, they don't have to
Speaker:get out, they don't have to leave.
Speaker:John and Connie: Right.
Speaker:That's right.
Speaker:That's right.
Speaker:So you're not disrupting business.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:You don't have to work it
Speaker:till midnight to get it done,
Speaker:Ron and Lori: Exactly.
Speaker:Which I have though.
Speaker:But I mean, but I, but,
Speaker:but I don't have to.
Speaker:It could be done while it's there.
Speaker:And uh, and that's the good thing because
Speaker:it's pet friendly, it's child friendly.
Speaker:It's the
Speaker:only thing OSHA allows
Speaker:me to use without a mask.
Speaker:And so, uh, just, just,
Speaker:that's been a, a great thing.
Speaker:So.
Speaker:John and Connie: Well, I would think
Speaker:also in the commercial space, uh,
Speaker:you know, one of the concerns after
Speaker:the covid, you know, everybody was
Speaker:working from home and, and now you
Speaker:know, there's a return to the office.
Speaker:There's this kind of debate going
Speaker:on about safety, people are still
Speaker:concerned about safety in the office.
Speaker:And so I would think that this would
Speaker:add a, a level of comfort in having
Speaker:that cleaner air in the workplace.
Speaker:Ron and Lori: A tremendous
Speaker:amount of comfort to the
Speaker:people who are working there.
Speaker:We have one lady who, uh, came,
Speaker:came home from her office.
Speaker:You know, she worked three days
Speaker:a week at her house, and then
Speaker:when she go back to the office,
Speaker:her face broke out with all this.
Speaker:Like, uh, some kind of infection.
Speaker:Then another person in the office
Speaker:got the same thing, the whole face
Speaker:broke out and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker:So you gotta tell, you know, it's in
Speaker:the, the building, you know, there.
Speaker:So, yeah, so that kind of thing.
Speaker:So we treat places like that
Speaker:where they, where they got
Speaker:people who are getting sick.
Speaker:Now, if you go to, and you look up
Speaker:some of the cases that have been
Speaker:settled, Morgan and Morgan, one person
Speaker:was awarded $55 million from Morgan
Speaker:and Morgan.
Speaker:Of course, you know, they got a bulk of
Speaker:it, but um, that's how serious it is.
Speaker:One person went to work at a place, uh,
Speaker:and, uh, got sick and got with this doctor
Speaker:and they sued and they won and they won.
Speaker:It's not, it's not something I tell
Speaker:people with apartment complexes.
Speaker:You got apartment complexes,
Speaker:you're moving people in and
Speaker:out, in and out all the time.
Speaker:Get those, get those
Speaker:things treated, you know,
Speaker:uh, ALFs, we can do ALFs
Speaker:where people are in there.
Speaker:All the people, they don't
Speaker:have to worry about leaving the
Speaker:building or anything like that.
Speaker:We can do all
Speaker:of those things.
Speaker:John and Connie: That would, yeah,
Speaker:that would be I think a huge Yeah.
Speaker:Point for, like you said, both
Speaker:of those type of facilities.
Speaker:Huge.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:'cause we've had a lot of
Speaker:experience with both of us.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Oh my goodness.
Speaker:Cool.
Speaker:Are they.
Speaker:Oh yeah, so, so yeah.
Speaker:So now we know where you're going.
Speaker:So how people, how do you
Speaker:want people to find you?
Speaker:I know it's Hudson Duct
Speaker:cleaning.com is your
Speaker:Ron and Lori: Correct.
Speaker:John and Connie: Uh, is there
Speaker:any other way you would prefer?
Speaker:Would you like people to contact you
Speaker:through the website or otherwise?
Speaker:Ron and Lori: Through the website,
Speaker:but the best way is the phone number.
Speaker:So the phone number is (727) 755-8060.
Speaker:John and Connie: And so we will just
Speaker:leave a teaser here for our audience.
Speaker:Ron is also a keyboard player and singer.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:And plays in a band.
Speaker:So, um, we'll, we'll have to
Speaker:talk about music the next time.
Speaker:Thank you guys so much for
Speaker:spending this time with us.
Speaker:We've loved it.
Speaker:See you soon out there we
Speaker:will see you soon.