1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:03,544 Well, hello, everyone, and welcome to another episode of Romance 2 00:00:03,592 --> 00:00:06,248 at a Glance. I'm your host, Bridget, and today I have a very 3 00:00:06,304 --> 00:00:08,808 special co host, Trey. Hi, Trey. 4 00:00:08,904 --> 00:00:10,060 Hi, Bridget. 5 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:16,360 I am very excited to have Tre here. She has a great instagram @xo.treleigh 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:21,432 l e I G H on Instagram. And that is how I found her. And she 7 00:00:21,456 --> 00:00:25,416 was talking about Kimberly Lemming. And I was very excited because 8 00:00:25,488 --> 00:00:28,488 her latest book, I Got abducted by Aliens, and now I'm trapped 9 00:00:28,504 --> 00:00:31,560 in a rom com is coming out. And so I thought, who better to have 10 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,628 on than Trey to talk about it? Hi. 11 00:00:34,724 --> 00:00:38,644 Thank you so much for having me. I'm so happy you found me. I'm 12 00:00:38,692 --> 00:00:43,652 constantly screaming about monsters on all of my socials. I 13 00:00:43,676 --> 00:00:45,920 have been for about three years now. 14 00:00:46,620 --> 00:00:49,796 Yeah. I think there's something so delicious about monsters 15 00:00:49,828 --> 00:00:55,556 and aliens because they allow you to just dive into it with a completely 16 00:00:55,588 --> 00:00:57,322 open mind. You're like, they're not human. 17 00:00:57,476 --> 00:00:57,838 Right. 18 00:00:57,894 --> 00:00:59,822 So if they do something weird, you're like, they're not human. 19 00:00:59,926 --> 00:01:00,190 Right. 20 00:01:00,230 --> 00:01:00,862 Everything. 21 00:01:01,046 --> 00:01:04,254 Like, there's no rules. Like, airport rules. When you read a monster 22 00:01:04,302 --> 00:01:07,790 romance, like, anything goes and you just roll with the punches. 23 00:01:07,950 --> 00:01:11,982 Yeah. I was very excited about this book because I think, like, 24 00:01:12,006 --> 00:01:15,710 you, I had read some of her other books from the Mischief and 25 00:01:15,750 --> 00:01:16,910 Mead. Is that the series? 26 00:01:17,030 --> 00:01:18,702 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mead and Mischief. 27 00:01:18,766 --> 00:01:24,366 I think Mead and Mischief. And I liked her tone and, like, how funny 28 00:01:24,398 --> 00:01:29,382 her books are. And I was excited because I love aliens and 29 00:01:29,406 --> 00:01:32,198 I love rom coms. And so I was like, well, this is obviously gonna 30 00:01:32,214 --> 00:01:35,782 be a match made in heaven. And it was. Yeah. 31 00:01:35,846 --> 00:01:40,342 That's so interesting. I read a lot of monster romances and I usually 32 00:01:40,406 --> 00:01:44,950 don't lean towards aliens. I started with Meet and Mishaps from 33 00:01:44,990 --> 00:01:50,118 Kimberly Lemming that time I got drunk and saved a demon. And 34 00:01:50,174 --> 00:01:53,350 I absolutely fell in love with it. Like, you said, the tone. She 35 00:01:53,390 --> 00:01:57,724 is so funny. Like, and she's funny in a way that, like, doesn't 36 00:01:57,772 --> 00:02:01,356 take you out of the book, but more so, like, you just, like, stare 37 00:02:01,388 --> 00:02:04,200 into the camera like you're on the office. Like, I can't believe 38 00:02:04,900 --> 00:02:06,680 this is what she just said. 39 00:02:07,460 --> 00:02:12,092 Yeah, Her I really liked. And not to, like, get too far into the 40 00:02:12,116 --> 00:02:14,556 book, you guys. Obviously, if you're listening to this podcast, 41 00:02:14,588 --> 00:02:17,324 you know that we are going to spoil the entire book. So if you 42 00:02:17,332 --> 00:02:19,260 haven't read it yet and you don't want it to be spoiled, turn 43 00:02:19,300 --> 00:02:24,920 back now, push pause, come back later. I like so much about 44 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,632 the fact that this book is in just one character's point of view. 45 00:02:28,736 --> 00:02:33,368 So many books now are in dual. And I thought for this type of story 46 00:02:33,504 --> 00:02:37,384 where she's, like, getting abducted, discovering a new planet, 47 00:02:37,512 --> 00:02:41,272 and trying to figure out these aliens, trying to figure out how 48 00:02:41,296 --> 00:02:44,152 to communicate with them. There's a talking lion, there's talking 49 00:02:44,216 --> 00:02:48,806 alien, bird. I think having it all from her point of view, for me 50 00:02:48,878 --> 00:02:52,342 was the perfect choice because I think if it had dipped into one 51 00:02:52,366 --> 00:02:56,614 of the other characters points of view, then I would have understood 52 00:02:56,662 --> 00:02:59,094 things from, like, I would have just understood things. It would 53 00:02:59,102 --> 00:03:02,086 have been in their mind. And then I would have been like, well, 54 00:03:02,158 --> 00:03:04,370 now she doesn't get to discover it with me. 55 00:03:04,670 --> 00:03:08,690 Yeah, it definitely felt like I was discovering everything with 56 00:03:09,070 --> 00:03:16,342 Dory when I was reading the book. I do enjoy dual POVs because 57 00:03:16,366 --> 00:03:19,046 I just want to be in the head of everybody else and know what they're 58 00:03:19,078 --> 00:03:24,466 thinking. But I did enjoy, like, her learning about everything. 59 00:03:24,618 --> 00:03:27,666 Like, she's taking me through the story with her. Like, we're all 60 00:03:27,738 --> 00:03:29,794 discovering everything at the same time. 61 00:03:29,962 --> 00:03:34,066 Yeah. Well, let's dip into the review and let's get it popping. 62 00:03:34,098 --> 00:03:35,010 You ready to go? 63 00:03:35,130 --> 00:03:35,910 Ready. 64 00:03:36,810 --> 00:03:40,850 Romance at a glance. Romance at a glance. What you say now? 65 00:03:40,890 --> 00:03:42,082 Romance at a glance. 66 00:03:42,146 --> 00:03:47,754 Go ahead, girl. All right, you guys. Like I said, we're reading 67 00:03:47,802 --> 00:03:51,226 I Got Abducted by Aliens and Now I'm Trapped in a rom com by Kimberly 68 00:03:51,258 --> 00:03:56,202 Lemming. This is, according to the interwebs, book number one of 69 00:03:56,226 --> 00:04:00,714 a new series from her called Cosmic Mishaps. And that was one 70 00:04:00,722 --> 00:04:03,162 of the questions when I was reading the or cosmic chaos, rather 71 00:04:03,226 --> 00:04:06,602 apologies, was I wonder if she's going to follow some of the 72 00:04:06,626 --> 00:04:09,594 other characters because the world was so interesting. And so 73 00:04:09,602 --> 00:04:12,792 I think based on the fact that it is book one, we are going to get 74 00:04:12,816 --> 00:04:18,408 to see other characters. I will read you a quick synopsis for 75 00:04:18,464 --> 00:04:22,600 all of you who haven't quite read it yet. Since it is just out 76 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,272 and it is hysterical. I'll read you the short one because it 77 00:04:25,296 --> 00:04:29,512 is kind of a long one. So basically it is about a woman who 78 00:04:29,536 --> 00:04:33,560 gets dropped onto a strange planet to fall for not one, but two 79 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:39,062 aliens. And Dory is getting her PhD in wildlife biology. She 80 00:04:39,086 --> 00:04:42,374 gets attacked by a lion. Aliens save her. They're like bird 81 00:04:42,422 --> 00:04:45,926 aliens. They save her, heal her, and then they drop her onto 82 00:04:45,958 --> 00:04:49,910 a planet because they figured out that human women can breed with 83 00:04:49,950 --> 00:04:53,366 this other species of alien that they accidentally almost wiped 84 00:04:53,398 --> 00:04:57,366 out completely. And they feel bad, so they're trying to repopulate 85 00:04:57,398 --> 00:05:01,846 this other alien race with stolen human women, but they're altruistic 86 00:05:01,878 --> 00:05:05,494 Only the women who are about to die. So it's not just any woman. 87 00:05:05,582 --> 00:05:10,682 Only on death's door are women. And through a series of, you 88 00:05:10,706 --> 00:05:15,226 know, hilarious events, she accidentally gives a lion that tried 89 00:05:15,258 --> 00:05:19,770 to kill her the ability to speak to her. And they set off into 90 00:05:19,810 --> 00:05:24,310 this new land where dinosaurs are roaming and aliens are all around. 91 00:05:26,530 --> 00:05:31,946 I think I liked a lot of the characters. I thought Dory was wonderful. 92 00:05:32,058 --> 00:05:36,218 But I think Toto the lion, oh my. Be the gosh. 93 00:05:36,314 --> 00:05:42,612 Yes. Toto, just like, he embodies like the type of personality 94 00:05:42,676 --> 00:05:46,932 I wish to have in that kind of insane situation where he's like, 95 00:05:46,956 --> 00:05:49,540 well, we're just here now and like, what are you going to do? Like, 96 00:05:49,580 --> 00:05:53,668 I have to eat and I have to be comfortable and I don't know. He 97 00:05:53,724 --> 00:05:59,940 is just so funny. He's just so funny. Keeping Dory in check. Like, 98 00:06:00,060 --> 00:06:01,556 girl, we're here. 99 00:06:01,708 --> 00:06:05,348 Yeah. Hey, look at this other saber toothed tiger I found. I'm 100 00:06:05,364 --> 00:06:08,852 going to go make myself a lady pride. Yes. I'm going to kill her 101 00:06:08,876 --> 00:06:13,984 some stuff and feed her. Going good. She's like. He's like, you 102 00:06:13,992 --> 00:06:18,688 have a mate. You smell horny. Okay. We all smell it. Okay. Don't 103 00:06:18,704 --> 00:06:23,024 try to kid yourself. Go over there and I will leave the room for 104 00:06:23,112 --> 00:06:23,456 sure. 105 00:06:23,528 --> 00:06:27,616 He's just like the perfect like wingman, wing, lion. Totally 106 00:06:27,648 --> 00:06:28,720 down for anything. 107 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,048 And unbothered. 108 00:06:30,144 --> 00:06:31,312 And unbothered. 109 00:06:31,456 --> 00:06:33,424 I'm the king of the pride lands. I'm the predator. 110 00:06:33,472 --> 00:06:37,536 Like, I'm the best. Like, regardless of what anything happens 111 00:06:37,568 --> 00:06:40,448 here, you have to know that I am the top of the food chain. I'm 112 00:06:40,464 --> 00:06:41,134 the best. 113 00:06:41,312 --> 00:06:44,914 Yeah. I thought this was interesting. So many of the alien 114 00:06:44,962 --> 00:06:48,562 romances that I have read, human women obviously end up on these 115 00:06:48,586 --> 00:06:52,690 alien planets. But usually the aliens that they end up on their 116 00:06:52,730 --> 00:06:56,930 planet, it's their planet. So they know what's going on in the 117 00:06:56,970 --> 00:07:01,586 planet. Typically they're not the only women, although sometimes 118 00:07:01,618 --> 00:07:06,898 they are, but usually they understand the local fauna all makes 119 00:07:06,954 --> 00:07:11,510 sense. Like the world as it is obviously is not Earth, but it makes 120 00:07:11,550 --> 00:07:15,478 sense as its own little ecosystem. I thought that this take 121 00:07:15,534 --> 00:07:19,734 of having this be like a completely newly terraformed world 122 00:07:19,902 --> 00:07:24,086 and them doing like the most minimal. Like this is like a D minus 123 00:07:24,118 --> 00:07:28,358 project. Like they put so little effort and they're like, oh, 124 00:07:28,374 --> 00:07:31,974 we went to this like two museums which all specialize in dinosaurs 125 00:07:32,022 --> 00:07:36,470 and we just like snagged some samples and we just like chaos gardened 126 00:07:36,550 --> 00:07:42,270 around this place and just created all these species. Nbd. 127 00:07:42,430 --> 00:07:45,646 Yeah. It was like, this is what Humans, like, look at these 128 00:07:45,718 --> 00:07:49,790 billboards that don't make any sense that are written by AI and 129 00:07:49,830 --> 00:07:52,622 they, like, the car that. 130 00:07:52,646 --> 00:07:55,170 Has nothing in it is just in the middle of the jungle. 131 00:07:55,910 --> 00:07:57,214 Nothing makes sense. 132 00:07:57,342 --> 00:08:00,766 The little cul de sac. They're like humans, like, cul de sacs. There's, 133 00:08:00,798 --> 00:08:04,030 like, a little cul de sac of houses in the middle of the jungle. 134 00:08:04,190 --> 00:08:06,270 Because that would make humans feel good. 135 00:08:06,390 --> 00:08:10,234 Right. And one of them is basically like, the Mojo Dojo Cosset 136 00:08:10,282 --> 00:08:10,870 house. 137 00:08:12,930 --> 00:08:17,434 And they all have only one bed because the manual that they read 138 00:08:17,602 --> 00:08:22,394 for creating this whole civilization was a how to write romance 139 00:08:22,442 --> 00:08:25,150 novels. And so only one bed was the trope. 140 00:08:25,490 --> 00:08:32,426 Yes. I just loved all of it. I did really enjoy back to talking 141 00:08:32,458 --> 00:08:35,818 about how, like, we were discovering everything with Dory. 142 00:08:35,914 --> 00:08:40,410 It was also nice that, you know, like, Sol and Locke were like. 143 00:08:40,450 --> 00:08:44,930 Or Loki were, like, dropped into this. Into this planet as well 144 00:08:45,310 --> 00:08:48,310 as you said. Like, usually it's like the aliens and they know 145 00:08:48,350 --> 00:08:51,142 everything and women are dropped there. But it was nice, like, 146 00:08:51,166 --> 00:08:53,622 seeing them discover the planet, too. 147 00:08:53,726 --> 00:08:54,326 Right? 148 00:08:54,478 --> 00:08:56,470 Like, that was so interesting to me. 149 00:08:56,590 --> 00:08:59,270 Yeah. And then being like, wait, you know about these creatures? 150 00:08:59,350 --> 00:09:02,982 Like, right? And she's like, well, I mean, I guess they're dinosaurs. 151 00:09:03,046 --> 00:09:03,894 Like, yeah. 152 00:09:03,942 --> 00:09:04,774 This frog. 153 00:09:04,902 --> 00:09:10,710 They shouldn't all be here. Oh, my God. When Saul keeps shouting, 154 00:09:10,790 --> 00:09:13,794 you know, saying like, oh, she's just shouting at plants again. 155 00:09:13,962 --> 00:09:18,114 And Lock or lo. Or whatever his name is. Like, oh, it's. Oh, 156 00:09:18,162 --> 00:09:20,882 wait, what? What is she doing? And he's like, this is a thing she 157 00:09:20,906 --> 00:09:24,306 does. She shouts at plants. Like, you'll get used to it. Because 158 00:09:24,458 --> 00:09:29,170 everywhere they go, she's just like. As a wildlife PhD biologist, 159 00:09:29,250 --> 00:09:32,290 she's like, you shouldn't exist. What are you here for? How 160 00:09:32,330 --> 00:09:35,218 did this all happen? And she's, like, trying to figure out. 161 00:09:35,354 --> 00:09:39,398 And I. I know I'm skipping to the end, but I love that the resolution 162 00:09:39,554 --> 00:09:43,982 in, like, the warring tribes of these other aliens is her knowledge 163 00:09:44,046 --> 00:09:48,446 as a PhD student. Yes, absolutely. I was thrilled, because 164 00:09:48,518 --> 00:09:53,598 sometimes I feel like authors forget to close the loop on. Like, 165 00:09:53,654 --> 00:09:56,622 if you say someone's, like, super intelligent, then they're super. 166 00:09:56,646 --> 00:09:59,854 Intelligence should be the superpower of the thing. And all 167 00:09:59,862 --> 00:10:02,446 of a sudden, that super intelligent person, like, learns 168 00:10:02,478 --> 00:10:05,454 to throw daggers, and that's what helps. And you're like, well, 169 00:10:05,542 --> 00:10:09,838 that's cool. But also, they're smart. And so I liked that her knowing 170 00:10:09,854 --> 00:10:12,762 about wildlife biology was the reason that she, like, saved the 171 00:10:12,786 --> 00:10:13,066 day. 172 00:10:13,138 --> 00:10:16,070 I know. Me too. And she was like, just move. 173 00:10:16,370 --> 00:10:19,882 Yeah, you're in a migration Path. You're embarrassing yourself. 174 00:10:19,946 --> 00:10:23,050 You've been here 10 years. This happens every year at the same 175 00:10:23,090 --> 00:10:25,482 time. You didn't think to just, like, move. 176 00:10:25,666 --> 00:10:28,282 And like, you didn't think to ask this other tribe because. Did 177 00:10:28,306 --> 00:10:30,826 you ask them? Because they're not having problems at all. They're 178 00:10:30,858 --> 00:10:33,642 fine. At all. They're just. They're just fine. And they think 179 00:10:33,666 --> 00:10:36,650 you guys are nuts because you guys are always trying to kill people. 180 00:10:36,690 --> 00:10:39,252 And they're like, we don't want to go by them. They're crazy. 181 00:10:39,316 --> 00:10:41,800 Killing people and rebuilding your fence. 182 00:10:42,300 --> 00:10:45,012 Yeah, always rebuilding the fence. Although, to be fair, I feel 183 00:10:45,036 --> 00:10:50,436 like if it was like an entire tribe of warring dudes, not a single 184 00:10:50,468 --> 00:10:57,268 lady. Checks out. Checks out. That checks out. I feel like it's 185 00:10:57,284 --> 00:11:00,916 pretty accurate. Totally. Okay, I want to talk about the aliens 186 00:11:01,108 --> 00:11:04,746 who captured her and are doing this experiment. The bird aliens. 187 00:11:04,828 --> 00:11:05,810 Oh, my gosh. 188 00:11:06,470 --> 00:11:12,650 I don't know that I have read another book where the aliens are 189 00:11:13,510 --> 00:11:19,886 not humanoid who are like, the ones in charge in a row. I mean, 190 00:11:19,958 --> 00:11:23,358 I'm sure I have at some point, but, like, none that I come to mind 191 00:11:23,414 --> 00:11:26,910 right away. Where, like, the ones who are sort of manipulating 192 00:11:26,990 --> 00:11:31,358 everyone aren't humanoid in some way or the reason that the aliens 193 00:11:31,374 --> 00:11:34,710 got kidnapped is because they are humanoid in some way and want 194 00:11:34,750 --> 00:11:38,038 those human women too. Like, they're not interested in the human 195 00:11:38,094 --> 00:11:38,646 women. 196 00:11:38,798 --> 00:11:39,494 No. 197 00:11:39,662 --> 00:11:42,710 They're just like, trying to not get sued by a corporation. 198 00:11:42,790 --> 00:11:47,062 Exactly. Which is so funny, the copyright infringement conversation. 199 00:11:47,126 --> 00:11:50,998 But yeah, they're trying not to get sued by a corporation. I think. 200 00:11:51,134 --> 00:11:56,678 I think Ice planet barbarians, when they're captured, the aliens 201 00:11:56,694 --> 00:12:00,130 that capture them aren't humanoid at all. I don't think so. 202 00:12:01,090 --> 00:12:04,266 Yeah, the first aliens, and then when they get to the ice planet, 203 00:12:04,298 --> 00:12:06,890 those are mostly humanoid. That's the only thing that I could. 204 00:12:06,930 --> 00:12:10,202 Think of that could be true. I mean, I have heard that book, but 205 00:12:10,226 --> 00:12:11,082 it's been a while since I. 206 00:12:11,106 --> 00:12:15,994 Read book one, so I'm like, maybe years, but maybe. Yeah, I thought 207 00:12:16,002 --> 00:12:18,282 it was really interesting. I thought it was also interesting that 208 00:12:18,306 --> 00:12:26,154 they were like, bird. Like. I don't know, I kind of expected. I 209 00:12:26,162 --> 00:12:32,310 don't know, I kind of expected to be, like, really thrown into, 210 00:12:32,350 --> 00:12:36,038 like, alien territory while reading this book. So the fact that, 211 00:12:36,094 --> 00:12:40,422 like, you know, Dory and like, I as a human could recognize, like, 212 00:12:40,446 --> 00:12:44,486 different dinosaurs and monsters. Not. Well, not monsters, 213 00:12:44,518 --> 00:12:50,182 but animals and stuff like that. I. I liked that, I think, because 214 00:12:50,206 --> 00:12:54,560 it kept me kind of like in the story being able to recognize these 215 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,488 things. As I said before, I'm not huge into aliens. So I don't 216 00:12:57,504 --> 00:13:00,580 know if that's like a typical. 217 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,320 It's definitely not typical. And I think one of the best things 218 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:09,808 about it is that even though we were having to like, learn about 219 00:13:09,864 --> 00:13:12,976 a new culture and learn about the bird culture and what they're 220 00:13:13,008 --> 00:13:16,624 doing, learn about the other alien culture and learn about what 221 00:13:16,632 --> 00:13:21,856 they're doing, I think it was helpful to not have to also learn 222 00:13:21,888 --> 00:13:25,200 about everything else. Because sometimes, you know, when you make 223 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:29,344 any first book, whether it's fantasy, science fiction, alien romance, 224 00:13:29,392 --> 00:13:32,112 whatever, if you're establishing a whole new world, you 225 00:13:32,136 --> 00:13:35,632 have to do a lot of world building and explaining. Like, is 226 00:13:35,656 --> 00:13:38,816 it a desert planet? Is it a water planet? Is it whatever planet? 227 00:13:38,848 --> 00:13:44,256 And the fact that like her job brain was always like, oh my God, 228 00:13:44,288 --> 00:13:47,904 what is this bullfrog so big for? Like, but we. I already know 229 00:13:47,912 --> 00:13:50,128 what a bullfrog is, so immediately I'm like, oh, my God, 230 00:13:50,144 --> 00:13:53,004 that would be crazy. If you saw a bullfrog that was as you. That 231 00:13:53,012 --> 00:13:53,996 would be insane. 232 00:13:54,108 --> 00:13:54,588 Yeah. 233 00:13:54,684 --> 00:13:57,196 One that can't move because it's not strong enough and its tongue 234 00:13:57,228 --> 00:14:02,092 isn't strong enough to get you your little legs. Like, and I. And 235 00:14:02,116 --> 00:14:04,684 like. Or like the T. Rex coming and it's pink and she's like, 236 00:14:04,692 --> 00:14:07,532 we were wrong all along. They're pink. Like all of that I 237 00:14:07,556 --> 00:14:11,436 feel like, helped so that. Because like, imagine that if you're 238 00:14:11,468 --> 00:14:14,828 on a planet and they're like, oh, the tuma little rock is a big 239 00:14:14,884 --> 00:14:17,900 pink dinosaur. Like, you know, I mean, like, they'd have to really 240 00:14:17,940 --> 00:14:22,124 explain that. True, very true. This book is fast, very fast paced. 241 00:14:22,172 --> 00:14:22,444 Yeah. 242 00:14:22,492 --> 00:14:22,748 Yeah. 243 00:14:22,764 --> 00:14:25,220 And I think it would bog it down too much. Much. 244 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:26,392 Yeah, that does make sense. 245 00:14:26,416 --> 00:14:27,192 For me at least. 246 00:14:27,296 --> 00:14:30,968 No, I think that makes sense. Yeah, I do. Like, like the bird like 247 00:14:31,024 --> 00:14:34,712 aliens. I think I imagine them in like little trench coats with 248 00:14:34,736 --> 00:14:37,720 like their iPads, like, just like collecting data. 249 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:42,264 They're like how their little feathers were like connected to like 250 00:14:42,352 --> 00:14:45,112 the digital world so they could pull up like little iPads and 251 00:14:45,136 --> 00:14:46,872 stuff. I was like, that's cool. 252 00:14:47,016 --> 00:14:48,632 Yeah, that was super cool. 253 00:14:48,776 --> 00:14:49,896 Aliens are cool. 254 00:14:50,008 --> 00:14:50,968 Yeah. Yeah. 255 00:14:51,064 --> 00:14:56,194 Also, I liked that the one who was like observing them was an intern. 256 00:14:56,362 --> 00:14:57,122 I know. 257 00:14:57,226 --> 00:15:01,442 Because how perfect is that? That this company, genocided in an 258 00:15:01,466 --> 00:15:05,762 entire alien world, stole all these human women, completely modified 259 00:15:05,826 --> 00:15:09,042 them so they could breed with these other aliens. And then they 260 00:15:09,066 --> 00:15:12,674 don't even send a manager level person. They just interned 261 00:15:12,722 --> 00:15:13,122 over. 262 00:15:13,226 --> 00:15:16,110 They're just like, you can do this. Just report back what you see. 263 00:15:16,570 --> 00:15:20,946 He's like freaking out. Like, you guys have got to fall in love. 264 00:15:21,098 --> 00:15:25,230 Look at this Tamagotchi. It's not. Let's get it. Someone is going 265 00:15:25,270 --> 00:15:26,190 to fire me. 266 00:15:26,310 --> 00:15:30,542 Oh yeah. The Tamagotchi thing was so weird. Like, what did you 267 00:15:30,566 --> 00:15:33,214 think about that? I never had one as a kid. 268 00:15:33,342 --> 00:15:34,010 Really? 269 00:15:34,470 --> 00:15:38,622 No, I mean, like, I feel like other people did. I would like saw 270 00:15:38,646 --> 00:15:41,294 them and I was like, I don't want to do that. That seems like 271 00:15:41,302 --> 00:15:43,822 something I don't want to do. But everyone is like obsessed with 272 00:15:43,846 --> 00:15:44,174 them. 273 00:15:44,262 --> 00:15:47,854 Yes. They're so cute. I had one as a kid for sure. I would definitely 274 00:15:47,902 --> 00:15:49,150 buy one today if I saw it. 275 00:15:49,190 --> 00:15:49,810 Probably. 276 00:15:50,230 --> 00:15:52,894 That's how much I love them. And I loved it being incorporated 277 00:15:52,942 --> 00:15:56,702 in the story to have like a digital little soul, like dancing 278 00:15:56,766 --> 00:15:59,870 whenever his little love meter went up. I thought it was nice. 279 00:16:00,030 --> 00:16:00,766 I did too. 280 00:16:00,838 --> 00:16:05,150 Yeah, I thought it was nice because like for the majority. Well, 281 00:16:05,190 --> 00:16:07,742 yeah, like for the majority of the book, Dory was like, I'm just 282 00:16:07,766 --> 00:16:10,350 gonna like do this thing and then I'm gonna go home. Like I'm 283 00:16:10,350 --> 00:16:13,150 gonna go home and go home. And I felt like, you know, she was like 284 00:16:13,190 --> 00:16:18,830 holding back a lot from like being into them or you know, even 285 00:16:18,870 --> 00:16:22,318 soul. Just saying like, well, it's. You can't, you know, bottle 286 00:16:22,414 --> 00:16:26,370 like mysticism and like, you know, ancient practice, like whatever, 287 00:16:26,690 --> 00:16:29,786 it'll wear off. And so I felt like the Tamagotchi was really nice 288 00:16:29,818 --> 00:16:33,162 because it was like, well, you can't lie. Either you like them or 289 00:16:33,186 --> 00:16:35,706 you don't. So I liked it. 290 00:16:35,858 --> 00:16:39,994 I did. I thought it was funny because it a like, like you said, 291 00:16:40,162 --> 00:16:44,666 allowed us to track what she was feeling even if she was denying 292 00:16:44,698 --> 00:16:47,674 it. It's like, well, it's going up so you're lying. I liked 293 00:16:47,722 --> 00:16:52,922 that. It put the two guys were like, ahaha, my score is higher than 294 00:16:52,946 --> 00:16:56,706 yours. Haha. My score is higher than yours though. And also 295 00:16:56,778 --> 00:17:00,642 I thought it was funny that it related to the way that the alien 296 00:17:00,706 --> 00:17:05,650 bird was trying to get them to fall in love. And she is like trying 297 00:17:05,690 --> 00:17:08,242 to get this bird off her back and she's like, you can't just have 298 00:17:08,266 --> 00:17:10,690 one bed and expect people to fall in love. You know anything about 299 00:17:10,730 --> 00:17:11,538 like humans? 300 00:17:11,634 --> 00:17:11,906 Yeah. 301 00:17:11,938 --> 00:17:13,714 And he's like, well, what should I know? And she's like just 302 00:17:13,722 --> 00:17:16,034 throwing out random stuff to try to get him away from. Well, we 303 00:17:16,042 --> 00:17:18,338 have to be away from each other and pine because she just wants 304 00:17:18,354 --> 00:17:21,442 her own bed for the night. But little does she know he's going to 305 00:17:21,466 --> 00:17:25,954 like set up a series of events so that they get separated and kidnapped 306 00:17:26,002 --> 00:17:28,989 so that she can pine for them. And he's like, you were right. It 307 00:17:29,029 --> 00:17:33,021 worked. Look, the love meeting is going up. And she's like, did 308 00:17:33,045 --> 00:17:36,089 you do all this? Is this your fault? That might kill you. 309 00:17:37,749 --> 00:17:39,501 Yeah, that was perfect. 310 00:17:39,645 --> 00:17:46,253 Yeah, he's. And, like, I also think them not just doing any real 311 00:17:46,341 --> 00:17:50,749 investigation into human culture at all and her, like, having 312 00:17:50,789 --> 00:17:53,917 her birth control pill. Because a lot of times when you read 313 00:17:53,973 --> 00:17:56,845 romances like this, you're like, ruh, roh, we're gonna get pregnant 314 00:17:56,877 --> 00:18:00,298 right away. Because not that I disapprove of pregnancy, I have children. 315 00:18:00,354 --> 00:18:06,442 But, like, in a book, I want it to be on purpose, usually. And 316 00:18:06,626 --> 00:18:10,234 I'm like, ooh, alien planet, a lot of alien sperm. That usually 317 00:18:10,282 --> 00:18:15,162 is a recipe for babies, right? And this time she, like, still had 318 00:18:15,186 --> 00:18:17,834 her implant because they didn't know about birth control implants 319 00:18:17,882 --> 00:18:20,506 because they didn't do any research. And then when she tells 320 00:18:20,538 --> 00:18:23,578 them, oh, we need chocolate and coffee or we can't have babies, 321 00:18:23,674 --> 00:18:26,842 right? She's just like, listing stuff she wants. I need coffee, 322 00:18:26,986 --> 00:18:27,482 right? 323 00:18:27,586 --> 00:18:31,226 I need chocolate. Like, there's more to this. No, I loved 324 00:18:31,258 --> 00:18:33,190 that. I did love that. 325 00:18:34,050 --> 00:18:38,442 I want to know what your thoughts are about spice level in 326 00:18:38,466 --> 00:18:42,170 books in general. Obviously, you read monster romance, so, like, 327 00:18:42,210 --> 00:18:46,250 those books are usually very spicy. But when you pick up a book 328 00:18:46,290 --> 00:18:48,586 that has, like, this has, like, a little sort of illustrated, 329 00:18:48,618 --> 00:18:51,354 animated cover, if you've read her books before, you know it's going 330 00:18:51,362 --> 00:18:54,474 to be spicy. But if you didn't, you picked this up, what 331 00:18:54,482 --> 00:18:58,636 are your thoughts about just picking up a random book and dipping 332 00:18:58,668 --> 00:19:00,600 into it, not knowing what's going to happen? 333 00:19:02,900 --> 00:19:06,252 I mean, I'm open for anything. So, like, I love monster romance, 334 00:19:06,316 --> 00:19:09,964 but I read dark romance, contemporary romance. Like, I'm a 335 00:19:09,972 --> 00:19:17,452 romance girly, I think, picking up. I mean, since I'm into 336 00:19:17,556 --> 00:19:22,732 so many different things, typically, I have to say that, like, 337 00:19:22,836 --> 00:19:28,316 okay, I don't typically just, like, pick up a book in a bookstore, 338 00:19:28,508 --> 00:19:33,084 right? Like, I have, you know, my bookstagram and my book talk and 339 00:19:33,092 --> 00:19:36,844 stuff like that. So books are constantly being fed to me. So typically, 340 00:19:36,892 --> 00:19:41,532 like, I'll see a cover and it'll be a blurb, and I'll pick it 341 00:19:41,556 --> 00:19:45,820 up. When it comes to spice level, I don't really look at that. 342 00:19:45,860 --> 00:19:48,908 Like, I don't typically care because I do read monster romance, 343 00:19:48,924 --> 00:19:54,782 which we know is pretty spicy. So I don't gauge what books I pick 344 00:19:54,806 --> 00:19:58,014 up by the spice level. It could be, you know, closed door, 345 00:19:58,062 --> 00:20:01,870 it could be open door, it could be you know, erotic. It could, 346 00:20:01,910 --> 00:20:07,742 you know, so things like that. I don't really, like, gauge my reading 347 00:20:07,806 --> 00:20:09,530 by a typical spice level. 348 00:20:10,070 --> 00:20:15,006 Yeah, that's a good answer. I don't either. I mean, we do read. 349 00:20:15,158 --> 00:20:17,422 Obviously, in romance, you read some open door and some non 350 00:20:17,446 --> 00:20:21,742 open door. I personally, if it's gonna be open door and you have 351 00:20:21,766 --> 00:20:25,342 aliens or monsters, I want that to be involved. That's like 352 00:20:25,366 --> 00:20:30,494 my biggest criteria. I don't want you to have human sex. Yeah, 353 00:20:30,542 --> 00:20:33,582 basic missionary human sex with an alien or a monster. 354 00:20:33,646 --> 00:20:34,222 Absolutely. 355 00:20:34,286 --> 00:20:37,806 If you have horns. If you have horns, someone better be grabbing 356 00:20:37,838 --> 00:20:39,454 onto the horns to hold on. 357 00:20:39,542 --> 00:20:39,950 Yeah. 358 00:20:40,030 --> 00:20:43,310 It would be someone. If there's a tail involved. Let's give 359 00:20:43,350 --> 00:20:44,236 the tail a purpose. 360 00:20:44,358 --> 00:20:44,704 Yeah. 361 00:20:44,752 --> 00:20:46,784 And in this case, the tail had a great purpose. 362 00:20:46,912 --> 00:20:50,352 Such a great purpose. But even, like, if there's horns, like, 363 00:20:50,376 --> 00:20:53,744 I need that to be, like, a zone for you. You know what I mean? 364 00:20:53,832 --> 00:20:55,568 I needed to activate something. 365 00:20:55,704 --> 00:20:56,500 Yeah. 366 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:00,848 Which is so funny because I have this reel that's just taking 367 00:21:00,904 --> 00:21:02,400 off on Instagram right now. 368 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:03,020 About. 369 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:08,016 It was a silly audio that was like, when I get 30% into a monster 370 00:21:08,048 --> 00:21:11,920 romance, the monster doesn't have a weird peen. And I'm super 371 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,532 upset about it. And there's so many people in my comments that are 372 00:21:15,556 --> 00:21:20,236 like, yes, why is it human? Like, why are we doing this? Like, 373 00:21:20,388 --> 00:21:24,796 we're here for the strange, we're here for the weird. I wouldn't 374 00:21:24,828 --> 00:21:28,060 pick up a monster romance if I wasn't down to clown with the weird. 375 00:21:28,220 --> 00:21:28,956 Exactly. 376 00:21:29,068 --> 00:21:29,644 Yeah. 377 00:21:29,772 --> 00:21:35,420 100%. Like, I want the sperm better be magical or the penis better 378 00:21:35,460 --> 00:21:38,012 be different in some way. Ridges, knots. 379 00:21:38,156 --> 00:21:38,700 Yeah. 380 00:21:38,780 --> 00:21:43,462 Two of them expands inside of you. I don't know. Pick your. Pick 381 00:21:43,486 --> 00:21:43,862 your poison. 382 00:21:43,926 --> 00:21:44,454 Yeah. 383 00:21:44,582 --> 00:21:49,126 Something better be exciting. You know what I mean? Something exciting 384 00:21:49,318 --> 00:21:53,174 should be different. Otherwise I could read contemporary romance. 385 00:21:53,302 --> 00:21:53,798 Yeah. 386 00:21:53,894 --> 00:21:54,166 Yeah. 387 00:21:54,198 --> 00:21:54,646 And that's nice. 388 00:21:54,678 --> 00:21:57,702 It's sweet. Or historical. It's nice as well. I mean, and you 389 00:21:57,726 --> 00:22:01,222 could read dark romance with a human dude, and it could be dirty 390 00:22:01,286 --> 00:22:04,534 and crazy, but also, he's still just equipped with man parts. 391 00:22:04,582 --> 00:22:04,998 Yeah. 392 00:22:05,094 --> 00:22:07,930 But if I'm doing an alien with horns and a tail. 393 00:22:08,250 --> 00:22:08,674 Yeah. 394 00:22:08,722 --> 00:22:12,770 And I feel like she delivered. I feel like, yes, she delivered because 395 00:22:12,810 --> 00:22:17,458 the tail, I also, like, this is related to the tale. But she tells 396 00:22:17,474 --> 00:22:20,370 him, like, he's like, what do you need? And she's like, I need 397 00:22:20,410 --> 00:22:23,506 you to touch my. And he. And I thought this was great that he didn't 398 00:22:23,538 --> 00:22:25,698 just magically know where it was because he never met a human 399 00:22:25,754 --> 00:22:29,506 woman. He's like, show me where this clit is. And then he follows 400 00:22:29,538 --> 00:22:33,042 her instructions, and then he levels it up by being like, oh, you 401 00:22:33,066 --> 00:22:36,470 know what I have on my body? A tail that can suck. 402 00:22:37,930 --> 00:22:38,530 Right? 403 00:22:38,650 --> 00:22:42,066 And he just latches it right on there. And she's like, I can't 404 00:22:42,098 --> 00:22:44,802 anymore. And he's like, yes, you can. You'll do it. You can take 405 00:22:44,826 --> 00:22:48,658 it. You're here for this. You asked for it. 406 00:22:48,794 --> 00:22:51,586 Yeah, Even that. And, like, their tongues. Like, her describing 407 00:22:51,618 --> 00:22:54,322 their tongues being ribbed. You know, they have, like. Yeah, 408 00:22:54,386 --> 00:22:58,818 it was, like, the perfect, you know, alien for me. 409 00:22:58,954 --> 00:23:03,440 Yes. You know what I like about this character in general, 410 00:23:04,620 --> 00:23:06,836 in relation to sort of everything in the world, but especially 411 00:23:06,908 --> 00:23:11,124 the sex, is if I met a hot alien dude, I'm on an alien planet. 412 00:23:11,172 --> 00:23:11,892 Okay. 413 00:23:12,036 --> 00:23:13,044 All right. Set the scene. 414 00:23:13,092 --> 00:23:17,028 Hot alien dude. Who knows what's gonna happen If I found out 415 00:23:17,084 --> 00:23:20,020 that he had ridges on his tongue? My immediate thought would 416 00:23:20,060 --> 00:23:23,684 also be, I would like to feel that between my legs. That would 417 00:23:23,692 --> 00:23:27,280 be my next. The intrusive thought would be right there. 418 00:23:27,740 --> 00:23:29,252 Are you into this? 419 00:23:29,436 --> 00:23:32,960 Yeah. I'd be like. And if he was like, oh, I'm in love with you. 420 00:23:34,460 --> 00:23:37,828 And, like, I want to get it on. I'd be like, well, what we're 421 00:23:37,844 --> 00:23:41,796 not gonna do is not try it and see what's happening down there. 422 00:23:41,868 --> 00:23:42,292 Yeah. 423 00:23:42,356 --> 00:23:43,092 Just once. 424 00:23:43,196 --> 00:23:43,524 Yeah. 425 00:23:43,572 --> 00:23:49,844 And I liked that her thoughts were always, like, very, like, funny, 426 00:23:49,892 --> 00:23:54,196 but also very real. Like, she sees. Okay. Okay. There's a pink 427 00:23:54,228 --> 00:23:58,196 dinosaur. Okay. Aha. We almost died. Okay, well, you know. Okay. 428 00:23:58,388 --> 00:24:01,988 You have a rib tongue. Well, definitely. You should lick me. No. 429 00:24:02,044 --> 00:24:04,980 Bad Dory, don't say that to you. You know, like, that's very 430 00:24:05,020 --> 00:24:05,524 relatable. 431 00:24:05,572 --> 00:24:08,740 Right, right. Like, she mentioned that Toto had, like, never 432 00:24:08,780 --> 00:24:15,300 had intrusive thought, and I'm like, neither have you. Like, what 433 00:24:15,340 --> 00:24:16,640 are you talking about, girl? 434 00:24:18,140 --> 00:24:22,116 I was excited because her other books. Correct me if I'm wrong, 435 00:24:22,148 --> 00:24:25,356 but I feel like they were in this same world, but they didn't 436 00:24:25,388 --> 00:24:29,452 introduce the characters. And they were, like, standalones in the 437 00:24:29,476 --> 00:24:33,100 same series, basically. They were. They connected. 438 00:24:33,180 --> 00:24:40,060 They were interconnected through. What's her name? Is it Cherry? 439 00:24:40,140 --> 00:24:43,120 Between, like. Like, they were, like, sisters. 440 00:24:43,540 --> 00:24:44,320 Oh. 441 00:24:44,740 --> 00:24:48,412 The main girl, she was best friends with the girl who was in 442 00:24:48,516 --> 00:24:51,452 the one that. That time I needed a love potion at a werewolf. 443 00:24:51,516 --> 00:24:51,948 That's right. 444 00:24:52,004 --> 00:24:56,114 And then the younger sister of the main character was, like, abducted 445 00:24:56,162 --> 00:25:01,330 or taken in, like, the swamp, and so she ended up with the other 446 00:25:01,370 --> 00:25:02,226 dragon. 447 00:25:02,418 --> 00:25:05,682 Did you introduce the couple or just the character who. Then the 448 00:25:05,706 --> 00:25:11,922 next book was about it was just the character, right? Or am 449 00:25:11,946 --> 00:25:13,186 I wrong? I don't know. 450 00:25:13,338 --> 00:25:18,390 I think it was the. I think both. I think the couple appeared 451 00:25:19,130 --> 00:25:22,322 in the first one that was about the yeeted love potion. Like, 452 00:25:22,346 --> 00:25:26,302 we had seen them or we knew of them in the town. And then, and then 453 00:25:26,326 --> 00:25:30,142 the last one, because the sister had been abducted, she was, 454 00:25:30,166 --> 00:25:32,050 like, kept in, like, the tower. 455 00:25:32,710 --> 00:25:33,902 Right, Right. 456 00:25:34,006 --> 00:25:37,422 So, yeah, that didn't really like, mesh with that story because 457 00:25:37,446 --> 00:25:39,454 it didn't take place in that same town. 458 00:25:39,622 --> 00:25:47,214 Right. I, I in general, like books, series like this. Like, usually 459 00:25:47,262 --> 00:25:51,224 they're two series. It's like you have a main, like, characters 460 00:25:51,382 --> 00:25:54,324 in the romance who are going to be in a trilogy. Same characters 461 00:25:54,372 --> 00:25:58,228 throughout the trilogy. Or you have these where it's like, standalone, 462 00:25:58,324 --> 00:26:00,340 but it's all in the same world. They're all connected. They 463 00:26:00,380 --> 00:26:03,204 introduce the next couple, so you're excited about them, and then 464 00:26:03,212 --> 00:26:06,692 they're book two. Maybe you see Doriel be there in the background, 465 00:26:06,756 --> 00:26:10,612 perhaps. But like, the main romance of the next book is this. 466 00:26:10,716 --> 00:26:14,372 This is sort of my preferred one. Unless I'm reading, like, a 467 00:26:14,396 --> 00:26:18,364 bigger fantasy series or science fiction series in romance, 468 00:26:18,412 --> 00:26:24,892 I usually prefer, like, that each book is contained with a happily 469 00:26:24,956 --> 00:26:27,900 ever after and then it, like, leaves the door open for the next 470 00:26:27,940 --> 00:26:28,560 couple. 471 00:26:29,620 --> 00:26:32,748 I absolutely have to agree. I absolutely have to agree. If it's 472 00:26:32,764 --> 00:26:35,996 a fantasy series, I need everybody to stay the same. I'm already 473 00:26:36,068 --> 00:26:40,620 trying to learn the world. Please, like, everybody just stay 474 00:26:40,660 --> 00:26:44,492 in the same box. But when it comes to, like, romance or, like, 475 00:26:44,516 --> 00:26:47,740 you know, monster romance or series like that, I do like for each 476 00:26:47,780 --> 00:26:51,768 couple to be in its own little, like, container, like, love 477 00:26:51,824 --> 00:26:52,280 story. 478 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,384 Yeah, they're happy at the end. Happy. 479 00:26:55,512 --> 00:26:56,552 They're so happy. 480 00:26:56,616 --> 00:27:00,296 The sex was so good. Everything's great. And then, ooh, 481 00:27:00,328 --> 00:27:04,408 these other people are feeling some kind of conflict. Feelings or 482 00:27:04,544 --> 00:27:07,880 something's happening. Someone got kidnapped. Ooh, like, next time, 483 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:14,984 we'll visit them on next week's episode of Aliens. I. I liked 484 00:27:15,032 --> 00:27:19,906 that again, like, I can't state enough how bad these bird aliens 485 00:27:19,938 --> 00:27:22,578 were at creating this world and understanding humans and human 486 00:27:22,634 --> 00:27:26,930 women. But at one point, late, like, sort of late in the book, they 487 00:27:26,970 --> 00:27:31,362 find another human woman. This lady is like, a badass. She's like, 488 00:27:31,386 --> 00:27:34,242 I need to get my jacket. It has a gun and a knife in it. And 489 00:27:34,266 --> 00:27:38,594 Dory's like, it has what? What are you talking about? She's like, 490 00:27:38,602 --> 00:27:42,306 give me my jacket. And she, like, gets. She has also been shot 491 00:27:42,338 --> 00:27:46,770 with a love dart. And one of the other aliens has and he's like 492 00:27:46,810 --> 00:27:48,546 the warlord kind of of this. 493 00:27:48,618 --> 00:27:51,350 Oh, my God, you know, Crew King Osid. 494 00:27:51,690 --> 00:27:58,002 Yeah. And he can't. Like, it's impossible for their race of people 495 00:27:58,186 --> 00:28:04,870 to hurt their soul mates or whatever you would call them. Zalis 496 00:28:06,170 --> 00:28:11,596 H A L I. Yeah. And this other lady just pulls out her gun and shoots. 497 00:28:11,708 --> 00:28:14,876 Shoots him in the. And everyone is shocked. 498 00:28:14,988 --> 00:28:15,372 Yeah. 499 00:28:15,436 --> 00:28:17,532 Dory's shocked, too, because she shot him even though she knew 500 00:28:17,556 --> 00:28:19,276 it was gonna happen. Because the lady's like, I'm gonna shoot 501 00:28:19,308 --> 00:28:22,268 him. He's shocked because he's like, you shouldn't be able to hurt 502 00:28:22,284 --> 00:28:25,836 me. The bird is like, you shouldn't be able to hurt. That's 503 00:28:25,868 --> 00:28:27,068 not a human thing. 504 00:28:27,204 --> 00:28:27,836 Right. 505 00:28:27,988 --> 00:28:28,972 Right. It's not us. 506 00:28:29,076 --> 00:28:33,372 We can do whatever. No. Blair is a badass. 507 00:28:33,516 --> 00:28:34,028 Yeah. 508 00:28:34,124 --> 00:28:36,600 She was like, get me out of here. 509 00:28:37,220 --> 00:28:38,080 Yeah. 510 00:28:39,460 --> 00:28:44,112 Y. I can't wait. I hope the next book is about them. 511 00:28:44,216 --> 00:28:44,896 It has to be. 512 00:28:44,968 --> 00:28:47,472 I need it. The fact that they're at couples counseling and 513 00:28:47,496 --> 00:28:52,240 she's, like, tearing down this facility and maniacally laughing 514 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,688 and shooting. It's amazing. 515 00:28:54,864 --> 00:28:59,120 It's amazing. I already looked up. I was like, does she post when 516 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,544 the next one comes out? Which is crazy. And, Kimberly, I apologize, 517 00:29:02,592 --> 00:29:05,792 because this is what readers do. Okay, Kimberly, this book. We 518 00:29:05,816 --> 00:29:09,212 are recording this nine days before your book comes out. And I 519 00:29:09,236 --> 00:29:12,012 apologize in advance that I'm already like, when the fuck's the 520 00:29:12,036 --> 00:29:18,200 next one? Get on it. Okay. Work faster, please, girl. Right. 521 00:29:19,780 --> 00:29:23,564 Yeah. I actually see Kimberly next week at YALL Fest. 522 00:29:23,692 --> 00:29:24,236 Oh, cool. 523 00:29:24,268 --> 00:29:29,244 So I'm hoping to have her sign some of my books that I have of hers 524 00:29:29,292 --> 00:29:30,268 and bring this up. 525 00:29:30,324 --> 00:29:35,020 Here's the thing about Monsters 2 is it allows you to experience 526 00:29:35,140 --> 00:29:39,070 things that you would never experience in real life. Like, I 527 00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:40,654 don't want to be stalked. 528 00:29:40,782 --> 00:29:41,358 No. 529 00:29:41,494 --> 00:29:44,750 In real life, hardest, hardest, hardest imaginable. Pass. 530 00:29:44,870 --> 00:29:49,198 I don't want to be kidnapped. I don't want to be kept from my family 531 00:29:49,254 --> 00:29:52,142 and friends and loved ones. I don't want to be injured in some 532 00:29:52,166 --> 00:29:56,254 dramatic way and then resuscitated or whatever. All of 533 00:29:56,262 --> 00:30:02,510 that sounds terrible. However, in a book, I would like to dip my 534 00:30:02,550 --> 00:30:06,574 little toesies of imagination in a land where I've been stalking, 535 00:30:06,652 --> 00:30:10,202 kidnapped by some sort of creature, and then it turns out that 536 00:30:10,226 --> 00:30:14,138 I'm their mate and they're gonna just basically fuck me until 537 00:30:14,194 --> 00:30:17,370 I pass out. That is a world that I would like to imaginatively 538 00:30:17,450 --> 00:30:19,546 live in. Literally. 539 00:30:19,738 --> 00:30:25,162 Right. And love me undeniably. Like, my every whim is their, like, 540 00:30:25,346 --> 00:30:26,922 complete and total desire. 541 00:30:26,986 --> 00:30:32,362 Yes. Like they are here for me to do whatever. They think all my 542 00:30:32,386 --> 00:30:34,042 quirks are wonderful. Right? 543 00:30:34,066 --> 00:30:35,068 I'm so funny. 544 00:30:35,234 --> 00:30:38,072 Yeah. When Saul's like, she just shouts at trees. How cute is 545 00:30:38,096 --> 00:30:39,912 she? Like, that is what I want. 546 00:30:40,016 --> 00:30:41,160 She's so cool. 547 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,152 And Locke is like, oh, you're trying to pretend like you're not 548 00:30:44,176 --> 00:30:47,576 wet right now when my finger's inside of you. How sweet. How sweet 549 00:30:47,608 --> 00:30:51,320 you are. Your body isn't lying to me. You're so silly. You're so 550 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,216 silly. You're so beautiful and wonderful. 551 00:30:54,408 --> 00:30:57,768 Absolutely. I feel the same way. I mean, I read dark romance. 552 00:30:57,864 --> 00:31:00,936 I think it's like, kind of like the same. I get the same feeling 553 00:31:00,968 --> 00:31:04,108 when I read dark romance as when I read monster romance. Although 554 00:31:04,204 --> 00:31:07,000 monster romance tends to be, like, a bit on the lighter side. 555 00:31:07,380 --> 00:31:10,620 But like you said, it allows you to experience those things. Like, 556 00:31:10,660 --> 00:31:14,316 ooh, he's outside my window. That's kind of creepy. But also, 557 00:31:14,468 --> 00:31:16,320 I'm a little into it in the pages. 558 00:31:17,140 --> 00:31:22,800 Okay. He's in some sort of violent motorcycle gang. Oh, my God. 559 00:31:23,460 --> 00:31:27,228 What's gonna happen in real life? I'd be like, wait, you guys 560 00:31:27,244 --> 00:31:31,470 have guns? I don't think so. That's not for me. I'm gonna go home, 561 00:31:31,590 --> 00:31:35,870 drink some tea, and read a book. Thank you. No, thank you. 562 00:31:35,990 --> 00:31:38,850 Yeah, totally, totally, totally. 563 00:31:39,270 --> 00:31:44,414 That's so funny. Are there any books aside from this one that you 564 00:31:44,502 --> 00:31:50,334 have on your radar that you wanna talk about or you're excited 565 00:31:50,382 --> 00:31:51,130 to read? 566 00:31:53,910 --> 00:31:57,108 Not in the monster romance or just any. 567 00:31:57,164 --> 00:31:59,012 I mean, it doesn't have to be monster romance. 568 00:31:59,156 --> 00:32:01,320 Oh, yeah. Oathbound by Tracy. 569 00:32:01,900 --> 00:32:07,588 Oh, my God. Like, that is right before you came on. Guys, I'm 570 00:32:07,604 --> 00:32:11,012 holding up a copy of Legendborn. Yes. I just started my 571 00:32:11,036 --> 00:32:13,860 reread because I have to. It's been so long since I read the first 572 00:32:13,900 --> 00:32:17,748 one, and I was like, I can't. This is such a good story. So I'm 573 00:32:17,764 --> 00:32:20,932 gonna reread this and the second one so that I'm ready for 574 00:32:20,956 --> 00:32:22,178 the third one to come out. 575 00:32:22,324 --> 00:32:26,582 Yes. I'm in the middle of my bloodmarked reread right now. I have, 576 00:32:26,606 --> 00:32:29,318 like, a buddy read over on Storygraph, so that's really fun. 577 00:32:29,454 --> 00:32:30,390 Okay, cool. 578 00:32:30,550 --> 00:32:34,310 And I'm hosting a Oathbound midnight release party in Atlanta. 579 00:32:34,470 --> 00:32:37,450 Oh, cool. Wait, are you doing that with Amanda? 580 00:32:37,870 --> 00:32:38,902 No, they're in New York. 581 00:32:39,006 --> 00:32:40,134 They're in New York. Okay. 582 00:32:40,262 --> 00:32:43,174 I'm in Atlanta. I'm doing mine with Brave and Kind books. It's a 583 00:32:43,182 --> 00:32:47,110 black owned woman run bookstore here in Atlanta. Amazing. 584 00:32:47,270 --> 00:32:50,170 Yeah. So Oathbound is like, on the top. 585 00:32:50,350 --> 00:32:55,330 Yes, I agree. I've been waiting. When this book came out, 586 00:32:55,370 --> 00:32:58,194 I want to say it was like November, release the first one when 587 00:32:58,202 --> 00:33:00,898 it came out or something before Christmas, I literally bought 588 00:33:00,914 --> 00:33:04,978 like six copies because I was like, this book is so good. I gave 589 00:33:04,994 --> 00:33:08,418 it to my niece, I gave it to my brother. I gave one to a bunch 590 00:33:08,434 --> 00:33:10,322 of friends. I was like, guys, you have to read this book. This 591 00:33:10,346 --> 00:33:11,538 book is incredible. 592 00:33:11,634 --> 00:33:14,690 No, it's the most amazing thing. It's like what I live my life 593 00:33:14,730 --> 00:33:17,426 for every single day is to wake up and have Tracy Dion notice 594 00:33:17,458 --> 00:33:22,610 me online. Absolutely obsessed with her and she knows that. So I 595 00:33:22,650 --> 00:33:27,666 cannot wait for Oathbound. There are some other books that I'm 596 00:33:27,698 --> 00:33:34,578 excited. Nia Davenport was talking about her adult book that's 597 00:33:34,594 --> 00:33:41,810 coming out called Our Vicious Oaths that comes out this year. And 598 00:33:41,930 --> 00:33:48,432 oh, Lore of the Tides. Have you read Lore of the Wilds by Annalee? 599 00:33:48,576 --> 00:33:50,832 What is Annalee's last name? Oh, my gosh, please don't hate me, 600 00:33:50,856 --> 00:33:59,152 Annaleigh. Please. Yes, yes. Her second book, Lore of the Tides, 601 00:33:59,216 --> 00:34:01,296 comes out this year and I'm very excited about it. 602 00:34:01,368 --> 00:34:03,072 Okay, I'll have to check that one out. 603 00:34:03,096 --> 00:34:06,160 It's an adult fantasy. Lots of Fae, which I love. 604 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:07,744 I love a good fae. 605 00:34:07,872 --> 00:34:10,944 Yeah. I categorize Fae as monsters. I don't care. 606 00:34:11,112 --> 00:34:12,608 I think they are monsters. 607 00:34:12,704 --> 00:34:13,661 They are. 608 00:34:13,855 --> 00:34:17,217 I. I mean, well, I think it depends on who you ask, but I think 609 00:34:17,273 --> 00:34:20,977 if you think about the way that monsters function is like they 610 00:34:21,033 --> 00:34:24,593 are not human in some way. So they either have powers or physically 611 00:34:24,641 --> 00:34:26,577 they're different. But I feel like the Fae, like, check that they're 612 00:34:26,593 --> 00:34:29,073 like physically different. They're usually faster or stronger 613 00:34:29,121 --> 00:34:34,497 or both. Live longer. Yeah. Have powers of some kind. 614 00:34:34,633 --> 00:34:35,425 Yeah. 615 00:34:35,617 --> 00:34:38,881 I think they go into that same fantasy. Because monsters are really 616 00:34:38,905 --> 00:34:41,409 fantasy. I mean, they're just fantasy. They're just like a little 617 00:34:41,449 --> 00:34:42,353 subset of fantasy. 618 00:34:42,401 --> 00:34:43,321 But that's true. 619 00:34:43,425 --> 00:34:44,650 That's your fancy for sure. 620 00:34:44,690 --> 00:34:47,562 Because I put everything that isn't human under monster and I call 621 00:34:47,586 --> 00:34:51,866 it a day. I'm like, Edward Cullen monster. 622 00:34:51,978 --> 00:34:57,450 I mean, he eats people. So I would say vampires are monsters for 623 00:34:57,490 --> 00:34:57,786 sure. 624 00:34:57,858 --> 00:34:58,602 That is true. 625 00:34:58,666 --> 00:35:04,090 That is true. Oh, Edward Cullen. What a. What a character. 626 00:35:04,170 --> 00:35:10,180 What a character. Shiny skin, you know what's creepy? And I feel 627 00:35:10,220 --> 00:35:13,444 like typically, or maybe, I don't know, maybe this is not true 628 00:35:13,492 --> 00:35:16,820 now that I'm saying it, but I feel like in monster romances that 629 00:35:16,860 --> 00:35:23,268 are like monster monsters, like some sort of hooved individual, 630 00:35:23,364 --> 00:35:26,628 some sort of, you know, like you said, Kraken individual. Whatever. 631 00:35:26,724 --> 00:35:29,188 Sometimes they're really old, but sometimes they're like the same 632 00:35:29,244 --> 00:35:33,012 age as the character or very similar age. But like when you have 633 00:35:33,036 --> 00:35:35,172 like vampires or whatever, they're always really old. 634 00:35:35,276 --> 00:35:35,604 Yeah. 635 00:35:35,652 --> 00:35:36,468 It's inevitable. 636 00:35:36,564 --> 00:35:36,980 Yeah. 637 00:35:37,060 --> 00:35:42,520 And. And when you think about, like, if you made him look his age, 638 00:35:43,460 --> 00:35:47,452 so he would have been 100 and something, when the. If you made 639 00:35:47,476 --> 00:35:50,588 him look like a little shriveled one hundred and something 640 00:35:50,644 --> 00:35:56,476 year old man hitting on this seventeen year old girl, it really 641 00:35:56,548 --> 00:36:01,880 takes the fun out of vampires. It does. 642 00:36:02,500 --> 00:36:06,396 It absolutely does. I also, like, I'm part of like the Edward 643 00:36:06,428 --> 00:36:11,140 Cullen, like, hate fan club. Like, I am always like, meh, Whatever. 644 00:36:11,220 --> 00:36:14,916 I'm always. I've been team Jacob since I first read Twilight 645 00:36:14,948 --> 00:36:16,260 in 2005. 646 00:36:16,380 --> 00:36:18,404 Okay, I get that. Where because you like werewolves, you 647 00:36:18,412 --> 00:36:20,920 like the more monstrous ones, you know, shapeshifters. 648 00:36:21,500 --> 00:36:24,200 You're onto something. Wait a minute. Am I being perceived? 649 00:36:25,260 --> 00:36:28,180 Well, here, let me ask you a question. I had this debate with 650 00:36:28,220 --> 00:36:31,524 friends last night. Do you think in Beauty and the Beast the 651 00:36:31,532 --> 00:36:34,320 Beast was hotter as a beast or as a man? 652 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,672 As a beast, he turns into a man. He looks so dirty. 653 00:36:38,736 --> 00:36:41,440 What a letdown. What a letdown. 654 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,912 You could have at least given him a beard. He could have been like, 655 00:36:45,016 --> 00:36:46,016 play it up. 656 00:36:46,168 --> 00:36:49,696 Thank you. Not this, like, pretty, like with his pretty hands. 657 00:36:49,728 --> 00:36:51,008 I was like, what are we doing here? 658 00:36:51,064 --> 00:36:54,980 His like, golden locks. Like, I don't want to see that, Barb. 659 00:36:55,800 --> 00:37:01,516 So I was at a dinner and they were like, there were three women 660 00:37:01,668 --> 00:37:06,924 who are all like my age, like mid to late 30s. And then there were 661 00:37:07,012 --> 00:37:11,772 four guys, all also mid to late 30s. When I tell you the guys 662 00:37:11,836 --> 00:37:17,324 were shocked that we preferred the Beast over the prince, the girls, 663 00:37:17,372 --> 00:37:19,644 I was like, well, you thought the Beast was hotter. And she was 664 00:37:19,652 --> 00:37:22,748 like, of course I did. And the other woman was like, yeah, obviously. 665 00:37:22,844 --> 00:37:25,532 And they were like, wait, wait, wait, what? And I was like, 666 00:37:25,556 --> 00:37:30,524 yeah, the Beast can get it. That human man. Hard. He would have 667 00:37:30,532 --> 00:37:32,636 turned back into a prince. And I would have been like, well, you're 668 00:37:32,668 --> 00:37:36,860 welcome. I fixed your curse. I'll just hang out in the library 669 00:37:37,020 --> 00:37:40,652 and you can putter around as need be. But I'll be in this beautiful 670 00:37:40,716 --> 00:37:46,028 library drinking tea with my friends Cogsworth and Lumir. And 671 00:37:46,084 --> 00:37:50,360 you can do you. Not me, because you're real. 672 00:37:51,460 --> 00:37:57,378 110. I actually read a monster romance that is called Beast by Jennica 673 00:37:57,394 --> 00:38:01,618 Snow. Have you read that? It is. It's like if the Beast never 674 00:38:01,674 --> 00:38:04,082 turned into a human. 675 00:38:04,266 --> 00:38:05,190 Okay. 676 00:38:05,610 --> 00:38:07,650 And it's everything I needed. 677 00:38:07,810 --> 00:38:13,730 Yeah, yeah. It. I mean, I don't. I'm not looking up the COVID 678 00:38:13,770 --> 00:38:17,550 right now because I'm like, did I need it? 679 00:38:17,930 --> 00:38:21,690 I think the COVID is in black with, like, rose petals or something. 680 00:38:22,790 --> 00:38:25,038 I think it's Jenna. Is that her name? 681 00:38:25,174 --> 00:38:29,534 Yeah, that's right. Let me look. Oh, yeah. It's like the rose. 682 00:38:29,662 --> 00:38:33,262 I don't think so, but I'll have to check it out because I. I 683 00:38:33,286 --> 00:38:36,782 do enjoy a retelling of a fairy tale for the same reason that 684 00:38:36,806 --> 00:38:41,118 I think it was nice that all of the animals and creatures and 685 00:38:41,174 --> 00:38:45,822 dinosaurs and plants in this book were human or earthbound. I 686 00:38:45,846 --> 00:38:50,130 guess. Right. When you dip into those retellings, your brain 687 00:38:50,210 --> 00:38:55,282 automatically understands where the story starts. And so even 688 00:38:55,306 --> 00:38:57,826 though it ends up in a different place, you already know, 689 00:38:57,898 --> 00:39:01,282 oh, I know what the beast is like. I understand the curse might 690 00:39:01,306 --> 00:39:03,890 be slightly different, but I understand sort of the basic players 691 00:39:03,930 --> 00:39:07,778 and the basic plot so I can get behind. Like, there's a bunch 692 00:39:07,794 --> 00:39:09,410 of Peter Pan ones. 693 00:39:09,570 --> 00:39:16,136 I want to get into romances. Yeah, I love Peter Pan. It probably 694 00:39:16,168 --> 00:39:21,464 is one of my top fairy tales. But I have not dipped into all the 695 00:39:21,472 --> 00:39:24,712 books that I've seen that are like, dark romance. Peter Pan. I 696 00:39:24,736 --> 00:39:27,560 know that Emily McIntyre has one. It's called Hooked, isn't it? 697 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:37,420 Yep, I read that one. I also read Never. It's a dark romance. 698 00:39:39,530 --> 00:39:40,882 Let me think about this. 699 00:39:40,986 --> 00:39:42,258 Oh, it's like a Lost Boy. 700 00:39:42,354 --> 00:39:48,338 Never King. Yeah, Lost Boys. Never Something. Never. I think it's 701 00:39:48,354 --> 00:39:49,378 called Never King. 702 00:39:49,474 --> 00:39:50,898 I think it's called the Never King. 703 00:39:50,994 --> 00:39:55,090 The Vicious Lost Boys. Maybe that's the series. Maybe Nikki St. 704 00:39:55,130 --> 00:39:59,698 Crow. The first one is called the Dark One. Oh, wait, no, that's 705 00:39:59,714 --> 00:40:02,914 the second book. The Never King is the first one. Dark One is 706 00:40:02,922 --> 00:40:07,026 the second one. Vicious Lost Boys. I read those. I made a mistake, 707 00:40:07,058 --> 00:40:11,850 though, because I really need to pay attention more to whether 708 00:40:11,890 --> 00:40:15,242 the whole series is complete. Because I read the first one, burned 709 00:40:15,306 --> 00:40:18,490 through it. I was like, this book is so fun and dark and weird, 710 00:40:18,570 --> 00:40:21,658 but, like, Peter Pan and the Lost Boys, everybody's fucking like, 711 00:40:21,714 --> 00:40:25,466 I'm into it. Read the Segue book, got to the end, went to Kindle 712 00:40:25,498 --> 00:40:27,882 Unlimited, tried to get the third book, and it wasn't out yet. 713 00:40:27,906 --> 00:40:32,026 And I was like, oh, I've made mistakes. I've made. I've backed 714 00:40:32,058 --> 00:40:36,760 myself into a corner, and I can't get out of the corner because 715 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,380 this book doesn't come. It was like six months before. 716 00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:43,016 Are you that type of reader where you need the series to be complete 717 00:40:43,048 --> 00:40:44,100 before you start it? 718 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,728 So not Always. And like, back when we were younger, because books 719 00:40:48,744 --> 00:40:52,344 came out once a year, I was used to waiting. I think it depends. 720 00:40:52,392 --> 00:40:58,504 If I'm reading, like, a book in, like, that I get, like, for instance, 721 00:40:58,552 --> 00:41:01,768 like, Legendborn, I got. And I knew it just got published. It'll 722 00:41:01,784 --> 00:41:04,334 be a year. I knew it. But I feel like sometimes when I'm on, 723 00:41:04,342 --> 00:41:09,582 like, Kindle Unlimited or I'm reading series that are faster and 724 00:41:09,686 --> 00:41:14,910 maybe slightly shorter, or even romances where I just, like, 725 00:41:14,950 --> 00:41:19,518 don't really think about it and it's like, ends on cliffhangers 726 00:41:19,534 --> 00:41:23,902 all the time. Then I'm like, oh, shit, I should have waited. Because 727 00:41:24,086 --> 00:41:27,822 part of me is such a mood reader. And also, like you, I get 728 00:41:27,846 --> 00:41:30,894 sent a lot of books. I get recommended a lot of books. And so 729 00:41:30,902 --> 00:41:34,578 I feel like sometimes if I miss my window of when I'm like, 730 00:41:34,694 --> 00:41:39,642 have a. The time. And also I'm like, into that series, then I won't 731 00:41:39,706 --> 00:41:43,354 finish it or I won't ever go back to it if I miss. You know what 732 00:41:43,362 --> 00:41:48,010 I mean? Like, if I. Unless, you know, in two years when book 733 00:41:48,050 --> 00:41:52,106 four comes out or whatever, or in a year when book four comes out, 734 00:41:52,178 --> 00:41:54,282 then someone's like, oh, my God, did you read the last book? 735 00:41:54,306 --> 00:41:56,922 And then I'm like, wait a minute. I didn't wait. I must go 736 00:41:56,946 --> 00:42:00,764 back and find it. So that's tricky. 737 00:42:00,962 --> 00:42:06,872 Yeah. Yeah. I think. I don't know. I think because like you said, 738 00:42:06,896 --> 00:42:09,080 like, we both get, like, get sent a lot of books. I can like, 739 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:13,016 supplement in between where I'm like, okay, I want to finish 740 00:42:13,048 --> 00:42:16,536 this series, but I have all these other books in the meantime 741 00:42:16,568 --> 00:42:18,488 that I could just, like, plug in there. 742 00:42:18,624 --> 00:42:22,344 Yes. I mean, that is definitely what I do. I. Now that 743 00:42:22,352 --> 00:42:25,140 I'm thinking about it, I'm like, did I read the final book? 744 00:42:26,870 --> 00:42:31,326 I read the first three. When did the fourth one come out? Let's 745 00:42:31,358 --> 00:42:36,782 peruse. March of two years ago. So who knows? It's hard to say 746 00:42:36,806 --> 00:42:37,726 whether I read it or not. 747 00:42:37,798 --> 00:42:38,382 Yeah. 748 00:42:38,526 --> 00:42:43,710 Impossible to know. I'd have to reread the whole series. This 749 00:42:43,750 --> 00:42:47,326 has been a delight. Thank you so much for coming on and talking 750 00:42:47,358 --> 00:42:51,614 about this book with me. I was so excited a. Because I just thought 751 00:42:51,622 --> 00:42:53,454 it was so cute. Like the COVID of it. So cute. 752 00:42:53,502 --> 00:42:54,130 Yes. 753 00:42:54,580 --> 00:42:57,852 And after we read the first one on the podcast, I wanted to read 754 00:42:57,876 --> 00:43:02,044 another one of her books. And, you know, this was the perfect mix 755 00:43:02,092 --> 00:43:08,044 of dinosaurs and hilarious, you know, banter and aliens and horns 756 00:43:08,092 --> 00:43:09,200 and tails. 757 00:43:10,020 --> 00:43:14,940 Yeah. I do want to mention the, like, ending of the epilogue, 758 00:43:15,020 --> 00:43:20,076 where yeah, the intern. His code name is now Cupid. 759 00:43:20,188 --> 00:43:24,200 I'm like, oh, my gosh. I signed it. I. 760 00:43:26,180 --> 00:43:26,672 Love. 761 00:43:26,756 --> 00:43:29,336 And he's obviously going to be in the rest of the books, which is 762 00:43:29,408 --> 00:43:31,784 exciting because he was a very funny little character. 763 00:43:31,832 --> 00:43:32,312 Yes, he was. 764 00:43:32,336 --> 00:43:34,664 And I'm excited. In the next book, presumably, he'll find out 765 00:43:34,672 --> 00:43:38,072 that they duped him about the coffee and the chocolate, which will 766 00:43:38,096 --> 00:43:39,304 be a very fun little time. 767 00:43:39,392 --> 00:43:40,280 Absolutely. 768 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,872 All right, well, you guys, if you want to follow Trey, you can 769 00:43:42,896 --> 00:43:47,160 go to Xo Treylee on Instagram, and I'll, of course, drop a link 770 00:43:47,240 --> 00:43:50,040 in the description of the app that you happen to be listening on. 771 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,548 And until next time, may your books be your lover and your hand, 772 00:43:53,604 --> 00:43:57,692 your best friend. Bye for now, kids. Thanks for hanging in with 773 00:43:57,716 --> 00:44:00,812 those romance readers. Head over to Instagram to continue chatting 774 00:44:00,876 --> 00:44:04,172 with us. We're super friendly. We want to cackle with you. We want 775 00:44:04,196 --> 00:44:07,308 to know what your favorite sex scene was, and we need more book 776 00:44:07,364 --> 00:44:09,612 recommendations. If you want to read along with. 777 00:44:09,636 --> 00:44:13,292 Us, go to our website, romanceataglance.com to. 778 00:44:13,316 --> 00:44:15,900 See what we're reading next. And we'll see you next podcast.