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Hello, hello, loves. It's so lovely to have you here. I'm your host, Alexia Usgaard, and today I am deeply enthused to welcome someone who has been a profound influence on my journey, Jenna Black. So Jenna is an elite mentor and business wealth activator who guides visionary women scaling into six to seven figures through their higher soul calling. As the host of the Woman of Wealth podcast and founder of House of Woman of Wealth, she has served
thousands of women over her decade plus journey as an entrepreneur. Her work has been featured in Forbes, Huffington Post, and the world's top podcast shows as a world renowned activator helping visionary leaders step powerfully into a life of wealth, higher purpose, and energetic luxury. Frankly, I first connected with Jenna during a pivotal moment in my own business and life evolution. What immediately struck me
about Jenna was her extraordinary ability to see beyond the immediate circumstances in my life and on my journey to hold me to my highest standard in my highest vision. She is someone I have worked intimately with as her client and I have witnessed firsthand how she truly embodies what it means to lead from divine power rather than from hustle, which you know I am so all about.
I know that she's helped so many other women like me around the globe to frankly just get to this place of knowing what we really want, our deepest truth and keeping things simple. She's also a mama to two little kids. And I just have always been so impressed by the way that she truly walks her talk in leading an intentional life. This conversation is.
particularly special because I'm actually weaving in insights from Jenna's Gene Keys profile. And so you'll see me specifically illuminating her natural gifts for visionary leadership and why it's just amazing to see that she's truly in alignment with who she's here to be and the impact she's genuinely here to make on the world. You'll also discover why your biggest vision might be asking for even more expansion and why stillness.
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is actually oftentimes the key code to expanding in a powerful way. You'll be able to experience and to learn about her transformative 333 ritual for maintaining pristine energy so you can have precise strategy in your business and understand how to create wealth from a place of divine power rather than that endless feeling of the next tactic, the next system we have to figure out.
I just absolutely love that Jenna holds such an energy of sovereignty. So whether you're scaling your business, seeking deeper alignment in your leadership, or simply curious about a different approach to wealth creation, I know that this conversation offers paradigm shifting perspectives on what's possible when we leave from our divine power. So without further ado, let's dive into my conversation with the incredible Jenna Black.
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Jenna, it is so good to have you here. Thank you for being in the Elevate Daily space. You have been such a key pillar for me on the journey of bringing this project to life. So it feels so symbolic to finally have you and to share your incredible insights and vision today. So thank you first and foremost for being here.
Oh, thank you for having me. It's such an honor and also so beautiful to have seen you create this and now be in the room. It's beautiful. I'm excited.
Oh, what a room. I feel like this conversation today, I'm really intrigued to come into sharing what it means to actually have a higher vision, what it means to really see wealth from an elevated perspective, especially during these times where I think we're watching the collective. There's so much chaos that many people are experiencing. There can be a natural tendency to feel a lot more fear and scarcity at this time. And so I really desire for more people to hear your lens on this, which I feel like really does help us to zoom out.
to expand into seeing that there is a bigger picture, a new picture that will require, in a lot of ways, imagination and new ways of thinking and long-term thinking, which is so interesting because that's so aligned with your gene keys, which we're gonna go into. But I wanna first start off by just giving a little bit of a feeler into your story. And I know you have a very powerful, potent story, but what I really felt called to bring forward today is, I think it's really easy for someone to look now at your connection to
wealth creation and it being connected to your divine power. But I would imagine there was some shifting some parts of your journey where you learned this. So I would just love to ask, can you take me to a moment when you first discovered that wealth creation could be more than just, you know, probably you striving and hustling and wearing yourself out and really stepping into this energy of moving from your divine power.
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Mm hmm. Yes. Wow. Well, firstly, there's been so many occasions it's it is difficult to even pinpoint like that first memory of that feeling. But there was one that came through when I was tuning into this earlier. And it was early on in my business. And it was after a big season of hustle, and of doing and, you know, what am I missing? What's the key strategy I need and all that sort of
energy that we get caught up in of there must be something that I don't know that I need to implement. And I was moving through a big season of scarcity. I was doing a lot of money mindset work. I was doing a lot of personal development and nothing seemed to be shifting. And it was when I started to actually just let all of that go. And I just kept coming back into a daily practice of connecting to my soul, connecting to my inner voice and really like quieting the noise.
that everything started to take on a new energy and start to shift. And I remember specifically one experience where previously in my corporate, well, not corporate job, but creative job in the fashion industry, I made 50,000 a year as my salary. That was my salary, you know, just before I was leaving. And as I started to play with this energy in my business,
and I started to let go of all the rules and I just showed up every day from a state of being and a state of frequency and then I would do the thing that my soul was showing me to do. I remember having a 50K week. And that was when I had this different perspective of not that it was about the money at all, it was about time being an illusion and about the fact that really our divine power is what is setting the frequency of what we're open to receive. And it was so powerful for me because it was like I used to spend a whole year
efforting every day to create that amount of energy, aka money. And I've just received that same amount in one week. And that brought me into this question of like, what else is possible? And that was when it was a whole, a whole new paradigm really of moving through, not just moving through business, but moving through life differently and seeing that anything is available here now and that time can be collapsed and bended and distorted and
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shifted to meet us where we are and meet our power. So yeah, that was just one example of that divine power leading me. And I remember that week being so joyful as well and so easeful and so light. I was wrapping Christmas presents. I remember it was like that time of the year where it was just sort of like relaxing. And I was like, all this money is flowing in. And it just gave me a new experience of what is possible moving from that energy.
I love this so much because I feel like you're giving the invitation that for anyone who's listening right now where you're feeling like there might be a fixation on the numbers or like an identity you've created around what the numbers mean about you. If you're not achieving a certain level that you desire in your business or in any of your life, maybe you've been someone in corporate who's been wanting to get a promotion for a while and it's not been in the divine timing you've wanted it to be, you know? And so I love this because what I feel in you, Jenna, is you
are this invitation of, you actually expand your vision of time? And can you not fixate? We ruin so much of our joy oftentimes because we think the money and the time have to happen in some certain correlation. Whereas what I felt in you was you let that go and you really stepped into a trust in many ways. And it didn't mean you were just doing nothing, which is what I kind of want to go into next is the truth was you were still showing up for your life. You weren't just
laying around expecting that if you watch Netflix, things were just going to pop into your account. And though you weren't stressing, like there's such a nuance, I think, in that conversation of it doesn't mean you just, you know, I like there can be these extreme identities of like, I'm either just in permanent flow and that's just how I go. Or there we go. There's a good little rhyme for you. Or it's this fixated, you're like hyper.
Efforting there's so much you've got to do and I know for myself. I've definitely witnessed going through both of those Yeah dynamics, and I know I'm not alone in that we're like now I'm just gonna only flow and that also doesn't entirely work if there's no structure What did you notice for yourself? So like when you started going okay? I'm gonna go frequency first. I'm gonna focus on my divine power What shifted or like how did that look in your day-to-day life in terms of how you were running your business in your life? I mean, you're a mom of two kids
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You know, you're married, like there's a lot in your life that you're navigating. So how did that look in the process?
Yeah, well, I think I started to realize most of my life, I've been placing the doing as the first thing, do, then I will have something then I will be relaxed, you know, then I will be abundant. And that's how most of the world operates, right. And so this whole shift for me, really allowed me to see that from the higher spiritual plane, the higher divine plane, that is the energy that actually comes into
the higher intellectual mind and then comes into the physical body, is the doing. And so the doing was actually the last piece, AKA what is the strategy? What is the action? What is the thing I'm actually implementing? And so I started to shift my, not even my routine, just my way of being and moving through the day from an energy first perspective. And I got really intentional. I think that was the key thing as well. Intention has been a big part of my journey. I got really intentional with every
moment of my day. And that's still how I move. You know, I don't rush into the next thing. I'm not thinking about 10 hours down the track, I'm in the present moment. And I'm in that thing. And I'm in the being state and the frequency state in that moment. And that is how immediately I started to see that the anxiety that I had in years before that, you know, I was so highly anxious.
a lot of health conditions coming up, but all these things started to quite literally dissolve and dissolve quite quickly because I was just in my current now moment and not in the past or not in the future, but in the now, in the highest timeline in the now. And that is not something that I'm always in, of course, I'm human, I'm having a human experience. I'm going to be pulled out of that. I'm going to step out. I always say I step out, we step out of our divine power, we step out of our divine perfection.
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to then remember who we are and come back. And that is really like the game of life to me. It's like, no way I remember who I am. But yeah, that was some of the shifts for me was really just this intentionality and placing the doing as the final piece and the frequency being the thing that leads and directs the strategy that I choose and who I choose to be while I'm doing changed everything.
So beautiful because I first off love that you named that it doesn't mean that you don't have your human moments because I feel like there can be so much pressure that people put on themselves around. I'm going to really focus on my energy first. And then they feel like if they tap out of the energy for a moment, they've screwed up the whole thing. You know, it's kind of that dynamic of why New Year's resolutions often don't work or when people set up new habits, it doesn't work because they kind of immediately beat themselves up if it doesn't work, which is
What I love and what I've witnessed walking with you intimately is I really feel that you hold the two. I really feel that you also have a deep love for both, that you honor the gift of we came here to move in our divine power, that that is who we are. We came here with important gifts. We came here with important leadership missions, which is why it's really important we show up. And we're doing it as beautiful, adorable, sweet humans that have.
hilarious emotions that come up that have hilarious moments where our saboteur shows up and you just really hold this ability to honor the emotional range. It's what I've witnessed and something I really value with you because I even on my own journey have seen, I feel like one of my biggest ahas was definitely realizing, okay, no matter how much I do, doesn't actually always relate, doesn't always guarantee my outcome. And so similarly, I started realizing, okay, identity first.
And this is why when I saw your work, and I feel like this is what connected me so much to you, is I really felt this power in your communication. I felt such an energetic clarity in how you speak and how you lead. And I do feel like it's because you are so connected to who you're, like what identity you consistently channel into. And I know for you, you've brought forward with your community is this incredible embodiment that you call woman of wealth.
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And I'd love to just ask, what does woman of wealth mean to you? Because I know for myself, from my own experience, it's really given me an archetype. It feels like an archetype, an identity I can, in the human moments, come back to. And I feel like you are that invitation. So what does a woman of wealth mean to you?
Yeah, beautiful. I think you're the first person that's asked me this so far, which is exciting. And it's something that actually evolves. And I actually deepen into each day. Like even just yesterday, I was like, yeah, that's the woman of wealth. Like, it's so interesting how it takes on this life. But to me, ultimately, it means a woman connected to knowing that she is the source of all. Knowing that she has that divine power, that she is a state of wealth. Wealth is who we are. And
Again, most of the world will see wealth as through money. Like that's the immediate thing that we think of. And I do a lot of beautiful money work with my clients, but it's beyond money. It's into a state of wealth on every level. But ultimately what that means to me is the woman that knows she is resourced and she is the source and she has everything within her at all times. And when she steps out of that divine perfection, we just remember, we get called back into that power.
And I think that's something really beautiful when you start to like welcome in the frequency of a woman of wealth, because it is a woman of wealth. She holds it all. She carries it all. She has it all within her. And to me, it's getting to play in wealth on every level. So it is financial, but it's also spiritual and energetic. It's physical, it's mental, it's emotional, the whole spectrum. So that's what it means to me so far. It's constantly evolving and constantly being layered, but it's really that woman who moves from her state of being and her internal divinity.
and creates her reality, creates her world and knows that she is that point of power.
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I love the invitation so deeply and I love what you name and what I've heard you name many times it's always stuck with me which is we are the source. A woman of wealth knows that she is the source and then from that place we are we have limitless resource. So I love that invitation you always give anyone listening which is
in a world that can make us feel like, again, we have to attach to a number, we have to attach to something external. There's this consistent remembrance of no matter what are your external circumstances right now, you are always a limitless source of content, ideas, gifts, perspective, money that can come in so many different forms. And I love that even when we think about resources, because oftentimes maybe physical money, which is what a lot of people.
associate with wealth isn't necessarily coming someone's way right this moment. But if you're someone listening who's felt maybe like they've been a bit stagnant in that perspective, I know you're someone who would look and probably give the insight of where are other resources showing up in your life? Where are you not seeing all that you are cultivating? Is that what you would say to someone if there's someone listening who goes, okay, I'm just in a season, I'm in a moment in my life where for some reason I feel like
I've tapped out of my abundance frequency. Things are not flowing the way I want. What would you say to someone to really invite them back into the remembrance of their limitless resource?
Yeah, well, it is absolutely that it's reminding them that they hold all the answers and we actually just have to tune out the thought forms, beliefs, conditioning, external environment to actually create that state of connection. Because the woman of wealth again knows that she can connect in at any moment, like in any now moment you have that access. And
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That was something that I had to cultivate for myself was really knowing like, what am I allowing into my field? What am I allowing to dictate my actions or my beliefs? And if money is not showing up, where am I not showing up for my soul's calling right now? Like, what is the invitation for me? And that's another thing I look up with my clients when they're in that space. Many people do come to me in that space where they're feeling like they've moved through a season of big lack or scarcity and they're like, what's going on?
And it's where are you not being called in? Where are you not trusting what you're actually receiving? And oftentimes, we're not trusting because we're so dialed into everyone else. So when we create that space, then we can hear it. And then we know we can see very clearly what it is we're here to do next.
my gosh, I have to just share when you say this, feel I'm seeing myself, but also I'm seeing the moments where connecting with you or in general in life, I've realized how much in those moments when I've been in, let's say an area where the momentum or the attraction hasn't been working in a way that feels aligned. So much of it is me receiving my own power. Me being opening my capacity, I actually realize oftentimes
Yes.
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It's the lack of belief I have in just how limitless the source of what I channel from is. And so I've had to see so many moments where, I feel like this just feels important to share because I'm like, yeah, in this moment and walking with you, there's been those moments of consistently coming back to, my gosh, can I actually allow it to be this good? Can I actually trust that I'm an overflowing vessel? You know, in a world that I think for so many of us, it's really nerve wracking.
to actually own just how powerful we are. There's so much conditioning and we can say all the systemic reasons, right? Why it's not felt safe for many of us to just be completely vessels of divine power because I mean, we probably, our competence has triggered people. I know a lot of people have stories related to being in relationship that they're gonna lose. Like in romantic relationship, it's too intimidating. And you know, I'm you've heard all the stories. But I would imagine so much of what you're needing to hold space for as a woman.
coming into this place of, my gosh, I am this magnificent, incredibly divine, powerful being, and am I okay to receive all of this and actually trust that I can hold it, walk with it, and really shine in it? I would imagine does that come up a good amount in others that you would.
Also 100 % 100 % almost every time I can see because energetically I can usually read what's happening for a client. It's usually a series of prompts and questions that we like they find they figure it out for themselves too. But and we've had those moments too. But it's like, there is always an invitation into something bigger. And what I found personally as well just from my own experience, but I've also witnessed this many times is when I feel like I'm in a season where things are maybe not moving, or I'm feeling a bit frustrated myself.
Usually it's because I'm pouring my energy into something and my soul actually already wants to expand. It's like, let's create something more exciting. Like let's expand it even bigger. And usually for me that will instantly clear any of the avoidant energy that I have, any frustration that I have, any feeling of scarcity that's coming up because there's an invitation into what our souls are actually here to do. And I deeply believe our souls are here for
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creating and for experience. And so when we're holding back on creating and we're dulling it down and we're diluting the fullness of our power or the fullness of our gifts, we're going to feel frustrated. We're going to see things in our 3D world that are not what we want because we're being reflected all the time what we're choosing to believe and what we're choosing to know. So yes, I see that countless times. Like it's almost a daily occurrence in my world where there's something
frustration coming up for someone and then we move through it very quickly. And then it's about this, yeah, that excites me or that's where I want to go or can I really step into that? And as my clients do, and there's a deep embodiment in their leadership and their visionary gifts, it takes on a whole new frequency and things just start to move. So helpful.
I I can just speak firsthand from my own experience of walking with you during these moments in my own journey and just being held so beautifully in it. I, okay, so when I, I'm gonna disclose one of your first gene keys because this just blew, this one blew my mind. Honestly, these days, as we know, it doesn't really shock me that much with people, because I just, the personalization, the uniqueness of everyone's charts just never ceases to amaze me. When I went on your profile,
and saw that yours, the first thing I just want to share is your dominant theme. So one of the first things I look at is, do you have any doubles, triples, any gene keys that show up multiple times? And you do have a double and it is gene key 17. And it goes from the shadow of opinion to the gift of farsightedness to the city, the highest frequency of omniscience. And why this feels so important with also what you just said is when I connect to
This.
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So much of what this gene key goes from is you move from the shadow of opinion. It's very duality consciousness. If you think about our world right now, there's so many people with really strong opinions about like what they think is right. It's like, and if we think about it, there's a lot of limited thinking. There's a lot of limited ideas of what's possible. There's just this fixation on being right. There's a fixation on naturally othering other people. There's just a lot of that consciousness.
And then the farsightedness is so much about just seeing the higher vision, like being so aware of zooming out, seeing oftentimes as another incredible woman I love, Africa Brooke wrote a book on the third perspective. Like there's that gift in seeing the perspective beyond the perspective. And then omniscience, which is like your natural deepest truth is that energy that literally holds the energy of the universal vision, the vision of all, the vision of complete togetherness. And when I think about this from all lenses,
with you and what I've witnessed is when I even came into working with you in a container, a coaching container, I was in a journey where like in my head, when I think back to it, I was like, yeah, I was in a lot of like my own opinions of what my business needed to be. Right? Right. Like I was fixated on, this is what I think I'm doing. This is what I think I'm launching. This is the membership we're going to do. Right. All these opinions. And I will never forget.
how quickly, because I love visioning as you know, it's something that I do a lot and I walk a lot of others through, but we all need to ensure we're being held in that experience. I was always a little nervous, I think with certain people and like holding, I think we should all have discernment with people, but I was always wanting that like, can someone expand me, but do it from just such an energy of emotional range and.
there's this love consciousness, right? There's an energy of, you bring me into the vision that is a soul aligned vision? And I will never forget my first ever call with you where you brought me into my higher vision. yeah, it was intense. think I left this call. I thought for sure, I thought for sure I was going on this call. I'm just gonna see some little like tweaks, some little goodies to my plan. And very quickly, I think I left the call.
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I love the call like a whole energy of realizing, you know, I think we have to sometimes be so willing when we see the truth I can only imagine what you hold for people in this because oftentimes we drive ourselves crazy Yes, I was because we won't just let ourselves see our higher vision, which if we're willing to finally see it There's discomfort but also so much freedom that lives and so I when I saw this was your gift. I'm like
because when I think about so much of what you bring forward and what I've witnessed in your embodiment, is this literal gift of being a walking reminder of zoom out? Let's expand the vision. Let's move out of this one little micro moment and hold you in the omniscience of you're a divine being and we can come back. First off, how does that resonate? yeah, feel, like I said, was like, wow, I've experienced your gift very deeply in my own journey.
but also just witnessing you in your leadership, how you show up in all areas. I feel like you really embody this far-sighted universal vision for all frequency.
Firstly, when I first learned about that jinky, the omniscience, that it like that word moved me. I was like, I just feel like I that's described who I've always been. And yet as a kid, I had no idea what I was seeing. Because I've always had that gift of even I remember as a small child, my daughter's five now. So I always kind of think about when I was about four or five as well. And I started to be able to read oric fields and see colors around.
adults in the room and I could see their emotional range and I could see what they were upset about and yet they couldn't see it. Or and I was like, but you know, don't get so upset because this is who you really are. I could always remember vividly having interactions with grownups and and always knowing that that's not who you are. Like you're in this emotional turmoil or argument or stress about a bill or something but you're so much more than that. But I didn't know as a
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little kid how to describe that I could just feel it and see it. And I kept it very secretive. And then now in my work, it's such a joy to be able to actually share that really openly and hold women like yourself, like powerful leaders like you in that visioning, because we do limit and our divine selves, like they hold so much power and wisdom and knowledge. And that's why I love doing sessions like that, where we actually just get to fully drop in.
And it can be, like you said, there was a little bit of discomfort, right? It's like, like what I thought was the thing to do or what I thought I would be creating has just completely shifted and expanded. But look at where you are now because we started to activate that energy and it's, deeply powerful. So yes, I completely relate to like that. I connected that so deeply in my Gene Keys and I love your perspective of it as well, because.
is real.
For me, always, I feel like I'm here to bring forward this divine intelligence to the world and to remind people of the bigger ecosystem, the bigger energy that we're here to create beyond even Earth, know, like universally. And that is even big for me to say that's like something even in recent months, I've been leaning into more and more. But that came through when I've been connecting to this to my own, my own far sighted vision and really going beyond and beyond. So yeah.
It's exciting.
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And it's so beautiful to see you living it, you know, because we all have our gene keys and the beautiful thing is I what I love about the system is I was talking to someone they went Lex I feel like you really invited people into this path of excellence like it's an because it's so specific There's such an opportunity for people to get really honest about what are my shadow dynamics? What are my highest gifts and it really is that pathway?
And I love when I see someone's dominant theme in your case, and I can see you living it out. can see that you're aware. The beautiful thing is you are going to have moments where you're going to definitely go, opinions, or you're going to see it in yourself. And you're just going to naturally meet the shadow within yourself at every level. But it's like you just have created so many tools around yourself and such an awareness that I can just witness. And I have witnessed you just consistently zoom out into your gift and consistently honor your gift.
And also just now it's beautiful witnessing in your work how much you're owning it and seeing how big of a contribution it is. And I'll say for myself walking with you in it, what was so powerful and I think what I can really highlight is why I know you're in your gift frequency in it is I felt so much trust in the experience of opening up. Cause I think the hardest part too is our higher visions are very vulnerable. I think for so many of us.
we've had the experience of feeling like people put us down, that there's a lot of, you everyone can talk about, you know, the vulnerability that comes from sharing a lot of our harder, difficult moments, but actually I would say for a lot of especially powerhouse successful driven women in particular, if I put it, think souls, but especially women, there's a lot of nervousness in really owning how big and bold their visions are.
And feeling like someone can hold it, feeling like someone's not gonna go into their own dynamics related to it. And also the vulnerability, especially if there's like, in my situation, there's areas of your life where also certain things are out of alignment, or you're gonna have to shift something around. And I watched the way you held this energy of just seeing it, witnessing it, but also not getting involved in the emotional drama. And I think that's a really good way to highlight the difference of the shadow. Like when someone's in the shadow of opinion,
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There's a lot of drama frequency. If you think about it, it's like what all of our reality TV shows are fed off of. It's this permanent drama, whereas you really held me through an experience of talking about things that are not easeful in certain ways, but also were important and keeping an energetic neutrality. And I think is that what you notice for clients and for people when they're tapping into their higher visions? What do you notice are some of the key indications that it's actually a higher vision versus an ego vision?
A conditioned vision, a limiting, I need to make X amount of money a month vision. Like what do you find is the difference in how someone can like tune into themselves to know if it's the higher vision or not.
Yeah, and look, I've moved through this personally myself to where I noticed, no, I'm moving from ego right now. I'm moving from opinion or collective energy. As you as you know, I talk a lot about collective energy and, and really, you know, making sure that we are prioritizing our energy field. But that's a whole other conversation. But when it comes to a client, and when I work with a client, I do see if they're moving in that limited energy, they're usually coming in and straight away, it's like reflecting
something that they've seen. It's like, I saw so-and-so do this or, you know, I know that this is the way that I should be doing it. There's a lot of shoulds. There's a lot of it's usually like the languaging is key for me, but also just the emotion. I can feel the emotional range is quite contracted. And that's just something that I've had to, I guess, intuitively master over coaching so many women over so many years. It was something I had to learn and embody to like read the energy that I'm feeling.
But now I can very quickly see when someone is moving from that limited idea of what they think they want versus what they really desire and what their soul desires. Because there's ego desires and then there's soul desires. And my work is bringing you into the soul desire, the higher imprint of what you're here to bring into the world and create wealth through that. yeah, I think one thing to know is like for someone reading their own energy and kind of looking at like, am I choosing goals or
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setting intentions that are coming from that limited perspective is notice your energy field like how does it feel for me I feel a complete love frequency and I know that sounds cliche but truly it's like this beautiful like pure divine love energy when I'm tapped into something beyond and what I feel as well as I start to go beyond me so it's like I desire this but this feels like a ripple it feels like it's going through me I'm creating this
actually.
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This is a desire that I will manifest and experience, but it's going to be beyond me. It's like into my family. It's into my clients. It's into my clients, families and their communities and the world. It's beyond. And that's the energy I always love to feel. So I think it's interesting to like scan our energy field, scan our emotional, our emotional field and notice like, is this even mine as well? That's question I ask all the time. Is this mine? This goal mine?
is
Or is this like, I've seen everyone say they want 10K months, so I want 10K months. It's kind of like, so and so is doing 100K months, I've got to do 100K months. It's like, what does that mean to you? Where's the energy? Where's the emotional connection? Do you actually desire that? What does it mean? The desire behind the desire as well, the desire beyond the desire. It's like, we want that, but why? What's the bigger reasoning?
And that's when we start to actually move out of any of the sort of limitations or the regurgitating someone else's vision and trying to fit it into our own. And we come back into our pure channel and what we're here to do uniquely.
It's such a practice of discernment, like you said, and I think it doesn't happen overnight. And I feel like for anyone listening, it's like, just take the inhale and the exhale because you're not doing anything wrong. There's so much in our world, especially in today's world where we've got social media. There's just so much information that we input nowadays that people didn't input years ago, you know? And so can we be gentle on ourselves? Yeah, I would love. we share a little, can I invite you to share a ritual here?
Speaker 1 (35:15.584)
I love this simple practice you add to most visualizations with the bringing your ego down to zero and your soul up to a Can you please share this? Because this is something that I do within myself. So let's just paint this picture. If someone right now is in a moment where they're going, I don't know, I'm in the confusion, I'm in the distraction, I'm feeling like I'm really unsure. I need to make a decision. And I'm just really unsure what part of me is making the decision.
What would you recommend as a good way for someone to check in and could you maybe bring in a little bit of that practice that I love so much? And honestly, it's more than a practice. I would say it's a frame of thinking that's really given me a great invitation.
Yeah, yeah, I always say my practices are just my principles. Now it's just how I operate. And they do become that which is really beautiful. But yes, I think the key thing, firstly, I always bring my clients into their heart space. Because a lot of the time, we're carrying a lot of people's energy here, we're carrying a lot of thought forms, emotions that are not ours. And so one thing, a really simple, like one minute thing that anyone can do throughout the day, multiple times a day, and I do this all the time.
Especially as a mother of two and a CEO, there's a lot going on. But it's like dropping in, placing your feet, slide on the earth. I actually like to do this standing sometimes as well. Or you can sit down and then start to breathe through the heart. And heart breath has been something that has completely shifted my nervous system, my energy field. And it's actually so often we're breathing up high. It's like breathe in and out of the heart. Imagine the heart is actually
the oxygen flow coming in and out. And then what I do, once I've taken a few deep breaths through the heart, is I say, I asked my ego to turn down to zero percents. And I asked my higher self to communicate with me at 100%. And then I will also usually add in, I asked for all shared thought forms and shared emotions to be dissolved from my energy field now. And you can hear
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like the stillness, like you can actually hear just like the quietness when you do this practice. And it's something that I guide, well, as you've experienced all my clients through when we actually go in and connect with their divinity and when we bring in their vision and their next strategic moves. But it's something that you can also do just in the pockets of the day when it's, you know, you're feeling connected to everyone. And I actually like to do this before client calls, after client calls.
before I go pick up my kids, after I've got them settled when they get home, you know, just in these moments where we've just been rushing or we've been driving or we've been chatting to people, recenter. Because so much of what we have going on is actually not ours. And we've just interacted with people and that's beautiful. We want to connect, but then we need to also know how to clear and trust what is true for us.
I'm so grateful that you shared this incredible energetic, I feel like what I'm seeing it as is an energetic transition ritual. And it's so powerful because as you're speaking about it, I'm going, right, how many times are we thrown into so many different environments in a given day, different roles? Because I would imagine for you as much as, you know, Jenna as CEO, then is Jenna as mom, is Jenna as in friend, Jenna as in daughter, like there's so many different roles we just get thrown.
Hmm, mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (38:43.278)
through in a day and I love that this is simple. love that I also, I'll say for myself, I visually, like I literally when you first started guiding it for me, I see it as a visual battery. I imagine in my heart like, okay, my ego is just lovingly going down and my soul energy is coming on up and it just is so powerful. And I love the way you named it can be done at any moment in the day. I love this as a ritual for anyone who's working with people.
clients are going into an intense meeting and you just need that moment. You can do it in the bath. I love a good ritual that you can do in the bathroom at a random place or a dinner party. Or let's be real, if you're at a place with a group of people that maybe aren't your most easeful dynamic for connecting, know, something for work or whatever. I really love this and I'm so grateful because I feel like it gives people that opportunity to consistently come back to who am I? What's my truth? And we're to go into your thing about stillness in a moment. So I'm like,
course. Yeah. She's all about stillness, which for everyone so interesting because Jenna's life's work, Gene Key, her what I call your mission code. Your gift is stillness. And I have witnessed firsthand how much when you find the stillness is where the greatest strategies live and how you're a walking, breathing embodiment of this. Yet before we go there, the only thing I do just feel like I want to double click on real fast is a lot of
people in the L.A. data community are people who feel like pioneers. They feel like they're seeing things that are unique, that are really outside of lot of norms. They're paradigm shifters. They often feel like they're walking ahead of their time. And I know for you, I would know that this is probably something you've walked with intimately within yourself because I feel like anyone who holds this particular gene key code is so tuned in and tapped into this bigger vision, which can be hard at times because you're seeing this bigger vision and you're looking at the reality.
looking at the bigger vision, you know? And so I think there's two pieces here. One, what do you find for someone who has that experience when they're seeing their higher vision, how they one trust their higher vision and like really give themselves the grace to like let it land and to like see themselves as the pioneer who has it because it's theirs to have. the harder one, I think for a lot is how they deal with the misunderstanding that can often come when you see things that other people
Speaker 2 (40:56.846)
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (41:05.876)
one don't get might be intimidated by like a whole mixture of things. Yeah. Yeah. like what do you find would be important for someone in this experience to know right now?
Yes. Well, firstly, I have such a deep connection to being misunderstood. I feel like you and I have spoken about this too, just like our childhoods and the synergies we've had, and it's just like being misunderstood, not being seen, you know, and just this energy. And I think the first thing is, it is an energy that you can feel when you are tapped into a higher vision that you don't feel when you're in the kind of
Me too.
Speaker 2 (41:44.782)
I don't even like to talk about it as like higher frequencies versus lower frequencies, but just out of alignment or like seeing the limitations, like moving from limitations is a different energy. We feel contracted, we don't feel in a state of ease or flow or trust. And yet when we get this bigger vision and we feel that and we know that because we desire it and see it, it is already created. That's the other thing, right? It's already done. So I always say move like it's done because it is. Like move like it's already done, it is.
And that energy is the thing that we connect to, right? So when you can actually anchor into that, you can trust that you are receiving that because it is already created and it's coming through you and you are the channel for this. There is only you. Then, of course all the stuff's gonna come up like, well, people are gonna think I'm strange. People are not gonna get it. Well, show them. Show them, the embodiment of that.
That's something I've had to invite myself into, honestly, on a day to day basis, at times, where I moved through a big season, I feel like I've just gone through it in recent months, of bringing forward this next evolution of my body of work. And meeting again, that very familiar patterning of being misunderstood, or feeling like people are projecting their ideas of what of who I am or what I'm doing onto me. And I think that's where I came into such a deep neutrality was realizing that
I'm gonna be misunderstood whether I'm working at the local grocery shop or building this company, right? Like I'm probably gonna be misunderstood in all facets of life by some people and that's okay. If you can be okay and actually see it as simply their own conditioning and actually send them blessings and love and see them for who they are and celebrate them for who they are and not let their opinions or thoughts or projections take you off track, like that is power. That is...
divine power at play, right? But I think, you know, it's easier said than done sometimes, and we have to live it, we have to actually just decide that we're okay being misunderstood, and we allow that and we allow that it will happen at all different seasons. But the ones that will walk beside us, like create for that, create for those people, create for that bigger mission. There's a there's a energy that's been coming through me lately, which is this energy of impatience.
Speaker 2 (44:10.742)
I share that in a way where it's like, I guess I hold stillness and I hold it like a lot of like calm energy in my spaces, but I'm also really impatient about the work that we're here to do in this world, you know? And you and I have spoken about this too. It's like the time is now, like we need visionary leaders. We need these new earth leaders. I actually even call it the now earth because I think the languaging of even the new earth, it's constantly like, we're going to create something new coming.
It's now we are here now we're living this now. And to me, when I tap into that, that transcends anyone's, know, like my neighbors thoughts or my family's like conversation that I had or whatever it might be or like someone's comment that transcends that. And instead I can just see that neutrally and go, okay, that's your opinion. This is who I am. And this is who I choose to be. So I think we have to tap into something bigger and really harness that.
always loved you and I's conversations on this of it's our time. It's right now. I think there's a choice point that most of us are at right now. And I know you and I have talked about it just watching both of what we've seen with our clients, with our communities, and especially because you and I are different parts of the world. And we laugh because we're just like, wow, we could be on these opposite sides of the world and just watch how much the same choice point is meeting so many people right now. 100%. Which I think it's, what are you going to focus on right now? Are you going to focus on?
everything breaking down, all of the opinions, trying to fight all these different conversations, or are you going to be someone that's walking and holding the vision for, I love the way you named it, for the now-er, like not for this foreseeable er's in the future. What are you literally creating right now? And to your point, it's this urgency that's different than hustle, because the hustle urgency is again, kind of from this like, I've got to prove something, I got to...
It's the urgency of having a higher vision and a higher mission that matters so much to you that you can't not show up for it. And I also love this piece you named, which I think is so important, which is you're gonna be misunderstood. I know for me, that's been a huge realization when I finally realized there's nothing wrong for being misunderstood. Actually, if I just know it's part of my path, it gave me so much freedom. And I think the more you play big, I think the more you're someone paving new paths of possibility.
Speaker 1 (46:35.022)
Misunderstanding is just part of the journey. know, I feel like it's only with time. mean, you and I both have at least been in our business games for some time now that we at least just have data to show us that basically, I remember I once had this also this revelation like, right, I might just not be understood yet. And at least now I have data that I've experienced of watching things that I said, you know, years ago that people were like, what in the world?
are you talking about Lex? Now, over time, it making more sense. And I feel like you've probably had that I would imagine because I know especially when it comes to talking about women of wealth, the wealth conversation, you've been deep in this game for years. Yeah, I know your journey with it has also evolved as you've evolved. But it's probably been amazing to watch that concepts that probably for many, you know, let's just say even probably two years ago was so otherworldly for some people. And now people are
quoting Jenna's words. Now people are going, I get it, you know, and it's just their own divine timing. Has it been also you maybe just leaning back into honoring that everyone's on their own journey? Is that also how you kind of how you see things? And is that what gives you a more peace and ability to detach and not get so fixated?
Yes, I think knowing, again, the higher perspective, right of seeing that we're all on our own timeline, and we actually can't ever be on someone else's timeline. So when we have comparison, when we have projections, when we have jealousy, when we have all of these things, it's a part of our experience. And we're here to experience the full spectrum of that. But to me, I was noticing it's like, well, I can't be ahead of someone, I can't be behind someone.
because I'm on my own timeline. I'm not on their timeline walking behind them. I'm on their timeline walking in front them. Do you know what I mean? And so that to me was a huge shift for me. It was like, of course, you know, this just brings us back into the knowing that we have to harness and leverage what is coming through us and know that we are the one to bring it forward. And there is only us to bring it forward in our way.
Speaker 2 (48:46.102)
Right. And I think that that's a whole other, you know, there's so many threads that we could look at there. But there really is just power in knowing that you will be misunderstood, coming to a space of neutrality around it. And then it starts to shift, as you said, into then, now I want to like, now I want to be a part of that. You know, I remember when I first started my business, and everyone in my life was like, don't quit your job, you've got the best
job, career, lifestyle, da da da da. But I didn't feel fulfilled at all. And I went for it. And everyone panicked and everyone. A lot of people also kind of downplayed it and downplayed what I was creating. And now here I am 10 years later going well, like where would I have been if I let the judgments hold me back? Would I be unhappy? Would I be, you know, very unfulfilled? Probably. And so yeah, there's something really powerful, I think, when we can connect to that, that bigger vision and
Step in.
And just know you're not doing it alone because there's others walking the journey. And I know you are someone that I want to say like quick double click. I always love the way you talk about, know, that we are our own industry, right? We're an industry of one. And so for me, that's just such an invitation. Whenever I have these moments where I questioned doing things my unique way, I hear like, because that's the hard part too, is I think when you finally clear away a lot of the opinions, a lot of
conditioning a lot of it's there's a reason a lot of us can fix it on the external strategies there's a reason why it's easier to fix it on what's the next funnel I could do for my for my business what's the next strategy I can go figure out yeah because it lets us skip sitting in the void space of not necessarily knowing what our next step is and I think for myself it's been making to really walk in my divine power and walking with you in this has been really honoring that in-between moment
Speaker 1 (50:42.786)
where I'm in the release and I'm not yet in the knowing of everything yet, but that brings me back to what I was gonna share about your life's work. So I'm about to share Jenna's life's work, Genki, and this is what I call your mission code. It's like the key code to understanding what is the mission people are going to, one, actually experience through walking with your leadership, but also it's gonna be more what people see you doing. And Jenna's is, of course, Genki 52, which goes from the shadow of stress
to the gift of restraint, to the city, the highest frequency of stillness, like the energy she's here to bring and remind us of is stillness. And again, talk about someone who I feel like in your work, in your leadership, you're reminding us that the stress, the hustle, the efforting is actually an old outdated pattern that we don't have to opt for. And though, like I said, I've witnessed is there's that discomfort that initially comes from actually kind of having to own the restraint.
and not doing all of the things coming into this deep intentional place, which is where the stillness lives. And I mean, for you, I would imagine it's been so interesting on your own journey to just come to this place. Like, how has it been for you coming to really love the stillness? Because do you find for yourself you ever still have that discomfort or notice that you want to avoid stillness because bless ourselves, even when we know something's really good for ourselves, aren't we cute? And we just tend to do that thing where we want to
you know, make it extra complicated. So what have you seen for yourself has like really helped you as a, especially if we put it from a business owner perspective, if we've got someone listening who's like, they're plateauing or they know they're here to scale, they know they're here to do something bigger, but they're finding that they're at this plateau or even maybe like in a D growth, things are going backwards from where they want them to.
Do you find often that one of the biggest things you have to see is where are you in stress and where do we hone the stillness to actually allow the truth of what is really the bigger vision of what's next to come through? Is that what you tend to see a lot of the time?
Speaker 2 (52:45.678)
Yeah, there's a lot of anxiety that can come up with people a lot of like something's wrong. And I think one of my stillness codes is I hold the code that everything is actually always okay. And everything is always working out. And exactly you just did like a sigh. I have like clients I cry when I bring them into energy because they're like, it's like we come back into who we really are. And we remember.
everything is well, okay, everything is safe here. Everything is unfolding. Everything is already created. Move like it's done because it already is. And I think for me, like stillness and these seasons where we move through that and we do move through a season of maybe stress or lack or something doesn't feel aligned and things are shifting. A lot of my clients come to me when they're going through a big pivot. clients come into my world and their whole body of work changes in the time that we work together because I bring them into their highest.
state of purpose and what they're really here to do. And when that happens, there's always without any exception, they go through that void energy or they go through a season where it feels like nothing's working. And things are starting to like catch up to where they know that they're going, right. And we hold the stillness and the trust that it is absolutely always unfolding. And for me, that's been again, like such a
daily principle and way of being is coming back into that point. Because I know that I can make one decision in that point of stillness that will have a 10x effect on my business versus spending 10 hours trying to do, follow all these things, scrolling social media, you know, kind of bouncing all around the place. And I might have like a one, you know, one step forward.
in the results. So it's always the frequency first, but we back that up with strategy, of course, like our businesses need structure. I love structure. You and I like speak about this too. It's like, we want to build infrastructure and have things feel automated and systemized and supportive. But those moments of stillness are what direct the energy and the frequency and the choices that we make. So, you know, I always say there's 1 % tweaks to 10x the results. It doesn't have to be a big shift.
Speaker 2 (55:08.172)
these like my micro moments where we decide who we are and what our next step is that really shifts everything. So yeah, it's powerful.
I really feel that you embody so much of that code around intention. And it's why I think I was so attracted and why I've loved being in a co-creation container with you is because, I love being intentional. And a lot of that requires knowing not just what you want, but also what you don't want. And in your case, right, with the shadow being stress, that you know intimately and that you also guide other people to move through, it's like we have to get radically honest about what
create stress in our lives. have to get, have to know ourselves with so much love and kindness. Again, like you said, not to be hard on our humanness and to be gentle on it. And like you said, you can even sigh into it like I did, but also we have to just honor those parts of ourselves, but also then like come back into that centered place. And I love the way you speak about like this word choice. mean, Jenna is so potent with her word choice in general, which again comes, think from the stillness, right?
Language, clear, refined languaging comes from our clear channel. And this goes into what I'm going say, which is, I love the way you speak about blending pristine energy with precise strategy. And this is something that I have found so liberating. I know for myself on my business journey in particular, I'm like, I feel like I had to go and experiment with so many different strategies so that way then I can look at someone else and be like, you don't need to do that.
But you know, if only I had been shown, wait, your strategy is unique to you and it really can only come into alignment if you've honored your energy field and are in that pristine energy. How would you define pristine energy just for anyone listening?
Speaker 2 (56:56.758)
Yeah, to me, it feels like a point of connecting to our purest form, our purest state, which is our eternal being our divine state. To me, it's not infiltrated with any ego or anyone else's opinions, or external interference, right? It is really just our highest frequency and state of being. And then I think, you know, pristine takes on all these different meanings. Like in my spaces, I'm very big on creating pristine client spaces and like co creating spaces that feel
like, it feels clear in here, it feels pure in here, you know, that's really important as well for our highest expansion. But it really is about that channel, as you said, and like coming into that pure channel, because all our answers exist there, we hold such divine intelligence. And yet we outsource so much of our power, you know, and yes, I deeply believe in walking shoulder to shoulder and mentorship walking with a great amazing visionaries and people that have created incredible success. And
looking up.
know, the systems and the structures that are possible. I love that I geek out on business stuff all the time, but then I want to bring it forward and then bring it into me and my highest expression. I think that's what pristine energy really is. It's that intentionality of what we pour our energy into.
love this because when I hear you, what comes through for me is honor all the data around you. Don't diminish. There's a lot of data points and every person's experience is a data point. Even I would imagine, know, something you and I've talked about intimately as I've even thought about it from my business journey, I have to honor the data of running the business yet. I don't want to ever be defined by any of the data either, right? It's can I still always still let the intuitive part of me run the show? It's in little micro choice points, right? Where
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or a social media content piece that goes viral or does super well. And it's a really good data point to look at it, but to not then immediately let your entire focus be that data, right? I feel like, that's a good example for many areas of life, right? We get one data point and then because we have the one data point, the hustle, the stress shadow can make us feel like, now I've got to do everything efforting to copy that experience. And I feel like as business owners, something I've really seen with you.
that I've loved is because of your higher vision perspective, restraint, intentionalism perspective, I noticed that you like really take it all in without letting anything, even the seemingly like really shiny things feel more significant or more powerful. Like it's all from this very overarching neutral energy. So if we're thinking about a woman like myself who's at a moment where I'm at a scaling stage, right? Like I'm at the stage where I've been...
in my leadership journey for some time. And now is the scaling moment where it's been this journey of really figuring out, okay, as I think about the next evolution of my life, my vision, what do I really want this to be in a way that also feels really good, in a way that feels really authentic, in a way that gets to feel like I also have a lot of space, mostly because something you and I really bond over is being quite lifestyle first people. love our service. We love everything we do. Yet we're not going to sacrifice.
that we want to be present with our families. We're not going to sacrifice these really key things that are part of our value system. If a woman's at that scaling stage, what is one of the first things you would share that you think is really important to just inventory to really acknowledge at this moment?
Yeah, yeah. Well, I think business, if we're scaling a business and we're in that season, and this year for me is a scaling year, last year, I called it my sustaining year, I kind of go through different seasons. But this year is a big momentum one, a big expansion one. And I know that you're moving through a similar journey. And I think that the key thing is that intentionality, because business isn't really complicated. It's but we make it complicated, because we let so many layers come in.
Speaker 2 (01:00:50.818)
And we overcomplicate our messaging. We overcomplicate what we want to be known for. And I think when we're looking at scaling, firstly, it's that intentionality of what is the one thing, like what do I actually desire to be known for? What do I want to create my body of work around? That alone is going to allow anyone to scale in a different energy, a state of ease, a state of expansion, a state of joy and fulfillment versus trying to build a business when our soul and our purpose is not connecting.
And so it's really going to be that point of stillness to ask yourself, what do I want to stand in? What am I being known for here? What actually matters here? Because that immediately releases a lot of the stuff. All of my decisions in business are very simple because, well, most of them I should say, not all, but most are very simple because I'm very clear on what I'm doing and who I'm here to serve and what my body of work is. And I will know.
Thanks.
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if I'm being pulled off that because I'm like, hold on, this doesn't connect to that bigger vision. Like this isn't aligned with what I've decided. It might be bright and shiny. It might be the cool thing to do. It might be a collaboration that would like anyone else would jump for, but there's been times where I've said no to things that might seem crazy to someone else to say no to, but I know where I'm going and I stay really connected to that. But that's because of the energetic connection that I've built.
day to day, moment to moment in the compounds, right? So that I can come into that point of decision and focus. But I think that's going to be the key thing. And then the other thing I want to add in there that was just coming through was know your frequencies that you desire to create from. So know your values, like what actually matters to you. You know, we've been speaking about your words of the year as well. And I love I love, you know, playing in that and looking at the frequency of words. But for me, all of my decisions
I bring them forward into the three values of love, wealth and expansion. And if it doesn't feel loving, if it doesn't feel wealthy to me, if it doesn't feel expansive, it's a no. And so that also can be a really powerful way to like honor our wellbeing, honor our energetic state, but also scale because business is simple. When we're focused on what we're doing, there is this intentionality. And as we were talking about before, when you move from this higher frequency,
then you could spend like an hour but have 10x the result because you're very intentional on what you're using that hour for versus someone who might be kind of trying it all on and doing all these multiple things. And I've been there too. Like there's no judgment in that season. I have so been through the seasons of like, what am doing? What am I here to do? You know, not owning it fully. But once we come into that connection, then there is this, it's almost like blinders on focus.
intentionality. And then if we merge the identity with where we desire to go and operate from that energy now, decisions are quite easy to make. their strategies get to be simple. And business gets to be simple in terms of structure. And then it's really just about how we leveraging that energy, what are we actually pouring it into. So I know that's a whole lot there to go into, but just some key pieces coming through.
Speaker 1 (01:04:09.44)
I mean, I could just deeply listen to you share this all day. It's so beautiful because I'm going to end up throwing in another gene keys because I go, of course. For you, it's just what I feel in you so strongly is this commitment to values. And I think it's the step that, especially at a scaling stage, that's the thing. For me, I'll speak for myself too. I had to come back to who am I now? Because I think it's also hard because sometimes you grow so much and there's so many versions of you that have evolved.
But in this moment right now, there might be values that have shift. There might be certain things that you're knowing this next season of your life, the next version of your higher vision. There might be some shifting happening. And so when I hear you share, I feel like such a big piece that stands out to me is take a moment to really come back to what are your highest values? Because when you know them to your point, that's when priorities are so much easier to know. That's when you can get really clear about a shiny opportunity. Is this of highest service or is this?
a beautiful, shiny opportunity, but not a shiny opportunity for me right now. You know, because that's the hard part is I know people often talk about that, like the success trap is almost as you grow and as you scale, there's more data that comes your way. Yeah. How do you discern it all? How do you figure out what's actually important for you and what's not? And I was going to bring in your your meaning code. Like I can see why you're so tuned into this because your purpose, Gene Key, your purpose sphere.
which what I call your meaning code, goes from the shadow of judgment to the gift of integrity, which again, when I saw that I went, can just, for you, I can see how much you understand that like to be like the key of this key is it really gives us a clear awareness of what brings us meaning in life, what makes us feel fulfilled. Like beyond everything we do, right? There's many things we can do in life, but this is the one that's gonna give us strong indication of our deepest purpose of what we also are here to show others.
And for you, it's also interesting because you use the word divine perfection earlier in our conversation. I thought, that's so interesting because it's such a specific word choice. And that's the highest frequency of your purpose. Like it literally goes from judgment to integrity to perfection. And you perfectly expressed what that means, which it is that it's divine perfection. It's only truly of a line with you if it's actually aligned with your divine perfection, if it's still aligned with your divine power. And I feel like it's in
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today's world to stay in integrity. Like that's the essence of staying in alignment, how I interpret it, and staying alignment with your values. Yes. And not letting yourself go off the mark there. Yeah. And a lot of times with the shadow, I can see where you've had to alchemize the judgments, right? Because I can imagine there can be self judgments of, I holding back? This, but this is such a nice sounding opportunity. Or that could be
an easy cash flow or whatever it could be, but consistently operating from that energy of nothing can compromise your integrity and watching that in you and just how you live and breathe in business, how you live and breathe in your choices. Because I've asked you also an array of questions at different times about choice points you've made or moments where you've like, I find it very fascinating hearing the stories of where you said no to things. And I think that's where you really get to meet someone in their truth is not just what they say yes to, but it's often.
Who are they when they have to say no to? And I really witnessed that in you. And I've witnessed also, as you're saying, like when I think about how you've scaled, how your integrity has been so potent, but also how it's been the key code that's let you actually do what's most aligned with your divine perfection and your divine mission. And going back to everything you've spoken about, like, I feel like you speak a lot about divine millions, divine power, like what it really means to move and to create divine millions.
Thanks.
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How would you express, like for someone who's going, yeah, I want to tap into divine millions. I want to tap into that frequency. I want to call that in. What does that mean to you? Like when a woman really opens herself up for that, what's possible?
Yeah, well, that's such a juicy question. Well, firstly, I love that little Gene Keys nugget, because I had seen that Gene Key before and felt a little bit like, that's interesting. How do I decipher that? How does that play out? But of course, now over recent years, specifically, I've seen that really be the embodiment coming forward. Divine Millions to me is the fact, well, firstly, it's creating millions through our soul work. And I deeply am here to
help women generate incredible amounts of money through their soul work. Because I believe that when we do that from a divine level, meaning with integrity, with our values, creating for the now earth, not the new earth, but the now earth that's happening now, and really leading with our visions and what we're here to do and shift on a global level, I deeply believe that we should have access to a lot of money to help fund these missions and then generate.
bigger impact of what we're here to do. I've got big stuff to do in the world, know, so money is coming with me. And this is what my clients step into too. We really create that, you know, once we tap into that divine mission, the million starts to fill itself because you've given money this container to pour into. You've given it a purpose and a point of focus. But beyond that, it's millions of lives changed as well. So it has this kind of duality meaning to me, which I love.
It's divine millions financially, but it's divine millions of divine work, our divine work pouring into millions of lives. And again, like when we can tap into that and harness that bigger energy, it's going to hold us in the days where we need to cry and let it out. We're having frustration or we've had a bad client experience or something's happened or I don't know. Anything can happen in business or life and motherhood and all the things. But when we come back into again, that stillness and that
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wire and that connection. And we tap back into what we're here to do. And we know there's something bigger and we can kind of just really let all of that energy go and surrender back into that it's it's powerful. So yeah, I think there's something that speaks to so many women when I speak about divine millions. It's like they feel this frequency because it's money with meaning as well, you know, and that's what wealth is to me. It's yes, money is beautiful. But I've
worked with so many people and I've had so many conversations with people that are very wealthy. And I can see that they're energetically feel broke or energetic spiritually feel broke. It's like we should be creating money in the hands of women like you and I and listeners here. And the amazing men tuning in as well like all the people tuning in and getting incredible funding and resources into our businesses. And we also get to feel wealthy beyond money.
well and fulfilled and connected to our divinity. Like that is the mission that I have in this world. So which you can probably feel them here and you know, but it's yeah, it's beyond money. It's wealth beyond money. So it's powerful to tap into.
I just get full body goosebumps as I hear you share because this is the power, right? Because you're a woman on a mission. And so you can you're embodying so fully what I feel you're sharing, which is when you tap into this divine millions, it's an energy that's moving you beyond what Jenna and her humaneness thinks she wants or what Jenna thinks she wants to create her life. It's so beautiful to know like what we want in our lifestyle and our experience. And there's this
bigger energy that moves you to show up because you know at this time, there's no one else to wait for. You're not waiting for someone else to fix it. You're so in the energy of right now is our time. Right now, we are going to be the one creating the millions for all. I love it because I feel into your frequency. I feel that energy of true abundance, which is by you having divine millions doesn't mean that someone over here is lacking. It means we all are amplifying the frequency.
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And that's what I feel so much when I think about what you talk about with women of wealth. more every woman of wealth taps into that frequency, the more she realizes, if I'm a light of this, I can become a spotlight for someone else to tap into her frequency and then her frequency and then his frequency. Everyone can get activated by it. So I just felt your passion so fully there.
And also it's so interesting. So the last little G and Q is now good, which we weren't expecting that I would share on this, but I'm just going to drop it in anyways. Love it. Yeah. Is one of your key codes for feeling prosperous in life is you see actually beyond money as the resource. very tapped into the bigger vision, which is it's actually about connecting back to nature. It's about seeing the way nature shows us what is prosperity. And I think about how much you spend time in the garden, how you speak to your plants. I'm going, forget everything. When you're building all your goodies,
At the end of the day, Jenna feels really prosperous, but she's in her garden. She goes on her calls, she channels all her magic, and then she goes into her garden and she goes, all right. And being with my abundance of plants, this is actually what in many ways makes you feel prosperous. But I love it because even what Richard Rudd, the founder of the Gene Keys has spoken, those that have this particular code in their profile are so important at helping us with this now earth, really see that how do we see beyond money?
as the resource. So when I saw that in your profile, I went, of course, that this because it's also what deeply makes you feel prosperous. Like that's the gift in it, you're gonna be able to pass this message on. Because it's your truth, there could be someone else who could try to say the same thing as you. And this kind of is such a closure to our conversation, many ways of like kind of wrapping up so many of our threads of today, is there so many people who could try to say the same thing that you say, Jenna, but the truth is, it's not there.
deepest expression of authentic embodiment. And you are this embodiment that's here to walk around being that permission slip for others on what it really means to be like you said, well, to be wealthy beyond just money. Like, what does it mean? Like, what is the divine millions available for us all when we all tap into that frequency? And when millions are in the hands of the visionaries?
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what is possible really. So thank you. I just felt that in you and I was like, okay, hold on, we have to drop that nugget in. I'm going, guys, this is not coincidence. This is not coincidence. This is a woman living her truth. And I want to take a moment to name it. And so as a ritual, you know, I live and breathe ritual. And on this podcast, we love to of course, I know we have already sprinkled in some practices and rituals throughout our conversation, but I would love to just give one
foundational ritual. What's one ritual that you feel important right now that would feel really aligned to share as something that someone can really do to connect with, let's say, their women of wealth frequency, the divine millions in them. What's something you would recommend that they can do on a day-to-day basis to support them with that?
So there is one that I give most clients that come into my space to really help anchor initially this new frequency because we do a lot of self-concept and identity work, obviously, and energetic work. And I call it the three, three, three practice. Three minutes a day, three times a day for three days. And of course you can continue on after those three days, but it's setting the intention at the start of the three days. What is an outcome that I desire?
Maybe it's something that you want to create or call into your life or your business. Or maybe it is just embodying that frequency of the woman of wealth. And you set that intention at the start of the three days, set a reminder three times a day in your phone or somewhere that you're to see it and spend three minutes. Everyone has three minutes, three times a day. And so the thing that I love about this is we drop into the body, breathe through the heart. I would go through that process I shared earlier, turn ego down to 0%.
turn intuitive intelligence up to 100%, soul up to 100%. And then close your eyes and actually feel that state of being and occupy that energy now. So the outcome that I desire is already here. Everything's already created, so it's done. And this is who I choose to be. This is how I now feel. And what I do is actually send the energy. I imagine that energy moving into every cell, every atom, spinning all the atoms in my body, charging up the frequency state.
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And three minutes goes by really quick, by the way. You can even put a timer on it. It'll go by really quickly. And you can keep going, of course. You can go longer. But doing that throughout the day is this intentionality because so often we are pulled in all directions as we were talking about before. And I find that doing it for just three days, we can all devote to that. And it also allows the subconscious to start to see, this is a new behavior.
After three days, it's starting to accept that this is something shifting. And so it's deeply powerful. And I have so many people practice this and they love it like that. I love the 333. It's just so easy. It's so simple. It's such an easy way to start to connect in. And it will shift everything because after that three minutes, then what do I choose next? What's my next step? And it's from that different energy. So yeah, that's my suggestion.
And I love it. do this still to this day. I've been doing it for years.
definitely immediately going, yep, this is one that I am now going to go set my timer on my phone and do three times a day. So if you're listening and going to join us on this, would love for you to share with us that you're also doing the three, three, three rituals. Is that what you call it? The three, three, three. So powerful and such a ritual to embody so much of what we spoke about. And so thank you so much for this and what right now feels like the best way for someone to connect with you, to learn more, to connect with the woman of wealth frequency.
What would you recommend is a great place for people to connect?
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Yeah, well, I do have the woman above podcast. So that's that big body of work and library that I've been pouring into for years now and so many good episodes there for anyone wants to come and just like dive into my world. And then I also have just opened the doors to my new monthly membership called the source. And that is really the embodiment of woman of wealth. And it's a beautiful access point, a monthly membership and community, and really the home for all of my teachings, my activations.
business strategy behind the scenes and just a rich and lit up community that's starting this month coming in February. So I'm really excited and thrilled to open that space. And then of course, follow me on Instagram at JennaBlack.co. Send me a message if you listen to this. I always love to hear from people, hear the interviews and yeah, would love to connect.
can't recommend Jenna's work enough. feel like if you aren't already following Jenna, you're one of the accounts. mean, as you know, I've gone through quite a social media reset right now. Yeah. And it's been really fun because as I'm going through it, I'm really just unfollowing just to really honor my space and my own energetic hygiene. And you're one of the accounts that I just absolutely love staying tuned into as I really feel like what you put out there in your work is a frequency. And it's a frequency of everything we spoke about today. It's a frequency of
really standing in integrity and honoring this now earth that we're all here creating together. And thank you so much for being in this space. Thank you for all that you've really held me through the visions you've activated in me, the ways in which you've held me through really trusting the power of walking shoulder to shoulder, heart to heart with another trusting that I can really lean on someone and be held and in both my, in both all of the stories of the human experience and the emotions there.
and in my power and in my light and in my shine. You are such a gift to us all to really allow all of us to be held, to be seen and to be celebrated, which is such a gift on this planet, especially at this time. And I'm just so grateful for those of you who have tuned in, who have tuned into this conversation. We, as Jenna and Aime, we love, Jenna and I are both those really deep, sensitive souls who love connecting, would love to hear any major takeaway from this episode if you're gonna be playing with the 333 ritual.
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We're so here for it. You'll be joining me in doing it too, as I'm now going, yes, cannot wait to do this. And yeah, just would love for you to share anything that's really stood out to you, anything you're taking away and just, yeah, thank you so much, Jenna. You're just an absolute magical being on this planet. I'm so grateful for you. And I just look forward to continuing to see all that's to come on your path and all those that you impact.
Well, thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it. I love our connection, our relationship, and I'm just so excited for everything you're building here. So powerful.
Thank you so much and until next time, hope all of you elevate one intentional day at a time. Lots of heart hugs your way as always.