Hello, everybody.
Ann MazangaThis is Omitalk retail, coming to you live from Grocery shop 2024.
Ann MazangaI'm Ann Mazanga.
Chris WaltonAnd I'm Chris Walton.
Ann MazangaAnd we are here in the fusion group booth, booth number 8210.
Ann MazangaWe're still early on in the day.
Ann MazangaWe're still getting warmed up behind myself.
Ann MazangaYes, we'll be here for the next couple of days, so please make sure to stop by, say hello.
Ann MazangaWe've got lots of great interviews for you.
Ann MazangaAnd joining us now, the man of the hour, Chris Nicholas, the CEO and president of Sam's club.
Ann MazangaChris, welcome.
Chris NicholasHi.
Chris NicholasThanks for having me.
Ann MazangaWell, we're really excited to have you.
Ann MazangaThanks for being here and for joining us for grocery shop.
Ann MazangaLet's start maybe, Chris with a couple questions.
Chris WaltonYeah, I've got some questions for you.
Ann MazangaThank you.
Chris NicholasWe got you here.
Chris WaltonYou stopped by.
Chris WaltonSo your background's really.
Chris WaltonLet's start with your background.
Chris WaltonWe always like to start with the background of our guests.
Chris WaltonYou've worked on what looks like multiple continents before your current position.
Chris WaltonYou've been in the role about a year, give or take.
Chris WaltonRight?
Chris WaltonLike last September.
Chris WaltonSo tell our audience about who you are and how you came to this role.
Chris NicholasYeah.
Chris NicholasChris Nicholas, CEO and president of Sam's club.
Chris NicholasThere we go, my friend.
Ann MazangaYes.
Ann MazangaThank you.
Chris NicholasYou know, I started in retail really young.
Chris NicholasI'm from the UK.
Chris NicholasYeah, I'm from the UK.
Chris NicholasStarted at 14, working in a little grocery store in a place called Hull.
Chris NicholasIt's a place where people don't have a lot of financial means, you know, and so everyone works, and I had to work, too.
Chris NicholasAnd I found a passion really early, so I was really lucky to find that, you know, grocery or retail in its broadest sense, was just a place where you could just solve real people's problems.
Chris WaltonRight.
Chris NicholasYou also saw, like, really young.
Chris NicholasI saw really young that done well.
Chris NicholasRetail really makes a difference to families lives and, you know, that kind of mattered to me a lot.
Chris NicholasAnd here I am, lots of years later, still in it and just having a ton of fun.
Chris WaltonAnd what was the first job?
Chris NicholasYeah, I was working in the back room in a little tiny grocery.
Chris NicholasLiterally, my first job was hiding inventory from the regional manager.
Chris NicholasThe store manager was like, listen, lad, if it's going to work here, you've got to take these cages and move them out of the way so the regional doesn't see them.
Chris NicholasSo I.
Chris WaltonForecasters worst nightmare.
Chris WaltonThat's basically what you're telling us.
Chris NicholasYeah, exactly.
Chris NicholasAnd I learned right there the tricks that I needed to be aware of as I was then, you know, running stores and all of those things.
Ann MazangaYou were curious, but only about the right things at the right time, right?
Ann MazangaYes.
Chris NicholasThere we go.
Ann MazangaGot it, got it.
Ann MazangaWell, you're doing one of the keynotes today.
Chris NicholasYeah.
Ann MazangaTell us what you hope the audience will learn and take away from that session.
Chris NicholasI'm really excited about talking to the industry about how we think about pioneering the future of retail.
Chris NicholasI think it's important that we are all focused on what the future of industry looks like in serving people that need to be served.
Chris NicholasAnd so we'll talk about the importance of being an innovator, being a pioneer, and we're talking about three big areas.
Chris NicholasThe first is the importance of digital engagement.
Chris NicholasSo that's both online, using your phone, but it's also in the club.
Chris NicholasSo we've got this really cool innovation called Scan and go, where like, over a third of our members today are scanning their own items, checking out online, and then we've got this other innovation with these computer vision arches, where people can just walk straight out.
Chris NicholasSo if you scan your own items, then you can.
Chris NicholasThe computer vision arches will look at what's in your basket, compare it to your receipt, and they'll allow you to just walk out.
Chris NicholasThat's really cool.
Chris NicholasSo you get that innovation online, but you also get it in club.
Chris NicholasAnd that, mixed with e commerce, is a huge, like, powerhouse of growth for us as a business.
Chris NicholasThe other two innovate.
Chris NicholasThe other two things we're focusing on are member engagement.
Chris NicholasSo what experiences can we create for our members?
Chris NicholasAnd finally, just great innovation with great items, which is member's mark.
Ann MazangaYes.
Chris NicholasSo membersmark's a brand we're really proud of.
Chris NicholasIt's really resonating with people.
Chris NicholasAnd so it's like, innovation, innovation, innovation.
Chris NicholasAnd all three of those are connected to growth.
Chris NicholasIf you're doing a good job and innovating, generally growth comes.
Ann MazangaDo you have any favorite members, mark new products right now that we should check out?
Chris NicholasYeah, it changes weekly.
Chris NicholasIt should change weekly, though, because you want that innovation pipeline.
Ann MazangaEvery time I come in to Sam's.
Chris NicholasI want to be real.
Chris WaltonPrice is a factor in what you like too, so you're probably changing prices regularly too.
Chris NicholasAnd, you know, you know, actually EDLC and EDLP is really important to us.
Chris NicholasWe're not promotional business.
Chris NicholasWe have a limited number of items, about 4000 in the club.
Ann MazangaYeah.
Chris NicholasAnd every item has to sell enough that you can sell it on a pallet.
Chris NicholasSo it needs to be really good item, really good value.
Ann MazangaYeah.
Chris NicholasAnd we love national brands, by the way.
Chris NicholasYeah.
Chris NicholasAs long as they are great value and as long as you're getting great innovation.
Chris NicholasAnd that's what Sam's club brings along with members, Mark.
Ann MazangaRight.
Chris NicholasSo, you know, I don't know.
Chris NicholasI always, like, go to a food item because I love food, and I love all come along with it.
Ann MazangaAs opposed to what, a clean supply?
Ann MazangaPots and pans?
Ann MazangaI don't need those right now.
Chris NicholasI know.
Ann MazangaLike, what food.
Ann MazangaI need to go in there, get lots of.
Chris NicholasYeah, that's.
Chris NicholasPlease do.
Chris NicholasPlease buy lots of it.
Chris NicholasWhat I would tell you, funnily enough, before we get into my favorite item is when you talk to members about the things they love.
Chris WaltonOh, yeah.
Chris NicholasLike, why are you a sam's club member?
Chris NicholasThey'll be like, it's the trash bags.
Chris NicholasThey are like, they are the best trash.
Chris NicholasI'm like, they're are good trash bags.
Chris NicholasI agree with you.
Chris NicholasOr paper products or water.
Ann MazangaYeah.
Chris NicholasBut I I love the inspiration of these new items.
Chris NicholasAnd we've got this at Christmas set right now.
Chris NicholasWe get, we get into seasons early.
Chris NicholasWow.
Chris WaltonYeah.
Chris NicholasReally?
Chris NicholasYeah.
Chris NicholasWe're almost out of Halloween now.
Chris NicholasWe like to get in early and get out early and.
Chris NicholasSmart merchandising.
Chris NicholasIt's smart merchandising.
Chris NicholasOur merchandise is a brilliant, we've got this thing called the prismatic display.
Chris NicholasOh, Boyden, it looks like, imagine a winter wonderland in your front yard that has a seven foot snowman, a big arch that looks like it's made of crystal.
Chris NicholasYou name it.
Chris NicholasPrismatic.
Chris NicholasYou should look at it.
Chris WaltonPrismatic.
Chris NicholasIt is selling out faster.
Chris NicholasYou're going to have to be quick.
Chris NicholasBut that Christmas inspiration that our merchants have just innovated, it didn't exist.
Chris NicholasThey made it exist.
Chris NicholasWe sold out in a hot minute last year.
Chris NicholasWe doubled the buy.
Chris NicholasIt's gonna sell out in a hot minute again.
Chris NicholasSo we're feeling excited about it.
Ann MazangaCheer in a, in a box.
Chris NicholasChristmas joy.
Chris NicholasChristmas cheer in a box.
Chris WaltonNice.
Chris NicholasAnd in your front yard.
Chris WaltonAll right, well, so, getting back to the joy of why we're all here at grocery shop, I got off on a tangent.
Chris WaltonTechnological innovation.
Chris NicholasYeah.
Chris WaltonI want to, I want to circle back to what you said, too, because I think it's important.
Chris WaltonYou gave the statistic on scan and go.
Chris WaltonOne third of shoppers that's across the chain.
Chris WaltonThat's like 600 stores, give or take it, right?
Chris NicholasYep.
Chris WaltonIs that right?
Chris WaltonThat's the right number.
Chris NicholasSo.
Chris WaltonSo one third of shoppers are using scan and go.
Chris NicholasYeah.
Chris WaltonTo do their shopping inside a Sam's club store.
Chris WaltonYeah, that's important.
Chris WaltonSo then the next part I want to double click into is you've made a couple headlines.
Chris WaltonYou've mentioned them already to some degree, but then you had one that came out today that we're very keen on understanding.
Chris NicholasSo.
Chris WaltonSo first off is I want you to talk more about the computer vision receipt checks.
Chris NicholasYeah.
Chris WaltonHow does that work?
Chris WaltonAnd then secondly, you also open up a new store.
Chris WaltonYou are planning to open up a new store in the coming weeks, that it basically takes the checkout lanes away completely.
Chris WaltonSo how the hell does that work?
Chris WaltonSo the floor is yours, my friend.
Chris WaltonChris.
Chris NicholasI appreciate that.
Chris NicholasLook, here's the idea, is that our job is to take friction out of members lives.
Chris NicholasAnd so every day that we get to take friction out of a member's life, we give them back time, which is really exciting because that's the thing they most want.
Chris NicholasAnd so what we decided years ago was we needed to go on a journey of innovation to solve our members problems.
Chris NicholasSo the first thing we did was scan and go.
Chris NicholasScan and go was the ability for people to just take control of their own shopping and, and.
Chris NicholasBut members told us that we don't want any friction in our lives, and we've got friction in other environments where we have to scan our way into a club, we have to stand at a checkout, we have to scan on the way out.
Chris NicholasAnd our job is to say no.
Chris NicholasWe want to give you great items and great prices, but we also want to give you great experiences.
Chris NicholasAnd so over the years, we've learned a lot about computer vision.
Chris NicholasComputer vision is something that if you can get it right, you can really give joy to a lot of customers and a lot of members by taking friction out of their lives.
Chris NicholasAnd I'm going to give you an example.
Chris NicholasSo if you, if you do some shopping and you buy 30, 40 items, if you're queuing at the checkout, that it's just not a joyous experience.
Chris WaltonNo, it's not.
Chris NicholasIt just isn't.
Chris NicholasNo.
Chris NicholasIf you're walking around and scanning items yourself, you can also see what those items are all about.
Chris NicholasYou can investigate them as you're walking around.
Chris NicholasAnd then once you're done, you just check out on your phone, you just swipe right.
Chris NicholasYeah.
Chris NicholasAnd then you walk to, you just walk to these arches and there's nobody there other than nobody there checking you.
Chris NicholasBecause what the computer vision does, it says, let's take a look at all the receipts out there.
Chris NicholasLet's take a look at all of the items on your basket, there's no face check, there's no biometrics.
Chris NicholasIt just looks at what's in your basket, and it compares that to all the receipts that are outstanding.
Chris NicholasAnd as long as it can compare the two and see everything in your basket, it gives the validation that you're good to go.
Chris NicholasAnd so then the members job is to just walk out and feel good about Sam's club.
Chris NicholasNow, that didn't happen overnight.
Chris WaltonNo.
Chris NicholasLike, we needed to do a lot of work on the engineering and on the.
Chris NicholasOn the computer vision in the background.
Chris NicholasAnd the reason we got there was we did a lot of work in the back end on the associates work.
Ann MazangaOkay.
Chris NicholasBecause you can't give all of these exciting experiences to members without sorting what the associates are doing and taking friction out of their life and taking mundane tasks out of their life.
Chris NicholasAnd so we started a long time ago with this computer vision journey with our associates work with inventory management.
Chris NicholasAnd so what we've got is we've got these floor scrubbers.
Chris WaltonRight.
Chris NicholasThat go around the club.
Ann MazangaOh, yeah.
Chris WaltonI.
Chris NicholasAnd they take 23 and a half million pictures a day of what inventory we've got up in the steel and on the shop floor.
Chris NicholasAnd so we know what everything looks like.
Chris NicholasWe know where everything is.
Chris NicholasAnd we've taken 100 million tasks out of our associates hands.
Chris NicholasAnd so they get to.
Chris NicholasThey get to do two things.
Chris NicholasOne is they have a better life because they don't have all this mundane work.
Chris NicholasAnd the second thing they do is they get to invest time in the members by giving them an elevated experience, by helping them out with their problems.
Ann MazangaRight.
Chris WaltonAnd so.
Chris WaltonSo that's.
Chris WaltonSo basically, if I say what, wrap.
Chris NicholasUp what you said.
Chris WaltonIn a nutshell, you're taking all this information that you're getting by way of the scan and go application, the computer vision, where it's implementing the store and it's correlating it together.
Chris NicholasYeah.
Chris WaltonTo provide the shopper with the best experience they can.
Chris WaltonAnd you guys are taking that to the next level.
Chris WaltonAnd I think it's Grapevine.
Chris NicholasGrapevine.
Chris WaltonGrapevine, Texas.
Chris WaltonAnd when does the store open?
Chris NicholasYeah, so we've got this club at Grapevine in Texas, just near DFW.
Chris NicholasIt's going to open next week on the 17th, and it brings together what the future should look like for Sam's club.
Chris NicholasOkay, so you've already paint the picture, my friend.
Chris WaltonYes, paint the picture.
Chris NicholasYou're going to walk into this club, and it's a fully digital experience.
Chris NicholasSo you walk in, and the first thing you're going to notice on your left hand side is there are no registers.
Chris NicholasSo we expect 100% digital engagement.
Ann MazangaWow.
Chris NicholasIn that club, which means everyone's shopping, scan and go, and it means everyone's walking through those arches.
Chris NicholasNow, we're going to have lots of associates there helping people.
Ann MazangaRight.
Chris NicholasBecause, you know, whilst we've got a lot of people that are digitally engaged, there's going to be some people that we just got to help them get on that journey, but there's a lot more than that.
Chris NicholasSo because you don't have registers, you have space where the registers used to be.
Chris NicholasWe're going to have some amazing online to offline experiences.
Chris NicholasBig things that you can buy online where you can interact with those items, you can order them online.
Ann MazangaRight.
Chris NicholasThat's really exciting.
Chris NicholasWe call.
Ann MazangaYou can do that on the app.
Ann MazangaRight?
Chris NicholasYou can do all of that on.
Ann MazangaThe app where you're going to order.
Ann MazangaExactly.
Chris NicholasSo that's exciting.
Chris NicholasWe've got a lot of space dedicated to online pickup and online fulfillment.
Chris NicholasWe've got six and a half thousand square feet of space where our associates can pick orders, they can get ready, stage the orders ready for pickup.
Chris NicholasSo we expect the online pickup and delivery to be huge there.
Chris WaltonRight, great point.
Chris NicholasWe've got some really cool innovations that only a retailer would care about.
Chris NicholasMaybe like more refrigeration space.
Chris NicholasWe've got some cool innovations in our fresh area, like a big sushi island, which we're really excited about.
Chris NicholasPeople love sushi.
Chris NicholasAnd by the way, it's also really exciting to be able to connect with the community.
Chris NicholasSo as you walk in on your right hand side, there's a huge big picture that's been painted of the community by a local artist.
Chris NicholasSo we just feel like this connection with the community is something that's really elevated too.
Ann MazangaWell, I was just going to ask, you know, 100% digital adoption in this one.
Ann MazangaAll the other clubs are seeing a third of members using the app.
Ann MazangaI have to ask because I know that there's probably retailers and brands listening who are curious, like, how did you make that decision to go all in on 100% digital for this one, knowing that it might alienate some consumers, but it's really the way of the future.
Chris NicholasIt's really a good question.
Chris NicholasWe are seeing rapid adoption of our scan and go and have just walk out anyway.
Chris NicholasAnd what we found is that just by listening to our members about what do they want us to do?
Chris NicholasAnd members are just saying that the less friction that I have in my life, the happier I am.
Chris NicholasThe NP's when you use your scan and go and just walk out is off the charts.
Chris NicholasI think it's 14% higher than before the scan and go arch.
Chris NicholasThe just the exit arches were in place.
Ann MazangaRight.
Chris NicholasWe're seeing 64%.
Chris NicholasSo just about two thirds of our members having frictionless exit just walking out.
Chris WaltonWow.
Chris WaltonOkay.
Chris Nicholas64%.
Chris NicholasAnd that's of all.
Chris NicholasThat's not even.
Chris WaltonThat's everywhere.
Chris WaltonRight.
Chris NicholasAnd, you know, we kind of love the renewal rate and the amount that people spend when they're digitally engaged, which is using all of this, significantly higher if you're a digitally engaged member.
Chris NicholasSo that means you use scan and go.
Chris NicholasYou walk through the arch and you shop online.
Chris NicholasYou spend three times what a non digitally engaged member spends.
Ann MazangaSo you're paying off the experience.
Ann MazangaLike the thesis maybe, of what you're saying is that, yes, it's maybe this first time that you're learning to use the app, but you're really unlocking a much more frictionless experience for you.
Chris NicholasAnd the members want it and when they use it and they never go back.
Ann MazangaYeah.
Chris NicholasAnd what's really interesting is whether it's your Gen Z's all the way through to the greatest generation, whether it's the people that earn lease to the people that earn most, whether wherever you are geographically, everyone is involved in this.
Chris WaltonRight?
Chris WaltonRight.
Chris WaltonThose types of numbers, they must be, right?
Chris NicholasYeah.
Chris WaltonSo I'm curious, like, what's in the water at Sam's club?
Chris WaltonLike, what is the.
Chris WaltonWhat is in the water that makes you so unafraid to do these types of things?
Chris WaltonWe were talking before we even got started.
Chris WaltonLike, you had Sam's club now, which was a scan and go only store for a while.
Chris WaltonIt's still in existence now you're doing a checkout list store.
Chris WaltonSo a cashier list store, so to speak, what gives you the confidence to do that and have the clairvoyance to say, you know what?
Chris WaltonThis makes sense.
Chris WaltonThis matters, and we're going to learn from it.
Chris NicholasYeah.
Chris NicholasI think we are a people led, tech powered business.
Chris NicholasSo if you're grounded in solving people's problems and you're listening to them, it gives you a lot of confidence for making changes.
Chris NicholasThe second thing is it's okay to just fail as long as you're learning.
Chris NicholasSo Sam's now, which was our original store innovation club, which is still there and still innovating, a lot of what we're seeing today, including scan and go, including the exit arches, and including all of the work that's made our associates lives better.
Chris NicholasThat all started there, but we might have had a hundred things that didn't work, but every single time, we just learned.
Chris NicholasAnd we learned to move fast.
Ann MazangaRight?
Chris NicholasSam's club has always been the sort of tip of the spear on innovation within Walmart, and it's certainly going to continue that way.
Ann MazangaWell, Chris, as we close out this conversation and we think about what you have in store for the rest of 2024 and in your role for 2025, what else are you excited about besides the prismatic, the uber prismatic Christmas in a box display that I can go get right now?
Chris NicholasYou know, it's.
Chris NicholasYeah, I mean, I do love that.
Chris NicholasAnd you should go and get it.
Ann MazangaYou've done as soon as you can.
Chris WaltonWhile supplies left, while supplying.
Ann MazangaI gotta open my app and order it right now for pickup when I get home.
Chris NicholasYes.
Chris NicholasI mean, you can.
Chris NicholasYou can.
Chris NicholasYou will continue to see a steady stream of innovation with digital engagement with members, Mark, and with a lot of the work we're doing on, on the elevated associate and member experience.
Chris NicholasBut I think what I'm most excited about in the next few months.
Ann MazangaYeah.
Chris NicholasIt's just the joy that we're going to be bringing to our members.
Chris WaltonRight.
Chris NicholasThe items that we're selling are ready for.
Chris NicholasI mean, you know, we are excited about giving a high quality Christmas.
Chris NicholasAnd so let me just talk about one of them, which is a Thanksgiving dinner.
Chris WaltonOkay?
Chris NicholasSo we've got a $100 Thanksgiving dinner to feed ten people, and this is like, it's an elevated experience.
Chris NicholasThis is not $100 for ten people.
Chris NicholasAnd, you know, it's kind of good enough.
Chris NicholasThis is like an amazing turkey.
Chris NicholasGreat stuffing, great veggies, a great dessert.
Chris NicholasI mean, all the things that you want to be part of your Thanksgiving, and it's all for under a $100.
Chris NicholasSo, you know, if there was ever a reason to be a member of Sam's club, that would be one of them.
Chris WaltonRight?
Chris WaltonWow.
Chris WaltonIt's very convincing, actually.
Chris NicholasIt's really good.
Chris NicholasYou should try it.
Chris WaltonYes, I think I might.
Chris WaltonI think I might do that.
Chris WaltonWell, Chris, thank you so much for stopping by and spending time with us today.
Chris WaltonAgain, Chris Nicholas, the president and CEO of Sam's club.
Chris WaltonThanks to the fusion group for supporting our work here today.
Chris WaltonCome on by.
Chris WaltonWe're going to be here all day doing interviews with all kinds of retail executives.
Chris WaltonWe're in booth a two 10.
Chris WaltonAnd until next time, and be careful out there.