Soon as you wake up and decide that this

doesn't feel right for me, I don't want this. I want

something else. I want to feel and experience my life in a

completely different way from what I've been told. Then at

times, society can label you as crazy or, well, you're just

That's insane. How could you do that? Like you're saying you

have kids, you have responsibilities, you have all

of these things like, how could you just pick up your life and

move somewhere else? But to me, I think if we can step away from

this old construct that I feel like, planetarily, spiritually,

collective consciousness right now is starting to shift from

and realize that we don't need to live that way anymore, and

that we can create a new world for ourselves, for our own

families.

Hello, my loves. Before you get into this really

special, really beautiful conversation and episode, I

wanted to tell you a little bit about Juliana, in case you don't

know her, Juliana Spike is a globally recognized yoga

teacher, Pilates wellness, author, and a visionary and co

founder of boho beautiful. So I know so many women follow boho

beautiful and do yoga and pilates online with them. She

and her husband, she shares the story, but they started in a van

traveling around, recording videos, and they have now have

over 3 million subscribers on YouTube, and have had over half

a billion views. So they're really, really making an impact

in the world. And Juliana, my I mean, one of my favorite things

about her, we met in Costa Rica. We're both living, I kind of

like the escape pandemic, living in Costa Rica, following our

hearts, following our unscripted lives in 2021 and our paths

crossed, and that's where we connected for the first time.

But she really is the embodiment, embodiment inside

out, of wellness and of love and of heart and of beauty, and she

just has created a massive movement. And one of my favorite

things about this conversation that I hope sparks you on your

own unscripted path is that her unscripted path still includes

having a husband. She has two beautiful little children, a

baby and a toddler, and, you know, is still living

unconventionally and following our heart and has created a

massive movement based on really her purpose in the world. So my

my intention with having her on is to expand and inspire you

that it's possible to be unscripted in so many ways, and

I will continue to have guests on that represent different

options and different ways that women can really live a life

that's in alignment with their own hearts. Juliana truly has

the energy of an angel, and I absolutely love connecting with

her. So I hope you enjoy this beautiful conversation, spread

it and share the episode with all the women you know who need

a little boost and a reminder that we can follow our hearts

and we can live an unconventional, unscripted life

and go our own way and enjoy we'll see you soon.

Hello, beautiful. Welcome to the new truth podcast. Hello,

Juliana,

hello, hello, hello. Welcome

back. Yes, it's been a while. It has. I was

trying to think, um, this morning, I was trying. I didn't

look up the episode, but I had you and mark on, maybe two years

ago.

Yes, I think it was maybe a little over two.

It was, we were in Costa Rica. I remember doing the yes episode

with you. So that was, yeah, I would say, over two years ago,

which is crazy. I feel like so much has happened since the last

time we spoke. We

have a lot to catch up on. We'll do it here on the

live, live on the

podcast. But yeah, it's funny, as I find that

also through social media, it's even though so much time has

passed since we've even connected. But because we follow

each other, and you kind of stay up to date, of like, what all of

us are up to, you don't feel as much of a a disconnection. Or

like, Oh, my God, two years, you know what else happened? It's

like, I kind of feel like I have an idea, like, I know you've

been in Africa, I know you've been in Kenya. Like, I, you know

what? I mean, you're in Greece, you're doing your thing, your

beautiful retreats, all of the stuff. It's like, I, you know,

obviously not to the depth of what social media doesn't show

but it's still a wonderful thing that through this digital world,

we don't feel as disconnected as we would have otherwise.

So true. I feel like that is, yeah, I mean, with

everything, there's there's gifts, and there's shadow sides

to everything. Um, yes, yes, yeah, that's totally the gift of

of social media. I love that. I love meeting. I imagine you

might feel similar, but I based on traveling so much and doing

what I do and being who I am, I meet people everywhere. And I

love that ability to to meet people and have I think of all

the people I met on the on the farm during. In those four

months that I was there in Kenya, and how I get to stay

connected to them, and what they're up to now. And it's

yeah, these connections don't just fall to the white side

because you see people's lives and their pictures and their

videos. It feels Yeah, like you said, like you're really still

plugged in. Yeah, yeah. You

still stay connected, in a sense, right?

Which is, which is really, really beautiful, and yeah, and

I continue to be inspired by each other as well. And I think

that's really cool, right? It's because, you know, we we get

drawn to certain people for specific reasons, not just that,

oh, you need somebody, but it's like, there's a reason you need

somebody. And then you click, and then you feel your energy,

kind of vibe with each other, where you want to continue that

connection and relationship and friendship, right? And there,

you know, through those reasons, whether that is inspiration or

admiration, whatever it is, we continue to have that energy as

we continue to follow them through social media and choose

to, you know, to stay connected in that way. So

that's beautiful. Yeah. Choose the social media.

We do love a little part of you. I, as you were talking, I'm

like, Oh my gosh, I just pictured what's what was that

restaurant? I went there all the time, but I can't remember

what's called. Where we met the first night in, oh yeah.

Love burger.

Yeah, love burger. Oh my gosh, that night, and

then, and then I remember walking on the seawall in

Vancouver, in Yaletown with you, and Mark, yeah, because we

were visiting for like two days, my friend's

wedding was happening, and that was when Xavier was still little

young. He was only, like, was it seven months old or something?

So that was like, three and a half years ago now, which is,

but, yeah, I know it's crazy. It's crazy how much life has

moved and shifted, in a way, since we lost each other.

It's beautiful. Well, I feel like we're both

modeling this, living an unscripted life so well. And I I

feel like, I mean, just astrologically speaking, moving

into the Aquarian Age versus Capricorn is so aligned to to

because it's like the breakdown of all the old systems. For

those of you who don't know astrology, but I'm sure I've I'm

not an astrologer, but I've mentioned it before, breakdown

of old systems, and also this like collaborative community,

new new paradigms, new ways of being, new ways of thinking,

big, dreaming, big energy that comes with the Aquarian Age that

we're in now. And so, yeah, I'm so excited. The reason we we

came up with this, this title, and this topic is just you and I

were just catching up and just to catch everyone else up. And

we were like, oh my god, this is the topic that we need to talk

about today. Is unscripted life. Because, like you said earlier,

so many people desire it right now, and so many people are

feeling, I know a lot of my clients, are saying, like, Oh,

I'm fed up with America, I'm fed up with Canada, I'm fed up with

wherever they live. And they're really ready to take the risk

and to but often they think, okay, it's just you that has a

magical life, like, I could never do that, and I have kids,

or I have a partner, or I have and so if it's so great to have

you here to represent you know, someone who has an amazing

relationship and two beautiful children, and that you're also

living this really unscripted, following your hearts, following

your truths life. So do you want to tell us a little bit about

it. Share a little bit about your story.

Yeah, gosh. Where do I begin? I mean, I

think just to speak to what you're saying, you know, you're

saying astrologically, like, there we're going through this

different shift in time. And even, you know, you're looking

at it from the yogic perspective, you know that they

talk about, like we're just coming to the end of Kali Yuga,

right? And Kali Yuga, which is kind of that unsettling era of

war and hardship and difficulty. And I feel like I feel it, and I

see it now that we're transitioning into this new

stage, because there's this slight, like, almost Mass

Awakening that's happening. And that's happening not only from

people starting to get a little bit more curious about

spirituality, wellness, well being. You know, you just see

the new things kind of starting to become more mainstream, but

it's also people waking up to this idea, like they're saying

that they don't want to continue to live the life they've lived

for their whole since, since they were born, or since they've

been kind of told this is the way you're supposed to do it.

You're supposed to go to school, get a degree, go to university,

get married, have children, have a home, have a mortgage, like

there's like, this thing you have to do. And as soon as you

wake up and decide that this doesn't feel right for me, I

don't want this. I want something else. I want to feel

and experience my life in a completely different way from

what I've been told then. At times, society can label you as

crazy or, well, you're just That's insane. How could you do

that? Like you're saying you have kids, you have

responsibilities, you have all of these things like, how could

you just pick up your life and move somewhere else, but to. Me,

I think if we can step away from this old construct that I feel

like, planetarily, spiritually, collective consciousness right

now is starting to shift from and realize that we don't need

to live that way anymore, and that we can create a new world

for ourselves, for our own families. And that starts with,

one, is it just a decision as to decide, no, I want a different

life. And two, is looking at what you have to offer in the

world and how, especially in this, as we talked about digital

world that we live in now, there's so many more

possibilities of making an income, of sustaining yourself

or just creating a different life than, let's say, even our

parents might have had, you know, 40 years ago, 50 years

ago, and so you know, to talk about our story, I mean for

myself and and my family and everything it really be. We were

really gifted. Because we're mostly gifted. We were blessed

in a way, because when we started Bova beautiful, and we

have an online digital wellness brand, you know, we started when

it was just the beginning. At that time, it was like two, 2016

like YouTube was just starting to kind of yeah happen. And, you

know, we had the desire that we wanted to create a different

life for ourselves. And we were living in Toronto at that time,

and I felt like I was physically being suffocated by that life,

you know, working two jobs. I didn't have children, I had a

dog and Mark and, you know, we had a home and everything. But I

felt myself like I was drowning, like it was just I wasn't

feeling fulfilled, I wasn't feeling like I was growing.

Things were starting to not align anymore, like I, you know,

I remember having to have a second job, and I was a

bartender at, like a bar, and just feeling this resistance

every time I had to even go into that space, because I'm like,

this isn't meaning, or I didn't align with what I want to do and

how I want to live my life. And I remember it just became a

choice after that with Mark, because Mark was feeling

similarly in his own ways. And I'm like, Well, look, we want to

see the world, we want to travel, we want to experience

life in a new way. And so let's find a way for ourselves. And at

that point, you know, for us, the ideas came through, creating

content online. So, you know, as a yoga teacher and doing Pilates

and that that was my passion, really. And so it was just, you

know, I've had so many requests of my students asking if I offer

anything online. This is back in the day when there wasn't as

much online things, yeah. And I was like, let's just, like, buy

a camera and just start creating something. And so we did, you

know, we just started shooting in, like, Mark's office at that

time, and, like, behind a white wall. And then we started to

travel and then start incorporating, like, anytime you

would go, let's just say we went to Thailand and like, okay,

we're in Thailand for one week. You know, it wasn't like we

could travel for a month, and then we just went for one week.

And then we would, you know, take that camera and start

creating little videos on the beach and and doing yoga classes

and giving that opportunity for people to experience the the

cultures and the different ways of life that we were

experiencing through our travels, and so as a backstory

that's, you know, a short way, because it's definitely a longer

story than what I'm saying. But one thing led to another, that

we were then able to create a business, an online business,

that allowed us that opportunity, to be able to leave

the city to not be beholden to a job, physically in one space,

that our job then and our passion and we felt like our

service to the world was able to sustain us to be able to travel

and start to experience life, which then opens your eyes even

more to understanding like, Wow, there's So much to this

beautiful world where living in this one city and city that you

felt like deep down, the suffocating you is not the way

life is too short to allow yourself to live that way, you

know. And yeah. And so for us, you know, our business done well

that we've been able to continue that lifestyle. And then now we

have two children, four year olds and a 10 month old. And,

you know, we lived in Costa Rica for a long period of time,

thinking that that was going to be a place where we want to

raise our children and kind of call home, because in the remote

town, a yoga town, you know, there's nature, it was very much

removed from the typical kind of cultural society that, let's

say, big cities in Canada at that time are are, but that also

shifted, and that also changed. And then, you know, as

everything in life, it ebbs and flows, and that energy didn't

align with us anymore. There's certain things that made us not

feel safe raising our family anymore in that town. And then

somehow, again, we surrendered to took away life was guiding

us, and somehow Barbados, out of all places, never expected

Barbados to be a place we would call home, but being one thing

after the other just aligned. And we arrived here, and then we

started meeting different, like minded families and. You know,

other families of small children. So, like our children

can become have, can start to create, like a community for

themselves. And it's really, really beautiful on this island.

Is amazing to raise children because, like, it's safe, it's

beautiful in terms of the nature the water so calm they can, you

know, examine like such a swimmer now, and love the ocean.

You go snorkel with the turtles here, and it's just, it's a

different, a different lifestyle, you know, and now

that we're here, it's, I feel very, very blessed that we're

able to, you know, create this life for our kids. And it just

started from us making that one decision, to put ourselves out

there, out in the world, you know, start creating content and

sharing it with the world, not knowing if it would connect or

not, because you really don't know. You know first time you

post that video,

and I can already hear like when you first I mean,

thank you so much for sharing that beautiful and I know

there's so many nuances to your story and but I just like as you

started, I thought, Wow, what a great way suffocating like that

is what it feels like when you're going against your own

truth. It's either you have like, insane anxiety that wakes

you up every night, that was me back in the day, like I'd wake

up in the night, like freaking out with anxiety, and it's

because I was lying to myself, or feeling suffocated every time

you go into the place that's so that you've outgrown. Really,

it's just part of yourself that you're ready to to let go of so

the new parts can be born that relevant. I feel like so because

we have to be we have to be willing to let the old self die

so we can be reborn over and over again.

100% especially I find as a woman,

there's we go through so many chapters of death and rebirth,

yes, and you know, you look at it one way, like, as a mother, I

feel like I've died twice and birthed myself two times because

I've had two children, but outside of even just being a

mother, like there's chapters in our life, like, you know, you

were speaking earlier, like you feel like you've outgrown a

relationship where you don't feel like you're able to evolve

anymore with this person, and it's not anything against them,

but it's like, yes, this beautiful, deep connection that

you have within yourself with your own truth, knowing that

like this isn't allowing me to feel that expansion that I need

to continue within my evolution on this earth. Because really, I

all of us like we're we're souls in these physical forms and

physical bodies, and we're here to expand and to learn and to

grow. And all of the relationships and circumstances

and things that life in universe brings our way is for that

growth. And so I find if we're not honoring that growth, if

we're not listening to it and and keeping ourselves stagnant,

you're we're doing more harm, not just spiritually, but also

physically too. Like you hear people start to get sick, or

they start to feel like this, ailments like or worse. Even you

know, sicknesses, cancer, things can arise, and it's because

they're just emotionally unable to allow themselves to grow to

release, to let go, to let go exactly, to kill a part of them

so that a new part of them can be reborn. Yeah, exactly. And

I think, like, whenever I'm working with women,

and they're they're like, in the ping pong game, in their mind,

should I stay or should I go? Should I, you know, whether it's

staying in Canada and or going, which is where, yeah, we're

living, or should I stay in this relationship or go, should I

say? Which, if we're in our mind, it's just going to play

both sides of the the game. It's a ping pong game. It's never

going to stop. And then we ask a million people, and then we get

all confused and muddled. But whenever I ask a woman to close

her eyes and connect with her heart, the truth is, always

there, always It's wild. It's even if she's in agony for

months and months, it's clear when she closes her eyes and

when she opens them, she might not allow herself to follow it,

but this is so important, I think, like, who would you be,

and what would your life be if you hadn't had the courage? And

I could also hear people's minds or saboteur in my words, ego

mind, saying things like, oh well, Juliana could do it and

mark because they got in early YouTube, they got in early so

they created a successful business because of that. But

then people now will say, Yeah, or it's, it's too late to do it

now. But that's not true. The different what you did, it was

actually more risky to do it back then. Right now, we have so

much evidence and information that you can create success

online, the key real success where it's aligned with your

heart and your vibration, that's when we really make an impact,

not just monetary success, but actual like fulfillment in what

you do, and being satiated by your work and your purpose is

Like actually listening to that heart, whether it's moving

somewhere or saying yes to a new path or whatever, whatever the

thing may be, you cannot lose when you're following your heart

like it's going to lead you. It's not a linear path. It's not

going to happen overnight, but it's going to lead you in the

right direction, even if it's the opposite of what your mind

thinks. Is the direction is going to be 100%

and, you know, just to comment what you're

saying, like, yes, for us, this was the path for us. And we

were, say, lucky, in a sense, at that point, that we were early,

but we continue to do our business. And it's not getting

any easier. Like you're in this huge sea of competition, and

there's 1000s of yoga apps and 1000s of wellness things

happening, and everyone's got something to sell, and everybody

got something to offer. But I think also, when you look at it

that way, like everyone's doing it because they can. And if it

is your passion, and if this is something that you feel called

to, because, you know, it should be something that you feel like

I'm at service to, because it has to fulfill you, not just

because, well, this is the one way to do make money, then I'm

going to follow it. It's like, if you're following just the

monetary aspect, then, you know, I don't think it's going to be

as fulfilling as you expect. But if you truly, like you said,

like close your eyes and connect and and see, what is it that you

connect to? What is it that really makes you feel alive?

Whether that is a service or maybe that is art, maybe that

is, you know, you you see people like selling little things on

Etsy and make a business out of it. Do you know what I mean?

Like, there is so many opportunities right now,

especially as we were saying in this digital world that we live

this is so different than what it was even 20 years ago, like

you are able to create a business out of anything. And if

that's you know that what you're looking for to have that safety

net. But even if it's not a business that you're making

online, you can always like, I see some people that just move

to Barbados, and they're like, I'm a yoga teacher. I'm teaching

at a couple different studios here. Or, you know, they find

another like, there's always opportunities and other ways to

make an income and a life in a different environment. And it

doesn't have to be the place that makes you feel stuck or

suffocated. And I think when people can face that fear, to

even just travel and see what is out there in the world, and to

meet like you're saying, you meet so many new people, and you

hear their stories, and you see people doing it in all their own

different ways, and there's no there's no box to follow, like

you can create whatever you want. You know you can really

you're the master of your own life. And if you meet different,

different people that do it a different way, like, it's so

inspiring to see that all you really need is courage, and all

you really need is the strength in your own heart to like, to

make that difficult choice. And the hardest choice is to leave

is the hardest choice is to make decision, the decision in your

heart, to choose to put your house for sale, or to break your

lease, or to sell your car and all the belongings, and just

pack your bags and just go and yes, you know, as I say these

things, sometimes you're like, Well, you know, single thing,

but I have kids, and they have, you know, a life and this. But

even just to give you an example, we had somebody that

worked for our company. He him and his family were living in

Toronto all their life. Never left. And, you know, for the

first six months he was working with us, he's constantly was

just, you know, personally, sharing with Mark like them as a

family, just feeling really stuck. And again, that that

feeling like suffocating, we need to change, but we don't

know how they have, like, two kids that are, you know, 10 and

seven, and the wife has, she's a lawyer at a, like, a corporate

office in Toronto. Like, there's so many things that keeping them

grounded. And I remember with Mark, I was like, Look, you

don't have to make the biggest decision of your life and sell

everything. Go like, here in Barbados, they have a welcome

stamp visa, so they give you an opportunity to go for one year.

Like, put your rent your house well, because you have worked

for us. So we're like, move here. We're living here now as

well. Move your family here. Put your kids in a school for one

year in Barbados, you know, make the arrangements like you don't

have to completely destroy everything that you build in

your town, but just take a pause and go see and experience a

different way of living. And they did, and it was amazing,

you know, they it was so scary for them. They they packed a

bunch of stuff. They shipped it over here. The kids got into

school for the year. They had a beautiful school here that they

love. And even his wife is able to figure out a way with the

corporate job she was in to be able to work remotely. Because

since COVID, I think, like, people are a lot more open to

that now, like zoom and all these things, like, it's a lot

easier to do it than before, and they did, you know, and it was

beautiful, and they lived for a year, and they actually, I think

they're going back to Toronto because, you know, she's not

working for us anymore, just for the reasons, but whatever

circumstance that happened, the fact that they did it for a

year, and just to see them actually grow, and how much they

loved it and their children. And like the relationship they, they

they made, and like just how much more connected with nature

they started to become, to a point where they were like, Oh

well, you know, we don't even want to go back to Canada

anymore. Like they, they really loved it here, because of the,

obviously, the relationship. At the the working relationship

with us, they might go back to figure it out now, because it's,

you know, they obviously life changes. But the fact that I

don't know where they'll go next, maybe they'll move to a

different country. They're talking about maybe going to

California now, but you know, just that one first step for

them, for a family that you would say were so tied with so

many different ways they did it, and it was really inspiring. And

I was so proud of them, because I'm like, Wow, that's amazing.

Guys like you, as scary as it is, it's so possible and it is,

and you learn and you experience and what's the worst thing that

happens if you go back your house is back. They know what I

mean, but the richness that you receive from living in a

different country, your children being exposed to different

cultures, to different people. It Like It's there's no price

tag on that, like it is the most enriching thing you can offer

for yourself or for your family. And even if it's temporary, it

doesn't have to be a forever, you know. But I think life is so

short that to not give ourselves the opportunity to just live and

experience it, even for a short moment. It's so crucial,

and you never know where to lead. Like you never

know on that experience if you're going to meet what new,

new possibilities will come your way that you couldn't see

before. Like I think of how many things in my life are my lived

reality now, and what I'm even moving into that I didn't even

know I wanted before. We often so many women when there's first

trying to figure out what they desire or what they're you know,

what is their big, juicy Kate or Juliana style, like unscripted

life? What does theirs look like, and their mind might be

able to try and imagine? But it there's so much ahead of us when

we're not learning the script and we're not following the x,

y, z, check the boxes, live your life in this tiny box, and

follow the rules and stay where you were born and don't go

anywhere and don't do anything, and and when you're not high on

drugs the whole time or numb on drugs because you can't, you

don't want to feel any of it like when you're not living that

life anymore and You're no longer willing to suffocate

yourself. You actually don't need to know where you're going.

You can have ideas. My client told me the other day, this is

so cool. I recorded my online course that that all my clients

go through. I called the reclamation. I did it in 2020

from Vancouver for my place in Vancouver. And I say she shared

with me that I say in the video, one day I'm gonna live in

Europe, like maybe Italy, or somewhere in the Mediterranean.

I didn't know I was moving to Greece. Wow. He said that five

years ago. You just don't know. You really don't desires and

manifesto level, yes, yeah, exactly. And on some soul level,

I did know, maybe, but I didn't even when I moved here, it was

on a whim, like it was because of COVID airplane. Remember that

story? I remember, yeah, yeah. It was on a whim. So it's not

it. You don't have, like, we've been so programmed to believe we

have to plan our futures. You don't know your future self. All

you need to do, like you said, like your that beautiful story

you just shared is just like, what's your heart and soul

calling right now? What's like knocking at your door over and

over and over again right now? And to just follow that thread

and take one step, you know, to even go somewhere for a month.

So many people say to me, I want to live in Europe one day. Okay,

come to Europe. Come for three months. Because you can't, you

know you can stay in here without a visa for three months,

but so many countries have digital nomad visas now, like,

if you have a desire, just take one step towards it, because

it's going to lead you. There's going to be so much more that

you don't even know your desire that will open up. And I'm sure

you have a million stories like that too. 100%

No, and that's exactly what you're saying. It's

taking that first step without feeling like you have to make

the biggest commitment of your life and sell everything. And

you know what I mean? Because, yeah, you have no idea what even

the experience is like. If you've never been to Europe, and

you want to know what it's like to live in Europe, go live for

two months, like you're saying, because living and visiting a

place is so different, right? It's like, it's nice. You go on

a vacation for a week. You're like, this is perfect, amazing.

You try living there for some period of time, you may not feel

the same way again. And I think that experience right there is

important as well. And especially I also find, you

know, for anybody that feels that feeling inside, that kind

of ocean, like, this kind of suffocation, of like, oh, this

is not feeling right for me anymore. I want to change, but I

don't know where to start. I don't know where to go. I don't

know what are the right steps to take. I'm too afraid. There's

just too much on me is, you know, taking, let's just say, a

retreat, you know, not like a vacation, but a retreat to go,

maybe like, you know, you offer some beautiful retreats, like

with your your women's groups, or, you know, a yoga retreat, or

whatever it is. I mean, right now the world is filled with so

many opportunities, but just being able to remove yourself to

a new environment, to a new culture for a couple weeks to a

month, and really allow yourself to deprogram yourself from

living in a specific way that certain places in the world,

especially big. Cities and, you know, the Western I find also

mentality kind of brainwashes us with and living in a completely

different environment, with new people and being inspired by

other people that could be that first step, because then you

come back and you're like, wow, and then you feel like the

difference now, and this happened actually, to mark and

I, before we even decided to do our big, big shift and change in

our life, we used to travel to Costa Rica almost couple times a

year, and we would just go for a couple weeks, maybe a month,

maybe because that was much time as we could take off from all

the obligations we had in the city at the time. But I remember

every time I would go, I would come back to Toronto, and I

would literally cry. I would be at the airport, and I would be

crying because I just felt like my body, physically was I don't

want to be here anymore. I don't want to be there anymore, like

this isn't aligning. And the more I traveled outside, the

stronger that feeling became every time I would return, and

that was the biggest sign. I was like, Okay, this isn't just me

wanting a change. This is literally my body, physically

resisting to the energy that this place is about. And right

there that was enough to be like, yeah, that's it. Whatever

I have to do, I have to figure it out. And it doesn't have to

be, you know, like whether even I remember him in Mark, and I

was like, I'm just gonna move to coast. Gonna move to Costa Rica,

and I'll set up an ice cream shack, and I'll just sell ice

cream on the beach. Like, I don't know, do whatever we need

to do, you know, to figure out financially that you can at

least sustain yourself to a degree. But it's like, you know,

like I said, again, it's, it's life is, is just too fragile and

too short to not live, not in our truth, you know, and to

continue to suppress that truth that we feel in our heart is

only going to bite us in the ass, pretty much, because, yeah,

it's going to come out one way or another. You know, there is a

beautiful book I was reading, the gabriate, and, you know, he

talks about like, in terms of just the idea of trauma, and

certain psychological traumas that we go through in our life,

and when we don't find a way to release that energy or to to

feel the wounds and to work through them, they physically

like, they make you ill, like all of the sicknesses and and

diseases that arise a lot of the times where the root, the root

was something psychological or something like that, we weren't

connected. We weren't living our truth. We were suppressing,

like, even suppressing now, there's, like, all these

scientific studies talking about, like, especially in

women, like, what women that were suppressing, like,

vocalizing what they want and what they need, and how that was

actually coming into, like, certain different ovarian

cancers and different again, I don't have the stats in front of

me to fully speak to it scientifically. But like, if you

go deep into that research and see it's like, when we're not

able to live within our truth and to speak about it, we just

keep suppressing it and pushing it down. The body will will

revolt in one way. You know,

it just, it's so beautiful. Because ever I love

everything you just said, your body's never gonna stop talking

to you and like, what a gift. I did an episode recently about

how anxiety is a gift, because it's just like an out of tune

guitar when your body's telling you to go one way, but your

mind, AKA your soul, right? Your Heart and Soul want to go one

way, and that's your truth, and then your mind always tells you

to go the opposite, because it thinks, oh no, that expansive

way is unsafe, so it creates this distortion and discord in

the body, just like all the ailments, just like depression,

like when you went repression, it's like everything's getting

pushed down. So of course, you feel depressed because you're

repressing absolutely everything, desires, your truth,

your feelings, your your intuition, everything, but the

more we can and that's why I love like, even just something

as simple as yoga. So for someone who's like, really in

your head, find a good yoga teacher who's really connected

like you and you do Juliana's yoga on you guys have an app

now, don't you? Yeah, we have a

full out app with hundreds and 1000s of

classes, and we actually started putting in different teachers

onto our app as well. Um, it's everything, not just yoga, but

we, you know, we have meditation, we have yoga,

nidras, we have breath work. We have so many different

modalities to help people come into their body and connect

deeper with their hearts, to again, to deepen that that

relationship. Because you know something also to comment when

you're saying about depression, and something I've realized

seeing just kind of how our Western society deals with these

mental ailments like depression, it's like, okay, you feel

depressed. Well, what do they do? They give you a bunch of

pills to numb yourself with. And I understand sometimes it's

very, very necessary. I can't comment that it's wrong, but I

think a lot of the times, like, they don't take the time to get

to the root of what is causing this person to feel depressed.

Why are they feeling unaligned? Like, maybe blah. Before we

start just throwing a bunch of chemicals at people that is

actually going to give them worse and give them side effects

and just put them in this terrible cycle, it's like, why

don't we address the root of it? And again, let's connect to the

body. Let's connect to the heart. What are we eating? What

are we drinking? What are we surrounding ourselves with? What

are the people in your life? How are you spending your time? What

kind of news or media are you consuming that is causing, like,

everything has an effect on our mind, our body and our heart.

And before we just jump into, you know, prescription, it's

like, Well, why don't we heal? Try the natural healing first,

see if that helps, you know. And I feel like if we were to

address those issues. In this perspective, I think there will

be a lot different outcomes for many people out there that

suffer with these type of mental ailments, such as depression.

A lot of my clients is when I start working with me,

they have they they're on medication because it's so

common in North America, because everyone's just in the soup,

right in the stress, functioning in the keeping their calendar so

busy there's no spaciousness and and after a few months, and

without even sharing with me, often, they just tell me after I

don't even know they're on, and it's not something I talk about,

I don't ask people, but unless I feel that they're very numb, and

then I'll ask, but it just happens naturally, where they

eventually are like, Oh, I don't need this anymore. And then it's

because they're alive again, because they're following their

truth. And I think you're I just feel like you're at your energy.

You're one of the most this is why I love you so much, and I

feel so aligned with you, and did the moment I met you. As I

feel like you're so embodied in in everything that you believe,

and your your energy, it just feels so consistent, and it's

like it's so pure, because you you do have such a clean life.

You're so connected to nature. You eat really clean. You're

very intentional with every with with so many facets of your

life. And so to learn from a teacher like that, I think of

all the movies that have been out there over the years, of

like the therapist who's actually a raging alcoholic

behind the scenes by thread, versus like someone who's

actually deeply embodied in the thing. Because when you're doing

your classes, it's not just the class, it's the frequency that

you're emitting, even through this conversation. So I think

like the app is the best place to start, because people can put

it on their phones, their computers. Goes with you.

Everywhere you go, carve out that space every morning, spend,

you know, 30 minutes or an hour on your app, or even 10 minutes,

whatever, doing something for yourself to connect with your

body, like I said. Not you everyone listening, obviously,

but like, like, I like, I said before, it's like that you as

soon as you close your eyes and connect your truth is right

there. It's just, it's just waiting for you don't need to

know the 10 million steps you're going to take or how you're

going to get there, but the desires and the the things that

are no longer serving you and no longer a lot in alignment are

right there, and all we have to do is get quiet.

Yeah, and that's the thing is, some people

sometimes look at the idea of, like, yoga and wellness, like,

oh, well, I just have, I don't have enough time in my day. But

it's like, you don't even need an hour. Like, I have two kids.

I can't tell you that I have an hour for myself. Sometimes all I

get is 1520 minutes, but I will find that time, and I'll just do

a very quick yoga practice, five minute breath. That's it. That's

all I got today. Maybe tomorrow I'll have a little bit more, but

it's really not in the quantity, but it's in the quality. And you

know, in our app, we have everything from five minutes to

32 hour long practice, and really is up to the person to

decide what their life allows in that moment. But what it is,

it's it's just giving yourself an opportunity to connect to

your heart and to your soul, if not your head. That's always

racing 1000 miles an hour, but it's your heart, and it's to

quiet the mind for a moment, and that's where the truth really

can speak to and and I see it all the time, just even from

hearing people's stories, or from even seeing what I've

noticed as a teacher in a physical form, in a classes, you

give people opportunity to find that space inside their heart,

and they'll a lot of times have like an emotional release, like

you see them start to cry. You see people starting to to feel

something even in that short amount of time, and it's

beautiful, and it's something we should never suppress. Like, you

know, if you feel the urge to cry, when you find that

stillness silence, even if you go in nature, do it because it's

your nervous system that is regulating, that is your body

needing to release whatever energy, what is around and that

we're storing it. Because if you don't, like I said before this,

and it's energy can't be destroyed, right? Like it just

goes and you have to, you have to move it. And so if we're not

able to move it out of our heart space, out of our body, whether

that is, you know, anxiety, stress, all of those things, it

will find a home, and it will manifest itself in your body and

come out through back ache or pain. Pain or worse, you know,

some kind of illness. And so that self care is crucial, and

that is actually the first step before you do anything else or

change your life in any way. Is actually prioritize wherever you

live, 1520, half an hour a day to just whether it is yoga,

breath work, meditation or maybe a workout. Some people really

need to release that energy, or even sometimes, I say, just go

in nature. You don't have time. You have a dog. Go walk your dog

and connect, you know. And just like without your phone, yes,

exactly. Leave the phone behind, just for that half an hour.

Don't look at the email, don't check your text messages, and

just breathe and listen to the wind and feel the rays of the

sun on your skin, and just connect with that energy,

because it is around us, like divinity, like that. It's here,

it's it's inside of ourselves. It's everywhere. But we just we

disconnect from it because there's so much noise, like our

lives are so busy and they're and if we don't find to connect

to it. We just keep getting more and more dragged into the noise

and chaos of our of our life, and then you start to feel more

and more lost. And so I find that even that first step of

just finding daily ways to connect to your heart will start

to slowly build little, tiny, micro steps to a greater

understanding of what is it that you really want, and what is it

that you really need in your life and feel connected to, and

what is it that you need to let go of? And, yeah, more nourish

more. You know, because, like you said, like you work with a

lot of women that are like, should I stay? Should I go? Do I

feel? You know, what do I do, and especially at a specific

time in our lives and circumstances? You know, whether

that is for relationships or whatever it is, it's a really

difficult either question to start to ask yourself, like, do

I feel like I'm growing in this relationship? Do I feel like I

am really living my truth, or am I just reacting to what I'm

supposed to do? And you know that question itself can be even

a scary one that people avoid to ask because you're afraid of

what the answer would be. Because if some of that the

truth or the answer might come up, that may be a difficult one,

right? But, yeah, I think it's like I said before. It's, you

know, we need to always prioritize our own well being

and our growth, our soul evolution. That is really why

we're here on Earth. And unfortunately, you know, it does

require, sometimes asking the difficult questions and

connecting for ourselves, and prioritizing that connection,

even if we feel like we don't have the time for

Yeah. Well, the beauty is it just like you get

it just gets better, like life gets so much better and richer

and more meaningful and more satiating, more fulfilling. When

you do create that space and and and start to operate from your

that soul, heart space, instead of the mind it so so you'll get

you'll get to know that right now i It's so much easier for me

to make big decisions and take risks and let things go, let

relationships go, let apartments go, let places go, step into new

possibilities. Because I know, even if that ends up being, like

we talked about earlier, a stepping stone, I know it's a

calling right now, and I know that it's just going to be even

juicier, even better, like there's always more of ourselves

to experience, and more of life to experience, and also just

just thinking about how freaking cool it is the body's

intelligence, like how amazing that we have this body that's

always talking to us, and it never stops. Worst case

scenario, and you get some crazy disease your body is you're on

your side. And I think how many, how many women, especially, are

at war with our bodies when our bodies just want to help us.

They're literally our guides. Like, hey, no, don't go to don't

walk in that room. Don't go on a date with that guy. Don't, you

know, don't. Don't stay another day in this job that is

suffocating you. Our bodies are so highly intelligent and

connected to the to the bigger life that we're meant to

experience, the more expanded life that we're meant to

experience. So that's so cool.

Oh, it's, it's incredible, like the

intelligence of your body. It's, um, you know, for me, I the what

I really made me realize. I mean, obviously, I've read so

much of it in books. I actually there's another beautiful book

called Body Keeps the Score by another. I don't know if you've

heard of it. It's, it's quite an old book, but it talks about

how, like, our body literally Keeps the Score of like, every

traumatic experience, whether it's even traumatic or not,

like, whatever way you label that it, it's, it takes us for

and it's like we have to find ways to to work with the energy

to release it. But I was saying to go back to, you know, the

most transformative ways for me to realize the power of our

bodies is when I was, you know, giving birth. I had two natural

births with my kids, and to see, like, I can't even explain it,

like, how. How intelligent the female body is. It's like, it

like, you don't do anything. You're just, like, stepping

aside, and it like, knows, like a contraction and all the things

of like, it's literally bringing life into this world. And it's

doing it without your mind. It's doing it without your head, also

making the baby. It's like, it's making body

parts

growing, growing lungs, like you're,

like, literally, like having growing a nervous system right

in your belt, like in your uterus, like it's, it's really

freaking incredible. And we have to, I almost, like, remember

that whether you know women are our mothers or not, or they

choose to have children or not, it's like, you see that process

right there, of like bringing life into this world, the body

has been designed and programmed by not humans, divinity, by God,

by existence, to be able to have the strength and the

intelligence to create. Literally, it's a miracle, like

it bringing life into this world. And so like to know that.

Then we also have to remember that. Then it will signal and

tell you when something is not aligned anymore with with your

well being like it will speak to you. It's just really a matter

of fact, if you choose to listen to it, or you choose to put it

aside and ignore it, but over and over again, it will continue

to give you a little sign, and the signs will start to get

stronger, stronger the more you ignore them, right? It's like,

slowly it'll just be a tap on your shoulder, and then it'll be

a hit on the head, and it'll be a break on your head. You know,

it's like, it's good to keep trying to get your attention

until you listen and but I think, you know, a mindful

practice of self care is the first step in helping you kind

of reconnect to that connection, like that telephone wire with

your body and your mind, to try and connect to it and listen to

what it actually feels and what it needs. And that, I think, as

we prioritize it and we start to take care of our bodies, you

start to feel better in your mind. You prioritize that mind

body connection, and slowly, things just start to kind of

move in that direction. And one little baby step at a time,

it'll unfold the way it's supposed to. And then you feel

more stronger and more confident to even speak your truth, and,

you know, voice your truth. And that's something, you know, I

struggled a lot with, you know, for a long time, because I, you

know, I was raised, I come from Ukraine, right? So, like, I was

raised in a very like Soviet Union type of way, where, you

know, like, as though, as a girl too, like you don't speak, you

listen, you take, like rules, like everything is so one way,

and as a woman as well, in that culture, it's like, no, no, you

don't have a voice. You you do what you're told, kind of thing.

And so that's been programmed from a very, very early age in

my mind, and slowly, obviously, living the life that I have now.

It also was a lot of work to start to deprogram that, and I

still, you know, struggle through activating my throat

chakra to be able to voice certain things that I feel that

sometimes are scary or maybe a little bit more intimidating to

speak about it. It's a work in progress, but, you know, it just

shows that, like it's it requires work. None of it is

going to be a step of a fingers. Be like, Okay, now I'm ready.

I'm going to speak my truth. It's like, Well, are you? Are

you able to really connect to that truth? Are you able to, you

know, understand of what that will open up for you when you

are ready to commit to walking that path, that unscripted path,

as you say, right? Because that also will require you having to

realign your path with the right people, because there's so many

people in your life that may not agree with it, that may not

support it, that may actually try to scare you from it,

especially like I was saying, it's like, if you're surrounded

by other people that are living that life, that are maybe stuck

and not listening to themselves, when they see somebody else

trying to, you know, change or find a different path, Like

maybe, what are you doing? You know, because they themselves.

Everything is a reflection, right? It's a personal

reflection. They're reflecting what you're you're trying to do

with their own life, and then they will try to convince you to

not do it, because deep down in themselves, they're too scared

of themselves, you know. And I saw it a lot when Mark and I

started going on our path, you know, I but I lost a lot of

friends. I had to let go of a lot of people in my life because

I knew that their energy wasn't serving the truth that I was

ready to walk towards. And that's also part of it, right?

It's

just like so part of it, I mean,

I'm sure you can relate as well. Probably had

to

yeah

time, but I just there was this line, the full

moon that just happened. There was this line, the Scorpio Full

Moon on the on my birthday, on the 12th, the last line, it was

so poignant. It said, You will never go back to the person that

you were, and it will be the best thing that ever happened to

you. And so our fear. Or wants to hold on to what was like we

talked about with the death and rebirth our fear. Wants to hold

on to all those people. Wants to hold on, wants to make everyone

happy. We're so and as women, just so taught to please

everyone else and not ruffle feathers, not cause, but like

I'm so. I love how you phrase that. It's the reflection of

them, and you know, once you can really, really anchor into other

people's opinions of you, perspectives, their judgments,

their their fears, aren't about you anyways, like they're not

about you and and and on my path, I'm sure you can say the

same. It's been like, the more I stand rooted in my own truth,

the less people challenge me. They're just you now. They're

using the ones who are still in my life like family, and the

ones that they might not be living the same path as me, but

they love me now for all of who I am and the crazy in their mind

choices. Because they're just like, oh yeah, that's just Kate.

Whereas when I first started following my truth, they were

like, no, no. They would tell me what to do. They would give me

advice, because that's how my patterns had it set up, right?

Like, yeah, because they weren't used to that, and it was, of

course, reflecting their own fear. But now, the ones that

have stuck around, and many fell away that weren't aligned, but,

but, but mostly, I'm talking about family that just like, Are

there no matter what they're Yeah. They just see like, oh,

that's they accept it now. Like, nobody was surprised that I

didn't get vaccinated. Nobody's surprised that I went to Costa

Rica in the middle of the pandemic, that I'm then when I

moved to Greece. They're like, Oh, yeah, this game. Like, if I

became a lesbian, like, nobody would be surprised. They're

like, yeah, she's just doing her thing. Like, you know

what? Are true? Yeah,

yeah. So it's like, the more we do it, the more the

world around us. And I think really, it's comes down to the

more we internally, like, are really so rooted in our truth

that we're no longer willing to sacrifice our own truth for

everyone else's experience,

exactly. And you'll kind of stop caring as

well. You're like you stop caring. Yes, you stop caring

what they think, because it doesn't really matter, because

this is your life, and their opinions of you isn't going to

really change. You know what you're going to continue onward

with and your path. So whether they agree with you or disagree

with you, it doesn't really matter, because if they don't

agree with you, then they're not meant to be in your life

anymore, and that's okay. And it's not like a a negative, you

know, terrible thing. It's just the way life goes. We're not

always going to be connected with the same people forever.

It's like every person serves a purpose, and sometimes that is a

chapter in your life. Maybe that's a lesson. Maybe it's it's

a beautiful relationship for a moment, and then you have to let

that relationship go. Because you're, you're, you're all

beings, your own soul, you're all, we're all traveling in our

own path, and that's okay, you know, and difficult as it is

sometimes to admit to that of losing your friends or, you

know, relationship and such, it's, it is just the way of

life, and it just, it's, it's our journey, and it's, it's the

lessons in itself, right?

And it's so worth it when the aligned people come

in, right? Like, where it's easy and it's, it's you're on the, I

think of my favorite metaphor lately is the radio channels,

like, you're on the same radio, and there's no static. It's

just, like,

totally Yeah, friction, yes,

and you don't, and then

you don't have to, like, hold yourself back. I

you know, I found I became really aware of this lately.

It's like, when I've been in a in an environment or a group

setting, I guess, with different individuals and people that are

maybe not on that same radio frequency as me, I find myself

so, like, held back because I'm so afraid to, like, Oh, can I

say this? Or can I not say this? Maybe they don't, they'll think

I'm crazy if I say it this way, and it's like, it's so draining

to a point where, like, now I'm like, I avoid people like that.

I don't even want to be surrounded because my time and

my life is so limited right now. I have so much going on that if

I'm going to commit to a social gathering or social event, I

wanted to be around people where I can be myself, and I can open

and I can feel comfortable in a very loving, held space where

everyone's aligned on the same rape frequency, you know. And so

I choose to find those people and to surround myself with

those people, because that's what it is. And then I'm so

grateful for that, you know. And I'm saying even here, like in

Barbados, I'm so grateful that we started to find the little

families and individuals that are very like minded and

connected in that same frequency. Because, you know,

it's, it's a beautiful thing to find your tribe, and it

sometimes takes a whole life to find that, right, so

totally and it, yeah, it's like, it's going to

be your future self will thank you. This is going to feel way

better than what what you currently have those friendships

where you have to hold yourself back or fight or or leave

something drained and exhausted or defeated, or whatever the

thing might be like that. Your your future aligned friendships

are going to feel so much better than that. So it's going to be

so worth it. And. Yeah, I was just, oh my gosh, have you met

Scott? Yeah, the chiropractor. Scott, chiropractor, we'll talk

about it later. My old, old, like, very old dear friend. I

haven't talked to him in years, moved to Barbados, and he's

still there, and he's a chiropractor,

so we'll talk about it. Yeah, I'd love to meet

him chiropractor, too. It's always nice to find a good

chiropractor. Yes, He's amazing. He's been doing it

forever, and he's a phenomenal guy. So yeah, have to connect

you too. But yeah, it's it's it. I love all of this. It's like

the body most important thing. You gotta really shift the

relationship with the body and have a reverent, loving,

harmonious relationship with your body, because she's going

to lead you to your truth, and then from the truth it's

and then life will unfold and in the way it

should be. And then, you know, and that that's that next

component, is that trust right through all of this, and also

holding that trust in whatever you label it, you know,

divinity, God, universe, whatever it is to that to you,

but having trust that you are guided in that way, you know,

and I and every time I remember, I felt lost in my life, you know

what I mean? Or like these periods of my life where I feel

kind of disconnected, or just, yeah, in a tougher place,

there's always like, these, um, sorry, these beautiful mantras

that I come back to, and one of them, it always is just closing

your eyes and connecting to that you're like, I'm guided. I am

protected. I am guided. And just repeating that in your mind. Or,

you know, there's, there's many variations, and I have a few

meditations on our app that deal with those type of energies and

intentions. But yeah, it's reminding yourself that even in

those like really difficult moments, that you are guided,

even if you don't see it, there is there is an energy that

pushes us and protects us in this life and gives us the the

difficult challenges, but also beautiful, expansive

opportunities for the growth of our of our life, for our soul to

to live, and we're here to live, right? That's why we aren't

incarnated in these bodies, so we can have these experiences

Exactly. And what else is the point? Like, we're

not here to just, I mean, you can choose a mundane life, you

can choose a numb life. You can choose a scripted not your

desire, not your not aligned. But it's so much more painful.

And people are so afraid of the fear of taking the risk to

follow their hearts. But it's like the only part that's

painful is really make like you said. It's making the decision,

like, once you once you make the decision, it's so beautiful.

And you know, what else is more painful is

regret, is one day waking up and feeling like, I should have done

this, I should have made that step, I should have tried or

just took that risk. And, you know, one day it could be too

late, you know, maybe one day you're too old, or, God forbid,

something else happens, you know, with your body, sickness

and illness, and that is the biggest fear, I think, is to

regret that you didn't try. And so while you can, and while you

have the opportunity and the health and and the, you know,

possibility, to do it, why not? Because, like I said, there

really there's nothing to lose. You can always go back to the

scripted way of living. It's easy, you know, can find it. You

can, you know, do the same thing, but one day, it could

become too late for you to explore what life could be if

you follow your heart and you connect to your heart and allow

that truth to guide you forward, and because when you make that

first step, then you really don't know what people and what

opportunities will open themselves up to you and unfold

in front of your eyes that will then make you look back and

connect all the dots and be like, Wow, this is crazy. I'm so

like, lucky and happy that I listened to my my own, my own

truth, you know, and I listened to my heart and I and I faced

that fear, because look at the life that has presented itself,

you know, like, look at yourself like you're moving to Kenya.

Like, have you ever wondered, like, be living Kenya? Like, do

you remember yourself like two years ago, last time I spoke to

you definitely that was never in the conversation. But, like,

look at what you know you you had this beautiful relationship,

and you know, it's done its chapter and its thing, but it's

like all the little steps have brought you to where you are

now, creating these beautiful relationships and opportunities

for yourself to make a life in Africa, like, amazing. It's

incredible, you know, and you're coming soon.

I can't wait to visit you. It's, um, I love what

you said about connecting the dots, because it's like, that's

the cool thing about when you look back to the unscripted

life, is this is like, oh, had I not. Like, had my friend Mariana

not gone to that party and met that guy that was like, Oh, you

do retreats. Like, you gotta go to retreat in London, and you

gotta go to do a retreat at this place called Ola pangi farm in

Kenya. And like, she wasn't on her radar. And then she's like,

we're going to Kenya. And then, like, you know, I just think of

all the divine moments and divine connections, not just for

me, not just for her, for all the women I've brought to Kenya

and then their magical journeys and lives and connections and

love stories and things that have unfolded from that place,

like when we follow our hearts and our truths that like that,

you get to go back and connect the dots and see like it's

amazing this person, if I didn't take that risk, if I didn't get

on that plane, if I didn't have that uncomfortable conversation.

I didn't let that thing go,

yeah, yeah. It's incredible. And then again,

that reminds you of that whole idea. It's like we are guided.

In a way, there is no guidance. Energy that is guiding us is

just, you know, we do also have free will. So in a sense, you

know, you do have the choice to go to that party or not. You do

have a choice to get on the plane or not. It's really up to

you. But if you, you know, look a little deeper under that, it's

like, wow. The all of the things at the right place happen, you

know, you met that right person, because you're meant to be going

here, something in your soul is guiding you from this journey to

experience whatever is out there for you, and you and you have no

idea what's out there for you. It could be incredible, you

know, or it could be short lived. You have no idea, you

know,

and not attached, trusting that too, trusting that

it could be a stepping stone, or that it could be exactly a

longer place, or it's all, yeah, none of us know the rest is

unwritten. I love that, that song, the rest is still

unwritten. Yeah, we don't know what's coming, but yeah, our the

more we follow our hearts and our truths, the more aligned we

become, and the more we get to live this life that feels really

good. So I oh my gosh, this conversation is the best. I feel

like we could jam out on this all day long. I just love you so

much, and I'm so happy to share your energy. It's nice to just

connect me. I loved having my country that was super fun in a

different way, but this feels

so good. Me too, has been so lovely, and I'm

so excited to see you in July. Wonderful to spend more time

together and hang out and, yeah, and plan our our trip to Kenya.

I'm excited for this.

Yeah, we'll map it out in July. It's, yeah, I'll

get mark on board. I'm sure he'll be on board. It'll be no

problem. Yeah, 100% Yeah, 100%

we're excited. So excited. It's definitely like

I said it and again, like what I was saying earlier. It's like,

it's been in my mind, it's been in there. And I just somehow,

you know, the right things didn't align, and all of a

sudden, you know, we reconnect, and then use something. You're

living there now, and you're like, what? Like, I literally,

I've been thinking about going to this part of the world for so

long, but, you know, I wasn't, it wasn't the time, and this is

it now, yeah, now. And everything in your life happened

to then connect, to give me that, also reassurance that it

is a good place to bring my family to as well. You know, all

of it, it's it's beautiful, so so divine. It's beautiful.

It's so magical. So hopefully y'all are hearing the

message so much more is possible for you. And okay, so we talked

a lot about your app. Is there anything else you want to talk

about? But also you can share more about the app if you want.

What is the app? We'll link everything in the show notes,

but just so you can say it out loud. Is it just boho beautiful?

Of course, yeah. It's called boho

beautiful, official, and we it's an iOS, Android app. It's also,

we have it on Roku, Apple TV. We have it on fire TV, I think, and

also desktop, and it's a beautiful hub of everything that

you need to enrich your life, enrich your physical and

spiritual component of your well being. So we have everything

from like I mentioned earlier, we have hundreds and hundreds of

yoga classes with myself, with Mark. There's also new teachers

we're bringing on. There's meditation classes, there's

breath work. There are even, you know, inspirational

conversations. There's some episodes from our podcast that

we've done before. It's everything. And you know, you

could put it on your phone, or you could plug it into your TV,

but it's a beautiful opportunity to to have a tool, and that's

what it is, giving you a tool to use to bring a little bit more

self care into your life. So, yeah, you can link it. Of

course, I'm sure it'll be somewhere people can click. But

we also have free offerings as well. We have our YouTube

channel bubble beautiful, where people can just, you know, try

out or join in on some free content. We have, again,

hundreds and hundreds of yoga classes, pilates, fitness,

meditation, everything. So happy to have people explore it and

see what connects to what they need in their life right now.

That's perfect. I feel like last time I talked to

you, I told you, or maybe it. This was in a voice note in

Greece, and I live, well, obviously, you know, in Athens,

for those of you that don't know, I was in my bedroom one

day and I was getting ready, and I heard your voice, and I was

like, Oh, my God, that's Juliana. The person in the

apartment across from me was so funny classes. I don't know if

it was an Airbnb or the girl that there's someone lives

there, but I couldn't see who it was, but it was so ah,

that's so sweet. No, it's so incredible

that this digital world, as you were saying, like in the

beginning of our conversation, it's the fact that, you know, we

can create these videos and then put them up and then people all

over the world and be plugging in any time of the day and and

using it and taking something from it and better themselves.

It is honestly the greatest purpose and service I could have

ever asked for in this life. And I'm very, very, very, very proud

of it and grateful for it.

That's amazing. It's so special. And obviously,

I imagine you can feel the heart frequency of Juliana through

this conversation. If you aren't following the app or getting I'm

getting the app. I'm like, oh god, that's what I need. When

I'm in Kenya, I never I have a yoga mat.

You had one? No,

I you know, we talked about it last time, I

don't know,

didn't give you access. Okay, well,

messaging, I think

you maybe sent it to me and I forgot to download

it or whatever. We'll figure it out, but I'm going to get one

for sure. And actually, I didn't even tell you. I taught yoga in

I just channel taught yoga in Kenya. Where's the farm? Because

one of the girls there wanted to learn how to teach. Okay, now

I'm a yoga teacher. She's now leading classes like she says

she's not an official yoga teacher. Being her, did them

together, and I led them, and we were gonna do a video on

YouTube, but the Wi Fi didn't work. And I was like, Well,

okay, I've done yoga for 20 years, so I could probably teach

a class. And I just dropped in and, like, did a class also,

wow, I channeled you. Yeah, it was super fun. But yes, like

everything below. And thank you so much for your love

conversation. And I feel like it's going to, yeah, I feel like

it's going to penetrate a lot of hearts and

release a lot. So yeah, I hope so. I think this

is, this is the time in our in our world right now, is to

inspire one another and to give strength to one another, and,

you know, to show that it's possible and that this life is

worth living in the most joyful and peaceful and happiest way

that we're meant to experience it. So, you know, hold each

other strong and can do this. And I know, and I think

remembering that, I think, for anyone listening right now is

remembering that the support is there, the guidance is there,

that there's so many women and men have done this, and that

you're not alone, you know, and that's something to always

remember. You're never alone, and you can reach out to

somebody in your community or just through online communities,

but there's so many ways to feel inspired and supported in

creating change in your life. So really, only the thing that's

stopping you is is the first step in the world to really want

to change. So once that's there, that's the first step in a

beautiful journey ahead. So

yeah, love it. Yeah. Maybe, maybe inside of the

new truth movement Facebook group, just inspiring any of you

who are in there to just start, like, commit to 30 days with

Juliana on Bucha, beautiful, and whoever, and like, doing

something every day. Oh yeah, days that'll be able to have

it. We actually have every January. We

would release 30 days, 31 days. And so now we have that saved.

So it doesn't have to be January, but anybody that wants,

like a challenge or something, we have them on the app. You

just log in and you see it, and it'll give you exact, you know,

practice. And the last time we did it, there was a different

intention for every single day to help you, not just like

physically, but also spiritually, to to embody a

different component of a spiritual practice into your

life. And so that's always a great way, like challenges like

that, that hold you accountable, not just having to kind of

everyday, scroll and look for something, but to be like, okay,

day two, day three, day four. And then you feel like motivated

to to complete, you know, 31 days. And it's crazy to see when

you actually do yoga for 31 days straight, how you start to

change the habitual, you know, chemistry in your brain, like

the basal ganglia, and things like, you start to crave it

after you like, oh, I one day without yoga or movement, you're

like, something feels off, like you're starting to create a

beautiful new habits in

your life totally. And it feels like yoga feels

like it's a shower on the inside when you're by the time you get

to the end, good, yeah, that's what it feels like, where it's

like you're not only like reworking your energy and your

physical body, but the inside, there's this internal shift that

happens. I had goosebumps when you said that, imagining what it

would feel like after that much, and even devoting yourself in

that way and proving to yourself that you can ever. Everyone can,

we might, but you can, yeah,

yeah, you can find that 20 minutes, 30 minutes

a day, yeah, to dedicate

to yourself. It's possible, yeah, take 30 minutes

off of scrolling on Instagram or Tiktok or whatever other things

you distract yourself with, and there you go. You probably have

hours on your hands.

Very true, very true. Yeah? Love

it. All right. Well, thank you so much

beautiful. And as always, yeah, so fun. And as always, share

this episode with every woman you know who needs to meet

Juliana conversation and every woman who wants to burn the

script and and live a life from the heart and soul.

Love it. Thank you for having me here. The

best so fun. Thank.