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Welcome to tax bytes for expats. The top tax tips

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you want to know as an expat, the podcast is here to help

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answer the common queries and concerns expats have when moving to

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or from Ireland. Complex taxes explained

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simply we'll focus on the irish and international

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tax issues to be aware of to ensure you save time,

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money and stress. Hi everyone,

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welcome to this episode of Tax Bytes for expats.

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This week we are talking about Cyprus tax in

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Cyprus. What a move to Cyprus looks like, what you need to be aware

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of. And we're joined by Charles Sava of Sava and

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Associates. Sava and associates are a fully licensed,

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medium sized firm based in Cyprus who employ

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almost exclusively former big four chartered accountants and

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cypriot legal experts. They have a wealth of experience

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from across the largest and most reputable law

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firms in Cyprus. They have a wealth of in house

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expertise and knowledge, and they've earned the trust of some of the world's

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biggest international companies, banks and high net worth

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individuals and their families. Charles Saba heads them

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up and he is with us today to talk to us about taxes in

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Cyprus. Thank you very much for joining us Charles, it's lovely to have you with

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us. Thank you very much for having me and

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the opportunity to present a bit of Cyprus

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Cyprus tax and hopefully we will catch

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some people's interests and be able

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to explore some of the great opportunities that

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the islands tax regime primarily has to

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offer. Cyprus has so much to offer. I have a

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special affinity with it myself because I got married there many years

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ago. Yeah, great place. But tell us that before

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we talk about Cyprus. I'm sure people love to hear a

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little bit more and perhaps more eloquently than I put it about yourself. Tell

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us about yourself, Charles, your background, how you ended up in tax, what led you

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to today, essentially? Well, you may or may not

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have picked up from my accent. I'm canadian by

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background. My mother and father are greek Cypriots,

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but I was born in Canada, educated and

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raised there and I didn't actually come to Cyprus until

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I was 24. I

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too was in a

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position of relocating to this island

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that I had not really known too much about prior

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to visiting or to relocating here back in

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2001. Although it did take some time to get

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accustomed to the island. I have to tell you, I fell

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in love with this place after a

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couple of years being here. I was also

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fortunate enough to get involved in the professional services

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space where I feel you can build a

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good, solid career. I think what kept me in

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Cyprus was the fact that I finished my

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studies in Canada, came here and got this

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opportunity to do a chartered accountancy designation

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with one of the big four, Ernst and young. And that kept me

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busy during those initial few years in

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Cyprus, where there was a big adjustment, leaving a big city

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in Toronto and coming to a mediterranean

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island. So that kept me busy and it

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gave me that time frame that I needed to

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adjust to the island. And as I said, I've fallen in

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love with the country, with the people, with

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the traditions. It's a beautiful, beautiful place, an

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even more beautiful and simple tax

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regime. So I've been involved

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in the tax space here in Cyprus from

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the very beginning of my career in

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2001 in Cyprus. I'm a tax

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professional by background and I

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spent a good part of my day, every single day,

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talking to clients and their advisors

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and international tax advisors all over the world,

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helping to educate them on what the opportunities are in

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Cyprus as a result of our tax regime

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and identifying opportunities, how

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professionals such as yourself can assist your own

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client base with identifying

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opportunities, from personal tax migration

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to corporate tax optimization. Okay, that leads

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nicely then, into my next question, which is, give us the quick,

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if there is such a thing synopsis of how I suppose

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individuals who are planning a relocation to somewhere like Cyprus

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would be treated. How does the income tax system work? Is there

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capital gains? Is there wealth taxes? Those types of things are usually of

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interest to people who are listening. Okay, I would

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answer your question by presenting our non

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domicile scheme. We have what is often

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considered by fellow international tax

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advisors around the world to be what is likely the

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world's or onshore tax worlds, I should say,

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most attractive, beneficial non domicile

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regime. And I would also add, it's probably the most simple

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as well, because I can explain it to most clients, as

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I did with you when we initially met in

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probably under a minute. What the non domicile scheme here in

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Cyprus allows someone to do is

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obtain a 17 year tax holiday

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on essentially the three sources of income of

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most by net worth and divisions being

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worldwide dividend income, interest income

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and profits on the disposal of securities,

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securities being, of course, stocks, bonds.

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So these three forms of income are,

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in most cases, the three most common sources of

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income you will see for most high net worth

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individuals and their families. So the non

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domicile scheme allows a 17 year tax

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holiday, and it requires two major

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obstacles to be conquered by the

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non resident who is migrating their personal

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tax residency to Cyprus. Number one is they

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must be willing to spend 60 days in a

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calendar year physically in Cyprus. And number

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two, they cannot be more than six months in any other

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one country. So we often call

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the 60 day route to qualifying as

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a non domicile as the 60 day rule.

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I could say the primary attraction

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point of the program, because, as you know, most non

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domicile programs, the UK's non domicile

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scheme, the portuguese non

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habitual resident scheme that was recently

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phased out, they require significant actual

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residency in the country to qualify as a tax resident.

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Whereas Cyprus has come along and introduced an on

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domicile scheme that only requires the

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individual to be physically present in Cyprus for

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60 days, which doesn't have to be continuous. So it's

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two vacations, for example. It can be split

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in however way the resident likes

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within a calendar year. And that eliminates

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probably the most difficult task that we, as

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international tax advisors have, which is a very

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non tax discussion we need to have with our

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clients on. Well, what would it be like to live

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in Cyprus? What would it be like to live in Portugal? What would it

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be like to live in the UK? Of course, I'm more than happy

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to give my opinions on that, especially

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as someone who came here 22 years

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ago, essentially as a foreigner himself. But as

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you can appreciate, it's a very subjective

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discussion. Yeah. One of the things that comes to my mind, I'm just

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thinking about people who might be listening to this is, so maybe if we

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use an example of the type of clients that you

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generally find taking advantage of the regime

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we're talking about. Give me an example of a client, maybe a recent

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one, obviously, without mentioning any names. Who's taken advantage of this? What did their day

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to day life look like? Because there's probably going to be a group of

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people listening to this thinking. Okay, so are we saying that if I

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holiday for two months in Cyprus, I only have a

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cypriot tax headache to think of? And I suppose from an irish perspective, my

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response would be, no, it's more complicated than that. The irish revenue aren't letting you

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go that quickly. So tell me how it works when you're

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dealing with uk and irish clients would often have similar fact

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patterns, because our tax law is not

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vastly different. What does it mean practically, for people who do make the move

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to Cyprus? Is there a lot of people only spending 60 days a

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year there and qualifying for it, as well as not paying tax in their

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home country? The majority of our clients

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are European Union nationals,

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which makes the task of

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relocation much less cumbersome from an

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immigration point of view, because taxation is one

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thing, and then you have to also ensure that you have the

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proper immigration permit to reside in Cyprus.

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As you know, European Union nationals

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have free movement within the EU,

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and that allows for a very easy transition. In terms of the

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immigration logistics of relocating to

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Cyprus, we do have a good number of non eu

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nationals taking advantage, of course, of this very

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attractive non domicile scheme. However,

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the mechanics of securing the

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necessary and proper immigration permit are

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considerably complex. I don't want to make it sound

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like it's a big, difficult task, but it's

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obviously more complex than someone from

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Ireland, someone from Italy, someone from Germany or France

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relocating to Cyprus. That's the nationality

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aspect of the majority of our clients. Then

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I would say the vast majority of

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clients, whether they're EU nationals or non EU

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nationals that take advantage of this program,

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have their three main sources of income being

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the three exempt incomes of this program. So a lot

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of them are business owners that own private companies

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and derive the majority of their income from

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dividends. Also, the nature of their business is such

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that they don't need to be fixed in one

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specific place because we can never forget the

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two major requirements for eligibility being

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60 days in Cyprus and not more than six

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months in any one country. But we also

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have a good number of non domiciles

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who are actually relocating to Cyprus,

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whether that's for work purposes, if

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their company has established headquarters in

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Cyprus, which has been happening at

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a great pace over the last years. If you visit

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Limisol, it is now the headquarters of many

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multinational companies. There's talks with

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Google, with Facebook as well, for

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significant presence in Cyprus, and a lot of that is

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tax driven. So to circle back to your

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question, the vast majority of the non

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domiciles that we work with and help migrate their

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personal tax to Cyprus do not spend

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significantly more in the 60 days that they're

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required to spend, because at the end of the day,

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that is where the strength of the program lies,

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of course, in addition to the categories

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of tax exemption. So, okay, that's answered the

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question. Well, because I think what you're saying is, by virtue of the

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rules, it seems to suggest they wouldn't necessarily be a

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tax resident of another jurisdiction. And I think probably

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the takeaway I want people to have listening to that is

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that's probably contingent on your circumstances. So let me give you an

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example. Absolutely. If somebody qualified for the Cypio

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regime, based on what you're saying, but spent in Ireland four

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and a half months of every year here, they wouldn't break their irish residency. So

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therefore the regime would be potentially not as

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optimal for them. So this is where I suppose each individual

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circumstance and you've alluded to that is different, needs to be looked at.

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But I mean, what a fantastic incentive. So for

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context, and I know we discussed it briefly before, Ireland has a remittance basis of

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tax which is linked to foreign domicile. So a remittance

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basis of tax being that foreign income and foreign gains are not taxable in Ireland

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unless brought here. I get the impression from you that Cyprus goes one step

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further and actually exempts the three types of income that you've

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mentioned. Correct. Okay. So that's a key difference and also

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a key draw of the cypriot scheme. But when we're talking about

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comparisons, can you explain what domicile is

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under cypriot law? What is the meaning of an individual's domicile

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from a tax perspective? Okay. From the

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tax definition of domicile follows

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the legal definition which was enshrined in law

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many, many years ago. Essentially, someone is

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domiciled in Cyprus if they were born here

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and have lived 17 out of the last 20

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years in Cyprus. So the

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determination of whether you're domiciled or not in

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Cyprus is typically a discussion we will only have

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with a client who's Cypriot by background.

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So I too was a non domicile up until

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a few years ago and it required some

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analysis. In fact, I applied for a tax

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ruling back in the day to our tax authorities to

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confirm that I am not Dongassov inside

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this, because the non domestile program was introduced in

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2015. I was a resident in Cyprus from

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2001 on and off, permanent resident from

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2004 onwards. Whereas

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for the vast majority of our clients who are not

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Cypriot, who are irish, EU, non EU,

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the discussion on are you domiciled in Cyprus? Is not.

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Is erupted so easy. Yes, very straightforward in that

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regards. Is it consecutive 17 years or is it

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17 years in your lifetime out. Of the last 20? So it doesn't have

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to be consecutive. Okay. Okay. So in theory, you could restart that

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clock. Yes, yes,

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exactly. Right. So let's say somebody, you know, they

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listen to this, they like Cyprus. Cyprus is a beautiful country. I, obviously, I'm going

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to say that because I got married there, but it's, it's a fantastic

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place. You know, a lot of people speak English. It's an

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easy place from what I can gather, to relocate to

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and, you know, close to Europe. So you can still travel if you want

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to, good connections and things like that. But what about people who

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might be listening to this and they think, oh, this is nice. One of the

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other things they need to be aware of. So, for example, if we take a

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category of somebody, maybe in their fifties, may have still have social insurance

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obligations. Perhaps they have dividends from a foreign

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company. Maybe they are looking to draw a pension in future.

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What are the tax considerations that they do need to think about? Because obviously it's

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not a tax free. No, it's just that exemptions on certain types of

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income. So there will be a tax cost, I'd imagine, at some point. Yes, as

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you correctly point out, there are clients that

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don't fit into these three forms of primary income,

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as most high net worth individuals do. So we have

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a very significant and attractive

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regime for what is loosely termed the ex

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part community. Here in Cyprus,

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the main tax advantages and

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benefits that are offered are on

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income, personal tax income. So

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earners of €55,000 or more

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of income from employment sources

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receive a 50% exemption. If your income is

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less than 55,000, that exemption comes

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20%. There's also an option for foreign

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pensions to be taxed at a flat rate of only

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5%. And from there on out, as a

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cypress tax resident, you are taxed under the

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normal tax brackets that all taxpayers

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here pay personal income tax. So we have a tax free

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bracket from zero to 19 and a half thousand euros,

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then a 20% bracket, 25, 30, all

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the way up to a 35% tax

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bracket. So you are correct in stating that

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we're not a zero tax jurisdiction. It's important

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that we understand that Cyprus is a full member of the

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EU, meaning our taxation system needs

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the blessing of Brussels, of course, including the

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non domicile scheme that was approved by Brussels before

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it was enacted into law.

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So these are the main personal

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tax incentives given tax

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foreigners relocating to Cyprus. On top,

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of course, above and beyond the benefits offered by the non

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domicile regime. Fantastic regime though it

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is. It is absolutely. And so simple, it's

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just very basic. There's no

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caveats to it. The non

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habitual tax resident in Portugal still

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taxed your capital gains on the disposal of

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securities. This is just a very simple,

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straightforward and long lasting program. It's

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17 years and, you know, unless you're

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someone who's in their fifties or sixties,

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the 17 years goes by quickly. I'm

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proof of that because I benefited under this program

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and I also saw the expiry of it and the difference between

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my tax position from one day before and after.

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Yes. In terms of day to day life in. In

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Cyprus, it's, you know, it's not necessarily something that I think people this side of

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the world are familiar with, per se. So what is how

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hard is it to get accommodation? You know, is there a large expat

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community for people who are interested in the move? You've done it

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yourself. What are some of the practical things to be aware of if you're considering,

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in addition to some of these obviously incentivizing tax

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schemes that we're talking about? It is a beautiful

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island. Contrary to popular belief, it

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is not a small island. And I say that as a canadian,

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Canada being the second largest country in the world.

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Cyprus is not a small country. There's five major

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cities, all vastly different. You can enjoy

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the hustle and bustle of limisol and that

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cosmopolitan lifestyle and those 50 some

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odd skyscrapers that have been built on the Limassol

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seafront that are by far the tallest in the

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Mediterranean, to a very different pace

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of rural life that is

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also present here in Cyprus. So, to go back to your question,

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I think it's very important that someone that's

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considering relocating to Cyprus above and beyond

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the 60 days that the non domicile program

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will require them to live here, it's important that they

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conduct their due diligence. Come visit the island, see the

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different cities. The cost of living varies drastically as

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well amongst these areas. So these are all

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important things to consider. Do you have

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children that will require schooling? Some of the best private

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schools, international private schools in the world, have

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branches in Cyprus. So it's.

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It requires some research, as you

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would expect with any relocation to a foreign country. There's

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always research. But there's this common misconception we

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see among clients that it's a small island

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and I'll come for a weekend and we'll see what we like,

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what we don't like. I would say take more than

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a weekend to see the island. It is

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small enough that you can drive from one end to the

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other in the same day. But as I said, during that drive you

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will cross five very different cities

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and provinces, each with its. Its own

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unique lifestyle and each carrying a very different

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cost of living profile, which is very

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important. If people are listening to this and their attention is piqued,

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what are the three things you would

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suggest? Three tips, three considerations, three takeaways you'd like people

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to have? Well, I'm a tax advisor,

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so the first point I will make is make

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sure you understand the local tax regimes. And

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just as important, please make sure you understand the

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exit tax issues from your own home

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country. You are tax resident somewhere, making a

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decision to transfer your tax residency to stuff to

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somewhere else being Cyprus. So that said, this

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is the reason why we do not, as a company, as a

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matter of policy, we do not onboard clients unless

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they come along with their own local

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tax advisor. We need to ensure that the

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client understands not just the taxation

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system and benefits in Cyprus, but what it means

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to migrate out of their own country. That's a really good

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point, actually. And just to kind of jettison from

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that, you know, often we'll have clients who

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maybe DIY'd their tax return up to the point when they maybe leave

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Ireland or, you know, come to move here and. But it's just that

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natural point of if you, if you're asking a question in a foreign jurisdiction,

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anticipate that you need a local tax advisor to help you. That's a

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really, really good point you make there. Yeah, it's

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as I've said, it's a matter of very strict

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policy in our firm, we will not formally onboard a

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client unless they have a tax advisor,

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local tax advisor accompanying them

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throughout the entire process for personal tax

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migration engagements. So

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that's the first point I would mention as

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a secondary, I would say explore the

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investment opportunities and the

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Cypress property market. It's been

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big, big business here over the last few years,

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the development, the real estate development industry, especially

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in the towns of Limisol. So

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I think it's important for someone and their family

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that's thinking to relocate to Cyprus, understand

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what business opportunities exist, understand

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how the property market works. And then

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finally I would circle back to explore

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the five major towns, see what feels right for you,

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what matches your lifestyle, your expectations

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and how you want to live, and

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consider where the good schools are for your children, where the good

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restaurants and cosmopolitan lifestyle

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is based on your own preferences. So those

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would be the three major things that I would

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advise someone considering relocating to Cyprus.

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Above and beyond, of course, the purely tax

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consideration. I think that speaks to what a fantastic regime you have

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there is that you can provide such practical

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advice about the move for things aside from tax. It's so

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useful. Charles, people may and I expect will

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have queries listening to you. How do people

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engage with you when you're working with them as an advisor? What's the best way

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for people to. Contact you by email and

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mobile phone, especially on the WhatsApp platform?

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I'm very active all day. We don't

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charge for an initial discussion to

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talk about what potential benefits

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someone can obtain by transferring their

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tax residency to Cyprus or transferring their

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business or any of the other sorts of areas that

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our office as a service team is engaged with

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them. We like to be inviting the

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clients so that they can approach us and have an

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informal discussion. And then once we see that there's interest

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and a potential good fit between the benefits offered and

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what the client is seeking to achieve,

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then we can move to a more obviously formal

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engagement. But a lot of my daily activities,

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just informal discussions with clients,

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advisors, people such as yourself. Okay, that's really

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useful. We will include, of course, your contact details in the show notes so

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people can make contact with you directly or via ourselves if they have

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any questions. Thank you. This was a very interesting

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chat and there's loads more we could talk about. Thank you very much for your

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time. I really enjoyed chatting with you Charles. Thank you for the opportunity.

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I hope I haven't bombarded you with too much

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information. Not at all, but just make me want to go to Cyprus.

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You're welcomed anytime. Please let me know

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when when you're planning on visiting. It'll be my absolute pleasure to

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welcome you here. Thank you so much Charles. Have a great afternoon. Thank you Stephanie.

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