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Speaker A:Welcome to the Own youn Choices on youn Life podcast.
Speaker A:I know you are here wanting to change and rewrite your story.
Speaker A:You are desiring to step into the impact that you know you were here to create.
Speaker A:I am here to guide you with the proven tools and strategies used by myself and our speakers
Speaker A:to support you in taking radical responsibility in your life and learning how
Speaker A:to own your choices to change your story.
Speaker A:My name is Marsha Van Winesburg.
Speaker A:I am a storytelling business coach, master NLP
Speaker A:trainer, speaker, podcaster, and seven times published author.
Speaker A:My clients have found freedom and purpose from overcoming their shame stories and learning
Speaker A:how to share them with the world.
Speaker A:I am so grateful you are here.
Speaker A:Let's get started.
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Speaker A:Welcome back to the show.
Speaker A:We are still the beginning of January and
Speaker A:happy 2026.
Speaker A:And I know this is a time when people are setting big goals.
Speaker A:They've done vision boards.
Speaker A:Maybe you've already done your vision board or
Speaker A:you've thought about it and a you don't have to do a vision board.
Speaker A:That's not a requirement.
Speaker A:It is one tool and technique that people use when it comes to really being clear on the
Speaker A:vision that they want to create for them and how they will manifest and work towards that.
Speaker A:So I want to talk to you today about like before you actually set the goals,
Speaker A:or if you have set the goals,
Speaker A:how can you build the identity that can hold them?
Speaker A:Because I often say that the vision is not the problem.
Speaker A:The vision, the dream that drops down for you,
Speaker A:where the disconnect happens, is how can you become the version of you who can hold that?
Speaker A:That is identity work.
Speaker A:And so I want to talk to you a little bit
Speaker A:about what identity is, because it's something that you hear a lot about in the online space
Speaker A:and there's a little bit more to it.
Speaker A:So I want to give a little bit more of an NLP explanation of it and anchoring this in for
Speaker A:you.
Speaker A:Everyone is setting goals right now.
Speaker A:They're buying new planners, new vision
Speaker A:boards, new calendars for their walls, like setting the big, big goals for the year.
Speaker A:And instead the question that I want you to ask yourself is,
Speaker A:who is the version of me that can actually hold this?
Speaker A:Who is that version?
Speaker A:So how can you make this year feel different? Not because of what you want, because of who
Speaker A:you're becoming.
Speaker A:And we want to speak all about identity first and strategy second.
Speaker A:Because strategy without the identity work will not create results not that you hold and
Speaker A:results that you can continue.
Speaker A:It is the identity work first.
Speaker A:I've actually been in this Space in the last
Speaker A:few weeks where I've made a really big decision in my business that is huge and
Speaker A:investment wise, time wise, energy wise,
Speaker A:and instead of focusing only on do I have that clear path to make the strategy to make the
Speaker A:investment,
Speaker A:I really spent time on the identity of the version of me who actually is that person.
Speaker A:How does she show up? How does she share?
Speaker A:How does she show up for her business herself? What does that look like?
Speaker A:And so this is just a perfectly timed episode and I know I'm not the only person who is
Speaker A:going to be able to take away something from this episode.
Speaker A:Plus I'm actually sharing it's called a Visionary Soiree night for the High Vibe women
Speaker A:in Waterloo, Ontario.
Speaker A:If you are near Waterloo on January 9th and I
Speaker A:that is the date this episode comes out.
Speaker A:So there might be some tickets left if you want to reach out to me.
Speaker A:I am going to be teaching people how to do vision boards differently and it really does
Speaker A:come down to this piece of it.
Speaker A:So let's talk about what is identity.
Speaker A:Identity is the deepest level of change in
Speaker A:nlp.
Speaker A:That's what it is.
Speaker A:It's the deepest level of change.
Speaker A:And without making change in identity, you're not creating lasting change.
Speaker A:Identity is who you believe that you are.
Speaker A:It's the lens that you wear that shapes your
Speaker A:thoughts, emotions, actions, decisions, choices, possibilities,
Speaker A:all of it language that you use.
Speaker A:It is the lens your identity.
Speaker A:Your identity determines your ceiling, how far you're going to allow yourself to grow and
Speaker A:your floor, your beliefs in yourself.
Speaker A:As you've heard me say many times,
Speaker A:the ceiling is up here.
Speaker A:That's the biggest thought that we have for
Speaker A:our life.
Speaker A:The floor is your deepest belief.
Speaker A:Your floor will be the problem every single
Speaker A:time.
Speaker A:That's your beliefs.
Speaker A:Identity is the lens that you wear that shapes your thoughts and beliefs, actions, choices,
Speaker A:decisions about yourself.
Speaker A:So your identity is determining both.
Speaker A:Your habits don't create your identity.
Speaker A:You can literally go to the gym, you can do all of the habits, check them off.
Speaker A:If you don't see yourself as the version of the person who is doing that,
Speaker A:then it doesn't change your identity.
Speaker A:Your identity actually creates your habits.
Speaker A:So habits don't create the identity.
Speaker A:The identity creates the habits.
Speaker A:So someone who wants to write a book,
Speaker A:right? 82% of the people actually want to write a
Speaker A:book.
Speaker A:Only less than 1% actually do,
Speaker A:versus the identity of an author.
Speaker A:If you see yourself as an author,
Speaker A:and I've witnessed this firsthand,
Speaker A:absolutely firsthand, people come to me with their book completely done and ready to go and
Speaker A:so scared to put it out in the world because of what will everyone think or say?
Speaker A:And there's no criticism in this.
Speaker A:Like my bestseller was eight years ago.
Speaker A:I know that feeling.
Speaker A:I know that feeling.
Speaker A:I just didn't understand identity work then.
Speaker A:But somebody who identifies themselves as an author, honestly, they're like, my book's
Speaker A:going out.
Speaker A:I got people to help.
Speaker A:I don't give a **** what anyone else thinks.
Speaker A:They just have a different mentality,
Speaker A:different results and different way of thinking.
Speaker A:Not better, worse, or the same.
Speaker A:It's just they led with identity.
Speaker A:They can see themselves as that author.
Speaker A:They recognize it clearly.
Speaker A:Okay, so why does identity work have to come before goal setting?
Speaker A:Most people do reverse the process, right? They set the goals that their identity isn't
Speaker A:calibrated for.
Speaker A:So you want to be able to sit in where you are today and feel so grounded and certain and
Speaker A:loving and knowing in yourself that who you are, what you're creating, what you're doing,
Speaker A:is the version of you that you're continuing to grow into.
Speaker A:What do I mean by this? If you're sitting in a space of like, I hate
Speaker A:my life, I'm not where I want to be.
Speaker A:This sucks.
Speaker A:I'm doing something different this year.
Speaker A:That comes from a complete lens of lack.
Speaker A:That is not the identity of the person who has
Speaker A:set massive goals for the year.
Speaker A:So it comes down to anchoring into yourself first,
Speaker A:leading from a grounded space and feeling like, what I have right now,
Speaker A:I'm proud of myself, and I know that I can do more.
Speaker A:I know that I can build more.
Speaker A:So when it comes to this,
Speaker A:we are wanting to set goals that our identity can be calibrated to.
Speaker A:Okay? So vision boards, they don't fail because your
Speaker A:goals are wrong or because they're not good enough or because the vision board doesn't
Speaker A:work.
Speaker A:But if your identity doesn't change, it won't
Speaker A:match the board.
Speaker A:Now, one quick thing about the board, if you've listened to this, you've heard this
Speaker A:before.
Speaker A:Please do not put pictures on your board of other people,
Speaker A:okay? They're not you.
Speaker A:I want.
Speaker A:It needs to be you.
Speaker A:You have to be able to see it through your own eyes and see yourself in the picture.
Speaker A:Both have to happen, associated and dissociated.
Speaker A:That's how our brain starts to feel and understand that this is who I am and this is
Speaker A:what's happening.
Speaker A:Okay? Without identity work, you know what happens.
Speaker A:I can tell you.
Speaker A:But you already know because you've lived it.
Speaker A:I know you have,
Speaker A:because we're all striving and continuing to move forward.
Speaker A:Without identity work, you will self sabotage primarily from a way of self protection.
Speaker A:You will revert to old patterns.
Speaker A:You won't see opportunities that don't match
Speaker A:your self image.
Speaker A:So if you have an opportunity that comes up
Speaker A:and it's like an incredible opportunity for something that you can do,
Speaker A:you can build, you can have.
Speaker A:If your self image doesn't match that,
Speaker A:immediately your message is like, well not yet.
Speaker A:Like that's crazy.
Speaker A:I can't do that yet.
Speaker A:Your nervous system won't feel safe to hold what you're expanding into.
Speaker A:So I have an opportunity that's come up in the last two months and it is for my coaching
Speaker A:certification.
Speaker A:Outspoken,
Speaker A:funny story,
Speaker A:but the way it unfolded almost three years ago, two and a half years ago,
Speaker A:it was unconventional.
Speaker A:I actually went a different route.
Speaker A:I didn't use the board certified way of doing it because of my own personal preference.
Speaker A:Another story.
Speaker A:And as a result I actually have been approached by a company who is looking at
Speaker A:bringing this program on board with their programs and we're still working out details
Speaker A:but the opportunity is unreal.
Speaker A:Wouldn't have existed before.
Speaker A:And I'll tell you, when the opportunity first came up, immediately I felt myself contract
Speaker A:and it was like, holy ****, can I do that? Like can I actually do that?
Speaker A:Can I bring it to that many more people? Can it become global?
Speaker A:And all of a sudden I could feel all these parts of myself contracting in fear and I was
Speaker A:like, oh, interesting.
Speaker A:That's because my identity,
Speaker A:I don't see myself identity wise as the version of me who can do that yet see the
Speaker A:language yet.
Speaker A:So I did work on me first and then I responded, that's a really key piece.
Speaker A:Without identity work, you will self sabotage, self protect.
Speaker A:You'll revert to old patterns.
Speaker A:You won't see opportunities that match your
Speaker A:self image because you don't see that as aligned.
Speaker A:And your nervous system won't be able to hold the expansion.
Speaker A:So your subconscious doesn't follow what you want.
Speaker A:It actually follows what you are.
Speaker A:It follows who you are.
Speaker A:It is always responding to you.
Speaker A:Always.
Speaker A:Your subconscious mind is responding to you.
Speaker A:If you're like immediate contraction, I can't
Speaker A:do that.
Speaker A:Your subconscious mind is right.
Speaker A:Oh, you want evidence of when you can't do that.
Speaker A:Just a second, let me get it.
Speaker A:And that's what it does.
Speaker A:Next piece.
Speaker A:Your identity shapes your sensory reality.
Speaker A:And what does this mean? Sensory?
Speaker A:In NLP we call this vak.
Speaker A:Okay, Visual, auditory and kinesthetic.
Speaker A:Why does that matter?
Speaker A:Because visual Auditory and kinesthetic make up our own internal representation,
Speaker A:how we see the world.
Speaker A:Okay, how we see the world.
Speaker A:So our identity dictates what you see, what you hear and what you feel.
Speaker A:And it's really important that we embody and work with our internal representation,
Speaker A:because that's exactly why.
Speaker A:Have you ever met or had two siblings or two
Speaker A:people who grew up in the same house, two friends?
Speaker A:You have the exact story, exact same circumstances,
Speaker A:and they still see the world differently.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:There's an old story of the two brothers who grew up with, like,
Speaker A:abusive, addictive parents.
Speaker A:And when they were older, they were interviewed.
Speaker A:One was a lawyer and one was in prison.
Speaker A:And when they asked them, why did you do this?
Speaker A:Like, how did you become this version of you?
Speaker A:Both of their answers were, you saw what we grew up in.
Speaker A:So two people can see the exact same thing and still see it differently.
Speaker A:And this is why, bringing in your vak, your visual, auditory and kinesthetic will shape
Speaker A:how you see the world.
Speaker A:It'll change your internal representation,
Speaker A:and that will help you to change your identity.
Speaker A:Because remember, your identity is the deepest,
Speaker A:deepest part of your system, Your whole subconscious mind, your system and how you see
Speaker A:the world.
Speaker A:So if your identity,
Speaker A:for example, is that I'm not good enough,
Speaker A:then you'll see proof of it everywhere.
Speaker A:If your identity is like, I'm the kind of
Speaker A:woman who follows through.
Speaker A:I'm the kind of woman who gets **** done.
Speaker A:I'm resourceful,
Speaker A:you will see different opportunities.
Speaker A:If your identity is, I trust myself, I've got myself, I feel safe within myself.
Speaker A:You feel grounded and certain, even when there's uncertainty.
Speaker A:If your identity is that I do feel safe,
Speaker A:whether things are working out or not,
Speaker A:that will show up as well.
Speaker A:You know, one of my clients said, I feel safe
Speaker A:when the money's coming in.
Speaker A:I'm like, great, that's amazing.
Speaker A:What happens when it's not.
Speaker A:That is an identity.
Speaker A:The identity is the filter.
Speaker A:It's how you see the world.
Speaker A:It's the instructions you give your nervous
Speaker A:system.
Speaker A:And the identity becomes the creator of what you see and what you go do.
Speaker A:How you see yourself,
Speaker A:how you see yourself and what you are capable of creating will change your identity, which
Speaker A:will allow you to become in alignment with what you're creating, with what those goals
Speaker A:are.
Speaker A:So identity work, what does it actually look like?
Speaker A:Well, here's an example.
Speaker A:I Money is the easiest way to do it because
Speaker A:people connect to it and they see it, but substitute anything into it.
Speaker A:If you say, I want 100k business instead I am the woman who leads a hundred k business.
Speaker A:The identity generates the behavior of what you're doing.
Speaker A:So when we're in this space,
Speaker A:you want to make it as like all of the sensories, the V A K as much as possible.
Speaker A:What do you see, feel and hear? Not I want a hundred k business.
Speaker A:Instead I am standing in my gifts, in my goals and using my voice and my message to reach
Speaker A:more people,
Speaker A:help more people.
Speaker A:As a result,
Speaker A:it will generate a hundred K or more.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:You have to change the wording a little bit.
Speaker A:So what does she say, what does she speak, how does she show up for herself, what is she
Speaker A:hearing, how does she lead herself?
Speaker A:It's not act as if to fake it till you make it.
Speaker A:It is like setting up and being clear of the identity of the person.
Speaker A:How does she make decisions, how does she think and then work it backwards.
Speaker A:And I thought you said think this, that you have to make this like massive scary leap and
Speaker A:that's how you grow your business.
Speaker A:No, it, no,
Speaker A:because you might.
Speaker A:But what might happen then is your nervous system isn't ready to hold what you're
Speaker A:creating.
Speaker A:Your internal representation, your identity of
Speaker A:how you see yourself does not match the version of you who has this,
Speaker A:what you desire.
Speaker A:So instead,
Speaker A:how can you actually anchor in on making one decision a day, leading yourself differently,
Speaker A:changing your words, catching it on a consistent basis, interrupting an old thought
Speaker A:pattern,
Speaker A:choosing identity level responses,
Speaker A:good boundaries in place, self respect, self leadership.
Speaker A:What are the things,
Speaker A:the micro things that look like they're no big deal to you, but they will add up 10,000 times
Speaker A:more than the really big leap.
Speaker A:I promise you they will.
Speaker A:I'm so good, I'm going to tell you right now, I am so good at catching language.
Speaker A:I can catch you in your language.
Speaker A:I can ask you a question, we can reframe it
Speaker A:and move on.
Speaker A:Why can I do this?
Speaker A:Because I've had a lot of practice.
Speaker A:Because my language was actually absolute ****
Speaker A:a decade ago.
Speaker A:It was so bad that I had to rework with a ton
Speaker A:of reps.
Speaker A:And I can tell you honestly,
Speaker A:all of those baby steps that felt like I was doing nothing,
Speaker A:they transformed me language wise in ways that I know I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing
Speaker A:today if it wasn't for that work.
Speaker A:So those tiny baby steps, they don't look like
Speaker A:much, but they're huge.
Speaker A:Now,
Speaker A:as we're building out this identity in these baby steps, what do you see?
Speaker A:Feel in here? We're putting this together.
Speaker A:Your identity can't hold it.
Speaker A:If your nervous system doesn't feel safe to do
Speaker A:it.
Speaker A:So that's the next question.
Speaker A:All right, amazing.
Speaker A:You want the 100k year.
Speaker A:You want to help 20 clients.
Speaker A:That's amazing.
Speaker A:That version of you.
Speaker A:What does she see, feel, and hear? Okay, great.
Speaker A:We're clear on that now.
Speaker A:It happens tomorrow.
Speaker A:How do you feel?
Speaker A:I love asking this question.
Speaker A:And people are like, oh, not yet, not yet.
Speaker A:I'm like, okay, great.
Speaker A:What's locking you?
Speaker A:What's holding, holding you back?
Speaker A:Probably your nervous system freaked out a little bit, it contracted.
Speaker A:And because of that, you will block yourself from opportunities and possibilities.
Speaker A:So instead, how can you slow your system down?
Speaker A:How can you breathe and anchor in?
Speaker A:How can you associate growth and expansion in your business with safety?
Speaker A:How can you anchor that in? How can you build capacity?
Speaker A:How can you see how you've already built capacity?
Speaker A:And all of these things will help your nervous system to hold what you are creating?
Speaker A:Then next,
Speaker A:your language, the words that you're using, is everything right.
Speaker A:I am trying.
Speaker A:No, I'm doing right.
Speaker A:I am becoming.
Speaker A:I am, I am is one of the strongest things that you can take.
Speaker A:Speak in present tense as though it's already done.
Speaker A:Not speaking in terms of I am going to do,
Speaker A:I will have.
Speaker A:That's all future tense.
Speaker A:Speak as though it's already done.
Speaker A:The fastest tool for subconscious rewiring is your language.
Speaker A:It is literally your language, the words that you are speaking.
Speaker A:And do you know who can control that? That'd be you.
Speaker A:That's you.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:You're the one that can control that.
Speaker A:And if not, start with what is the one thing that you say that is not supporting you in the
Speaker A:direction that you want to move in? And how can you shift that?
Speaker A:How can you catch it? Interrupt the pattern, Ask yourself if it's
Speaker A:true.
Speaker A:Is it really true?
Speaker A:Where is there evidence of the opposite? And then can you rewrite it in a new,
Speaker A:empowering way?
Speaker A:So the identity first version,
Speaker A:putting identity as a top priority of visioning,
Speaker A:Ask. Instead of saying, what do I want?
Speaker A:How about this? Who do I choose to be this year?
Speaker A:What am I creating this year?
Speaker A:How am I going to lead myself this year? What does that look like?
Speaker A:What do I see, feel, and hear?
Speaker A:Your vision board is a mirror of your identity.
Speaker A:That's what you want it to be.
Speaker A:It's an activation and a mirror of your
Speaker A:identity.
Speaker A:It's like a bridge from where you are right
Speaker A:now, where you're going,
Speaker A:but there's a bridge to get there,
Speaker A:right? There's a bridge that feels like you are on
Speaker A:your way.
Speaker A:If you're somebody who has not, for example,
Speaker A:been actively health and fitness taking care of yourself, and you put on your vision board
Speaker A:that you want to go to the CrossFit games, for example, or you want to go compete in the
Speaker A:Olympics,
Speaker A:your brain literally looks at it and says, you're a liar.
Speaker A:Because that's just.
Speaker A:There's no bridge there.
Speaker A:Instead,
Speaker A:how can you build the bridge that is Identity Work in process okay,
Speaker A:if your identity is grounded and unbothered,
Speaker A:this is really important.
Speaker A:You will not chase shiny objects.
Speaker A:You will not get distracted and pulled off.
Speaker A:You will not fall into comparison.
Speaker A:You won't panic and feel unsafe when things
Speaker A:aren't happening in the way that you think that they're supposed to.
Speaker A:And you won't collapse under pressure.
Speaker A:You just won't.
Speaker A:You know who you're becoming, and you're in that process of becoming.
Speaker A:So this year,
Speaker A:please, there's a lot in this episode,
Speaker A:and I've just given you kind of the outline of what I'm gonna be teaching at the High Vibe
Speaker A:event this year.
Speaker A:We're not just setting goals.
Speaker A:We're becoming the version of ourselves who can hold it, sustain them, and expand beyond
Speaker A:them.
Speaker A:Like, well beyond them.
Speaker A:Right? You can quantum leap.
Speaker A:I'm telling you, you can.
Speaker A:If you do the identity work first,
Speaker A:you seal up any of the cracks in the foundation of your belief in yourself.
Speaker A:You focus on what you see, feel and hear.
Speaker A:You embody the identity of the person who already has it.
Speaker A:That's how you lead yourself.
Speaker A:You can become the version of you who can hold them, sustain them, and expand beyond them.
Speaker A:Your identity is the strategy, the blueprint, and it is honestly how you step into that
Speaker A:future version of yourself.
Speaker A:It is all available.
Speaker A:All of it is available for you, I promise.
Speaker A:I cannot wait to hear how this episode lands.
Speaker A:And I have so much goodness coming this year.
Speaker A:I'm so grateful for you for being a part of this show, for helping me to share it, for
Speaker A:putting it out there and just allowing me to continue to do the work that I know I am here
Speaker A:to do.
Speaker A:I appreciate you so much.
Speaker A:Have an incredible day.
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