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Dustin HinerWelcome to the master passive income show.
Dustin HinerThis is Dustin Hiner, and I'm here to help you create wealth, afford anything you want in life by investing in real estate, and achieve financial freedom.
Dustin HinerAnd in today's show, we're gonna be talking all about how you can have a full time job, invest in real estate, reach financial independence, and do it successfully like many other real estate investors have done in the past.
Dustin HinerAnd we're going to show you how to do it as well.
Dustin HinerAll right, let's start the show.
Speaker BWelcome to the Master Passive Income podcast, where we talk about investing in real estate with a special focus on making enough money so you can quit your job and live the dream life.
Speaker BAnd now, here is your host, Dustin Hiner.
Dustin HinerWhat's up?
Dustin HinerSuper blessed as always to have you here with me on the show.
Dustin HinerAnd I love the fact that you come and listen to this every single week coming back, and hopefully you're getting encouragement.
Dustin HinerYou're also getting the knowledge to invest in real estate, to become financially independent.
Dustin HinerNow, I gotta tell you something that happened recently, and I wanna absolutely apologize.
Dustin HinerLike, seriously, I really apologize.
Dustin HinerI forgot to mention something big that has been going on that we just launched that.
Dustin HinerOh, I just forgot.
Dustin HinerSo here is what I forgot to mention here on the podcast.
Dustin HinerNow, if you're on the newsletter, I send this stuff out so you can see what we're doing, how we're trying to help you to become better real estate investors and become successful unemployed.
Dustin HinerSo on the newsletter, I've been posting this out now, here is really what I apologize, not sharing with you guys.
Dustin HinerSo we started a brand new real estate investor meetup.
Dustin HinerIt's a monthly meetup and we're starting in Charlotte, North Carolina.
Dustin HinerAnd it's a monthly meetup.
Dustin HinerIt's a monthly real estate investor meetup where you're going to be connecting with other investors, hearing great speakers.
Dustin HinerAnd it's called the real estate wealth Billers Club, Rube Club.
Dustin HinerObviously, you've got Rubecon.
Dustin HinerIt's hopefully not gonna get too confusing on you.
Dustin HinerBut the real estate wealth builders club that we've put together, and it's in Charlotte, North Carolina, it's at the university Hilton.
Dustin HinerSo I flew there last week and I went and I gave the inaugural message.
Dustin HinerI talked.
Dustin HinerI gave the talk about how they.
Speaker BCan invest in real estate, about how.
Dustin HinerThey can utilize their investing to become financially independent, how to do it the right way, how to make sure you build the business.
Dustin HinerI literally explained every single bit of the way.
Dustin HinerNow, that is so exciting that we have a monthly meetup now, and we're looking to start other ones, like one in Denver.
Dustin HinerWe're gonna look to start another one in Phoenix, Arizona, possibly St.
Dustin HinerLouis, and possibly Los Angeles, even though I know Los Angeles is very, very huge, but we are looking to start those in those areas, because we want you to be connected.
Dustin HinerWe want you to be connected to other investors.
Dustin HinerNow, this is not on Zoom.
Dustin HinerThis is literally a location you'll be driving to and connecting with other people.
Dustin HinerIt was a blast.
Dustin HinerLike, honestly, it felt like a mini Rubicon when we went there.
Dustin HinerMe, Charles Rose Junior, was there, Charles Seaman, William Parmer was there, and so many other Rubicon attendees that live in Charlotte, they wanted something like this.
Dustin HinerAnd that's exactly the same way that Rub Khanda started the conference started, because everybody wanted it.
Dustin HinerSo I did it and was fantastic.
Dustin HinerAnd same thing with Rube Club.
Dustin HinerI had so many people dying for a monthly meetup because they wanted to see themselves grow and be able to quit their job.
Dustin HinerNow, that is what's leading us into today, because as I was talking at the roop club and talking with everybody about how they're working a job currently and how they want to eventually quit their job, and I tell them it's not the best idea to quit right away.
Dustin HinerJust quit right now so you can, you know, invest in real estate.
Dustin HinerI'll be completely honest and say, I didn't do that, and I don't think you should, because there are so many amazing reasons why having a job while you're investing in real estate makes investing so much easier.
Dustin HinerI mean, just quickly.
Dustin HinerAnd I'm gonna get into it, but just quickly.
Dustin HinerIf you have a w two.
Dustin HinerOh, my goodness.
Dustin HinerMortgage brokers, it's like, if you have anything other than w two, they usually say no, or it takes, like, six months to get a mortgage because there's so much documentation.
Dustin HinerIf you have a w two, basically a job that gives you a w two at the end of the year for your taxes.
Dustin HinerOh, you have that income check.
Speaker BLet me give you a mortgage.
Dustin HinerAnd as an investor, if you guys remember, two weeks ago, I talked about the investor roadmap, how you like playing monopoly.
Dustin HinerWe want to go down the roadmap of starting with smaller deals, getting to larger deals, or mid sized deals, and getting bigger deals, eventually getting into huge, huge, large deals.
Dustin HinerLike, I just bought the 355 unit apartment complex.
Dustin HinerYou want to go down that path of the roadmap, but you got to start somewhere.
Dustin HinerI suggest starting with single family homes, so simple to do.
Dustin HinerAnd if you have a actually have a job, something that allows you to have income, that banks will be able to say, yes, we'll lend you money because your job will make sure that we'll get the money because you actually.
Speaker BHave money coming in, we're going to get that from you.
Dustin HinerAnd there are many other great reasons which we'll get into.
Dustin HinerIf you are interested in joining the real estate wealth boost club Rube clubs, you can go to the link in the description.
Dustin HinerRubecon.com club.
Dustin HinerFirst one is in Charlotte.
Dustin HinerIt's the first, sorry, the third Monday of every single month.
Dustin HinerStarting up, I think it starts at 06:00.
Dustin HinerNetworking, speakers, all that great stuff.
Dustin HinerLike it is like a mini Rubcon.
Dustin HinerYou need to be going to those.
Dustin HinerAnd then hopefully, lord willing, we'll be starting one in Denver.
Speaker BDenver might be one of the next.
Dustin HinerCities, and Phoenix as well.
Dustin HinerYou know, I live in Phoenix and honestly, I'm moving to Nashville.
Dustin HinerAs I'm literally speaking this out.
Dustin HinerMy house is torn apart.
Dustin HinerLike, we're packing things up, we're getting it painted, all that great stuff to move at the end of October.
Dustin HinerWe're literally moving to right next to Nashville called Murfreesboro's, a city called Murfreesboro.
Dustin HinerAnd I will more than likely start up a new roop club in Nashville.
Dustin HinerSo we're going to have these clubs that are going to be monthly meetups that are going to help you along the path to financial freedom, especially if you want to quit your job.
Dustin HinerIf that's your main goal is to quit your job.
Dustin HinerYou need to get around other people.
Dustin HinerThey're gonna help you get there faster.
Dustin HinerI did it myself, and it took me eight years before I had enough properties because I was just doing it all by myself.
Dustin HinerI was just talking to Charles Rose junior.
Dustin HinerHe literally has 29 units.
Dustin HinerCan you believe that?
Speaker B29 units.
Dustin HinerAnd he started investing with me back in 2000, late 2019 into 2020.
Dustin HinerAnd now, what's that, four years now?
Dustin HinerMaybe it's been three and a half years since he really started going at it.
Dustin HinerAnd he has 29 units.
Dustin HinerWIlliam Palmer I think he has 1415 units and a mobile home park.
Dustin HinerI mean, these students, this is not the exception.
Dustin HinerLike, these guys are setting the pace.
Dustin HinerObviously, other students are doing it too.
Dustin HinerAnd that's the reason why I have Rubcon the conference to help you.
Dustin HinerAnd we actually just launched the tickets.
Dustin HinerSo if you go to rubcon.com, you'll be get your tickets April 10 through the 12th of next year.
Dustin HinerIn St.
Dustin HinerLouis is gonna be fantastic.
Dustin HinerSo much better than last year.
Dustin HinerI mean, we try to make it better and better every year.
Dustin HinerWe also have Rube club, we have the real estate wealth builders coaching.
Dustin HinerThat's gonna give you the fast track to actually get there.
Dustin HinerSo we have everything for you.
Dustin HinerCheck the links in the description.
Dustin HinerI'll give you all that stuff.
Dustin HinerBut I wanted to share that with you because you're not alone.
Dustin HinerAnd if you're thinking, well, I have a job, I wanna quit as soon as possible, well, this is the episode to share with you.
Dustin HinerDon't quit just yet.
Dustin HinerI'm going to give you the light at the end of the tunnel, the.
Speaker BGoal of where you're going to get.
Dustin HinerTo, and I'm going to give you the path to get to that goal of being a financially independent because there's a lot of steps along the way.
Speaker BAnd if you're going to do it.
Dustin HinerRight, you're going to be in the end, so successful.
Dustin HinerNow, when I was trying to quit my job, literally had four kids.
Dustin HinerNow we have five.
Dustin HinerWe're really blessed to have our fifth one.
Dustin HinerNow.
Dustin HinerAt the same time, my wife would not let me quit because we needed to.
Dustin HinerWe need to pay the bills, we.
Speaker BNeed to have food on our table.
Dustin HinerWe need to have roof overheads.
Dustin HinerAnd in doing that, though, I found so many great reasons why having a job, even though the job was a bummer, even though that's the case, oh, my goodness, we bought so many more properties because of my job.
Dustin HinerAnd I'm going to walk you through every single step how to do this as well.
Dustin HinerHow to invest in real estate with a full time job.
Dustin HinerAnd I want to pause for a quick second and share that.
Dustin HinerHonestly, I really want you to invest real estate.
Speaker BNow, my new goal is to help 1 million people invest in real estate.
Speaker BSo two things I would ask from you.
Speaker BNumber one, if you get anything out.
Dustin HinerOf this episode, please share it with somebody else.
Dustin HinerJust say, hey, you know, check out Dustin and master passive income.
Speaker BHe really wants to help a million people to invest in real estate.
Speaker BThat's number one.
Speaker BNumber two, I want to get you.
Dustin HinerTo invest in real estate.
Speaker BGet my real estate investing course.
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Dustin HinerFor free.
Dustin HinerText the word rental.
Dustin HinerRental 23377.
Speaker BRental to 3377.
Speaker BI'll literally give you my course, show you how to find the area of the country to invest, how to build the business first.
Speaker BYou know, I always talk about that.
Dustin HinerAnd how to find the right properties.
Speaker BHow to make sure you're getting experts.
Dustin HinerDo the work for you and scale.
Speaker BThe business to where you're making dollar 250 or more in passive income.
Dustin HinerScale it to quit your job.
Dustin HinerI'll literally get to you or go to masterpassiveincome.com freecourse.
Dustin HinerObviously it'll be in the description, but I really, really want you to invest in real estate because the more that actual normal everyday people own real estate.
Speaker BThat are good landlords, the better everybody's life gets.
Speaker BNow, I know just about every single person has a job, full time, part time, or whatever.
Speaker BI even do have some students that are retired that they are basically living on Social Security and they still want to grow their business.
Speaker BThey want to invest in real estate.
Speaker BAnd here I am trying to help them to get started even though they don't have a job.
Speaker BNow I'm going to tell you that having a full time job is actually fantastic in order to start a real estate business.
Speaker BEven though you and I both know that the word job is almost like a four letter word.
Speaker BIt's a job.
Speaker BIt's horrible.
Speaker BBut the acronym of job, what I like to share with everybody is that job is J o B.
Speaker BYou're just over broke.
Speaker BI mean, your boss is only paying you enough to keep you working and not paying you too much.
Speaker BThat's going to be taking out of his or her pocket.
Speaker BIf you're working for the government, they're only going to pay you just enough to keep you working and you're going to be like, man, this job is horrible, but I can't give up or I can't quit because, you know, I make enough money here.
Speaker BWell, if you're about to quit, you know, your boss might come to you and say, hey, you know, I can't have you quit.
Speaker BLet me give you a raise.
Speaker BWell, why didn't you give me a raise like a year ago when I needed it, you know, and so your job is just overbook.
Speaker BBut there are many great things about having a job and I, I utilize them as much as I could as I built my business.
Speaker BSo even though job is a four letter word, it stands for just over broke.
Speaker BThere are some good things about having a job and how having a job can actually help you build your business even faster.
Speaker BYou know, imagine if you were on Social Security.
Speaker BYou know, you're older and you're on Social Security.
Speaker BYou don't have the ability to make more money or get a raise or anything like that.
Speaker BWell, it's harder to invest because you have limited funds coming in.
Speaker BSo here are some good things about having a full time job.
Speaker BSo to give you a little encouragement.
Speaker BSo, number one, you have full time job security.
Speaker BYou know, it's security in you.
Speaker BEven though they can fire you at any time.
Speaker BYou have the ability to rely on your job to bring money in.
Speaker BAnd on top of that, your money that is coming in could hopefully be able to save, to invest and buy more properties.
Speaker BYou know, if you're on a fixed income, then that fixed income, it's hard to actually get more money to buy more properties.
Speaker BYou have to figure out some other unique and creative ways to find and buy properties.
Speaker BSo you have a lot of security when you have a job.
Speaker BAnd that's one of the biggest reasons why people stay in jobs for their entire lives until they have to retire, because they're a little old to keep working is because it's job security.
Speaker BIt's security that money's coming in all the time.
Speaker BPlus you have things like health insurance, a full time job.
Speaker BAlso, it fuels your growth for your investing business.
Speaker BLike it fuels the ability to buy more properties faster.
Speaker BYou know, if you get a raise, do not spend that money.
Speaker BLike, if you get an extra hundred dollars in your paycheck every single two weeks, that's $200 extra a month.
Speaker BDon't think, man, I could go get a, another car or, you know, get a better car and spend that money.
Speaker BNo, don't think like that.
Speaker BThink that that $200 is extrade every single month that you can put in a savings account, a money market account or someplace that you can touch that money in the future, pull it out and buy an investment property.
Speaker BSo the job that you have, use that to buy more properties.
Speaker BUse that to fuel your growth of your business so much faster than you could if you did not have any extra money coming in.
Speaker BHere's another great thing, and I've used this over and over again.
Speaker BNow, you've heard me talk about the Brrrr strategy, basically cycling your money over and over and over again, which I've done many, many times.
Speaker BIt's so much easier to get loans when you have a job as opposed to when you don't have a job.
Speaker BYou know, when you don't have a job, the bank is going to look at you and say, how are you going to repay this loan?
Speaker BYou could tell them, well, I'm going to use this loan to buy this property.
Speaker BAnd that person's got another person.
Speaker BI'm going to get somebody else to live in that property.
Speaker BThey're going to give me money every single month and I'm going to give it to you, they would say, well, that's a all well and good, but there's no proven track record that's actually going to work.
Speaker BNow, unless you've been an investor for quite a long time, like I have, they need something like a w two or your paycheck, two years of employment to prove that you're going to continually be working so that you can pay off the mortgage that you're going to be borrowing from them.
Speaker BSo before I quit my job, I actually postponed quitting my job for an extra six months because I was working on financing for properties, pulling all the money out of those altogether to buy more properties.
Speaker BAnd I knew that if I did quit my job in the middle of that refinance process of pulling money out, they would say, hey, what happened?
Speaker BWell, we're not going to give you the loan.
Speaker BAnd I really wanted the loan because I needed to buy more properties or I wanted to buy more properties.
Speaker BAll that money equity sitting in those properties I'd already owned, it was just sitting there and I was not utilizing it.
Speaker BSo I put it off six more months to quit my job in order to get that financing done.
Speaker BAs soon as that financing was done, literally, I'm going to say like the next day or next two days, I said, hey, boss, I'm quitting my job, you know, I'll give you two weeks notice.
Speaker BAnd so I put in a two weeks notice and then quit my job right after that.
Speaker BIt was a necessity in order to get my bank financing.
Speaker BNow, now that I have quit my job and I now what the banks do, they just look at your tax returns to make sure that you have money coming in.
Speaker BThey just, all they really want to do is verify that you have money that can repay what they're, what you're borrowing from them.
Speaker BSo I use my tax returns.
Speaker BSo those are just a few things that are great about having a job.
Speaker BYou know, you have constant money coming in.
Speaker BLike I would suggest, don't quit until you actually have enough money to replace your income in order to invest in real estate with a full time job.
Speaker BThis is the biggest thing.
Speaker BSo if you take anything away from this podcast, any big lesson that can help you literally change your life with rental properties, this is the key that I'm going to give you.
Speaker BYou do not have a side business like a side real estate or I invest on the side, you do not have that.
Speaker BWhat I'm going to tell you is it's your mindset switching from you having a job and then having a side business.
Speaker BLike, give you example, if somebody, you stranger that you don't know comes up to you, you start talking to each other, you know, like a Christmas party or some, some sort of party, you guys are saying, hey, so what do you do?
Speaker BAnd the other guy tells you what they do and the person asks you, what do you do?
Speaker BYou don't want to say, well, I work for, you know, this banking company.
Speaker BI work for the government, or I work for this, or this is my job.
Speaker BDon't answer it like that.
Speaker BOr get that out of your mind.
Speaker BThat your fresh answer is what your current job is.
Speaker BYou want to get that out of your mind.
Speaker BWhat you want in your mind is that you are a real estate investor.
Speaker BSo when anybody asks me before I quit my job, what I do for a living, I say, I'm a real estate investor.
Speaker BAnd I say, oh, wow, that's, that's great.
Speaker BWhat do you invest in?
Speaker BI invest in rental properties, cash flow every single month.
Speaker BSo that cash flow every single month helps me to continue to build my business even bigger and bigger.
Speaker BAnd if the person asks you so, you know, do you, is that your only job?
Speaker BYou say, no, I have a side job.
Speaker BYou know, I have a side job working for, you know, this company or that company.
Speaker BSo what happens is you have a change in mindset going from being that person that has that job.
Speaker BLike, you're identified as the person that, with that job to now you are a real estate investor with a side job.
Speaker BEven though the bulk of your money comes in from your side job, it doesn't matter.
Speaker BYou are an investor.
Speaker BYou are what you tell other people.
Speaker BAnd here's what happened to me.
Speaker BAs soon as I made that shift in my mindset and started telling everybody, instead of kind of being like, hiding it because, oh, I only have one or two or three properties.
Speaker BAs soon as I made that shift and started telling people, no, I am an investor with a side job, so many more things happened to me where deals fell in my lap or money fell in my lap, not necessarily money fell in my lap, but I had people wanting to give me money to help them invest and be a part of my business.
Speaker BSo many great things happened when I started telling myself, I am an investor.
Speaker BSo I want to encourage you, if you take anything away, you are a real estate investor with a side job.
Speaker BStop telling people that you work for this company or this is your job over there.
Speaker BNo, you are a real estate investor.
Speaker BAnd trust me, things are going to change because that gets into your mindset now.
Speaker BYour mind has changed where now you are that investor, you are what you want to be.
Speaker BAnd that gets into our next thought of how you can invest in real estate with a full time job is your mindset.
Speaker BYour mindset is what's going to actually get you to where you create deals.
Speaker BYou get deals done, you get things done where nobody else thought they could happen.
Speaker BSo here's a great saying that I really, really love.
Speaker BThere's two of them that kind of go hand in hand.
Speaker BNumber one, necessity is the mother of invention.
Speaker BSo if you're telling yourself, I really want to quit my job, I'm tired of working for this boss.
Speaker BI'm tired of working this job.
Speaker BAnd it's a necessity.
Speaker BLike you are making yourself quit.
Speaker BQuit your job.
Speaker BWell, you're going to find the way, and the second quote is, where there is a will, there is a way.
Speaker BYou're going to find a way through that hurdle or through that roadblock or jumping over that hurdle.
Speaker BI kind of mix those two analogies together.
Speaker BBut you're going to jump over that hurdle, or you're going to get through that roadblock.
Speaker BBecause with necessity being the mother invention, like it's necessary, like you know that eventually, at some time, your job can fire you or you can get laid off or something bad can happen, or God forbid something happened to you, you couldn't work because you were ill.
Speaker BWell, with necessity, there's a mother invention.
Speaker BSo you got to think in your head, in the future, I might not have this job and I want to change my life.
Speaker BNow, let me start working towards it.
Speaker BAnd where there's a will, where you saying, in ten years I'm going to quit my job, or in five years I'm going to quit my job.
Speaker BWhere there's a will, you will make the way.
Speaker BBecause what's amazing is, as you put your mind to it, as you start thinking of how to get around these roadblocks, you're going to see these problems start to dissolve in front of you because you figure out ways around them.
Speaker BThat's the great thing about being an entrepreneur.
Speaker BLike us, as real estate investors, we're entrepreneurs, we see a problem in front of us, where most people, they'd see that problem, they'd stop.
Speaker BWhat we do as entrepreneurs, as real estate investors, we see a problem.
Speaker BWe see it as an opportunity, opportunity to make money, to change lives, to make everything better.
Speaker BSo it's really hard, though, and I, trust me, I've been there.
Speaker BWhere you don't have any properties right now, it's hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel because really, you're not even in the tunnel yet.
Speaker BYou're not even going because you don't have a property.
Speaker BMaybe you have one or two or three properties, and you're, you see a dim, dim light at the end of the tunnel.
Speaker BYou know, very, very small.
Speaker BYou're getting a little like maybe 200, $300 a month, every single month coming in from one or two properties.
Speaker BWell, that light gets bigger and bigger at the end of the tunnel.
Speaker BThe light gets bigger and bigger as you get more properties.
Speaker BSo your mindset needs to be shifting from where you have a job and a side business to where now, you are a real estate investor and you buy that first property.
Speaker BOnce you buy that first property, you start running down that tunnel, and each property you buy after that, the light at the end of the tunnel gets bigger and bigger and bigger.
Speaker BYour emotions start to well up like, man, I just got to get more properties.
Speaker BThis is fantastic.
Speaker BMy life is changing.
Speaker BThe more properties I get allows me to buy even more properties.
Speaker BThis is fantastic.
Speaker BAnd this is what I want for you.
Speaker BI want to see this change in your mindset so that instead of giving up, no, you're dedicated now, instead of, well, there's a roadblock and I'm stopping here.
Speaker BNo, you're going to bust through that roadblock because you're persistent.
Speaker BYou're going to keep going.
Speaker BAnd so with your mindset, you want to develop inside yourself a dedication, a dedication to getting this job done, getting this business built, buying that next property.
Speaker BHey, I don't have, you might be thinking in your head, I don't have financing for this property, this deal that I found, well, that's a problem that you're going to have to figure out.
Speaker BYou see an opportunity, how can I get past this roadblock?
Speaker BHow can I answer this problem?
Speaker BHow can I get this opportunity changed into something that's going to be making me money?
Speaker BAnd the next one is persistence.
Speaker BBeing persistent is one of the ways.
Speaker BLike I am, I'm just stubborn.
Speaker BI'll just keep going and keep going until I make it work.
Speaker BThat's just how I am.
Speaker BAnd I know you're very, very similar because we're entrepreneurs.
Speaker BWe're going to get things done where most people won't.
Speaker BNow, also, along with that, your mindset, you need to change your mind and you change your understanding of how to actually invest.
Speaker BWhen I first got started, I had no clue how to invest.
Speaker BAnd really, really, honestly, through the school of hard knocks, I really learned exactly how to do it.
Speaker BAnd I've made my business just a well running machine where it runs without me.
Speaker BSo what I suggest, along with your mindset, getting, being dedicated, persistence, and making sure you have the will to get done, you need to get education.
Speaker BYou need to get as much education as possible so that you can really get through those roadblocks without having to bang your head against a roadblock time and time again.
Speaker BBecause if you get with somebody like me, like all my students, most, I would say majority, if not every single one of their problems that they come up with, I've either gone through it or I figured out a way around it.
Speaker BI've been in your shoes.
Speaker BAnd so all my students, when they come up and say, well, here's this issue.
Speaker BI don't have financing here or here's this deal, but this seller wants this.
Speaker BAnd I'll say, this is what I've done.
Speaker BThis is how it worked for me, and this is a way I could have done a little better.
Speaker BThis is a way that worked out perfectly.
Speaker BYou should go this route.
Speaker BAnd so you need to have education and also get coaching, get somebody that's going to help you get past this next hurdle.
Speaker BThat somebody has already been there, you know, like somebody that's already through the tunnel.
Speaker BThey're at the light at, they're, you know, beyond the tunnel, they're waving back at you, say, come on, you can do it.
Speaker BSo get education, get knowledge so that when those roadblocks come, you already know how to, you know, bust through them or jump over that hurdle.
Speaker BGet education in your brain so that you can get past that.
Speaker BAll right.
Speaker BNow here's a big one for lots and lots of people.
Speaker BListen to my podcast.
Speaker BIt's scheduling in the time to get this done, scheduling the time to build your business.
Speaker BNow, I know lots of people are working, hopefully, you know, 30, 40, 50 hours, but some people are even working less or more.
Speaker BYou know, if you're only working 20 hours a week because your job won't allow you to work anymore, well, you have lots of time to develop your business.
Speaker BBut what if you're working 70, 80 hours a week because it's just that demanding?
Speaker BWell, I've been there.
Speaker BTrust me.
Speaker BI had, I had a business where I was working for the government, which I was working like, I don't know, it was like 10 hours a day.
Speaker BOn top of that, I had a retail establishment that I was there basically from morning to night and in the middle had that job.
Speaker BSo 14 hours a day I was working.
Speaker BBut in the meantime, on my lunch break, when I was working my job in the government, I'd go and do work for my real estate, trying to find new properties, trying to build my business.
Speaker BAnd so every single waking moment I saw the light in the under tunnel, I said, you know what?
Speaker BI'm going to keep working towards that.
Speaker BEvery single waking moment that I had that I wasn't putting into a business or to my family, I focused on building my business.
Speaker BSo I'm going to be honest and say what I suggest.
Speaker BThis is what I tell all my students.
Speaker BIf you spend 1 hour a week building your business or learning, that's not going to be enough.
Speaker BIt's going to take you a very, very long time.
Speaker BTime is precious.
Speaker BThat's the most expensive commodity that you can spend is your time.
Speaker BNow, wouldn't you rather have quit your job sooner rather than later?
Speaker BYou know, if you can quit your job in 20 years, then you're going to work towards that.
Speaker BBut what if you can cut that in half and you could quit your job in ten years because you spent more time studying, more time building your business?
Speaker BOf course, wouldn't it be better quitting your job ten years earlier than you normally would or 20 years earlier?
Speaker BI quit when I was 37 years old because I pushed myself.
Speaker BI spent the time I studied.
Speaker BI really tried to build my business as fast as possible.
Speaker BSo this is what I tell, I'm telling you right now.
Speaker BI would if I were you, spend five to 6 hours each week building your business.
Speaker BI mean, when you think about it, five to 6 hours a week, that's one lunch a week.
Speaker BYou know, if you're, if your lunch at your work is an hour long and, or your commute is an hour or something like that, but it's, you know, 5 hours, you have seven days a week.
Speaker BIf you just took your lunch, you know, Monday through Friday, 1 hour of your lunch and build your business that way, in that amount of time, you're going to have a business very, very quickly and run much faster.
Speaker BNow, if you're thinking, some people may say that they don't have five or 6 hours, well, here's the thing.
Speaker BYou need to make the time.
Speaker BI don't know where you're going to get it.
Speaker BI don't know how I got it.
Speaker BI just did it.
Speaker BI said, you know what?
Speaker BThis is important to me.
Speaker BI'm going to make the time.
Speaker BIt could be, you know, once you put the kids to bed, you spend an hour or 2 hours studying, building your business, whatever it might be you need to make the time because honestly, this is important.
Speaker BYou know, it's important to change your life.
Speaker BNow, if I didn't spend this time, I would not be quit.
Speaker BLike, I would not have quit my job in nine years when I was 37 years old, I quit my job.
Speaker BAnd every second that I spent building my business before I quit my job is so worth it.
Speaker BCan't tell you how amazing is to not have a mortgage, like literally paying off your house because you have enough money coming in and not have a mortgage and also not have to worry about bills.
Speaker BI mean, just imagine not having to have a mortgage, not have to worry about bills because money coming in, not have to work because you have money coming in.
Speaker BYou have an automatic business coming and bringing that money in you.
Speaker BI just, I can't stress enough at how amazing life is when you have all these.
Speaker BWhen money's taken care of.
Speaker BBecause you have a business spending five to 6 hours a week, you need to make the time to do that.
Speaker BNext in scheduling your time, you need to basically organize and become efficient in your time management.
Speaker BIt could be where you also make it a routine where as you're driving to work, let's say you have a 30 minutes commute driving to work, you're listening to the podcast, or you're getting education, or you're calling up mortgage brokers, or you're calling up property managers, that's the time that you're doing.
Speaker BIt could be, like I said on your lunch break where you say, okay, I clock out, let me grab my sandwich.
Speaker BI'm walking, you know, out of the, out of the office because you don't want to do work in your office, probably, you know, eat your sandwich on the way out.
Speaker BAnd then as soon as you sit down on a park somewhere and on a bench or however it's going to look like for you, this is, I was actually outside, you know, underneath the tree.
Speaker BAnd so I made it so that it was a routine.
Speaker BEvery single hour that I got for lunch, I ran outside, started building my business.
Speaker BSo you need to become efficient as well as organized.
Speaker BWhatever you're doing, driving, you know, if you're driving to the gym, spend time building your business.
Speaker BIf you are outside mowing the lawn, spend time on your, like, listening to my podcast or listening to books or getting education and coaching, you don't need to.
Speaker BEvery waking moment that is spent doing something else, I would suggest develop yourself into the business.
Speaker BI literally stopped listening to the radio, like, music for like five years because there were so many podcasts, so many books, so many things I needed to learn.
Speaker BAnd so I took all of that time that would normally gone to just, you know, kind of vegging out and not doing anything that or not being productive.
Speaker BInstead of doing that, I made myself very productive.
Speaker BSo try to become efficient with your time.
Speaker BWhenever you have an extra waking moment that you're not devoting to something else, like your family, your job, or something else, try to capture that time, become efficient and use that to build your business.
Speaker BAlso, in scheduling and having time management, you need to put systems in place and organizations in place.
Speaker BNow we live in such a great time with so much technology that it is so much easier to invest in real estate.
Speaker BAnd also with scheduling in the time in your life.
Speaker BThere's so many ways to make your time used more efficiently.
Speaker BYou know, like Evernote is a great place.
Speaker BYou keep all your notes inside there.
Speaker BDropbox is another great thing, listening to podcasts, but I want you to look out for tools that you can use, and you're probably already using these, but see how you can use these for your business to make your time much more efficient.
Speaker BYou can schedule things better and you want to make sure that your time is utilized the best.
Speaker BNow this podcast, I'm not going to go.
Dustin HinerIt's way out of the scope of.
Speaker BThis podcast to teach you, you know, the systems to organize and, you know, schedule a time.
Speaker BI'm sure you can figure that out pretty easily.
Speaker BWhat I want you to do is now utilize those things so that you can get your business built, that you can continue to buy properties.
Speaker BYou can have other people work for you.
Speaker BThis goes in the next step.
Speaker BWhen scheduling your time and thinking about how much time is spent on your business, think about how you can have other people work for you, how you can pay other people to do the work that you can do, but you pay them everything from property managers like I don't manage my properties because my property managers do that.
Speaker BYou can have contractors, realtors, wholesalers, mortgage brokers, and this goes into the next step.
Speaker BAnd from scheduling your time and taking care of your time with investing while you have a full time job, what you want to do, a big huge suggestion is to build a team of others working for you.
Speaker BYou want to have other people working for you day in and day out, when you are sleeping, when you are working, when you're on vacation, when you're playing with your kids or going on a date.
Speaker BYou want to have other people like property managers, realtors, like I said, mortgage brokers, bankers, wholesalers, contractors, handymen, plumbers, all these sort of people.
Speaker BYour job is to build a team of people that are working for you.
Speaker BThe biggest thing that you can do in your business is hire others to do all the work for you.
Speaker BNow, I have a podcast episode that I want to give you.
Speaker BGo back and listen to my podcast episode number eight, where I talk about how you can build an automated business by having a team of people working around you.
Speaker BTo listen to an episode, go to masterpassiveincome.com.
Speaker Bzero Zero eight.
Speaker BThat's the 8th podcast episode.
Speaker BYou're going to learn how to build a team who you want on your team, who are the must have people that you need on your team, and then also the nice to have people, you know, if you build it even further than that.
Speaker BAnd so go back and listen to that episode or go to the podcast show notes and I walk you through everything there.
Speaker BSo what you want is to build a team of people around you.
Speaker BThe next item in how to invest in real estate with a full time job is money and finances.
Speaker BI know that's one of the biggest questions I get from everybody, from all my students, from all my podcast listeners, from everybody who reads my books.
Speaker BIt's basically how do you get finances?
Speaker BLike how do you take care of the money?
Speaker BObviously, you know, if I had a million dollars, I can go buy properties.
Speaker BWell, everybody could.
Speaker BYou know, I didn't start with a silver spoon in my mouth.
Speaker BI literally built my business from scratch.
Speaker BI saved money, bought a property, saved more money, bought another property, refinanced those properties to then buy more properties.
Speaker BSo that's how I did it.
Speaker BSo with money and finances, if I know that's most people have that issue.
Speaker BOne, the first step is increase the amount of income that you make.
Speaker BNow, if you have one job and you think, well, I'm not making much money here, I'm just over broke because my boss isn't, isn't giving me more money.
Speaker BWell, go and ask for a raise.
Speaker BIt doesn't hurt to ask for a raise.
Speaker BLiterally ask for a raise and say, you know, I think, boss, I'm doing a great job and these are the reasons why I'm benefiting you.
Speaker BAnd here, here's, here's a tip.
Speaker BThis is a tip outside of the scope of this podcast.
Speaker BBut when you're asking for a raise, don't tell your boss the reasons why you need a raise.
Speaker BDon't tell him that because that doesn't affect him.
Speaker BHe doesn't care.
Speaker BHe or she doesn't care, you know, might well tickle their ears, like, oh, he needs this, he needs that.
Speaker BDon't tell them that.
Speaker BTell them the reasons why they need to give you a raise.
Speaker BShow them how you benefit their company or whoever you're working for.
Speaker BShow them why it's necessary for them to give you the raise.
Speaker BSo here's what I wanna give you.
Speaker BThis is the tip.
Speaker BYou want to point out to your boss why they need to give you this raise.
Speaker BWhat benefit goes to them?
Speaker BAnd when you do that, it's gonna make it seem like in their mind, like, man, we have to, because this is gonna benefit our company so much.
Dustin HinerAnd I'm not sure.
Speaker BYou're gonna have to figure out whatever your job is and whatever you're doing now.
Speaker BYou're gonna have to figure that out, but you have to figure it out well.
Speaker BAnd when you express the reasons why you need a raise, it's because it's going to benefit that company.
Speaker BOkay?
Speaker BSo increase your income.
Speaker BIt could be asking for it.
Speaker BRaise.
Speaker BIt could be driving for Uber.
Speaker BLike, if I.
Speaker BIf all my properties went to crap and I literally could not make any money, I'm not getting a job.
Speaker BI'm going to drive for Uber or Lyft.
Speaker BI'm going to figure out, you know, Uber eats, or I'm going to drive for Amazon.
Speaker BI'm going to do.
Speaker BDriving is a lot of it, but I'm going to do other things.
Speaker BI'm going to start businesses.
Speaker BI'm going to.
Speaker BI'm going to go sell things door to door.
Speaker BLike, I am not going to work for somebody else because I had a taste of what it's like to be my own person.
Speaker BSo with increasing your income, go and get a side job.
Speaker BGo and get another.
Speaker BAnother, you know, if you're actually a delivery driver, you're driving for Uber or something like that.
Speaker BThat's more time you could be learning.
Speaker BThere's more time that you're making money and learning.
Speaker BSo increase your income.
Speaker BAnd increasing your income is so that you can save more money.
Speaker BNow, the next step after increasing your income is increase your savings amount.
Speaker BWhen you have money, it's so easy to buy properties.
Speaker BTrust me, it's so easy.
Speaker BIt's super hard when you have, you know, to get seller financing or find wholesalers.
Speaker BI mean, that's much, much harder to do or if, you know, tax liens and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker BBut if you have money to spend on the cash, it's so much easier and you get a big discount.
Speaker BSo you want to increase the amount of savings that you do every single month, put away $100, like, force yourself $100 even though you don't have it, force yourself to save $100 every single month.
Speaker BAnd then in six months, increase that to $125 or $150.
Speaker BThe more money you save every single month, the more properties you will be able to buy and the faster you will be able to buy it.
Speaker BHere's another thing with money and finances.
Speaker BCut expenses.
Speaker BNow, I'm not saying this is going to be forever, but you want to cut expenses so that you can save more money to buy more properties.
Speaker BNow, I cut so many things out of my expenses way back when I first started.
Speaker BNow I have them put it put back in, like, you know, buying coffee or going out to dinner almost every, every other night.
Speaker BLike, I cut those things out because I didn't have money, but now that I do have money, I put them back in.
Speaker BSo you want to cut expenses, and it could be you're driving, you know, maybe $600 a month more or payment on a car, not mortgage payment, but auto loan payment.
Speaker BYou know, give that car back or sell it.
Speaker BGet out of that $600 a month or even $400 a month.
Speaker BYou want to have a car that gets you from point a to point b and has as little money coming out of your pocket as possible.
Speaker BLike I've told you many times, I still drive my 2007 Honda Odyssey even though I have plenty of money.
Speaker BPraise the Lord.
Speaker BI have plenty of money that I could go and buy a car, but I don't because I don't need to.
Speaker BIt's not something.
Speaker BIt's like I cut it out of my system of, you know, having expensive things.
Speaker BAnd now that I have plenty of money, it's like, ah, I'm fine without it.
Speaker BBut who knows?
Speaker BMaybe in the next few months I'm gonna go buy my wife a car just because, you know, I love her.
Speaker BAnd it's about time.
Speaker BMaybe it's time to do that.
Speaker BBut you cut your expenses out now and then you could put them back in later.
Speaker BSo this is a huge tip.
Speaker BCut your expenses so you can save more money.
Speaker BNow, the next part is continue to save and continue to use that money and invest that money so that when you quit your job, you have plenty of that innate sense of saving money in your system.
Speaker BContinue to save until you actually quit your job.
Speaker BDon't go and overspend on, you know, something that's just going to take money out of your pocket.
Speaker BI specifically remember a time where we had an opportunity to go to Disneyland with, you know, some friends or family members.
Speaker BAnd we said, no, we're not going to because we're saving money.
Speaker BI thought, you know, that $3,000 we're going to be spending at Disneyland, that's a whole property that I could buy.
Speaker BI could use that money to buy a property.
Speaker BNow with money and financing, continue to save, but then also find other investors who may want to lend you money.
Speaker BIt could be your family members, it could be your dad, your mom or acquaintance.
Speaker BSo with you telling everybody that you're an investor, somehow that whole, it's really neat how people in networking, they start thinking, hey, I don't want to do it, but I have money that I can invest through you.
Speaker BWould you want to do that?
Speaker BWhen you get to the point where I am, I have people asking me all the time like, I have money, can you invest it for me?
Speaker BOr, you know, are you buying an apartment complex?
Speaker BCan I invest with you?
Speaker BI'm like, so anyways, I have a huge long list of all the people that I could reach out to when I buying a, you know, like a $10 million apartment complex and say, hey, we got to raise 2 million.
Speaker BYou know, how much money do you want to put in?
Speaker BDo you want to get a percent equity in the stake in the property?
Speaker BSo as you become an investor and you get more and more into it, more people want to give you money.
Speaker BSo be talking to other people about how they can invest with you.
Speaker BNow, another thing, when you're building your business, you're talking to mortgage brokers in money and financing.
Speaker BKeep talking to mortgage brokers, seeing what they need from you, like what your credit score needs to be, how much money you need to make, what they need from you in order to be able to give you a loan for a property.
Speaker BNow that moves on to networking, you need to network with other people.
Speaker BFind a real estate investment association group that meets together in your area.
Speaker BMore than likely they will.
Speaker BIt's Reia.
Speaker BLike if you just type in REIa in a search, Internet search in your area.
Speaker BLike if you're in Oklahoma, type or, you know, let's say Tulsa, type in REia, Tulsa, Oklahoma, and you'll probably find one in your area.
Speaker BThis helps you get around other investors that you're going to be able to, you know, rub elbows with and sharpen each other's ideas and maybe find deals there and find other investors to work with.
Speaker BNow with master passive income and the course that ultimate real estate investing course that I have, it comes with a real estate investing group that I have all my students a part of, and we're all working together, trying to help each other out.
Speaker BAnd I'm in there answering people's questions as well.
Speaker BAnd so we're working together to build businesses together.
Speaker BNow, I want to give you, after we've gone through just all that, I want to give you a step by step process that I would take and that I actually did take to buy my first property.
Speaker BNumber one, I needed to find an area to invest in.
Speaker BI needed to make sure I was investing in a place that actually had a good cash flow, a good cash return.
Speaker BAnd for me, I was in California when I started investing, and the first place I bought was in Ohio, and it was because they had good returns.
Speaker BI could buy a property for fairly inexpensive money or fairly cheap, and it gave me a lot of money.
Speaker BPassive income coming in.
Speaker BSo first one, find an area to invest.
Speaker BNumber two, once you find that area to invest in, you see that there are plenty of properties that you can buy, and you continue to build your business.
Speaker BYou want to build a team to work for you and work in your business.
Speaker BSo where you're going to go and start investing, make sure you find the property managers, the realtors, the wholesalers, the mortgage brokers, all that sort of stuff.
Speaker BYou want to build up your business in that particular area.
Speaker BSo that when you do buy a property, you find and you buy a property, then you have your team immediately jump on that property and start working for you.
Speaker BWhere they're fixing up the property, they're leasing it out, they're getting that tenant in there, they're collecting rents, and you have that business already running.
Speaker BSo I never buy a property until I have the business already running.
Speaker BNext thing, after you build that business, you know, first one, finding an area.
Speaker BNumber two, you're building the team around you.
Speaker BNext step.
Speaker BNumber three is to find a property really utilizing wholesalers, like I said, utilizing realtors, zillow.com, comma, craigslist.com, comma, all these different places to find a property, analyzing the numbers and making sure that you're gonna make passive income every single month.
Speaker BAnd once you do that, once after you have all that, everything in place, you buy the property because you have the mortgage broker, you know, you have your savings, and then you buy that property, then immediately have your property manager fix up the property, fix up the property, get it ready, start listing it.
Dustin HinerFor, say, for rent, and then you.
Speaker BAlso find a good tenant.
Speaker BThe next step would be really find a good tenant.
Speaker BI'm a strongly suggest you run a background check.
Speaker BNever, never, never.
Speaker BI'll say it again, never, never, never place a tenant unless you run a background check.
Speaker BNow if you use cozy like I do, it's a property management system and go there, it's completely free to you.
Speaker BIt's fantastic.
Speaker BMasterpassiveincome.com cozy c o z y.
Speaker BIf you go there, you will be able to utilize their service.
Speaker BPut your listing of your property for rent and anybody who wants to rent your property, you can say, you know, make sure they do a background check and the tenant pays for the background check.
Speaker BYou get the background check and you can see if this tenant's going to be a good tenant for your property.
Speaker BSo use cozy.
Speaker BFantastic.
Speaker BMasterpassiveincome.com cozy get yourself running good background checks so you can find a good tenant.
Speaker BHere's the last step.
Speaker BSuper simple to say, but harder to do.
Speaker BDo the process all over again.
Speaker BLike literally do it all over again.
Speaker BIt's a rinse and repeat type of business.
Speaker BI now, because I have my businesses set up in certain areas, it takes me literally one to 3 hours from finding a property to getting it rented and making money every single month because all I need to do is find a property.
Speaker BActually, people bring properties to me, so sometimes that doesn't even take any of my time.
Speaker BBut I run the numbers.
Speaker BI make sure I get the financing set up or my cash or however I'm going to do it and buy the property.
Speaker BSo it literally takes me at most 3 hours to find a new property that makes me money every single month.
Speaker BNow this has been hopefully a great way to show you that you can invest in real estate with a full time job, just like I did.
Speaker BAnd now it was nine years later I quit my job and that is it for today.
Speaker BGo ahead and get my free real estate investing course, Texas Word rental the 3377.
Speaker BRental the 33777.
Speaker BYou can also join my real estate wealth builders group coach coaching, get all my courses.
Speaker BAll right, guys, we'll see you in the next show.
Speaker BSee ya.