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Speaker BWelcome to around the House with Eric G. Your trusted source for all things home improvement.
Speaker BWhether you're tackling a DIY project, hiring it out, or just trying to keep your home running smoothly, you're in the right place.
Speaker BWith over 30 years of remodeling experience, certified kitchen designer Eric G. Takes you behind the scenes with expert advice, industry trends, and the latest innovations for your home.
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Speaker BIt's everything you need to know without the fluff.
Speaker BNow let's get this show started with our host, Eric G. And John Dudley.
Speaker AWelcome to the around the House show, your trusted source for home improvement information.
Speaker AThanks for joining us today.
Speaker AI'm Eric G. And we got Johnny Dudley here in the studio on the other side of the world.
Speaker AHey, Johnny, how you doing today, brother?
Speaker CDoing great, man.
Speaker CHow are you?
Speaker CReady to make a difference?
Speaker AOh, yeah.
Speaker AExcellent, man.
Speaker AI am stoked.
Speaker AI'm super stoked because today I want to say thank you to all our friends over at Connoisseur Media.
Speaker AWe have came back home and what I mean by that is around the House in about April of 1988 was founded on KXL when it was an AM station in Portland, Oregon.
Speaker AAnd today we are back on kxl.
Speaker AThanks, guys for tuning in, Portland.
Speaker AI appreciate you.
Speaker AWe are back and we were on that station till 2019 until they ended up getting rid of all their live and local stuff and we ended up going over to Salem Media.
Speaker AThey were wonderful people, don't get me wrong.
Speaker ABut with my buddy Mark going back over there, he's the guy that helped me create around the House Northwest TV show in Portland and he ended up over there and with Ross and Grant and all the people over there.
Speaker AThanks for having us back on.
Speaker AI'm excited you're going to hear a lot more from us.
Speaker ABut thanks for tuning in here, Portland, Oregon.
Speaker AWe appreciate you and all of you listening around the country, around the world.
Speaker AThanks for tuning into around the House.
Speaker AWe got a great show today.
Speaker CI feel like we need balloons and cake.
Speaker AAh, I'll get some cake because we can have our cake and eat it, too.
Speaker AI like.
Speaker AWell today I know it's a holiday season, but I thought, you know, we've done some holiday stuff.
Speaker AI thought let's talk about here in this first hour, our top 10 DIY projects that every homeowner should get, you know, under their belt.
Speaker AUnderstand that can save them serious money out there.
Speaker ABecause I tell you what, I have learned so many lessons watching people spend way too much money when it could have been a DIY Project.
Speaker CYep.
Speaker ALike, great example.
Speaker AAnd I'm going to throw my little brother under the bus.
Speaker AMy mom living in eastern Washington.
Speaker AWater heater let go, you know, filled up, water coming out underneath the garage door.
Speaker AYou know that garage water heater, it's 40 gallon gas.
Speaker AWater heater.
Speaker ABrother didn't want to take my advice.
Speaker AThat's what brothers do.
Speaker AHired a plumber to come out.
Speaker ASimple.
Speaker A40 gallon water heater.
Speaker AGuess how much it cost to replace that sucker, Johnny, for a plumber to come out on the same day.
Speaker CI'm going to say 600 in labor and a thousand for the machine.
Speaker ANope.
Speaker A3,500 bucks.
Speaker CGet out of here.
Speaker CWell, same day.
Speaker AYeah, same day.
Speaker CCome on.
Speaker ASomebody else paid two grand for it, which is a little bit better.
Speaker CWell, I could do 10 of those in a day.
Speaker CSo maybe we should get into a different business.
Speaker CLike they literally.
Speaker CIt takes an hour.
Speaker CCome on.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI mean, holy smokes.
Speaker AYou know, and really, even if there's natural gas in there, if you do it right and follow the directions, it's not that hard to do.
Speaker AYou can make sure that you do it correctly and get it done.
Speaker ABut these are all things that I think every homeowner should be able to do, and it's worthwhile to learn these skills.
Speaker CYeah, no, that's a super simple one.
Speaker CAnd people are right.
Speaker CI've had the homeowners that are like, oh, it's a water heater.
Speaker CI'm like, man, give me 300 bucks, I'll swap it out for you.
Speaker ARight, Right.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AI tell you what, depending on where you're located, it can be absolutely crazy.
Speaker AI remember 10 or 15 years ago, there was a city that required a building permit to swap out your water heater.
Speaker COh, come on.
Speaker AWell, here's where it got even crazier.
Speaker AA guy hired a plumber to come out and do it.
Speaker AHe was a city council person.
Speaker AAnd I know there's people in our.
Speaker ALydia, we're on in this station in this area, so people are going to start known who I'm talking about.
Speaker AThere was a police standoff with the city councilor that hired the plumber because the building department official showed up and went, ah, you don't have a permit for that water heater and wanted to come inside.
Speaker AAnd they literally had a police standoff over the permit of the water heater.
Speaker CSo, okay, well, that's a $3,000.
Speaker CThat's a $3,000 job then if you got to stand off at the police.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker CI can see that's justified.
Speaker AThat's justified now.
Speaker AYeah, but you know what I mean, that's the crazy part is you look at and go, holy smokes, that just got out of hand.
Speaker AAnd some cities, it's not a big deal.
Speaker AYou know, homeowners can generally always work on their own stuff, so that's pretty easy.
Speaker ABut if you got to get a permit for it, just go get it.
Speaker ABut, man, that bugs me when I got to get a permit for that.
Speaker AEven when you want a replacement, I.
Speaker CMean, you're connecting hoses.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CYou've been doing that since you were four.
Speaker CYou've been doing that since you were four on the water slide, like, come on.
Speaker CConnect the hose, turn it on, push the pilot light.
Speaker AGo, go.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYou know, and again, you know, it's funny.
Speaker ASo I replaced my gas water heater in my old house.
Speaker AI replaced it with one of the heat pump ones, and that saved me so much money.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AI mean, it saved me probably 250 to 300 bucks a year on heating water, which is a lot.
Speaker AThat starts to pay for the heat pump one.
Speaker AAnother one, though, that I think is super important.
Speaker AReplacing a toilet.
Speaker CPay someone.
Speaker AYou hate it, don't you?
Speaker CI always had laborers, so I didn't have to touch them.
Speaker CAnd I did pull that toilet.
Speaker CI'll put the new one down, but you pull the old one.
Speaker AYeah, pulling it's not so fun.
Speaker AIt's a little bit better when it's your own, you know, but still, you know, get some gloves, replace it.
Speaker ABut here's one thing.
Speaker AI mean, really, what are you talking about?
Speaker AYou're talking about maybe a utility knife to cut the caulking away from the floor.
Speaker AYou might be talking a wrench.
Speaker CWrench?
Speaker CYeah, yeah.
Speaker AWrench to get it.
Speaker AOr 7.
Speaker A16, depending on how small that is.
Speaker AYou've got to turn the water off, disconnect the water supply, grab your shop vac and suck the water out of it so you don't make a mess.
Speaker AOr just like you do, just waddle.
Speaker CIt across the board.
Speaker CBend your knees.
Speaker CI have screwed up my back pulling toilets so many times.
Speaker ALike, oh, man, it's so bad.
Speaker CThey're awkward to carry.
Speaker CCarry.
Speaker CLet's just say that they're awkward to carry.
Speaker CBut get dirty.
Speaker CBend your knees, lift that thing off the wax ring, Get a new wax ring.
Speaker CClean up the O ring.
Speaker CSlap a new one down right on top of the bolts.
Speaker CDone.
Speaker AGood to go.
Speaker ACaulk it in, call it a day.
Speaker CIf everything I just spit out way too fast.
Speaker CDoesn't make sense.
Speaker CYouTube it.
Speaker CYou can replace your own toilet.
Speaker AIt's not that hard.
Speaker ANow here's the thing too, man.
Speaker AAnd this is interesting.
Speaker AI saw a test where somebody was testing the home center brands.
Speaker AYou know, that you see when you walk into, like Home Depot, Lowe's, all those different things and oh, my gosh, dude, when you go into those and see how they be, all the toilets are the same.
Speaker ANo, they're not.
Speaker AIf you look at like the Glacier Bays and all those house brand ones.
Speaker AYeah, they're gonna work.
Speaker ACan they work?
Speaker AWell, no.
Speaker AYou know, those are the ones you need the plunger for.
Speaker AAnd there is a lot of science that shows you how well you know, the totos always flush the best.
Speaker AI think second place in that who's been catching up is Kohler.
Speaker AI think third is American Standard.
Speaker AAnd then it goes down from there.
Speaker ABut really, if you want to have something that you don't need a plunger for, just go for the Toto.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CThe other issue is those, those cheaper ones, they don't polish the inside, right.
Speaker CSo the porcelain.
Speaker CThere's no porcelain.
Speaker CThey don't even pol.
Speaker CPorcelain all the way down through the.
Speaker CYeah, through the entire toilet.
Speaker CSo you've got rough.
Speaker CYou know, ceramic in there that's just catching and catching your toilet paper and your.
Speaker AAnd they really get down to a small opening in the inside as well.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker CYeah, and it happens quick.
Speaker CIt happens in a couple of years, you're like, oh, but I saved money.
Speaker CYeah, but you're replacing it in a year or two.
Speaker CLike.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI mean, the cool thing is you can see sit there with the totos.
Speaker AI mean, what was it 10 years ago?
Speaker AThey had a bucket of golf balls like you'd get at the driving range, and they pour the toilet and flush it down.
Speaker AReally not doing that with a.
Speaker AWith a Glacier Bay or one of those other house brands.
Speaker AYou're just not.
Speaker CSo I bet you can with your garbage disposal, though.
Speaker AOh, yeah, well, my former garbage disposal.
Speaker AI knew the new owners can.
Speaker AThat's for sure.
Speaker ASo you could.
Speaker AYou could chew all those up.
Speaker AYou could chew all those up.
Speaker AHey, Johnny, we're running over here.
Speaker ALet's run out to break.
Speaker AWhen we come back, let's dive into some more of those top DIY projects that every homeowner should know.
Speaker AAnd if not, you should learn it.
Speaker AWe'll tell you how just as soon as around the House returns.
Speaker AWelcome back to the around the House show.
Speaker AHey, guys, if you want to find out more about the show, if you're just hearing us for the first Time, head over to aroundthehouse online dot com.
Speaker AWe'd love to hear from you, especially our new Portland listeners that are catching us today, the first week on kxl.
Speaker AThanks for tuning in.
Speaker AI'm Eric G. And I got John Dudley here and we were just talking as we were going out to break and I wanted to continue this conversation for a minute.
Speaker AWe were making fun of my ex mother in law jamming stuff down the garbage disposal.
Speaker AJohnny, you know the difference between in laws and outlaws, right?
Speaker CTheoretically, yes, but not the way you're going to tell me, I'm sure.
Speaker AYeah, outlaws are wanted.
Speaker CThere you go.
Speaker CI should have known that one.
Speaker AYou should have known that one.
Speaker ASee, you should have known that one.
Speaker CSo I may have known that one 20 years ago, Eric.
Speaker AYeah, it's been a bit for you.
Speaker ASo that's all good.
Speaker AThat's all good.
Speaker AHey, man, we've been talking about our top 10 DIY projects for every homeowner out there.
Speaker AThe next one I wanted to talk about is a good one.
Speaker ARepairing that leaky faucet.
Speaker AWhether you're tearing the whole thing out or just throwing in a repair kit, it's really not that hard.
Speaker AOr it can be, depending on how hard it is.
Speaker CNotice my long pause there.
Speaker CI'm like, yeah, okay.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AWorking on that stuff that's been in there plus 20 years is where it gets difficult.
Speaker AIf you've got that old 1960s shower valve and you want to replace the cartridge on it, you could be in a monumental tug of war.
Speaker CYeah, replace the faucet.
Speaker CI'm going to put this out there for the few people that still won't listen to me.
Speaker CWhen you're doing things like this, whether it's even including the toilet, the water heater.
Speaker CReplacing a faucet, do not over tighten plumbing.
Speaker CIt is not meant to be cranked down with a torque wrench.
Speaker CIt is meant to be hand tightened and then about a quarter to a half a turn and you're good.
Speaker CIf you over tighten it, you will screw up the seals and you will.
Speaker CYour new leaky faucet repair will leak.
Speaker CPlease do not overtight.
Speaker AMan, you are speaking the truth, brother.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd the bad part is if you got hard water, it's gonna put its own little loctite on it anyway.
Speaker COh, indeed it will.
Speaker AIt's gonna be worse.
Speaker AIt's not gonna be easy.
Speaker CIt's gonna be a sawzall sometimes.
Speaker AAnd I've used the sawzall.
Speaker AI have come.
Speaker AI've gone in there and cut the band on Or a nut off of something so I could peel it back and still try to save it.
Speaker ABut, yeah, sometimes you just got to get in there and cut it out and replace it.
Speaker AEspecially when you're dealing with shower valves and stuff like that.
Speaker ABut leaky faucets sometimes.
Speaker AHere's the cool thing is, if you've got like an American Standard or a Delta or Kohler.
Speaker AMoen, call their 1-800-number, their 1-88-number, call customer service.
Speaker AThey might just send you that pack for free.
Speaker AA lot of them have lifetime warranties.
Speaker AThey might just go, oh, you need this?
Speaker AOkay, cool.
Speaker AAnd they might just send you the parts for free, which isn't a bad deal.
Speaker CI know Moen does.
Speaker CThat's why we used to always use diverters and showers and things like that.
Speaker CAnd, yeah, they'll send you out a new packing kit, like, Yep, no problem, no problem.
Speaker ASo now it's just taking the time and researching it.
Speaker ABut a lot of them are pretty easy to do.
Speaker AYou replace that cartridge at some point, it's good.
Speaker AIf you.
Speaker AIf it's not in style and you want to update it and the finish is bad, don't worry about repairing it.
Speaker AJust toss it, get something new, you know, that's the big one.
Speaker AThe other thing is, and I want to bring this one up, too, here's a little hack for you guys out there that are out shopping.
Speaker AFor instance, if you go into your local Home center, and I mean the big ones like Lowe's, Home Depot, those kind of things, and you go into your local plumbing repair place, like a Ferguson or something like that, across the country, if you go into there and you look at a Home Depot faucet and let's say it's 199, and you pull that box open and look at the part number, you'll go to the plumbing store and go, why is this A little bit more.
Speaker AI did this about a decade ago.
Speaker AI bought two and pulled them apart.
Speaker ASame model number, different packaging.
Speaker AHome Depot one had all these plastic parts in it.
Speaker AThe one from the Home center was all brass because they were making ones in their, quote, retail packaging.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AAnd the same thing with other brands of toilets and stuff.
Speaker AWhen you go to the Home center, there might be.
Speaker AThey're B grade, there's flaws, like a little dimple on the side from the porcelain.
Speaker ABut the one that they're selling to their local licensed plumbers, to the plumbing repair place doesn't have that.
Speaker ASo there is a difference.
Speaker ASometimes depending on the brand, there is a difference.
Speaker CAnd there's a reason giant discount stores can give discounts.
Speaker CAnd it's not just because it's bulk.
Speaker CIt's because exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker CThe quality might be a little less on some.
Speaker CNot on everything.
Speaker CNot saying on everything.
Speaker CBut there are some notable differences that only guys like you and me would probably notice.
Speaker CBut good for the average DIY homeowner out there to know that, yeah, maybe you spend an extra $7, but I'll bet you even just that one brass washer instead of the plastic one might save you $200 next year.
Speaker AExactly.
Speaker AThat's a big one.
Speaker AThat's a big one.
Speaker AAnd so that's one of those things that you learn.
Speaker AIt's a good way to go.
Speaker AI tend to buy my stuff that I'm going to keep.
Speaker AGuess what?
Speaker AIt's going.
Speaker AI'm going down to the local plumbing store because just don't want to deal with it.
Speaker AAnd if you're in the trade, you get a bigger discount anyway.
Speaker ASo you're getting it about the same price as what the Home Depot product price would be anyway, and you're getting the real thing.
Speaker AMy other little warning on that is don't buy it from the online marketplaces out there.
Speaker ABecause I tell you what, we've talked about this in the show year after year, but literally, Johnny, I could go down to.
Speaker ALet's say I'm going to go down to Home Depot and I pick up that Kohler faucet off of that, I can jump online, ship that thing off to Canada, throw it a DHL package, send it over to China over there in three weeks to a month and a half later, plus tariffs, I could have all these Kohler faucets showing up that aren't made by Kohler.
Speaker ANow, customs might grab them, but if they don't, they're knockoffs.
Speaker AThen you sell them online.
Speaker AAnd when you go to buy repair parts, the repair parts don't fit.
Speaker ABecause guess what?
Speaker AIt's like the knockoff Coach purse you bought at the market.
Speaker AIt ain't real.
Speaker AIt just looks like it.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CAnd there's a ton of that.
Speaker AYeah, it's a ton of it out there.
Speaker AAnd not to say you can't buy online.
Speaker CThere's reputable, reputable marketplaces.
Speaker CBut, yeah, be smart about it.
Speaker CYeah, I don't know any of them because I generally don't buy online things.
Speaker CLike, I won't even bring up names, but you see some of them where you're like, dude, that cannot be $3.
Speaker CThis can't.
Speaker AYeah, Absolutely.
Speaker AThere's not.
Speaker AWhat's the deal?
Speaker AWhat's the deal?
Speaker CToo good to be true.
Speaker CIt is.
Speaker AIt always is.
Speaker AIt always is.
Speaker AThe next one up here, man, is a good one.
Speaker AI want to hit this before we go to break real quick.
Speaker APatching drywall holes, learning how to do that.
Speaker ALearn how to do a California patch.
Speaker AAnd I hate doing drywall, man.
Speaker AI hate it.
Speaker AI do stuff with the last of the house and man, there is nothing.
Speaker AI would rather change a toilet than do drywall.
Speaker CYeah, I've done this stuff too long.
Speaker CWhen pretty much everything you're bringing up is supposed to be simple, I'm like.
Speaker ANah, pay somebody again, it depends.
Speaker AIf you're just patching a hole in the wall and you don't have some crazy texture on it, it's one thing.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AThe art is in the mat is in the matching of the texture more so than it is the drywall.
Speaker AAnd by the way, almost everybody out there, when you're doing drywall, you put on 10 times too much mud and then you have to sand it back off again.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker ALittle is best.
Speaker CCareful with the red mud.
Speaker CYou'll be sanding a long time.
Speaker AOh my gosh.
Speaker ASome of that hot glue.
Speaker A15 minute mud.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd it's a 45 minute sand, so.
Speaker AYeah, better with that.
Speaker ABut oh man, it used to be like, okay, did I mix up plaster and mud?
Speaker CLike silver set, the blue package, blue bag, hot mud.
Speaker COh, did you put that stuff on like concrete?
Speaker CIt was like fix all.
Speaker CYou're like, oh my God, this doesn't sand.
Speaker CThen they finally came out with light hot mud.
Speaker AYeah, they have.
Speaker CBy the way, I say, I say pay somebody for all this stuff.
Speaker CI'm gonna do it myself.
Speaker AYou're not gonna pay anybody.
Speaker CI know, I'm just being lazy.
Speaker ATrue.
Speaker AIt's one of those things if you can do that many times to have somebody come out and repair, that's four or five hundred bucks for that hole in the wall.
Speaker CYeah, easy.
Speaker CYeah, you can go buy.
Speaker CDon't they have little kits now?
Speaker CGo to Home Depot.
Speaker AYou can buy it.
Speaker AYeah, you can buy the spray can with the.
Speaker CThey also have those stick on metal with the yellow tape around them and.
Speaker AExactly.
Speaker AHey, when we come back, I'll tell you the best way to do that without having to buy one of those.
Speaker AAnd I can save you some money while doing it if you just got a piece of drywall.
Speaker AWe'll do that just as soon as around the House returns.
Speaker AWelcome back to the around the House show.
Speaker AYour trusted source for home improvement information.
Speaker AThanks for joining us today.
Speaker AJohnny Dudley and I are sitting here talking about some of those top 10 DIY projects from, you know, that every homeowner should learn out there.
Speaker AAnd we were just talking about patch and drywall holes.
Speaker AAnd, you know, you can get those little.
Speaker ALike Johnny was talking about, man.
Speaker AYou could get those metal plates with the, you know, yellow or white fiberglass mesh on.
Speaker AYou can stick over the hole and patch it.
Speaker AWhat I like to do is do a California patch.
Speaker AYou ever do one of those?
Speaker CYeah, it's better.
Speaker CIt's better.
Speaker CThat metal plate always shows.
Speaker CI don't care how big you are, unless you fan it out four feet, either way, it's gonna show.
Speaker ASo everybody's asking what a California patch is.
Speaker ASo take.
Speaker ALet's say the hole is the size of a doorknob, right?
Speaker AYou're gonna make it.
Speaker AYou're gonna take a piece of drywall, and you're gonna cut it in a square that's a few inches wider than what that is.
Speaker AAnd then what I do is I go in there and square out the hole, basically for where that.
Speaker AThat hole was, you know, for the drywall in the wall itself.
Speaker ASo I'll take that round hole from the.
Speaker AFrom the.
Speaker AFrom the knob, square that out, and then I'm gonna make a corresponding piece on the new piece.
Speaker ASo I will actually draw out that same square on it.
Speaker AAnd then I'm gonna remove the drywall around the outside and just peel it off the face on it.
Speaker ASo then what I can do is take that square and slide it into the hole in the wall.
Speaker AWhoops.
Speaker AAnd then we can do that.
Speaker AAnd that'll work out really well.
Speaker AAnd when you do that, it's kind of trick.
Speaker AI like how we can just put some mud in that, and then all you have is that layer of tape, and you have drywall.
Speaker AIt fixes it really quickly.
Speaker CYeah, yeah, it's the best.
Speaker CIt's the best.
Speaker CI wouldn't say it's super fun.
Speaker CThat's a little over the top, you.
Speaker AKnow, but it is cool when you get the first coat of mud on it.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker COkay.
Speaker AThat looks good, right?
Speaker CIt is cool because you're like, oh, that actually works.
Speaker CWorks really good.
Speaker CAnd I look like a professional.
Speaker AYeah, yeah.
Speaker AIt looks like I know what I'm doing.
Speaker AAnd I've been doing drywall my entire life.
Speaker AI am no drywaller.
Speaker AYou know, my auto body skills come into.
Speaker AInto account.
Speaker ABut I watch professional drywallers out there, and anytime I'm doing drywall on tv.
Speaker AI'm like, oh, man.
Speaker AI know every drywaller is laughing at me, but I don't do it every day, you know?
Speaker CYeah, it's tough.
Speaker CI've done way too much, and I'm still not good at it.
Speaker CLike, yeah, it's one of those things.
Speaker CYou got to do it every day.
Speaker CLike, you just got.
Speaker AAbsolutely, absolutely.
Speaker CIf I do it, if I do a whole house, you know, not that I would now, but, you know, back in the day, like, okay, I'm just gonna.
Speaker CIt's a.
Speaker CIt's my rental property.
Speaker CIt's my owned house.
Speaker CI'm like, I don't got the budget for the drywall guy to come in here and, you know, take my deposit and disappear for a while.
Speaker CSo I'm just gonna do it.
Speaker CJust gonna do it.
Speaker CAnd by the time I'm done doing the entire house, I'm like, I'm pretty damn good drywall.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CSee.
Speaker CThen I never want to do it again, of course.
Speaker ANo, but, you know, great example, though, drywall.
Speaker AYou know, out at the.
Speaker AAt the beach house at Cannon beach, we'd gotten a price for drywall from our local.
Speaker ALocal home center that would deliver it, you know, and for an extra.
Speaker AAnd that was a whole house that we needed in drywall.
Speaker ASo it was, you know, 1500 square foot house and everything, but one room.
Speaker ASo it's probably, what, 1350 on the square footage, Got a price, drywall, mud, all that stuff.
Speaker AIt was only 1800 bucks more to have those guys come in, hang it, texture it, prime it.
Speaker CI cannot believe.
Speaker CAll the prices that have gone up so insanely.
Speaker CAnd drywallers are still working for a buck and a quarter.
Speaker CBuck 50 a square foot, right?
Speaker CDude, that was 15 years ago.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CThe same price, like, ow, buddy.
Speaker AAnd they showed up drywall.
Speaker CI feel like there should be something, a foundation for them to save those poor passes.
Speaker AIt's crazy, man.
Speaker AIt's crazy.
Speaker AAnd so, yeah, I mean, they're getting more money, but those guys out there, you know, and here's the thing, too.
Speaker AYou got to think about it.
Speaker AWhat's going on in the states right now, you know, with building being so far down, those guys are trying to stay busy too.
Speaker ASo, you know, it's.
Speaker AIt's a lot less house construction, a lot less stuff going on.
Speaker ASo I think they were trying to stay busy even a year and a half ago, but still seems they came in and did 5H drywall, where I was pricing half inch.
Speaker COof, man.
Speaker AAnd I was watching those guys throw up four by 12, five, eight on that.
Speaker ALike it was, you know, three, eight wallboard.
Speaker AAnd I was just like, no, thanks.
Speaker COh, yeah, no, man.
Speaker CNo, no, no, no good.
Speaker ABut anyway.
Speaker AHey, man, the next one on the list here, installing a ceiling fan.
Speaker AAnd there's, I think, one most important piece of this.
Speaker AAnd this is where it can go really sideways.
Speaker CTwo people.
Speaker AYou need to have a fan.
Speaker AYou need to have a box up in the ceiling that can support a ceiling fan.
Speaker CThat is super important.
Speaker AThis is where DIY projects go wrong, is somebody put a light fixture up there.
Speaker AIt's an older house, and they put a remodel box up in there.
Speaker AAnd somebody goes up and puts up the big hunter 52 inch fan that's hanging off the edge of the drywall and two little clips and it's over the bed.
Speaker AAnd next thing you know, that thing's laying on the bed.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AAnd you don't know what happened.
Speaker CSo note to self, if you plan on doing a ceiling fan, plan on doing the drywall repair that's going to be required after you cut that section of drywall out so that you can add a block to go across to support a new electrical box for your new ceiling fan.
Speaker AHere's my trick.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker COh, tricks.
Speaker AI got a trick for you.
Speaker AThey make those boxes that you can put up there that have the metal arms that come out.
Speaker CYeah, like a can light.
Speaker AYeah, like a can light.
Speaker ASo if you get up in there, and you might not if you cut out the box that's in there.
Speaker AFirst off, turn the power off, guys.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AThe breaker, confirm that's off.
Speaker AGet up there.
Speaker AIf you can remove the box that's up there, that's just a regular little box, then you can go up and put that in there.
Speaker AYou can actually do that without destroying the drywall.
Speaker AYou know, it can be done.
Speaker AYou know it can be done, but that'll get you in there.
Speaker AAnd if you have to do a little bit of drywall work, who cares?
Speaker AOr if it's an attic space above, just go up there and do it.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ABut you can do that without getting up in the attic if you do it right with the right kit.
Speaker AJohnny, there's one that I found that has a turnbuckle in the middle.
Speaker ASo you can get it out there and then you can tension it and it pushes the rods out that have spikes on it that'll go into the studs on either side.
Speaker CThat makes sense.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CNice.
Speaker ASo a tension fits in there.
Speaker CBecause, for example, with the can lights, you just have to.
Speaker CYou Know, hit the teeth in with a hammer or and put two screws in it and it'd still bend and.
Speaker AOh yeah, still sheet metal everywhere.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ACut your hand doing it, you know.
Speaker CI don't miss the frustration.
Speaker CNo.
Speaker ABut anyway, that works well.
Speaker ASo really all you need is a mile of patience.
Speaker AScrewdriver, wire stripper, ladder, your fan and probably the right box to put up there.
Speaker AAnd then you'll be good to go.
Speaker ABut read the directions.
Speaker AIt will be intimidating.
Speaker AIf you've got one of those multi speeds with the remote control and all that other stuff.
Speaker AJust make sure you follow the directions on that.
Speaker CCouple extra wires.
Speaker AYeah, so that's a good one.
Speaker AAnd the same goes for a light fixture too, guys.
Speaker AWhen you're out there looking at it, light fixtures, really easy, same thing.
Speaker AJust make sure you got all the right parts for it.
Speaker AMake sure that you're going to cover up, you know, what you got.
Speaker AAnd like a ceiling fan.
Speaker AI don't recommend them for anything under an eight foot ceiling.
Speaker AUnless you like reaching up and stretching and knocking your fingers off or getting dressed in the morning in the bedroom.
Speaker ABe careful with low ceiling heights.
Speaker AI speak of experience.
Speaker CYeah, I've done it a hundred times.
Speaker CYep.
Speaker AI actually saw a guy.
Speaker AOh my gosh, I felt so bad for him.
Speaker AHe was.
Speaker AThis was my early days working in a hardware store and the guy was up in the electrical part department.
Speaker AWorking on a fan and it was where all the different fans around.
Speaker AAnd this, this is how old this is.
Speaker AThis is Ernst Hardware.
Speaker COh, yeah.
Speaker AOkay, I'm gonna give you old school.
Speaker AAnd the guy had turned the breaker off, did everything right.
Speaker ATurned the breaker off, turned the light on.
Speaker ADidn't realize that the one next to him he was standing away from had reset it.
Speaker AHe'd turned it off.
Speaker AAnd we took the breaker on it, turned it back on again.
Speaker ANo, that thing came around and hit him right over the eye.
Speaker COh.
Speaker AAnd just split him open.
Speaker AKnocked him backwards off the ladder because he was about 9, 10ft in the air and he should just dunk.
Speaker AAnd then I hear him hit the ground.
Speaker AI'm like, oh, dude.
Speaker CWell, you just got three, three months off.
Speaker AYeah, he just got the time off.
Speaker AI was like, dude, ouch.
Speaker AJust got clocked by that thing.
Speaker CSo yeah, I've taken him in the head, taking them in the hands.
Speaker AI've had a hand shot a couple, couple times, so.
Speaker AA couple times.
Speaker AWell, next up here, before we go out here, we're going to have to go out to break here, actually.
Speaker ALet's do that.
Speaker ALet's go out to break.
Speaker AWhen we come back, I've got a couple more here that are really good, that aren't that hard but can actually change the look of the room.
Speaker AWe'll do that just as soon as around the house returns.
Speaker AWelcome back to the around the house show.
Speaker AYour trusted source for home improvement advice and information.
Speaker AThanks for joining us today.
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Speaker AI've got some great videos coming up, Johnny, what I'm going to be doing here for the end of the year, I'm going to be putting up some of our favorite interviews that I've done and I'm going to remix some of these video formats so people can see them out there.
Speaker ASome of them we've never actually put out in full video form.
Speaker AI've got a few I'm gonna put up here on the YouTube that people haven't seen in the way that we've seen them.
Speaker ABecause I just never at the time, I think it was because I was doing the TV show.
Speaker AI caught some that we never put out on video.
Speaker ASo it's, hey, let's have some fun and throw up some best ofs.
Speaker AWon't be replacing this show here, but it'll just be some new stuff that you haven't seen before on YouTube.
Speaker CThe people like seeing people.
Speaker AYeah, yeah, we've got some good ones.
Speaker AAll right, next up on our list here, brother, painting interior walls.
Speaker APretty simple.
Speaker AIf you learn some things, you get.
Speaker AThis is what I call basic diy.
Speaker AIt can go out of hand.
Speaker AGet way out of hand, though, if you don't prep it or if you're in that staircase.
Speaker AI'm gonna paint my hallway.
Speaker AAnd they're like, oh, I gotta get up there above the second story stairs in the hallway.
Speaker AYou know what I mean?
Speaker ASome of that stuff gets a little sketch.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CI will tell you that painting is still my favorite thing in construction.
Speaker CI love to paint.
Speaker ANice.
Speaker CAnd I will tell you that it is one of the most underrated, oversimplified trades there is.
Speaker CEverybody thinks they can paint and nobody knows how to paint.
Speaker CAnd I don't say that to be a jerk.
Speaker AYep.
Speaker CBut seriously, like what?
Speaker CYou said one thing.
Speaker CPrep is huge.
Speaker CRight?
Speaker CPrep is good.
Speaker AAll about prep.
Speaker CUse some tape.
Speaker CUse a drop cloth.
Speaker CBuy a good roller.
Speaker CDon't buy the cheap one.
Speaker CIt's not worth it.
Speaker CIt Will look, you'll have to put 17 coats on it.
Speaker CKeep your roller strokes up and down.
Speaker CKeep them even.
Speaker CDon't start painting figure eights in the wall.
Speaker CThey will show just.
Speaker CThere's.
Speaker CIt is an acquired taste and I appreciate it because I love doing it and I love doing really good paint jobs.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CBut yes, of course anybody can walk in and paint a room blue.
Speaker CBut for me, I'm like, no, no, no.
Speaker ADo it like this.
Speaker CLike, I don't know.
Speaker CI don't know why it's a thing for me.
Speaker CI love to paint, man.
Speaker AOh, yeah.
Speaker AAnd the most expensive mistake you can make is buying cheap paint.
Speaker CYeah, I was just gonna say don't buy cheap paint.
Speaker CDon't buy cheap rollers.
Speaker CDon't.
Speaker CIt just doesn't work, dude.
Speaker AIt's so cr.
Speaker AAnd I've done this test before.
Speaker AYou go buy the $30 a gallon paint, or you can buy the $60 a gallon paint.
Speaker AI can pretty much guarantee you're gonna buy twice as much of the 30 gallon paint to cover that area as you will the 60.
Speaker ABecause the 60, you'll probably get a coat and a half and it's gonna be looking gold.
Speaker AYou'll have three or four coats of the other cheap stuff.
Speaker AYou've now worked twice as hard, you spent twice the money to do it.
Speaker AAnd in five years, when that thing's not scrubbable or the colors faded or.
Speaker CIt just looks like garbage, it's a different color.
Speaker AOh, my gosh.
Speaker CThere is a caveat.
Speaker CThere is a caveat.
Speaker CBuy 5 gallons of the cheapest paint you can find at Home Depot and Branchy.
Speaker CIf you're blowing out your rental units.
Speaker ASure.
Speaker CBecause they're just going to destroy them anyway in six months.
Speaker CSo go in there, blast everything white with the cheapest paint you can find as fast as you can.
Speaker CSo you can use the least amount of paint to just cover the dirt because it's gonna get wrecked again.
Speaker AYou're that landlord, aren't you, Johnny?
Speaker CLook, man, after people cost me tens of thousands of dollars destroying my properties, I learned how to take some shortcuts.
Speaker CYes.
Speaker CNot because I didn't want to provide a decent place to live and be a fair person, but because it behooved me to do it that way.
Speaker CLike, I just.
Speaker CI can't go in there and put Sherwin Williams at 60 bucks a gallon and paint it all pretty like I'm doing a kitchen in Mercer island when I know that within two months, the three kids, they're going to move in with Are going to crayon all over the walls.
Speaker CAnd I'm like, no, no, no.
Speaker CBucket of kills and a bucket of the cheapest paint loses.
Speaker AGod.
Speaker AThere you go.
Speaker AThere you go.
Speaker CPray and pray, baby.
Speaker ASpray and pray and pray.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AThe nice thing is too, though, is I always do on the ceilings when it's going to be a matte white, I don't care.
Speaker AThat can be a cheap paint.
Speaker AIt's already primed.
Speaker AIt's not that big a deal.
Speaker AYou don't want it to have any gloss to it, that kind of thing.
Speaker AIf you're doing white ceilings and colored walls or whatever, that's one thing.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CBut if you're talking about a dining room and you go in, especially if you're going like reds or burgundy's, gosh.
Speaker AThe bolder the color, the better paint you need to buy.
Speaker CEven with the best paint, I put five or six coats of burgundy on one of my dining rooms.
Speaker AOh.
Speaker CThe deeper the color, the worse it is.
Speaker AYeah, it's bad.
Speaker AIt's bad.
Speaker AAnd that's.
Speaker AThat's the thing.
Speaker ANext one up here, brother, is I've got.
Speaker AIs regrouting tile, which is no fun.
Speaker CI like.
Speaker ANo fun at all.
Speaker CI like it.
Speaker AHere's the.
Speaker AHere's what I do.
Speaker AThis is if you're going to regrout tile, you got to remove the grout out.
Speaker AI don't use the little grout removal tool.
Speaker AThis is where you get the grout removal tool that goes on to your multi tool and you hook it up to a vac and then you can run it right up and down there.
Speaker AYou can get that knocked out really quickly.
Speaker AAnd then when it comes to grout, when you get it all cleaned up ready to go, use a good one.
Speaker AAnd I don't go to the tile store.
Speaker AStay away from your home improvement stores.
Speaker AGo to your tile store, get the ardex, get something like that.
Speaker AThat can sit there is going to be very color consistent and it's going to be automatically sealed so you don't have to worry about sealing it ever again.
Speaker ASo you'll never get it dirty.
Speaker AYou'll be able to wipe it down and it's going to look like a million bucks.
Speaker ASo that's how you save yourself some money and do it that way.
Speaker AGet some good grout and then it's going to be good.
Speaker AAnd the problem with grout is if you buy the powder, just remember you got to.
Speaker AYou're baking.
Speaker AThat amount of water is going to dictate the color.
Speaker AIf you put too Much water in a black grout that's going to look gray.
Speaker ASo measure out what you're doing.
Speaker AMake sure you know what you're doing.
Speaker CYou don't like grout?
Speaker CI don't know.
Speaker CFor me, it's.
Speaker CIt's like painting.
Speaker AI don't like grinding it out.
Speaker AThat's always the nuts.
Speaker CAnd no, yeah, no, that part sucks.
Speaker CBut I like spreading grout.
Speaker CIt's like meditation.
Speaker CThat's why I like painting.
Speaker CLike, you get in that flow, you get in that zone.
Speaker CYeah, I dig it.
Speaker AWhat I like about the Ardex stuff is I've done their black a couple times and we did a video on doesn't because the color is in the stuff itself.
Speaker AWhen you're doing a black grout, you don't get black hands.
Speaker AYou don't have the dye in your hands.
Speaker AIt's just.
Speaker CYeah, yeah.
Speaker ASo it's way easier cleanup than if you go to the home improvement store and you get the powder, you mix it up there and it's.
Speaker AOh, my gosh.
Speaker AIt looks like playing in the fireplace.
Speaker CYeah, it's a mess.
Speaker AIt's a hot mess.
Speaker AAnd so way easier with that.
Speaker AAnd then when you're doing that, make sure if you change planes.
Speaker ASo like with the countertop, it's a backsplash.
Speaker AIt hits the countertop.
Speaker AThat's silicone.
Speaker AIf you're going around a corner, anytime you change direction, that is not a grouted corner.
Speaker AThat is a caulked corner with silicone.
Speaker AAnd make sure you do it right.
Speaker CYeah, good call.
Speaker CThat's important.
Speaker AThat's a big one.
Speaker ALast one.
Speaker CYou'll be chasing that crack forever.
Speaker AOh, my gosh.
Speaker AYou'll be doing it again.
Speaker ADoing again, Doing again.
Speaker ALast one on the list, your favorite.
Speaker AAnd my favorite.
Speaker AReplacing that garbage disposal.
Speaker CHey, your mother in law.
Speaker AI had to bring it back home.
Speaker AAnd if you've got a rental, or if you've got a rental and it's got a septic tank, remove that.
Speaker CYep, yep.
Speaker AJust.
Speaker AYou don't want to mess with it, so.
Speaker AGood call that one.
Speaker AJust.
Speaker AOh, my gosh.
Speaker AJust.
Speaker AOh.
Speaker CWe just say garbage disposal and you get rattled.
Speaker AI do get rattled, man.
Speaker AIt's just.
Speaker AIt's a draw.
Speaker AIt just drives me crazy.
Speaker AIt's just.
Speaker COh, do we have a Patreon?
Speaker CEric's gonna need some garbage disposal therapy.
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker AIt's just one of those things that I've just.
Speaker AWhen you've dealt with it long enough, you just go, oh, and by the way, don't Buy a cheap one.
Speaker ADon't buy that badger five quarter horse thing or whatever.
Speaker AGet like a one horse.
Speaker ASpend the money.
Speaker AIf you're gonna have one, just get the good one.
Speaker AIt's quieter.
Speaker AIt's not gonna plug up as easy.
Speaker AAnd then just use common sense with it.
Speaker CCommon sense.
Speaker CThere's a wide array of interpretations there.
Speaker AWe could go on to a rant with that.
Speaker ASo here's.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ANow here's the thing I actually did.
Speaker ASo here's the thing I did and this was really cool.
Speaker AI actually changed.
Speaker AI didn't do a insinkerator on my house.
Speaker AHere's the secret.
Speaker ABefore we go out to break, check out mountain plumbing.
Speaker AThese guys make the.
Speaker AThese are like chipper shredders that go in the back of a tree trimming truck power.
Speaker AThese things are awesome.
Speaker AAnd they're quiet.
Speaker AYou sink for your sink.
Speaker AThis thing.
Speaker AMountain plumbing products, I gotta say, they are mother in law improved.
Speaker AThey are mother in law approved.
Speaker AThey will deliver when you need them to deliver.
Speaker AIt's pretty amazing.
Speaker CI'm gonna have to deliberate on how I feel about that.
Speaker CHow I feel about that.
Speaker CBecause not sure I want something that damn powerful sitting in my sink.
Speaker ABe careful with things too.
Speaker AYou could put too big of one if you've got one of those like porcelain English apron.
Speaker ASome of these will break them when you turn them on.
Speaker AFrom the start of the motor, they.
Speaker CTold me I can shove a 2x4 in it.
Speaker CI imagine it's got some torque.
Speaker AIt literally the torque of it's starting will actually blow out the bottom like you dropped a china plate on the concrete floor in the garage.
Speaker CJust start a compost pile, people.
Speaker AThere we go.
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