1 00:00:00,069 --> 00:00:03,650 Property's falling fast. So why in the world would I be trying to educate 2 00:00:03,690 --> 00:00:07,032 people to get into a bubble? It doesn't make sense. I much prefer to educate people 3 00:00:07,072 --> 00:00:10,193 to get something they can bootstrap when they're younger and build freedom. Because at the end 4 00:00:10,213 --> 00:00:13,855 of the day, wealth's about freedom of your time, especially the younger generation. 5 00:00:13,875 --> 00:00:17,296 You know how many kids aren't going to be able to buy a house because of the greed in this country 6 00:00:17,336 --> 00:00:20,577 with property? It's disgusting. Politicians should be limited to one 7 00:00:20,617 --> 00:00:23,719 house because if they're not, they've got six. They're going to put policy in place to pump up 8 00:00:23,759 --> 00:00:27,180 the price because they're greedy pieces of shit. People that own lots of property, they 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,401 just seem to be under absolute financial stress all the time. and they seem 10 00:00:30,421 --> 00:00:34,245 to have no freedom. And so for me, it was kind of compromising my own personal desires 11 00:00:34,285 --> 00:00:38,068 to have a freedom driven life. But I just never gravitated towards 12 00:00:38,128 --> 00:00:41,730 property because of the success. If you're stuck in old money habits, overwhelmed 13 00:00:41,771 --> 00:00:45,193 by investing or unsure where to start, this is for you. I'll 14 00:00:45,213 --> 00:00:48,536 give you the mindset and strategies to take control, grow 15 00:00:48,556 --> 00:00:51,698 your wealth and achieve financial freedom. It's time to make 16 00:00:51,718 --> 00:00:54,881 your money work for you. Why I don't own 17 00:00:54,941 --> 00:00:58,465 property as a millionaire. What a hot topic 18 00:00:58,585 --> 00:01:02,068 this will be. The fighting in the comments 19 00:01:02,108 --> 00:01:06,032 should be extreme. Why I don't own property as a millionaire. I 20 00:01:06,052 --> 00:01:09,335 wanted to do this episode because a minute, there's a couple of ads floating around we've done 21 00:01:10,276 --> 00:01:13,659 talking about our book here, Money Buys Happiness. In the book, I talk about 22 00:01:13,799 --> 00:01:18,224 other wealth building strategies besides property. A 23 00:01:18,264 --> 00:01:21,826 lot of people grab the book and want to look at other avenues besides 24 00:01:21,886 --> 00:01:25,447 owning a house. The reason why I've kind of created this anti-property 25 00:01:25,507 --> 00:01:28,789 rebellion is because I actually didn't build my wealth 26 00:01:28,809 --> 00:01:32,251 through property. It's really interesting. I'll explain 27 00:01:32,271 --> 00:01:35,852 just a little bit of my background so you understand where I'm coming from here. You got to understand, I'm 28 00:01:35,872 --> 00:01:39,074 from the Gold Coast which is like the epicenter of property in the world. My 29 00:01:39,134 --> 00:01:42,875 dad has had a property business for 35 years, marketing 30 00:01:42,915 --> 00:01:46,178 property. So there's people that buy property and build wealth 31 00:01:46,218 --> 00:01:50,121 and there's people that have businesses in property. I'm a business guy, I'm 32 00:01:50,161 --> 00:01:53,644 not a buy property, build wealth guy, just so you know. But my background 33 00:01:53,725 --> 00:01:57,748 is, listen to this, lawyer, qualified lawyer, specializing 34 00:01:57,788 --> 00:02:00,971 in property law, got my full 35 00:02:01,011 --> 00:02:04,434 real estate license that I still have that's actively still fully licensed agent, 36 00:02:04,874 --> 00:02:08,438 a full license, and have had that since I was 20. So 37 00:02:08,458 --> 00:02:15,690 what's that? I've had that for 11 years. 21 years 38 00:02:15,730 --> 00:02:19,071 I've had that and I was in commercial sales and leasing for Ray White. 39 00:02:19,531 --> 00:02:22,811 I then went into property law, then I went into real estate development in 40 00:02:22,831 --> 00:02:26,692 the Middle East. So my whole background up to the age of about 28 and 41 00:02:26,712 --> 00:02:30,473 then I went into running a property business which is marketing properties 42 00:02:31,213 --> 00:02:34,534 with my dad and kind of rebuilt this family business. So 43 00:02:34,774 --> 00:02:39,215 all the way until the age of say 31, my whole background is property. Just 44 00:02:39,255 --> 00:02:42,416 so you know, it's not like I don't know 45 00:02:42,436 --> 00:02:46,218 what I'm talking about when it comes to property. It's just that I 46 00:02:46,318 --> 00:02:50,139 personally made a choice to invest in liquid assets and 47 00:02:50,379 --> 00:02:53,720 small businesses before owning property. 48 00:02:56,109 --> 00:02:59,291 I looked at all the people that own lots of property and they just seem to be 49 00:02:59,451 --> 00:03:02,552 under absolute financial stress all the time and they seem to 50 00:03:02,592 --> 00:03:06,014 have no freedom. For me, it was kind of compromising my own personal 51 00:03:06,054 --> 00:03:09,216 desires to have a freedom-driven life. When 52 00:03:09,236 --> 00:03:13,278 I was the age of 30, I started marketing supplements online. And 53 00:03:13,358 --> 00:03:17,043 that's what allowed us to scale a business to step out of our job. So it wasn't property 54 00:03:17,063 --> 00:03:20,207 that did it. In fact, even if I go back to when I was 55 00:03:20,387 --> 00:03:23,612 working in the property industry, I was actually taking the 56 00:03:23,652 --> 00:03:27,757 money that I was making from a wage, doing certain things, and I was buying shares. And 57 00:03:27,777 --> 00:03:31,121 so I was taking the money I was making. I was not buying property, I was buying shares. I 58 00:03:31,141 --> 00:03:34,685 was offered properties to buy. I could get pretty good deals. I was 59 00:03:34,705 --> 00:03:38,629 getting put and call option deals, but I just never gravitated 60 00:03:38,649 --> 00:03:42,193 towards property because it just never felt like a freedom asset to me. It 61 00:03:42,273 --> 00:03:45,416 felt like it was taking money from me, not giving me money. So I thought, what if 62 00:03:45,456 --> 00:03:48,679 I get into shares? One, they're liquid. Two, they produce income. And in Australia, they 63 00:03:48,699 --> 00:03:51,882 can produce, depending on what you buy and when you buy it. your 64 00:03:51,922 --> 00:03:55,343 tax rate, they can produce tax-free income. I actually started to 65 00:03:55,863 --> 00:03:59,164 buy shares from the very outset, probably 66 00:03:59,524 --> 00:04:02,865 15 years ago. The reason I wanted that is because I wanted to build up a portfolio that 67 00:04:02,905 --> 00:04:06,486 produced passive income. I started in online marketing using 68 00:04:06,526 --> 00:04:09,867 the power of social media back in 2014 because 69 00:04:09,887 --> 00:04:14,288 I wanted to develop a side hustle outside my job to fund the portfolio. I 70 00:04:14,388 --> 00:04:17,730 also wanted to get out of my job and be free. Property didn't do 71 00:04:17,770 --> 00:04:21,191 that because I had to get tons of leverage. Property 72 00:04:21,211 --> 00:04:24,393 was going to force me to get a big mortgage, force me to be at the 73 00:04:24,433 --> 00:04:27,554 mercy of the banks, and it wasn't going to produce any income for me for 74 00:04:27,574 --> 00:04:30,876 a long period of time because all of it for 20 or 30 years is used to pay off the debt. I 75 00:04:30,916 --> 00:04:34,538 wanted to have free cash flow earlier. I just decided against 76 00:04:34,638 --> 00:04:38,359 property from the very outset. I had every chance to be in it. My dad says 77 00:04:38,439 --> 00:04:41,721 it's a miracle I've never owned any. And I think it is too, because I've said 78 00:04:41,881 --> 00:04:46,244 no to that whole, like, I'm not one to just buy into a doctrine and 79 00:04:46,284 --> 00:04:50,186 go along with the crowd. So what's interesting, and the reason I'm telling you this is because I 80 00:04:50,226 --> 00:04:53,628 have a free life. I just literally, I'm not joking, tomorrow I'm going to Thailand for 81 00:04:53,648 --> 00:04:56,969 a month. And the only reason we're coming back is because we have a small puppy here. 82 00:04:57,590 --> 00:05:00,692 But I don't have to be here. And so 83 00:05:00,712 --> 00:05:04,053 I look at all my friends that went into the property game, they have to be everywhere. They 84 00:05:04,093 --> 00:05:07,279 cannot leave. I decided to take 85 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,584 my capital and put it into small businesses that will leverage the 86 00:05:10,604 --> 00:05:14,028 power of the internet to build freedom and put into shares that produce passive 87 00:05:14,088 --> 00:05:17,553 income straight away. I built that to live this life. 88 00:05:19,397 --> 00:05:22,980 It was an actual decision. As 89 00:05:24,221 --> 00:05:27,464 you can imagine, I was almost seduced into property many 90 00:05:27,504 --> 00:05:30,867 times. In fact, I had an expression of interest on a 91 00:05:31,527 --> 00:05:35,130 real estate transaction only about two and a half years ago. I was just 92 00:05:35,310 --> 00:05:38,773 seduced by a couple of – it was like a family thing. I was like, yes, 93 00:05:38,813 --> 00:05:42,055 sounds good. It was an emotional thing that almost got me. I was like, what the hell 94 00:05:42,495 --> 00:05:45,656 are you doing? And I stopped and then I moved the money back out and bought a 95 00:05:45,696 --> 00:05:49,157 laundromat. Check this out. The amount of money I put into the laundromat deal 96 00:05:49,817 --> 00:05:53,278 was like one, I guess you could say it was the same amount 97 00:05:53,298 --> 00:05:56,679 as the deposit for the property. However, the property would have produced no income, 98 00:05:56,739 --> 00:06:00,000 it would have taken income from me, it would have been negatively geared and 99 00:06:00,020 --> 00:06:03,820 it would have produced a 3% yield. The laundromat produces a 40% yield 100 00:06:04,661 --> 00:06:07,849 and it's paid off in three years. It's just so many 101 00:06:07,889 --> 00:06:11,830 better deals out there than an apartment for two million. And 102 00:06:11,870 --> 00:06:15,291 again, I'm not completely against property. I just don't like 103 00:06:15,351 --> 00:06:18,552 it and I hate to see it when people buy property because one, 104 00:06:18,592 --> 00:06:22,213 they don't understand anything else. Two, they buy into a really inflated market 105 00:06:22,533 --> 00:06:26,134 and it completely destroys them financially in the sense of they've got to 106 00:06:26,174 --> 00:06:29,696 take three jobs just to pay the mortgage. And they lose all their freedom. They 107 00:06:29,716 --> 00:06:33,058 lose their relationships. It just completely destroys the financial dynamics 108 00:06:33,098 --> 00:06:36,441 at home because you're under stress from your mortgage. And I just don't want to see it. So I'm like, 109 00:06:36,481 --> 00:06:39,663 hey, there's other ways besides property to be building wealth, just so 110 00:06:39,683 --> 00:06:42,765 you know. And I've done that. I'm proof that you can do it. 111 00:06:43,906 --> 00:06:47,590 And so, a lot of my friends who are successful too, they got successful building businesses, 112 00:06:48,130 --> 00:06:51,814 not becoming property moguls. Yes, there are people that have done it, I get it. But 113 00:06:52,275 --> 00:06:55,559 for me, it was just about freedom early. And I don't know anyone that's 114 00:06:55,579 --> 00:06:58,822 bought a ton of property that's completely free because all the income from the property 115 00:06:58,862 --> 00:07:02,025 is paying them off over time. Again, they're not coming to Thailand for 116 00:07:02,045 --> 00:07:05,247 a month with me tomorrow. They're stuck in their jobs. Just quickly, if you're 117 00:07:05,267 --> 00:07:08,970 ready to take control of your finances but feel stuck on where to start, I 118 00:07:08,990 --> 00:07:12,612 have a solution. My book, Money Buys Happiness, simplifies 119 00:07:12,652 --> 00:07:16,575 investing and wealth building with practical steps to help you achieve financial 120 00:07:16,655 --> 00:07:19,837 peace. Get your copy via the link in the show notes and let's get your 121 00:07:19,897 --> 00:07:23,259 money working for you. Now back to the episode. And I just think 122 00:07:23,339 --> 00:07:26,541 about the capital that I had that I could have put as a deposit for 123 00:07:26,561 --> 00:07:30,864 a house into our home. We live in a nice place on the water. We've 124 00:07:30,884 --> 00:07:34,307 been renting there for 11 years, and I think about the amount 125 00:07:34,327 --> 00:07:37,349 of body corporate fees we would have paid. I think about the equity that I 126 00:07:37,369 --> 00:07:40,851 would have put into it, but I took the equity and built four businesses 127 00:07:40,911 --> 00:07:44,013 out of it, and that's the difference. Then I also scaled the 128 00:07:44,053 --> 00:07:47,275 wealth and put that into shares. It's not like people often think, oh, 129 00:07:47,295 --> 00:07:50,877 Lord, if you don't own property, what do you – I was like, well, we own a multimillion dollar share portfolio 130 00:07:50,897 --> 00:07:54,560 that does 14% returns each. where there's 131 00:07:54,580 --> 00:07:57,984 other things besides property, you know, like there's other asset classes, 132 00:07:59,045 --> 00:08:02,368 and people are so hell-bent on Bitcoin and stuff. I'm like, what? Like, 133 00:08:03,509 --> 00:08:06,792 it's one alternative, but it doesn't produce 134 00:08:06,832 --> 00:08:10,096 any cash flow. So how can it produce freedom? I was just always about freedom from 135 00:08:10,116 --> 00:08:13,679 the start. So businesses that produce cash flow and investments 136 00:08:13,699 --> 00:08:16,966 that produce cash flow just made more 137 00:08:17,086 --> 00:08:20,989 sense to me 15 years ago than ones that don't. That's 138 00:08:21,049 --> 00:08:24,393 all. And now I'm a living example of why I chose 139 00:08:24,433 --> 00:08:27,616 that, because I like to have geofreedom. And a lot of my friends who 140 00:08:27,636 --> 00:08:31,039 are living all overseas, they all have geofreedom too. I just felt 141 00:08:31,099 --> 00:08:34,442 that the capital was better spent on small businesses that can scale and produce 142 00:08:34,482 --> 00:08:38,045 cash flow than to have a property that I lived in that wasn't going to produce anything 143 00:08:38,085 --> 00:08:41,668 for me. And I see this a lot with people that live in the house that they've purchased. 144 00:08:42,028 --> 00:08:45,250 They've put a large deposit in there, which is their cash. They have no 145 00:08:45,290 --> 00:08:48,953 emergency buffer. They're borrowed $1.5 million. There's 146 00:08:49,013 --> 00:08:52,355 no deductions on it tax-wise if it's their PPI, their principal place 147 00:08:52,395 --> 00:08:55,477 of residence. And they're all struggling, sending their kids to 148 00:08:55,517 --> 00:08:58,700 daycare, and they struggle street, commuting every single day just to pay 149 00:08:58,740 --> 00:09:01,981 off a house. It just doesn't occur to me that that's 150 00:09:02,021 --> 00:09:05,322 a life well lived. That's all. It's not that it doesn't work. There's 151 00:09:05,342 --> 00:09:09,064 a lot of people that build wealth out of property. It's just that wealth 152 00:09:09,124 --> 00:09:12,466 is not just the amount that your house is worth that you sell when you're 153 00:09:13,387 --> 00:09:16,668 65. There's more to life than that. I find wealth 154 00:09:16,709 --> 00:09:20,090 in the freedom. That's where I find wealth. I find money buying 155 00:09:20,110 --> 00:09:23,152 me happiness not slavery. It's just a 156 00:09:23,332 --> 00:09:26,574 philosophical difference that I have. So I want to share the 157 00:09:26,614 --> 00:09:30,337 philosophical difference with other people. I want them to be hopeful, especially 158 00:09:30,357 --> 00:09:34,679 the younger generation. Do you have any kids? I'm going to be able to buy a house because of 159 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,883 the greed in this country with properties. It's disgusting. Politicians 160 00:09:39,903 --> 00:09:43,187 should be limited to one house because if they're not, they've got six. They're 161 00:09:43,207 --> 00:09:47,513 going to put policy in place to pump up the price because they're greedy pieces of shit. 162 00:09:47,653 --> 00:09:51,298 I'm thinking to myself, how do you provide hope and another 163 00:09:51,458 --> 00:09:55,923 way for younger people to build wealth that's not property? your 164 00:09:55,983 --> 00:09:59,627 kids going to – and by the way, if you're guaranteeing your kids on your property, congratulations, 165 00:09:59,667 --> 00:10:02,930 well done, awesome. It's nice you're doing that for them. But what about the kids that don't 166 00:10:02,950 --> 00:10:06,012 have you as a parent? How are they supposed to build wealth? Have you 167 00:10:06,053 --> 00:10:09,836 ever thought about them? Like I think of my niece and nephew. So I think of people, young 168 00:10:09,876 --> 00:10:13,339 kids that they're going to build, come up in a country that can't own their 169 00:10:13,379 --> 00:10:17,402 house. Like they want to build wealth, how are they going to do it? That's 170 00:10:17,462 --> 00:10:20,645 the message I'm giving. I want to show them another way. They can 171 00:10:20,685 --> 00:10:24,448 start small businesses. They can start online businesses. They can invest in shares. You 172 00:10:24,468 --> 00:10:27,952 can invest in shares as a kid when you're with some cool apps like Raise 173 00:10:28,072 --> 00:10:31,435 and Acorns and wherever you are in the world and you can actually help them invest when 174 00:10:31,455 --> 00:10:34,898 they're kids and they can get good habits. They can't do that with property when they're in 175 00:10:34,918 --> 00:10:38,441 their teens. How? They're not going to be able to do it. 176 00:10:41,465 --> 00:10:44,869 Without a doubt, property has worked for sure, and it will continue 177 00:10:44,890 --> 00:10:48,454 to work for the right people, but there's also a contingent out there, I'd say 50% of 178 00:10:48,474 --> 00:10:51,558 the population, that can't do it. What about them? How are 179 00:10:51,578 --> 00:10:54,723 we going to help them? I'm concentrated on helping them. That's why I 180 00:10:54,763 --> 00:10:57,987 decided to start the Anti-Property Rebellion. because I'm one of the few people at my age that's 181 00:10:58,007 --> 00:11:01,733 got a multi-million dollar net worth that hasn't owned one. Frankly, I'm bloody rare. So 182 00:11:01,773 --> 00:11:05,018 I wanted to be able to inspire that generation to actually build 183 00:11:05,038 --> 00:11:08,123 wealth other ways. And if you're watching this and you're inspired, good, I 184 00:11:08,143 --> 00:11:11,699 want to inspire you too. There's just other ways, right? And 185 00:11:11,799 --> 00:11:15,124 by all accounts, if property went through a massive correction over 50% and it's 186 00:11:15,184 --> 00:11:18,669 happened before, don't even, you look at history in the past, it's happened. 187 00:11:18,689 --> 00:11:21,893 It's happened right now in the United States. Property's falling fast. Now 188 00:11:21,913 --> 00:11:25,478 I'm not suggesting it's gonna happen in Sydney or you're flipping freaks about Sydney property market. 189 00:11:25,879 --> 00:11:29,043 You put something about Sydney and they're like, nah, and they throw rocks. Look, it 190 00:11:29,163 --> 00:11:32,245 may be that Australia goes through a correction. It might be that it 191 00:11:32,346 --> 00:11:35,569 makes a lot of sense for people to buy properties when they're cheaper and 192 00:11:35,609 --> 00:11:38,872 they're producing income that actually pays for themselves. It might be 193 00:11:38,892 --> 00:11:42,315 you can buy a cash cow property. I have looked at properties that produce 10% yield. 194 00:11:43,035 --> 00:11:46,779 I remember selling houses during the GFC. There was opportunities, right? 195 00:11:47,359 --> 00:11:50,608 But they're just not present now. And if you look at that 196 00:11:50,708 --> 00:11:53,870 market, it doesn't scream, buy me. So why in 197 00:11:53,910 --> 00:11:57,392 the world would I be trying to educate people to get into a bubble? It 198 00:11:57,432 --> 00:12:00,574 doesn't make sense. I much prefer to educate people to get something they can 199 00:12:00,634 --> 00:12:04,057 bootstrap when they're younger and build freedom. Because at the end of the day, wealth's 200 00:12:04,097 --> 00:12:07,339 about freedom of your time, becoming time rich, than 201 00:12:07,359 --> 00:12:10,681 it is to just accumulate property and build wealth. You know how many people I've spoken to 202 00:12:10,941 --> 00:12:14,143 who've got, I'm just talking to a lady, she's got $6 million worth 203 00:12:14,183 --> 00:12:17,426 of property, $3 million worth of debt, her net worth's $3 million, and she's 204 00:12:17,446 --> 00:12:20,688 looking for a side house to make ends meet. And she's mentally cooked 205 00:12:20,708 --> 00:12:24,091 because she's mentally in this social status game of like, I've got to buy more properties, 206 00:12:24,271 --> 00:12:27,473 like a flippin' idiot. I said, you know, if you divested them, put your money over 207 00:12:27,493 --> 00:12:30,756 here and did this, you could actually be free and just travel the world. She's like, what? This is what's 208 00:12:30,776 --> 00:12:34,319 happening. People are so flippin' focused over here with this property game. They've 209 00:12:34,339 --> 00:12:38,062 forgotten what the whole objective is. is to buy yourself happiness! 210 00:12:38,522 --> 00:12:42,025 Enjoy and live a flippin' fruitful life! Not accumulate goddamn 211 00:12:42,065 --> 00:12:46,027 bricks and mortar! Get over yourself! Like, there's other ways! Anyway, 212 00:12:46,147 --> 00:12:49,529 that's why I've done those ads, because I want to start a rebellion that's just different. Because 213 00:12:49,549 --> 00:12:53,332 we have to teach people how to build wealth differently than just land, because it's getting ridiculous. 214 00:12:53,852 --> 00:12:57,235 So, I hope you've made, you've got value from this. I hope you see why 215 00:12:57,275 --> 00:13:00,698 I'm trying to carve this new thing out. I'm trying to inspire others to do something 216 00:13:00,738 --> 00:13:04,521 different. So, if you've enjoyed this and you feel the same way, leave 217 00:13:04,782 --> 00:13:07,984 me a comment in the comments below. 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