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And welcome to Binge Watch, the podcast where we take a look at the hottest new TV and film

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releases on streaming television platforms. I'm Hannah Fernando, the group editor of Woman

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and Woman Home Magazine. And I'm Ian McEwan, writer on TV satellite, TV Times. on TV magazines

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and today we're looking at new releases that would be available on Friday the 13th of December

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2024 including Elton John on the highs and lows of his sparkling career in the documentary.

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Elton John never too late on Disney Plus and Lisa Kudrow and Ray Romano as a couple tried

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to sell their Los Angeles home in the Netflix comedy series No Good Deed. And we'll also

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be checking out Emma and Matt Willis' Channel 4 documentary, Swiped, the school that banned

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smartphones. I've a lot to say about that. And discovering the secret lives of animals in

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a new wildlife series on Apple TV. But first, Ian, what is in the news? Saoirse Grounsull

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will lead the cast of the BBC's Gaelic drama, The Island, about the investigation of a brutal

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murder at a remote island mansion. What else is in the news, Hannah? Well, now TV's The

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Death of Bunny Monroe will star Matt Smith as a sex-obsessed salesman who takes a road trip

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with his young son after the death of his wife. Pretty decent selection for you this week.

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Starting with, wow, arriving on Disney Plus on Friday the 13th of December, this is a new

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rockumentary called Elton John, Never Too Late. And here's a clip. When I was very young. It

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was all consumed by music. I just wanted to become a songwriter. The album went soaring

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up in the charts. Did you know that you'd nailed it? Yeah.

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You don't have to hit back to here. The acclaim grew and the audiences grew. You're the most

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famous pop star in the world. This is a one-off documentary about Elton. It's co-directed by

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his husband, David Furnish, and a chap called R.J. Cutler, who is a very well-respected documentary

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maker from America who previously, he's done quite a lot of political documentaries, but

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he also did a film about Billie Eilish. This is looking back, focusing on the 1970s, this

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period in the 1970s when Elton shot to fame and just released a string of albums that went

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to number one. And then you've also got interviews with him today. Yeah, looking back on it and

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talking about his life, very candid interviews. He talks about his drug addiction, when he

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was very unhappy, even though he was really successful, he was desperately unhappy. He

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was groundbreaking in that he came out, well, initially he came out as bisexual. in an interview

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in Rolling Stone magazine, which was unheard of back in those days. I remember back in the

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seventies, Hannah, before your time, my sister bought the album Captain Fantastic and the

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Brown Dirt Cowboy, which got this brilliant cover. It's a bit like a Hieronymus Bosch painting.

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I remember listening to that. And that is one of these albums that was at the point where

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Elton was becoming a megastar. Ever since then, I've been a massive Elton John fan. So we see

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I mean, people who've watched Rocketman, a lot of that, they'll recognise a lot of these things.

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So yeah, he talks about his unhappy home life, of course. We see that famous residency at

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the Troubadour Club in LA, which kind of started to break him in America and it got really good

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reviews. We see the Dodgers Stadium gig that he played. While he's been interviewed for

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this, he's on his farewell tour, which includes a return to the Dodgers Stadium. So... Yeah,

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he was famous for his, you know, his live shows, very flamboyant stage outfits, of course. And

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he talks about his family life and we see his boys, his boys come on stage at the Dodger

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Stadium. And it's really about, I mean, as well as celebrating that great, I mean, you know,

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probably after Lennon and McCartney, John and Torpin, the second greatest songwriting partnership,

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I would say, British rock and pop. Yeah, so as well as celebrating his wonderful music

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and incredible performance, and also opening up about his private life, he's kind of saying,

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and the title is Never Too Late, which is also, I think, a new track that he's released that

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plays over the closing credits. More important than any of the success was the fact that he

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was able to kind of find out who he really was, express that. and have a family and find happiness.

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I was already sold on this because I love Elton John. And I had a chat with RJ Cutler, the

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co-director, and he, there's one section in the film which is really interesting. John

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Lennon and Elton John hooked up at a point when John was estranged from Yoko. Elton sang backing

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vocals on a John Lennon single and said, he said, this is gonna get to number one. And

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John Lennon said, no, it isn't. and Elton said, well, I bet it does. And if it does, you've

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got to agree to come on stage with me at one of my concerts. And it did go to number one,

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and he did go on stage and at Madison Square Garden. And we see that, that moment when he

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comes out. And R.J. Cutler was a very, very young lad. And he was at that gig. So he saw

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John Lennon and Elton John playing together. So yeah, it's definitely a labor of love, a

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passion project. It is really well done. It's really well put together. highly recommended.

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Hannah, did you like this? Yeah, do you know what Ian, I think you're right, this is a total

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passion project, isn't it? And both of us really like these kind of music documentaries, but

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with Elton, I mean, you know, you'd have to live under rock not to know one of his songs

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or to be moved by something that he's done or sung. And he seems to be sort of... a real

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survivor in this industry in many ways hasn't he because it was against all the odds he's

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made it but really it's just an absolutely true talent he's incredibly generous with his time

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with his money and seems very well liked in the industry really and I think the fact that

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you sort of see his life how difficult it's become well how difficult it was and how I

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suppose it's become easier once you say is he as he came out and he was comfortable being

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gay and kind of admitting that. That was such a massive thing for somebody at that time.

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But also I think it's hitting at a time where Elton is struggling, isn't he? He's struggling

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at the moment. He's struggling with his eyesight. He's quite a different man that's on the stage

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than all these years ago. And so for a lot of people, it will, I suppose tug at the heartstrings

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because you see his journey and where he is today. just, I think it's great. I mean, it's

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just so honest. Well, it feels very honest. It feels very authentic. I'm sure, I mean,

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it does document the highs and the lows. Of course it does. And of course it will have

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absolutely his spin and what he wants us to see, but it feels very, very thorough. I think

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people enjoy it. Next up, very much something that's in your wheelhouse, Hannah, on Channel

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4, a new two-part documentary. showing on Wednesday the 11th and Thursday the 12th of December.

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You'll be able to watch it on Channel 4 streaming as well. It's swiped the school that banned

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smartphones. And here's a clip. Say goodbye to your Snapchat street. Join us as we lock

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away our smartphones for 21 days. It's going to be like the olden days. To see how much

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damage our devices could be doing to us. Since the dawn of time, kids didn't have phones.

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I don't know how they coped. Swiped. The school that bans smartphones on channel 4 starts Wednesday

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the 11th of December. This is something really close to my heart actually because I have children

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of the age that are into phones and well who isn't into phones you see two year olds in

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prams with phones don't you swiping and being able to use that smartphone probably better

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than I can and I'm not that old but they just it's second nature to these kids and this works

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really well in my opinion because not only is a subject matter very important, but it's also

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presented by two people who I think their daughter is 14, I think their eldest daughter is 14

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or around that age, a real pivotal moment in most children's lives, hormones raging, and

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of course, they are beginning to get into that social media and sort of everything that you

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perhaps ideally don't want them to. And this is a two-part documentary and it really examines

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the impact of this technology. on children's wellbeing and I didn't think I was shockable

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but actually from what I've seen so far it brings a tear to my eye because I think any parent

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that and actually even yourself if you're not a parent you can recognise it in yourself how

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addicted you become to these smartphones and it's not your fault the technology is there

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to addict you it's there to get that dopamine hit for you to want to go back and back and

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back and back and then of course the really sad part of social media which is just so awful

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where we all become little lemmings, we all want to follow each other and the very dark

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side where you measure yourself against things that are just you can't do that, it's immeasurable

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and the sad stories that come from that. So you know for me this is something really close

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to my heart because it's really hard to navigate and this is really massively unregulated at

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the moment and we've seen in other countries, Australia now banning them in schools. In this

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documentary, they team up with the Stanbury School, which is in Colchester in Essex, and

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it's a group of year eight pupils, so year eight's what, 12 to 13 age group, and they get rid

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of their devices for 21 days, and it's just an experiment really. And you can see straight

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away these children, I can't imagine being without it, the withdrawal symptoms. are absolutely

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huge but they wanted to check their behaviour, their cognitive abilities, attention reaction

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times, memory, sleep because of course that blue light, anxiety, mood, loneliness, all

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the things that I do, in fact I took my child's phone away from her for three weeks and I can

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absolutely tell you there's a correlation between poor behaviour, poor attention span, upset,

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and that being taken away is quite a different child. Now I'm not saying you can take it away

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forever because you have to navigate these times, but I completely am on board with this and

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I can see it. And I saw Matt Willis' interview today actually, and he welled up, he was almost

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on the verge of tears at what this does to children. And the come down, when you've got that addiction,

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it's just the same as taking drugs, and I always use this analogy, it's just the same as taking

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drugs. you take it away, you go cold turkey, you have to go through that awful period of

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low before you can find yourself again. And it's so hard as a parent, how long do you keep

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that phone away? You know, will they find another way? Do they find a burner phone? Do they use

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someone else's account and use their Snapchat details to get into that or TikTok or whatever

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their chosen social media is, you know, and then compromise other things? Yes, possibly.

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So you're juggling this all the time. So this is an experiment that is just so... pertinent

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and so important at this moment in time when there is no regulation at all and which there

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needs to be and I think that it's just absolutely fascinating and people need to sit up and listen

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and if I could turn back the clock I'm not sure I would have given my children smartphones

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for secondary school I think the old brick might have just done the trick and but you've got

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to be fairly strong-willed to let that happen because of course your children are going to

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go through a bit of bullying probably on the way for having that phone. So it's a really

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tricky one, no judgment, just I think it's an amazing documentary shining some light on some

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really serious topics that would never seem to be a priority because frankly they probably

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make too much money. It's a real Pandora's box isn't it and so you know pornography of course,

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they

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Material about how to kill yourself and the lack of regulation as you say Hannah say getting

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Matt and Emma to front it Works really well. It makes it very kind of very digestible and

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very kind of approachable and they go into school and they talk about their own experiences with

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their kids and I can I say can I say I Think Matt's landed on his feet there really to be

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honest because she seems to be the one who's got her head screwed on, like she says, and

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you did do all the security stuff on the kids' phones, didn't you, to stop them? And he said,

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no. But yeah, they get into the spirit of it and they're just nice people, aren't they?

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So yeah, super topical. Interesting to see the kids reacting. Initially, some of them are

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quite up for it, but very quickly, they're not happy. Although you do see these two lads quite

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soon after giving up their phones. they're outside playing and one saying to the other, I can't

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believe you're getting so much enjoyment just from a stick. But you think, yeah, kids playing

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outside. This is good. This is positive. So yeah, very timely. Very interesting. Over on

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Apple TV Plus. Now you're going to have to wait a little while for this one because it doesn't

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land till Wednesday the 18th of December. It's a new wildlife series called The Secret Lives

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of Animals. And here's a clip. Experience a world beyond imagination.

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Lizards walk on water. Apes master tools. frogs disappear in plain sight. This has a stamp

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of quality because it's made by BBC Studios' Natural History Unit. And it's narrated by

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Hugh Bonneville, yes. So we're kind of spoiled with the incredible wildlife shows that we

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get to see. I think it's always a bit of a challenge finding new ways to kind of theme them or kind

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of divide them up or... but what they've done in this is sort of pivotal moments in life

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cycles. So the first one is, the first episode is about leaving home. Okay, that's what all

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these stories have in common. But we do see some interesting stuff. There's this lizard

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that is colloquially known as the Jesus Lizard. It can literally walk on water. It's quite

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a remarkable sight. Another lizard is coming, sort of moving in on its territory and it needs

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to escape and it just runs across this expanse of water. with its incredibly large feet. So

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that was great. Then there's a fish that can kind of come on land and sort of jump by using

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its tail almost, it's like a spring. There's amazing footage of an elephant crossing a sort

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of raging river. And all you can see is the very tip of the trunk, just above the surface

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of the water in this very fast moving river. That's astonishing. So yeah, it's all high

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quality filmmaking. And also you get, which is commonplace at the end now, you get a look

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at the making of, and they're actually looking at how they captured the astonishing pictures

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of this elephant doing a river crossing. So yeah, it's also a wood mouse. So there's this

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wood mouse that is in fear of being preyed on by an owl, and it's sort of running about in

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vegetation. but so that it can very quickly find its way back to its burrow, it literally

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leaves almost like a sort of trail of breadcrumbs so that it can follow its path back really

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quickly and get below ground. So yeah, there's lots of great stuff coming up and I enjoyed

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it. What did you think, Anna? I love things like this because the animal world is just...

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unbelievably intriguing. We could learn so much from them. They're just, it's so simple isn't

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it really? Yet the stuff they do is so intricate. I mean like you say about the leaves, who yeah,

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how they thought that? I often think that about ants. If you ever see ants in the garden and

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they kind of all got their own jobs, same with bees, they've all got their own work and what

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they've got to do and yet somehow they're just in this animal kingdom. It is survival of the

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fittest. with their roles, just like we are when we go to work and we take our role on.

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They're all going about it. And what's interesting about this is some of the animals that you

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kind of didn't know, some unusual, extraordinary animals that you didn't know, like the fish.

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And I don't know, I just feel like we have so much to learn from animals and seeing them.

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they're leaving home you kind of you kind of but that they flee the nest if you like and

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they move on it just makes you feel really sad you humanize these creatures don't you but

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actually no it's the animal world okay if anyone's ever been on Safari they'll know what that

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feels like because I remember once was on honeymoon went Safari and we saw this pack of lions and

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I didn't want them to kill the impala it was just awful I didn't want to see that but then

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after five days of not getting any food for her young we'd been schlepping after them and

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tracking them. And suddenly you wanted her to, suddenly you became part of an understanding

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of what they needed and what they required in being a survivor of the fittest. So yeah, I

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really liked it. And Hugh Bonneville did a good job. We're going to finish over on Netflix

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with a new comedy series that arrives on Thursday the 12th of December. It's called No Good Deed.

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And here's a clip. BOOM

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Good morning, house huntees. Wow. Look at Margo. She looks like an AI-generated bitch. What

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do you like, Margo? Because I can't tell. If you're serious about making an offer, think

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about a number and then go way above that. You look like a nice couple. Just make sure we

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find the right buyers. Yes, fans of Lisa Kudrow, who anyone who doesn't know her is the Friends

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actor, will enjoy this because this is her play a part that's a little bit different. It's

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quite a comedy, but it's pretty creepy in places and essentially it sees her and her husband

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trying to sell their very beautiful, I'm going to tell you that now, very, very beautiful,

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lovely home. It's kind of... Spanish style Los Angeles villa. It's massive, let's be clear.

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But they want to sell it but they're trying to hide all the dark secrets and so you can

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see these real estate agents coming around showing people around and they're looking through these

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cracks in the walls and they're looking to see who they want, they've got kind of cameras

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everywhere to see who they want to buy it. And there's I think it's three or four couples

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that are vying to buy this house. they want to do it before the secret's out in the house

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and I'm not going to say what's gone on in this house but it's pretty creepy and as it goes

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on you can see these couples that want to buy it are so determined and you know what it's

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like when you can't have something or you don't think you're going to get something you want

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it even more and that's exactly what happens here so you know Lisa Cadro and her husband

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have some really funny together actually they work really well together you kind of see their

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marriage, they're brought together because of what's happened and what they're essentially

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they're trying to do but it goes from being quite comedic but I think at the beginning

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to suddenly taking quite a dark turn a couple of places and suddenly like oh actually this

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is a bit creepy in places and these kind of say these quite dangerous secrets that they're

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trying to cover up but I'm not going to say what any of that is because it will just give

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the whole thing away. It's fun, it's a bit different. If you like Lisa Cadro you'll like this. There

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are some good names in here, really good cast. There's rescue me's Dennis Leary who plays

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scary ex-con Mikey and Luke Wilson plays the depressed soap star JD. For me, Lisa Cadro

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and Romano, they're such main characters in this. and they work really well together. And

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I think if they didn't work really well together, you'd have a real problem in this, but it's

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good fun. I think you'll enjoy it. It's not too serious, but it is a little bit creepy

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in places. What do you think, Ian? Well, I certainly was looking forward to it because yeah, Lisa

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Cutter obviously from Friends, which is still shown a lot. I still watch it. And I think

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she had the most challenging role in Friends, to be honest, and she was absolutely superb

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in it. Also an old sitcom that is regularly shown on Channel 4 most days, Everybody Loves

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Raymond, which was created by and stars Ray Romano, kind of based on his own life really.

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And that's worth a look if you've never seen it, it's hilarious, a domestic sitcom. So yeah,

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I thought, oh well this sounds promising. I will flag out that I, because I thought it

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was going to be quite sort of light, I wasn't particularly paying attention. I was watching

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it. I felt tonally it was a slightly odd because it's supposedly a comedy but then when Dennis

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Leary's character turns up it's violent and then also the secret which I always say I won't

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reveal about the house is a really tragic and depressing one so I thought it was tonally

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quite odd. It has got some good people in it. At its best there's good chemistry between

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Kudrow and Romano. They're funny together, but there's quite a lot of clunky exposition about,

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oh, this is why A, we have to sell the house, but B, why it's so important to us who gets

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it. And this doesn't, you know, it didn't really add up. Then there's these high stakes added

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by Leary's character, again, didn't really add up. So I sort of found, as it went on, I mean,

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I only watched episode one. I didn't really care whether they sold the house or not. and

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I didn't really care who bought it. But I did enjoy seeing them playing off each other. And

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perhaps if I'd given it my undivided attention, perhaps I'd be giving it a slightly more favorable

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review. But yeah, I mean, if you like those two great comic actors, worth a look. Well,

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Hannah, time for a quick roundup of the other good stuff that is on this week. So arriving

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on Paramount Plus on Friday the 13th, we wanted to preview it, but we didn't get a screener.

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Dexter Original Sin, which is a sort of backstory of Dexter Morgan played by Patrick Gibson.

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Another Netflix offering arriving on Friday the 13th December. Carry On, which is a thriller

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starring Taran Edgerton, speaking of Elton John, as an airport security officer. And it's already

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been billed as the new Die Hard, a classic Christmas movie, isn't it Hannah? So yes, and a couple

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of things. Oh, I tell you what. I wish we could have done this Hannah, you would have loved

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to preview this. It arrived on Netflix on Tuesday the 10th of December, in fact I'm going to

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watch it tonight. Prince Harry's documentary about Polo. Wow, I cannot wait. You'll be captivated

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Ian I'm sure. Finally after me rambling on about all that stuff, we're going to find out what

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you've been binge watching on Hannah. Well, we talked about it last week. Jack in time.

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Oh, yeah. Great. Love it. And also, I'm not sure if it's just because of everything that's

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going on in the press about Greg Wallace at the moment, but MasterChef just seemed to be

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on everywhere I looked. And I just kept seeing him everywhere. So I just tuned in and watched

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that for a bit. Just because, well, just because. I do like MasterChef anyway, but it does seem

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to be absolutely everywhere. Yeah, I agree. I've been watching it. as well. I've loved

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this series. It is almost a shock when Greg suddenly appears. You think oh why haven't

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they edited him out? Anyway, we've just got time to look ahead to... Oh it's a big one

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next week Anna. What's happening? Well it is the, drum roll please, bumper Christmas and

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New Year binge watch podcast and we'll be rounding up all the festive treats on streaming. and

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so-called normal TV, including the return of Gavin and Stacey. Yes, Stacey is on the cover

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of A Woman Home, just saying, putting it out there. Joanna Page is there. Amazing. She looks

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great. And the new Wallace and Gromit adventure too. Plus the latest Harlan Coban adaptation

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on Netflix, Missing You, featuring Rosalind Eliezer, Lenny Henry, Ashley Walters and Richard

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Armitage. The Strictly Christmas Special, of course. And I should add, Hannah, that the

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Christmas double issues of What's on TV, TV and Satellite Week and TV Times are all in

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the shops now with everything you need for your festive viewing. Anyway, we look forward to

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all of that and much more, but in the meantime, listeners... Keep watching!