Well, we were on a season break. We sharing with you some bonus shores from an old episode. Normally we create one short for each episode. For this break, we focus in on one episode in particular, which is episode 72. Rewiring the brain understanding and overcoming driving anxiety with Joshua Fletcher. And we've clipped this into several small shorts, all around five minutes each. This episode is probably the episode that we share the most with those of you who gets in touch and are asking for help. So, if you have driving anxiety, there's probably something for you in one of these shores. I can't say what was my biggest takeaway. There was so many. As you probably heard in the, you know, the. The conversation we had, but the first one is like we tell everybody really is baby steps. Isn't it. Yeah. Just taking those little steps. One of the things it's seems to be a common theme. Yeah, it is one of the messages that I think we try to put across in most episodes. So it's really nice when we invite an expert on and they say the same thing. Yeah. Yes. I know that I'm on the right lines, you know, when I'm teaching people or when we're in the car coaching, whatever it may be. Um, but you know, he mentioned that we're doing the right things. When we get people just to sit behind the steering wheel. I won't say facing the fears like I did in, uh, in the interview, but, you have to be scared. You know, you're facing those fears. To a certain extent, but you're not. Going too far. You're just taking that baby steps. So, yeah, that was one of my. Yeah. There was so many things that Josh said that linked into that wasn't there. It's sort of counter-intuitive I know that. But like he said that feeling of fear is not the enemy itself. That feeling of fear is a normal, natural instinct. And it will pass. And once it passes. To do the thing. That made you have those feelings anyway. Or to tolerate a certain level of anxiety. It's that, that rewires the brain. I mean, that's really important information. Isn't it? Yeah, it. It's great. And it's, uh, It's so, so important for people that are anxious with their driving. know that. It won't last. Yeah. Do you know it won't last and if you can just. You know, get him back to driving, sitting behind the steamer. If you can just get back. And, you know, Just sit there just for a moment. Recognize it. And do you know, it won't last forever, those feelings that you have. But then also say, well done to yourself. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. So this comes back to the baby steps again. So if you're going to feel a certain level of anxiousness, this is why it's important to have a baby step. So it's not too overwhelming or so it doesn't feel impossible, but then coming back to what you just said there. The acknowledging that it was you, who did it? Yeah. Give yourself the credit. Give yourself the credit. Yeah, definitely. And I recognize that with some of the people that we've worked with and spoken to talking about open windows, bottles of water, people sat next to the. Having all of these, well, actually even having a driving instructor sat next to you. I mean, that is the ultimate. I called it a crutch. Josh called it a safety behavior. It doesn't matter what term you use. It's all the same thing. So when you achieve your goal, when you achieve your baby's success, Is making sure that it's you, who did it and you recognize it's you, who did it. So Josh used the phrase recognizing it was your bravery and your courage. So owning that. It was your bravery and your courage that helped you achieve that. And I think that's so important. And again, Not just in driving. Is it. You know, I mean, I know. We are doing the driving podcast, but it's it's, it is in life. Isn't it? We take for credit that it was, if I didn't have my music on, I wouldn't have run that mile. When in actual fact it's like, well done you for actually running a mile. Yeah. Absolutely great to have these things if they help you, but not, if you feel that they're the only thing that got you through. You who did it? A couple of other things that came up for me. Was that word acrophobia. I had never considered that before, but yes, the almost. Gives it a different position instead of, oh yeah. The sketch driving then of some driving. It's like, well, how'd she know you've got agoraphobic tendencies. Um, I think given it a name it is something that you need help, where there is some things. The might take steps to overcome. It's not something just to brush under the carpet and hope that it will magic away somehow. It won't it won't I mean, it's nice that there is something there that, you know, being a Griffo BIC. Oh, that's that's. I can go and look at that and maybe deal with it slightly differently now, but definitely don't use that as a label. As an excuse to not do anything about it. So Josh was really clear there. Associations can change. You can rewire your brain. So don't use that label as an excuse to not do anything. Use it as maybe a bit of a push. To do something about it. The other thing that was talking about that we, you know, the whole idea of this podcast was the mystery driving anxiety. Where does this mystery anxiety come from? And Josh talked there about that accumulation of life stress. And that sometimes it's just one thing and it can be really. Tiny, nothing Orpheus. That was the one drop. The one thing that the straw that broke the camel's back, the one drop that made the stress bucket or jug. Overflow. Um, so factoring that in, when you're thinking about, if you had mystery driving anxiety, what was going on in your life, what was happening at that time? And perhaps it was that general accumulation of life stress, as opposed to seeking the, the one thing that triggered the stress in the moment. If you were going through a stressful time. That will have been enough to have triggered that driving anxiety. Yeah, it does. It does affect your driving. Doesn't it? Great. So we got loads from that and. We hope that you get loads from it too.