1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,060 Just a quick message before we get into this episode. 2 00:00:03,060 --> 00:00:11,000 While all of our shows are normally kid-friendly, family-friendly, and we love kids and love that they listen to our show, 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:16,000 the guest in this episode used a few words that may not be appropriate for all ages of ears. 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:21,140 So just a word of warning, you may want to listen first before listening in the car with your little kiddos. 5 00:00:21,140 --> 00:00:26,500 On this episode of the Dudes and Dads podcast, we talk with our friend Jason Brick about safety. 6 00:00:26,500 --> 00:00:32,260 Joel! 7 00:00:32,260 --> 00:00:33,600 Andrew. 8 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,900 How are you doing today? 9 00:00:35,900 --> 00:00:40,980 Well, I think you said it earlier, but it's been a long day. 10 00:00:40,980 --> 00:00:42,640 It has, man. 11 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:48,820 This time of year especially is just, I don't know, it just seems tough with all of the stuff going on. 12 00:00:48,820 --> 00:00:54,540 I have amnesia about this season every year that we enter into it and we're like, oh right, a lot of things going on. 13 00:00:55,340 --> 00:01:02,900 And, you know, the weather right now is sunny one day and very not the other. 14 00:01:02,900 --> 00:01:05,980 So we're figuring it out. 15 00:01:05,980 --> 00:01:06,700 We'll get through it. 16 00:01:06,700 --> 00:01:07,720 Eventually it'll be morning. 17 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:08,440 May is here. 18 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,840 Maybe that means new things. 19 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,600 Hey everybody, welcome to the Dudes and Dads podcast. 20 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,120 Glad to have each and every one of you along for the ride. 21 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,820 Glad to have our conversation that we're going to have. 22 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,980 And Andy, I'm particularly glad to be across the table from you. 23 00:01:25,980 --> 00:01:30,100 It seems like it's been a while, but it's only last week of recorded last episode. 24 00:01:30,100 --> 00:01:33,300 So we're, we're, uh, we're in rapid succession here. 25 00:01:33,300 --> 00:01:33,760 We are. 26 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:34,180 Yeah. 27 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:43,360 But, uh, so Joel, we had a conversation last week about college grads and their jobs and all of that good stuff. 28 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:43,580 Yes. 29 00:01:43,580 --> 00:01:57,580 Why, why young people are struggling to maintain their employment out of college and why certain business leaders are saying, I cannot hire these people. 30 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,500 I won't hire these people. 31 00:01:59,500 --> 00:02:05,060 And, uh, and just, it was a little bit of a generational black ball as I, as I think I put it. 32 00:02:05,060 --> 00:02:09,420 So we did get feedback, voicemail feedback, and we appreciate that. 33 00:02:09,420 --> 00:02:12,020 So Steven has let us called in. 34 00:02:12,020 --> 00:02:14,300 Are you talking about the Steven Berkey? 35 00:02:14,300 --> 00:02:14,780 I am. 36 00:02:14,780 --> 00:02:17,540 And so let's listen to that. 37 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,480 Hey, Andy and Joel, this is Steven. 38 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:30,280 Um, just listened to your latest episode about the 20 somethings, uh, struggling in the job world and, uh, appreciate it. 39 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:31,800 It was really interesting conversation. 40 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:43,500 Uh, I thought I'd leave a little bit of feedback, um, regarding that, not directly regarding that, but in my job as I work at a, as a lender at a bank, um, I've had multiple times. 41 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:58,040 Where I've had, uh, mid to late 20 somethings that need a loan for a car or house that instead of them calling me up and asking the questions, setting up the appointments, it's been mom or dad, uh, doing that. 42 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:06,940 As a parent of a teenager, I'm not there yet, but I always think on those situations, you know, I think we're kind of doing a disservice if that's the case. 43 00:03:07,420 --> 00:03:13,340 Um, at that point, uh, certainly mom and dad, I think can be great, uh, guide given advice. 44 00:03:13,340 --> 00:03:18,060 Um, but at some point you gotta kind of let them, uh, run on their own. 45 00:03:18,060 --> 00:03:23,160 Um, and if you're going to hold their hand through it, I think we're, we're maybe doing a bit of a disservice. 46 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,680 Um, so anyway, just wanted to throw that two cents in there. 47 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:32,840 Um, you know, maybe a challenge as a parent, you know, certainly want to equip them, but at some point they got to stand on their own two feet. 48 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,360 So thanks guys. 49 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:35,380 Appreciate the show. 50 00:03:35,380 --> 00:03:35,860 Thanks. 51 00:03:36,300 --> 00:03:39,120 Steven Berkey coming through big time on the voicemail. 52 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:39,700 Yes. 53 00:03:39,700 --> 00:03:40,940 That's wow. 54 00:03:40,940 --> 00:03:43,080 I, Andy, I had not even considered that. 55 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,020 I had not even considered that dynamic. 56 00:03:45,020 --> 00:03:46,400 And wow. 57 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:51,080 From, uh, from somebody who's, who's in the banking world working through the lending. 58 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,360 I mean, I can't even imagine Andy. 59 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:59,700 I don't even know when I having my parents at that age call in right for me. 60 00:03:59,700 --> 00:04:00,320 Right. 61 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:05,400 And I understand helping out a little bit for them to call in, but if you have voicemail, 62 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,720 we would love to talk to you, uh, hear your voicemail. 63 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,380 Five, seven, four, five, oh, one, four, four, six, seven is our voicemail number. 64 00:04:11,380 --> 00:04:15,840 Five, seven, four, five, zero, one, four, four, six, seven. 65 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,060 Join, join the crowd. 66 00:04:18,060 --> 00:04:22,060 Get on board with, with Steven Berkey. 67 00:04:22,060 --> 00:04:23,860 Leave the voicemail. 68 00:04:23,860 --> 00:04:24,980 That was Steven. 69 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:26,740 I just have to say that was fantastic. 70 00:04:26,740 --> 00:04:28,240 Love the, love the feedback. 71 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,300 I hope it inspires more because we, we just love, we love to hear the thoughts. 72 00:04:32,300 --> 00:04:32,900 That's great. 73 00:04:32,900 --> 00:04:33,300 Awesome. 74 00:04:33,300 --> 00:04:35,500 So thank you, Steven, for calling that in. 75 00:04:35,820 --> 00:04:41,500 And tonight we are talking with a returning guest, Jason Brick, Jason, welcome. 76 00:04:41,500 --> 00:04:45,140 Dudes and Dads podcast alumni, Jason, congratulations. 77 00:04:45,140 --> 00:04:48,640 You're amongst the few of the proud and the repeat offenders. 78 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,880 Thank you so much for having a, uh, taking the time to be with us. 79 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:52,520 We appreciate it. 80 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:53,960 Outstanding. 81 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:54,740 Thank you very much. 82 00:04:54,740 --> 00:04:56,200 It's always good to be a recidivist. 83 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,520 Yeah. 84 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:04,000 He's he, he escaped the program and has found him his way, his way back in further, for further 85 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:04,380 treatment. 86 00:05:04,380 --> 00:05:04,800 Yeah. 87 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:12,860 So, so for, for, for, for reference, we had you back on season four, episode 18, where we 88 00:05:12,860 --> 00:05:15,060 were talking about keeping our families safe. 89 00:05:15,060 --> 00:05:17,440 And that was all the way back in 2002. 90 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:18,380 Holy smoke. 91 00:05:18,380 --> 00:05:21,200 And so you have changed, you have changed back then. 92 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:25,140 You had no hair on the top of your head and you have a full, full lock of hair right now. 93 00:05:25,140 --> 00:05:30,160 So, and Jason, I have to say, I was, uh, pleasantly, I don't know if it was a pleasantly 94 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,280 alarmed by the, the flowing locks. 95 00:05:32,280 --> 00:05:36,780 It's really, uh, it's striking a little bit of gray in there perhaps too. 96 00:05:36,780 --> 00:05:39,080 So, uh, watch out. 97 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:39,940 Oh goodness. 98 00:05:39,940 --> 00:05:41,960 It's, uh, it's a good one. 99 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,520 It happened when, uh, we watched John wick and I asked my wife, Hey, you know, cause 100 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:46,640 I'm midlife crisis age. 101 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:46,920 Yeah. 102 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:51,180 Do you think I could pull off, pull that off? 103 00:05:51,180 --> 00:05:53,500 The, the John wick hair. 104 00:05:53,500 --> 00:05:53,840 Yeah. 105 00:05:53,840 --> 00:05:57,560 And she got a little cash in her throat and said, Oh, better try. 106 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,820 Oh, here we are. 107 00:05:59,820 --> 00:06:00,780 Well, here we are. 108 00:06:00,780 --> 00:06:01,700 Oh, nicely done. 109 00:06:01,700 --> 00:06:04,780 So, so lots has happened since 2002. 110 00:06:04,780 --> 00:06:06,480 Uh, do you mean 22? 111 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:07,700 Yes. 112 00:06:07,700 --> 00:06:10,060 And 2002, all the things. 113 00:06:10,060 --> 00:06:10,440 Yes. 114 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,920 So much has happened since 2022 though. 115 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:14,180 Yes. 116 00:06:14,180 --> 00:06:16,300 But you've written a book. 117 00:06:16,420 --> 00:06:17,980 Tell me a little bit about the book. 118 00:06:17,980 --> 00:06:19,300 Sure thing. 119 00:06:19,300 --> 00:06:24,600 So when I come on last time, I had just started my podcast, safest family on the block, where 120 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:29,660 I found as many experts from as many different fields as I possibly could to tell me about 121 00:06:29,660 --> 00:06:31,240 keeping my family safe. 122 00:06:31,420 --> 00:06:37,480 And that would be a EMS captain one week, a police officer, the next, but you know, where 123 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:42,880 a lot of people think about safety, but I'd also get on a suicide counselor and a nutritionist 124 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,200 and a driving instructor. 125 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:44,940 Yes. 126 00:06:44,940 --> 00:06:46,860 Anybody from any area. 127 00:06:46,980 --> 00:06:52,500 And then I got together the 101 most important things that I learned from them all. 128 00:06:52,500 --> 00:06:53,380 Oh, nice. 129 00:06:53,380 --> 00:06:53,880 Nice. 130 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:58,440 And wrote it into this here book, which comes out on Tuesday. 131 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,040 See, I learned how to keep my family safe, not how to properly. 132 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,280 Lighting is everything, but yes. 133 00:07:05,280 --> 00:07:05,740 There you go. 134 00:07:05,740 --> 00:07:06,180 You're right. 135 00:07:06,180 --> 00:07:06,640 That's perfect. 136 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:07,440 You're right. 137 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:07,840 Yeah. 138 00:07:07,840 --> 00:07:14,960 And that comes out Tuesday, uh, this coming Tuesday, which I want to say is the fifth or 139 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,900 the sixth, six, six through a YMAA publishing. 140 00:07:18,900 --> 00:07:19,680 Nice. 141 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:20,040 Great. 142 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:20,840 Nice. 143 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:21,200 Yeah. 144 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:26,540 So, you know, uh, we always, anytime anybody's authored it, we've had an author on here with 145 00:07:26,540 --> 00:07:26,840 the book. 146 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:32,340 We, I always like to ask the question, like, what was your process in putting this together? 147 00:07:32,340 --> 00:07:36,520 Was it, you just went through every expert and you just condensed what they had said, or 148 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:42,100 was there kind of a, uh, Oh, like an internal organizing principle or how you assembled your 149 00:07:42,100 --> 00:07:42,640 content? 150 00:07:43,380 --> 00:07:47,520 Well, for this one, the, um, the book was always in mind from the very first interview 151 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:54,120 and I envisioned it as a 101 tips structure, which is what it ended up keeping, which is 152 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:58,900 really rare when you start a book that it actually resembles the original brief, original brief. 153 00:07:59,960 --> 00:08:04,680 Um, but in this case I just kept an Excel file open and for every interview I take the one 154 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,860 or two most important points. 155 00:08:06,860 --> 00:08:11,780 And one of the things I wanted to do was keep taking off the conceptual things, but, uh, the 156 00:08:11,780 --> 00:08:13,740 stuff that's actually a thing you can do. 157 00:08:13,740 --> 00:08:19,340 And so I try to mine one or two out of every episode, every, every interview. 158 00:08:19,340 --> 00:08:23,760 And then when I had a hundred good ones, I started writing the book. 159 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:25,440 Yeah. 160 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:25,480 Yeah. 161 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:32,560 I, uh, I, uh, as he's saying this, uh, Andy, I think to myself, uh, we should have done that. 162 00:08:32,560 --> 00:08:34,180 Yeah. 163 00:08:34,180 --> 00:08:36,480 We're like seven seasons. 164 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:36,820 Yeah. 165 00:08:36,820 --> 00:08:40,080 It's like, you know, gosh, we should go back through and look at all the things that people 166 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,620 have told us that might be of some use to people. 167 00:08:42,620 --> 00:08:44,880 If we just put it all together. 168 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:45,740 Yeah. 169 00:08:45,740 --> 00:08:47,840 That's a, that's, that's pretty wild. 170 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:53,780 What, um, you know, as this book and we obviously in our previous interview, which, you know, 171 00:08:53,780 --> 00:09:00,080 gosh, every time we have a returning guest, Andy, I just think to myself, time just flies. 172 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,880 Like I would not have, if you would have asked me how, how long ago we had the first interview, 173 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,120 I would have been like, Oh, not that long ago. 174 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:10,600 Well, I got the email from Jason a little while ago and I kind of, I like, we were so super 175 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,680 busy at the time and I didn't, I didn't respond to it, but I was like, when I saw it, I was 176 00:09:13,680 --> 00:09:15,200 like, man, that's a throwback. 177 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:16,440 When did we actually have him on? 178 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:16,800 Yeah. 179 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:16,900 Yeah. 180 00:09:16,900 --> 00:09:17,880 Absolutely. 181 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:18,700 Three years ago. 182 00:09:18,700 --> 00:09:19,480 Three years ago. 183 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:26,440 Um, and so Jason in this time, I mean, since we last talked till now, you know, as you think 184 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:31,320 about, uh, the, the kind of the commitments and the time that you've given to really having 185 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:37,560 this kind of safest family on the block conversation, what, what has developed in your mind? 186 00:09:37,560 --> 00:09:42,080 Have there been, have there been some new insights that you've gained, maybe previous 187 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,440 understandings that you've had that you've, you've shifted on what has been the learning 188 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:50,660 experience, uh, for you, uh, in this process as you've interviewed all these people again. 189 00:09:50,660 --> 00:09:56,120 And I think the amazing part is all these folks that have real life on the ground experience, 190 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:00,940 I'm sure that have, cause you've gotten a book out of it, like have real practical ideas, 191 00:10:00,940 --> 00:10:05,580 but as you've interacted with, with the various, your various guests and have had these conversations, 192 00:10:05,580 --> 00:10:10,220 what's sort of been your thought journey kind of from beginning to where you are now? 193 00:10:10,220 --> 00:10:15,280 So one of the big ones is I found out that the baddest asses on the planet are some of the 194 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:16,920 nicest, most giving humans. 195 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:17,520 Oh, wow. 196 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:17,920 Yeah. 197 00:10:18,020 --> 00:10:24,500 You know, you got in talking to special forces operators, veteran cops, martial arts masters, 198 00:10:24,500 --> 00:10:31,540 talk to a spy, a former CIA agent, and they were all so friendly and kind and giving it's 199 00:10:31,540 --> 00:10:37,080 to the point where if I meet somebody who says they're a tough guy and they're mean, I doubt 200 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:38,040 the tough guy credentials. 201 00:10:38,540 --> 00:10:39,220 Interesting. 202 00:10:39,220 --> 00:10:40,360 Yeah. 203 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:41,040 Yeah. 204 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:41,980 Um, yeah. 205 00:10:41,980 --> 00:10:48,140 One of the big changes that impacted my parenting and, you know, I come to this from my first 206 00:10:48,140 --> 00:10:53,440 career was in martial arts, security consulting, doing some body, God works and bouncing and then 207 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:54,120 into journalism. 208 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:59,820 But so a lot of this stuff was a little familiar to me or required tweaking, but one place that 209 00:10:59,820 --> 00:11:06,160 really changed was, I mean, after I talked to a lot of mental health experts, communications 210 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:10,640 experts, uh, that idea that a lot of us, cause we're about the same age. 211 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:16,080 We, you know, we grew up in families where if we got in trouble at school, we were going 212 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:17,160 to get in more trouble at home. 213 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:17,820 A hundred percent. 214 00:11:17,820 --> 00:11:18,680 Yes, absolutely. 215 00:11:18,680 --> 00:11:23,660 That our parents felt it was their responsibility to make our bad day worse. 216 00:11:23,660 --> 00:11:30,240 And I, you know, my two kids, they're 10 years apart and I raised the first one under 217 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:30,860 that model. 218 00:11:31,680 --> 00:11:38,000 And then I've learned better from talking to experts about being that trusted resource 219 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:38,660 for your kids. 220 00:11:38,660 --> 00:11:43,120 That if your kid gets into a fight at school or finds out they're getting an F, they don't 221 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:49,740 come home going, Oh God, just dreading telling us or just really sweating bullets. 222 00:11:49,740 --> 00:11:53,620 Cause they know the teacher made the call, but they come home knowing that, Hey, we're going 223 00:11:53,620 --> 00:11:54,420 to have a sit down. 224 00:11:54,420 --> 00:11:56,920 I'm going to get a hug and we're going to figure it out together. 225 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:03,640 And I'm not saying to, you know, shield them from the consequences, but we need to 226 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:10,240 first not add additional arbitrary con consequences at home. 227 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:16,620 The world's going to treat them mean enough and then walk with them to handle the meaningful 228 00:12:16,620 --> 00:12:19,340 natural consequences with discipline and grace and maturity. 229 00:12:19,340 --> 00:12:19,880 Yeah. 230 00:12:20,260 --> 00:12:23,120 And that's, that's not how I was raised by my parents. 231 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:24,820 That's not how y'all were raised by your parents. 232 00:12:24,820 --> 00:12:29,100 I don't think a lot of parents of people, our age raises that way. 233 00:12:29,100 --> 00:12:30,300 And it's not because they were bad people. 234 00:12:30,300 --> 00:12:32,200 It's because they hadn't learned. 235 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,020 That wasn't the way you raise good kids back then. 236 00:12:35,020 --> 00:12:35,760 Yeah. 237 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:40,800 But I found through a lot of these interviews that now we know better and now I'm doing 238 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,060 better to the point that I apologized to my oldest kid. 239 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,100 And we actually, between us, we call him the rough draft. 240 00:12:46,100 --> 00:12:48,300 Yeah. 241 00:12:48,300 --> 00:12:48,820 Yeah. 242 00:12:48,820 --> 00:12:52,640 Well, the eldest child is a little bit of a Guinea pig, a little bit of a Guinea pig. 243 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,000 We like to think we get better as we go along. 244 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,380 Which is funny because my youngest is always like, it's not fair. 245 00:12:57,380 --> 00:12:58,640 You don't know what it's like to be the youngest. 246 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,620 I'm like, you have no idea what it's like to be the oldest. 247 00:13:00,620 --> 00:13:01,620 Let me tell you. 248 00:13:01,620 --> 00:13:02,200 Yeah. 249 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:02,560 Yeah. 250 00:13:02,560 --> 00:13:02,900 Yeah. 251 00:13:02,900 --> 00:13:05,980 That rough, that rough draft face is a doozy, my friend. 252 00:13:05,980 --> 00:13:06,620 Yeah. 253 00:13:06,900 --> 00:13:12,500 And it's, you know, it's not just, um, you know, touchy feely woo woo stuff either, 254 00:13:12,500 --> 00:13:17,060 but it's also safety, safety related because if your kid learns in first grade that if he 255 00:13:17,060 --> 00:13:21,620 gets in a fight on the playground and you're going to be a resource instead of a threat, 256 00:13:21,620 --> 00:13:29,800 that means in eighth grade, ninth grade, when she's first thing, first gets offered drugs, 257 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,980 she's going to come talk to about that. 258 00:13:32,180 --> 00:13:37,660 And in sixth, sixth grade, you know, or not sixth grade, 16th grade, you know, sophomore, 259 00:13:37,660 --> 00:13:43,100 sophomore, junior year, when she's serious about her first boyfriend and is thinking about 260 00:13:43,100 --> 00:13:48,920 physical steps, she's going to listen to your advice, whether or not she directly seeks it. 261 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,860 And it also means when she's 27 and she's married to that guy who hit her once. 262 00:13:52,860 --> 00:13:53,340 Yeah. 263 00:13:53,340 --> 00:13:55,380 She's not going to try to keep that a secret from you. 264 00:13:55,380 --> 00:13:55,860 Yeah. 265 00:13:55,860 --> 00:13:58,120 She's going to come to you and ask what to do. 266 00:13:58,120 --> 00:13:58,500 Yeah. 267 00:13:58,500 --> 00:13:58,920 Yeah. 268 00:13:59,540 --> 00:14:03,620 Being a, I think that that topic has actually come up on this show a lot in one way or the 269 00:14:03,620 --> 00:14:08,180 other, being a safe place for our kids, being a trusted resource for them. 270 00:14:08,180 --> 00:14:14,860 And, uh, in the wild world of parenting these days where it feels like, uh, it, it is a really, 271 00:14:14,860 --> 00:14:20,200 and you know, it's a really intentional endeavor to stay ahead of the, you know, stay, have the 272 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:24,520 ball and be aware of the world in which our, our kids are facing. 273 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,300 Something that is different than the world in which we grew up as you've, as you've absolutely 274 00:14:28,300 --> 00:14:32,540 pointed out, even in terms of mindsets and of, you know, parenting approaches. 275 00:14:32,540 --> 00:14:40,860 Um, the, uh, I think it can be easy to get a little bit overwhelmed in knowing all the right 276 00:14:40,860 --> 00:14:47,360 moves to make, but, but the one overlapping, I think right, right move we can make is to be 277 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,340 available is to be available is to be a trusted is to be a trusted place for our kids. 278 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:56,860 Um, and maybe, and I mean, and not even necessarily the, the place for all the right answers, 279 00:14:56,860 --> 00:14:57,900 you know, either. 280 00:14:57,900 --> 00:14:59,480 Um, right. 281 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,140 I think it's important for our kids to know that we don't have all of the right answers, 282 00:15:03,140 --> 00:15:05,900 but we're here and we'll explore these things together. 283 00:15:05,900 --> 00:15:06,540 Yeah. 284 00:15:06,540 --> 00:15:11,520 It's more of a, it's more of a lesson on, on how, how to, how to navigate to find, to find 285 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:12,060 the answers. 286 00:15:12,060 --> 00:15:12,340 Right. 287 00:15:12,340 --> 00:15:15,280 Like, and even that, that kind of, that kind of insight and training. 288 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:16,040 Yeah. 289 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:20,660 My great grandfather used to have a line that he'd say to just, you know, I don't know by next 290 00:15:20,660 --> 00:15:21,400 week we'll both know. 291 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:21,920 Yeah. 292 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:22,140 Yeah. 293 00:15:22,140 --> 00:15:23,000 That's a good line. 294 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:23,420 I like it. 295 00:15:23,420 --> 00:15:23,800 That's a good one. 296 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:24,200 Yeah. 297 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:24,660 Yeah. 298 00:15:24,660 --> 00:15:28,520 So Jason, if I, if I pick up your book coming to come this Tuesday, I pick up your book. 299 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:29,820 What's the structure? 300 00:15:29,820 --> 00:15:30,400 What's the layout? 301 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:31,140 What can I expect? 302 00:15:31,140 --> 00:15:34,060 If I opened that first page, how, what am I getting into? 303 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:42,120 So it's 101 kind of blog length, blog post length treatments of different specific skills, 304 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,160 different specific ideas separated into 10 chapters. 305 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:46,940 The first one's golden rules. 306 00:15:46,940 --> 00:15:52,220 And these are things that apply across multiple situations or they're applied to just kind of 307 00:15:52,220 --> 00:15:52,820 one topic. 308 00:15:52,820 --> 00:15:56,620 but they're so important that I thought they needed training treatment right at the 309 00:15:56,620 --> 00:15:56,920 top. 310 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:02,160 Um, in many cases, they're busting some kind of child safety myth that's been held for 311 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:02,840 a long time. 312 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,160 Or that even though we know better, a lot of people have pushed back. 313 00:16:06,740 --> 00:16:09,260 And then from there, but there's nine other sections. 314 00:16:09,260 --> 00:16:14,200 So there's, there's one on fire prevention and accidents and first aid, and there's one 315 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,720 on driving safety and there's one on school safety. 316 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:21,420 And there's one on internet safety, one on dating and sex, one on communication, one on 317 00:16:21,420 --> 00:16:23,920 family vacation training, one on crime prevention. 318 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:29,980 And each of the, each of those sections has 10 tips or tricks that you can read and then 319 00:16:29,980 --> 00:16:30,560 go implement. 320 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:36,120 Like a couple of examples in the, in the golden rules, there's, uh, 321 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,340 debunking the stranger danger myth. 322 00:16:38,340 --> 00:16:39,860 Right. 323 00:16:39,860 --> 00:16:46,380 I mean, a lot of people still teach stranger danger, even though strangers don't hurt kids 324 00:16:46,380 --> 00:16:47,960 nearly as much as people they know. 325 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:48,300 Yeah. 326 00:16:48,300 --> 00:16:48,980 Yeah. 327 00:16:48,980 --> 00:16:54,300 And the people, the people who know, understand that you don't teach your kid, don't talk to 328 00:16:54,300 --> 00:16:54,760 strangers. 329 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:59,480 You teach your kids what strangers to approach if they lose track of you. 330 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:00,000 Yeah. 331 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:06,260 Because a kid who's with people they know, they don't need help. 332 00:17:06,260 --> 00:17:08,300 They're getting help. 333 00:17:08,300 --> 00:17:09,480 Yeah. 334 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:10,320 Yeah. 335 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,820 And so you teach them, you know, for youngest kids, especially if you can't find your family, 336 00:17:13,820 --> 00:17:19,020 go find another family because an adult with kids is statistically the safest adult for a 337 00:17:19,020 --> 00:17:19,740 child to approach. 338 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,660 You know, they're not likely to hurt a kid, at least not their own kids, unfortunately. 339 00:17:23,660 --> 00:17:25,640 And you guys have kids. 340 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:29,600 If a kid lost their people and came to you for help, you would stop at nothing short of 341 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,560 endangering your own kids to reunite that family. 342 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,620 That would be called today's project. 343 00:17:33,620 --> 00:17:33,840 Yep. 344 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:34,040 Yep. 345 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:34,640 That's right. 346 00:17:34,780 --> 00:17:38,960 You know, so things like that, um, all the way down to very specific things like for 347 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:39,840 car safety. 348 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,980 And this is a, this is what I got from a bodyguard named Nick Hughes. 349 00:17:42,980 --> 00:17:49,860 Uh, next time you buy a pair of sneakers, you take the old pair of sneakers and you put them 350 00:17:49,860 --> 00:17:53,220 in the trunk of the car and you do that for every family member. 351 00:17:53,900 --> 00:17:58,320 That way, if you have a breakdown on date night, your wife's not walking to the gas 352 00:17:58,320 --> 00:17:59,380 station in her stilettos. 353 00:17:59,380 --> 00:18:03,320 And it's a really easy, simple thing to do. 354 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,900 Next pair, you'd go in, you replace the one with the car shoes with the old shoes. 355 00:18:06,900 --> 00:18:10,740 And then the car shoes go into the trash or to goodwill, depending on how badly you abuse 356 00:18:10,740 --> 00:18:10,900 them. 357 00:18:10,900 --> 00:18:11,380 No. 358 00:18:11,380 --> 00:18:17,340 So it's, it's things of advice like that from the kind of conceptual, but still very specific 359 00:18:17,340 --> 00:18:23,800 with ways to act on it down to really, really simple little changes you can make in 360 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:28,040 how you move through the world that just make your family safer in ways that I hadn't 361 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:29,820 thought of before I started talking to these folks. 362 00:18:29,820 --> 00:18:34,480 Do you, uh, so, so here's what I'm interested in on your family side. 363 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:43,460 Uh, have your kids become, uh, the, uh, how, how do they handle being the recipients of, of 364 00:18:43,460 --> 00:18:49,460 a, of a dad who's, who's just become an encyclopedia of these, uh, like kind of best practices, 365 00:18:49,460 --> 00:18:51,060 tips and tricks. 366 00:18:51,060 --> 00:18:53,620 Uh, I I'm just wondering, uh, and, and again, 367 00:18:53,700 --> 00:18:57,100 remind me your, you got your kid's age is important in this, but I'm, I'm wondering 368 00:18:57,100 --> 00:19:01,160 how they interact, uh, interact with all of this and, uh, how you've learned to communicate 369 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:01,980 these things to them. 370 00:19:01,980 --> 00:19:03,320 Well, that's a good question. 371 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:07,660 The oldest was 20 when the project started, you know, and they both always had a karate 372 00:19:07,660 --> 00:19:11,860 dad, you know, so I've always been kind of in this already. 373 00:19:11,860 --> 00:19:14,320 And the oldest is 20, didn't have kids of his own. 374 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:19,340 And, but he was, you know, he was responding to some of them with, oh, that's nice, but dad, 375 00:19:19,340 --> 00:19:20,220 I don't have kids. 376 00:19:20,220 --> 00:19:24,180 Um, but some of the others were, oh, all right. 377 00:19:24,180 --> 00:19:26,940 I'm like, he's got spare shoes in the back of his car. 378 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:27,220 Yeah. 379 00:19:27,220 --> 00:19:27,280 Yeah. 380 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:27,440 Yeah. 381 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:28,300 Like that kind of thing. 382 00:19:28,300 --> 00:19:28,640 Yeah. 383 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:33,700 You know, when I, when I blew up and spent my first COVID, uh, COVID unemployment check 384 00:19:33,700 --> 00:19:38,720 building, really extensive first aid kits for every vehicle in the household, I was very 385 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:39,620 happy to do that. 386 00:19:39,620 --> 00:19:44,380 And then when I hurt my leg three months later, he had Coban wrap and a trauma pad on it from 387 00:19:44,380 --> 00:19:46,780 his kid before I was done using the F word. 388 00:19:46,780 --> 00:19:53,340 You know, I was 10 when I started, so he still thought I was a superhero. 389 00:19:53,340 --> 00:19:54,960 He's 15 now. 390 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:59,040 So he's starting to get, he's starting to roll his eyes a little bit, but you know, on the 391 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,440 times when it's, and this is an important thing I mentioned in the book several times 392 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:08,340 about involving our kids in our planning and our plans, but you know, he knows his roles 393 00:20:08,340 --> 00:20:11,640 in emergencies and practices them willingly with me. 394 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:16,580 Um, you know, I think I got another six months before I'm just the stupidest person he's 395 00:20:16,580 --> 00:20:19,180 ever met, but we'll see. 396 00:20:19,180 --> 00:20:24,460 Well, it's, I always like to, I, this is attributed to Mark Twain, but he, you know, he's got this 397 00:20:24,460 --> 00:20:27,480 quote where he, I, I think, I don't think it's apocryphal. 398 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:32,180 I think some, I, this is a summary, but you know, he says when, when I was growing up in 399 00:20:32,180 --> 00:20:35,960 the house, um, I thought my parents were the dumbest people on the face of the earth. 400 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:40,280 And then I went off to college and when I returned, I was amazed at how much they had 401 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:45,620 learned and, uh, you know, so the hope, the hope is always that, yeah, the light bulb turns 402 00:20:45,620 --> 00:20:50,000 on a little bit and I'm in perspective shifts a little bit and they see obviously out in 403 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:54,620 the real world that, uh, some of these, these principles and these guides are, are helpful 404 00:20:54,620 --> 00:20:57,680 and they actually, you know, they actually touch on, on real life. 405 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:02,580 Um, what you've mentioned a few here, just, just recently, practical things. 406 00:21:02,580 --> 00:21:06,340 Have there been other things that you've kind of had the aha with that you've implemented 407 00:21:06,340 --> 00:21:07,740 in the midst of this project? 408 00:21:07,740 --> 00:21:13,800 And you've just said to yourself, man, I'm glad I, I did that. 409 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:18,140 Or man, I'm glad that someone told me about that so that I could be prepared for it. 410 00:21:18,140 --> 00:21:19,840 Is it anything that kind of comes to your mind there? 411 00:21:20,260 --> 00:21:21,840 But there's all kinds of little things. 412 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,580 Um, and some of them aren't like, whew, I'm glad I did that. 413 00:21:25,580 --> 00:21:29,020 That's, it was would have gotten really bad if I hadn't. 414 00:21:29,020 --> 00:21:35,360 But, um, for example, I was telling Andrew before the show started that we spent last year in 415 00:21:35,360 --> 00:21:41,820 Crete and, uh, some of the travel advice there that I got for that chapter shows up little 416 00:21:41,820 --> 00:21:42,200 things. 417 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,960 Like if you're in a developed nation, you want a hotel room between the second and the seventh 418 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:52,580 floor because first floor is an invitation to break in anything above seven. 419 00:21:52,580 --> 00:21:56,620 You can't be sure that the ladder trucks will reach your room. 420 00:21:56,620 --> 00:21:58,080 Sure. 421 00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:58,880 Okay. 422 00:21:58,880 --> 00:21:59,420 Yeah. 423 00:21:59,420 --> 00:22:01,180 And that goes down to four. 424 00:22:01,180 --> 00:22:02,260 If you're in a developing nation. 425 00:22:02,260 --> 00:22:02,660 Yeah. 426 00:22:02,660 --> 00:22:02,900 Yeah. 427 00:22:02,900 --> 00:22:08,380 Um, little things like that or advice about, you know, when you're traveling, uh, keep, 428 00:22:08,380 --> 00:22:13,600 keep enough money to buy a trinket or pay for your meal in the front pocket and then keep 429 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,040 the other cash in other pockets. 430 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:21,140 But whenever you have to count or exchange money, go to the bathroom, sit down in the 431 00:22:21,140 --> 00:22:22,420 stall and do it there. 432 00:22:22,420 --> 00:22:23,060 Mm-hmm. 433 00:22:23,060 --> 00:22:24,460 That's good. 434 00:22:24,460 --> 00:22:25,260 That's good advice. 435 00:22:25,260 --> 00:22:29,680 Is there something that you, you found that kind of just really surprised you, uh, when 436 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:34,540 you look back at the lessons that you've learned over these 101 safety tips, is there one that 437 00:22:34,540 --> 00:22:38,320 surprised you that you were, you didn't really expect it kind of came out of nowhere? 438 00:22:38,980 --> 00:22:39,680 Oh yeah. 439 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,840 So, you know, that, that code word that we all got taught when we were kids, we've maybe 440 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:49,200 taught our kids where if we can't come get you at school or we can't come get you at soccer 441 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,580 practice, or we can't come get you at your parkour lessons. 442 00:22:52,580 --> 00:22:58,920 Uh, here's a code word that somebody you don't know will know to tell you if I have to send 443 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,240 like, you know, my, my office mate secretary to come get you. 444 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:03,120 Right. 445 00:23:04,100 --> 00:23:05,800 We we've heard this, we might be applying it. 446 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:06,040 Yeah. 447 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:06,780 Terrible idea. 448 00:23:06,780 --> 00:23:07,400 We shouldn't do it. 449 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:14,860 Um, the reason being, um, number one, they've tested it and the kids who are the age to need 450 00:23:14,860 --> 00:23:16,240 that can't remember it under pressure. 451 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,440 And number two, it's a secret. 452 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:27,020 How close does a child stand to somebody to somebody when they're telling secrets 453 00:23:27,020 --> 00:23:29,320 with an arms? 454 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:29,580 Yeah. 455 00:23:29,580 --> 00:23:30,000 Yeah. 456 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:30,100 Yeah. 457 00:23:30,100 --> 00:23:30,440 Close. 458 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:30,880 Yep. 459 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:31,600 Yep. 460 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:36,380 So the kid leans in to tell the secret and then they're. 461 00:23:36,380 --> 00:23:38,280 Yeah. 462 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:38,580 Yeah. 463 00:23:38,580 --> 00:23:38,760 Grab. 464 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,700 You know, I want to again, reiterate that strangers kidnapping kids is very, very, very, 465 00:23:42,700 --> 00:23:43,740 very, very, very, very rare. 466 00:23:43,740 --> 00:23:50,480 Uh, but this thing that was designed to prevent that actually makes it easier to do. 467 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:56,820 So the advice is actually, so imagine a situation where you or your spouse or the two or three 468 00:23:56,820 --> 00:23:59,900 other people who pick them up on the regular can't do it. 469 00:23:59,900 --> 00:24:00,920 They can't make it. 470 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:06,400 Uh, what would happen if you just called them and said, you're going to be late and to watch 471 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:07,900 your kid until you can show up. 472 00:24:07,900 --> 00:24:12,820 You trust those people with your kids because they're there already. 473 00:24:12,820 --> 00:24:16,820 Most of them like you and your kids and they're professionals. 474 00:24:16,820 --> 00:24:18,460 And this isn't the first time it's happened to them. 475 00:24:19,140 --> 00:24:25,820 And in the real big blow up emergencies, like a school, your school, your church, your karate 476 00:24:25,820 --> 00:24:29,680 school, whatever the facility is probably safer, more comfortable than your house anyway. 477 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:30,280 Hmm. 478 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:31,480 So. 479 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,800 For me. 480 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:34,880 Yeah. 481 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:35,000 Yeah. 482 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:37,280 Yeah. 483 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:37,860 That makes a lot. 484 00:24:37,860 --> 00:24:38,800 That makes a lot of sense. 485 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:39,340 Yeah. 486 00:24:39,340 --> 00:24:39,920 Yeah. 487 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:48,120 Um, what are, uh, as you think about this book, I, you know, uh, it's a, it's a labor of love. 488 00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:51,680 You're, you're sort of birthing this thing out into the, into the world. 489 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,480 Um, what, what is your hope for it? 490 00:24:54,480 --> 00:25:00,140 What, what, when you think about, uh, those that are potentially, uh, getting this and implementing 491 00:25:00,140 --> 00:25:05,280 it, um, what do you really hope kind of in your, in your heart of hearts that, um, you 492 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,320 know, comes out of people interacting with it? 493 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,780 I've got kind of a personal goal and a professional goal. 494 00:25:10,780 --> 00:25:12,000 Personal goal is real simple. 495 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,260 I wanted to save somebody's life. 496 00:25:14,260 --> 00:25:19,820 I want a kid to survive into adulthood and have kids and grandkids of their own and make 497 00:25:19,820 --> 00:25:24,140 a difference in the world because their parents read a chapter in this book at some point. 498 00:25:25,220 --> 00:25:31,980 Um, you know, I don't want any family to go through the experience that it would require 499 00:25:31,980 --> 00:25:37,160 for that to happen because I'm not a, I'm not a monster, but yeah, that's, that's what 500 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:37,840 I want for the book. 501 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,620 That's why I'm putting it out in the world. 502 00:25:39,620 --> 00:25:40,700 And I hope that happens. 503 00:25:40,700 --> 00:25:41,340 Yeah. 504 00:25:41,340 --> 00:25:48,520 Um, on a professional level, there's a book called the gift of fear by Gavin DeBecker, 505 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,320 which is like the go-to personal safety book and has been since the mid nineties. 506 00:25:52,820 --> 00:25:56,640 And that guy wrote a book called protecting the gift, which has been the go-to parental 507 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:57,860 safety book. 508 00:25:57,860 --> 00:26:01,760 You go, you know, you call 20 martial arts school today and do it that five times. 509 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,860 You've called a hundred martial arts schools and ask him, Hey, what book should I buy? 510 00:26:04,860 --> 00:26:05,700 I just became a parent. 511 00:26:05,700 --> 00:26:08,920 Uh, 90 of them will recommend protecting the gift. 512 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,580 And I want to just, I would outsell it. 513 00:26:11,580 --> 00:26:16,040 I want to replace its, its spot in the, in the ecosystem. 514 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,340 I want it to be the new protecting the gift. 515 00:26:18,340 --> 00:26:18,980 Awesome. 516 00:26:18,980 --> 00:26:19,340 Awesome. 517 00:26:19,340 --> 00:26:23,280 So what, what sparked you on to this whole project? 518 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:28,680 Not just the, not just the book itself, but, you know, think way back into the blog and 519 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:33,780 the podcast that you, that you started, like what actually started that for you to go, Hey, 520 00:26:33,780 --> 00:26:38,040 you know, cause you said yourself, you know, I was, I was doing a bunch of different things 521 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,020 before I did this and I changed it and did this. 522 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,780 So what sparred that on to go, Hey, I want to start this safety thing. 523 00:26:44,780 --> 00:26:48,280 So the very first seed goes back to 2008. 524 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,180 And that was the year I adopted my oldest son. 525 00:26:51,180 --> 00:26:54,240 And at that time I was running a martial arts school. 526 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,020 I had, I think I had four degrees of black belt. 527 00:26:57,020 --> 00:26:58,760 I had bodyguard assignments. 528 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,240 I had worked as a bouncer. 529 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:05,300 I had done very stupid things in very stupid places and came back still alive. 530 00:27:05,300 --> 00:27:13,220 Um, you know, I kind of thought I was a badass and, um, this adoption was, it was a in family 531 00:27:13,220 --> 00:27:17,800 extended family adoption where dad wasn't in the picture and mom became medically incapable 532 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,020 of caring for him further. 533 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:26,180 And so it was, it wasn't, you know, try with your wife for nine for a year and a half and 534 00:27:26,180 --> 00:27:27,360 then have nine months of warning. 535 00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:29,400 And it wasn't folks who have adopted. 536 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,780 No, it is often a very long process. 537 00:27:31,780 --> 00:27:34,580 It was, Oh shit. 538 00:27:34,580 --> 00:27:35,320 I've got a kid. 539 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:44,560 Um, and I remember the weekend before we transferred him over before he came to live with us, I was 540 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,540 practicing some weapon disarms with some people at the seminar. 541 00:27:48,540 --> 00:27:52,960 And then we're doing some gun disarms and every single one of them, you kind of, the 542 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:57,600 guns pointed out, you get to turn, you capture the gun and you pull past you down at about 543 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,160 hip level, which keeps me from getting shot. 544 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,480 But if there's a seven year old, he was seven at the time standing directly behind me, which 545 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,140 is where I'd probably want him to be standing. 546 00:28:06,140 --> 00:28:08,860 If there was trouble, it points the gun directly at him. 547 00:28:08,860 --> 00:28:11,760 I was like, hold on. 548 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,460 Wait just one damn minute here. 549 00:28:15,460 --> 00:28:20,840 And I realized and kind of thought about it, realized how little of the training I'd had 550 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,160 and the experiences that had had anything to do with protecting a child. 551 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:30,460 And then I kind of broadened that to, and that's just my crime prevention, self-defense 552 00:28:30,460 --> 00:28:30,760 stuff. 553 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,040 I was even dumber about fire prevention. 554 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:38,360 I had a first aid certification from back when I was a camp counselor when I was 19. 555 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:43,360 You know, when I went to re up my first aid stuff, they'd added AED since the last time 556 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,020 I'd gotten the card. 557 00:28:45,020 --> 00:28:45,360 Yeah. 558 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,560 And just from there, I realized how ignorant I was. 559 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:54,580 And then because I've had very good coaches, my immediate response to being ignorant is go 560 00:28:54,580 --> 00:28:57,800 find people who aren't and just ring them drive information. 561 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,620 And that's kind of how the project started. 562 00:29:00,620 --> 00:29:06,120 And, uh, and, uh, the podcast and the book idea and all that was my COVID seizure. 563 00:29:06,420 --> 00:29:06,680 Gotcha. 564 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:07,740 Yeah. 565 00:29:07,740 --> 00:29:08,620 Yeah. 566 00:29:08,620 --> 00:29:09,380 Yeah. 567 00:29:09,380 --> 00:29:09,420 Yeah. 568 00:29:09,420 --> 00:29:14,500 The, uh, I think about Andy, like our show began just before, just before COVID. 569 00:29:14,500 --> 00:29:20,100 And I, I think to myself, like, uh, how lucky we were to start it beforehand. 570 00:29:20,100 --> 00:29:26,120 Cause I'm, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not sure we would have, uh, yeah, I'm not sure we would 571 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,360 have, uh, reacted the same way, reacted the same way. 572 00:29:28,420 --> 00:29:33,500 But yeah, I think, you know, Jason, it's really, I think it's just a really, really cool thing 573 00:29:33,500 --> 00:29:38,200 that, uh, there's people out there in the world like you that are kind of taking me all 574 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:44,660 these things in and helping give some practical advice without being an alarmist. 575 00:29:44,660 --> 00:29:49,520 I mean, like you said, I mean, some of these scenarios, they are, they may or may not ever 576 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:50,520 happen to us. 577 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:55,620 We may or may not find ourselves in those situations, but we hope we never, we hope 578 00:29:55,620 --> 00:29:56,220 we never do. 579 00:29:56,220 --> 00:30:05,980 But, um, you know, in a world where prevention is, uh, well, whatever the saying is, what an 580 00:30:05,980 --> 00:30:07,880 ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. 581 00:30:07,980 --> 00:30:14,000 You know, um, these things are, these things are helpful to be, to not just, I mean, just 582 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,580 not be generally ignorant about, you know, and to, and to realize that, cause I think so 583 00:30:17,580 --> 00:30:24,160 many of the things that you're talking about are pretty simple preventative things that the 584 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:29,980 vast majority of us can, uh, can approach if we just give some brain power to it and, uh, 585 00:30:29,980 --> 00:30:32,600 you know, and, and, and think about it for a second. 586 00:30:32,980 --> 00:30:39,500 Um, and, and maybe even uncover some, uh, you know, some liabilities that we have, uh, 587 00:30:39,500 --> 00:30:45,500 you know, in, in areas that are also, uh, you know, more readily, uh, approachable and, 588 00:30:45,500 --> 00:30:55,960 um, you know, the, uh, I, I was talking with, oh gosh, mental, this came from a mental health 589 00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:01,060 professional that I was engaging with and really had the conversation about, you know, the people 590 00:31:01,060 --> 00:31:09,880 that are frequently the most traumatized by things are the naive, um, is it's naivety that 591 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:15,080 is, you know, that, oh, that probably won't happen or those things can't happen or, or, 592 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:21,500 or whatever that when it does catches them so off guard that they are, they're the most damaged 593 00:31:21,500 --> 00:31:24,400 by it, you know, physically, mentally, emotionally, all of that. 594 00:31:24,780 --> 00:31:28,640 So there's that, there's the, you know, this can't be happening. 595 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:34,040 There's the what's happening and there's the, how dare this happen? 596 00:31:35,380 --> 00:31:42,780 All three of which just slow down the time between the bad things happening and you developing 597 00:31:42,780 --> 00:31:43,960 an appropriate plan. 598 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:44,200 Yeah. 599 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:44,760 Yeah. 600 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:45,720 Yeah. 601 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:46,360 Yeah. 602 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,780 So thinking about it ahead of time, having a plan ahead of time, it's also really just an 603 00:31:50,780 --> 00:31:57,260 investment in your own, in your own wellbeing of, if I hear what you're saying correctly, 604 00:31:57,260 --> 00:32:04,040 you know, of just, uh, shortening our reaction time and also giving clarity to our reaction 605 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,480 and what we're going to do. 606 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:11,320 And that little bit of, uh, that little bit of insight, just, uh, it's of, of, of great 607 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:11,540 help. 608 00:32:11,540 --> 00:32:15,200 Obviously there's a ton of variables out in the world, the things that we have zero control 609 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,800 over, but the things that we do have control over, we should take seriously. 610 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,320 And, uh, that's a, that's a really, really great reminder. 611 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,600 So, yeah. 612 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,300 And as you say, this, the stuff we can do is fairly simple. 613 00:32:26,300 --> 00:32:27,740 It's scary, but it's not hard. 614 00:32:27,740 --> 00:32:31,060 You know, things, things like stocking your first aid kit. 615 00:32:31,060 --> 00:32:38,420 So that when you're, so when your idiot brother who's living in the house puts a broken mug in 616 00:32:38,420 --> 00:32:46,040 the trash bag and your idiot self drags that to the curb and gives themselves a spear wound 617 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:51,180 in the calf, you have Coban wrap and a trauma pad ready to hand. 618 00:32:51,180 --> 00:32:58,440 I'll tell you, Jason's example there was strikingly lifelike and, uh, seemingly, uh, parallel, parallel to reality. 619 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,480 Um, purely hypothetical, purely hypothetical. 620 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,880 It sounded totally. 621 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:04,640 I'm not that dumb. 622 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,760 Yeah. 623 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:09,920 But we do get caught out. 624 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:15,020 Um, uh, we got, we got a new car relatively recently and I was driving from Portland to 625 00:33:15,020 --> 00:33:19,940 Denver to do a seminar and I had a blowout on the side of the road in Idaho. 626 00:33:19,940 --> 00:33:25,100 So I pull over and, you know, it's a two lane highway in Idaho with trucks, blast and pass at 627 00:33:25,100 --> 00:33:29,480 85 and about, and a shoulder that's maybe a six inches wider than my car. 628 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,960 And that's when I realized I have no idea. 629 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:40,940 How to find the donut and the equipment in this car that I just bought a month ago. 630 00:33:40,940 --> 00:33:42,360 So I'm on the side of the road on YouTube. 631 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:42,360 Okay. 632 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,160 Best case scenario. 633 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:46,640 Yeah. 634 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,320 You know, you catch yourself out. 635 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:48,780 Yeah. 636 00:33:48,780 --> 00:33:53,120 And it's just, and having those, that systematic approach, the small things, the tips, the 637 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,800 list and all of that to keep you and your family safe. 638 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,600 You know, my kids, my youngest is 15. 639 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,660 He's got his permit before he's allowed to have his license. 640 00:34:01,660 --> 00:34:04,160 He's going to change the tire on the truck at least twice. 641 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:04,620 Yep. 642 00:34:04,620 --> 00:34:04,900 Yep. 643 00:34:04,900 --> 00:34:05,540 Yep. 644 00:34:05,540 --> 00:34:06,620 Yep. 645 00:34:06,620 --> 00:34:12,060 Those, those skills that we often, uh, we often forget about, but, uh, I know that was 646 00:34:12,060 --> 00:34:13,980 the requirement and that was a requirement for me. 647 00:34:13,980 --> 00:34:17,820 And, uh, you know, it's a simple things like that. 648 00:34:17,820 --> 00:34:19,440 So all great stuff. 649 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:20,620 That's a really, really great. 650 00:34:20,620 --> 00:34:25,280 Again, Jason, you can put that, uh, you can put that book back up right, right, right front 651 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:26,040 and center here again. 652 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,800 Uh, obviously safest family on the block. 653 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:38,680 101 tips, tricks, hacks, and habits to protect your family by esteemed author, Jason Brick. 654 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:39,500 Fantastic. 655 00:34:39,500 --> 00:34:39,840 Yeah. 656 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,920 We're going to, well, we'll obviously make sure that we have that all over at dudes and dads 657 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:48,240 dot com and the show notes, uh, links to the book, uh, for all of you to hop on it. 658 00:34:48,240 --> 00:34:50,220 What a great, you know what I'll say? 659 00:34:50,220 --> 00:34:54,540 You know, I'll say Indy both mother's day and then father's day coming up. 660 00:34:54,540 --> 00:34:55,380 Great gifts. 661 00:34:55,380 --> 00:34:56,520 Great gifts. 662 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:56,880 Yeah. 663 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:03,240 Great practical gifts for, uh, the people that, that love us the most, our moms and dads to 664 00:35:03,240 --> 00:35:07,440 have that as a little bit of a, of a manual, if you will. 665 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:08,080 Yes. 666 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:08,780 Ready to go. 667 00:35:08,780 --> 00:35:09,720 Absolutely. 668 00:35:09,720 --> 00:35:13,900 Well, thanks Jason for joining us, but Hey, before we go, we can't let you get by. 669 00:35:13,900 --> 00:35:16,340 Thank you. 670 00:35:16,340 --> 00:35:18,320 Without having the pop quiz. 671 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:23,700 So if you've never joined us, the pop quiz at a time that we just like to pepper Jason 672 00:35:23,700 --> 00:35:28,300 with questions for things that may or may not have to do with safety, but things that we 673 00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:30,640 think we just want to get to know him a little bit better. 674 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:31,100 There we go. 675 00:35:31,100 --> 00:35:33,460 So there we go outside of the safety realm. 676 00:35:33,460 --> 00:35:33,980 Yeah. 677 00:35:33,980 --> 00:35:34,800 Most likely. 678 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,260 So Joel, do you want to ask it first? 679 00:35:36,260 --> 00:35:36,640 I do. 680 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:41,000 I'm going to take actually, and I'm going to take a question out of your playbook, uh, because 681 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,980 I think it's appropriate for Jason, Jason currently, what is your favorite gadget? 682 00:35:44,980 --> 00:35:47,560 My favorite gadget. 683 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:48,280 Okay. 684 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,720 So I'm going to, I'm going to go back in the martial arts stuff. 685 00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:56,020 Just took a class on using a carabiner as a self-defense weapon. 686 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,460 And it was brutal. 687 00:35:58,460 --> 00:36:03,960 It's not like, um, you don't use it just like brass knuckles, but you slide it down to here 688 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,380 to Paul. 689 00:36:05,380 --> 00:36:09,200 Oh, and just a slap upside the head is now dental work. 690 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:09,800 Interesting. 691 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:10,260 Oh man. 692 00:36:10,260 --> 00:36:13,780 And let alone doing like joint locks and stuff, you know? 693 00:36:13,780 --> 00:36:14,440 Yeah. 694 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:15,200 You do a joint lock. 695 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:15,440 It hurts. 696 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,060 You do a joint lock with a carabiner grinding against your bones. 697 00:36:18,060 --> 00:36:20,000 It's absolute misery. 698 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:20,480 Wow. 699 00:36:20,620 --> 00:36:22,740 It was so cool for friends. 700 00:36:22,740 --> 00:36:23,320 I've friends. 701 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,280 I've got to say the carabiner around this myth that I've gotten, we've got to, we might 702 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,680 have to find a larger size, but, uh, I don't know if they make it, but I'm, I'm going to 703 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:32,640 now I'm, I'm curious. 704 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,300 We're going to, can I find a carabiner that will fit around my hand done? 705 00:36:36,300 --> 00:36:36,860 Yes, you can. 706 00:36:36,860 --> 00:36:37,220 Okay. 707 00:36:37,220 --> 00:36:37,800 Okay. 708 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,640 I did a lot of rock climbing in college and I can, they're out there. 709 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:42,100 Okay. 710 00:36:42,100 --> 00:36:42,720 Wonderful. 711 00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:43,380 Awesome. 712 00:36:43,700 --> 00:36:46,040 Jason, what is something that you want 713 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,040 to be... No, sorry. What is one thing that... 714 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,620 Something... Sorry. 715 00:36:49,620 --> 00:36:51,740 I can't read my own card today. 716 00:36:51,740 --> 00:36:54,000 What is something that you like that most people 717 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:54,840 don't like? 718 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,880 Oh, the movie Hudson 719 00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,940 Hawk. I don't know 720 00:36:59,940 --> 00:37:02,080 that I've seen that. It's an old 721 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,860 Bruce Willis movie where he's a cat burglary. 722 00:37:03,860 --> 00:37:06,220 He does it with Danny Aiello. Hudson Hawk, 723 00:37:06,220 --> 00:37:08,500 yes. Weird movie 724 00:37:08,500 --> 00:37:10,120 where the cat burglars 725 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,800 for precision timing, because remember, 726 00:37:12,060 --> 00:37:13,680 Bruce Willis had a brief 727 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,940 recording career there. 728 00:37:15,940 --> 00:37:18,240 So he and Danny Aiello, 729 00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:20,280 to get their pinpoint timing in their capers, 730 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,880 they choose a song and sing it. 731 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,760 And it turns into this weird... 732 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,160 Yeah, it's... Everybody 733 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,240 panned it. Everybody hates it. People make fun of me. 734 00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:30,360 But I love that movie. It makes me belly laugh 735 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:31,640 every single time. 736 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,280 Alright. Well, there you go. Now everybody 737 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:35,540 knows. That's fantastic. 738 00:37:35,540 --> 00:37:38,560 Jason, real personal question. 739 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,400 Are you a fan of Soup? 740 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,220 Soup? Yes. 741 00:37:43,220 --> 00:37:44,480 Although I like stews better. 742 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,020 Okay. Tell me your favorite, and then we'll go with that. 743 00:37:47,020 --> 00:37:48,880 Tell me about your favorite stew. 744 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,440 Mulligatani. 745 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,460 What in the world? 746 00:37:53,460 --> 00:37:54,080 Yeah, tell me about that. 747 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,820 You've been interested in something new. 748 00:37:55,820 --> 00:37:56,960 What's going on? 749 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,260 Mulligatani is what happened 750 00:37:59,260 --> 00:38:01,260 when Irish troops stationed 751 00:38:01,260 --> 00:38:03,240 in India missed stew. 752 00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:05,400 Because stew's not really a traditionally Irish dish. 753 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:06,800 So it is a 754 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,160 chicken stew 755 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,480 with lentils and curry. 756 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:11,660 Oh, okay. 757 00:38:11,660 --> 00:38:14,100 And when I make it, I blend the lentils. 758 00:38:14,100 --> 00:38:15,620 So it's this creamy, 759 00:38:15,620 --> 00:38:17,080 curry-tasting 760 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:18,720 chicken stew 761 00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:19,360 with celery 762 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:20,320 and onions. 763 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:21,920 And it's 764 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,160 amazeballs. 765 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,200 Andy, I feel like this might be 766 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:25,940 the first 767 00:38:25,940 --> 00:38:27,700 exciting culinary dish 768 00:38:27,700 --> 00:38:28,900 that's been introduced to us 769 00:38:28,900 --> 00:38:30,080 during 770 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,520 a pop quiz. 771 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,060 Now, I know that 772 00:38:34,060 --> 00:38:35,760 we were introduced to, 773 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:36,340 if you remember, 774 00:38:36,340 --> 00:38:38,420 Dudes and Dad's alumni, 775 00:38:38,420 --> 00:38:39,560 Sebastiano Rosso, 776 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:40,560 once told us about 777 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:41,480 Zuppa de Mare, 778 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:42,200 which is his 779 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:43,080 favorite 780 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,200 Sicilian 781 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,240 dish. 782 00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:46,460 But 783 00:38:46,460 --> 00:38:47,880 now we've gotten 784 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:48,920 culinary insight 785 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:49,840 even into the making 786 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,160 of one. 787 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,440 And we're going to look this up. 788 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:53,060 We're going to Google it. 789 00:38:53,060 --> 00:38:53,660 We're going to find out. 790 00:38:53,660 --> 00:38:54,720 We should make it on the podcast. 791 00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:55,540 There we go. 792 00:38:55,540 --> 00:38:56,140 That's it. 793 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,680 Dudes and Dad's 794 00:38:58,680 --> 00:38:59,800 Dudes and Dad's 795 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,380 Our Soup Edition. 796 00:39:02,380 --> 00:39:02,700 Great. 797 00:39:02,700 --> 00:39:03,500 Jason, tell me. 798 00:39:03,500 --> 00:39:04,580 I'll send you the recipe. 799 00:39:04,580 --> 00:39:05,380 It's done. 800 00:39:05,380 --> 00:39:06,120 All right. 801 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:06,520 Perfect. 802 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:07,060 Let's do it. 803 00:39:07,060 --> 00:39:08,880 Which living person 804 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:09,960 do you most admire? 805 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,700 Oh, 806 00:39:11,700 --> 00:39:13,680 I wish you'd asked me that 807 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:14,480 three months ago 808 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:15,080 because it would have been 809 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:15,520 my grandmother. 810 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:16,800 Oh, yeah. 811 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,480 Oh, grandma. 812 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:19,740 Oh, yeah. 813 00:39:19,740 --> 00:39:20,540 So there's a fellow 814 00:39:20,540 --> 00:39:21,820 named Dave McNeil 815 00:39:21,820 --> 00:39:23,680 who runs the Goju Shore 816 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:24,820 who ran the Goju Shore 817 00:39:24,820 --> 00:39:25,420 weapon system 818 00:39:25,420 --> 00:39:26,240 until he retired 819 00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:27,020 a couple years ago. 820 00:39:27,020 --> 00:39:27,880 And he's just 821 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,860 a deeply kind, 822 00:39:29,860 --> 00:39:31,280 deeply weird, 823 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:32,660 deeply funny guy. 824 00:39:32,660 --> 00:39:33,960 And, you know, 825 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,080 whenever I, you know, 826 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,280 I respect my father 827 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:37,040 very much as well. 828 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:37,880 But, you know, 829 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,960 when I come to a crossroads, 830 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,160 it's often what would David do? 831 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,300 Wonderful. 832 00:39:42,300 --> 00:39:43,520 Wonderful. 833 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,020 Joel, do you have a last question? 834 00:39:45,020 --> 00:39:46,400 My last question to Jason 835 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:47,100 is, 836 00:39:47,100 --> 00:39:50,000 Jason, if 837 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,600 there were, 838 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:52,360 oh, we're going to steal 839 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:52,960 another one from you 840 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:53,440 because I like this. 841 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:54,180 Because we're going to say 842 00:39:54,180 --> 00:39:54,920 on the food thing real quick. 843 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,160 Jason, if there was a 844 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,460 sandwich named after you, 845 00:39:57,460 --> 00:39:58,980 what would it, 846 00:39:58,980 --> 00:39:59,660 what would it be? 847 00:39:59,660 --> 00:40:00,380 What would, 848 00:40:00,380 --> 00:40:01,360 what would be on it? 849 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:02,000 What would be on it? 850 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:02,680 Is that what it is? 851 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:02,880 Yeah. 852 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:03,420 Yeah. 853 00:40:03,420 --> 00:40:04,860 If you like go to the deli, 854 00:40:04,860 --> 00:40:05,160 you're like, 855 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:06,400 hey, I'll have a, 856 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:07,600 have an order of the Jason Brick. 857 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:08,180 What, 858 00:40:08,180 --> 00:40:09,620 what is that sandwich exactly? 859 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:11,440 so it's going to have a, 860 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:12,260 so it's going to have a hatched green chili. 861 00:40:12,260 --> 00:40:12,980 It's from New Mexico. 862 00:40:12,980 --> 00:40:15,460 And if you do that, 863 00:40:15,460 --> 00:40:16,240 then it's going to need 864 00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:18,200 probably turkey or chicken 865 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,340 and then a white cheese 866 00:40:21,340 --> 00:40:22,400 like provolone 867 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,100 or maybe mozzarella. 868 00:40:24,100 --> 00:40:24,880 Okay. 869 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,400 Maybe Gruyere, 870 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:27,360 but maybe that might not, 871 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:28,960 that might not work too well. 872 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:29,480 Throw some, 873 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:30,920 throw some lettuce 874 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:31,840 and a couple of tomatoes, 875 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:32,660 a little salt and pepper 876 00:40:32,660 --> 00:40:33,420 on top of that, 877 00:40:33,420 --> 00:40:34,280 a little bit of mayo. 878 00:40:34,820 --> 00:40:36,020 And then you dip it 879 00:40:36,020 --> 00:40:36,960 in your Malkatonic. 880 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,600 It's a callback. 881 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:40,480 That's a callback. 882 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:41,580 Within. 883 00:40:41,580 --> 00:40:42,960 Yeah. 884 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:43,500 Love it. 885 00:40:43,500 --> 00:40:44,480 All sorts of new things 886 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:45,460 in the podcast today. 887 00:40:45,460 --> 00:40:45,900 Jason, 888 00:40:45,900 --> 00:40:46,600 you've just unlocked 889 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:47,440 some new worlds for us. 890 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:48,220 Thank you so much. 891 00:40:48,220 --> 00:40:48,620 Awesome. 892 00:40:48,620 --> 00:40:49,060 Awesome. 893 00:40:49,060 --> 00:40:49,360 Awesome. 894 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:50,160 Well, 895 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:50,680 Hey everybody, 896 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:51,420 Jason, 897 00:40:51,420 --> 00:40:52,540 thanks for being with us. 898 00:40:52,540 --> 00:40:53,680 We will be, 899 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,580 as we said in the show notes, 900 00:40:55,580 --> 00:40:56,100 we'll get the, 901 00:40:56,100 --> 00:40:56,820 the book out, 902 00:40:56,820 --> 00:40:57,980 make sure people can find it 903 00:40:57,980 --> 00:40:58,840 and on the socials. 904 00:40:58,840 --> 00:40:59,540 Thanks for joining us. 905 00:40:59,540 --> 00:41:00,340 Appreciate it so much, 906 00:41:00,340 --> 00:41:00,760 my friend, 907 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,680 all the way from the West coast. 908 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:03,760 Andy. 909 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:04,160 Hey, 910 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:04,720 it's been real. 911 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:05,300 It's been fun. 912 00:41:05,300 --> 00:41:06,920 Remind people where they can call us. 913 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:07,220 We want to, 914 00:41:07,220 --> 00:41:08,520 let's get another voicemail in. 915 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:08,860 Okay. 916 00:41:08,860 --> 00:41:09,340 Can we do it? 917 00:41:09,340 --> 00:41:10,880 We would love to have another voicemail. 918 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:11,440 Five, 919 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:11,840 seven, 920 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:12,360 four, 921 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:13,040 five, 922 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:13,460 zero, 923 00:41:13,460 --> 00:41:13,880 one, 924 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:14,500 four, 925 00:41:14,500 --> 00:41:14,900 four, 926 00:41:14,900 --> 00:41:15,360 six, 927 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:15,860 seven, 928 00:41:15,860 --> 00:41:16,320 again, 929 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:16,700 five, 930 00:41:16,700 --> 00:41:17,020 seven, 931 00:41:17,020 --> 00:41:17,460 four, 932 00:41:17,460 --> 00:41:17,980 five, 933 00:41:17,980 --> 00:41:18,360 zero, 934 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:18,800 one, 935 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:19,360 four, 936 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:19,680 four, 937 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:20,180 six, 938 00:41:20,180 --> 00:41:20,640 seven, 939 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,440 or reach out to us on the Gmails 940 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,160 at dudes and dads podcast at gmail.com. 941 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:26,760 You can leave us all kinds of ideas, 942 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:27,360 reviews, 943 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:27,840 all that. 944 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:28,300 Hey, 945 00:41:28,300 --> 00:41:28,740 like, 946 00:41:28,740 --> 00:41:29,240 subscribe, 947 00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:29,920 follow, 948 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:30,880 high five, 949 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:31,740 tell your friends, 950 00:41:31,780 --> 00:41:34,340 tell your friends about the dudes and dads podcast. 951 00:41:34,340 --> 00:41:39,360 Caring is sharing and sharing is caring as we say sometimes. 952 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,780 And go get the book for your mom and dad or people in the life that you care for. 953 00:41:43,780 --> 00:41:44,020 Yeah, 954 00:41:44,020 --> 00:41:44,200 yeah, 955 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:44,740 yeah, 956 00:41:44,740 --> 00:41:45,400 exactly. 957 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:46,220 If you don't get them, 958 00:41:46,220 --> 00:41:46,560 this book, 959 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:47,880 do you actually care about them? 960 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,040 That's what you should be asking. 961 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,020 Hey, 962 00:41:50,020 --> 00:41:50,340 everybody, 963 00:41:50,340 --> 00:41:50,780 we, 964 00:41:50,780 --> 00:41:51,560 we, 965 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,360 we thank you so much for hanging out with us for another episode. 966 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:55,460 And until next time, 967 00:41:55,460 --> 00:41:57,260 we wish you grace and peace. 968 00:41:57,260 --> 00:41:57,760 you 969 00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:58,260 you 970 00:41:58,260 --> 00:41:58,760 you 971 00:41:58,760 --> 00:41:59,260 you 972 00:41:59,260 --> 00:41:59,760 you 973 00:41:59,880 --> 00:41:59,900 Okay. 974 00:41:59,900 --> 00:42:00,400 you 975 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:00,900 you 976 00:42:00,900 --> 00:42:01,400 you 977 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,460 you