1 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:14,220 Welcome, everybody, to Podcast Answers, the show where I help you start and grow your 2 00:00:14,300 --> 00:00:19,340 podcast, answering any podcasting questions along the way. That's right. Today we are 3 00:00:19,460 --> 00:00:25,359 talking about accessibility. What's that mean for your podcast? What's that mean? How do 4 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:31,040 you create an accessible podcast for yourself. 5 00:00:32,500 --> 00:00:34,340 But first, a few things to cover. 6 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:42,000 If you want to join us in our live Zoom backstage, you can go to podcastanswers.com/backstage. 7 00:00:42,580 --> 00:00:49,020 That'll get you into our backstage and that will allow you to hang out with me, ask questions, 8 00:00:49,260 --> 00:00:51,220 potentially even be on screen. 9 00:00:52,020 --> 00:00:57,220 So if you want to do that again, that's podcast answers.com/backstage. 10 00:00:57,700 --> 00:00:58,860 And we would love to have you. 11 00:01:00,219 --> 00:01:06,940 But first, let's talk a little bit today about podcast accessibility. 12 00:01:07,180 --> 00:01:10,640 So what are some ways to make your podcast more accessible? 13 00:01:12,420 --> 00:01:16,500 First is providing transcripts for every episode. 14 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,840 So you can easily do that a couple different ways. 15 00:01:21,380 --> 00:01:24,440 I use a software called Mac Whisper, 16 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,080 which allows me to generate 17 00:01:26,300 --> 00:01:28,340 after I've created my podcast episode. 18 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,380 I take Mac Whisper, I run my audio through it, 19 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,460 and what it does is it creates a transcript file, 20 00:01:35,780 --> 00:01:39,200 a SRT or VTT transcript file, 21 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,680 which you can then, on most new podcast apps, 22 00:01:43,020 --> 00:01:45,740 you can, or most new podcast hosts, 23 00:01:45,860 --> 00:01:47,600 you can attach that to that, 24 00:01:48,020 --> 00:01:51,360 and it will allow you to create a transcript 25 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:59,180 in your RSS feed that allows the podcast apps to play that file as you're playing it, as 26 00:01:59,220 --> 00:02:02,380 you're playing your episode so that that way people can read along with your episode. 27 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:07,920 Super handy for those, especially that may be hard of hearing or as we've seen today, 28 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:14,560 a lot of our new generation has the captions on when we are when they were talking, like 29 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,320 when we're watching TV, they have captions on. 30 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:21,960 So you can do this for that so that they can make it easier to hear easier to see easier 31 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,220 to be with that. 32 00:02:25,700 --> 00:02:30,380 Now the other thing that you can do is is some podcast hosts will generate that that 33 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:36,420 SRT or VTT file for you, meaning that you upload your file and they will generate the 34 00:02:36,420 --> 00:02:37,600 file put it in your feed. 35 00:02:38,100 --> 00:02:43,879 Now this may be a cost for some some things I'm I host on captivate and if I allow captivate 36 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:49,220 to create my my transcript, then it does cost me a little bit for them to do that. 37 00:02:50,100 --> 00:02:53,400 But it allows that they will generate that if you don't have 38 00:02:54,500 --> 00:02:57,820 if you do not have that ability to generate that on your own. 39 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,880 Yes. So it is a pretty awesome software 40 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:04,960 because it does allow you. 41 00:03:05,940 --> 00:03:08,680 MacWhisper is a pretty allow awesome software. 42 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,780 It does allow you to create that right locally on your machine. 43 00:03:11,140 --> 00:03:14,700 And it allows you to give get all of the files that you need for 44 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,040 for your podcast host. 45 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,960 Now, the great thing is, if you don't even do this, some 46 00:03:20,620 --> 00:03:23,580 some podcast players will generate one for you. 47 00:03:24,140 --> 00:03:26,380 Apple Podcasts recently has started 48 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,260 creating transcripts for you if you do not provide one in your podcast feed. 49 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,240 So the great thing about that is that allows you to 50 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:37,220 you don't have to do anything. 51 00:03:37,540 --> 00:03:40,260 You can just go upload your file. 52 00:03:40,660 --> 00:03:44,520 And then once Apple podcast gets that, they will create a transcript for you 53 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,940 for those watching in in Apple or listening in Apple podcast. 54 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:54,240 So that that's one way that you can make your podcast more accessible. 55 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:59,420 The other thing is to use clear audio and speak at a moderate pace. 56 00:04:01,140 --> 00:04:03,440 So using a good mic is going to help. 57 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,220 You don't have to get a mic like I have. 58 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:12,760 I have an SM7B that's a but a $400 mic, but that will that mic is going to create amazing 59 00:04:12,940 --> 00:04:18,340 audio and allow you to to have amazing audio going forward. 60 00:04:18,980 --> 00:04:22,300 Now you don't have to have an amazing mic to do that. 61 00:04:22,300 --> 00:04:27,780 You can get one for $100 or even less, but that will make your audio sound really good. 62 00:04:28,280 --> 00:04:32,540 Again, an audio that's not listenable. 63 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,040 People are going to turn off right away. 64 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:39,840 It's not going to be able to hear because a lot of sometimes people have hearing problems. 65 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:44,960 And if you have a good mic, that's going to help them get that audio in there in your 66 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:49,280 ear in their ear and be able to understand you, you better. 67 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,360 The next thing that I'm going to say is speak slow. 68 00:04:54,660 --> 00:04:56,000 So speak at a moderate pace. 69 00:04:57,300 --> 00:05:00,280 You're going to have to speak slower than you think you need to. 70 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:07,600 going to sound painful probably to yourself. I know for me when I'm not behind the mic 71 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:13,900 right here, I speak at an incredibly fast pace. And some may even say that even on the 72 00:05:13,940 --> 00:05:20,820 mic that I do that, that I, I speak really fast and it's hard to understand me. I always 73 00:05:20,860 --> 00:05:25,599 joked growing up that my sister and I spoke so fast to each other and we could understand 74 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,780 each other, but no one else could understand us because we spoke so fast. 75 00:05:29,460 --> 00:05:33,040 But. In a podcast, you don't want to do that, 76 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,720 you want to speak slower than you think that you need to, 77 00:05:35,840 --> 00:05:39,300 it's going to sound really slow to you because you hear yourself 78 00:05:39,420 --> 00:05:42,840 when you when you're hearing yourself, you understand what you're saying 79 00:05:43,420 --> 00:05:46,060 because you know the intent behind your topics, 80 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,840 you know the intent behind what your speech and so. 81 00:05:50,180 --> 00:05:53,340 But the other people that are listening to you don't know what you're saying, 82 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,840 You you know that you know what you're saying so you can say it faster. 83 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,180 But those listening to you don't know what you're going to be saying. 84 00:06:01,280 --> 00:06:04,020 And so it takes some time to hear you. 85 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:08,320 And when you speak fast, a lot of times we jumble up our words. 86 00:06:08,840 --> 00:06:11,340 We smush them together, and it's really hard to understand. 87 00:06:11,860 --> 00:06:15,780 Now, that gets even worse for somebody who's not a native speaker 88 00:06:15,940 --> 00:06:17,480 of the language that you're speaking in. 89 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:22,499 I'm doing this podcast in English, but if I had a French speaker 90 00:06:22,500 --> 00:06:26,280 that doesn't know English very well or a Spanish speaker that doesn't know English very well. 91 00:06:27,060 --> 00:06:27,940 Now think about that. 92 00:06:28,020 --> 00:06:30,020 They're trying to translate that in your head, their head. 93 00:06:30,840 --> 00:06:32,300 They're trying to listen to you speak. 94 00:06:33,140 --> 00:06:37,180 And it gets really hard to do that because if you're speaking so fast, they can't understand 95 00:06:37,180 --> 00:06:37,560 what you're saying. 96 00:06:39,060 --> 00:06:43,900 They're going to have trouble trying to translate what you're saying in their head. 97 00:06:44,100 --> 00:06:51,240 So speak a lot slower than you think that you actually need to to get your job done. 98 00:06:51,980 --> 00:07:02,980 Now, the next thing that I would say is when you are talking and you're describing something 99 00:07:03,260 --> 00:07:09,000 because now, especially if we're doing video, if we're doing a video show, like I have this 100 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:16,280 on on YouTube as well as an audio podcast, I may say something like, hey, this is my 101 00:07:16,380 --> 00:07:16,680 phone. 102 00:07:18,090 --> 00:07:19,200 This is an awesome phone. 103 00:07:20,300 --> 00:07:23,980 Well, I just held up my phone, but you don't know that if you're just listening in audio. 104 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,660 So I need to describe what I'm saying. 105 00:07:27,340 --> 00:07:28,180 This is my phone. 106 00:07:28,780 --> 00:07:30,840 It's an iPhone 16 on the back of it. 107 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,580 It has a clear case and on the back of it as a QR code. 108 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:36,480 And it is an amazing phone. 109 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:37,020 I love it. 110 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,120 Describe what you're saying. 111 00:07:41,500 --> 00:07:42,420 Describe what you're seeing. 112 00:07:42,660 --> 00:07:47,619 Describe, describe, describe it because your audio only listeners are not going to have 113 00:07:47,620 --> 00:07:49,840 any idea what you're actually talking about. 114 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,680 The next thing I want to say to you, and this isn't necessarily for. 115 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,940 Making it accessible, exactly, 116 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,780 but depending on what your show is about, you may need to include content 117 00:08:03,980 --> 00:08:06,120 warnings for sensitive topics. 118 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:07,740 Do this in a pre-roll. 119 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,980 I've recently done an episode, not on this show, but on a different one 120 00:08:11,100 --> 00:08:14,020 where normally that show is going to be family friendly. 121 00:08:15,260 --> 00:08:17,360 Normally we're talking to families. 122 00:08:17,460 --> 00:08:19,300 I know people listen in the car with their kids. 123 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,460 And our guests used a couple of some language 124 00:08:23,580 --> 00:08:26,640 that wasn't necessarily suitable for all audiences. 125 00:08:28,620 --> 00:08:30,840 And so what I did is after the interview, 126 00:08:31,370 --> 00:08:35,620 I went ahead and recorded a pre-roll that said, essentially, Hey, I know that you 127 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,400 people may normally listen to this in the car with their youngins. 128 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,280 And just wanted to let you know, this interview does contain some. 129 00:08:44,660 --> 00:08:48,160 some language, or if I was talking about a sensitive topic 130 00:08:48,340 --> 00:08:52,940 that I may not want my kids to hear, I want to include that in a pre-roll. 131 00:08:54,100 --> 00:08:57,000 Now, another thing that you can do is. 132 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:03,060 Offer multiple audio formats, this is going to become accessible for people, 133 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,060 you have to think about this, your audio, if you're recording in an MP3 134 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:12,040 and you're, let's say, doing it at stereo 128 K. 135 00:09:12,700 --> 00:09:15,760 That's not very, very big in today's standards, right? 136 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,500 I mean, it's it's about a mega minute or something. 137 00:09:20,680 --> 00:09:23,840 But what happens to those people who are in third world countries 138 00:09:23,940 --> 00:09:25,680 or in places that don't actually 139 00:09:26,970 --> 00:09:28,340 they can't get the data that you can? 140 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:32,820 There's a lot of places that can't get data like we can here in the US 141 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,340 and in other parts of the world. 142 00:09:35,180 --> 00:09:37,940 So you think about creating a lower quality format, 143 00:09:38,210 --> 00:09:41,139 maybe something that's mono in 144 00:09:41,140 --> 00:09:43,780 96 K or even less. 145 00:09:45,019 --> 00:09:47,340 Bitrate, it's going to be a lot smaller file. 146 00:09:47,540 --> 00:09:48,640 You can do this a couple of different ways. 147 00:09:48,700 --> 00:09:52,840 You can use the alternative enclosure with a new podcasting to 2.0 standards, 148 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,560 which allows you to say, hey, this is my normal enclosure, 149 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,520 but this is a lower bitrate one or this is a video one 150 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,420 that's not necessarily used in a lot of the podcasting apps yet. 151 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,940 But the other thing you can do is create separate feeds for this. 152 00:10:05,980 --> 00:10:07,240 So let's say you have 153 00:10:08,739 --> 00:10:10,820 a video feed in an audio feed. 154 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:15,740 for people who just want to listen to your audio or even a low bitrate feed. 155 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,160 Create a separate podcast RSS feed. 156 00:10:20,380 --> 00:10:22,500 Now, the other thing you want to do is ensure that your website 157 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,960 and podcast platform are screen reader friendly. 158 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:28,420 There's a couple of ways you can do this, 159 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,220 but you want to make sure that screen reader friendly 160 00:10:30,380 --> 00:10:33,020 with all of your alt tags on your pictures and things like that. 161 00:10:33,100 --> 00:10:36,520 That way, people that are using screen readers can understand 162 00:10:36,560 --> 00:10:40,560 what they're seeing on on your website and things like that. 163 00:10:40,560 --> 00:10:43,060 because again, I do recommend that you have a website. 164 00:10:44,460 --> 00:10:48,240 Now, again, the last thing I would say is consider adding captions 165 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:49,500 if you have a video version. 166 00:10:50,020 --> 00:10:53,180 Now, traditional actual video podcasts in the RSS. 167 00:10:54,620 --> 00:10:57,000 You should probably bake in your captions for that. 168 00:10:57,060 --> 00:10:59,820 And what that I mean is you when you're doing your video 169 00:10:59,960 --> 00:11:02,620 editing, generate captions and they're on the video. 170 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,380 This way, people watching your video can have captions. 171 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:08,440 Now, again, that's not. 172 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,360 Super relevant in today's day and time, 173 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,880 because a lot of people who are doing video shows are not using 174 00:11:17,020 --> 00:11:20,620 video files in their RSS, they're actually just using them on YouTube. 175 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:25,240 So if you're using YouTube, great, because YouTube will generate captions for you 176 00:11:25,700 --> 00:11:27,080 if your video is hosted there. 177 00:11:27,580 --> 00:11:31,100 So these are just a few things that you can do to make your podcast 178 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,260 a little bit more accessible to people. 179 00:11:33,740 --> 00:11:41,760 I would do just encourage you to go out and make awesome content that's accessible for 180 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:42,200 everybody. 181 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:49,380 And if you have any questions, if you feel free to contact me at podcast answers dot 182 00:11:49,560 --> 00:11:51,000 com slash contact. 183 00:11:51,700 --> 00:11:56,300 If you want to start your show and need help doing this, if you've got any value out of 184 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:00,020 this show, I would encourage you to give that value back. 185 00:12:00,460 --> 00:12:08,640 You can do that by going to podcastanswers.com/buymeacoffee and you can just show me your appreciation 186 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,880 and help me out a little bit there. 187 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:17,660 So with that, guys, have a great week and keep podcasting!