1 00:00:10,870 --> 00:00:13,860 Should we always be growing our business? 2 00:00:13,860 --> 00:00:16,330 Does our business constantly have to be growing? 3 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,390 Does everything have to keep getting better, and bigger, and faster? 4 00:00:19,870 --> 00:00:23,680 I don't know. I'm excited to dive into this topic with you today on On Your Terms. 5 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:25,330 Welcome to On Your Terms. 6 00:00:25,330 --> 00:00:30,120 If you're new here, I'm your host, Sam Vander Wielen, and I'm really excited to dive in today's topic. 7 00:00:30,130 --> 00:00:38,960 It's been something on my heart and mind lately, and I think it'll be just really cool to chat with you about it, and I can't wait to hear what you think about this week's episode. 8 00:00:38,980 --> 00:00:48,910 So, you're listening to this episode at the end of February, which means I just got done my big promo of The Ultimate Bundle, and I had my live workshop, and I hope 9 00:00:49,210 --> 00:00:53,970 that you were able to come if you hadn't been to it already and that you got something out of it. 10 00:00:53,980 --> 00:01:03,270 It was a lot of fun for me to do, and I just love doing these live workshops, and getting to interact and to meet new people, and welcome so many new people into the Bundle. 11 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:12,910 I'm actually going to host a podcast episode for you soon about like a little debrief breakdown of the promo and kind of show you the behind the scenes of what it's like to run 12 00:01:13,180 --> 00:01:15,280 a multi-six-figure promo and stuff like this. 13 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,860 So, yeah, you have that to look forward to. 14 00:01:17,860 --> 00:01:25,440 So, until then, I wanted to read to you the review of the week from Coach Courtney, who said, "I'm so excited that Sam started a podcast. 15 00:01:25,450 --> 00:01:30,000 Her knowledge of all things legal and building a business has been so helpful for me. 16 00:01:30,010 --> 00:01:36,410 The legal side of things is never something that I thought about when first starting a business, and I'm so grateful to have Sam as a resource for that. 17 00:01:36,430 --> 00:01:39,160 I can't wait to learn more for her through her podcast." 18 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,280 So, thank you so much, Coach Courtney. 19 00:01:41,290 --> 00:01:51,190 And if you want to enter to win a 25-dollar Starbucks gift card from me, all you have to do is leave a review of my show, On Your Terms, on Apple Podcasts, and 20 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:56,470 we announce a new winner every month on air and across social media, and you might even get a shoutout. 21 00:01:56,470 --> 00:02:00,070 So, head on over to Apple Podcasts and leave a review for the show. 22 00:02:00,610 --> 00:02:10,210 So, let's get into the meat and potatoes, as they say in Philadelphia, this episode of whether or not we're supposed to constantly be growing our business, whether 23 00:02:10,660 --> 00:02:14,680 it's not normal unless our business is growing, growing, growing all the time. 24 00:02:15,220 --> 00:02:25,000 I think that in the online business industry, unlike other industries that seem to have already realized this, for some reason, we think that we're supposed to constantly be 25 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:34,810 growing, like our business is supposed to be getting bigger and better, or there's something wrong with us, or with the business, or yeah, I think we really like internalize it being about us, right? 26 00:02:34,930 --> 00:02:36,220 Like people must not want us. 27 00:02:36,220 --> 00:02:38,950 They don't like our product. They don't like us, our voice, our look. 28 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:49,120 And whether it's like we focus on the revenue side of things or the vanity metrics of like, "My Instagram is not growing, my podcast listenership is not growing, my revenue 29 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:56,080 numbers aren't going, my core sales aren't growing", we think that it's always supposed to be better than the last, right? 30 00:02:56,230 --> 00:02:57,640 And it's not normal. 31 00:02:57,640 --> 00:02:58,750 It's not normal. 32 00:02:58,780 --> 00:03:00,940 Business ebbs and flows, right? 33 00:03:00,940 --> 00:03:08,950 There is no business principle that tells you that every single month, your revenue should be outperforming the previous months or even the previous year, right? 34 00:03:09,190 --> 00:03:14,530 Like in February of this year, you didn't do as great as February last year, it might be because you're doing things differently, right? 35 00:03:14,530 --> 00:03:18,520 This might be a month where you have your head down more and you're preparing to do something for next month. 36 00:03:18,550 --> 00:03:23,890 If I went back and looked at my books, like last January was a multi-six-figure month, because I ran a promo. 37 00:03:23,920 --> 00:03:29,150 The bulk of the promo was in January last year, whereas the bulk of the promo this year was in February. 38 00:03:29,170 --> 00:03:38,900 So, you can't always just look at these things in a vacuum, because you're going to come up with stories that aren't true, that are going to negatively affect you as an entrepreneur, right? 39 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:48,910 So, not to mention the fact that it's just not normal to be constantly growing, to never have seasons of like, I don't know, I call them like gathering seasons, like they were like 40 00:03:48,910 --> 00:03:56,270 those seasons where you kind of are hunkering down, you might be preparing something big that's next, but you haven't quite gotten there yet. 41 00:03:56,270 --> 00:04:05,950 And it's all like an investment over time in your business, like those times in your business that you're hunkering down now, and you're preparing for something, you're building out a 42 00:04:05,950 --> 00:04:15,880 course, you're interviewing clients, you're doing something, you're creating some product, that is going to lead to maybe future growth or additional revenue , but that might be 43 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,550 why your business isn't growing month over month right now. 44 00:04:18,550 --> 00:04:21,190 It all makes sense when we think about it, right? 45 00:04:21,610 --> 00:04:31,530 All of that pressure is very unfairly making you sick, and tired, and feeling defeated, and less than, and burnt out, 46 00:04:31,530 --> 00:04:40,360 and it just doesn't need to, because it's not based on actual like realistic principle of business, right? 47 00:04:40,840 --> 00:04:42,790 Businesses ebb and flow. 48 00:04:43,180 --> 00:04:51,990 So, when my dad got sick back in 2018, and remember, as you're listening to this in 2022, he was given 11 months to live, max. 49 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,100 They said two weeks if he didn't take the treatment. 50 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,450 So, he got sick at the very end of 2018. 51 00:04:58,810 --> 00:05:08,390 I went from being somebody who was constantly focused on growing her business, and putting my face on Instagram every day, and hosting Facebook Lives at that time, 52 00:05:08,750 --> 00:05:18,350 and emailing my list, and like doing all the things, all the things, I was right there in it with you until I had this like massive life bomb 53 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,620 out of nowhere dropped on my life, right? 54 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:30,320 And it took me months of like just—I mean, this business and growing this business was like the last thing. 55 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:37,600 And my business is a little different in the sense that I sell digital products , so there were still sales happening, because it doesn't need me. 56 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:45,790 Since I'm not a coach, it's like I don't need to be on the phone with people and stuff, so things were still being sold, but things definitely slowed down, I remembered. 57 00:05:45,790 --> 00:05:52,400 And I took, I would say, a solid three, four months, where I was really in the thick of it with my dad. 58 00:05:52,400 --> 00:06:02,330 I was like helping him to get started with treatment and some of the stuff that came along with that, like side effects and things, and then navigating like all of the 59 00:06:02,330 --> 00:06:04,160 health—I had to get him health insurance. 60 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,870 And, oh, my gosh, it was just so much, like so much administrative stuff. 61 00:06:07,870 --> 00:06:09,590 And I went to every appointment with him. 62 00:06:09,590 --> 00:06:19,370 And my focus, really, during that time was like helping him, then when I wasn't helping him, figuring out how to process what was happening myself, and it was so much and so overwhelming. 63 00:06:19,820 --> 00:06:29,680 And once things stabilized with my dad, and we kind of got in a rhythm, and like he had chemo every three weeks, and we were like, "Okay, this is like new normal", I wanted to get back to business. 64 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,680 Now, I didn't necessarily want to grow the business, but I wanted to get back into it. 65 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,360 Like I missed it, right? And I missed writing, and I missed sharing and creating. 66 00:06:35,900 --> 00:06:43,110 And so, I started to work on it, and eventually, I was ready to be like, okay, I'm going to grow this thing, right? 67 00:06:43,130 --> 00:06:50,300 And I knew that there was something like on my heart at that time, there was like a promotion I wanted to do, and I went with it, and it helped to grow my business. 68 00:06:50,870 --> 00:07:00,620 But I have gone through lots of different times, not just when my dad got sick, but lots of different times when growing my business wasn't necessarily my focus or my priority. 69 00:07:00,860 --> 00:07:03,110 In fact, didn't care at all about it, right? 70 00:07:03,140 --> 00:07:12,650 And you might relate, especially after the last two years, there have probably been a lot of things in your life that have made you be like, "Growing my business isn't one of them", like that's not the only thing in 71 00:07:12,650 --> 00:07:13,940 life. 72 00:07:13,940 --> 00:07:23,840 But it can feel, sometimes, when you're going through those phases by yourself, because you run your business by yourself, I assume, it can feel, sometimes, like you're kind of 73 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:28,450 sitting on the sidelines while like everybody else is playing the game, and it sucks, right? 74 00:07:28,460 --> 00:07:29,960 It's like big time FOMO. 75 00:07:30,410 --> 00:07:35,690 And I think that there are a couple of things that are at play here. 76 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:44,570 One is this idea that we are constantly being served this message that like growth, overgrowth, overgrowth, overgrowth, like constant growth is normal, right? 77 00:07:45,140 --> 00:07:55,040 But we're also getting served this message that growth is the focus, and I'm not trying to get like too deep or philosophical here, but I just think about this all 78 00:07:55,040 --> 00:08:00,770 the time when I'm like, what if it's not always about the money? 79 00:08:01,130 --> 00:08:03,740 Right? What if it's not always about more sales? 80 00:08:03,740 --> 00:08:08,420 What if it's not always about more, insert whatever here? 81 00:08:08,420 --> 00:08:12,980 Instagram followers, podcast downloads, YouTube subscribers. 82 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,830 Life is not about that stuff. 83 00:08:15,860 --> 00:08:25,740 I know you know that, but we, sometimes, need those reminders, because it's like we're in this world on Instagram, and Facebook, and whatever, 84 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:35,630 Tiktok, I don't know where else everybody hangs out, that it feels a little brainwashy, sometimes, where you kind of have to remind yourself like that this is not 85 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,850 the only reality in the world, right? 86 00:08:38,870 --> 00:08:48,110 And there are a lot of bigger things going on in the world than like Instagram followers, and YouTube subscribers, and revenue, and course sales, and like all those things, right? 87 00:08:48,380 --> 00:08:58,250 So, I just feel like I never really heard other people talking about like other goals or that it was okay to like, it doesn't make you a bad business owner 88 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:05,450 , it doesn't make you a bad person if like you're not constantly like, "In quarter two, I'm going to hit more, and in quarter three, I'm going to double my revenue". 89 00:09:05,870 --> 00:09:06,990 It's okay. 90 00:09:06,990 --> 00:09:10,160 It's okay. That doesn't mean you're a bad entrepreneur. 91 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,910 It doesn't mean you're a bad entrepreneur if you never reach that. 92 00:09:12,910 --> 00:09:18,610 It doesn't mean you're a bad entrepreneur if it's just like, right now, I don't want to do—like I'm in a season of life. 93 00:09:18,620 --> 00:09:20,300 Maybe you just had a baby. 94 00:09:20,300 --> 00:09:21,650 Maybe you just got married. 95 00:09:21,650 --> 00:09:22,850 Maybe you just moved. 96 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:24,380 Maybe a parent is ill. 97 00:09:24,410 --> 00:09:28,160 Maybe you're going through a worldwide freaking pandemic for like two years, right? 98 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:33,680 It's okay if this is not always the priority in your life. 99 00:09:33,980 --> 00:09:42,560 And if I'm the only voice that you hear telling you that that's okay, then like that's great, I hope there's somebody else that is telling you this, too, and that 100 00:09:43,790 --> 00:09:47,210 money is not always the thing to be focused on. 101 00:09:47,210 --> 00:09:49,010 Money is not going to fix everything. 102 00:09:49,190 --> 00:09:59,180 When my dad was really sick, like there wasn't enough money that could have been going on coming my way that would have made this any easier to navigate. 103 00:10:03,740 --> 00:10:08,340 Have you ever felt lost about where to begin with the legal side of protecting your online business? 104 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,900 Some people say you can just wing it at the beginning and get officially set up later. 105 00:10:12,530 --> 00:10:14,530 Not a good idea, by the way. 106 00:10:14,530 --> 00:10:24,230 Whether you're afraid to even start working with clients because you don't want to do something wrong legally, and then get in trouble, or your business is growing and you sort of forgot to take care of the legal 107 00:10:24,230 --> 00:10:26,030 pieces, I've got you. 108 00:10:26,060 --> 00:10:35,840 I don't want you to live in fear of the internet police coming after you and your business, but you do have to do certain things and get certain things in place in order to legally and safely run your business 109 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:42,950 online. As much as it just feels like an unregulated Wild Wild West online, that is very much not the case. 110 00:10:42,950 --> 00:10:52,760 As an attorney turned entrepreneur and former corporate litigator, I can assure you that there are rules, there are real steps that everybody who runs or starts an online business needs to 111 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,340 take. 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Like it's just money. 139 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:35,570 I just didn't need, like I'm not in it just to see how much money can I generate or I'm not in it just to be like I just have to generate 140 00:13:35,570 --> 00:13:36,590 more. Why? 141 00:13:36,630 --> 00:13:40,250 Oh, I just need more, because I'm constantly supposed to be growing, right? 142 00:13:40,550 --> 00:13:48,980 And it was like, I think the first quarter of last year, I had already well outpaced the prior year, the entire year, right? 143 00:13:48,980 --> 00:13:58,790 By mid-year, I was like six times over, and it was just like, I want to take —isn't the point of all of this that this business is supposed to give me time, space, and 144 00:13:58,790 --> 00:14:03,800 freedom? And yes, of course, I know what you might be thinking, is like, "Yeah, you need money to do that", right? 145 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:08,750 But I guess what I'm saying is like, if you get to this point, it's like tipping point, it's like, what's enough? 146 00:14:08,750 --> 00:14:18,710 Right? Where is that happy, sweet spot for you, where it's like I have the money I need to live, and to live an abundant life, and yeah, to like take 147 00:14:18,710 --> 00:14:28,640 care of myself and take care of others the way that I want to, but then there can come a tipping point, where it's like you're just generating more to generate more, and that adds a lot of stress to your life, and you don't 148 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,230 necessarily need that, right? 149 00:14:30,260 --> 00:14:32,450 I think that's a good question to ask yourself. 150 00:14:32,450 --> 00:14:41,780 If there's a way that you can continue to build your business that doesn't add stress to your life, which is always the thing that I'm thinking about, is like, how can we maximize this more without more of me being 151 00:14:41,780 --> 00:14:43,610 needed, then that's cool. 152 00:14:43,610 --> 00:14:49,730 That, to me, is like what I'm constantly thinking about and what the kind of business that I am building. 153 00:14:50,900 --> 00:14:56,460 So, I think that it's just important to remember that this is a choice, right? 154 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,930 You can choose to be in growth mode. 155 00:14:59,930 --> 00:15:03,250 You can choose that you're not in that place right now. 156 00:15:03,260 --> 00:15:12,830 You can choose that you want to do things that you know are going to generate more money for you, but that also will generate new responsibilities, possibly stresses, maybe more team 157 00:15:12,830 --> 00:15:16,810 members, which generates more responsibility, more stresses, it can. 158 00:15:16,820 --> 00:15:23,510 So, just remembering that you get to write this story, you get to choose this path that you're taking. 159 00:15:23,540 --> 00:15:25,040 There is not one right path. 160 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,350 It doesn't always have to be the path of growth, right? 161 00:15:28,350 --> 00:15:36,290 So, there are some times, I thought of a couple of times, that when you're maybe not in growing mode, but you're more in building mode, right? 162 00:15:36,290 --> 00:15:41,390 And I think that more of us would benefit from saying that we're building our businesses instead of growing our businesses, right? 163 00:15:41,990 --> 00:15:49,210 So, we're building our business during times when we are maybe going through a hard time, right? 164 00:15:49,210 --> 00:15:59,060 Like the hard time that I described with my dad, or you might have some similar time, unfortunately, and if so, I'm giving you a big hug, but this might be a time when you're not in a position to 165 00:15:59,060 --> 00:16:00,230 focus on growth. 166 00:16:00,260 --> 00:16:04,460 Maybe you're just trying to keep this thing alive, or maybe you have your head down, you're working on something. 167 00:16:04,460 --> 00:16:10,910 Maybe you're doing product research, and creating and developing something that down the line is going to make you money, right? 168 00:16:11,750 --> 00:16:17,690 Maybe it's just something like you're focusing on lead generation, getting new eyes on your stuff. 169 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:21,230 Maybe you're focusing on nurturing those people that you already have. 170 00:16:21,230 --> 00:16:23,150 And maybe you just don't feel like it. 171 00:16:23,150 --> 00:16:33,110 Maybe you just don't feel like focusing on growing all the time, because of this idea that we constantly need to be making more money so that we can like buy more coaches programs or so that we can 172 00:16:33,110 --> 00:16:37,010 buy like fancy things and material goods. 173 00:16:37,010 --> 00:16:44,220 And then, all that does is make you have to work even more so that you buy more stuff, and it just keeps like cycling, and cycling, and cycling through, right? 174 00:16:44,910 --> 00:16:52,810 I would get really clear on exactly what you need to be happy, not what you're being told to chase after, but what do you need? 175 00:16:52,810 --> 00:17:00,080 Right? Do you need more flexible spending money to take care of yourself, take care of your family, take care of others? 176 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,260 Do you want to give back? 177 00:17:01,260 --> 00:17:10,650 How much is that going to—how much would you ideally, like in your dream scenario, want to make so that you could have enough money to feel safe, confident, secure, 178 00:17:10,650 --> 00:17:18,520 and support others in the way that you want to, to feel flexible, and free, and fun, to travel, to do whatever it is that you want to do? 179 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,150 Right? But it doesn't matter. 180 00:17:20,150 --> 00:17:23,720 If handbags are your thing, like my sister, she has nine million handbags, that is her thing. 181 00:17:23,730 --> 00:17:28,170 She loves it. So, for her, like that is important to her, and that makes her feel good. 182 00:17:28,530 --> 00:17:38,220 For me, it would be like food, traveling, paying for services, like that makes me feel really supported, and like I have more free time when I feel like I can afford 183 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,180 to support others to help me, and my family, and my house, right? 184 00:17:42,330 --> 00:17:45,570 So, being able to give back in certain ways that mean a lot to me. 185 00:17:45,570 --> 00:17:50,430 I love like donating to food companies, food organizations. 186 00:17:50,430 --> 00:17:55,920 So, like that just makes me feel really good and that's what I want to do this for, right? 187 00:17:56,550 --> 00:18:06,030 But sometimes, I have to check myself and say like I'm adding on all these things because I feel like I should, and I'm adding on promotions or I'm adding on this, I'm adding on this arm of my business this new product, this new 188 00:18:06,030 --> 00:18:10,470 thing, is this what I want to do or am I doing this because I think I have to? 189 00:18:10,500 --> 00:18:13,480 Am I doing this because I think I have to constantly be in growth mode? 190 00:18:13,500 --> 00:18:15,930 Am I taking any time just to enjoy? 191 00:18:16,530 --> 00:18:26,430 Am I taking any time just to build, to nurture, to develop, to connect, to take care of myself, to make sure my health is okay and not just like 192 00:18:26,430 --> 00:18:28,500 constantly running myself into the ground? 193 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,830 I think these are all really legitimate questions to ask yourself along the way. 194 00:18:33,430 --> 00:18:42,610 And I just wanted to have this quickie little episode here with you today just to say that like we don't always have to be growing our business. 195 00:18:42,610 --> 00:18:44,420 It is okay. 196 00:18:44,420 --> 00:18:46,930 It's okay if that's something that comes for you down the line. 197 00:18:46,930 --> 00:18:50,690 It's okay if, right now, you don't even know when it's going to be your priority again. 198 00:18:50,710 --> 00:18:52,120 It's okay. 199 00:18:52,120 --> 00:18:55,340 I swear. 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