1 01:00:03,599 --> 01:00:06,894 [MUSIC] 2 01:00:10,565 --> 01:00:13,276 Start It up 3 01:00:13,276 --> 01:00:15,987 Yo Welcome 4 01:00:15,987 --> 01:00:17,363 Yo, this is your boy, Guelly Guel. 5 01:00:17,363 --> 01:00:18,156 This is Common Convo 6 01:00:18,531 --> 01:00:19,866 And as you know, we've started this 7 01:00:19,866 --> 01:00:21,451 project with 8 01:00:21,451 --> 01:00:22,910 Clark County Health Department. 9 01:00:23,161 --> 01:00:24,662 As we're talking about health equity, 10 01:00:24,954 --> 01:00:25,705 we're talking about 11 01:00:25,705 --> 01:00:26,664 the challenges that we 12 01:00:26,664 --> 01:00:28,124 face right here in Clark County and 13 01:00:28,124 --> 01:00:28,958 surrounding areas 14 01:00:28,958 --> 01:00:31,210 with opioid addiction or 15 01:00:31,294 --> 01:00:33,796 just substance abuse as a whole, where 16 01:00:33,796 --> 01:00:36,049 we are in our mental health journeys, 17 01:00:36,049 --> 01:00:37,008 our wellness journeys. 18 01:00:38,009 --> 01:00:40,136 And so I'm excited to consistently be 19 01:00:40,136 --> 01:00:41,679 able to bring in different leaders, 20 01:00:42,430 --> 01:00:44,974 different health activists, if we will, 21 01:00:45,224 --> 01:00:46,809 into the studio and 22 01:00:47,435 --> 01:00:48,853 have an opportunity to talk about where 23 01:00:48,853 --> 01:00:50,897 we are in our community specifically. 24 01:00:51,481 --> 01:00:53,316 Things that we're doing right, things 25 01:00:53,316 --> 01:00:54,067 that we're doing wrong, 26 01:00:54,275 --> 01:00:55,360 things we can do different. 27 01:00:55,860 --> 01:00:57,362 And I think it's super important that 28 01:00:57,362 --> 01:00:58,446 we stay focused on 29 01:00:58,446 --> 01:00:59,864 the task of how do we 30 01:01:00,156 --> 01:01:00,990 heal, right? 31 01:01:01,741 --> 01:01:03,201 And for that, that's gonna mean 32 01:01:03,201 --> 01:01:04,535 different things for different people. 33 01:01:04,535 --> 01:01:07,288 And so today, I have the amazing, and 34 01:01:07,288 --> 01:01:08,706 Pam Clark with me, I say 35 01:01:08,706 --> 01:01:09,582 that super amazing, 36 01:01:09,791 --> 01:01:11,918 cuz I mean, she is phenomenal and does 37 01:01:11,918 --> 01:01:13,086 a lot in our community. 38 01:01:13,795 --> 01:01:15,797 I'm gonna let her explain a lot of it. 39 01:01:15,797 --> 01:01:18,800 And as we have this conversation about 40 01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,844 how you play a significant part 41 01:01:22,345 --> 01:01:24,639 of making sure that we do have equity 42 01:01:24,639 --> 01:01:27,058 in all communities across what, 43 01:01:27,141 --> 01:01:29,435 all racial boundaries, all ethnicities, 44 01:01:30,978 --> 01:01:33,606 LGBTQ plus, etc, etc. 45 01:01:34,107 --> 01:01:36,526 So Pam, we, and excuse the loud trucks 46 01:01:36,526 --> 01:01:38,069 and airplanes that are gonna go by, 47 01:01:38,694 --> 01:01:39,779 because we're in my studio and 48 01:01:39,779 --> 01:01:40,405 apparently there's 49 01:01:40,405 --> 01:01:41,322 construction down the street. 50 01:01:41,572 --> 01:01:43,658 And when you have that, it's there. 51 01:01:43,658 --> 01:01:44,534 So if I don't delete it, you 52 01:01:44,534 --> 01:01:45,618 heard it, it's not my fault. 53 01:01:46,035 --> 01:01:48,496 You didn't know who's watching, or if 54 01:01:48,496 --> 01:01:49,705 you're listening to the podcast. 55 01:01:50,915 --> 01:01:53,668 So but Pam, getting into here, will you 56 01:01:53,668 --> 01:01:56,629 tell our audience, who are you? 57 01:01:56,629 --> 01:01:58,214 And what do you do? 58 01:01:58,214 --> 01:01:59,382 Hey, Miguel, thank you 59 01:01:59,382 --> 01:02:00,341 so much for having me. 60 01:02:00,341 --> 01:02:01,759 As he said, I am Pamela Clark. 61 01:02:02,260 --> 01:02:03,553 I'm the Minority Health Initiative 62 01:02:03,553 --> 01:02:04,887 Director at Community 63 01:02:04,887 --> 01:02:06,222 Action of Southern Indiana. 64 01:02:06,889 --> 01:02:08,266 I am funded through the Indiana 65 01:02:08,266 --> 01:02:09,183 Minority Health 66 01:02:09,183 --> 01:02:11,436 Coalition out of Indianapolis. 67 01:02:12,437 --> 01:02:13,312 Who am I? 68 01:02:13,312 --> 01:02:14,313 I have been in public 69 01:02:14,313 --> 01:02:16,149 health for over 25 years, Miguel. 70 01:02:16,441 --> 01:02:18,067 Wow, you don't look older than I think 71 01:02:18,067 --> 01:02:19,444 you are in 25 years. 72 01:02:19,444 --> 01:02:19,652 I know it. 73 01:02:20,486 --> 01:02:22,029 [LAUGH] Thank you so much. 74 01:02:22,238 --> 01:02:24,073 But 25 years, my 75 01:02:24,073 --> 01:02:25,408 son, I think was three. 76 01:02:26,451 --> 01:02:30,037 And someone asked if I was interested 77 01:02:30,037 --> 01:02:33,499 in an HIV AIDS coordinator's position. 78 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:34,208 Okay. 79 01:02:34,584 --> 01:02:36,169 At that time, I said, sure. 80 01:02:36,919 --> 01:02:38,963 I had no clue about public health. 81 01:02:39,255 --> 01:02:40,465 I wanted to go into business. 82 01:02:42,008 --> 01:02:44,510 So I did that job for two weeks. 83 01:02:44,844 --> 01:02:45,803 And then there was a 84 01:02:45,803 --> 01:02:47,763 position open up to pay more money. 85 01:02:47,763 --> 01:02:50,349 And the immunization 86 01:02:50,349 --> 01:02:53,769 coordinator paid good money, okay? 87 01:02:53,769 --> 01:02:54,395 All right, let's go. 88 01:02:54,437 --> 01:02:57,023 So I took that position to immunize 89 01:02:57,023 --> 01:02:58,983 every child by age two. 90 01:03:00,234 --> 01:03:02,403 After I took that position, I adored 91 01:03:02,403 --> 01:03:04,322 open an opportunity for me 92 01:03:04,322 --> 01:03:05,615 to have my own nonprofit. 93 01:03:06,574 --> 01:03:10,703 My own nonprofit, 501c3, was Southern 94 01:03:10,703 --> 01:03:12,455 Indiana Minority Health Coalition. 95 01:03:13,539 --> 01:03:15,249 Under Indiana 96 01:03:15,249 --> 01:03:17,960 Minority Health Coalition. 97 01:03:18,669 --> 01:03:20,922 I tell you, I had 13 98 01:03:20,922 --> 01:03:22,298 diseases to address. 99 01:03:22,507 --> 01:03:23,633 I wrote grants. 100 01:03:24,258 --> 01:03:27,053 I had that coalition for 14 years. 101 01:03:27,553 --> 01:03:29,555 I had plenty of volunteers, and it was 102 01:03:29,555 --> 01:03:31,057 located in Clark County. 103 01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:34,560 After that, I went to work, after I 104 01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:35,686 lost my mom to cancer. 105 01:03:36,646 --> 01:03:38,439 I went to work for the American Cancer 106 01:03:38,439 --> 01:03:40,525 Society for nine years. 107 01:03:40,858 --> 01:03:43,653 I covered the Mid-South Division down 108 01:03:43,653 --> 01:03:44,487 in the Black Belt, 109 01:03:44,779 --> 01:03:46,697 Alabama, Mississippi. 110 01:03:48,199 --> 01:03:49,825 And that program was a 111 01:03:49,825 --> 01:03:52,370 community-based program where we 112 01:03:54,247 --> 01:03:55,706 educated women on breast cancer. 113 01:03:56,958 --> 01:03:59,627 So, but Miguel, I have, this has been 114 01:03:59,627 --> 01:04:01,629 like a roller coaster ride for me. 115 01:04:02,338 --> 01:04:06,342 Because public health and losing so 116 01:04:06,342 --> 01:04:07,552 many family members to 117 01:04:07,552 --> 01:04:10,638 cancer, it became personal. 118 01:04:11,514 --> 01:04:14,559 My job became personal to where I've 119 01:04:14,559 --> 01:04:15,059 gotta make a 120 01:04:15,059 --> 01:04:16,477 difference in my community, 121 01:04:16,936 --> 01:04:19,230 where I live, where my children are 122 01:04:19,230 --> 01:04:21,482 growing up, where my family lives, 123 01:04:21,482 --> 01:04:22,650 where my friends live. 124 01:04:23,776 --> 01:04:24,944 I wanted to make a difference. 125 01:04:26,153 --> 01:04:27,822 You ever did something, I think you do. 126 01:04:27,822 --> 01:04:29,240 You ever did something where it's work, 127 01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:30,741 but you enjoy it so much. 128 01:04:30,783 --> 01:04:31,993 Absolutely, doing this right here. 129 01:04:31,993 --> 01:04:34,453 This is, I mean, it is. 130 01:04:34,453 --> 01:04:37,540 It's a tedious amount of work, and just 131 01:04:37,540 --> 01:04:39,250 on the technical side, being in it. 132 01:04:39,250 --> 01:04:40,543 But the other part is, is that this 133 01:04:40,543 --> 01:04:41,836 work for me is still 134 01:04:41,836 --> 01:04:42,920 about social justice. 135 01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,798 So much of what I cover, I had a 136 01:04:45,798 --> 01:04:46,507 conversation with 137 01:04:46,507 --> 01:04:48,467 Tia some years ago, and 138 01:04:48,467 --> 01:04:49,969 was like, man, if I could just get 139 01:04:49,969 --> 01:04:51,220 paid, figure out how to 140 01:04:51,220 --> 01:04:52,555 get paid, earn an income. 141 01:04:54,849 --> 01:04:57,560 Having conversations about how we fix 142 01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:58,978 the problems in our community, 143 01:04:59,562 --> 01:05:00,146 I'd be cool. 144 01:05:01,022 --> 01:05:02,398 And so yeah, absolutely. 145 01:05:03,566 --> 01:05:05,359 Good, so you know exactly what I mean. 146 01:05:05,735 --> 01:05:07,153 When I start talking about even 147 01:05:07,153 --> 01:05:08,821 relationships, when I start, 148 01:05:08,821 --> 01:05:09,655 because you can't do 149 01:05:09,655 --> 01:05:11,324 this job by yourself. 150 01:05:11,574 --> 01:05:13,075 When I had my nonprofit, I 151 01:05:13,075 --> 01:05:14,827 was the only one on staff. 152 01:05:15,953 --> 01:05:18,748 But the key was community partners. 153 01:05:20,666 --> 01:05:22,251 Clark Memorial Hospital, 154 01:05:24,253 --> 01:05:26,172 Clark County Health Department. 155 01:05:28,674 --> 01:05:31,594 Just churches and other nonprofits. 156 01:05:33,512 --> 01:05:36,182 Sitting at the table and representing 157 01:05:36,182 --> 01:05:37,850 the people you look like. 158 01:05:38,934 --> 01:05:41,062 I represent, whenever I sit at the 159 01:05:41,062 --> 01:05:43,439 table, I don't care where I am or 160 01:05:43,481 --> 01:05:45,316 whose table it is, I 161 01:05:45,316 --> 01:05:46,901 represent minority health. 162 01:05:47,151 --> 01:05:48,778 I represent people of color. 163 01:05:49,528 --> 01:05:51,030 I represent Clark County. 164 01:05:53,199 --> 01:05:56,619 And when I say that, that's also to 165 01:05:56,619 --> 01:05:58,120 identify resources 166 01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:00,873 that in our community, 167 01:06:00,998 --> 01:06:04,085 that our residents can use those 168 01:06:04,085 --> 01:06:07,380 resources to help them feel better. 169 01:06:08,297 --> 01:06:11,509 To help them get their screenings, to 170 01:06:11,509 --> 01:06:12,927 help them get their medication. 171 01:06:14,136 --> 01:06:15,930 But it's not always that easy, Miguel. 172 01:06:16,681 --> 01:06:18,015 We talk about that. 173 01:06:18,224 --> 01:06:20,184 We always had these 174 01:06:20,184 --> 01:06:21,644 conversations about access. 175 01:06:22,812 --> 01:06:24,980 We're saying, well, medical supplies is 176 01:06:24,980 --> 01:06:26,315 out there, hospitals are out there, 177 01:06:26,315 --> 01:06:27,149 doctors are out there, 178 01:06:27,149 --> 01:06:27,900 nurses are out there. 179 01:06:28,901 --> 01:06:31,362 Why is it that one community is saying, 180 01:06:31,362 --> 01:06:32,655 hey, I have access, 181 01:06:32,655 --> 01:06:33,614 or another part of the community 182 01:06:33,614 --> 01:06:35,032 saying, I don't have access? 183 01:06:35,199 --> 01:06:36,367 What makes it so complicated? 184 01:06:37,159 --> 01:06:40,287 The difference is that when we look at 185 01:06:40,287 --> 01:06:42,707 certain areas of Clark County, 186 01:06:43,541 --> 01:06:46,168 there are bus lines, there are 187 01:06:46,168 --> 01:06:48,337 daycares, there are jobs. 188 01:06:49,296 --> 01:06:51,549 But when we look at some of the other 189 01:06:51,549 --> 01:06:54,635 communities, there's not a bus line. 190 01:06:55,344 --> 01:06:58,097 There's folks who may not have 191 01:06:58,097 --> 01:07:01,434 completed a college education. 192 01:07:01,434 --> 01:07:02,435 Education becomes an 193 01:07:02,435 --> 01:07:04,270 issue, they may be low income. 194 01:07:05,813 --> 01:07:07,648 There are people, Miguel, I would go 195 01:07:07,648 --> 01:07:10,568 door to door in some of the communities 196 01:07:11,652 --> 01:07:14,488 in Clark County, and I would ask people 197 01:07:14,488 --> 01:07:16,699 about their health. 198 01:07:17,158 --> 01:07:18,743 I want to know how you're doing. 199 01:07:19,535 --> 01:07:21,162 I want to know if you know about the 200 01:07:21,162 --> 01:07:23,414 family health center that's over across 201 01:07:23,414 --> 01:07:23,956 the street. 202 01:07:24,790 --> 01:07:26,417 Have you used their services? 203 01:07:27,501 --> 01:07:28,919 So what I would do is I 204 01:07:28,919 --> 01:07:30,671 would ask those questions. 205 01:07:31,338 --> 01:07:34,216 If some women may need a mammogram, I 206 01:07:34,216 --> 01:07:35,009 had one woman that 207 01:07:35,009 --> 01:07:35,926 did need a mammogram, 208 01:07:35,926 --> 01:07:36,761 found a lump in her 209 01:07:36,761 --> 01:07:38,220 breast, but she was comfortable. 210 01:07:39,180 --> 01:07:40,181 She said, I'm okay, what I 211 01:07:40,181 --> 01:07:41,307 don't know won't hurt me. 212 01:07:41,766 --> 01:07:44,268 Well, see, as black folks, we do have a 213 01:07:44,268 --> 01:07:47,229 tendency to continue with those myths, 214 01:07:47,772 --> 01:07:50,649 to continue to say what I don't know 215 01:07:50,649 --> 01:07:52,151 won't hurt me, and that's not true. 216 01:07:52,485 --> 01:07:54,069 So I stood there and had a conversation 217 01:07:54,069 --> 01:07:55,321 with her, told her 218 01:07:55,321 --> 01:07:56,155 about the family health 219 01:07:56,197 --> 01:07:57,364 center, told her about the breast and 220 01:07:57,364 --> 01:07:58,532 cervical cancer program. 221 01:07:59,283 --> 01:08:01,619 How many people do you see? 222 01:08:02,286 --> 01:08:04,580 And I know I don't hate to say this, 223 01:08:04,580 --> 01:08:05,706 because you gotta go 224 01:08:05,706 --> 01:08:06,540 to where people are. 225 01:08:06,624 --> 01:08:08,375 And I know that may sound old cliche, 226 01:08:08,709 --> 01:08:09,877 but you have to go and 227 01:08:09,877 --> 01:08:11,086 you have to have that conversation. 228 01:08:11,962 --> 01:08:13,672 This lady did end up going to the 229 01:08:13,672 --> 01:08:14,465 family health center. 230 01:08:14,673 --> 01:08:16,759 She did end up receiving services. 231 01:08:17,176 --> 01:08:19,053 But if I had not knocked on her door, 232 01:08:19,845 --> 01:08:20,846 she may not have went. 233 01:08:21,597 --> 01:08:23,182 You're saying you have 234 01:08:23,182 --> 01:08:25,226 to go to where people are. 235 01:08:25,226 --> 01:08:26,852 And we talk about services, we talk 236 01:08:26,852 --> 01:08:27,603 about opportunities. 237 01:08:28,979 --> 01:08:30,481 So I think there's a couple things that 238 01:08:30,481 --> 01:08:31,440 come to mind for me. 239 01:08:31,732 --> 01:08:33,067 And one is sometimes we 240 01:08:33,067 --> 01:08:34,443 don't know the services existed. 241 01:08:35,319 --> 01:08:37,696 The other part is, is there something 242 01:08:37,696 --> 01:08:39,990 that happens in the black community or 243 01:08:40,074 --> 01:08:41,408 economically challenged communities 244 01:08:41,408 --> 01:08:43,160 where there's a trust issue? 245 01:08:43,994 --> 01:08:46,372 And so what I don't know 246 01:08:46,372 --> 01:08:48,624 won't hurt me is more so 247 01:08:48,791 --> 01:08:51,877 of a reflection of the 248 01:08:51,877 --> 01:08:52,503 trust in the community. 249 01:08:52,837 --> 01:08:53,963 I don't trust this facility. 250 01:08:54,213 --> 01:08:55,714 I may not trust this doctor, I may not 251 01:08:55,714 --> 01:08:56,590 trust this service. 252 01:08:57,007 --> 01:08:58,759 I wanna remain private and I don't 253 01:08:58,759 --> 01:09:00,970 trust that they won't share. 254 01:09:01,303 --> 01:09:02,179 Right, right. 255 01:09:02,596 --> 01:09:04,306 And part of that trust, when you start 256 01:09:04,306 --> 01:09:07,226 talking about trusting your doctors and 257 01:09:07,852 --> 01:09:13,774 trusting your provider, it goes back to 258 01:09:13,774 --> 01:09:15,568 the Tuskegee experiment. 259 01:09:15,860 --> 01:09:18,320 It goes back to history because we pass 260 01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:19,738 that information down 261 01:09:19,738 --> 01:09:21,240 through generations. 262 01:09:21,699 --> 01:09:24,660 And what we have to do is to make sure 263 01:09:24,660 --> 01:09:26,328 that we continue to 264 01:09:26,495 --> 01:09:28,998 educate individuals on speaking up for 265 01:09:28,998 --> 01:09:29,707 themselves when 266 01:09:29,707 --> 01:09:30,875 you're talking about trust. 267 01:09:32,251 --> 01:09:34,628 My own personal experience of trust 268 01:09:34,628 --> 01:09:36,547 with a doctor was when 269 01:09:36,547 --> 01:09:38,465 my son was an infant. 270 01:09:39,216 --> 01:09:42,052 And they assumed I was on Medicaid 271 01:09:42,052 --> 01:09:43,929 instead of having health insurance. 272 01:09:43,929 --> 01:09:45,097 They didn't ask for my health insurance 273 01:09:45,097 --> 01:09:47,099 card, they asked for my Medicaid card. 274 01:09:47,683 --> 01:09:50,185 And I've never been on Medicaid, but 275 01:09:50,185 --> 01:09:51,645 when I talk about trust, 276 01:09:52,271 --> 01:09:57,276 I'm referring to making sure that we 277 01:09:57,276 --> 01:09:58,027 have that open 278 01:09:58,027 --> 01:09:59,904 dialogue between our provider. 279 01:10:02,531 --> 01:10:04,700 And making sure that some people don't 280 01:10:04,700 --> 01:10:05,659 trust the prescriptions 281 01:10:05,659 --> 01:10:07,161 that their doctors give them. 282 01:10:07,494 --> 01:10:09,955 The conversations that I have are, if 283 01:10:09,955 --> 01:10:11,248 your doctor gives you a prescription, 284 01:10:11,248 --> 01:10:12,374 do you understand what a 285 01:10:12,374 --> 01:10:13,709 teaspoon, a tablespoon is? 286 01:10:14,627 --> 01:10:16,837 A lot of people don't understand that. 287 01:10:18,213 --> 01:10:20,758 It's really about health literacy and 288 01:10:22,009 --> 01:10:24,178 again being your own advocate when 289 01:10:24,178 --> 01:10:24,803 you're talking about 290 01:10:24,803 --> 01:10:27,056 trusting your own provider. 291 01:10:28,265 --> 01:10:30,768 Another example is I had a person in 292 01:10:30,768 --> 01:10:32,394 the community said that they did not go 293 01:10:32,394 --> 01:10:33,854 to this particular place for 294 01:10:33,979 --> 01:10:36,065 care because no one looked like them. 295 01:10:36,941 --> 01:10:38,525 And she was a woman, a black woman. 296 01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:42,655 And being a part of the community and 297 01:10:42,655 --> 01:10:43,614 having this particular 298 01:10:43,614 --> 01:10:45,991 organization on my board, 299 01:10:45,991 --> 01:10:47,993 I had a conversation with the executive 300 01:10:47,993 --> 01:10:49,662 director and she made changes. 301 01:10:51,246 --> 01:10:53,624 She made changes because you're not, 302 01:10:53,958 --> 01:10:55,584 again, you're working in the community. 303 01:10:56,126 --> 01:10:57,503 You're connecting them to resources, 304 01:10:57,753 --> 01:10:59,713 but you're also being that ear. 305 01:11:00,339 --> 01:11:02,508 You're also, as I said, when I sit down 306 01:11:02,508 --> 01:11:04,426 at the table, I represent 307 01:11:04,426 --> 01:11:06,220 the people that I serve. 308 01:11:06,971 --> 01:11:08,347 I represent the community. 309 01:11:09,014 --> 01:11:10,641 Let's address that sitting at the table 310 01:11:10,641 --> 01:11:13,185 because I know sitting at the many 311 01:11:13,185 --> 01:11:14,436 tables in this community, 312 01:11:14,728 --> 01:11:16,230 we might be the only ones. 313 01:11:17,398 --> 01:11:20,109 And what you just identified is why it 314 01:11:20,109 --> 01:11:21,193 is important for us 315 01:11:21,193 --> 01:11:23,445 sometimes to, for us as brown, 316 01:11:23,445 --> 01:11:24,780 black people to be in 317 01:11:24,780 --> 01:11:26,949 an awkward space, right? 318 01:11:27,449 --> 01:11:29,159 Being the only one at the table because 319 01:11:29,159 --> 01:11:32,204 when we do voice something, it may be 320 01:11:32,204 --> 01:11:33,998 the first time that anyone on that 321 01:11:33,998 --> 01:11:36,583 board or on that committee has ever 322 01:11:36,583 --> 01:11:37,459 heard of that issue. 323 01:11:38,127 --> 01:11:41,505 And if you don't advocate, if we can't 324 01:11:41,505 --> 01:11:42,297 give agency to the 325 01:11:42,297 --> 01:11:43,549 people who don't have agency, 326 01:11:44,466 --> 01:11:46,552 then the growth that we 327 01:11:46,552 --> 01:11:48,470 hope will come doesn't. 328 01:11:49,179 --> 01:11:50,639 And you deliver that. 329 01:11:51,015 --> 01:11:54,018 And so you can sit here and say, yes, 330 01:11:54,018 --> 01:11:54,893 things have changed. 331 01:11:54,893 --> 01:11:56,228 And I've worked with directors and 332 01:11:56,228 --> 01:11:58,856 programs who said, man, we don't have 333 01:11:58,856 --> 01:12:00,816 people of color who work here, 334 01:12:00,816 --> 01:12:02,401 so we'll adjust that. 335 01:12:02,401 --> 01:12:03,694 Now, not everybody does that. 336 01:12:03,694 --> 01:12:04,862 Some people don't care or 337 01:12:04,862 --> 01:12:06,989 they have rhyme and reason. 338 01:12:07,698 --> 01:12:08,866 We'll just leave it like that. 339 01:12:09,199 --> 01:12:09,867 As I said, I was going 340 01:12:09,867 --> 01:12:10,784 to play nice on this. 341 01:12:10,784 --> 01:12:11,160 Yes. 342 01:12:11,827 --> 01:12:13,120 You are being really good. 343 01:12:13,620 --> 01:12:15,080 You are because I know I 344 01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:16,290 know how this could go. 345 01:12:16,290 --> 01:12:17,041 But yeah, you are. 346 01:12:17,750 --> 01:12:18,250 That's OK. 347 01:12:19,126 --> 01:12:21,170 You know, sometimes there's a time to 348 01:12:21,170 --> 01:12:22,004 carry a spear and 349 01:12:22,004 --> 01:12:24,048 sometimes carry a pen in the book. 350 01:12:24,256 --> 01:12:25,841 And on this series, I think it's more 351 01:12:25,841 --> 01:12:27,009 about let's educate. 352 01:12:29,595 --> 01:12:30,596 It's a hard conversation 353 01:12:30,596 --> 01:12:32,056 no matter how we look at it. 354 01:12:32,306 --> 01:12:33,557 And because go ahead. 355 01:12:33,766 --> 01:12:35,267 Because you have to you have to have 356 01:12:35,267 --> 01:12:38,312 that conversation about systemic 357 01:12:38,312 --> 01:12:39,980 racism, discrimination. 358 01:12:41,356 --> 01:12:44,943 If I feel it, if someone in your office 359 01:12:44,943 --> 01:12:48,322 mistreated me and I just leave, 360 01:12:48,322 --> 01:12:49,698 you're not going to hear about what 361 01:12:49,698 --> 01:12:50,824 happened or why I left. 362 01:12:50,824 --> 01:12:52,367 You're not going to follow up with me. 363 01:12:53,660 --> 01:12:57,456 But if I see Pam on the street and Pam, 364 01:12:57,456 --> 01:12:58,290 this is what happened. 365 01:12:59,208 --> 01:13:00,417 I'm going to go back and we're going to 366 01:13:00,417 --> 01:13:01,293 have that conversation. 367 01:13:02,127 --> 01:13:02,795 It's a conversation 368 01:13:02,795 --> 01:13:04,213 that we have to have. 369 01:13:04,213 --> 01:13:04,880 When you're talking about 370 01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:06,215 discrimination, stress 371 01:13:06,215 --> 01:13:07,633 brings on a lot of issues. 372 01:13:08,050 --> 01:13:10,260 Stress brings on headaches, 373 01:13:10,636 --> 01:13:12,387 hypertension, heart disease. 374 01:13:13,013 --> 01:13:14,056 It plays a role in a 375 01:13:14,056 --> 01:13:15,224 lot of chronic diseases. 376 01:13:15,933 --> 01:13:17,935 So if I'm feeling-- and I know you 377 01:13:17,935 --> 01:13:19,478 understand this from 2020. 378 01:13:19,937 --> 01:13:21,146 Because I keep going back with-- 379 01:13:21,647 --> 01:13:22,940 I know we're being recorded. 380 01:13:22,940 --> 01:13:24,983 But (Maurice) Miguel, I keep going back to the 381 01:13:24,983 --> 01:13:27,069 stress that I felt in 2020. 382 01:13:29,113 --> 01:13:31,824 The marches that-- the headaches that I 383 01:13:31,824 --> 01:13:33,408 had, the concerns I had. 384 01:13:33,700 --> 01:13:35,869 Now see, that brings 385 01:13:35,869 --> 01:13:37,037 social determinants of health. 386 01:13:38,288 --> 01:13:42,209 So when I don't feel safe or if I'm 387 01:13:42,209 --> 01:13:44,336 concerned about my teenage child, 388 01:13:45,045 --> 01:13:46,588 that's part of public health. 389 01:13:47,422 --> 01:13:49,299 Feeling safe is part of public health. 390 01:13:49,967 --> 01:13:53,637 So I have to make sure that I address 391 01:13:53,637 --> 01:13:56,140 those issues when it comes to safety, 392 01:13:56,306 --> 01:13:56,890 when it comes to 393 01:13:56,890 --> 01:13:58,475 discrimination, when it comes to-- 394 01:14:00,352 --> 01:14:02,146 so when I'm being mistreated, when I 395 01:14:02,146 --> 01:14:04,690 don't feel like I'm getting the care 396 01:14:04,690 --> 01:14:05,482 that I need. 397 01:14:06,442 --> 01:14:08,026 And it's OK to speak up. 398 01:14:08,944 --> 01:14:10,154 Just like you guys marched. 399 01:14:10,404 --> 01:14:12,614 Y'all spoke up in 2020. 400 01:14:12,906 --> 01:14:13,115 Yeah. 401 01:14:13,824 --> 01:14:18,120 I mean, I think 2020, 19, it changed a 402 01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:19,037 lot for a lot of people. 403 01:14:21,039 --> 01:14:22,833 And I think for some of us-- 404 01:14:22,833 --> 01:14:24,585 and I'll backtrack a little bit. 405 01:14:24,585 --> 01:14:25,669 I had a couple of clients that said you 406 01:14:25,669 --> 01:14:26,378 shouldn't be out there. 407 01:14:27,504 --> 01:14:28,964 And most people don't even 408 01:14:28,964 --> 01:14:30,299 know how I got to the fact 409 01:14:30,299 --> 01:14:31,675 that I was protesting anyway. 410 01:14:32,551 --> 01:14:34,720 And it was weird because my daughter 411 01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:35,554 wanted to go protest 412 01:14:35,554 --> 01:14:37,973 in the first night the things that were 413 01:14:37,973 --> 01:14:38,807 going on in Louisville 414 01:14:38,807 --> 01:14:39,975 in terms of Breonna Taylor. 415 01:14:40,559 --> 01:14:43,020 And so we're in night two, and I'm 416 01:14:43,020 --> 01:14:44,479 watching it in the office. 417 01:14:44,855 --> 01:14:46,315 And Teah and shug call. 418 01:14:46,315 --> 01:14:48,275 I want to go downtown, and I have a 419 01:14:48,275 --> 01:14:48,901 voice, and I want to 420 01:14:48,901 --> 01:14:49,776 voice it in my head. 421 01:14:49,776 --> 01:14:50,277 I said no. 422 01:14:50,694 --> 01:14:51,945 And I've been telling this story. 423 01:14:52,362 --> 01:14:53,405 And I was like, nah, 424 01:14:53,405 --> 01:14:54,406 I'm not taking you down. 425 01:14:54,406 --> 01:14:55,324 You have no idea what 426 01:14:55,324 --> 01:14:56,325 that is going to look like. 427 01:14:57,159 --> 01:14:58,327 And they said, well, who 428 01:14:58,327 --> 01:14:59,661 better to take me than you, Dad? 429 01:14:59,828 --> 01:15:00,996 You know what it's going to look like. 430 01:15:00,996 --> 01:15:02,039 You know what it's going to feel like. 431 01:15:02,039 --> 01:15:02,998 And I was like, you know what? 432 01:15:03,540 --> 01:15:03,957 You're right. 433 01:15:05,083 --> 01:15:05,918 What we don't later 434 01:15:05,918 --> 01:15:07,628 understand is the amount of trauma 435 01:15:08,420 --> 01:15:11,757 that we cause to ourselves being in a 436 01:15:11,757 --> 01:15:14,927 volatile environment. 437 01:15:14,927 --> 01:15:16,345 It was a war environment, right? 438 01:15:16,345 --> 01:15:17,429 Brought on by both 439 01:15:17,429 --> 01:15:18,722 government and people. 440 01:15:19,723 --> 01:15:21,350 And so we have to address that. 441 01:15:22,184 --> 01:15:25,062 But it gave such a new voice. 442 01:15:25,354 --> 01:15:27,272 I remember sitting on one 443 01:15:27,272 --> 01:15:29,399 SI's board for some years, 444 01:15:29,650 --> 01:15:33,654 and we would introduce this thing about 445 01:15:33,654 --> 01:15:35,989 social racism or social equity 446 01:15:36,073 --> 01:15:39,409 or economics and the fact that black 447 01:15:39,409 --> 01:15:41,286 folks were being excluded and yada, 448 01:15:41,286 --> 01:15:42,704 yada, yada, and so on. 449 01:15:43,205 --> 01:15:44,081 And we would continue to 450 01:15:44,081 --> 01:15:44,998 have these conversations. 451 01:15:45,707 --> 01:15:48,710 And they wouldn't really go anywhere. 452 01:15:49,753 --> 01:15:53,257 It's the math didn't math at the time. 453 01:15:53,799 --> 01:15:57,177 And I think what 2020 showed the US, 454 01:15:57,386 --> 01:15:59,263 but very specifically at home, 455 01:15:59,638 --> 01:16:02,474 was that we are not far removed from 456 01:16:02,474 --> 01:16:03,642 the racial inequities that 457 01:16:03,684 --> 01:16:05,102 happen across the country. 458 01:16:05,894 --> 01:16:07,646 And in Clark County, Floyd 459 01:16:07,646 --> 01:16:09,606 County, and across the river, 460 01:16:09,856 --> 01:16:12,317 in Jefferson County, Lou, there are a 461 01:16:12,317 --> 01:16:13,485 lot that are happening 462 01:16:13,777 --> 01:16:15,070 that's intentional. 463 01:16:16,029 --> 01:16:18,323 And it does create home, right? 464 01:16:18,782 --> 01:16:22,077 It is a continuation of the inequities 465 01:16:22,077 --> 01:16:23,203 that we face systematically. 466 01:16:24,538 --> 01:16:25,455 And no matter how many 467 01:16:25,455 --> 01:16:26,456 PAM's are in the place, 468 01:16:26,665 --> 01:16:27,958 no matter how many Miguel's are in a 469 01:16:27,958 --> 01:16:30,210 place, if the powers don't be, 470 01:16:30,210 --> 01:16:32,963 if our mayors and our governors, people 471 01:16:32,963 --> 01:16:33,880 who are ahead of our health 472 01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:36,008 departments, people who are ahead of 473 01:16:36,008 --> 01:16:37,843 organizations and banks 474 01:16:37,843 --> 01:16:41,263 are not paying attention or don't want 475 01:16:41,263 --> 01:16:42,222 a culture of equity, 476 01:16:42,472 --> 01:16:43,140 then we have to 477 01:16:43,140 --> 01:16:44,099 address these things, right? 478 01:16:44,474 --> 01:16:45,726 Because we were not-- 479 01:16:47,144 --> 01:16:48,937 I would like to say we're not safe. 480 01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:52,941 For a lot of people, safety in this 481 01:16:52,941 --> 01:16:54,443 community, being Black or Brown, 482 01:16:54,443 --> 01:16:56,320 doesn't exist, right? 483 01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:59,281 We leave the home with a concern that 484 01:16:59,281 --> 01:17:01,450 we live in an unsafe environment, 485 01:17:02,743 --> 01:17:04,828 both from institution and individuals. 486 01:17:05,829 --> 01:17:07,664 And I think part of this 487 01:17:07,664 --> 01:17:09,708 conversation, I think the fact 488 01:17:09,708 --> 01:17:11,376 that Clark County Health Department 489 01:17:11,376 --> 01:17:13,045 said, let's have a conversation, 490 01:17:13,378 --> 01:17:15,922 let's have an open dialogue about what 491 01:17:15,922 --> 01:17:18,175 health equity looks like. 492 01:17:20,093 --> 01:17:20,927 I asked the conversation-- 493 01:17:21,511 --> 01:17:24,473 during the 2020, we were all sitting in 494 01:17:24,473 --> 01:17:28,185 these Zoom meetings because of COVID. 495 01:17:28,643 --> 01:17:30,520 And I asked the question there, we 496 01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:31,980 weren't talking about health equity. 497 01:17:31,980 --> 01:17:33,940 We were talking about wealth and 498 01:17:33,940 --> 01:17:36,109 economic positioning of the community 499 01:17:36,109 --> 01:17:36,693 as a whole. 500 01:17:37,361 --> 01:17:38,653 And I remember asking a lot of the 501 01:17:38,653 --> 01:17:39,613 leadership in that room, 502 01:17:39,613 --> 01:17:40,530 what does equity look like? 503 01:17:41,365 --> 01:17:43,033 You're saying you want to create it, 504 01:17:43,033 --> 01:17:44,034 but what does it look like? 505 01:17:44,576 --> 01:17:48,038 And that conversation never happened. 506 01:17:48,038 --> 01:17:49,247 The answer never came. 507 01:17:49,998 --> 01:17:51,208 And we're in 2023. 508 01:17:52,959 --> 01:17:53,794 I want to say the 509 01:17:53,794 --> 01:17:55,379 answer still has yet been-- 510 01:17:55,670 --> 01:17:57,339 I have yet to hear it, but what I have 511 01:17:57,339 --> 01:17:59,007 seen is a few people, 512 01:17:59,007 --> 01:18:02,719 a few organizations say, let's step out 513 01:18:02,719 --> 01:18:03,970 here and see if we can figure it out. 514 01:18:03,970 --> 01:18:04,888 Because we don't 515 01:18:04,888 --> 01:18:05,680 know what it looks like. 516 01:18:06,681 --> 01:18:08,475 And we don't have a plan. 517 01:18:08,475 --> 01:18:09,643 Now, there are some folks like Mayor 518 01:18:09,643 --> 01:18:12,145 Treva Hodges or Mayor Treva Hodges 519 01:18:12,729 --> 01:18:13,980 over in Charlestown (Indiana) has done some 520 01:18:13,980 --> 01:18:16,149 really unique things in terms 521 01:18:16,149 --> 01:18:17,943 of hiring practices and programming. 522 01:18:18,235 --> 01:18:20,028 And she's been boisterous about it. 523 01:18:20,028 --> 01:18:20,612 Yes, she has. 524 01:18:21,738 --> 01:18:22,989 You've got CASI, who is 525 01:18:22,989 --> 01:18:24,324 doing a great deal of things. 526 01:18:25,158 --> 01:18:26,493 And so we have pockets 527 01:18:26,493 --> 01:18:27,994 of folks in the community. 528 01:18:27,994 --> 01:18:30,080 The fact that Dr. Yezel 529 01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:31,206 with the Health Department 530 01:18:31,206 --> 01:18:33,500 is out here looking at it 531 01:18:33,500 --> 01:18:34,626 and saying, how do we fix it? 532 01:18:35,043 --> 01:18:36,586 How do we implement things? 533 01:18:36,586 --> 01:18:37,087 What's missing? 534 01:18:37,671 --> 01:18:37,921 Right. 535 01:18:38,422 --> 01:18:39,756 And we have to fix it together. 536 01:18:40,298 --> 01:18:40,507 Yeah. 537 01:18:40,632 --> 01:18:41,716 We can't-- we have to have-- 538 01:18:41,716 --> 01:18:42,759 when I say together, not just 539 01:18:42,759 --> 01:18:44,177 with the health professionals and not 540 01:18:44,177 --> 01:18:46,388 just with those folks who 541 01:18:46,388 --> 01:18:48,807 are community health workers, we have 542 01:18:48,807 --> 01:18:50,809 to bring those folks 543 01:18:50,809 --> 01:18:52,352 to the table from the community. 544 01:18:52,352 --> 01:18:54,729 We have to have that discussion, that 545 01:18:54,729 --> 01:18:56,398 raw discussion from those 546 01:18:56,481 --> 01:18:58,275 that it really impacts. 547 01:18:59,192 --> 01:19:02,154 Because black men are still 548 01:19:02,154 --> 01:19:04,614 dying from chronic diseases, 549 01:19:04,698 --> 01:19:07,826 from hypertension, from strokes, 550 01:19:08,368 --> 01:19:10,036 from seven years 551 01:19:10,036 --> 01:19:12,164 earlier than white men. 552 01:19:13,790 --> 01:19:16,209 And till this day, this is 2022. 553 01:19:16,835 --> 01:19:18,253 And we are still at 554 01:19:18,253 --> 01:19:18,962 the top of the chart 555 01:19:18,962 --> 01:19:20,338 when it comes to health disparities. 556 01:19:21,089 --> 01:19:22,674 The gap has not been closed. 557 01:19:23,133 --> 01:19:24,676 I remember when I first started, we 558 01:19:24,676 --> 01:19:26,678 talked about healthy people-- 559 01:19:27,304 --> 01:19:29,014 I think it was Healthy People 2018, 560 01:19:29,848 --> 01:19:31,975 Healthy People 2016. 561 01:19:32,642 --> 01:19:33,310 We're talking about 562 01:19:33,310 --> 01:19:34,603 Healthy People Close to Health 563 01:19:34,603 --> 01:19:35,353 Disparities Gap. 564 01:19:35,687 --> 01:19:37,439 How are we going to do that? 565 01:19:38,231 --> 01:19:40,108 We have to also-- we can't leave out 566 01:19:40,108 --> 01:19:41,443 the part of advocacy. 567 01:19:42,194 --> 01:19:43,820 We can't leave the part out 568 01:19:43,820 --> 01:19:45,822 of going to the state house 569 01:19:45,822 --> 01:19:47,949 and being that voice and being heard. 570 01:19:48,575 --> 01:19:50,285 There was one time they wanted to-- 571 01:19:50,952 --> 01:19:52,621 you ever talk about cutting the Breast 572 01:19:52,621 --> 01:19:53,413 and Cervical Cancer 573 01:19:53,497 --> 01:19:54,372 Program dollars. 574 01:19:54,789 --> 01:19:55,373 Who do you think 575 01:19:55,373 --> 01:19:56,082 that's going to impact? 576 01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:58,502 That's going to impact women of color. 577 01:20:00,295 --> 01:20:01,796 And I don't know if you 578 01:20:01,796 --> 01:20:02,756 want to delete this part, 579 01:20:02,756 --> 01:20:04,341 but we're also talking about abortion. 580 01:20:04,674 --> 01:20:05,634 At the state level, 581 01:20:05,634 --> 01:20:06,968 we're talking about abortion. 582 01:20:06,968 --> 01:20:08,011 We're talking about now-- 583 01:20:08,470 --> 01:20:10,180 we're talking about women of color 584 01:20:10,514 --> 01:20:13,683 now going back to the alley to get this 585 01:20:13,683 --> 01:20:16,561 botched up job done. 586 01:20:17,437 --> 01:20:19,814 Because we are passing laws that are 587 01:20:19,814 --> 01:20:21,399 going to be so strict 588 01:20:21,399 --> 01:20:22,734 in the state of Indiana. 589 01:20:24,486 --> 01:20:26,321 Even if a woman has been raped, she's 590 01:20:26,321 --> 01:20:27,030 not going to be able 591 01:20:27,030 --> 01:20:27,697 to get an abortion. 592 01:20:29,658 --> 01:20:30,909 We've had this conversation 593 01:20:30,909 --> 01:20:32,160 on a couple of the podcasts, 594 01:20:32,702 --> 01:20:33,787 and what does the world 595 01:20:33,787 --> 01:20:34,996 look like post-Rovy Way? 596 01:20:36,122 --> 01:20:37,415 But here's the even 597 01:20:37,415 --> 01:20:38,416 crazier question is, 598 01:20:38,416 --> 01:20:39,000 what does our community 599 01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:40,794 look like during Rovy Way? 600 01:20:40,794 --> 01:20:42,587 Some communities were already bad, 601 01:20:43,171 --> 01:20:44,673 Indiana being one of them. 602 01:20:45,173 --> 01:20:46,800 I had Dr. Rita on 603 01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:48,093 here in the last session, 604 01:20:48,093 --> 01:20:49,719 and we talked about the 605 01:20:49,719 --> 01:20:51,096 fact that one out of every four 606 01:20:51,096 --> 01:20:52,138 young women will be 607 01:20:52,138 --> 01:20:54,516 sexually assaulted and abused 608 01:20:54,558 --> 01:20:55,392 before she leaves middle 609 01:20:55,392 --> 01:20:58,061 school, and men one out of six 610 01:20:58,186 --> 01:20:58,728 young boys. 611 01:20:59,145 --> 01:20:59,896 And these are reported. 612 01:21:00,397 --> 01:21:02,649 So we already live in an environment 613 01:21:02,649 --> 01:21:05,652 that is dangerous in that relationship, 614 01:21:05,652 --> 01:21:06,319 but here we are 615 01:21:06,319 --> 01:21:08,947 passing laws that will-- 616 01:21:09,948 --> 01:21:10,782 a lot of times they 617 01:21:10,782 --> 01:21:11,950 say we're passing laws 618 01:21:11,950 --> 01:21:13,535 because we want to protect 619 01:21:13,535 --> 01:21:16,538 an unborn child or a fetus, 620 01:21:16,538 --> 01:21:18,373 and I respect that. 621 01:21:18,832 --> 01:21:20,625 But at the same time, we're also 622 01:21:20,625 --> 01:21:21,710 passing laws, I think, 623 01:21:21,710 --> 01:21:23,003 who are protecting predators. 624 01:21:24,129 --> 01:21:25,422 And I once asked a question 625 01:21:25,422 --> 01:21:26,673 of some elected officials. 626 01:21:26,673 --> 01:21:27,340 I said, when you pass 627 01:21:27,340 --> 01:21:28,300 this law, who are you really 628 01:21:28,383 --> 01:21:30,635 protecting your friends, who you know 629 01:21:30,635 --> 01:21:31,386 are out here raping 630 01:21:31,386 --> 01:21:32,971 and pillaging, or 631 01:21:32,971 --> 01:21:33,847 the people that you're 632 01:21:33,847 --> 01:21:35,557 supposed to legitimately protect? 633 01:21:36,391 --> 01:21:38,560 And I think we have to 634 01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:40,687 continue to have that conversation, 635 01:21:41,730 --> 01:21:42,355 because there's-- 636 01:21:42,772 --> 01:21:44,316 I'm firm believer that we have to 637 01:21:44,316 --> 01:21:46,234 protect women's rights. 638 01:21:46,234 --> 01:21:47,902 There's no reason we 639 01:21:47,902 --> 01:21:49,696 should be making laws that 640 01:21:49,696 --> 01:21:50,697 dictate what a woman 641 01:21:50,697 --> 01:21:52,574 should or can or can't 642 01:21:52,574 --> 01:21:53,867 do with their own body. 643 01:21:54,117 --> 01:21:55,410 That is not freedom. 644 01:21:55,410 --> 01:21:56,202 That's not independence. 645 01:21:56,536 --> 01:21:57,704 And that goes against the American 646 01:21:57,704 --> 01:21:58,872 concept, in my opinion. 647 01:21:59,539 --> 01:22:00,373 Exactly, exactly. 648 01:22:00,915 --> 01:22:02,709 And another, we don't know how we're 649 01:22:02,709 --> 01:22:06,004 going to come out post-COVID with 650 01:22:06,004 --> 01:22:07,297 mental health in our youth. 651 01:22:07,756 --> 01:22:08,590 That's another topic. 652 01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:09,090 Absolutely. 653 01:22:11,635 --> 01:22:12,844 We've had an increase. 654 01:22:13,303 --> 01:22:16,890 And to me, one suicide is too much. 655 01:22:17,557 --> 01:22:18,266 That's too many. 656 01:22:19,351 --> 01:22:22,979 So this past summer for our 657 01:22:22,979 --> 01:22:24,481 annual Back to School event, 658 01:22:26,358 --> 01:22:28,443 I had Center Stone set 659 01:22:28,443 --> 01:22:32,113 up a table just for them 660 01:22:32,113 --> 01:22:33,657 to talk to parents and 661 01:22:33,657 --> 01:22:35,158 to follow up with parents. 662 01:22:35,617 --> 01:22:37,702 Because I want to make sure that our 663 01:22:37,702 --> 01:22:39,621 kids are feeling safe, 664 01:22:39,829 --> 01:22:42,874 able to have a conversation with 665 01:22:42,874 --> 01:22:45,251 someone, some adults, 666 01:22:45,251 --> 01:22:45,794 somewhere. 667 01:22:46,711 --> 01:22:47,712 They've lost friends. 668 01:22:47,712 --> 01:22:49,172 They've lost family to COVID. 669 01:22:49,547 --> 01:22:51,549 So we don't know how this 670 01:22:51,549 --> 01:22:55,261 COVID is going to impact 671 01:22:55,470 --> 01:22:56,388 is going to have on our 672 01:22:56,388 --> 01:22:57,597 children, the isolation. 673 01:22:58,848 --> 01:23:01,142 I think still with going to school 674 01:23:01,393 --> 01:23:02,602 and sitting in a 675 01:23:02,602 --> 01:23:04,479 classroom for some is a challenge. 676 01:23:05,563 --> 01:23:07,232 Is it safe to say that 677 01:23:07,232 --> 01:23:09,859 COVID, the last couple of years, 678 01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:11,569 there's no going back to a norm. 679 01:23:12,195 --> 01:23:13,321 This is our new norm. 680 01:23:13,363 --> 01:23:13,905 Exactly. 681 01:23:14,364 --> 01:23:15,532 And we have to figure out how 682 01:23:15,532 --> 01:23:17,617 to thrive and be safe in it. 683 01:23:18,576 --> 01:23:20,954 I wonder, even in 684 01:23:20,954 --> 01:23:22,789 that, I wonder how many, 685 01:23:23,540 --> 01:23:24,416 when we look at the 686 01:23:24,416 --> 01:23:25,583 diversity of our community, 687 01:23:26,418 --> 01:23:28,253 how many therapists, how many 688 01:23:28,253 --> 01:23:29,879 psychologists do we have? 689 01:23:29,879 --> 01:23:32,882 Are there black, brown, or women who 690 01:23:32,882 --> 01:23:34,300 are of other ethnicities? 691 01:23:34,300 --> 01:23:35,927 Because we're not just a 692 01:23:35,927 --> 01:23:36,928 black, white community. 693 01:23:37,721 --> 01:23:38,680 We have Africans. 694 01:23:38,888 --> 01:23:41,599 We have Hispanics from 695 01:23:41,599 --> 01:23:42,892 all different regions. 696 01:23:42,892 --> 01:23:45,145 So we really have a plethora of folks. 697 01:23:45,812 --> 01:23:48,440 And are we really addressing the needs 698 01:23:48,606 --> 01:23:50,608 of the people in the cultures? 699 01:23:51,067 --> 01:23:52,819 Is there anything you want to share? 700 01:23:52,819 --> 01:23:54,863 As we have these conversations. 701 01:23:56,364 --> 01:23:57,699 I would like for 702 01:23:57,699 --> 01:23:59,659 people to just get involved. 703 01:24:00,076 --> 01:24:01,411 Something that I'm working on, 704 01:24:02,871 --> 01:24:04,289 and I don't know when I'm going to be 705 01:24:04,289 --> 01:24:07,167 able to implement this, 706 01:24:07,167 --> 01:24:07,876 but it's been near 707 01:24:07,876 --> 01:24:08,960 and dear to my heart, 708 01:24:09,586 --> 01:24:11,421 which is crime in the 709 01:24:11,421 --> 01:24:12,881 African-American community. 710 01:24:13,798 --> 01:24:14,758 Something that I would 711 01:24:14,758 --> 01:24:16,468 like to do is to start out 712 01:24:16,593 --> 01:24:20,180 with a panel of discussion, 713 01:24:20,513 --> 01:24:23,141 but I like doing things out the box. 714 01:24:24,100 --> 01:24:26,102 I don't like doing the normal things. 715 01:24:26,102 --> 01:24:27,061 I want to have someone 716 01:24:27,061 --> 01:24:29,439 there from the trauma center, 717 01:24:29,564 --> 01:24:31,232 from the funeral home. 718 01:24:31,232 --> 01:24:32,692 I want to have a parent there. 719 01:24:32,692 --> 01:24:34,194 I want to have, I want 720 01:24:34,194 --> 01:24:36,446 to have a real discussion, 721 01:24:37,238 --> 01:24:39,032 but I don't want it to end just there. 722 01:24:39,032 --> 01:24:39,783 A lot of times we 723 01:24:39,783 --> 01:24:40,909 have town hall meetings 724 01:24:41,117 --> 01:24:42,744 and we voice our concerns. 725 01:24:42,952 --> 01:24:44,913 We get up, we testify, we tell all 726 01:24:44,913 --> 01:24:45,997 these great stories. 727 01:24:46,372 --> 01:24:47,791 And then it just sits there. 728 01:24:49,417 --> 01:24:50,835 And what happens after that? 729 01:24:51,753 --> 01:24:53,129 Again, I'm only one person, 730 01:24:53,129 --> 01:24:53,963 but if I can get the 731 01:24:53,963 --> 01:24:55,173 community involved, 732 01:24:55,882 --> 01:24:57,383 the community to share. 733 01:24:57,383 --> 01:24:58,593 And when I say that community, 734 01:24:58,593 --> 01:24:59,511 I'm talking about folks 735 01:24:59,511 --> 01:25:00,720 that live in public housing, 736 01:25:01,262 --> 01:25:03,223 folks that live in a 737 01:25:03,223 --> 01:25:04,224 million dollar homes. 738 01:25:04,224 --> 01:25:05,183 I want to get all these 739 01:25:05,183 --> 01:25:06,392 people together in one room 740 01:25:06,392 --> 01:25:07,602 so we can talk about it. 741 01:25:08,061 --> 01:25:10,480 And then we come up with a plan. 742 01:25:11,689 --> 01:25:12,774 Bring our mayors, 743 01:25:12,774 --> 01:25:13,775 our local politicians, 744 01:25:14,317 --> 01:25:15,902 bring all of those folks in 745 01:25:15,902 --> 01:25:17,070 to have that conversation. 746 01:25:17,487 --> 01:25:18,822 Is it going to happen overnight? 747 01:25:19,072 --> 01:25:20,365 No, it's not going to happen overnight. 748 01:25:21,157 --> 01:25:22,367 But Clark County always 749 01:25:22,367 --> 01:25:23,785 say we're not in Oz anymore. 750 01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:25,286 - No, no. 751 01:25:25,286 --> 01:25:26,871 - It's not where I grew up. 752 01:25:26,871 --> 01:25:28,331 I've been here all my life. 753 01:25:29,249 --> 01:25:30,083 And it is not, when 754 01:25:30,083 --> 01:25:30,583 I'm going to tell you, 755 01:25:30,583 --> 01:25:31,459 I was in the hospital, I 756 01:25:31,459 --> 01:25:32,669 was diagnosed with epilepsy 757 01:25:33,419 --> 01:25:34,045 when I was three. 758 01:25:34,712 --> 01:25:35,505 I was in the hospital. 759 01:25:35,755 --> 01:25:36,589 I was in the basement. 760 01:25:37,465 --> 01:25:37,715 - Basement? 761 01:25:37,966 --> 01:25:38,800 - Yeah, I was in the basement 762 01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:40,176 because black kids could not go. 763 01:25:40,635 --> 01:25:41,636 Black people couldn't go. 764 01:25:42,011 --> 01:25:42,720 If you went to the 765 01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:43,930 hospital and you were admitted, 766 01:25:43,930 --> 01:25:45,473 you were admitted in the basement. 767 01:25:45,473 --> 01:25:46,140 - That's unheard of. 768 01:25:46,641 --> 01:25:46,808 - No. 769 01:25:46,808 --> 01:25:48,268 - I mean, it's not unheard of clearly. 770 01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:49,310 That's crazy. 771 01:25:49,519 --> 01:25:50,979 - No, I remember that. 772 01:25:51,437 --> 01:25:51,980 - Wow. 773 01:25:51,980 --> 01:25:53,147 - Yes, yes. 774 01:25:53,147 --> 01:25:54,774 My mother never had any complaints 775 01:25:54,941 --> 01:25:56,442 in terms of how I was treated. 776 01:25:56,442 --> 01:25:57,527 She didn't have any 777 01:25:57,527 --> 01:25:58,695 complaints about that. 778 01:25:59,487 --> 01:26:01,197 But things have changed, 779 01:26:01,197 --> 01:26:02,782 but then again, things haven't changed. 780 01:26:03,283 --> 01:26:04,367 Things have been covered up. 781 01:26:04,701 --> 01:26:05,243 - Okay. 782 01:26:05,451 --> 01:26:07,245 - So we have to talk about that. 783 01:26:07,537 --> 01:26:09,330 And you talk about Dr. Yazone, 784 01:26:09,330 --> 01:26:10,623 you talk about Rita Fleming, 785 01:26:11,082 --> 01:26:13,251 and you talk about Treva Hodges, 786 01:26:13,251 --> 01:26:15,044 and those are just to name a few, 787 01:26:16,462 --> 01:26:18,298 that are, I call, 788 01:26:18,548 --> 01:26:19,465 they're on the front line 789 01:26:19,549 --> 01:26:22,468 for all people, for people of color. 790 01:26:23,011 --> 01:26:24,554 They're easy to approach. 791 01:26:24,554 --> 01:26:26,264 They're approachable to discuss issues 792 01:26:28,057 --> 01:26:29,851 that even one 793 01:26:29,851 --> 01:26:31,561 individual has a concern about. 794 01:26:32,604 --> 01:26:34,856 How can we get together 795 01:26:34,856 --> 01:26:36,399 and have those conversations? 796 01:26:37,358 --> 01:26:38,151 And sometimes we think, 797 01:26:38,151 --> 01:26:39,110 oh, I'm just one person. 798 01:26:39,652 --> 01:26:40,320 That's okay. 799 01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:41,237 - You can be one person. 800 01:26:41,237 --> 01:26:42,697 - One person can do a lot. 801 01:26:42,697 --> 01:26:43,156 - That's right. 802 01:26:43,573 --> 01:26:45,825 - It's the spark that moves things. 803 01:26:45,825 --> 01:26:47,160 And I love the fact you said, 804 01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:48,411 hey, let's move beyond conversation. 805 01:26:49,203 --> 01:26:50,997 We have to have action plans in place. 806 01:26:51,456 --> 01:26:52,123 And so if we're gonna 807 01:26:52,123 --> 01:26:53,625 address equity at any level, 808 01:26:53,625 --> 01:26:57,211 if we're gonna address the crime levels 809 01:26:57,211 --> 01:26:59,130 that are increasing in key communities, 810 01:26:59,130 --> 01:27:00,131 then how do we address that? 811 01:27:00,548 --> 01:27:02,258 And it's not just about policing. 812 01:27:02,467 --> 01:27:04,177 It is about those who are in the 813 01:27:04,177 --> 01:27:06,554 community owning it. 814 01:27:06,971 --> 01:27:08,389 Having some degree of ownership, 815 01:27:08,389 --> 01:27:08,973 whether you have a 816 01:27:08,973 --> 01:27:10,224 mortgage or you're renting it. 817 01:27:10,558 --> 01:27:11,809 There's different levels of ownership. 818 01:27:12,852 --> 01:27:14,020 And I think the other piece is, 819 01:27:14,020 --> 01:27:15,647 is that we have to look at opportunity. 820 01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:18,274 Why does crime happen? 821 01:27:18,775 --> 01:27:20,526 What are the reasons? 822 01:27:20,526 --> 01:27:21,110 What are the things 823 01:27:21,110 --> 01:27:23,529 causing for things to occur? 824 01:27:23,863 --> 01:27:25,782 And how do we begin to address that 825 01:27:25,782 --> 01:27:26,783 versus just saying, 826 01:27:26,783 --> 01:27:27,533 hey, this is 827 01:27:27,533 --> 01:27:28,618 something we need to police 828 01:27:28,618 --> 01:27:29,619 and somebody needs to go to jail. 829 01:27:30,078 --> 01:27:32,038 I think that has to be a thing too, 830 01:27:32,038 --> 01:27:33,998 because when we live in a community 831 01:27:34,248 --> 01:27:37,335 that is focused on economic growth, 832 01:27:37,377 --> 01:27:39,212 economic means, financial value, 833 01:27:40,171 --> 01:27:40,505 and we have 834 01:27:40,505 --> 01:27:41,547 communities that are ignored. 835 01:27:42,674 --> 01:27:43,925 And we have communities that are 836 01:27:43,925 --> 01:27:44,842 intentionally ignored. 837 01:27:46,260 --> 01:27:48,596 And we have to address that as well. 838 01:27:48,846 --> 01:27:49,597 - Because that's their problem. 839 01:27:49,806 --> 01:27:50,056 - Yes. 840 01:27:50,431 --> 01:27:51,432 - That's not really our problem. 841 01:27:51,432 --> 01:27:52,058 - Yes, when tax 842 01:27:52,058 --> 01:27:52,976 dollars came from everybody. 843 01:27:53,184 --> 01:27:54,310 - That's right, that's right. 844 01:27:54,686 --> 01:27:55,520 And something else I 845 01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:56,396 wanna bring up real quick 846 01:27:56,396 --> 01:28:00,358 is that I served on a policy 847 01:28:01,609 --> 01:28:03,695 that the state of Indiana is working on 848 01:28:03,695 --> 01:28:04,988 called direct service workers. 849 01:28:06,072 --> 01:28:07,198 And direct service 850 01:28:07,198 --> 01:28:07,991 workers, as you know, 851 01:28:08,491 --> 01:28:10,868 are usually, they're like our CNAs 852 01:28:11,202 --> 01:28:12,036 and folks that are 853 01:28:12,036 --> 01:28:13,246 caregivers, even, you know, 854 01:28:13,246 --> 01:28:14,789 I was a caregiver to my mom and 855 01:28:14,789 --> 01:28:15,999 caregiver to my husband. 856 01:28:17,250 --> 01:28:20,753 And caregivers, I'm 857 01:28:20,753 --> 01:28:21,796 paid a lot of money. 858 01:28:22,922 --> 01:28:23,923 If we could get, 859 01:28:24,215 --> 01:28:26,175 if what they're talking about doing 860 01:28:26,384 --> 01:28:29,262 is identifying a 861 01:28:29,262 --> 01:28:31,597 career track, a career path, 862 01:28:31,597 --> 01:28:32,890 but also making sure that 863 01:28:32,890 --> 01:28:33,975 they have the resources. 864 01:28:34,392 --> 01:28:36,310 If a CNA wants to become a nurse, 865 01:28:36,310 --> 01:28:37,562 to make sure that she has those 866 01:28:37,562 --> 01:28:39,147 resources to become a nurse. 867 01:28:39,689 --> 01:28:41,149 Because if we can pull 868 01:28:41,149 --> 01:28:43,192 them up to another level, 869 01:28:45,153 --> 01:28:47,321 because we have more people aging, 870 01:28:47,613 --> 01:28:49,741 we have an aging population as well. 871 01:28:49,741 --> 01:28:50,074 - Yes. 872 01:28:50,575 --> 01:28:52,952 - Okay, now we don't like to put our 873 01:28:52,952 --> 01:28:54,120 folks in nursing homes. 874 01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:54,787 They're trying to keep 875 01:28:54,787 --> 01:28:56,122 folks out of nursing homes. 876 01:28:56,873 --> 01:28:59,375 So if we can get our family members, 877 01:28:59,625 --> 01:29:02,503 if we can take care for our loved ones, 878 01:29:02,503 --> 01:29:04,589 if we can also get our 879 01:29:04,589 --> 01:29:06,758 direct service workers, 880 01:29:08,134 --> 01:29:09,469 if we can get behind them 881 01:29:09,469 --> 01:29:11,137 and the state can pass those policies 882 01:29:11,596 --> 01:29:13,890 to help our direct service workers 883 01:29:14,515 --> 01:29:16,809 to become more self-sufficient, 884 01:29:18,561 --> 01:29:19,687 that would also help 885 01:29:19,687 --> 01:29:21,731 our economy as well. 886 01:29:22,690 --> 01:29:25,526 - We've got a nice, we've 887 01:29:25,526 --> 01:29:26,319 got a lot to think about. 888 01:29:26,319 --> 01:29:27,570 - We've got a lot to think about. 889 01:29:27,570 --> 01:29:28,279 - We've got a lot to work on. 890 01:29:28,571 --> 01:29:29,530 - But that's my day. 891 01:29:29,530 --> 01:29:30,073 - Yes, wow. 892 01:29:30,073 --> 01:29:31,282 - If you ask me, Pam, 893 01:29:31,282 --> 01:29:32,200 what are you doing today? 894 01:29:33,159 --> 01:29:34,827 - That's a long list of things. 895 01:29:34,827 --> 01:29:36,871 - I'm also working on infant mortality. 896 01:29:37,205 --> 01:29:41,751 I was telling you about the local food 897 01:29:42,502 --> 01:29:43,461 purchase the excess 898 01:29:43,461 --> 01:29:45,171 grant that Community Action 899 01:29:45,338 --> 01:29:46,297 just received and 900 01:29:46,297 --> 01:29:47,632 working with BIPOC farmers 901 01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:49,175 and working with black farmers 902 01:29:49,300 --> 01:29:51,552 and working those 20 counties 903 01:29:51,552 --> 01:29:54,055 and getting fresh fruits and 904 01:29:54,055 --> 01:29:55,765 vegetables to those counties, 905 01:29:55,765 --> 01:29:56,474 to those folks that 906 01:29:56,474 --> 01:29:57,642 live in those 20 counties 907 01:29:57,642 --> 01:29:59,852 and that there's only five grants in 908 01:29:59,852 --> 01:30:00,686 the state of Indiana 909 01:30:00,812 --> 01:30:01,562 that Community Action 910 01:30:01,562 --> 01:30:02,897 is the lead agency on. 911 01:30:03,940 --> 01:30:05,900 So if you ask me about that, 912 01:30:05,942 --> 01:30:07,568 I'm also over here working with doulas. 913 01:30:07,568 --> 01:30:10,780 I'm writing a grant to try to get, 914 01:30:11,114 --> 01:30:12,865 I have a couple of doulas 915 01:30:12,865 --> 01:30:14,200 that are gonna be working 916 01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:15,535 with our Head Start families. 917 01:30:15,535 --> 01:30:16,953 I have doulas that's gonna be working 918 01:30:17,411 --> 01:30:20,540 and talking about breastfeeding 919 01:30:20,915 --> 01:30:21,833 and talking about 920 01:30:21,833 --> 01:30:26,295 nutrition and physical activity 921 01:30:26,546 --> 01:30:28,464 and really focusing on 922 01:30:28,464 --> 01:30:30,675 that, the low income families 923 01:30:30,925 --> 01:30:31,926 and making sure that those 924 01:30:31,926 --> 01:30:33,427 women have what they need 925 01:30:33,427 --> 01:30:34,971 and connect them to resources as well. 926 01:30:35,012 --> 01:30:35,888 - How do we get all of 927 01:30:35,888 --> 01:30:37,265 that out there into the ether? 928 01:30:37,682 --> 01:30:38,432 - Ooh. 929 01:30:38,850 --> 01:30:42,186 - Like, I mean, I'm in certain spaces 930 01:30:42,687 --> 01:30:44,438 and I don't always get to hear about 931 01:30:44,438 --> 01:30:45,273 the different programs. 932 01:30:45,940 --> 01:30:47,400 When I do pick up a newspaper, 933 01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:48,359 I don't always hear about 934 01:30:48,359 --> 01:30:49,443 the different new programs 935 01:30:49,652 --> 01:30:52,655 and in Clark and Floyd County, we 936 01:30:52,655 --> 01:30:53,531 really don't have news. 937 01:30:53,865 --> 01:30:54,574 - We don't have news. 938 01:30:54,574 --> 01:30:56,117 - So how do we get that 939 01:30:56,117 --> 01:30:57,577 information out to the people 940 01:30:57,577 --> 01:30:59,245 on an ongoing basis? 941 01:30:59,579 --> 01:31:02,498 - We had over a thousand people, 942 01:31:02,999 --> 01:31:04,458 individuals that attended 943 01:31:04,458 --> 01:31:05,793 the Back to School event, 944 01:31:06,127 --> 01:31:07,545 a thousand, every year 945 01:31:07,545 --> 01:31:08,337 there's more and more. 946 01:31:09,505 --> 01:31:10,339 We went to the media, 947 01:31:10,756 --> 01:31:11,757 our community partners, 948 01:31:12,466 --> 01:31:14,635 we were on TV, radio, 949 01:31:15,303 --> 01:31:16,179 just trying to get that 950 01:31:16,179 --> 01:31:17,054 information out there. 951 01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:19,682 That's because people are 952 01:31:19,682 --> 01:31:21,017 having a difficult time, 953 01:31:21,017 --> 01:31:22,226 hard time with getting 954 01:31:22,226 --> 01:31:25,730 jobs or even retaining the job 955 01:31:26,189 --> 01:31:27,106 because so many people have been home. 956 01:31:27,815 --> 01:31:29,108 It's hard to sit at a desk when you've 957 01:31:29,108 --> 01:31:31,819 been home for a long time. 958 01:31:32,111 --> 01:31:33,279 - That hustle is different now. 959 01:31:33,279 --> 01:31:34,864 - It is, it's a little different, it's 960 01:31:34,864 --> 01:31:35,406 a little different. 961 01:31:35,740 --> 01:31:37,658 So what we do is we use 962 01:31:37,658 --> 01:31:38,534 our community partners, 963 01:31:38,534 --> 01:31:39,785 we use our churches to 964 01:31:39,785 --> 01:31:40,703 try to get the word out. 965 01:31:41,245 --> 01:31:42,955 I just started diabetes class last 966 01:31:42,955 --> 01:31:43,998 week, every Wednesday. 967 01:31:44,707 --> 01:31:45,708 A lot of us, we 968 01:31:45,708 --> 01:31:46,584 still call it the sugar. 969 01:31:46,876 --> 01:31:47,126 - Yeah. 970 01:31:47,543 --> 01:31:48,836 - I don't want to have a late, 971 01:31:49,503 --> 01:31:50,588 she told me she was 972 01:31:50,588 --> 01:31:52,840 diagnosed with diabetes, 973 01:31:53,090 --> 01:31:53,841 but she said, "You know 974 01:31:53,841 --> 01:31:54,759 what I call it, sugar? 975 01:31:54,759 --> 01:31:56,010 I can't say the word diabetes." 976 01:31:56,594 --> 01:31:57,720 - Don't wanna own that disease. 977 01:31:57,720 --> 01:31:59,013 - Don't wanna own it. 978 01:31:59,013 --> 01:31:59,722 - Well, I'm in this already. 979 01:31:59,722 --> 01:32:00,473 - And we're still, we've got people 980 01:32:00,473 --> 01:32:01,307 still, that's okay. 981 01:32:01,599 --> 01:32:02,266 - We don't have to quiet enough. 982 01:32:02,266 --> 01:32:03,392 - Because we can address that. 983 01:32:03,768 --> 01:32:06,687 But how do you, so are you teaching, 984 01:32:07,104 --> 01:32:08,272 and I know we gotta wrap up, 985 01:32:08,481 --> 01:32:09,690 so in that diabetes 986 01:32:09,690 --> 01:32:11,025 class and that sugar class. 987 01:32:11,025 --> 01:32:12,360 - In that sugar class, probably. 988 01:32:12,860 --> 01:32:15,112 - Are we teaching new ways of eating? 989 01:32:15,363 --> 01:32:16,739 - Yes, we are. 990 01:32:17,406 --> 01:32:19,283 And it's not, when I 991 01:32:19,283 --> 01:32:20,284 say I'm having a class 992 01:32:20,493 --> 01:32:21,577 and it's facilitated by 993 01:32:21,577 --> 01:32:22,995 an RN, registered nurse, 994 01:32:23,537 --> 01:32:24,580 when I say I'm having a class, 995 01:32:24,580 --> 01:32:25,790 it's not where she's coming in and 996 01:32:25,790 --> 01:32:26,666 she's lecturing you. 997 01:32:26,874 --> 01:32:27,708 This is interactive. 998 01:32:27,959 --> 01:32:29,377 We're actually doing food demonstration 999 01:32:29,919 --> 01:32:31,963 and we bring in partners to do this. 1000 01:32:31,963 --> 01:32:32,546 - Can I come film that one? 1001 01:32:32,546 --> 01:32:33,464 - You can come and you 1002 01:32:33,464 --> 01:32:34,298 get a little blender. 1003 01:32:35,424 --> 01:32:36,259 I mean, you're getting 1004 01:32:36,259 --> 01:32:38,344 some things to take home. 1005 01:32:38,344 --> 01:32:39,679 Every class that you attend, 1006 01:32:40,054 --> 01:32:41,931 you will get something to take home. 1007 01:32:42,390 --> 01:32:43,891 We have activities that you do. 1008 01:32:43,891 --> 01:32:45,434 We play bingo, you get a game, 1009 01:32:45,685 --> 01:32:47,395 but yet, and still, it's educational. 1010 01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:49,063 If you have free 1011 01:32:49,063 --> 01:32:50,815 diabetes, if you have diabetes, 1012 01:32:50,815 --> 01:32:52,275 or if you're a caregiver 1013 01:32:52,275 --> 01:32:53,734 to someone with diabetes, 1014 01:32:53,734 --> 01:32:54,527 please come out to our 1015 01:32:54,527 --> 01:32:55,820 class at Community Action. 1016 01:32:56,570 --> 01:32:57,363 We start at that class 1017 01:32:57,363 --> 01:32:58,864 every Wednesday at 4.30. 1018 01:32:59,657 --> 01:33:01,867 - So how do I get it out? 1019 01:33:02,243 --> 01:33:02,576 I don't know. 1020 01:33:02,576 --> 01:33:04,328 I think people just call me and say, 1021 01:33:04,328 --> 01:33:05,037 "Pam, what are you doing?" 1022 01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:07,164 Sometimes I don't know where to start. 1023 01:33:07,540 --> 01:33:08,499 - What if they don't know a Pam? 1024 01:33:08,499 --> 01:33:09,166 How do they find you? 1025 01:33:09,417 --> 01:33:10,751 - They can call Community 1026 01:33:10,751 --> 01:33:12,920 Action, just ask for Pam. 1027 01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:13,921 - Just ask for Pam. 1028 01:33:13,921 --> 01:33:14,755 - And they'll say, "Pam, 1029 01:33:14,755 --> 01:33:15,631 the minority health girl," 1030 01:33:15,631 --> 01:33:17,049 and they'll put you through. 1031 01:33:17,341 --> 01:33:18,509 - And we need your help. 1032 01:33:18,509 --> 01:33:19,468 - We need your help, yes. 1033 01:33:19,468 --> 01:33:20,469 - From service to farm. 1034 01:33:20,469 --> 01:33:21,220 So when does the 1035 01:33:21,220 --> 01:33:22,096 farming program launch? 1036 01:33:22,722 --> 01:33:25,308 - That we started, we received our, 1037 01:33:25,308 --> 01:33:27,059 I'm gonna say in four months. 1038 01:33:27,059 --> 01:33:27,560 - In four months? 1039 01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:28,102 - Mm-hmm. 1040 01:33:28,894 --> 01:33:30,604 - You're gonna look for that as well. 1041 01:33:30,896 --> 01:33:31,272 You're gonna look 1042 01:33:31,272 --> 01:33:32,273 for some fresh produce 1043 01:33:32,273 --> 01:33:33,232 here in Clark County. 1044 01:33:33,441 --> 01:33:34,442 - Well, thank you for joining me. 1045 01:33:34,692 --> 01:33:35,985 - Thank you for having me. 1046 01:33:35,985 --> 01:33:36,861 - It's been most informative. 1047 01:33:37,153 --> 01:33:37,862 I hope that if you're 1048 01:33:37,862 --> 01:33:39,113 listening or you get to watch, 1049 01:33:39,864 --> 01:33:40,865 you picked up some information. 1050 01:33:41,073 --> 01:33:41,949 This is specific to 1051 01:33:41,949 --> 01:33:42,783 Clark County, Indiana. 1052 01:33:43,284 --> 01:33:45,119 But if you are watching somewhere else 1053 01:33:45,119 --> 01:33:46,120 or listening somewhere else, 1054 01:33:46,537 --> 01:33:47,580 ask yourself, what are you doing in 1055 01:33:47,580 --> 01:33:48,164 your own community? 1056 01:33:48,581 --> 01:33:49,999 What information do you have? 1057 01:33:49,999 --> 01:33:51,208 What information don't you have? 1058 01:33:51,792 --> 01:33:52,668 Are you not getting it 1059 01:33:52,668 --> 01:33:53,794 because you're not at the table? 1060 01:33:54,337 --> 01:33:55,463 And sometimes we have to 1061 01:33:55,463 --> 01:33:56,714 move out of our comfort zones 1062 01:33:56,881 --> 01:33:59,383 and show up in spaces so that we can 1063 01:33:59,383 --> 01:34:00,176 get the information 1064 01:34:00,468 --> 01:34:00,968 and then bring it 1065 01:34:00,968 --> 01:34:02,595 back to our community. 1066 01:34:03,554 --> 01:34:06,223 I'm with Pam Clark, we're at CASI 1067 01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:07,516 This is your boy, Guelly Guel 1068 01:34:07,725 --> 01:34:08,851 This is "Common Conversations" 1069 01:34:09,018 --> 01:34:10,978 with the Health Equity Story. 1070 01:34:11,645 --> 01:34:12,605 Thank you very much, and 1071 01:34:12,605 --> 01:34:13,272 we'll see you next show.