Nikki McFetrich.
Speaker AName of the book, it's Maya's Birthday Wish.
Speaker BThanks, Nicky, for appearing on the Adventures in the Heart of Children's Book Authors podcast.
Speaker BAs Nikki's mentioned, she's written a children's book, Maya's Birthday Wish, and I really look forward to our conversation.
Speaker BNikki, before we get into the details of your book, I'd love to know, what does it feel like being a children's book author?
Speaker BWhat does it mean to you right now?
Speaker AThe feeling I'm getting used to it because this is so new.
Speaker AThis is such a new journey for me.
Speaker AThis book just got published August of 2025 this year, so I'm just taking it as it comes.
Speaker AIt's very exciting.
Speaker BFantastic.
Speaker BOne of my first guests on the show, she's from New York, and I was looking at her social media and I noticed she didn't have children's book author on her Instagram or Facebook.
Speaker BAnd I said to her, why is that?
Speaker BAnd it was like a light bulb came on.
Speaker BShe just never thought of herself as a children's book author, even though she was a published children's book author.
Speaker BAnd about 15 minutes after we got off our call, she actually sent me an email and said, go check my social media.
Speaker BNow tell us a little bit about the inspiration behind Maya's birthday wish.
Speaker AOf course, my daughter Maya is the actual inspiration of the bug.
Speaker AShe such a special little girl.
Speaker AShe just turned 5, and I wanted to leave something for her.
Speaker ASome type of legacy, Something for her.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AI just didn't know what that looked like.
Speaker AI didn't want to just go to a store and buy her something.
Speaker AHere you go.
Speaker ARemember, Mom?
Speaker AI wanted to create something unique to her.
Speaker AAnd that's where Maya's birthday wish has come about.
Speaker BWow.
Speaker BAnd so when you started to get this whole idea and start putting it together, you got the inspiration, you wrote the story, and then.
Speaker BDid you say now what?
Speaker AYes, absolutely.
Speaker AThat.
Speaker ABecause the story actually came to me in a dream.
Speaker ASo that inspired thought came to me in a dream.
Speaker AGotta write it down.
Speaker ABecause the ending of it is what the whole idea.
Speaker AIdea of the story, the ending is the most special part of it.
Speaker AI didn't want to forget it.
Speaker AI did not trust my memory.
Speaker ASo write everything down.
Speaker AAnd then I just.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ADecided.
Speaker AWell, now what?
Speaker ALet's go get it edited.
Speaker AGot it edited.
Speaker ASent it to the publisher.
Speaker BHere we are.
Speaker BOh, good for you.
Speaker BGood for you.
Speaker BSo I'm interested now that you're a newly minted published children's book author.
Speaker BWhat's your business plan look like for Maya's birthday wish?
Speaker AIt looks grand in my mind.
Speaker AIn my mind it's just going to be the biggest thing.
Speaker AMultiple bugs and merchandise.
Speaker AWe're going to create a whole little.
Speaker AThe name of the business is my storyland.
Speaker ASo I'm thinking it'll just be a place where imagination runs wild, where kids will learn through stories, storytelling, imagination, fun experience, hands on experiences.
Speaker AI have a big picture, so we're going to see if the execution is there.
Speaker ABut in my mind looks really big.
Speaker BAnd it's nice because in today's digital world, you can take it one step at a time.
Speaker BAs long as you're taking that one step, correct?
Speaker AAbsolutely.
Speaker BTerrific.
Speaker BTerrific.
Speaker BTell us a little bit about your book formats because I noticed you have a paperback version and you have a hard copy version.
Speaker BTell us about that.
Speaker BAnd also I'm curious on why you don't have an ebook version.
Speaker ANot yet.
Speaker ADon't have the ebook yet.
Speaker AAnd that is because the whole idea of writing books was to get kids off of the tablets, off of the electronics.
Speaker AI wanted them to actually have a physical book.
Speaker ALet's not only focus everything on digital.
Speaker AOkay, Back to basics.
Speaker AThat's why I started off with just the hardback and the paperback Feast.
Speaker BI noticed you use Amazon to sell both formats.
Speaker BNow you get your hard back copy printed through.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BAnd I also noticed, I think on the back here book, which I have right here is Book Fox Press.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker BYou would order that for in larger quantities, is that correct?
Speaker AIn larger quantities I would go through Ingram as well.
Speaker BOkay, we'll jump back to the publishing side of it in a moment.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BSo you're using Amazon and then ingramsparks fills in all the other retailers.
Speaker ACorrect?
Speaker AYes.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BAnd of course, Amazon doesn't do hard copy children's book.
Speaker BSo that's done through Ingram, also.
Speaker ACorrect.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AIt takes a little bit longer.
Speaker AIf someone were to order the hard copy through Amazon, it'll take it a little bit longer.
Speaker ABut if you order the hard copy through my website, get it to you faster.
Speaker BOkay, great.
Speaker BSo on the back of your book it says Book Fox Press.
Speaker BSo talk to us a little bit about Book Fox Press.
Speaker AOh, they were amazing.
Speaker ARon, who edited the story, really easy to work with.
Speaker AHe gave me my edits in a handful of days.
Speaker AVery fast.
Speaker AThey're awesome.
Speaker AAnd Courtney, who's actually the publisher, she did an amazing job.
Speaker AShe linked me, she connected me to Norizaki who is the illustrator, and she did amazing.
Speaker AAnd yes, we got this book ready to go within a year.
Speaker BFantastic.
Speaker BI've had a couple of guests on who have used Book Fox and.
Speaker BAnd they've all said really good things about them.
Speaker BSo you really enjoyed the process.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AThey made it very easy, especially for a new author such as myself.
Speaker ADidn't know anything about it.
Speaker AThey step by step all was really good.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BAnd so do you think you've got the skill set now?
Speaker BWould you do it differently if you do another book, Would you do things differently?
Speaker AThat is interesting because I have the second book ready to go which I'm going to send to Bookfox Press to get edited.
Speaker ANow here's the thing.
Speaker AI don't know if I want to go the same route.
Speaker AMaybe go more traditional or do self publishing.
Speaker AI'm still weighing my options there.
Speaker ABut I know for sure I will send it to get edited by John from Book Fox.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BThen you'll figure out whether you're going to actually have them do the book formatting.
Speaker BNow, would you use the same illustrator?
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AGotta keep Nora.
Speaker AShe's amazing.
Speaker BShe's good for you and that relationship.
Speaker BBecause you said, I think Book Fox introduced you to Nora.
Speaker BIs that correct?
Speaker AYes.
Speaker BBut you were able to have that relationship separate from Book Fox.
Speaker BIn other words, you could for your second book, you could just go directly to her.
Speaker AThat'll be something I'm learning.
Speaker ASo I'm not sure if that's actually a possibility or if I do have to go through Book Fox.
Speaker ASo I have to learn that.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker ASo we'll see.
Speaker BYeah, I know.
Speaker BThank you for sharing that.
Speaker BBecause that's part of what we're trying to do is help other aspiring book authors understand the process.
Speaker BAnd always understand as you go through from your first book to your second book, may feel more comfortable in your role and you might want to take on more, but depends on the requirements of the book publisher that you're using, correct?
Speaker AYes.
Speaker BOkay, great.
Speaker BHave you just used ingramsparks to order large quantities of Maya's Birthday Wish or have you sourced other printing services that do a larger quantity?
Speaker ACurrently it's just ingramsparks.
Speaker ABut I am looking for different avenues.
Speaker AAlways trying to find different ways.
Speaker AAlways have options B, C and D. So I am looking through other sources as well.
Speaker BHad a guest on from Oklahoma.
Speaker BHer name is Charlotte Glade.
Speaker BEpisode 23.
Speaker BShe wrote a book called Storm Trucks.
Speaker BCharlotte Glaze put me onto a company that she did her hard copy with and it's called madeinchina.com and she had them print.
Speaker BI think she had to have four to 500 copies printed.
Speaker BBut she said the quality was awesome.
Speaker BAnd she said the pricing was out of this world, very attractive.
Speaker BAnd she said even the freight to bring it over was still worked out extremely well for her.
Speaker BAnd because of that, we actually took our main character in our book, Caboose.
Speaker BSo the name of one of our books is Adventures of Caboose the Rocky Mountain Bear.
Speaker BAnd so actually, thanks to Charlotte, we had Caboose made up and we used the company madeinchina.com because they'll just about do anything.
Speaker AThat's interesting because I was thinking about doing a pledged version of Mayan.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AMadeinchina.com okay, perfect.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker BLike I said, Charlotte's experience was good.
Speaker BOur experience was good.
Speaker BThe thing is, they're a website that houses all these different type of manufacturers, so you still have to go through and do your research.
Speaker BBut they were very professional.
Speaker BWe ordered a sample first.
Speaker BWe had to pay for that, but it was quite reasonable and we could see the quality of work we were getting.
Speaker BAnd I think Charlotte said she ordered samples of her hard copy book from two different companies and then she decided which one to go with.
Speaker AOh, I love that.
Speaker AExcellent.
Speaker BAnyways, thought I'd just share that with you.
Speaker ANo, I appreciate it.
Speaker AAnd we love options.
Speaker BNo problem.
Speaker BI looked at your website and Maya Storyland.
Speaker BSo I love that.
Speaker BSo like you said, you have this aspirations of building out Maya's Storyland, who does your website design, for starters.
Speaker AOh, gosh.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker ASo I'm doing it.
Speaker BOh, hey, good for you.
Speaker AAnd let's say I'm trying to do it.
Speaker AWork in progress.
Speaker AI'm learning everything is on the job.
Speaker ATraining.
Speaker AI'm learning every aspect.
Speaker AI'm trying to do it.
Speaker BYou mentioned you've already written the second book and now you're just in the process of getting it edited and published.
Speaker BWhen I looked at your website, and I have it actually on my iPad in front of me, I can see you have other ideas.
Speaker BShare some of your vision with us.
Speaker AOther ideas.
Speaker ASuch ads.
Speaker ABecause it could be anything.
Speaker BSo now, right now, if we go to your website primarily, we can purchase your book.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker BIn both paperback and hardcover or just hardcover.
Speaker ABoth.
Speaker ABoth options.
Speaker BOkay, great.
Speaker BThe way I read your website, you seem to have other ideas.
Speaker BLike it says, other.
Speaker BI think it.
Speaker BWhat did you say?
Speaker BProducts.
Speaker AWe have a couple of shirts available now.
Speaker ABeanies are on the way for you.
Speaker BSo you've done some T shirts.
Speaker ADone the T shirts.
Speaker AAnd that's part as part of our giveaway.
Speaker ABuy the book.
Speaker AAnd then I'll include a free T shirt.
Speaker BThat's great.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BOne of our guests, Cody Bogart, I had talked to, as she was telling me, she wrote a couple of books.
Speaker BShe was a helicopter pilot with the armed forces, and now she's retired from that.
Speaker BAnd she's written three children's books.
Speaker BAnd she has a brand called Hilo Girls.
Speaker BIt's a helicopter pilot with a.
Speaker BA female with the helmet.
Speaker BIt's really cool looking logo.
Speaker BBut what she did is she was telling me to help her support her book publishing business.
Speaker BShe designed these T shirts, and the margins are better for her, and she said it.
Speaker BIt helps offset the costs for continuing on with her books.
Speaker BSo I'm glad to see you come up with the T shirt idea.
Speaker AOh, yes.
Speaker AOh, yes.
Speaker ABecause everybody needs a T shirt and then free advertising.
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker AOh, well, that's really good idea to offset the cost because I started crunching numbers and yes, the margins with the apparel.
Speaker ADefinitely.
Speaker BYou talked about at the beginning about your daughter being the inspiration, and actually Maya is your daughter's name and.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker BWhen you got into thinking about becoming a children's book author, was there a specific person or event besides your daughter that motivated you to say, you know what, Nikki?
Speaker BI can be a children's book authority.
Speaker BWas there someone or some event that convinced you that was possible?
Speaker ANot really.
Speaker AI think I just had a passion for writing ever since I was a little girl.
Speaker AI wanted to leave something for Maya, but I wanted it to be creative.
Speaker AOkay, let's write her song.
Speaker ABecause I thought it was gonna be a song at first, but then now the story came to mind, and I feel like this story could help a lot of children worldwide.
Speaker ALet's make life more simple.
Speaker ALet's have joy and fun and play outside and all the little things.
Speaker AGet off the tablet.
Speaker AThat was my idea going into all of this.
Speaker ALet's encourage reading, family, all the things in the book.
Speaker BTerrific.
Speaker BTalk to us about Maya in your character development.
Speaker BTalk to us.
Speaker BIs Maya in the book very similar to Maya the person?
Speaker AAbsolutely.
Speaker BWhat are the similarities?
Speaker AMaya in the book is about three years old, and she is very curious, and she wants to do things her way.
Speaker ASame as my daughter.
Speaker AShe's five, going on 15, and if she has a problem, a dilemma, she's going to work her way through it.
Speaker AShe may ask for help, but then she's going to sit down.
Speaker AIn the book, dad says, okay, you have this dilemma.
Speaker AYou need to create your wish, figure out what you want, draw it, be creative about it, solve your Own problem.
Speaker AThat's exactly how my girl is.
Speaker BExcellent.
Speaker BAnd I see in the book Maya's mom and dad have a big influence on Maya.
Speaker BAnd I love how you've incorporated the birthday games into the book.
Speaker BTalk to us a little bit about Maya's mom and dad and then about the birthday games.
Speaker AMaya's mom and dad, I. E. Me and my husband, we.
Speaker ASo we, we're trying to instill just simple and gratitude into our child.
Speaker AWe don't want to promote a bunch of things, a bunch of materialism, things we don't know.
Speaker ANot about that in birthday parties.
Speaker AShe just had a birthday party.
Speaker AAnd you know what they did?
Speaker AThey had a jumper, they had water balloons and water guns and they had a ball.
Speaker ASo easy.
Speaker AFun.
Speaker AAnd we're getting away from that as a society.
Speaker AIt's really.
Speaker AIt's scary.
Speaker BYes, I hear you loud and clear.
Speaker BWas any of the book based on your own childhood experiences?
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AOh, you did mention the games.
Speaker AGames.
Speaker AMy friends and I would always play the games.
Speaker AAnd I did go back to traditional games when I was growing up.
Speaker ACops and robbers.
Speaker AWe played hide and go seek.
Speaker AWe did drawings, pictionary, things like that.
Speaker AThose are pretty good games.
Speaker ALet's put them in this book.
Speaker BIt's fun when you can incorporate not only Maya's childhood, but your own childhood memories.
Speaker BDefinitely fun.
Speaker BAnd that's what I wish that for us to convey to aspiring children's book authors is, you know what?
Speaker BNever be afraid to go back and dip into your own childhood.
Speaker AYes, absolutely.
Speaker BAnd so talk to us about your theme.
Speaker BThis is.
Speaker BI know this is your first book.
Speaker BSo talk to us about how you came up with this whole idea and used it to build the theme for your book.
Speaker AMy whole thing was simplicity and getting kids off the computers.
Speaker AAnd that is still going to be my crusade from now until I don't know how long.
Speaker ALong as I'm alive.
Speaker AThat's gonna be my thing.
Speaker AThat's gonna be my thing.
Speaker AThere's just too much.
Speaker AI have a nephew who is so addicted to his iPad, it's.
Speaker AYou take it away from him.
Speaker AHe doesn't know what to do.
Speaker AIt's almost.
Speaker AHe's going through withdrawal.
Speaker ACan't have that.
Speaker AWe gotta get the kids outside.
Speaker AGotta get em more creative because their imagination, they're losing their imagination.
Speaker ABecause I can see these kids now learn through observation.
Speaker AAnd I'm just a lot of kids, they would rather be on their phone, their devices.
Speaker AYou're not.
Speaker AYou're not being creative.
Speaker AYou're losing your.
Speaker BShould I Couldn't agree with you more.
Speaker BMy oldest granddaughter was the inspiration behind our first children's book, and she co authored it with me.
Speaker BAnd then my middle granddaughter and my oldest granddaughter helped co author our second book.
Speaker BSo we've definitely been getting them involved.
Speaker BNikki.
Speaker BAnd it's not inexpensive to bring a children's book into the world.
Speaker BSo we actually wrote.
Speaker BWe've written 38 stories in the Adventures of Caboose, the Rocky Mountain Bear.
Speaker BAnd all five of my grandchildren have been involved in writing one or two of the stories.
Speaker BAnd what we did, which might be fun with your daughter, is I had them record the audiobooks in about half of our books.
Speaker AOh, wow.
Speaker AThat is super cool family.
Speaker BSo that I love it.
Speaker BSomething Maya might love doing with you.
Speaker AOh, yeah.
Speaker AShe would eat that up.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAnd to your point, it creates that creativity.
Speaker BBecause the beautiful thing about storytelling, not only storytelling, because I say to people, you know what?
Speaker BAnd we have activity sheets where people can go to our website and print them off and write their own stories, draw their own stories, but I always say it to people.
Speaker BAlso, if you've got a child like you're talking about, I think your nephew, and he's always on his iPad, you know what?
Speaker BMaybe what you do is get them to do a video as a short story.
Speaker BSo you trigger them and say, I'm not sure what your nephew's name is, but say, oh, you know, wouldn't it be fun if we went out in the forest?
Speaker BYour nephew is possibly with you being a storyteller, maybe see if he could.
Speaker BHe would do a video.
Speaker BOr from that standpoint, he still got his hands on that iPad, but he's doing something more creative.
Speaker AHe's only seven, so there's some time to turn it around.
Speaker ABut he's very.
Speaker AHe's obsessed with that thing.
Speaker BTalk to us about the central teaching or lesson that you're trying to convey through your book.
Speaker AThat family, imagination, simplicity, play matters.
Speaker AThings do not matter, because I try to tell so many people.
Speaker AYou can collect all the things, all the presents, all that you want, but at the end of the day, you cannot take it with you.
Speaker AWhen God calls us home, you can't take it with you.
Speaker AYou need to create the memories.
Speaker AYou need to spend time with your loved ones, your family.
Speaker ALet's value that.
Speaker AThat's what I'm trying to, through storytelling and children's book, try to convey that message.
Speaker BI love that.
Speaker BI love that.
Speaker BI love that you're sharing with your daughter.
Speaker BBecause you know what?
Speaker BI. I find that with My grandchildren.
Speaker BIt just started with one adventure with my oldest granddaughter and all these adventures we shared together.
Speaker BEventually it just turned into all these stories.
Speaker BLike you said, it takes you away from being in front of a screen.
Speaker BYou're actually.
Speaker BAnd then with us actually turning them into audiobooks again.
Speaker BIt gets them to learn to read from iPad.
Speaker BYou turn in teleprompter, but then they get to read the stories they've helped write.
Speaker BDefinitely a lot of fun.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd so do you see Maya playing a role in helping you write some of your stories?
Speaker AYeah, I would love that.
Speaker AAlready she's telling me, mom, how about me do this?
Speaker AHow about you write this story and all this, like, oh, okay, give me a second.
Speaker AShe's giving me the ideas.
Speaker BIt's funny you should say that, Nikki, because my oldest granddaughter, when we started getting this idea to write our first book, she said, papa, can we go and buy a journal?
Speaker BAnd I said, okay, sure.
Speaker BSo we went to a farmer's market, we bought a journal, we wrote our first book story.
Speaker BAnd then she said, oh, I got all these ideas, just like Maya, your daughter.
Speaker BAnd so we ended up writing all of these titles to the next stories down.
Speaker BWe had a shopping list that I'm not sure if we'll ever.
Speaker BI won't be around in this lifetime to see them all come to light.
Speaker BBut at least we wrote all these down and.
Speaker BAnd turned some of them into audio stress.
Speaker BSo it's amazing.
Speaker AI love that.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BSo get you and Maya just write down the ideas.
Speaker AWe're gonna do it.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BTalk to me about your writing process.
Speaker BGive us some idea.
Speaker BYou said you wrote your second book, so take us through not only how you wrote your second book, but think back to your first book and tell us what may have changed from when you wrote your first book to writing your second book.
Speaker AInteresting.
Speaker AThe first book was.
Speaker AIt was so fast, that process.
Speaker AExtremely fast.
Speaker AWhen I came to the second book, I had this idea and then I started writing it.
Speaker ABut then it takes longer.
Speaker ATo me, this process took longer with me writing with me writing it, because now I'm all very picky.
Speaker AIt takes longer.
Speaker ASo I can only imagine what John is going to think.
Speaker ASo, yeah, I've been working on the second one.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AIt took a little more time this time.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AMuch longer.
Speaker ABut process still the same.
Speaker AIt's just this one.
Speaker AI'm more.
Speaker AI don't like that.
Speaker ALet's switch this.
Speaker ASo I became my own editor.
Speaker BYour first one was more spontaneous and.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker BAnd the second one maybe overthought it.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI can say then yes to.
Speaker AI haven't sent it in yet because I'm thinking I'm still trying to perfect it, but we're gonna see.
Speaker BIt's funny you should mention that because the other day I was talking to a guest and we were talking about is better than perfect.
Speaker AOh, I like that.
Speaker AYeah, I like that.
Speaker AThat is better than perfect.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BBecause we were just talking that if you work for perfection, generally that's what stops most aspiring children's book authors is they never finish.
Speaker AThat is.
Speaker AThat is true.
Speaker AActually, yes.
Speaker ADone is better.
Speaker AI'm going to write that.
Speaker AI'm going to steal that one.
Speaker BYeah, you're more than welcome to it because sure, it wasn't my original quote.
Speaker BI'm sure I got it from the back of a cereal box or cover sticker or something like that.
Speaker AOh, yes, it's so true.
Speaker AThat's very true.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker BI'm also curious, and you, if you want to think about your first book and your second book, I'm curious, besides your personal experience, did you conduct any research now into your second book?
Speaker ANot even a little bit.
Speaker BThe research is not holding you back.
Speaker AIt is not.
Speaker ASo I'm doing more research into the process.
Speaker AI'm trying to learn everything I can about the literary world because it's new to me.
Speaker ABut as far as researching on my book, just pulling it out my brain and just keep down and keep going.
Speaker BIt's fun talking to someone who's written and published their first book and now they're working on their second book.
Speaker BTry and take us back.
Speaker BSo think, before you actually had your first book published, what did you have in mind as success?
Speaker BWhat did success look like to you?
Speaker BAnd after you publish your book, what changed?
Speaker BOr what has changed?
Speaker ABefore publishing, success looked like the Dr. Seuss empire.
Speaker AOkay, Dr. Seuss, all right, has stood the test of time, man.
Speaker AIn the children's book world, Dr. Seuss, to me, is everything.
Speaker ASo reality sets in.
Speaker AOh, it's hard and very hard, very competitive.
Speaker ABut you just gotta stay focused and remember your why.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AMy why is Maya.
Speaker APlus, I'm gonna do my part to change the world just a little bit.
Speaker AGet us more, bring us back to simpler times.
Speaker BI was saying to the other day, the neat thing about children is they're a renewable resource.
Speaker BAnd because right now it sounds like we're both writing for about a 4 to 10 year old age group.
Speaker BIs that correct?
Speaker AMine's a little bit younger, maybe about three to eight.
Speaker BThree to eight.
Speaker BSo yeah.
Speaker BSo whether it's three to eight or four to ten.
Speaker BThe beautiful thing about it is that there's every day there's more three year olds or four year olds coming into the world.
Speaker BAnd sure they leave, they get older, but you know, you just keep, we just keep replenishing this incredible resource.
Speaker BSo as a children's book author, and that's why I think to your point, Nikki, that's why Dr. Seuss has stood the test of time, because he knew he was always going to get a new audience every day.
Speaker AThat's true.
Speaker BAnd that's what I'm trying to convey to the all children's book authors is remember, your book is evergreen.
Speaker BIt's going to last forever.
Speaker BBecause there's always going to be birthday parties.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker BAnd there's always going to be birthday wishes.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker BHow do you envision the success now that you know about this whole book publishing, the method of doing it and getting your children's book published?
Speaker BHow do you envision your next book, the success for your next book and what are your aspirations for that?
Speaker AThe next book?
Speaker AThe next book, I feel it may surpass Maya's birthday wish because without giving it all away, it's going to be a Christmas book.
Speaker AI think that's going to be a big one.
Speaker BCool.
Speaker BBut we won't reveal your whole idea.
Speaker BFolks will have to wait.
Speaker AThe thing is, I don't think I've ever seen it done before, so I'm excited about that.
Speaker ABut that's the idea, just to keep growing, keep building and just not stopping because every day is a new day, an opportunity to get better.
Speaker ASo I'm working on.
Speaker BAs you build out your social media and as you build out your website, how do you see the role of those changing for you in launching your next book?
Speaker ASocial media is such a huge animal.
Speaker BIsn't that the truth?
Speaker AIt is.
Speaker AIt requires so much attention, so much.
Speaker ABut you need it.
Speaker ASo I might actually have to get some money on that because you definitely need it to increase your audience, increase your visibility, increase your sales.
Speaker ABut definitely need to use social media to my benefit for sure.
Speaker BAs, as you developed your book, talk to us about, have you done any events yet or markets or that kind of thing?
Speaker ANot yet.
Speaker AIn process.
Speaker AYeah, in the process of doing all.
Speaker AI just came back from North Carolina to do some in store marketing.
Speaker AIt's very hard again, very hard to get into these places but I know is my fuel there.
Speaker ANo, their rejections.
Speaker AOh, I'm sorry, we can't do that right now.
Speaker AOkay, on to the Next, the shop next door will have me there.
Speaker ASo not yet as far as in store, any book signings, things like that, but on the horizon.
Speaker BIt's interesting you should say that because I think all of us sometimes think of just bookstores.
Speaker BWhen we first started out, I actually found a list of all the independent bookstores.
Speaker BAnd I thought, okay, I'll reach out to all these independent bookstores.
Speaker BAnd what happened was someone said, because our book is called the Adventures of Caboose the Rocky Mountain Bear.
Speaker BAnd they said, have you ever thought about the shops in the hotels in the Rocky Mountains?
Speaker BAnd I thought, oh, no, I never thought about that.
Speaker BAnd so I reached out to the Fairmont chain who's in the Rocky Mountains, and I said, oh, would you be interested?
Speaker BAnd they said, absolutely.
Speaker AOh, wow.
Speaker BSo they actually placed two orders already and they sold out of their first order in two or three weeks.
Speaker BAnd then they placed a second order.
Speaker BAnd I was just flabbergasted that that would happen.
Speaker BSo I'm just trying to say, because I was thinking about your book with the birthday wishes is there might be shops that actually I think there's those party stores or stuff like that.
Speaker AAnd I was thinking bakeries as well.
Speaker BGreat idea.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo that's all I guess I'm saying to share with our listeners is just don't think traditional bookstores.
Speaker BSometimes if you've got a special book like Maya's Birthday Wish, whether it's a party store or Nikki just said bakeries.
Speaker BWow, what a great idea.
Speaker BAnd bakeries, you know, because even with your next book coming out, there's all these Christmas stores and pop up Christmas.
Speaker AOh, yes, that's the plan.
Speaker BDefinitely have some opportunities there.
Speaker BDo you have any markets in your area that you've been thinking about going to or what's your thought process being there?
Speaker AYes.
Speaker ASo I do have a couple of applications in for our local flea markets.
Speaker ASo we're gonna see hopefully in the next few weeks during the holidays can get into one of them.
Speaker ABut yeah, we're just still word of mouth, tell everybody about the book.
Speaker AAnd a lot of people are like minded as myself, they're just, yeah, the kids need to be more creative.
Speaker AYeah, they'll buy a book and not just me striking up a conversation like, it's everywhere.
Speaker AThere's opportunity everywhere.
Speaker AThat's why I try to tell people in different areas of business, we're just trying to tell them there's opportunity everywhere.
Speaker BI want to pick up on that advice for aspiring authors.
Speaker BSo someone who's thinking, oh, I got this great idea, but I just don't know where to start.
Speaker BWhat would you say to aspiring children's book authors?
Speaker AFunny that you mentioned.
Speaker AI was talking to a girl today, a dental hygienist, and she says, oh, that's so cool.
Speaker AYou inspired me to write my own book.
Speaker AYes, just do it.
Speaker ATake the words from Nike.
Speaker AJust do it right.
Speaker AEven if you were to write a page a day, that's.
Speaker AIt just starts.
Speaker AThat's all you have to do.
Speaker AI just recommend it just starts ideas.
Speaker ABrainstorm some ideas.
Speaker AThat can be day one, day two, let's get a couple of characters.
Speaker AJust start.
Speaker BAnd the beauty about children's books is they're generally between 500 and a thousand words.
Speaker AReally?
Speaker BIt's not like you're writing the great next novel.
Speaker BIf you were saying, Nikki, doing your second book, you'd be a little more critiquish for yourself.
Speaker BBut.
Speaker AYes, but that's.
Speaker AYes, that is the word.
Speaker BI'm still talking about 5, 500 to a thousand words.
Speaker ABecause to me, especially in Maya's birthday, which there's different levels.
Speaker AIt's not just little girl trying to.
Speaker AOh my gosh, what am I gonna wish for today?
Speaker AIt's layers to my book.
Speaker ASome people catch it, some people don't.
Speaker AIt's okay.
Speaker ABut there's different, different things I'm trying to touch on in 25 pages.
Speaker ASo that's where I think my over critical self comes to play.
Speaker AAs far as my second book, because I want, I have a short time to instill something in these little children.
Speaker AI gotta try to do it as quickly as I can.
Speaker BSo right now you think you've got too much content?
Speaker ANo, I think actually it's perfect.
Speaker AI feel like it's pretty, I feel like it's pretty good.
Speaker AOh, good.
Speaker BDon't let me, don't let me.
Speaker AIf I read it now, it's gonna.
Speaker BBe like encouragement for readers.
Speaker BI'm curious, why should someone buy Maya's birthday wish?
Speaker ATo promote family values, promote memories, creativity.
Speaker AYou want your kids to grow into not what is the word.
Speaker AYou don't want them to be so greedy or selfish.
Speaker AJust let them focus on the things that truly matter.
Speaker AAnd that's what I'm trying to promote in this book.
Speaker BThat's right, family like you've got, like I said to you, the mom and dad play such a strong role in your book.
Speaker BAnd then all of her friends throughout the book.
Speaker BAnd that's so neat.
Speaker BAnd I think even I saw she has a pet dog.
Speaker AYeah, it's Coco.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo all of those family type friendship rules are quite strong in your book, so I love that.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AAnd then I believe one.
Speaker AYeah, one of her wishes was to of course get the unicorn, but where did she want to go?
Speaker AShe wanted to go visit her grandmother.
Speaker ASo see, that's what I'm just she's wishing could be with family.
Speaker ASo I love it.
Speaker AYeah, that was the whole idea.
Speaker BFantastic.
Speaker BFinal thoughts.
Speaker BIs there anything you'd like to share that.
Speaker BIs there anything I didn't ask you and you said, oh, geez, I wish Rick would have asked me that question?
Speaker ANo, your questions were I wasn't ready.
Speaker ANo, I think pretty much we covered about everything.
Speaker ANo, I think we did pretty good.
Speaker BOkay, great.
Speaker BI appreciate that.
Speaker BNikki, thank you so much for being a guest on the Adventures in the Heart of Children's Book Authors Podcast.
Speaker BYour generosity of time, your insights will definitely help benefit aspiring authority authors and readers.
Speaker BAnd we promise to provide our audience with links to Nikki's social media and her website.
Speaker BAnd if you've enjoyed the episode, please hit the subscribe button to listen to future episodes.
Speaker BAnd feel free to share this episode with anyone inspired by or who enjoys hearing about Nikki and her children's book, Maya's Birthday Wish.
Speaker BThanks, Nick.
Speaker AThank you so much.