>> Speaker A: M.

>> Jonathan: You guys out there that just hit play. You're tuning into

a fresh new Memorial

Day weekend episode

of Chasing Birdies. My man.

>> RB: JP what's shakin, bacon dude?

>> Jonathan: It's like it's here.

>> Jonathan: And I tell you what, the weather this week

feels like fall. It's ridiculous.

>> RB: Yeah, that's great. Uh, give me this

cookie. Cut this for the rest of the year,

and I'm in.

>> Jonathan: Yeah, it's. It's a little odd, but,

um, you know, naturally this whole week's been like in the

50s and a lot of rain, so.

>> Jonathan: Yeah.

>> Jonathan: Ah, you know, kind of messes up the golf plans a little bit, but

nonetheless, we're here. We're doing it.

>> RB: Very Seattle esque.

>> Jonathan: Yeah, exactly. I feel like that's, you

know, happening right now in a lot of places.

>> Jonathan: But, uh, in Florida.

>> Jonathan: Not in Florida. Not in Florida.

Today's episode's a good one, though. We got Billy Dratty

joining us here on the pod, uh, which we'll get into

that a little bit later. But, uh, it's. It's

incredible.

>> RB: It's really cool. Um, again, I'm

excited for everyone to listen to the Billy Dratty episode.

Owner of Summit Golf Brands, which is B

drat 0 restriction, fairway and

green. And there's a women's brand that

we speak about on the podcast, um,

as well. But, man, there's been a lot

to cover over the last, you know, six

days. Uh, we've had the PGA Championship, we've had

game sevens in the NHL, uh, the

NBA. Is it the NBA

Conference Finals?

>> Jonathan: Yeah, it's kicking off.

>> RB: Yeah, it's kicked off this week already, honestly.

>> Jonathan: So, yeah, we got the Pacers and the Knicks going at it

and Thunder and the Minnesota Timberwolves. Man, it's

actually a pretty good final four for the NBA. And

you know, for those of you that care, I do have the Pacers winning it

all. And I picked that a couple of weeks ago, threw a little

cash on it. So hopefully we, uh, we ride that horse in.

Because God knows the golf bets this.

>> Jonathan: Past weekend were not awful.

Awful.

>> RB: Missed the boat by, um, a long shot.

Um, who did you end up taking?

>> Jonathan: I ended up taking jt.

Missed cut. I ended up throwing some money on

Oberg. Missed cut. And

then for whatever God awful reason

on. I think it was Saturday

morning. I know it was Friday.

I live bet homa. And,

uh, you know. Cause he was kind of doing it a little bit and I'm like, well, this

cat, he's been fighting it all year. I mean, he's got the two

way miss going and whatnot. So I was thinking maybe he's got some

momentum and then, you know, talk

me into live betting. Bryson,

phenomenal bet. I mean, in theory, because theory,

if.

>> RB: Anyone else is in the lead other than Scotty Scheffler,

I feel like we're walking around, we're walking away with

a couple, uh, hundred extra bucks.

>> Jonathan: Yeah. But you know, the thing of it is, is Bryson on

Sunday could not make a putt. And

on Saturday he finished the last.

>> Jonathan: What, two or three holes, three over par.

>> Jonathan: So, you know, he would have been right in it when, even when

Scotty was hanging around at 10 under, uh, had he

completed the round on Sunday. But nonetheless, no

dubs for the boys this weekend. It's funny, my dad texts

me and. Because now he knows, like, I'm like, you know,

betting golf. Like, yeah, like it's not like

I just started betting golf, but, but recently with my

fortunes, I've been more inclined to bet golf.

And uh, he's like, any luck this weekend,

rb?

>> Speaker A: No.

>> Jonathan: All my boys missed the cut and

Bryson, uh, didn't get it done. But it was kind

of, in my opinion,

Thursday's round, watched a little bit of it, uh,

Friday's round, watch some of it. Had it on.

Trying to get into it a little bit. Wasn't, um, that

great. I was happy to see Johnny Vegas on top.

Um, but outside of that storyline, it was

kind of boring, man.

>> Speaker A: I.

>> Jonathan: It just kind of wasn't great until Saturday

and Sunday.

>> RB: How about this whole Rory McElroy thing with the non

conforming driver on Wednesday?

Did you see this? I did non conforming

driver on Wednesday. Same driver he used at the

Masters. Same exact one.

And did not do any media availability,

I believe from Wednesday to Sunday. So people

are a little upset. I don't know if you saw that on social media, but

there's, there's a lot of media personalities out there that

uh, are not happy because he's not talking.

Is he afraid of the questions from the Masters? He

used that same driver. So what, what

do you do now?

>> Jonathan: I mean, I don't

know. You know, in some respect I don't blame him

because he's in a major tournament and he

doesn't want that to be a distraction.

>> RB: But on the other hand, he's the face the PGA Tour.

>> Jonathan: Yeah.

>> Speaker A: Right.

>> RB: You got to do it.

>> Speaker A: Uhhuh.

>> Jonathan: Uh-huh. Right.

>> RB: Listen, bud, there's things I don't want to do. I do.

>> Jonathan: There's a lot of things I don't want to do, and I do them.

>> RB: I.

>> Jonathan: So it's like you just got to do it.

>> RB: Yeah, just do it. Like Nike's like,

oh, dude, the new Js.

>> Jonathan: The new Js bookmark where we're at with Roy. But

the new Jaybirds came in this past weekend.

>> Jonathan: You get your pair?

>> RB: You. Not yet. Not yet.

>> Speaker A: Oh.

>> Jonathan: Ah, they're sick. Supposed to add 10

yards to the.

>> RB: Ball and to the drive.

>> Jonathan: Little click and click, click, turn.

>> RB: Yep.

>> Jonathan: Bad.

>> RB: So I feel like Nike, um,

did a nice little advertisement on, on,

on, uh, Scotty Scheffler, which was funny, but also

our, um, friend Natalie

Sheehan from, uh, Pelican had a good

one that said from jail to Quail.

I mean, you talk about how funny would that have been

if somebody would have posted from jail to Quail?

>> Jonathan: Yeah, that's actually hilarious.

>> RB: So, uh, I thought that was hilarious that Natalie,

uh, posted that, uh, as a, as a quote. And,

um.

>> Jonathan: Okay, outside of Scotty Scheffler winning, who were

you rooting for?

>> RB: Well, financially. I was rooting for.

>> Jonathan: I know who you were. Financially. Oh, yeah, I forgot about

him. He missed the cut, too.

>> RB: Um, and then I took

Rory, which I heard somebody the other

day. Rory had zero chance of winning that event.

Not because he's not talented, not because. It's

just there's so much from the, uh, the Masters that

happened.

>> Jonathan: Yeah.

>> RB: And then I took the Bryson thing, like, um, you said.

I kind of jumped on that opportunity when he made double on

Saturday. I, um, liked the odds. I

thought that. I didn't obviously think that,

uh, Scheffler would go on a tear on

Saturday and really separated himself, but he did.

So, um.

>> Jonathan: He did.

>> RB: Needless to say, um, I owe you some money,

uh, because I had you sliding some money on the table to

you to place a bed over there for me and this, that and

the other. So,

um, I appreciate you, man.

>> Jonathan: No, it's, it's a pleasure. It's like, you know,

it's friends helping friends. That's what it comes down to.

>> RB: So let's get into today's episode. Uh,

Billy Dratty, owner, Summit Brands.

Couple brands that you guys have heard of be

Dratty, which I really, I really like their,

their product. It's a cool product. It's a comfortable

product. Um, zero

restriction, a lot of rain gear. But they're also coming out with some

forward thinking pieces and, and

fashion forward pieces that are, are nice layering

things. And then fairway and green. And then, like

I mentioned the other brand that we will get into on the

episode.

>> Jonathan: Well, Billy cracked a code with the.

>> Jonathan: Perspiration and the sweat lingering smell.

>> RB: Uh, somebody was just talking about this other day. Dude.

>> Jonathan: Well, that was us.

>> RB: No, uh, on top of us. Which is like, is this

really a thing?

>> Jonathan: Who's on top of us?

>> Jonathan: What?

>> Jonathan: Yeah, I'm telling you, it is a thing because it's

very noticeable to me. And, and, and I don't

like sweat profusely. I'm not like Steve Pering out there

dripping wet. But at the end of the day, I do get a little

warm. Um, and Billy Dratty

cracked a code. He tells all about these performance

gears and what his opinion is on that

in the future. So I'm not going to spoil it.

>> RB: Let's roll it on over to Billy

Dratty live from his car.

>> Jonathan: Here we go.

All right, you guys tuning in. Today on Chasing Birdies,

we are joined by an entrepreneur, a, uh, clothing

mecca. Uh, and anybody with the name Billy

Dratty is obviously a cool dude

by my standard. So we have Billy.

Billy Dratty on the podcast today. As you may know,

his clothing line be Dratty and other lines as well in his business.

So we appreciate you coming on the show today.

>> Speaker A: Oh, you got it, guys. Excited to be here.

>> Jonathan: You know, our, uh, our whole premise of the show is

Chasing Birdies, whether.

>> Jonathan: It'S on the course or in life. And you kind

of encapsulate that. So, um, I'm excited, man.

>> Jonathan: I'm excited.

>> Speaker A: Cool.

>> RB: So you're living down the road. I know that you're doing this from your car,

but, uh, uh, we just took a nice little

golf trip with a mutual friend of ours, Vincent Trocheck.

And, uh, he had said, dude, I live right down the road from

him. So, uh. Oh, yeah, up there in

Rye, New York.

>> Speaker A: Addition to the area. Yeah, he's. He's been a great addition

to the area. My wife, I actually met.

I. I met him through my wife actually, because.

Okay, uh, my wife's a decorator

and, uh, she had. She's done

some work for the Rangers guys because a lot of them, you

know, come in and out of town and, uh, you know,

they need to get their. Their pads up to date

quickly. And so she's. She's good in

helping out with that. Um, but,

uh, quickly got to know him also through a mute

mutual friend, a guy named Matt Bagley.

>> RB: Yeah.

>> Speaker A: Had, uh, become great friends at JT when, uh, he

was in town. And you know, with their

history together when, when Vinnie moved to town,

uh, he Immediately lined, uh, him up with Matt,

who is, uh, he's like, uh, the Godfather

of Rye.

>> RB: Well, that's his, um, member, guest, partner, and I've heard all

about the Wingfoot member, guest that's happening here in a few

weeks. Um, yeah, Bagley's his

partner, so. And that was a nice little deal. I know

you're a die hard Rangers fan, which, uh,

you know, we're from Pittsburgh, so, sorry. But,

um, getting J.T.

miller back with the band, that was a nice addition.

He's a great golfer, too. I don't know if you've had the opportunity to play

golf with him yet, but he pounds it.

>> Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah. No, I heard he's. He's going to try and

qualify for the Open this year.

>> RB: Yeah, he did that last year, too,

um, in Pittsburgh. So, um, I

think he's going to give it another go here. I think it's actually

this week, so.

>> Speaker A: Yeah, you got to have your game together if you're. If you're going to try

and do that. That's for sure.

>> Jonathan: Yeah, there's no doubt about it. I love how Pep apologized

when he said, you know, we're from Pittsburgh, but.

>> Jonathan: You guys are closer to winning a.

>> Jonathan: Cup than the Penguins are.

>> Jonathan: Oh, yeah, we go there.

>> Speaker A: Not a chance in the world. We're closer.

>> Jonathan: Well, last year, guys.

>> RB: Yes, you are.

>> Jonathan: I mean, yeah, 100%.

>> Speaker A: I can't wait to hear. And I don't

know if I'll ever know, like, what went down with the Rangers this

year. Like, it was. It went from being like,

you're like, all right, we're on the cusp.

And then all of a sudden, it's like,

oh, we're not even going to make the playoffs. This is like, uh.

And it's almost like if you. It's almost like if you kind

of know you're rebuilding, you're already

like, all right, well, if we make the playoffs, that'll be great,

but if we don't, we're rebuilding, you know?

>> RB: Right.

>> Speaker A: But when you're, like, expected to go to the

conference finals of the Stanley cup and you

don't even make the playoffs, like that. That

distance you've traveled emotionally is

greater, you know?

>> RB: Well, I, uh. Mean, and that's the thing, too, is that, like, you guys

were in the conference finals last year.

>> Speaker A: Yeah.

>> RB: Essentially the same team. Some,

you know, uh, but your core

was there, and for that to happen, I don't know.

Um, but you got a new head coach, which. He's coming

from Pittsburgh. That's going to be A good one for you

guys. Yeah, he's going to be really good for you guys. So,

um, I think his time in Pittsburgh was over. I think he

kind of lost the team. He was here a little too long,

um, which that happens in coaching. And

uh, so I think it's going to be a nice addition to,

to the range. I know Vince is really excited. I mean again, we were just

with him and he's really excited for the upcoming year, so.

>> Speaker A: Well, yeah, I think they should just build the team around those two,

JT and Vince, because I mean they're just.

The way they both play, it's a very kind of like

New York personality. You know, they just kind of leave

it all on the ice. They're a little bit, you know,

a little bit edgy, you know,

uh, kind of hit first, ask questions later, you know.

Definitely. I, uh, mean, I love the way both of them play.

>> Jonathan: Well, they, they play golf opposite of

what you just described their hockey nature. I can tell you that.

Vince, Vince is very quiet and reserved

on the golf course. He's just strolling now. Sometimes he's double

fisting with his drinks of choice.

>> Speaker A: Yeah.

>> Jonathan: Um, but you know, he's no hard hitting out there, you

know. And I tell you what though, we went to Ireland,

uh, a couple of years ago and Vince was on a trip. His

golf game since 23 to 25.

>> Jonathan: Big time.

>> RB: Big time.

>> Speaker A: Yeah.

>> RB: I mean he shot Billy, he shot three under on the back

nine of Peachtree.

>> Jonathan: Yeah, right.

>> RB: Yeah, 33. And it was ho hum, like

I didn't even know that it was done. I played with him.

I'm like what, 33?

>> Speaker A: So, um, yeah, well, I always say if you

gave me the choice of a football player, basketball player,

baseball player or a hockey player in my foursome, um, I would

take the hockey player every single time because,

you know, a slap shot is all you need,

you know, to hit a golf ball. And their hands

are unbelievable. So it's not like they could just hit the ball

hard, right? So they've got that touch, you know,

they're. And they're all hustlers. So I, uh, would always

take a hockey player on my team for sure.

>> Jonathan: And they're not scared to fight either. You get some knuckleheads behind you hitting

into you, you know what they're going to be barking, be like knock it

down back there, eh? What are you doing?

>> Speaker A: I think that's, that's the hard thing for athletes, you know,

like contact, uh, sport athletes to learn

about golf is that, you know, I Come from a

family of football players. And, like, when you make a bad play,

you just come out and hit someone harder the next time.

And, you know, like, it's not.

That's not the modus operandi in

golf. You know, you got to. You got to, you know, forget

everything that just happened on the last shot and live in the

moment and all that kind of stuff, which I'm not good at.

>> RB: Well, I'll tell you what you are good at is,

um, clothing. And

for those of you don't know, Billy Dratty is

they have Summit, uh, brands, which is B. Dratty,

Zero Restriction, Fairway and Green,

and ep, which is the women's side of things.

And I will tell you, this past weekend

and back, there were six of us. And I can't tell

you, I think we were at. We were at Peachtree and Sage Valley,

and I think everyone took home a

feature out of your zero piece.

>> Jonathan: Definitely.

>> RB: And that's cool because,

you know, you've got all these different personalities and different

vibes, but somehow zero restriction. I feel like zero

restrictions really made a turn on

just pieces and things like that. And be Dratty with the pocket

polo, uh, like, I really want to hear this pocket polo story

because. Yeah, I love that. That is one

of my favorite golf shirts. You throw it on. You go to

the pool, you throw it on with jeans. Like it's.

It's the all wear

piece.

>> Speaker A: Well, you just. You just encapsulated what we were hoping to

do. You know, uh, you know, when I. When I

started, you know, you'd walk into a golf shop and ask them

where their cotton golf shirts were, and

they didn't even know what you were asking. They looked at you like you

had, you know, three heads. And, you

know, there wasn't. There wasn't any, you know, really any

cotton out in the marketplace. And so,

uh, when we started, you know, I. I didn't

want to, like, get into arguments with golf pros about whether

or not, you know, people want to wear cotton to play

golf. You know, uh, the way I always phrased

it to him was, listen, if you had a fruit stand, and even

if you could sell more oranges than apples,

you would still carry apples because you, you know,

you get incremental business. And so

that was kind of our M.O. and like, I

didn't even care if people wore the shirt to play

golf in. You know, we wanted the people to wear the

shirt the rest of the day. When you're leaving the club, when

you're going to watch Your kid play sports when you're going out with

your boys? You know, shit, I wear them to go to sleep

in. They're so comfortable. So, like, we would rather

have people, um, wear them all those other times and

say, you know what, I'm going to wear a tech shirt to go play golf

then not to wear it at all, you know, so

you, you kind of nailed exactly what our goal was.

>> RB: So how did you come up with the pocket Polo? Because it's

got that vintage feel to it and I know a lot of companies are

doing it. Um, but again, a lot of these companies

have their niche markets, right? Your Johnny O's,

uh, your Red Valley is known for their shorts. Uh, Be

Dratty. When you think of Be Dratty, you instantly think of

that classic cotton poly pocket Polo.

Where did that come up from?

>> Speaker A: Well, you, I'm, I'm the, I'm the third

generation in my family in the clothing business.

And so I have this, you know, I

have, I've got a multi generational

archive in my head of things that,

you know, that my, my father

business was selling, grandfather's business was selling.

So, uh, there was this, uh, my,

my family was involved with Izod Lacoste

and there was this old Izod Lacoste

shirt that they did. Um, that was very

similar to the Dratty fabric. Uh,

it had a pocket on it and it had the gator

in the upper corner of it. And

it was one of my favorite shirts growing up. The difference was it

had a knit collar as opposed to this

self collar. So, um, that was the main

difference with it. But that was kind of my

inspiration. You know, we then in terms of the

fabric, I had, you know, I had worked at Bobby

Jones and I'd worked at Polo and I had always

kind of tried to launch this like

soft cotton polo. You know, something is really

soft. So I had kind of figured out through trial and error

that, you know, the Peruvian Pima cotton was the

softest that you could find. And so

I applied that with just a little bit of Lycra

so that you could get that tech feeling to it when you put

it on, you know, that it would stretch with you, that it would have

memory to, um, also helped

kind of like with the wash and wear, uh, the, the

spandex does. So we kind of took an old

idea, combined it with a newer, you

know, modern fabric and you know,

the pocket was always part of it. And so,

you know, we, we. The thing that we went out to the

clubs with was that we would be able to embroider it,

you know, right up here in the corner of the pocket, which

was kind of the look. So we had a, uh, you know, kind of a

secret way that we were going to do that in our warehouse in Wisconsin,

and it ended up working. That's kind of like the

origin story behind the cotton pocket

polo.

>> RB: It is one of my favorite polo's, uh,

go to pieces just because of what you said. Like,

it, it's a memory piece. Like, it just fits your body.

Um, it's so soft. I feel like after washes, it

gets softer and softer and I could be wrong.

>> Speaker A: Exactly, exactly. No, it does. It gets

better with time. And, and, you know, we have people that

went to our launch party, I guess,

uh, 13 years ago now or 12 years ago

now, and, you know, they're like, I've still got

it. You know, I, I, you know,

I'm still wearing it once a week. And it's

incredibly soft. Um, yeah, it does. It's like an old

pair of jeans. You know, it does get better with age. And that's

cotton.

>> RB: I just went to, um, we were at Grove. I got

one with the Grove 23

Black, um, Panther on it. And it is, I mean,

it's just, it's beautiful, right? And people

notice it because of that little pockets leaning forward

just a hair. And I love what you guys are doing. Stamping the logos

on the inside of the, the, uh, the shirt, kind

of customizing it to each club. That's really a cool touch too.

So. And it's something that you're doing differently than

all other brands out there.

>> Speaker A: Well, that's, that is kind of like my design

philosophy is that, you know, if someone

else is doing it, then, then we don't need to be

doing, you know, we, we always want to be,

uh, creating something new that

causes, uh, you know, a need to, uh,

to act. You know, I don't have anything like that.

You, you know, mostly with zero, that's most

important. You know, you always have to push the technology.

And zero restriction is my favorite thing to design

because of that. You know, you're always kind of pushing

the technology, trying to create something that

guys don't have in their wardrobe. And,

uh, it's a really satisfying brand to work

for too, because if, if the

quality is there, you know, price really

isn't an object because it delivers on the

price value relationship. So,

um, yeah, so I, I

just, I love that part of the, of, uh, the design process

is just creating unique stuff.

>> Jonathan: The thing about the the polos is with that

cotton blend. That's probably why it wears well

in the heat. Like, you know, because I.

I have a couple of the shirts as well, you know, and I. I know it well.

>> Jonathan: It's. They're.

>> Jonathan: They're awesome. They're really cool. And I like the little

ball marker. I feel like it's a ball marker that comes with the tag or

something, you know? That's pretty rad.

>> Speaker A: You guys got the details down.

>> Jonathan: I love it for sure.

That's what I know. But the point is, is that it's not one

of those shirts. It's just gonna, like, like, sweat

on you and. And, like. Yeah, you know,

it's. It's a comfortable cotton shirt to wear,

period.

>> Jonathan: Yeah, period.

>> Speaker A: Um, well, the difference. Just what you're

feeling is, you know, all of the tech fabrics, and

we make tech fabrics, so I'm not saying anything bad about them.

Uh, they're all hydrophobic, which means that they

resist water. Um, so that's why you

feel dry in them, but you actually

sweat more because they're not as breathable as

cotton is. So people feel like you

sweat less because, uh, your shirt's not

absorbing it. You're actually sweating more, so

you're hotter, but it just doesn't breathe as well as

cotton.

>> Jonathan: That's an interesting point you make there, because I notice

every time that I'm wearing one of the new tech

shirts, you know, uh, and I feel like someone comes out with a text shirt

every other week. But anyways, every time I wear them,

I smell under my armpit. And it's not just,

like, body odor. It's like. It's a weird thing. But when I

shower. No, I do, but I'm just saying,

like, what he's saying is probably true. Like, your

body's probably hotter in that type of material.

And I notice it more wearing that than

opposed to, you know, one of your shirts.

100%.

>> Speaker A: Yeah. Well, what. What happens is the

cleaning detergents don't get the sweat out of the

garment, so it. It kind of, like, permanently

lives there. And so,

uh, once you start sweating, once it gets

heated, it activates that sweat that's been

living there. I mean, we've. I've got four boys that play

hockey, so it's a. It's. It's a

lesser version of what a hockey bag is, where

you can't get rid of, you know, that sweat that just

permanently in those. The jersey and in the

equipment. It's the same thing with the golf shirts.

It holds onto the sweat. And so when you

start sweating again, it reactivates it.

>> Jonathan: Yeah, that makes sense. Uh, I didn't know that.

>> Jonathan: And that's.

>> RB: That's really cool.

>> Jonathan: But you constantly.

Billy, in your business, like, right

now, we're in May, and you are probably

working on Spring of 26. What

are you doing right now?

>> Speaker A: I am done with fall of 26.

>> Jonathan: So you just got done with fall of 26?

>> Speaker A: Fall 26. I just finished, yeah.

>> Jonathan: Oh, my God.

>> Jonathan: So you're.

>> RB: So.

>> RB: How do you know the color palettes and things

for fall of 26?

>> Speaker A: Well, you know, our brand. Each of the brands has

its own kind of, like, color vibe,

uh, DNA, you know, uh, you know,

Dratty, because, uh, we do a lot of cotton.

You know, you always. You always do stuff that takes

the cotton well, you know, so the

colors always have to be kind of bright because. Because

cotton, uh, kind of knocks down the color,

uh, the vibrancy of the color. And

Zero is, you know, Zero is more of an

active palette, kind of like colors that you'd see in a

pair of sneakers or something like that.

>> RB: Yeah.

>> Speaker A: So you're always kind of just looking, you know,

I mean, for Zero specifically, I'm always looking at

colors of sneakers. When I'm thinking about what colors we're

going to use for the jackets, that's pretty

cool.

>> RB: So, uh, as I mentioned, you have zero

restriction. And, you know, I actually

was on the website probably about two weeks ago, scrolling, looking at.

There's this white rain jacket with a

hood with orange. And orange is my favorite color. So I'm like,

yeah, tempting. Um, yeah,

what's your. What's. What's the difference between you

guys and, say, a shoes in the rainwear?

Right. Because I think, you know, people

shoes, uh, is in a lot of pro shops, right? It's that

500 to 700, uh, garment

that people are just not even batting an eye at.

>> Speaker A: Yeah. Well, the truth is, is that there's

really not that much different, you know, in terms

of. I mean, I know that we use the same

fabric manufacturers that they do. And,

um, you know, so, I mean, in

terms of. I mean, that would. That would be one company that I

would say the performance. There really is no the performance,

you know, whether or not you're going to stay dry when

the worst weather in the world is happening around you.

There's really no difference in terms of the performance. And that

would probably be the only brand I would say that about. Um,

but in terms of everything else, it's just

styling and fit. You Know, uh, you know,

in terms of the real technical performance, it's

pretty m. It. It's the same. Um,

uh, we both guarantee, uh, the waterproofness of

our garments for the life of the garment. So, you know,

you've got that ultimate guarantee.

Um, and then it just comes down to

personal styling. So, um, you know,

that would be the only real difference, I would say.

Uh, I think they probably charge a little bit more for theirs,

but I don't. I don't know. I should even say that I don't even know

their pricing that well. But, um, you know,

but in terms of the quality, I would say there's no difference.

>> Jonathan: I think it's so. And I don't know why, but,

you know, wearing outerwear

in the rain and playing golf, it's amazing that these guys

on tour, like, it doesn't affect them. I don't

think it does. I mean, you see them wearing it whenever they have to, and

they're swinging me. I. I don't know why.

It's like, mentally, I just. I

don't know if it's long sleeves or what or I don't know what it

is, but I just have an issue all the time

wearing rain gear.

>> Speaker A: Yeah.

>> Jonathan: And.

>> Speaker A: Well, I think it's. It's. It comes down to it,

part of its mental, you know, we hear.

>> Jonathan: I think so.

>> Speaker A: You know, we've done, like, the President's cup and stuff

like that. So you get 15 different guys, all

who are supposed to wear the same jacket or something like that,

and they just. Each guy has their own thing. Some guys

don't like full zips, you know, when they're. When they're

out there playing. Some guys, like, you don't like to have a

full sleeve. They need a half sleeve. So when we

go about doing a, uh, team event like that, we create,

you know, three or four jackets for the whole team

so that they all have something that kind of

fits within their. Their own. It's really their own

mental state. Because clearly, you know, someone like

Tom Watson can put on a jacket and he can win

five British Opens, and it. It, you know, doesn't

bother him at all. But, uh, you know, everyone's

different, you know.

>> RB: Well, I was just with. Actually, uh, in October, I was just

with a, uh, B. Drati staffer in Jim

Furyk. Um, and he had

that hoodie. I forget what hoodie he had on. And we got

talking about, you know, the outfitting of the President's cup

that you guys did with the zero restriction and all that,

and all that went into it. Like, people don't realize that.

That the. The. You know, the captain has to make

those decisions. Right. I mean, he even went into.

There's out of 15 guys, there's 12 different

golf balls that they're playing, and he has to m. Make sure that they all line up

with different people. People. He's sending golf balls here and there. And I'm

sure, to an extent, it's a lot of that for. For you guys,

too. You're sending them all these jackets, and they're picking one that they feel

comfortable with. Um, but

that hoodie that he had on, uh, I think it might be. Is it

the proctor or.

>> Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah.

>> RB: Well, I got that version in the cashmere. The. The

100 cashmere from Laurel Valley from our boys Chris

McKnight and Shane. And they did the little. You guys did the

little. Little pink right here with the pink drawstring.

>> Speaker A: Yeah.

>> RB: Holy hell.

>> Speaker A: Yeah. It was custom for them. Yeah.

>> RB: Yeah. I mean, the price was custom, too.

>> Jonathan: But, um, yeah, I'm still paying

it off.

>> RB: I asked him for a payment plan.

>> Speaker A: Some unbelievable golf courses. I've been in the golf

business for 25 years, and

I haven't played the courses you guys are playing.

Unbelievable.

>> Jonathan: Well.

>> Speaker A: You'Re playing the Great Grove, Laurel Valley. I mean,

just Beach Tree. Just in one call, you guys have

name dropped like, three.

>> RB: Like Billy, I. I don't get labeled

America's guest for nothing. Okay?

>> RB: It's.

>> RB: It's a. It's a name that I. I take,

and, uh, I've earned it.

>> Speaker A: Certainly you welcome it.

>> Jonathan: I just, uh. The guy that hosted us down at Sage Valley, he's

like, hey, maybe in the fall, we can have Pep plan us a golf trip. I'm like,

Pepe has a PhD in golf trip planning. Like,

there's no two ways about it. And if he

can't get on right away, he will get on at.

>> Jonathan: Somehow there's some capacity.

>> Jonathan: Absolutely. No question.

>> Jonathan: It's funny as hell.

>> Speaker A: Hey, does anyone ever tell you your voice sounds

like John C. Reilly's?

>> RB: No.

>> Speaker A: You know, the brother from. I mean, the guy from,

uh, Talladega Nights.

>> RB: Yeah. Step brothers. Yeah. Deli. Yeah.

>> Speaker A: No, I mean, say. Say I.

I picture my Jesus in a tuxedo T shirt.

>> RB: I, uh, picture my Jesus in a tuxedo T shirt.

>> Speaker A: Yes. It's the same. There's something to it. Like,

I like to party with my Jesus.

>> RB: Yeah, you remember.

>> Jonathan: You remember that spider monkey guy or whatever his name was?

>> Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah.

>> RB: I'm gonna come down. Spider monkey Chip.

>> Speaker A: Yeah.

>> Jonathan: We were sitting down there at Old Hickory

in Nashville, and this cat comes up and he sits down,

he's starting to play guitar, and Pep's, uh,

talking to him. And he told. He told Pep something about him.

He's being the. He was in the movie and he

was the brother that, you know, spider monkey,

whatever. And I'm like, hey, buddy, I said, honest to God,

I'm not trying to offend you, but I can't tell you. I've never

watched a movie. I have no idea what you're talking about right now.

>> Speaker A: No way.

>> RB: That's what I said, dude.

>> Jonathan: Pep went straight fanboy on him and pulled up

YouTube. Oh, yeah.

>> Speaker A: Uh, I mean, we've watched it. It's gotta

be. I'm gonna say 50, but it could be a hundred

times. In my house now, I've got four teenage

boys. So, like, our level of humor,

that's like the sweet spot, you know,

and like the ultimate quotable movie. Like, shut

up, Chip, you know?

>> RB: Yeah, yeah. And that's him.

>> RB: And it was him. It was hysterical. I'm like, this kid

I like, he.

>> RB: You're the most quoted kid I've ever seen.

>> Jonathan: Yeah, he can play the guitar, though.

>> RB: Yeah, he can play the guitar, that's for sure. Oh, yeah. It's incredible.

Um, so you have a. As you've mentioned, you have a long

list of history in your family in the garment business.

Is that kind of how you got started?

Um, with your career

path, watching, uh, your grandfather, your dad? Because

you're around it so much. And,

um, you know, I would say that

Dratty and Zero. It's a luxury item. Right.

Nobody needs $120 polo. Um,

so how did you. How did you get

into that, following your. Your. Your family's

footsteps?

>> Speaker A: Well, you know, yeah. You're around it and you don't

even realize it. Uh, I'm sure, you know, you

guys, your parents were, you know, obviously had some sort

of business they were in. And you don't even realize

that when you grow up around it, you're just. By osmosis,

you're just absorbing all this stuff. Um,

and actually, when I graduated from college, my dad.

I had gotten a job with a clothing company, and my

dad convinced me not to do it. And,

um, he said, listen, you could. You

can always go into that. Why don't you try

something else for two years? And then if you want it, if

you want to come back to it, you know, you can come back to it.

And. Which was, you know, great

advice. Uh, but I mean, I. Once

I got a year into doing something else, I was counting

the days until I could get into the clothing

business. Uh, and, you know, I understand

where he was coming from. He always wanted to be in the restaurant business,

and he got into the clothing business because that was what his

family was in. And he eventually got into the restaurant

business. But this is what I always wanted to be

in. And so, um, when I was in

college, I had started working for

Timberland. And, uh,

so I worked for them through my last two years of college.

And then, uh, an opportunity came up

to go work for them and learn design on the job

from the guy that was designing the Timberland clothing.

So it kind of took my career in a different

path than what, uh, my father or

grandfather had done. Um, and it gave me the

opportunity to learn design on the job, which was,

you know, an incredible opportunity.

>> Jonathan: That's a great story.

>> RB: So was your father and grandfather, were they in the

suit industry or were they in the golf wear?

>> Speaker A: No, in the sportswear. In sportswear. So,

uh, the Izod Lacoste. You guys are probably too young

when, you know, Izod and Lacoste were married,

like, until 1990 or

something like that. And then Izod had to sell

the right to the Alligator back to the parent

French company. Uh, so, yeah,

they were both involved with that for, you know,

uh, you know, probably 40 years, something like

that.

>> RB: I remembering. I used to love that.

I don't even. It's not even cotton. What material was that?

Classic.

>> Speaker A: No, it's cotton piquet. Yeah.

>> RB: Yeah.

>> RB: So I, uh.

>> RB: In college, I had so many Lacoste polos.

And I remember that, that when I was

in college, that was when the double collar, you'd wear two

freaking polos and pop the collars.

>> Jonathan: You did that.

>> Speaker A: Yeah, but I did that. I mean, I look like I didn't even do

that. And I was getting them for free. Jesus.

>> RB: Yeah, so I was. I was rocking in orange with

a yellow double collar popped, showing up to college

parties. I got photos. Did you want

them? I got them.

>> Jonathan: I bet you picked up all kind of chicks looking like that.

>> RB: Yeah.

>> Jonathan: Or actually, probably. Yeah,

the, uh.

>> Speaker A: I know what you're gonna say. I know what you're gonna say.

>> Jonathan: I'm not saying it.

>> Jonathan: I'm good.

>> Jonathan: Uh, but, yeah, that's. You know,

it's. I always think, because we have a buddy, Pep, and I have

a buddy Steve Piering, who's been in the clothing world forever on the

sales side, and, you know, he sits there and he'll look at your shirt and he

could tell you what it is, like 85% polyester,

15% that, 12% whatever. But,

uh, and he does a great job, phenomenal job. But the point being is,

I always have thought that. And you're

established, so this doesn't apply to you by any stretch. But these new

golf. You always see these new brands coming out.

McCade, you know, Ah, other companies that are

just trying to enter into the golf clothing space. And I

just look back, I'm not knocking them because I love

anyone that tries and has an idea, wants to bring it to fruition.

That's phenomenal. But I just feel like it is such

a crowded space. If you are just like,

what could you do different?

I don't know. You know what I mean?

>> Speaker A: Yeah. Well, that's what you got to find. You got to find that, you

know, that. That different product that

the world is needing, you know, um,

and it's different. You know, as time goes

by, it evolves. Like, when I was starting, I

said there was no cotton golf shirts in the market at the

time. So it was a great opportunity for me to kind of launch

what I was launching. Um, you know, the world

changes. You know, there's so much information

now coming out about, you know, all these tech

fabrics and what they do to your hormones and everything

like that. You know, we're not there now, but there's

going to be a point where we're all going to be wearing

natural fiber clothing again. And,

um, you know, all this stuff that's kind of manmade,

uh, is. I mean, at the end of the

day, it's not good for you. It's kind of like organic food. You know,

when Whole Foods started out, everyone's like,

well, why would I pay twice as much for organic

food when, uh, I could go to Food City and, you know, get, get it

at half the price. But then you realize that, you know, all the

stuff they're putting into the food isn't good for you.

>> Jonathan: Yeah.

>> Speaker A: And now everyone shops at Whole Foods, so

it's going to be kind of the same thing in clothing where,

you know, all the chemicals that go into making these

tech products, um, they're

just not good for you and they're not good for the environment. So,

you know, we're all going to be, you know, back to

wearing cotton and wool and, and

cashmere and all that kind of stuff. You know, not

tomorrow, not in five years, but, you know,

as time goes by.

Yeah.

>> RB: Well, you had mentioned, uh, Steve Piering, and he does

A really good job because, you know, we talk about niche

markets and you know, somebody that has a niche that does

extremely well on it is Red Vanly with their

bottoms. Right? They have a niche.

>> Speaker A: Yes. Yeah, totally.

>> RB: They're very comfortable. And Steve will come to

us and, and say, hey, you know, what do you like about that

short? What, what, uh, you know what, what

fit do you like? Are you looking for like an 8 inch shorter, a 10

inch short? Because he's trying to do some R D and

take it back to his team. And, uh, and I appreciate that

because like Ryan said, I'm in the

jewelry business and in the bridal business.

We have so many competitors. But

what makes you different? Right? The quality of the product.

>> Speaker A: Yeah.

>> RB: The service you can provide, the pricing you can provide

at that high quality. So I get

it. And it is, um, every, every

industry has that competitiveness. You just got to separate

yourself in some capacity.

>> Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, being, you know, striving to have the best

quality is always a differentiator. You know, if you're

trying to have the best, if you can,

you know, if you can create something that is just of

a higher quality than what's out there, that is a

point of differentiation. I mean, Red Valley is a,

is a great example. You know, uh, they created

a waistband that wasn't in the golf market. And,

you know, all of a sudden everyone was wearing, you

know, small, medium, large golf shorts. You know,

it was a, it was a great concept. So, you know,

innovation always will, will create

an openness in the market. For sure.

>> Jonathan: Do you have any brand ambassadors on Tour?

>> Speaker A: Yeah, for sure. Uh, our first one was Zach

Blair.

>> Jonathan: Okay.

>> Speaker A: Um, you know, and he's kind of like, he's a

great brand ambassador because. Exactly what I

said, like, he's just, he, he

does things just a little bit differently. You know,

uh, you know, he's a Tour pro, but he also

just opened up the tree farm, which has always been a

goal of his. He's, he's kind of an artist

himself. So he's been. He was our first tour

pro. And then, uh, we've got other

guys like, you know, Taylor Moore and Brian Harmon

and Victor Perez and, you know, a

good balance. Uh, not the most guys out there,

but a couple guys every week that are going to compete,

you know, even in the majors. You know, like, Harmon has been a

great representative.

>> RB: Steady. He's Steady Eddie. Yep.

>> Jonathan: He was in the, he was in the mix a couple weeks ago at Harbor Town.

Yeah, I mean, he's, he's playing some good GS.

>> RB: So what does that do to your brand for people that don't

understand, um, when a. When an

ambassador, uh, wins,

what does that do to your brands? The

week after or a couple weeks after? Do you

feel like your traffic on your site kind of goes up a little

bit? Um, sales just a hair. What. What does that

do for you guys as an organization?

>> Speaker A: Yeah, it's a little bit. It's a little bit. I mean, you would never.

It doesn't transform a brand or anything like

that. You know? Um, you know, certain

guys, as I say, sell shirts more than

others. You know, a guy like Rickie Fowler, you

know, even though he hasn't won any majors, he's probably

done more for Puma golf than

all their tour pros combined. You know, there's just certain

personalities that. That, you know, really kind

of uplift the brand. And, you know, you,

Tiger, did the same thing with Nike.

Um, Freddy Couples did it with Ashworth. You know,

it's. There's just certain personalities that can really

uplift a brand. Um, and so if you have

one of those, then it's a big deal. But, you know, with our guys,

they're just good guys for the brand, and we like

them as much as they like us. And in all the cases,

you know, either they or their agents came to us is like,

listen, I love the product. I'd love to wear it on tour. And

that's kind of the starting point, you know, because I always

feel kind of funny about just having a. Paying a guy to

wear something, you know, I'd much rather have it

be. This is what I want to wear.

>> Jonathan: Right.

>> RB: Well, I was just going to say that like, it's. You're.

You're not going to have a, uh, Rickie Fowler come to you

and wear be dratty. And. No,

not to either one of you. But that's not his

vibe, right?

>> RB: Like, he.

>> RB: Yeah, he's just not. It's not him. So, like, it's

better to get somebody like a Brian Harmon or Zach

Blair, that. That's their vibe. They look good in it. They

actually believe in the product. They wear the product

off camera, too. That's the other thing.

>> Speaker A: Yeah. Yes, exactly. When they're. When they're out

to dinner with their wife or girlfriend, they're wearing it.

And that's how actually we got. Victor Perez was like, he had

just finished with. With Laura

Piana, and he's like, you know, he just. He likes wearing

cashmere sweaters and. And so he

had, you know, picked up a Couple of our products.

And his agent reached out, and it was. It just

ended up being a perfect, you know, a perfect

marriage of the. Of the two

brands.

>> Jonathan: We had, um, Stephen Malbon on the show a

couple years ago, and you talk about

opposite ends of the spectrum with you

and that brand. I mean, and again, it's

absolutely not knocking anything.

It's all good. Um, but he's got his

vibe going on with his thing, and he's blowing up in

his. In his world, you know, and then, you know, you look at your

brand and how that fits in, and

I think it's a beautiful place because it's like a. It's like

a healthy ecosystem. You know, I don't feel like anybody has

beef. You know, it's not like. It's not like,

um, you know, Drake and,

uh, the guy that did the halftime show. You know, there's.

There's no beef. Uh, everyone's just kind of

putting out what they feel is their vibe and is their image

and brand, and. And that's cool. And it does fit in golf,

especially with the golf movement that we're witnessing right

now before our very eyes. And that is in the. In the

sense of a more lax. Gaining

popularity, more youth, uh,

and I think it's phenomenal. And clothing

is a huge aspect of that. I mean, look, I was golfing

last week, and someone said, you look too cool to playing golf.

But meanwhile, I three putted, so I said, do I

look cool now? No. Um, but it's like,

I love that it's. Golf is on a

different type of trajectory right now, and I think

it's. I think it's good for everybody involved. Yeah.

>> Speaker A: What you said is just a great statement about where

we are with golf today, that all of these

different brands that can be on the opposite end of the

spectrum, and. And there's room for everybody. There's

a business there for everybody. You know, when I first got

into the golf business, you couldn't say that.

You know, like, if you weren't designing this type

polo or. Or whatever, uh, there

really wasn't room m. For you. And. And it's so great

to see that the, uh, the business has grown

so much over, you know, through the Tiger era

and now through this era, that,

uh, you know, that there's room for a lot of different golf

brands. And. And golf is a

whole lot cooler than it was 10

years ago, for sure.

>> RB: Oh, yeah.

>> RB: I think, too.

The other cool thing about golf that I don't think a lot of people

look at is, you know, and I believe you're there, but your

wing foots, which are your classic, your

Oakmonts, your Baltasrolls, um, you know, you

wear your polos tucked in your khaki

shorts and you play the country club. Right.

Or you got your other vibes that are the troubadours,

the groves, where wear whatever you

want. And I think that that's cool about golf now,

too, is because there's a little bit of

everything for someone in this

game.

>> Speaker A: Well, and, and it's just like life, you know, it's like,

you know, if you're gonna go visit, you're gonna go meet

your, uh, your girlfriend's parents, you're

gonna dress a certain way, you know, if you're gonna go hang out with

your boys, you're gonna dress another way, you know, and as long as

you have respect for the traditions at each of these

places, then that's all good. You know,

it's like, uh, you know, I think it's incredible

that, you know, you can. Certain places you can

go and, you know, the, the music's already, the

speaker's already set up in the cart for you to put the music

in and start listening. You know, you don't have to

go covert or bring your own speaker or whatever.

Uh, I love that there's all of that. At some

places you play barefoots. The other places, you can't

even play in sneaker golf shoes. You know, I love that there's something

for everybody or something for every day of the week,

you know?

>> RB: Right.

>> Jonathan: Yeah, 100%.

>> Speaker A: I like it all. I like, I like my kids have

to get dressed up when they come to the club. They have to show that

respect. They learn, you know, about,

you know, the, the traditions of the game. But I also

like going on vacation with them and playing a par three course

and doing it barefoot and having drinks

brought out to us, uh, you know, while we're playing, you know, I like

it all.

>> Jonathan: It's phenomenal. Yeah.

Um, I want to touch briefly on the, the

women's line, because we never really spoke of that. And

with golf gaining popularity amongst female golfers,

clothing is essential. Now me,

I feel like women, you know,

you see some girls out there and they're

dressed like traditional wear, but I'm, I'm the

one that would be a little more on the, um,

rebellious side. But so what's your take on, on the

female attire?

>> Speaker A: Well, I, I. So we launch women

like, ah, little bit over a year, year ago,

and I didn't want it to be golf at all. I wanted

it to be athletic, like, like

sportswear stuff that you would live in at home.

>> Jonathan: Yeah.

>> Speaker A: Uh, as I said about the men, but. But even

more casual for women. So, you know, we

haven't done any quote, unquote, golf clothes yet for

women because, uh, I

don't want to get put in that, you know, in that box

where it's just women's golf clothes, because that's a very

kind of, like, confining, not very

feminine, not very sexy box,

you know, uh, and so,

uh, so we had success

launching all these great sweaters and

cashmere lounge pants and, you know,

great women's T shirts and stuff like that.

And so for next spring, we're going to launch a

women's golf line, which will be more performance

driven. But I, I kind of want, like, I.

I find, like, women's tennis clothes, like,

extremely sexy.

>> Jonathan: Yeah.

>> Speaker A: Like, and I would love to see, like, women's golf

kind of move more in that direction where,

you know, it's a, um, when a woman goes to get

dressed for golf, it's feminine and it's

sexy and all of those things, and it's

not, you know, you know, it's not,

uh, masculine, you know, like.

And I find that sometimes the women's golf

wear can be very, you know, men's

stuff just done in women's sizes.

>> Jonathan: Yeah, well, it's. It's funny. I was playing.

This is about five years ago, maybe six. I was playing in a

qualifier at Fox Chapel, uh,

Golf club in Pittsburgh, and my lady came to

watch. And, um, she was in

a pair of Lululemon yoga pants, which,

you know, is pretty widely accepted in the world these days. I mean,

women wear yoga pants everywhere.

So she gets down there, and these old heads could not handle. I mean, they

were like. They were. Their minds were like, what in the

world? So I was getting ready to tee off, and

I see her walking up. I'm like, yo, uh, where are you going?

I can't be here. Like, what. What do you mean? I

can't. I'm not allowed to walk around the course in these yoga pants. I'm like,

that's nice, because you're a distraction to everybody, but. All right, well,

I'll catch you in five hours. But I'll never

forget that. I'm like, that's.

>> Speaker A: Yeah, but.

>> Jonathan: But, you know, going back to your point, there's a dress code maybe

to add. Adhere to, and especially at that place, which is a

phenomenal golf course, golf club. Oh, yeah,

they don't care. There's no exceptions.

>> Jonathan: Which. That's.

>> Speaker A: Yeah.

>> Jonathan: But I just was curious.

>> Speaker A: I wanted to get the stuff that

everyone likes to wear that, that men like women to

wear and that women like to wear in

the line already. And, you know, if we have to do

a skirt of a certain length and a. And a

polo shirt, you know, to fit within the

spectrum of golf, we'll do it, but we want to have all the

other stuff first.

>> Jonathan: Gotcha.

Um, so before we

head to our last segment of the show here, it's been a. It's been

a pleasure. You seem, you know, naturally I haven't met you in, in person,

but just talking with you, Billy, you seem like one hell of a

cool dude. Um, so what

does Billy Draty like to do other than

create rad clothing and golf? Like, what's

something that you enjoy doing outside of

what you do day to day?

>> Speaker A: I, uh, mean, being a father. Really?

>> Jonathan: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

>> Speaker A: I've got four boys, teenage boys

that, you know, uh, are all

hockey players and guys, golfers and football

players and, you know, I've spent the last,

you know, 15. 15 years being a

chauffeur and a coach and.

>> RB: Yeah.

>> Speaker A: And a friend, you know, after games and.

Yeah, that is by far my favorite thing. You know,

I. To. I just went up to Skinny Atlas,

you know, uh, this weekend because my son had

a qualifier for the New York state team for.

In hockey. And it's like literally beautiful out.

And I'm sitting in this rink, you know, for. For

two or a day and a half, you know, in,

you know, 30 degree temperature, freezing my

ass off when I could be playing golf. But the truth is I would rather do

that than, you know, almost anything else.

So that's probably, you know, what I like

doing more. And, um, now that my oldest is. Is

20 and my youngest is 14, I see

those days starting to narrow. So I'm really

trying to take advantage of every chance I get to.

To be that guy.

>> RB: That's awesome.

>> Jonathan: Yeah, that is. That's great. Now, that

keeps you busy for sure. Yeah, yeah.

But we are here at the end of our

show here, Billy, and, uh, we are going to

transition to our tap in segment presented by

Bettinardi Golf.

>> RB: Ch.

>> Jonathan: Check them out online@betnardi.com

Jonathan's going to ask you a couple questions here, Billy, that demand

your quick response and, you know, a

little fun.

>> Speaker A: Okay?

>> RB: All right.

>> Speaker A: Huh?

>> RB: All, uh, right. Your favorite golf destination

internationally, uh, St.

>> Speaker A: Andrews and domestically,

Fisher's Island.

>> RB: I hear Troach rants about Fisher's

Island.

>> Speaker A: Do you want me to elaborate? M. Or just quickly? Quick

answers you can give us.

>> RB: Elaborate. Yeah.

>> Speaker A: St. Andrews is like a spiritual experience to me.

Like, every time I go there, I feel like

there's something bigger, higher going on.

It's. It's such a cool town. And, uh,

when you play those golf courses, it's just. It's

like, it's so. It's such a perfect

experience. And, And Fisher's island is just

unbelievable. Fifteen holes, they kind of go

over the tip of an island. Most times you're carrying your

own bag, walking. It's like, it's just

another very kind of purist, uh, experience.

They don't have any sprinklers on the golf course. It's all

kind of au natural.

>> RB: Wow, that's really cool. Dream, um,

foursome, dead or alive.

>> Jonathan: Oh.

>> Speaker A: I would have to say that would be tough.

No, it actually wouldn't be that tough. So it would be my

grandfather, my father, my brother and me.

>> RB: That's really cool. Yeah.

All right. Advice for younger people

wanting to get involved in the clothing business.

>> Speaker A: Uh, start at the bottom. Like,

go, you know, whatever it is. Go work

in a store, start folding some shirts.

Learn from the bottom up.

It's like a lot of industries, there's

no, there's no kind of, like, fast track

to the top. It's like, you have to, you know, if you're going

to be in the restaurant business, you have to start washing dishes. If

you're going to be, you know, an actor, you have to start,

you know, getting your ass kicked in auditions

and stuff like that. It's, uh, it just get

out there and there's no barriers. Like, anyone

can do it. Like, but, you know, just. Just start

doing it.

>> RB: Last question. What are you chasing?

>> Speaker A: Oh, uh, I don't like

to chase anything. Honestly, like,

chasing seems a little desperate to me. Like, you're

on the edge of here. I like to have things come and.

>> Jonathan: Yeah, awesome.

>> Speaker A: And do it. And actually, that's the way we

launched our business. Uh, like, we would go in

and tell people, like, if you're not ready for this,

no problem. I mean, we're not going to go next door and try and sell

somebody else. We think you're the right customer, but we

also think that this product's right for you. So. But if

you're not ready for it yet, no problem. And

that actually served us very, very well.

>> Jonathan: I think that is the first time in five

years someone's answered that question

in that manner of, I don't chase. It comes to me

now, the other question to that would be, why are we asking that question

after five years? But it kind of goes in with the show.

Um, but that is the first time, Billy, someone said that answer.

And that. That's. I like that answer.

>> RB: Yeah, Good.

>> Jonathan: Chill.

>> Jonathan: Awesome. Well, man, it was so nice,

uh, you know, having you on the show here and talking to you, meeting you

and hopefully some point, you know.

>> Speaker A: Yeah. We could play some golf.

>> Jonathan: Yeah.

>> Jonathan: Pepe will invite us somewhere, I'm sure.

>> Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. He squeezed a couple of, like,

free garments out of me. Feel like back in the day, you

know, like, what was the guy's name?

Martin. Uh, Polly Martin.

>> RB: I'm playing golf with him on. On Friday.

>> Speaker A: Squeeze a couple of freebies. I thought he was his agent. He

wasn't even his agent. He's just funny.

>> Jonathan: I love it.

>> Jonathan: That's hilarious.

>> Speaker A: Yeah.

>> Jonathan: Oh, shoot.

>> Jonathan: He's got his own.

>> Speaker A: Whenever you guys are in the area, I would love to play. Awesome.

>> Jonathan: Uh, yeah, we got to do it.

>> Jonathan: And you guys out there tuning in. Make sure you. You check B. Draty out

online and the other brands because it is phenomenal

golf wear. So thank you again.

>> Speaker A: Thank you.

>> RB: Fun episode that was.

Thank you to Billy Dratty for coming on,

spending a little time sitting in your car while the house gets

redone. Uh, we always appreciate it, but,

man, you talk about a long list of family history in the

clothing business. That's really cool that his grandfather,

his father, now him, and he's got a shot

at one of the three boys, uh, potentially getting into

the business.

>> RB: Yeah.

>> Jonathan: Ah, yeah. You start at the bottom. Bottom feeder. Make your

way up. Great advice for anybody out there who.

>> RB: Which it is true.

>> Jonathan: It is 100. I mean, you're living proof,

and it's worked out.

>> RB: That's nice, buddy.

Really good one, actually. So that's

nice. Um, but yes, it

is. It's important for you to learn all

avenues of the business before you

are at the top.

>> Jonathan: You know, I'm not a really movie type guy, but,

uh, who did he say you were

from? From that movie Talladega Knights.

And he had you quote it. You do kind of

sound like the guy I went on the YouTube and checked.

>> RB: Riley. John C. Reilly.

>> Jonathan: Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty good, man.

That was pretty good. That was good.

>> RB: I'll probably be with him, what's his name? Tonight. So there you

go.

>> Jonathan: So, bud. What?

>> Jonathan: Tell me something golf related in your life. I mean, what's

excited. I know you got out with an old fellow of yours, Paulie

Martin, last week at Yakaganey Country Club. See him back

in Pittsburgh. I mean, that's gotta be fun for you.

>> RB: Play golf with the whole Paulie Martin, uh, last

week at the Yawk. And, um, it

was fun, dude. It was good to catch up. Saw

Snake, screamed Snake. And

I ran out of there. I thought I was gonna turn my ankle again. But

it was good to catch up with the boys. I might have something

popping, uh, off this week. Maybe we'll fill you in next week.

Um, but other than that, dude, I'm

ready to get rolling with this golf thing. I know. It's

kind of like. Like we're, like, tiptoeing around, right? You play here,

then you sit out for two weeks and you play and then you sit out for.

I want to keep it rolling.

>> Jonathan: Well, you know, for us in our little group. You

know, last year we dealt with you and your T ball injury. This year we're dealing

with bcats and his pickleball injury with the calf tear.

So it's like we can't get any type of synergy. We had

a bail on the Pete Dye. Member. Member this past weekend,

which, frankly, it opened up my window on the

weekend to get a lot of just normal man

shit done around the house, so that was good. But

I had a chance to go up to Pikewood and play Friday

with, uh, some of my boys from college. Dude, I haven't seen them in,

like, 15 years. Literally, I haven't seen them in 15

years. And they were. I'm still the same. Yeah,

still the same. So the boys got out to Pike. We had a great

time. A little rain delay at 11 for about 50 minutes,

but course, uh, was good.

>> RB: Does it get up there?

>> Jonathan: Yeah, it was really good. Yeah, they had that place in

right condition. Um, and

so kind of did that. Yucked it up a little bit.

Uh, rolled the rock decent. But outside of

that, I'm just kind of, you know. You know, I'm getting ready for this West

Virginia, you know. Yeah.

>> RB: Preparation for. What are you doing for

the stadium? I mean, it's about. What are we. We're about

a week and a half away from the practice round or two weeks

away.

>> Jonathan: Yeah, no, I'm not doing anything different. I'm just going to play

golf. And, um, you know, I have

been working on a swing, uh, especially since

we got back from Sage. Keeping that right elbow in front of

me, not getting stuck behind me. It seems to be working. Well,

the last couple of times I've played, I've been hitting some balls in the net,

getting, um, My swing speed up, so I'm

feeling good in terms of that. I just got to go and

just, you know, you know, my goal is frankly to make the

cut. That's it.

>> Jonathan: That's it.

>> Jonathan: I just want to put two good rounds together and then see what

happens after that. So that's my prep, but a lot of

massaging of myself, a lot of touching of myself in

between my thighs, down to my kneecaps, up to

my hamstrings and potentially the calf

muscles, so I don't pull a bk. So, yeah, that's

kind of just my, my little prep, if

you, if you care.

>> RB: Well, no, that's.

>> RB: I love it.

>> RB: I, um, do want, as far as golf is concerned, I do want to send a

congratulations to our boys for Fincastle

Four Ball Senior Division. Ian

Patrick Archer and Phil Zambos

brought it home. They took the winner.

So exciting for them. I mean, it's

hilarious.

>> Jonathan: That is hilarious.

>> RB: It's just funny. And, uh, I love that they won.

And now I know each Ian is off to

Glade Springs for the Super Senior

Golf Association Amateur Tour today.

Well, dude, I mean, this guy, it's hilarious.

>> Jonathan: He's living his best life.

>> RB: But congratulations to you, too. I know that you guys had fun.

So, um, without further ado,

and I.

>> Jonathan: Was gonna tell the folks out there listening, you know, I know you people are coming

into the Pittsburgh region for the US Open, which is next

month at Oakmont. And if you're not, you probably

will. And if you need a space to stay

or place to check out, drive a little south,

come up to Farmington and check out Nemacolin

Resort. Two world class PTAI

golf courses, phenomenal dining experiences,

five star lodging pools.

Whatever you want, they got it. So check

them out online at Nemacolin. Get

your plan, uh, to, to, to

book a stay and we'll meet you up there.

>> Jonathan: It's free.

>> Jonathan: We'll do it. Come on up.

>> Jonathan: But that's it.

>> Jonathan: We got, uh, the Charles Schwab

Challenge kicking off in Texas this

weekend. And to my surprise, at this juncture, Scotty

Scheffler is playing. And Spieth and Fowler.

No Rory McElroy this week, but next week kicks off the

Memorial Tournament, which is one of my favorites. I hear

Muirfield Village right now is kicking ass.

Yes, rough, the greens, the

plushness. So that's going to be a fun tournament.

>> RB: Yeah, but let's not get too far. Yeah, I'm looking forward to the

Muirfield Village. Um, they always

toughen it up and I, uh, can't wait to get

back in. Uh, maybe June, July.

>> Jonathan: Oh, yeah.

>> RB: So, um, look forward to seeing the boys at Mirafield

Village in a few weeks. And,

um, without further ado, dude, let's. Let's

roll it on out of this week.

>> Jonathan: Yeah, man, it's been awesome. It's been awesome.

>> RB: Make sure you follow us at chasing underscore

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out. We're trying, we're trying. The girls are trying. I know that

for damn sure.

>> Jonathan: They're doing great.

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>> Jonathan: You guys tuning in this week? We appreciate it very

much, and we hope you have a phenomenal

Memorial Day weekend. Don't forget, golf courses are gonna be

open on Monday, because like Chris Trott said,

why the hell would you close on a Monday? This Monday's a holiday.

Go get out there, get some fresh air, play some G, and

get it done. So without further ado, we're gonna wrap

this thing up. And I do want to thank Ivo, Ali, and Emily

at Simpler Media for putting this thing together. And Jacqueline

DiPaterio and Rachel London for.

>> Jonathan: All your social media help.

>> Jonathan: You girls kicking ass, and we will catch y' all

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