Welcome to episode 279 of the Business Development Podcast.
Speaker AAnd today we're talking all about trust.
Speaker AIt's the silent force behind every deal, every relationship, and every opportunity.
Speaker AYet it's the one thing most people overlook.
Speaker AYou can have the best product, the best pitch, and even the best price.
Speaker ABut without trust, nothing moves.
Speaker AToday, we're unpacking how trust really works, why it's not automatic, and how to build it intentionally, both in business and in life.
Speaker AStick with us, you're not going to want to miss this episode.
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Speaker BWelcome to the Business Development Podcast.
Speaker BAnd now your expert host, Kelly Kennedy.
Speaker BHello.
Speaker AWelcome to episode 279 of the Business Development Podcast.
Speaker AAnd today I want to start the episode by thanking each of you for the immense outpouring of support that we have received for the Signal Awards.
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Speaker AI wanted to leap back into the topic of trust.
Speaker ATrust is absolutely critical in business development.
Speaker AWe all know it.
Speaker AIt's the currency of business development.
Speaker ASome might say it's not built through ads, automation, AI, or even clever messaging.
Speaker ATrust is built in person through people's actions and consistency.
Speaker AWithout trust, no amount of skill, marketing or persuasion can close the gap to that buying decision.
Speaker ABefore we can get better at recognizing and building trust, we have to better understand what it is.
Speaker ASo what the heck really is trust anyways?
Speaker AAccording to psychology today, trust, or the belief that someone or something can be relied upon to do what they say they will, is a key element of social relationships and a foundation of cooperation.
Speaker AIt is crucial for romantic relationships, friendships, interactions between strangers and social groups on a large scale.
Speaker AAnd a lack of trust in such scenarios can come with serious consequences.
Speaker AIndeed, society as a whole would likely fail to function in the absence of trust.
Speaker ATrust is absolutely critical to the fabric of our society, guys.
Speaker AWhether you know it or not, we are unconsciously and consciously trusting everything around us, or distrusting everything around us.
Speaker ABut trust is built into nearly every aspect of our lives from the moment we're born till the moment we die.
Speaker AIt is truly one of the most integral parts of humanity.
Speaker ASociety would fail to function in the absence of trust.
Speaker ATalk about an insanely powerful statement.
Speaker ABut also a very true statement.
Speaker ALet's explore that deeper.
Speaker AHere are 10 unspoken rules of trust that hold our society together.
Speaker ANumber one Words mean something.
Speaker AWe subconsciously expect people to say what they mean and mean what they say.
Speaker ALanguage only works because we trust others to use it honestly.
Speaker AWithout truth in words, communication collapses.
Speaker AThat's why lies hit us so hard, guys.
Speaker AThat's why Lies are so impactful and it hurts so much when we know we've been lied to.
Speaker AIt breaks like a cardinal rule of being a human.
Speaker AHuman trust is so baked in that when somebody breaks those rules, it can feel like it actually breaks us.
Speaker ANumber two, promises create obligation.
Speaker AWhen someone gives their word, a promise, agreement or contract, we believe that they are bound by it.
Speaker AThis societal expectation fuels everything from marriage to business to governance.
Speaker AThink about the importance we put on somebody's word.
Speaker AI remember growing up in Canada and as a kid, my dad saying, kelly, your word is your bond.
Speaker AIf you say something, you have to do it, you have to live up to it.
Speaker AAnd that was baked into me from a young boy.
Speaker AAnd I know that that is baked into probably each and every one of you.
Speaker AIt's been reiterated over and over and over.
Speaker AYour word is everything.
Speaker BWhat?
Speaker AWell, guess what?
Speaker AIt's actually a critical rule of society.
Speaker ANumber three, effort earns reciprocity.
Speaker AIf we act fairly, work hard and contribute, we expect others and society to respond fairly in return.
Speaker AThis belief drives collaboration and mutual respect.
Speaker AThink about that.
Speaker AHas anybody ever told you that if you're nice to people, people will be nice back?
Speaker AReciprocity, right?
Speaker APut out into the world what you expect to get back and it will come back for you.
Speaker AIt's not just karma, guys.
Speaker AIt's the law of reciprocity.
Speaker AAnd it is once again a baked in cardinal rule of society.
Speaker ANumber four, authority must be accountable.
Speaker AWe grant power to leaders, police or institutions only because we trust that they will use it responsibly when they violate that trust.
Speaker AFaith in systems breaks down, right?
Speaker AThe police doesn't work if you think that they're going to rob you.
Speaker AThe court systems don't work if you think that they're not going to rule fairly.
Speaker AThe whole system is based on authority.
Speaker AMust be accountable.
Speaker ANumber five, fairness is the baseline.
Speaker AWe operate under a moral code that justice and fairness should guide interactions.
Speaker AWhen the system feels unfair, trust erodes instantly.
Speaker AFairness is an absolutely critical factor in trust.
Speaker AIf we don't have fairness, we can't have trust.
Speaker AWhen the systems feel unfair, trust ends.
Speaker AWhen the deals feel unfair, trust ends.
Speaker ANumber six, vulnerability deserves protection.
Speaker AWe trust that when we open up and emotionally, financially or physically, others won't exploit it.
Speaker AThis principle underlies relationships, parenting and business ethics.
Speaker AThere is an expectation that when we are vulnerable, it will not be exploited.
Speaker ANumber seven, reputation reflects reality.
Speaker AWe rely on reputation as a shortcut for trust.
Speaker AWhen someone has proven trustworthy in the past, we assume consistency.
Speaker AIt's why reviews Referrals and word of mouth are so powerful and matter so much because they can basically allow a shortcut to trust.
Speaker AThey can allow somebody else to share their trust with you.
Speaker AThat is a powerful, powerful statement and one of the most true things I've ever seen in business development.
Speaker AThe fastest way that I've ever seen to get people to make a buying decision is to have somebody that they trust recommend the product that they are looking to buy.
Speaker AThere is almost nothing that works better than that than word of mouth and shared trust.
Speaker AIt's powerful.
Speaker AReferrals are powerful.
Speaker ANumber eight, transparency signals safety.
Speaker AWe trust people and organizations that are open about motives, processes and outcomes.
Speaker ASecrecy breeds suspicion.
Speaker AOpenness builds confidence.
Speaker ALet me give you a really great example of this one, guys.
Speaker AWhenever I've had client work, I've consistently given weekly reports as to what I've done.
Speaker AAnd it's not uncommon for me to spend years working with a client.
Speaker AWhy is that?
Speaker AWhy is that?
Speaker ABecause I'm absolutely open about everything that I do for them.
Speaker AI show them every call I made, every new digital introduction, every meeting we've booked, and I do that every single week.
Speaker AI write a end of week report, I accompany it with an Excel spreadsheet going over all of the statistics, right?
Speaker AI share all of my work with them when I'm doing retainer work.
Speaker AAnd it builds trust.
Speaker AIt builds immense trust.
Speaker AI think there's a lot of organizations that I work for who don't know what their employees do all week.
Speaker ABut guess what?
Speaker AThey always know what Kelly did on his retainer that week.
Speaker AThat is powerful.
Speaker AThat builds trust.
Speaker AAnd being transparent like that has shown them that I am a safe bet that Kelly Kennedy is a safe person to bet on.
Speaker ASecrecy breeds suspicion wherever possible.
Speaker ABe open.
Speaker AIt builds confidence.
Speaker ADon't be afraid to share.
Speaker ADon't be afraid to let people know what you're doing for them.
Speaker ANumber nine.
Speaker AShared values create predictability.
Speaker AWe trust those who share our moral and cultural frameworks because it helps us predict behavior.
Speaker APeople with shared values make communities stable and cooperation possible.
Speaker AIf people share your values and uphold them, you know what to expect.
Speaker AYou know that they will put in a full day's work.
Speaker AYou know that you can trust them to deliver on time.
Speaker AYou know that you can trust them to show up on time.
Speaker AAnd you know that when you're in trouble, they're not going to leave your side, they're going to step up and help you.
Speaker AThat is the power of cultural frameworks.
Speaker AThat is the power of shared values.
Speaker AShared values create predictability and predictability is a cornerstone of trust.
Speaker ANumber 10 Consequences Keep trust honest.
Speaker AWe trust systems, legal, social or moral, to hold people accountable when they break trust.
Speaker AWithout consequences, deceit would dominate and society would decay.
Speaker AWe have to have consequences for people who break standards.
Speaker AThat's why when people are untrustworthy, other people aren't afraid to call them out for it.
Speaker AOther people aren't afraid to share negative reviews.
Speaker AIt's like a social moral system that keeps the whole system honest.
Speaker AThat's why working on your reputation, being a good person, being authentic, being trustworthy, having good moral standards is good for business.
Speaker ABecause when you are breaking those things, people are going to talk about it.
Speaker AThere's like a moral societal obligation to call out bad actors.
Speaker ASo just be good in the first place.
Speaker AJust be moral in the first place.
Speaker ABe ethical off the bat.
Speaker AEvery structure that we have built as humans, from governments to marriage to markets, exists to create predictability.
Speaker ABecause predictability allows trust to exist.
Speaker AAnd trust isn't built on perfection.
Speaker AIt's built on consistency.
Speaker AHow are you consistently showing up in the world week over week, month over month, year over year?
Speaker AThe brain equates predictability with safety.
Speaker AAnd safety is what unlocks decisions, relationships and long term partnerships.
Speaker AWhen people know what to expect from you, they stop feeling the need to guard themselves.
Speaker AThat's when business really starts to thrive.
Speaker APredictability builds trust because of three things.
Speaker ANumber one, the brain craves patterns.
Speaker AWhen behavior is consistent, the amygdala, your fear center, relaxes, and the logical brain, your prefrontal cortex, engages.
Speaker ANumber two, unpredictability triggers caution.
Speaker AIf a client doesn't know what version of you is showing up late versus on time, over promising versus delivering.
Speaker ATheir brain stays in defensive mode if they don't know what to expect.
Speaker AIf you're not predictable, if you didn't show up to the first meeting on time, they have no reason to think you're going to show up the second time.
Speaker AIf you miss a delivery date on a project, they now assume that you're going to miss it on the regular.
Speaker AThey want to know what is predictable.
Speaker ASo you need to make sure that no matter what with your clients, that you are predictable, that you are showing up the same way each and every time, that you're early for those meetings, that you're not over promising and under delivering.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AYou have to make sure that we are stacking the consistency in our favor to build trust, to build reliability, and to build safety.
Speaker AAnd number three, predictability equals reliability.
Speaker AOver time, repeated reliability becomes trust and trust becomes Loyalty.
Speaker AClients will not always go for the best price.
Speaker AThat is the simple truth.
Speaker AAnd I've seen it over and over and over again when I look at the relationships that I built in my 10 years working at Enrity, many times I sat in an office across from a client and that client would look at me and say, kelly, I got a call from your competitor this week and I just hung up on them.
Speaker AI told them I had zero interest in working with them.
Speaker AWe were already using your company.
Speaker AThat's powerful.
Speaker AThat's the power of trust.
Speaker AWhy did they do that?
Speaker ANo, it wasn't because we were the best price.
Speaker AIt was because he knew me.
Speaker AHe knew what to expect.
Speaker AHe knew that I would show up and bend over backwards and make sure that his company was looked after before anything else.
Speaker AAnd it was that.
Speaker AIt was that consistency over time.
Speaker AThey'd been clients for years.
Speaker AThey knew what to expect.
Speaker AThey knew that I was going to show up and deliver.
Speaker AAnd that consistency built trust.
Speaker AAnd that trust built loyalty.
Speaker AIncredible loyalty.
Speaker AAbout this point in my show notes, guys, when I was doing my research for the episode, I started asking myself, if trust is both essential and socially ingrained, why is it not automatic?
Speaker AWhy don't we just start there?
Speaker AWhy doesn't everybody just trust that when I show up with XYZ product or when you show up with X, Y, Z product to just give it a go?
Speaker ALike, why do we have to work so hard to build trust if it's just so socially ingrained?
Speaker ARight?
Speaker AIt's a totally fair question and one that I was asking myself at this point as well.
Speaker AAnd here's what I found, guys.
Speaker ATrust is not automatic for one reason, and it's because survival is not automatic.
Speaker AHumans evolved in an environment where misplaced trust could be fatal and was fatal a lot of the time.
Speaker AOur ancestors had to assess constantly who was safe, who was lying, who was loyal and who might betray them.
Speaker AThat same survival wiring still exists today, even though the stakes are now financial or emotional instead of physical.
Speaker ASo while society teaches us to cooperate and depend on one another, our biology warns us to protect ourselves first.
Speaker AThe result is a built in tension between society and human nature.
Speaker ASociety assumes trust and your biology questions it every chance it gets.
Speaker AThat's why trust is earned, not given.
Speaker AIt's a biological safeguard that ensures we don't hand over vulnerability to the wrong person who might kill us.
Speaker AIn business, this dynamic plays out the same way.
Speaker AA prospect wants to trust.
Speaker AThey need vendors, partners and advisors to operate, but their brain, at the very same time Is running an invisible checklist?
Speaker AAre these guys credible?
Speaker AAre they consistent?
Speaker AAre they self interested or mutually invested?
Speaker AWill I regret giving them access to my money or my reputation?
Speaker AEvery interaction either calms or activates that primitive defense mechanism.
Speaker AYour job in business development isn't to demand trust.
Speaker AIt's to create enough evidence, predictability and emotional safety that the other person's brain decides to take the leap anyway.
Speaker AThey weigh it out and they realize that it's safer to trust you than it is to run the other way.
Speaker AIf we accept that trust is not automatic, then our job in business development is to work with the human trust system, not against it.
Speaker AWe have to work with the biological rules.
Speaker AWhen we work against them, we lose.
Speaker AHere are five powerful steps that that work within the human trust system to help you build trust faster, deeper and more successfully with your future prospects.
Speaker ANumber one, we have to create emotional safety before logic, before credibility, before anything.
Speaker APeople must feel safe with you.
Speaker ABe calm, composed and authentic in tone and body language.
Speaker ARemove pressure and focus on connection, not conversion.
Speaker AConnection first through authenticity, through genuine interaction.
Speaker AMirror their energy and meet them where they are.
Speaker ARemember, safety unlocks access to trust.
Speaker AWithout safety, there can be no trust.
Speaker ASafety must come first.
Speaker ANumber two, Demonstrate reliability through consistency.
Speaker APeople trust what they can predict.
Speaker AEvery action, message and follow up should align.
Speaker ADo what you say exactly when you say you will be consistent in tone, availability and professionalism.
Speaker AAvoid surprises.
Speaker AClarity creates safety.
Speaker AClarity creates safety.
Speaker AEach repetition reinforces the mental model this person delivers.
Speaker AIf we can make that what people think about you, if that can be your reputation, you will have trust everywhere you go.
Speaker ANumber three, show competence with clarity and simplicity.
Speaker AOnce people feel safe and consistent, patterns are set.
Speaker AThey look for proof that you can actually deliver on what you say.
Speaker BWhen?
Speaker AWhich is the other piece of this?
Speaker AIt's not enough to just say you can do something, you have to deliver on it as well.
Speaker ADo not promise things that you cannot do.
Speaker ANot over promise and under deliver.
Speaker AIt is the fastest way to lose trust.
Speaker AAlways make sure that you are consistent in what you promise people and that you can actually deliver on it.
Speaker AExplain your process clearly and transparently.
Speaker ASimplify complex ideas into easily understandable actions.
Speaker AUse examples and stories that mirror their world.
Speaker ASpeak to your customers in stories and examples that they can actually relate to.
Speaker AThat makes sense to them.
Speaker AThe clearer and more rational that you are, the more credible that you become.
Speaker ANumber four, Build mutual empathy and vulnerability.
Speaker ATrust requires human connection, not perfection.
Speaker AListen deeply and reflect what you hear.
Speaker ASay back to people what they say to you to show them you're listening.
Speaker AShare personal insights or lessons learned.
Speaker AAuthenticity breeds reliability and your experience is critical and important.
Speaker AAcknowledge their challenges sincerely.
Speaker ADon't just brush them off.
Speaker ATheir challenges are challenges to them.
Speaker AAlways show them they matter to you too.
Speaker AVulnerability signals authenticity.
Speaker AShow people you're in the fight with them.
Speaker AIt's super powerful.
Speaker AAnd number five, reinforce trust through follow through.
Speaker ATrust compounds through actions.
Speaker ARight actions speak louder than words.
Speaker AEvery fulfilled promise adds weight to your credibility.
Speaker AEvery time you show up, it becomes who you are.
Speaker AAnd that weight follows you throughout your entire career.
Speaker AAlways close the loop.
Speaker AReport back, check in, deliver.
Speaker ALike I said earlier on, give them the reports.
Speaker ALet them know what's going on.
Speaker AKeep your customers involved in what you're doing for them.
Speaker AKeep them in the loop.
Speaker AShow them you're doing what you said you would do.
Speaker ACelebrate wins, admit missteps, and stay transparent.
Speaker AGuys, I literally missed a meeting last week and I was preparing for a speech and it completely slipped my mind and I had to go back and apologize.
Speaker AAnd the first thing I said was, this was 100% my fault.
Speaker AI owned it.
Speaker AOwn your mistakes and stay transparent.
Speaker AOnce again, it creates safety and it shows that you are dependable.
Speaker AIt shows that you're somebody who's not afraid to stand up when you make a mistake.
Speaker AShow up.
Speaker ALive with authenticity.
Speaker ALive with integrity, and you will live with credibility.
Speaker AThe brain updates trust continuously.
Speaker AEach confirmation of reliability strengthens the neural pathways from skepticism to certainty.
Speaker ARemember, at the end of the day, business development isn't about persuasion.
Speaker AIt isn't about the perfect pitch, the clever message, or even the best offer.
Speaker AIt's about trust.
Speaker ANone of those things matter if you don't have trust, too.
Speaker ATrust is the invisible current running beneath every deal, every relationship, every, every opportunity.
Speaker AIt's not automatic because our biology protects us before it connects us.
Speaker APeople want to trust, but they need to feel safe first.
Speaker ASo if you want to build stronger partnerships, close more business and create real influence, don't chase trust, earn it.
Speaker AShow up the same way every time.
Speaker ADo what you say you'll do.
Speaker ABe human, be clear, and lead with empathy.
Speaker AOnce you understand how the human trust system works, you stop trying to sell people and you start helping their nervous system decide.
Speaker AI'm safe with you.
Speaker AAnd that is where the opportunity begins.
Speaker AAnd that takes us to the end of today's show.
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