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I'm back, bitches. Well, well,
well. Hello again, my beautiful screamers,

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and welcome to the very first
episode of ScreamQueenz Reborn. This

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is episode one, and tonight
we. We're going to talk about a movie

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that's so damn good, I came
back from the dead for it. And that

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movie is Saint Drogo by those
crazy boys over at Monster Makeup.

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The same folks who brought you
Death Drop Gorgeous are back with

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a bit of queer folk horror
that's so frightening it'll make

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your hair stand on it, and it
might even give you a boner. And

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in order to make this occasion
truly momentous, I am joined by fabulous

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world famous actor Dan
Domingues. But before we do any of

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that, please allow me to
reintroduce myself and hello, my

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name is Patrick Walsh, and
once upon a time I was the host of

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ScreamQueenz, the podcast
where horror gets gay. But I retired.

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I was there for 17 years. But
now I'm back for one night only.

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One night only. That's all
you're going to get. Because I warned

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you, when a movie came along
that was so damn good, I absolutely

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had to talk about it, I would
rise from the dead, and here I am.

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So now you got to deal with
me. Yeah, but Patrick, what's been

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going on at ScreamQueenz
headquarters since last July when

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you left us? First of all, I
didn't leave you. I just.

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Never.

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Behindmind. We're not getting
into that. Aside from the world outside

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going to hell, things at
ScreamQueenz headquarters have been

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surprisingly good. Retiring
the show was the best move I could

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have made. I feel so much
better than I did then without the

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constant stress of having to
put out a show every week. The Brain

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Fog. I couldn't tell you the
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And because I found that the
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was going to the gym every
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and a Zumba queen. Not only is
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also looking, as the kids
would say, snatched. Win, Win. Damn

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you. Uncle Lewis is up and
running publicly now, which is awesome.

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It came in the 70s, about to
start running again, and about to

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start doing interviews for our
upcoming new show, behind the Screamz,

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where I talk to queer horror
filmmakers about what's going on.

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I'm interviewing Roger Connors
next month to talk about his gay

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slasher movie, Meet. So things
are going well on that front. So

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yay to better health and yay
to happier workspaces. But here's

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the ironic thing. You know how
I've said on the old ScreamQueenz,

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I used to say many, many times
that one of my favorite horror tropes

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is a house full of rich,
eccentric cunts that all secretly

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hate each other. Being stuck
in a house waiting for. A will to

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be read, and they. Kill each
other off one by one. Well, I'm stuck

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in that scenario for real
right now because as many of you

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know, my dad passed away in
January, and that was very sad. But

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the whole thing with his will
has been dragging on for a really

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long time now. And I'm seeing
the truly ugly side of my family

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members. And I wasn't in a
good space with them anyway. But

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not to see them as all as
money hungry, grubby, icky people.

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It's just been a real eye
opener. And let's just say the trope

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is not so much fun when you're
living it. But hopefully that will

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be over soon. But pretty much
that's all I got is secret ninja

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boots is here. She says I'm
fabulous, but that's classified.

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Don't tell anybody. But most
of all, I'm happy to be sitting here

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with you right here, right
now. Because I've said this before.

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I'll probably say 15 times
more in this episode. I waited for

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so long for Saint Drogo to get
released. I kept ScreamQueenz running

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for months longer than I
should have going, maybe they'll

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release it this month. Maybe
the release this because I needed

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to talk about it with you,
because this movie, so damn good.

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But it's finally happening
now. But here's the trick, kids.

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As you know, I can't talk
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Not the way I need to talk
about it. Because the movie, this

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movie's got a lot going on in
the best way possible. There's layers

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and layers upon layers of
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the surface, it's the way deep
into beneath the surface. And that's

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what makes it so damn good.
But in order to do that, I'm gonna

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have to spoil it. But the
problem is, everybody, it's not a

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problem. It's a chance. It's
not a hurt. It's not a challenge.

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It's a hurdle. It's not a
hurdle. It's an obstacle. It's. It's

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a thing. Here's the thing,
kids. It's not streaming anywhere.

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The folks over at Monster
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movie independently rather
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right now, it's only available
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for the low, low price of just
$25. And when I tell you that this

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movie is worth every penny, I
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with Monster Makeup in any
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not giving me any money to
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up this film for you. This is
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for you. I came back from the
dead because I needed to tell you

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about how great this movie is
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am imploring you, support
independent horror and go buy Saint

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Drogo on Blu Ray right now. I
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the show notes. You have no
excuses. I know you're excited to

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hear me, but by all means, if
you can wait a little bit longer,

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get that Blu Ray for us,
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It's scary as hell. It's sexy
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it's gay, gay, gay, gay, gay,
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I know times are tough. I know
things are hard. I know blind buys

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are a hard thing to do. You
gotta feel it or you don't. I still

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am giving you an out in this
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all the way up to the finale
of Saint Drogo. And then we're going

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to stop and we're going to
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If you don't want to find out
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to stop listening right about
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show. And if you dare to go
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the ending of the film.
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the film has to be discussed
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you don't want that ruined,
you can either buy the DVD or not

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listen to the end of the show.
The choice is yours. But you got

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to make the choice right now,
because it's time for me to start

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the show. Bring on Dan
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Saint Drogo. Hallelujah. He is risen.

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Got a package.

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Hey, it's Caleb. Had this
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other night. Let's get away
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Can I help you boys with something?

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I really don't want to spend
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I'm looking for a friend of mine.

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There's no use searching for
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Wait, what?

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What if we file the missing
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Addicts Go missing all the
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Their bodies show up in the spring.

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Since we've gotten here, I
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You're leaving out of bed at
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dream you had?

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You're scared.

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What is it about this place?

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Boys come, they get caught in
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You are more than welcome
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Leave, leave alone.

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I'm not gonna go without you.

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Hail Saint Srogo Hail Saint Drogo

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When ScreamQueenz podcast
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up, I had a short list of
films that were still on the festival

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circuit that I was really
holding out. I said, please, please

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get released before I have to
retire so I can cover you. And they

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didn't, those bastards, not a
single one of them. But one of the

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stipulations I said to myself
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Because I said, when these
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to bring the show back and I
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back from the dead. And here I
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tonight's movie, Saint Drogo,
is one of those films. And since

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it's a very special film and
it's not your average queer horror

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film, I needed somebody who
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And who better? Who better
been everybody's favorite dimple

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leading man, the fabulous Dan
Domingues. Dan Domingues, welcome

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back to Scream. Please welcome
back to ScreamQueenzReborn.

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Thank you. Patrick, you look.
Your reborn self looks gorgeous.

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Well, I still got all my own.
Placenta all over my face.

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Keep it, keep it. Find some
more placentas, keep spreading it,

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because we are pulling you out
of retirement to. For. Yeah. Thank

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you so much for having me.
It's a thrill to see you. It's a

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thrill to be here and a thrill
to be able to talk about this film.

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Dan Domingues, it has been a
long time since you've been here.

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What have you been up to?
Where have you been?

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I have been all over the
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City. I am living in New
Jersey. My life has taken so many

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different turns. I have been
traveling for work a lot. I have

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a new person in my life. And
yeah, there's just been, you know,

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I went through a breakup three
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my life. But I'm, you know,
and I was together with this person

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for 21 years. And so as you
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to sort of get back on my
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I am, here you are.

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You're still standing still.
Just like Elaine Stretch, you're

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still here. God bless you.
Very glad to have you back.

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Thank you.

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You have not been here since
Devil Dog, the Hound of Hell. And

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that was a thousand years ago.

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It was. Yeah, yeah.

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All right, so.

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Damn.

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You know what? It still
screamed Queens. Even though we're

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back from the dead,. The
traditions still stand. Dan Domingues,

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I need you to make up for the
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and give me a nice, tight 30
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Saint Drogo. The clock starts now.

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Caleb and Adrian are a couple
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They're both having this
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dying violently on a beach in
P Town. So they decide to take a

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vacation to P Town, both to
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also to track down what
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there. He sent a message that
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And so they show up in P Town.
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And there are. And secrets
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the truth and they find some
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Yes. Curiosity kills the cats.

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Oh, my gosh. It kills a lot of things.

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Things? These cats are dead.

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Well, no, not a lot of things.
There's not a big body count in this

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movie we should see.

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No, there's not.

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But the people who are dead are.

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Really, really, really dead.

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They're really dead.

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I would say for my shady 30
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gay.

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That's a good one. Everybody
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in P Town, so everyone is
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that's a good one. The Wicker
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own mythology, which is fun.
Which is always nice when you see.

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When you come across something
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A little bit like shadow over Innismeth.

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Dagon and I. I've said on the
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the fog and when we covered
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a coastal town with a dirty
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One of my favorite things hits
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my G spot. It hits my.

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You already said it. It's
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been hit. 10. It's been hit.

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It hits my movie G spot. I
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a seaside town, but somewhere
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Not a lot of people around.
There's a. There was a movie from

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a couple of years ago called
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seen that. I think it's on
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vibe. Yeah. I love the mood,
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It's like, ripe for horror and suspense.

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And just to double down on
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just that it's an isolated,
deserted, creepy town. It's not always

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during the summer. It's a
Mecca. It's paradise. It's gay heaven.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But not now. Not now. No, not
now. One of the things I love about

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it is that I mentioned that
these are the same folks who did

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Death Job. Gorgeous. This
movie looks, feels, sounds, acts,

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runs. Nothing like that Job or
you would never think it was the

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same people. No.

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No.

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Who made the film.

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The two tones are completely
different. The filmmaking, cinematography.

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I would even go as far as
saying, obviously the performances

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are. It's a completely
different sort of approach and style.

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Yeah. If you saw these. If
you. If you saw these siloed, you

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wouldn't probably be able to
tell that it was the same filmmakers.

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Yeah. The added plus is if you
see both movies, watch this one and

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try to figure out who's who of drag.

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Yeah. These filmmakers are
creating their repertoire of actors.

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Right.

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They've got their stable when
they're on the show. I joked. I imagine

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I've always pictured ABBA and
the Human League. ABBA and the Human

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League. I kind of always
pictured them all sleeping in the

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same bed like the grandparents
from Charlie and the Chocolate factoy

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I kind of picture everybody
from this company do the same thing.

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Because they all know each other.

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They all. They all do
everything. Yeah. Like, if he knows.

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Everybody wrote this.
Everybody directed. The people who

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wrote and directed are acting
in it. So everybody's doing everything.

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Three directors. I didn't
realize that until after I watched.

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Watched it, that three people
directed this movie. First of all,

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how does that happen? How do
you do that on a set? And then second

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of all, watching this movie,
it seems so consistent. You wouldn't

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imagine that three people
directed this. It seems like one

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person's vision. So they must
know each other. I mean, you met

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them. They must like
Simpatico. They must know each other

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really well.

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Yes. That's why I pictured the
Whole big bed. They're way too simpatico.

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They're beyond simpatico.
There's some like that happens in

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this movie too.

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We'll talk about it.

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You know what?

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There's a lot of people to get
to simpatico Yeah. Okay. But yeah,

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the writers and the directors
are also the main actors. So Adrian,

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Caleb and also the boss from
the first segment of the film. All

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right. I don't want to go plot
by plot point, but sure. Dan, Walk

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me through the cold open. Walk
me through this opening scene. Drop

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me into the world of Saint Drogo.

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Well, the movie, the movie
starts really strong. It drops us

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into what we discover is a
nightmare. One of the characters

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is having a nightmare or is
it? Well, yeah, we don't know. It's

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a scene that will also
replicate itself later, but it's

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a guy on a beach and there's a
guy on a beach and then there's a

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guy in a cloak and the guy on
the beach dies violently. Self inflicted

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wound dies violently. And
then, you know, we are at their,

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you know, we're in their
bedroom when we realize that it's

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a dream. So it's a pretty
strong opening. Very strong opening.

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And I do love a strong
opening. No, but no, 100%.

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Once the movie started, I'm
like, we are not in the club scene

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from the last move. We are not
in a happy place. We are not in it.

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This, this is not gonna be
camp. This is totally different.

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Even the atonal music. Yeah,
just the open, that long opening

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shot of just this glaring
winter sun blinding you is. Is incredible.

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And then this guy, he's
gutting himself.

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Long, long loving shot of this
guy cutting himself and just letting

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everything flop. With this
creepy figure just standing behind.

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Him and watching you put a guy
in a hooded. What do you call that?

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Like a hooded shroud or
whatever it is immediately creepy.

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Right? And then what is it
called when someone cuts their guts

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out? Is that. Is that self
immolation or is what. It's disembowelment.

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Disembowelment, yes. Self
immolation is setting yourself on

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fire. And we should say the
special effects, the disembowelment.

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Really good. Really good. Very
convincing. Very gross. So very upset.

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Very.

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And broad daylight.

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Broad daylight. Daylight. So
there's nowhere to hide for these

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either. So it's a very strong
opening. You have my attention.

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Yeah, absolutely. On a beach,
a place that is usually a, you know,

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a fun place, a place of
safety, A place where getting sun

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and they give us this really
graphic image. Yeah. What I love

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too is that this scene is so
upsetting. I. I screened it for my

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movie folks here that we lost
people immediately. Some people,

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like, you know what? This is
not for me. I'm out.

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I'm out. Because they're
expect. Wait, I'm out! Because they

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expect the whole movie is
going to be like this. I can't do

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this. The whole movie's not
like that. But the threat of that

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hangs over the whole movie.
This feeling of dread like that could

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happen at any moment.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Anytime . This is what we can do.

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You knew there's another shoe, right?

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When are we going to do it?

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Will we come?

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We're going to do it. Yeah.
Yeah. So you wait. You spend the

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whole movie waiting for the
other shoe to drop. And when it does,

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it drops on. So tell me about
Caleb and Adrian. Tell me about them.

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Tell me about the boys.

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Well, visually, the film gives
us their relationship right at the

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beginning. Right? Like we see
them lying in bed, but they're completely

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separate. They're not
touching, they're not spooning, they're

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not cuddling. They're not even
draping one arm over each other.

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And so visually, without any,
any dialogue, we get an immediate

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sense of where their
relationship is at.

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Actually, Dan, I'm gonna have
to correct you here because the first

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time we see Caleb and Adrian
is in a framed photo. Not when they're

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in the bed. The very first
time we see them, they're in. It's

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a framed photo of them.
They're smiling, they're happy, they're

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embracing. The sun is shining.
It's the perfect photo of the perfect

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couple. And then, smash. We
cut to them in the bed in real time.

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They're facing away from each
other in the dark with like a foot

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of space between them. It's
completely opposite of what we just.

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Saw in the photo. It's like,
this is where we were, but this is

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where we are. This is the
fantasy we put out. To the world,

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but this is the actual
reality. And I know, okay, it seems

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like. A minor point, but for
me it's. An example of the excellent

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use of non verbal storytelling
that we get constantly throughout

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the film. Throughout the whole
movie. Dialogue is used sparsely

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and it's used well. And
they're able to pull it off because

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so much is being told without
words. Moments like this, because

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we learn everything about
these two as a couple in a matter

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of seconds without a word
being spoken. And I think that's

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really neat. Please continue,
Dan. Tell me more about Caleb and

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Adrian.

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They're distant, they're not
connecting. They're both in a way,

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you know, financially a little
bit unstable. Their jobs, you know.

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I think Adrian has just
started a new job after being unemployed

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for a long time. Caleb is a
tattoo artist, I believe, but is.

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Yeah, I think so. I'm not sure
it was that.

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It wasn't totally clear.

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It wasn't super clear, but
that's the. Same impression I got.

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So I guess there must be
visual storytelling that told us

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that this movie's very good at
the visual story, the non verbal

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storytelling.

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It's great. Yeah. I mean he's
drawing on a pad, he's drawing pictures

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and then he's covered in
tattoos. So I thought he was a tattoo

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artist. And he's like putting
clients off, rescheduling clients.

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So the two of them, they're
just not connecting. And we get a

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lot of visual cues to that,
which is really smart filmmaking.

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Like you don't. We don't have
to have all the friggin dialogue

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about. I'm mad at you, I'm
pissed at you. It's. Yeah, it's great.

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What are you doing?

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Having a beer.

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Yeah, I see that. We have
dinner plans. Remember we reminded

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you yesterday. Oh my God.

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Can you just go without me?

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I'm not gonna go without you.
We've postponed this dinner date

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for like months now.

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Well, maybe they should take a hint.

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Can you please just come, Adrian?

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Honestly, I'm pretty beat.

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You're pretty beat?

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Must be real taxing doodling
on a sketch pad in your underwear.

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One of the things that
appreciate that. I appreciate about

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both films and I have Dan to
watch Death Drop Gorgeous as well,

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so. And he didn't finish the
whole thing because he wasn't feeling

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well and that's okay. But one
of the things that the strongest

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things about both of these
films for me is that how unapologetically

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gay they are. Yeah, I watch
enough queer horror films and you

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know, queer films in general,.
There always seems to be this sense.

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That we're look how normal we
are. There always seems to be like

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many. Of them try to appease a
straight audience, try to make the

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Straits feel comfortable, but
neither one of these movies do that.

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They drop you into these
situations and just say no, it's

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gay. Deal with it. Right? This
couple, they're going to have a threesome

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with a stranger they just
picked up and they're going to do

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drugs. And it's not going to
be a. Big deal because that's how

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it is in our community. If you
have a Problem with it. Other movies

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would make. They have to fight
about it a long time and it would

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ruin their relationship later
on. No, we're just going to drop

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this in. It happens because it
happens. Yeah. Warts and all approach

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to gay community, which I.
Which I appreciated.

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Yeah. I. I thought in Death
Drop, gorgeous as. As insanely over

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the top. It is the way they
dealt with, you know, online culture,

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how people connect on the
apps. I mean, ageism. Yeah, ageism.

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A lot of that rang true to me.
And so these guys know what they're

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talking about and. Yeah, I
just loved. I loved in this film

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how the relationship is just
treated as any other relationship,

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but that we also get to see
the issues that plague spec. Gay

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relationships.

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I love. Yeah. Sorry.

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No, no, no, it's. Yeah, I
think you're totally right.

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I love that they're not the
perfect couple. They're not perfect.

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They're problematic from the
beginning, but we don't hate them

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for it either. We don't hate
either one of them. We see both of

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them are problems, but we
don't. We don't turn on them.

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Right.

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I mean, we. We kind of, as the
movie goes on because someone's very,

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very stubborn. But that's the
way things. This is. Yeah. Yeah.

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Things got to play out.

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Yeah.

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I also like that these two
guys would not be played by these

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two guys in most other gay
films. It'd be skinny, hairless dudes.

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I loved these two guys. I
thought they were so cute.

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Aren't they great? Aren't they
great? Hi, Brandon. Hi, Mikey.

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They're so you can please let
them know. I thought they were so

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handsome. I mean, but you're
right, they're handsome, but they're

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relatable. And they are. I
don't know. I also bought these two

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as a couple, right?

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Yeah.

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Like, what, have they been
together a year? I think it says

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in the film. I think they say
in the film or something like that,

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but I'm not sure. But I
totally bought them as a couple.

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Couple. But I thought they
were cute as buttons.

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100%.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. I just want these crazy
kids to make it. I.

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Come on.

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one of the things I enjoy too

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On the second watch, what the
movie is hinging on is this whole

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nightmare that Caleb wakes up for.

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Actually. Turns out they both
have the same nightmare, right? Yeah,

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yeah, both of them have the
same nightmare. Oh, just for clarification,

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the nightmare that they're
both having is the scene that we

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saw at the beginning with the
man gutting himself ritualistically

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on the Beach. And it's only
now that we're learning just who

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that man is. Or was. Whatever.
Please continue.

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You okay?

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Yeah, I'm fine. I'm just
having this really weird dream in

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P town, actually. Or maybe I'm
just thinking about P town because

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you mentioned it earlier.

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Well, what happens in the dream?

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I don't really remember. Some
of the details are kind of fuzzy

439
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,240
now, but Isaac is there.

440
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:19,960
And.

441
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,000
Is he on a beach?

442
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,280
Yeah. How did you know that?

443
00:23:24,599 --> 00:23:28,880
I think we might be having the
same dream. No, no, honestly, hear

444
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,280
me out. Isaac's on a beach.
He's digging through some seaweed.

445
00:23:32,360 --> 00:23:33,640
This is a guy in a cloak.

446
00:23:34,450 --> 00:23:34,810
I don't know.

447
00:23:34,810 --> 00:23:35,770
I'm kind of worried about him.

448
00:23:35,770 --> 00:23:37,650
Caleb, it was a dream. He's fine.

449
00:23:37,810 --> 00:23:40,170
I haven't heard from him in a
month. He's not responding to any

450
00:23:40,170 --> 00:23:40,890
of my texts.

451
00:23:40,890 --> 00:23:43,330
Didn't he just send you a
photo of himself?

452
00:23:43,650 --> 00:23:45,890
He said he was staying in P
town through the off season.

453
00:23:47,170 --> 00:23:50,570
Is this why you wanted to go
to P Town? Because Isaac is having

454
00:23:50,570 --> 00:23:52,530
too much fun to respond to
your texts?

455
00:23:52,610 --> 00:23:55,570
When I brought up P Town, I
didn't have Isaac in mind. Okay,

456
00:23:56,050 --> 00:23:57,890
but don't you think it's a
little weird that we're having the

457
00:23:57,890 --> 00:23:58,610
same dream?

458
00:23:59,010 --> 00:24:03,910
Okay, yes, it's weird. We had
similar dreams. You're a sucker for

459
00:24:03,910 --> 00:24:06,350
this shit, Caleb. You think
everything is a sign.

460
00:24:06,510 --> 00:24:08,430
Okay, but what happens in your dream?

461
00:24:08,590 --> 00:24:12,590
I told you. Don't remember.
You can go back to your fantasy about

462
00:24:12,590 --> 00:24:14,510
Isaac and go take a Valium.

463
00:24:15,710 --> 00:24:16,910
Who's the guy in the dream?

464
00:24:17,630 --> 00:24:22,230
The guy in the dream is
Caleb's ex, right? Yeah. What is

465
00:24:22,230 --> 00:24:23,950
his name? I forgot the
character's name already.

466
00:24:23,950 --> 00:24:24,430
Isaac.

467
00:24:24,590 --> 00:24:26,740
Isaac, Right, right.

468
00:24:27,060 --> 00:24:30,660
Yeah. And coincidentally that
morning, Caleb receives a package

469
00:24:30,660 --> 00:24:33,060
in the mail from Isaac. Dried
up roses and a picture. And that's

470
00:24:33,060 --> 00:24:33,300
it?

471
00:24:33,300 --> 00:24:33,780
Yeah.

472
00:24:33,860 --> 00:24:37,060
So now he's got Isaac on the
brain and he's realizing that he

473
00:24:37,060 --> 00:24:39,780
hasn't seen Isaac in a long
time. I haven't spoken to Isaac.

474
00:24:39,940 --> 00:24:43,180
I don't know where he is or.
Or how he is. And now this package

475
00:24:43,180 --> 00:24:43,820
is cryptic.

476
00:24:43,820 --> 00:24:44,460
There's no note.

477
00:24:44,460 --> 00:24:47,740
What the fuck does it mean?
And on top of it, now I'm dreaming

478
00:24:47,740 --> 00:24:51,460
of Isaac killing himself. I
need to get in touch with Isaac now.

479
00:24:51,700 --> 00:24:55,460
Hey, it's Caleb. I got your
picture and flowers in the mail today.

480
00:24:55,620 --> 00:24:58,620
Next time just send a
postcard. You're weird. Know. Anyways,

481
00:24:58,620 --> 00:25:02,780
I haven't heard from you in a
while and had this really bizarre

482
00:25:02,780 --> 00:25:05,100
dream about you the other
night and just wanted to check in

483
00:25:05,420 --> 00:25:07,820
and what's this about you
staying in P Town over the winter?

484
00:25:09,100 --> 00:25:12,700
Yeah, give me a call when you
get this. I hope you're okay. Bye.

485
00:25:15,020 --> 00:25:18,620
Let's go to P Town and see
what's up. So everything's revolving

486
00:25:18,620 --> 00:25:21,180
around this trip to P Town.
What's P Town?

487
00:25:21,340 --> 00:25:25,140
Oh, Provincetown,
Massachusetts. It's like. It's a

488
00:25:25,140 --> 00:25:29,720
resort town that in the summer
explodes well, in many ways.

489
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,360
Internally and externally.

490
00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:36,280
It is a gay mecca. A lot of
gay men go and live in P Town. I've

491
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,600
been to P Town several times.
But it should also be said that when

492
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,480
I've been there, a lot of
families are there, a lot of people

493
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,279
from Boston, a lot of people
from other cities in Massachusetts.

494
00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:50,200
So it is. It is a resorty
family, but also very, very gay.

495
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:56,450
You know, it's like. It's like
Fire island, just a little bit more

496
00:25:56,450 --> 00:25:58,410
diverse, I would say.

497
00:25:58,730 --> 00:26:01,290
It's. It's definitely a queer,
queer run economy.

498
00:26:01,690 --> 00:26:02,170
Yes.

499
00:26:02,250 --> 00:26:04,290
That. That's where. That's
where the money's coming from. Without

500
00:26:04,290 --> 00:26:07,610
the gay community making it a
resort. Yeah. The other people wouldn't

501
00:26:07,610 --> 00:26:10,410
be there, but anyway. But what
was fun to watch on a second time.

502
00:26:10,410 --> 00:26:14,170
I'd forgotten, like, when the
movie was over the first time. I'm

503
00:26:14,170 --> 00:26:16,970
shocked by the whole ending,
the whole story and everything. I've

504
00:26:16,970 --> 00:26:19,410
forgotten the stuff that
happens before they go on the trip.

505
00:26:19,410 --> 00:26:21,650
I loved all the setup stuff.
Yeah. Where do you get to meet the

506
00:26:21,650 --> 00:26:26,090
sets of Friends? The shitty
gay friend. Like I was saying, it

507
00:26:26,090 --> 00:26:27,610
was gorgeous.

508
00:26:28,250 --> 00:26:30,090
We've already booked again for
next year.

509
00:26:30,490 --> 00:26:31,890
Extended our stay too.

510
00:26:31,890 --> 00:26:33,370
We'll be gone most of July.

511
00:26:34,170 --> 00:26:35,370
That is so awesome.

512
00:26:36,170 --> 00:26:38,170
You both went away this summer
too, right?

513
00:26:39,290 --> 00:26:39,850
Nope.

514
00:26:41,130 --> 00:26:45,290
Yeah, I got hired at the
beginning of the summer, so unfortunately

515
00:26:45,370 --> 00:26:47,340
I couldn't take any time off.

516
00:26:47,580 --> 00:26:52,860
Oh, that's right. How is it
not being on fun employment anymore?

517
00:26:53,500 --> 00:26:55,740
Well, Adrian's paying right now.

518
00:26:58,380 --> 00:27:03,620
It's really great. I love my
new job. I seriously couldn't be

519
00:27:03,620 --> 00:27:04,140
happier.

520
00:27:07,740 --> 00:27:13,020
Well, there's always next
year. .

521
00:27:13,020 --> 00:27:14,660
The other thing that I think
is Great about this movie, that it's

522
00:27:14,660 --> 00:27:17,540
an hour and 20 minutes and
nothing is filler. No, very little

523
00:27:17,540 --> 00:27:21,100
filler in this. It's. It's
very streamlined. It's really well

524
00:27:21,100 --> 00:27:26,060
paced. We get hints in the
beginning that, you know, Adrian

525
00:27:26,060 --> 00:27:30,940
is flirting with. Is it. Is it
his boss, a co worker? Yes, that's.

526
00:27:30,940 --> 00:27:34,020
It's his boss, Ryan Miller,
who's the other writer. Director.

527
00:27:34,020 --> 00:27:36,740
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And again,
they make a cute couple too. Oh,

528
00:27:36,740 --> 00:27:39,420
my gosh. I would be very happy
to watch the make out for a while,

529
00:27:39,420 --> 00:27:41,990
but we don't get to see that.
But it's fine. Whatever we got planned

530
00:27:44,220 --> 00:27:46,900
the sequel. It was fun to
revisit all this. Stuff with the

531
00:27:46,900 --> 00:27:49,100
shitty gay friends because. It
turns out all the dialogue is important.

532
00:27:49,100 --> 00:27:52,180
It all is echoing stuff that
will come up and be important later.

533
00:27:52,180 --> 00:27:53,860
Ye  ah,it's all. It's all
great stuff.

534
00:27:54,140 --> 00:27:57,060
There's no wasted. Yeah.
There's no excess. There's no, like.

535
00:27:57,060 --> 00:28:00,060
Like you said, there's no
filler. They've trimmed the fat off

536
00:28:00,060 --> 00:28:04,580
this story so that it's. It's
both. It's both complex and simple

537
00:28:04,580 --> 00:28:09,130
at the same time. And. And
what they're saying are things I've

538
00:28:09,130 --> 00:28:12,530
said in relationships. Right.
It just seems very, very. It all

539
00:28:12,530 --> 00:28:14,810
seems very grounded and very real.

540
00:28:14,810 --> 00:28:16,210
What, do you hang out with
those guys?

541
00:28:17,410 --> 00:28:20,930
I don't know. We've been
friends since college. They're really

542
00:28:20,930 --> 00:28:21,650
not that bad.

543
00:28:21,730 --> 00:28:25,410
Adrian, they're so fucking
basic. They bragged about their vacation

544
00:28:25,410 --> 00:28:26,690
for, like, over 30 minutes.

545
00:28:27,010 --> 00:28:30,290
Well, I'm sorry. All my
friends aren't artistic prodigies.

546
00:28:30,930 --> 00:28:32,610
All my friends aren't artists.

547
00:28:34,700 --> 00:28:37,940
Seriously, the number of
pretentious art openings you brought

548
00:28:37,940 --> 00:28:42,060
me to, all those ambient noise
rock shows, and I never say a peep,

549
00:28:42,220 --> 00:28:45,340
but the moment I ask. You to
accompany me to dinner with. My friends,

550
00:28:45,580 --> 00:28:47,180
it always has to be a production.

551
00:28:47,660 --> 00:28:48,940
Where is this coming from?

552
00:28:50,300 --> 00:28:52,620
Did you really have to bring
up the rent thing?

553
00:28:52,860 --> 00:28:53,580
What do you mean?

554
00:28:53,740 --> 00:28:56,620
I mean, in front of them. Did
you have to tell them that,.

555
00:28:56,860 --> 00:28:58,220
Oh, my God, who cares?

556
00:28:58,220 --> 00:29:00,910
And then blaming me for us not
going on vacation.

557
00:29:01,630 --> 00:29:03,870
Well, I mean, that is kind of
your fault.

558
00:29:04,750 --> 00:29:08,670
I know. I know. It's my fault
all the time. I'm sorry.

559
00:29:08,910 --> 00:29:13,190
Yeah, they do. They do say the
word fuck a alot.They. There's a

560
00:29:13,190 --> 00:29:14,830
lot of fucks In this movie.

561
00:29:15,550 --> 00:29:18,670
It's not a. It's not a Rob
Zombie level of fucks But is high

562
00:29:18,670 --> 00:29:18,710
on the fuckometer

563
00:29:19,710 --> 00:29:23,310
There is a high level of. Of.
Of adding the word fuck in the middle

564
00:29:23,310 --> 00:29:24,910
of. In Of. Of sentences.

565
00:29:25,230 --> 00:29:28,150
I'm very sensitive. I. I'm not
offended by it, but when words get

566
00:29:28,150 --> 00:29:30,750
repeated a lot, I do want to
say "buy a thesarus". It didn't strike

567
00:29:30,750 --> 00:29:35,710
me, or maybe getting jaded,
but like, rob. Rob Zombie. I want

568
00:29:35,710 --> 00:29:38,190
to buy us the stars. But come
on, Come on. Do better. Do better.

569
00:29:38,190 --> 00:29:41,470
Anyway, in any other. In any
other, like, in it, like a Rob Zombie

570
00:29:41,470 --> 00:29:43,870
movie, you're like, that's
lazy writing. Why. Why do you have

571
00:29:43,870 --> 00:29:48,070
to add so many in this one? I
noticed it, but also the emotions

572
00:29:48,070 --> 00:29:52,110
are High in this, in this
film. Like, so I buy it. I buy it.

573
00:29:52,190 --> 00:29:56,790
Yeah. And, and crazy happens.
So. Yeah. And the reason I, I, I

574
00:29:56,790 --> 00:30:01,300
say it's got a Wicker man vibe
is that that Caleb's drive to find

575
00:30:01,300 --> 00:30:05,420
his ex, somebody describes it
as. It's like you're a hound who's

576
00:30:05,420 --> 00:30:06,140
got the scent.

577
00:30:06,540 --> 00:30:08,900
Look, once we get this car
fixed, we're going back to the city,

578
00:30:08,900 --> 00:30:10,700
okay? I'm over this.

579
00:30:10,940 --> 00:30:14,779
Adrian, Listen, since we've
gotten here, I fell off like the

580
00:30:14,779 --> 00:30:17,940
second we rolled into town.
It's feel like there's this awful

581
00:30:17,940 --> 00:30:20,300
thing just hovering around me
and I can't get rid of it.

582
00:30:20,540 --> 00:30:22,060
You're like a hound with a scent.

583
00:30:23,100 --> 00:30:28,110
He can't not look for his ex.
He keeps promising. Adrian, no, no,

584
00:30:28,110 --> 00:30:30,070
no, no, no. We're not gonna do
this all weekend. We're gonna do

585
00:30:30,070 --> 00:30:32,510
this all weekend. This is all
we're gonna do. He doesn't even try.

586
00:30:32,510 --> 00:30:35,030
That's all he talks about. All
they do. And pro agent just like,

587
00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:37,750
we gotta go out to dinner.
We're gonna do anything. What about

588
00:30:37,750 --> 00:30:38,070
me?

589
00:30:38,150 --> 00:30:39,150
Yeah, what about me?

590
00:30:39,150 --> 00:30:41,590
This really got me angry
because this whole time we're hearing,

591
00:30:41,590 --> 00:30:43,870
oh, no, no, this trip's gonna
be great. We're gonna have time to

592
00:30:43,870 --> 00:30:46,110
just reconnect. We're gonna do
all these fun things. We're gonna

593
00:30:46,110 --> 00:30:50,430
relax. But literally the first
thing Caleb does when they get in

594
00:30:50,430 --> 00:30:53,620
the hotel room is call isaac.
Like, no cuddling, no hey, you want

595
00:30:53,620 --> 00:30:56,740
to go for lunch? Nothing. The
door closes, he puts his bag down,

596
00:30:56,740 --> 00:30:59,460
Bang. He's on the phone with
his ex. Men.

597
00:31:01,060 --> 00:31:05,140
And also, like, Caleb, I'm
sure, planned this entire trip. It's

598
00:31:05,140 --> 00:31:07,980
not just a coincidence that
they're going to P Town, right? Who

599
00:31:07,980 --> 00:31:12,380
goes to P Town in the winter?
So, so there's that uncomfortableness

600
00:31:12,380 --> 00:31:17,580
about an ex and what that
means on a relationship. And so a

601
00:31:17,580 --> 00:31:20,180
lot of that's in this film as
well. I thought that was really.

602
00:31:20,180 --> 00:31:22,660
And also, like, we learned, we
learned from the shitty friends that,

603
00:31:22,660 --> 00:31:25,760
that, that it just an ex.
Isaac proposed?

604
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,240
Yeah, to Caleb.

605
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,040
Like, this was going to be
serious. And Caleb was like, man,

606
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,360
there's a whole thing. Caleb
can't. They can't commit. He just

607
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:32,720
wants it all.

608
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,480
Oh, that's a good question.
Did you think Isaac proposed? Because

609
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,600
I thought Adrian was the one
that proposed. I thought Isaac proposed.

610
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:44,160
Interesting. Okay. All right.
I thought Adrian proposed and, and

611
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,680
Caleb either put it off or did
not accept. And so that's also caused

612
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,040
a little bit of a rift. But
you think Isaac. I'm gonna have to

613
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,640
watch again and see and see.
I'm not sure now. Yeah, I'm not sure

614
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,540
either. Either does work.
Yeah, either works. Both outcome

615
00:31:58,540 --> 00:31:59,020
is shitty.

616
00:31:59,020 --> 00:32:01,900
Ding Dong Patrick from the
future here. Dan was right. It was

617
00:32:01,900 --> 00:32:04,940
Adrian who proposed to Caleb,
not Isaac. Before we get to leave

618
00:32:04,940 --> 00:32:08,820
on the. Trip, we meet a second
set of shitty, shitty friends. But

619
00:32:08,820 --> 00:32:11,820
this time it's Caleb shitty
friends who have some really, really

620
00:32:11,820 --> 00:32:13,500
shitty things to say about Adrian.

621
00:32:14,220 --> 00:32:16,140
So do you guys not like Adrian?

622
00:32:16,300 --> 00:32:19,820
No, no, Adrian's cool. I just.
I just don't think I would have.

623
00:32:19,820 --> 00:32:20,800
Picked you for someone like him.

624
00:32:21,350 --> 00:32:24,226
Yeah, well, he's no Isaac, but
that's Not what I was getting at.

625
00:32:26,070 --> 00:32:27,590
So what are you so surprised about?

626
00:32:28,870 --> 00:32:33,560
Caleb? Come on, he proposed to
you a Year ago and you turned him

627
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:34,230
down.

628
00:32:36,790 --> 00:32:40,870
No, I didn't. I just told him
not right now. Adrian knows where

629
00:32:40,870 --> 00:32:41,270
I stand.

630
00:32:41,590 --> 00:32:45,110
Exactly. And none of this is
any of our business.

631
00:32:45,670 --> 00:32:49,840
He has been moping around for
a. Full year like some sad puppy,

632
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,720
all. Waiting for your word.
One of these days someone is just.

633
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:54,800
Going to uppercut you.

634
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,840
Yeah. So he's very much like
Inspector Howie.

635
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:02,880
Yeah. Sergeant Howe in the
Wicker Man. He keeps getting opportunities.

636
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,640
People keep saying, you know,
you can leave at any time. You don't

637
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,880
need to keep doing this, you
can go. He keeps having the door

638
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,920
shown him and he. He will not
stand stop on this quest. So this,

639
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,800
what happens is inevitable.
Yeah. And there's got the same sense

640
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,800
of inevitability that the
Wicker man does. Yeah, there's that,

641
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,160
there's the McGuffin. There's
a disappeared person in both. Like

642
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,080
in the first one, it's a
little. In Wicker man, it's a little

643
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,560
girl that's disappeared.
Right. And now it's Isaac. And now

644
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,640
it's Isaac. Yeah. Now

645
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,440
listeners, listen, I just want
to take a minute because I did not

646
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,840
make this clear before we
started. We can't fully discuss the

647
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,240
movie without spoiling it, but
however, since it's only available

648
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,050
on Blu Ray right now, and it
is, it's still relatively new, we're

649
00:33:39,050 --> 00:33:42,330
going to give you a. Now we
are going to talk, Dan. We're going

650
00:33:42,330 --> 00:33:45,810
to talk to the party. We're
going to get them to the party. And

651
00:33:45,810 --> 00:33:48,050
after that we can talk. Maybe
in some generalities, but the actual

652
00:33:48,050 --> 00:33:50,690
ending. Ending. We're going to
stop. Sure. We're going to wrap up

653
00:33:50,690 --> 00:33:54,690
the show and then we're going
to. Okay, put it as a bonus at the

654
00:33:54,690 --> 00:33:58,850
end because we can't not. No.
This film is so new, it hasn't been

655
00:33:58,850 --> 00:34:01,570
seen by that many people, so
it would be a shame to spoil it.

656
00:34:01,570 --> 00:34:04,970
Yeah. No, yeah. No, I mean,
you know from the. Tone of it that

657
00:34:04,970 --> 00:34:08,100
it's not going. To end well
for anybody. So we're not spoiling

658
00:34:08,100 --> 00:34:08,580
that. Right?

659
00:34:08,580 --> 00:34:08,860
Right.

660
00:34:08,860 --> 00:34:11,300
There's no happy endings. No
one's getting that. Well, some people

661
00:34:11,300 --> 00:34:12,220
are getting happy ending.

662
00:34:12,220 --> 00:34:14,220
It is a horror film after all.
It's a dark.

663
00:34:14,300 --> 00:34:16,700
Happy endings are happening.
Not the kind that we're talking about.

664
00:34:18,700 --> 00:34:20,860
Tell me about Eric. About

665
00:34:20,860 --> 00:34:24,900
Eric. Eric is. Eric is this
young guy that they meet when they

666
00:34:24,900 --> 00:34:28,940
first get to p town and he
shows them around. He's trying to

667
00:34:28,940 --> 00:34:30,460
help them find Isaac.

668
00:34:31,020 --> 00:34:34,300
Can I help you boys with
something? Oh, yeah, he checked out

669
00:34:34,300 --> 00:34:34,750
last week, I think.

670
00:34:35,699 --> 00:34:38,059
yeah. He was working over the
summer, but then posted about staying

671
00:34:38,059 --> 00:34:38,819
through the off season.

672
00:34:39,619 --> 00:34:44,099
That's weird. Most wouldn't
want to do that. It gets real depressing

673
00:34:44,099 --> 00:34:44,819
here in the winter.

674
00:34:45,539 --> 00:34:47,379
Yeah. It's not like him. I'm a
little worried.

675
00:34:49,059 --> 00:34:52,259
Well, I can show you boys
around if you want. I live here full

676
00:34:52,259 --> 00:34:55,459
time. I know all the year
rounders. They might have seen him.

677
00:34:55,699 --> 00:35:00,099
And he shows them around town,
introduces them to people. No one

678
00:35:00,259 --> 00:35:04,030
seems to want to talk or
remembers Isaac. And the three of

679
00:35:04,030 --> 00:35:08,790
them form an interesting bond.
They end up all sleeping together

680
00:35:09,110 --> 00:35:11,990
at one point in the film.
Well, several points in the film.

681
00:35:12,870 --> 00:35:17,590
And so you know what you're
thinking about Eric is. Is he a plant?

682
00:35:18,230 --> 00:35:22,030
Is he like, what's exactly
going on? Is this as innocent as

683
00:35:22,030 --> 00:35:24,630
it appears in the beginning?
He just. They just happen. They just

684
00:35:24,630 --> 00:35:27,350
happen. Angel, devil. Right?
Yeah. No, I found all that stuff

685
00:35:27,350 --> 00:35:27,670
with him fun.

686
00:35:27,670 --> 00:35:28,110
Like it was.

687
00:35:28,110 --> 00:35:31,150
It was knowing his presence
can't be good, but not sureing how

688
00:35:31,150 --> 00:35:34,000
this is going to play out was
fun. Yeah. Yeah. You're not. And

689
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,120
I kept waiting. I get waiting
for that sh. Like when the threesome

690
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,000
happened, I'm like, oh, this
is when this one's gonna be bad.

691
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,440
This when. When they come out
of it. Because it's normally in a

692
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,560
movie where the relationship
falls apart. Yeah, but doesn't. And

693
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,680
Eric is. Eric is young. And
all the other people that have stayed

694
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,200
that stay during the winter
that we meet seem to be older men,

695
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,240
workingclass men. And you're
like, wow, this cute little twinkie

696
00:35:55,240 --> 00:36:00,520
guy has stayed here. He's sort
of living among all these older men.

697
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,760
So he sort of sticks out a
little bit. He does stick out a little

698
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:03,920
bit.

699
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:08,360
Yeah. He provided. This isn't
a funny movie.

700
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,640
There's not a lot of jokes in
it. But I Did laugh twice because

701
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:11,400
of stuff he did.

702
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:12,400
Because he's.

703
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,879
He's carting them all around
this town.

704
00:36:13,879 --> 00:36:16,120
And what I also love about
this is that Provincetown becomes

705
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:16,520
a character.

706
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:17,960
Oh, yeah. In this movie, the.

707
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,680
This empty frozen wasteland of
a vacation.

708
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,040
Down is a character onto
itself. And they use the landscape.

709
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,400
It's a brilliantly. So he's
taking them to the beaches and all

710
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,390
these rundown areas and
looking for bodies and, you know,

711
00:36:28,470 --> 00:36:32,190
interviewing every
longshoreman and shit. And it's clearly

712
00:36:32,190 --> 00:36:32,630
freezing.

713
00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:34,910
I know from the cast, they
said they were fucking freezing for

714
00:36:34,910 --> 00:36:35,270
four years.

715
00:36:35,270 --> 00:36:38,350
Making this movie out on the
beach in January on like a bunch

716
00:36:38,350 --> 00:36:39,990
of idiots with no coats on.
But yeah.

717
00:36:39,990 --> 00:36:41,390
So this guy's been a great sport.

718
00:36:41,390 --> 00:36:41,830
He's carrying.

719
00:36:41,830 --> 00:36:44,310
He's carrying them around all
day and they're like, ok, you know

720
00:36:44,310 --> 00:36:46,750
what? We've. We've spent a
day. Why don't we go do something

721
00:36:46,750 --> 00:36:47,110
else?

722
00:36:47,430 --> 00:36:48,990
Thank you, Eric, for all your help.

723
00:36:48,990 --> 00:36:51,590
Today, but I think we spent
enough time on this.

724
00:36:52,790 --> 00:36:55,020
I'm sorry. Let me take you
boys out tonight.

725
00:36:55,660 --> 00:36:56,860
You boys doing anything?

726
00:36:57,660 --> 00:36:59,100
Is there something to do?

727
00:37:07,740 --> 00:37:10,140
And a like, well, what else is
there to do in this town?

728
00:37:10,380 --> 00:37:11,860
No, Eric just got the look of.

729
00:37:11,860 --> 00:37:13,180
Like he's going to say me.

730
00:37:15,260 --> 00:37:15,580
What.

731
00:37:15,580 --> 00:37:16,700
Everyone else there is to do
in this town.

732
00:37:16,700 --> 00:37:17,420
You can do me.

733
00:37:17,500 --> 00:37:18,300
And they do.

734
00:37:19,020 --> 00:37:23,180
And it happens so easily, by
the way. Like, there's no discussion

735
00:37:23,180 --> 00:37:26,660
about it. They end up back in
the hotel room. Caleb comes out of

736
00:37:26,660 --> 00:37:30,220
the bathroom and Adrian and
Eric are in bed already touching

737
00:37:30,220 --> 00:37:31,260
each other. So.

738
00:37:31,260 --> 00:37:34,260
But we had it. It's an hour
and it's an hour and 19 minute run

739
00:37:34,260 --> 00:37:37,380
time. We know how it's going
to end up. We just cut to the chase.

740
00:37:37,380 --> 00:37:38,260
You got to get to it.

741
00:37:38,660 --> 00:37:39,340
What do we need?

742
00:37:39,340 --> 00:37:41,340
Who needs all the blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

743
00:37:41,340 --> 00:37:43,860
This is Grinder time. Like,
who had time to cut you the chase?

744
00:37:43,860 --> 00:37:45,740
We've been together all day.
Right, right.

745
00:37:45,740 --> 00:37:47,180
Spent 14 hours in the dunes.

746
00:37:47,180 --> 00:37:49,740
Let's go. We all know what we
really want. I'm just thinking about.

747
00:37:49,740 --> 00:37:54,400
I shouldn't even. Should I
talk about three ways in that requires

748
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,480
so much discussion and
planning and logistics. But yes,

749
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,920
I guess when you're in P town
in the off scene is season, it's

750
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:01,400
like, what else?

751
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:02,120
And there's literally.

752
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:06,520
There's literally nobody else.
Let's go back to the BNB and get

753
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:07,040
it on.

754
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,320
He's been really keeping
really generous. He carries.

755
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,480
We gotta say thank you
somehow. Yeah. Yeah. He carted us.

756
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,280
Yeah. He's been taking us to
Men who yell at us.

757
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,000
I mentioned earlier how P Town
is very much its own character in

758
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,440
the movie. And I love how Eric
is the.

759
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,400
Gateway to P Town.

760
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,880
Not just for Caleb, but
Adrian, but for us, the audience.

761
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,920
Eric is like a bridge because
it's through him that we're introduced

762
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,440
to all the quirky locals. You
know, the fisherman and the guy who

763
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,040
owns the coffee shop. And just
like in the Wicker man, everybody's

764
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,760
super friendly and super
helpful, but they're almost too friendly

765
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,840
and too helpful. So Eric's
getting us into the cozy part of

766
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,620
P Town, but also it's him
that's dragging Caleb and Adrian

767
00:38:51,860 --> 00:38:52,500
deeper.

768
00:38:52,500 --> 00:38:53,820
And deeper into the wilderness.

769
00:38:53,820 --> 00:38:56,180
He keeps bringing them farther
and farther out of town, into the

770
00:38:56,180 --> 00:38:59,260
beaches, into the wilds, into
these dangerous areas, you know,

771
00:38:59,260 --> 00:39:03,060
where the bodies wash up.
These frozen, empty, dangerous places

772
00:39:03,140 --> 00:39:06,380
that you're not supposed to go
in the wintertime. Except we keep

773
00:39:06,380 --> 00:39:09,420
going there in the wintertime.
But, you know, Eric's just trying

774
00:39:09,420 --> 00:39:12,740
to help, right? Or is he just
trying to help? The movie keeps playing

775
00:39:12,740 --> 00:39:15,700
with your head that way. And I
think it's great stuff. Oh, one of

776
00:39:15,700 --> 00:39:16,420
the other characters that.

777
00:39:16,420 --> 00:39:18,740
We run into, his character
Myron, the guy who runs the antique

778
00:39:18,740 --> 00:39:22,920
shop. He's classic horror
movie character. He's like Crazy

779
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,840
Ralph from. Well, not. Not
exactly Crazy Ralph from Friday the

780
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,960
13th, but he's the character
who we know has a secret, who's been

781
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:34,000
living here a long time. He's
the get off my lawn type of character.

782
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:39,920
So he's a. He's a. He's sort
of like a horror film staple, like

783
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,640
you guys. I don't have any
information for you. I don't know

784
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,800
anything about your friend.
You need to leave town.

785
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,200
I'm really sorry to bother
you. I'm looking for a friend of

786
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,470
mine. He was working in town
over the summer. I have a photo of

787
00:39:50,470 --> 00:39:53,430
him. His name's Isaac. He's
actually sitting in front of your

788
00:39:53,430 --> 00:39:53,790
shop.

789
00:39:54,670 --> 00:39:59,630
If he's missing, there's no
use searching for him now. Hey, what

790
00:40:00,830 --> 00:40:04,190
I'm saying is this is a
transient town. A lot of faces come,

791
00:40:04,510 --> 00:40:05,710
a lot of faces go.

792
00:40:07,310 --> 00:40:08,670
Well, do you recognize them?

793
00:40:09,870 --> 00:40:15,730
Yeah, but you boys all look
the same. Now, if he was smart, he

794
00:40:15,730 --> 00:40:19,770
hightailed her that sound. And
if he didn't, he's not gonna be the

795
00:40:19,770 --> 00:40:20,810
man in that photograph.

796
00:40:20,970 --> 00:40:22,250
Wait, what are you trying to say?

797
00:40:22,490 --> 00:40:27,410
What I'm trying to say is give
up your search, boy. Don't bother

798
00:40:27,410 --> 00:40:27,930
me again.

799
00:40:30,970 --> 00:40:35,650
But. But I liked this guy. He
comes, he has. He has sort of a He

800
00:40:35,650 --> 00:40:39,170
makes an impression in the
story. He's. He's more than just

801
00:40:39,170 --> 00:40:41,930
a device, I feel like. I mean,
we find out later. Later. Yeah.

802
00:40:41,930 --> 00:40:43,330
Oh, yeah. 101 and I.

803
00:40:43,330 --> 00:40:45,650
It took me half the movie to
figure out that that was Gloria Hall.

804
00:40:45,890 --> 00:40:47,250
Oh, that was.

805
00:40:47,250 --> 00:40:47,730
Yeah.

806
00:40:48,610 --> 00:40:50,690
Michael McAdams. Oh, my gosh.

807
00:40:51,090 --> 00:40:53,890
Dead face just lit up like a
Christmas tree because.

808
00:40:54,210 --> 00:40:55,410
Wow, that's great.

809
00:40:55,730 --> 00:40:57,490
You know, I love.

810
00:40:58,210 --> 00:41:01,410
I love that these two years,
like, there's. Now they have a repertoire

811
00:41:01,410 --> 00:41:04,050
of actors that they use, and
they're. That's great because that's

812
00:41:04,050 --> 00:41:06,490
what. Nothing like a stable.
That's what every actor wants. They

813
00:41:06,490 --> 00:41:09,570
want people to be like, hey,
come be in this. Come be in our film.

814
00:41:09,810 --> 00:41:13,630
Let's. Let's collaborate on
this thing. So I, I. About these

815
00:41:13,630 --> 00:41:16,990
guys, I also, I also love that
they're from Providence, Rhode Island.

816
00:41:16,990 --> 00:41:20,830
I have a huge place in my
heart for Providence, Rhode Island.

817
00:41:21,390 --> 00:41:24,310
I think it is so much fun. And
what was great about watching Death

818
00:41:24,310 --> 00:41:27,790
Drop was I've been in all
those gay bars. I've walked down

819
00:41:27,790 --> 00:41:29,110
those streets. It's.

820
00:41:29,110 --> 00:41:29,750
Slept with her.

821
00:41:29,750 --> 00:41:30,430
Slept with her.

822
00:41:30,510 --> 00:41:31,870
I know him. I know her.

823
00:41:33,230 --> 00:41:36,630
No, I, My. My. My partner
spends a lot of time on Nantucket,

824
00:41:36,630 --> 00:41:42,620
so I, I'm. I. And so we would
drive to Hyannis and always stop

825
00:41:42,620 --> 00:41:45,420
in Providence. Always do a
night in Providence, get a nice hotel,

826
00:41:45,420 --> 00:41:48,820
have a nice dinner, visit the
gay bars. So it brought back all

827
00:41:48,820 --> 00:41:51,420
those memories. Now. Now when
I go back there and be like, where's.

828
00:41:51,740 --> 00:41:54,620
Where is Michael? Where is
Brandon? Where are these guys? I

829
00:41:54,620 --> 00:41:58,900
want to run into them. Well,
they're all dead. All those guys

830
00:41:58,900 --> 00:42:02,300
are dead, unfortunately.
Sorry, Sorry. That's another movie

831
00:42:02,540 --> 00:42:03,260
Back to here.

832
00:42:03,500 --> 00:42:04,620
Yeah, but what I liked about this.

833
00:42:04,620 --> 00:42:05,820
Character is that, like you
said, it's.

834
00:42:05,820 --> 00:42:06,540
A hard movie staple.

835
00:42:06,540 --> 00:42:08,580
But he's not just to get off
my lawn, get out here. You all do.

836
00:42:08,650 --> 00:42:09,890
Doomed kind of guy.

837
00:42:09,890 --> 00:42:11,690
He is also trying to help them.

838
00:42:11,690 --> 00:42:12,650
At the same time. Yeah.

839
00:42:12,970 --> 00:42:13,850
As much as he can.

840
00:42:13,850 --> 00:42:16,210
Like, it turns out he's like,
I'm trying to help you, but not say

841
00:42:16,210 --> 00:42:20,810
anything that will get me
killed. So he says fun things. Some

842
00:42:20,810 --> 00:42:23,170
of the dialogue. His dialogue.
Like what he's like, if he's missing,

843
00:42:23,170 --> 00:42:27,370
there's no use looking for him
now. Yeah, just stop. Don't bother.

844
00:42:27,370 --> 00:42:30,330
Don't bother. I know it sounds
harsh, but. No, trust me, you don't

845
00:42:30,330 --> 00:42:33,370
want to keep looking for. You
don't. He also has this terrifying

846
00:42:33,370 --> 00:42:36,970
line where he. I think Caleb
comes to see him a second time and

847
00:42:36,970 --> 00:42:40,260
he said. He says something
like. Like Your boyfriend is lost.

848
00:42:40,260 --> 00:42:43,860
You need to leave now. And
that was like, what? Leave alone?

849
00:42:46,500 --> 00:42:48,740
You only have a few hours left
to save yourself.

850
00:42:49,060 --> 00:42:52,020
Do yourself a favor and get
the out of here. Just forget about

851
00:42:52,020 --> 00:42:56,380
your friend. There are things
that lay dormant in the summer that

852
00:42:56,380 --> 00:42:57,780
are lurking in the streets.

853
00:42:58,260 --> 00:43:00,820
Off with your riddles. I know
you know something.

854
00:43:01,060 --> 00:43:05,310
Do you know the man you've
been spending time with? Eric, I'm

855
00:43:05,310 --> 00:43:09,870
trying to help you, but I have
to protect myself first and foremost.

856
00:43:09,870 --> 00:43:15,070
This town, its inhabitants,
it's not safe for people like me.

857
00:43:15,550 --> 00:43:17,230
And you leave.

858
00:43:17,630 --> 00:43:18,510
Leave alone.

859
00:43:20,510 --> 00:43:22,510
Forget about your friend, your partner.

860
00:43:22,510 --> 00:43:23,230
They're gone.

861
00:43:23,950 --> 00:43:26,830
You have precious little time
to save yourself.

862
00:43:28,670 --> 00:43:30,550
One of those other times when
he's being confronted, he's like,

863
00:43:30,550 --> 00:43:30,870
look at.

864
00:43:30,870 --> 00:43:33,420
I gotta find my friend. He's
like, listen, boys, come, come, boys,

865
00:43:33,420 --> 00:43:34,020
go, boys.

866
00:43:34,020 --> 00:43:35,140
Get lost in the tide.

867
00:43:35,300 --> 00:43:36,820
Stop looking for trouble, boy.

868
00:43:36,820 --> 00:43:38,180
Tell me what you know about Isaac.

869
00:43:38,180 --> 00:43:40,900
Don't get involved in the
happenings of this town once winter

870
00:43:40,900 --> 00:43:41,620
rolls in.

871
00:43:41,780 --> 00:43:42,180
Why?

872
00:43:42,180 --> 00:43:43,620
What is it about this place?

873
00:43:44,100 --> 00:43:46,980
Boys come to get caught in the tide.

874
00:43:47,780 --> 00:43:48,740
What does that mean?

875
00:43:48,820 --> 00:43:50,460
What does that mean? What does that.

876
00:43:50,460 --> 00:43:53,340
And then. Well, we know what
that means now. Yeah, we know what

877
00:43:53,340 --> 00:43:57,180
that means now. Is that. Yeah,
it's. It's not just Adrian Isaac

878
00:43:57,180 --> 00:44:00,980
that's gone missing. Hot young
men disappear here all the time during

879
00:44:00,980 --> 00:44:03,900
the winter. It's just a thing.
You know, people think they can stay

880
00:44:03,900 --> 00:44:06,320
through the winter, run out of
money, and then. Oh, well, nobody

881
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:07,440
knows what happens to them.

882
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,800
Listen, I didn't want to make
you guys worried, but I don't know,

883
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,160
the seasonal guys, sometimes
they get stuck here. They blow through

884
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,440
their money, and they can't
leave town.

885
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,000
So if Isaac was stuck, you
would call me?

886
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,160
Those places are rough. I.
I've. I've had friends who have spent,

887
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:28,080
like, a winter in Nantucket in
the off season or in P town, and

888
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:32,000
it gets dark, it gets
depressing, it gets lonely, it gets

889
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:36,690
cold. And so. Yeah, yeah,
that. I mean, you know, in this movie,

890
00:44:36,690 --> 00:44:40,250
there's a supernatural bend to
it, but it. There's also that, like,

891
00:44:41,210 --> 00:44:44,890
there's nothing to do. And
you're like, P Town feels like it's

892
00:44:44,890 --> 00:44:47,450
the end of the world, right?
It's a peninsula at the end of Cape

893
00:44:47,450 --> 00:44:52,410
Cod. And so the type I love in
this movie. What did they use? Drones?

894
00:44:52,730 --> 00:44:55,770
Some of those shots of the
beaches. Overhead they had to have,

895
00:44:55,770 --> 00:44:59,330
or the. Car driving on the
highway? Like, I saw the budget of

896
00:44:59,330 --> 00:45:04,540
this. It says $20,000 on IMDb.
This movie looks like a million bucks.

897
00:45:04,540 --> 00:45:07,540
Like, literally, it doesn't
look like it was made for $20,000.

898
00:45:07,540 --> 00:45:10,940
They really. They really have
done a great job. But the drones

899
00:45:10,940 --> 00:45:16,940
were so impressive. And it
also. It's not just using a drone

900
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:21,020
to use a drone. It really. It
really. It really plays into the

901
00:45:21,020 --> 00:45:24,780
mood and atmosphere of the
movie. So 100%. You really. It captures

902
00:45:24,780 --> 00:45:26,780
that whole isolation
desolation of things.

903
00:45:27,100 --> 00:45:28,140
This should be beautiful.

904
00:45:28,140 --> 00:45:31,440
But right now it's not. No,
no, no. If you were here just three

905
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,800
months ago, you'd love it. But
right now, yeah. Death Trap. Welcome.

906
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,680
And tons of it goes on for as
far as the eye can see. Nothing and

907
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:45,160
nobody. Oh, my gosh. Except
him. He's waiting. Good old St. Joo.

908
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,520
Since I know these guys a bit,
you know, in real life, and I know

909
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:54,700
how they write and I know how
they think. I was like when in the

910
00:45:56,290 --> 00:46:00,170
threesome scene, the first
one, Eric introduces drugs to the

911
00:46:00,170 --> 00:46:04,850
equation and I said, what is
that, coke? He said, no, it's anaphora.

912
00:46:05,890 --> 00:46:11,250
Something new. And I went,
it's not a thing. Well, we find out

913
00:46:11,250 --> 00:46:14,170
later what it is. But I said
that. That. That word is standing

914
00:46:14,170 --> 00:46:17,570
out to me. Like, what does
that mean? And not surprisingly,

915
00:46:17,570 --> 00:46:19,890
it's all biblical. Everything.
Everything has to do with biblical

916
00:46:19,890 --> 00:46:23,850
stuff in this. Even the names,
the characters, anaphora. It's. It's

917
00:46:23,850 --> 00:46:27,450
a. It's an oratory device
where you keep repeating a phrase

918
00:46:27,450 --> 00:46:30,970
at the beginning of another
beginning of a sentence over and

919
00:46:30,970 --> 00:46:35,050
over to make a point, like the
I have a dream speech. But it's mostly

920
00:46:35,050 --> 00:46:38,850
used in religious oratory like
the Beatitudes. Blessed be the. Blessed

921
00:46:38,850 --> 00:46:42,610
be the. Thou shalt not. Thou
shalt not. Thou shalt not. Wow. But

922
00:46:42,610 --> 00:46:45,210
this religious imagery all
through this, it's just subtle. Like

923
00:46:45,210 --> 00:46:49,770
I. They'll show the masses of
a boat, but it feels like a crucifix.

924
00:46:49,770 --> 00:46:53,570
Yeah. There at the party
they're coming up to. There's a pipe

925
00:46:53,570 --> 00:46:54,250
organ in this house.

926
00:46:54,250 --> 00:46:55,770
Why is there a pipe organ in
the house?

927
00:46:55,850 --> 00:46:56,210
What.

928
00:46:56,210 --> 00:46:59,930
What is this? Where are we?
Who are these people?

929
00:47:00,250 --> 00:47:02,490
So most of the movie, as I'm
searching for the. For this missing

930
00:47:02,490 --> 00:47:05,610
boyfriend, Caleb's starting to
really spin out. He's having his

931
00:47:05,610 --> 00:47:09,370
own hallucinations and getting
more and more paranoid and more and

932
00:47:09,450 --> 00:47:12,490
more. More angry. And this
relationship keeps getting more and

933
00:47:12,490 --> 00:47:15,710
more strained and we've got,
yeah, this now love triangle forming

934
00:47:15,710 --> 00:47:20,870
because the more Caleb freaks
out, the more Adrian is really getting

935
00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:25,590
pushed. Yeah. Towards Eric.
And of course, Eric's waiting there

936
00:47:25,590 --> 00:47:27,630
with open arms. One of my
favorite things is when they have

937
00:47:27,630 --> 00:47:31,390
a fight at One point, it was
after that whole shower monologue.

938
00:47:31,390 --> 00:47:34,590
He has a whole very long
monologue about this time he did

939
00:47:34,590 --> 00:47:37,230
drugs with Adrian. They
thought he was dead in the shower.

940
00:47:37,230 --> 00:47:39,790
But yeah, they have a fight at
the end of it. And while they're

941
00:47:39,790 --> 00:47:42,570
walking away way Caleb tries
to take Adrian's hand. She. He swats

942
00:47:42,570 --> 00:47:47,170
it away like Melania does.
Melania hands. But it's just such

943
00:47:47,170 --> 00:47:50,770
a small moment. It's just
small moment. Yeah. What also, it

944
00:47:50,770 --> 00:47:55,730
also occurs to me when they're
fighting, I'm thinking, is this organic

945
00:47:55,730 --> 00:48:00,290
or is this something in P
town? Are they like. Is something

946
00:48:00,290 --> 00:48:02,930
controlling them? Is
something. Is there a. Is the. Is

947
00:48:02,930 --> 00:48:06,570
there. Is their destiny
already sealed? Right? Is it. Is

948
00:48:06,570 --> 00:48:11,370
it beyond a couple's fight?
Have they been set up to. To have

949
00:48:11,370 --> 00:48:14,890
these fights and create this
rift? So, yeah. And the answer is

950
00:48:14,890 --> 00:48:18,050
yes to all of it. Yeah. You do
get a sense that there's a power

951
00:48:18,050 --> 00:48:22,730
above them that they may be
helpless to now that is already drawing

952
00:48:22,730 --> 00:48:28,730
them to. You know, I don't. I
don't want to. No, there. Dan is

953
00:48:28,730 --> 00:48:31,850
100% right. And when you watch
the movie, there is a sense of inevitability

954
00:48:31,850 --> 00:48:35,570
to it. You feel. You feel like
they're in a trap. Trap. Yeah. So

955
00:48:35,570 --> 00:48:38,170
are they even helpless to.
They feel like they're in a trap.

956
00:48:38,890 --> 00:48:41,810
And people keep giving them
outs to the trap and Caleb never

957
00:48:41,810 --> 00:48:42,330
takes them.

958
00:48:42,330 --> 00:48:46,370
Right. Right. Yeah. And. And
at one point, it just seems like

959
00:48:46,370 --> 00:48:49,330
Adrian is also under the
influence of something else. Like

960
00:48:49,330 --> 00:48:50,730
something is working on him.

961
00:48:50,730 --> 00:48:52,370
Well, yeah, yeah. There's.

962
00:48:52,370 --> 00:48:55,570
There's a second threesome.
And this time, the first time they

963
00:48:55,570 --> 00:48:58,930
have a threesome, Caleb,
Bobby, Eric introduces drugs, this

964
00:48:58,930 --> 00:49:04,070
new drug, Anaphorum into the
situation. Is that coke?

965
00:49:04,790 --> 00:49:09,670
Nah, man, much better. Last
longer, take some of the edge off.

966
00:49:10,390 --> 00:49:17,030
It's perfect for vacation.
It's called Anaphora.

967
00:49:18,390 --> 00:49:19,230
Nah, minimal.

968
00:49:19,230 --> 00:49:22,390
So. How about you, big guy?

969
00:49:24,550 --> 00:49:25,690
I'm good, thanks.

970
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:28,560
Suit yourself, boys.

971
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:35,280
And they both refused, right?
The second time. After the second

972
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,880
day, when they're really
pissed off at each other. And it's

973
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,320
been a horrible day. They've
been nothing but fighting and Kayla's

974
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,680
been nothing but awful to
Adrian. And this threesome's about

975
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,400
to happen. He gets off for the
jokes and he just says,.

976
00:49:52,660 --> 00:49:53,300
Why not?

977
00:49:56,980 --> 00:49:58,420
The first hit is the hardest.

978
00:49:58,660 --> 00:50:01,740
And Michael, Michael Ahern, if
you're listening, the way you said

979
00:50:01,740 --> 00:50:04,420
fuck, it was so wonderfully
layered. It was a wonderful performance

980
00:50:04,500 --> 00:50:08,980
of a two word line. You could.
There were so many ways to toss it

981
00:50:08,980 --> 00:50:11,860
away, make it easy, but it was
Rich. It was rich. So much in that.

982
00:50:11,860 --> 00:50:16,100
Fuck it. So much in that.
Because it's also all that. Also

983
00:50:16,100 --> 00:50:18,820
all that felt really real. I
know we're living. We're. We're living

984
00:50:18,820 --> 00:50:22,450
in a surreal place right now,
but. But these are things that happen

985
00:50:22,450 --> 00:50:25,410
in gay culture, right? Yeah,
they happen in gay culture. And the

986
00:50:25,410 --> 00:50:27,770
way they fight feels really
real. Like the part where Adrian

987
00:50:27,770 --> 00:50:30,890
says, every single decision
that has happened in this relationship

988
00:50:30,890 --> 00:50:32,690
since it started is me compromising.

989
00:50:32,690 --> 00:50:33,690
Every sing, every time.

990
00:50:33,690 --> 00:50:34,930
I have to be the one to compromise.

991
00:50:35,330 --> 00:50:36,530
Jesus, Caleb.

992
00:50:36,850 --> 00:50:40,450
It's clear Isaac doesn't want
anything to do with you. He's not

993
00:50:40,450 --> 00:50:43,930
answering your calls, he's
ignored your texts. And instead of

994
00:50:43,930 --> 00:50:45,290
accepting that, you continue.

995
00:50:45,290 --> 00:50:48,140
To drag your partner through
this fucking wild goose chase of

996
00:50:48,140 --> 00:50:48,420
yours.

997
00:50:48,420 --> 00:50:49,980
Oh, and like you have anything
better to do.

998
00:50:49,980 --> 00:50:51,900
Miss happy hour with your
basic friends.

999
00:50:51,900 --> 00:50:53,660
And your stupid fucking job?

1000
00:50:54,860 --> 00:50:55,660
Fuck you.

1001
00:50:56,140 --> 00:50:58,380
I don't have time for your
insecurities, Adrian.

1002
00:50:58,380 --> 00:51:01,420
Oh, my God. Can you grow the
fuck up?

1003
00:51:01,740 --> 00:51:03,060
There is something happening here.

1004
00:51:03,060 --> 00:51:03,980
Why don't you see it?

1005
00:51:03,980 --> 00:51:05,660
There's something seriously wrong.

1006
00:51:06,460 --> 00:51:09,540
Every fucking decision we've
made in this relationship has been

1007
00:51:09,540 --> 00:51:11,420
a concession on my behalf.

1008
00:51:12,470 --> 00:51:12,830
Do you.

1009
00:51:12,830 --> 00:51:14,710
Do you realize what I've given
up for you?

1010
00:51:15,030 --> 00:51:15,990
And to what end?

1011
00:51:16,070 --> 00:51:17,590
You don't even fucking notice.

1012
00:51:18,470 --> 00:51:19,070
I know you.

1013
00:51:19,070 --> 00:51:19,630
I know you.

1014
00:51:19,630 --> 00:51:21,430
Everything's always my fault.
That I always have to be the one

1015
00:51:21,430 --> 00:51:23,910
to compromise. You can do
whatever the fuck you want. I've

1016
00:51:23,910 --> 00:51:24,790
been here for three days.

1017
00:51:24,870 --> 00:51:25,870
We've been here for three days.

1018
00:51:25,870 --> 00:51:27,390
All we've done is look at your
fucking boyfriend.

1019
00:51:27,390 --> 00:51:28,390
I've asked you so many times, could.

1020
00:51:28,390 --> 00:51:30,750
We do anything else? And you
won't do anything else. Yeah, here

1021
00:51:30,750 --> 00:51:32,950
we were. Here we are, another
eight hours in the fucking dunes.

1022
00:51:33,430 --> 00:51:36,110
Yeah, and it was his idea to
go away. It was Caleb's idea to go

1023
00:51:36,110 --> 00:51:39,790
away. And. And, yeah, which I
love. Even on the way there. Even

1024
00:51:39,790 --> 00:51:41,590
on the way there, when they're
talking, the way. On the.

1025
00:51:41,590 --> 00:51:42,370
In the car, on the way there.

1026
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,480
There. Their conversation is
very revealing.

1027
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:49,000
This job, it's stressing me
out. And I don't know, I used to

1028
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:54,320
be so certain about
everything. And lately I'm not so

1029
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:54,600
sure.

1030
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:59,080
Well, you're not working this
weekend, so let's focus on having

1031
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,360
some fun, relaxing. I think
this will be good for us.

1032
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,040
Caleb says it'll be a great time.

1033
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,720
We can relax and have some
fun. No, you won't. You will not

1034
00:52:07,720 --> 00:52:09,320
relax and nobody's having fun. And.

1035
00:52:09,610 --> 00:52:12,050
And Adrian's talking about his
job and.

1036
00:52:12,050 --> 00:52:14,890
He says, I used to be so
certain about everything. But now

1037
00:52:14,890 --> 00:52:15,850
I'm not so sure.

1038
00:52:16,890 --> 00:52:18,890
You talk about your job,
Adrian, you talk about this. Yeah.

1039
00:52:18,890 --> 00:52:19,050
Everything.

1040
00:52:19,050 --> 00:52:21,970
We're everything. I love that
because the dialogue works on so

1041
00:52:21,970 --> 00:52:23,050
many different levels.

1042
00:52:23,690 --> 00:52:24,650
Yeah, yeah.

1043
00:52:24,650 --> 00:52:28,410
It's well crafted dialogue,
which is impressive. Yeah. Very smart.

1044
00:52:28,410 --> 00:52:31,250
These guys are very smart. But
yeah. On the second day, Adrian brings.

1045
00:52:31,250 --> 00:52:33,850
Eric brings the fact, hey,
there's a party tonight.

1046
00:52:34,010 --> 00:52:35,850
Maybe you guys should go to
this party.

1047
00:52:36,090 --> 00:52:38,810
There is this big party
tomorrow night. The celebrities,

1048
00:52:38,810 --> 00:52:41,410
the big wigs, you know, the
ones that are on vacation, vacation

1049
00:52:41,410 --> 00:52:45,610
homes here, they throw it
every year and it might come up pretty

1050
00:52:45,610 --> 00:52:48,490
handed, but I think it would
be worth checking out to see if anyone's

1051
00:52:48,490 --> 00:52:49,130
seen your friend.

1052
00:52:49,130 --> 00:52:51,770
Who's gonna be at the party,
Dan, who's throwing the party?

1053
00:52:52,570 --> 00:52:55,690
It's gonna be all the people
that have stayed all the year rounders,

1054
00:52:56,250 --> 00:53:03,290
so it seems mostly older gay
men, rich gay men. He said. He says

1055
00:53:03,290 --> 00:53:07,290
celebrities. Yeah. So it's. It
sounds. It sounds enticing. It looks

1056
00:53:07,290 --> 00:53:10,600
enticing. The house is
beautiful. And I think that's where

1057
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,680
we're gonna pretty much stop.
We'll talk. I'm gonna talk. I don't

1058
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:17,520
want to get into anything too
more specific. What happens after.

1059
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,240
Because after this is where
the movie goes bananas. Like it's.

1060
00:53:20,720 --> 00:53:24,599
It's been very. A mystery.
Yeah. It's been an involving mystery

1061
00:53:24,599 --> 00:53:28,040
up until this point. There's
been nothing particularly frightening.

1062
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,200
There's been some spooky
visions and. And some cool shots

1063
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,520
and things like that. They set
the mood. But there's nothing super

1064
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,520
horror. But it's coming. It's
about this party is where things

1065
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:41,980
get lit. Yeah. From this
moment on, it really unravel. What

1066
00:53:41,980 --> 00:53:44,500
I would like to say, like the
art direction at this party, I think

1067
00:53:44,500 --> 00:53:49,620
is fabulous. Gorgeous.
Gorgeous. It's like Eyes Wide Shut.

1068
00:53:49,620 --> 00:53:53,220
It reminded me of Eyes Wide
Shut. It's very much Eyes Wide Shut.

1069
00:53:53,220 --> 00:53:55,620
And what I liked about this
too. I've seen a couple of movies

1070
00:53:55,620 --> 00:53:58,540
now, a couple of gay horror
movies now that have tried to recreate

1071
00:53:58,540 --> 00:54:02,140
this gay. What's the word I'm
looking for? Bacchanalia Feel.

1072
00:54:03,020 --> 00:54:03,620
Look at this.

1073
00:54:03,620 --> 00:54:09,610
Look at how this gross orgy
mess. Yeah. And they always feel

1074
00:54:09,610 --> 00:54:14,970
forced. They don't feel real.
This felt creepily organic.

1075
00:54:14,970 --> 00:54:17,570
So there are a bunch of other
movies that I'm thinking of that

1076
00:54:17,570 --> 00:54:21,810
I'm not gonna name that they
might attempt an orgiastic scene

1077
00:54:21,810 --> 00:54:25,530
like this. But they always
wind up feeling like porn. It feels

1078
00:54:25,690 --> 00:54:29,890
staged, artificial, just
exploitive in a dull, uncreative

1079
00:54:29,890 --> 00:54:33,890
kind of way. Just try to shock
and titillate and that's about it.

1080
00:54:33,890 --> 00:54:37,990
But the sex you see going on
here not only doesn't look hot and

1081
00:54:37,990 --> 00:54:42,230
feel really real, it feels
frightening. It feels like decadent

1082
00:54:42,230 --> 00:54:45,590
and predatory. And for me, it
feels like I'm not just watching

1083
00:54:45,590 --> 00:54:46,670
an orgy, I'm watching.

1084
00:54:46,670 --> 00:54:47,870
Some sort of a ritual.

1085
00:54:47,950 --> 00:54:51,630
And that's really scary. I'm
going to paraphrase frequent guests

1086
00:54:51,630 --> 00:54:55,630
of the show, Pastor Ben. Hi,
Pastor Ben. Pastor Ben. When he's

1087
00:54:55,630 --> 00:54:58,190
been on the show before, he'll
talk about a scene. He says, I feel

1088
00:54:58,190 --> 00:55:02,230
like I'm watching something I
shouldn't be seeing. And that's what

1089
00:55:02,230 --> 00:55:04,510
these scenes feel like
compared to the other scenes. I'm

1090
00:55:04,510 --> 00:55:08,350
talking about the lesser orgy
scenes in other lesser movies. Those

1091
00:55:08,350 --> 00:55:11,810
scenes, scenes are shot to be
seen. Look at what we're doing. Look

1092
00:55:11,810 --> 00:55:15,970
how naughty this is. Look how
gross and sexy. Look how hot we all

1093
00:55:15,970 --> 00:55:17,650
are. Look at this hot sex
we're having.

1094
00:55:17,650 --> 00:55:22,290
But this feels like, yeah, you
really shouldn't be here. But you

1095
00:55:22,290 --> 00:55:26,290
can look, you can look away.
It doesn't really matter. Second

1096
00:55:26,290 --> 00:55:31,570
step, what we're doing. But
make a choice. It's gonna stay play,

1097
00:55:31,570 --> 00:55:32,210
we're gonna run.

1098
00:55:32,210 --> 00:55:34,970
Away and ah, that's what it
feels like to me. And it's, it keep

1099
00:55:34,970 --> 00:55:35,250
gross.

1100
00:55:35,250 --> 00:55:39,370
And I love it. Like I've been
to the. I'll tell you. I'll tell

1101
00:55:39,370 --> 00:55:42,290
you. Patrick. Patrick. Someone
contacted me last night while I was

1102
00:55:42,290 --> 00:55:45,090
watching this. What are you
watching? I'm watching this movie,

1103
00:55:45,090 --> 00:55:48,410
Saint Drogo. What's it about?
It's about P Town in the winter.

1104
00:55:48,410 --> 00:55:51,130
And they're like, oh my gosh,
I've been to P Town in the winter.

1105
00:55:51,370 --> 00:55:55,090
All it is is these late night
parties with everybody getting naked

1106
00:55:55,090 --> 00:55:58,090
and doing drugs. I was like,
I'm literally watching that right

1107
00:55:58,170 --> 00:55:58,570
now.

1108
00:55:58,730 --> 00:56:00,490
It's a documentary is what it is.

1109
00:56:00,810 --> 00:56:04,730
It seemed, I mean, you know,
it's presented in a very surrealistic

1110
00:56:04,730 --> 00:56:08,460
way, but a lot of it, I mean,
I'm sure that's how things play out

1111
00:56:08,530 --> 00:56:13,450
out. If you take away like the
weirdo, culty, surreal elements of

1112
00:56:13,450 --> 00:56:18,050
it, you know, I'm sure I'm,
I've never been, I've never been

1113
00:56:18,050 --> 00:56:22,210
to a party like that,
unfortunately, yet. But. Or maybe

1114
00:56:22,210 --> 00:56:26,090
fortunately, but I've been to
one like that. I've been one like

1115
00:56:26,090 --> 00:56:31,370
this might have snacks. Well,
it seemed like they did have snacks,

1116
00:56:31,370 --> 00:56:36,320
but they were human snacks.
But. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's,

1117
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:40,720
but you're, you're thinking
it's. This is all wrong, right? This

1118
00:56:40,720 --> 00:56:44,240
is not Just a bunch of people
getting together and h. And. And

1119
00:56:44,240 --> 00:56:48,320
a sexy time having drinks and
stuff. There's a real. There's a

1120
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:52,680
real certain level of menace
that Caleb feels and that is present

1121
00:56:53,720 --> 00:56:57,000
at this party. So there's
nothing comfortable about this party.

1122
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:02,160
It's very creepy. But even at
the party, I. Again, none of this

1123
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,200
is specific. But when he first
gets there, Caleb has spent.

1124
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:05,200
Caleb has gotten separated.

1125
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,180
He's really fre out. He's
having all kinds of crazy visions.

1126
00:57:08,580 --> 00:57:12,020
He's fought with Adrian.
They've split up. Yeah, basically.

1127
00:57:12,020 --> 00:57:12,580
You know what?

1128
00:57:12,900 --> 00:57:15,780
This guy getting by this guy
gives you some self esteem for wants

1129
00:57:15,780 --> 00:57:15,860
to.

1130
00:57:15,860 --> 00:57:16,460
Just go do that.

1131
00:57:16,460 --> 00:57:17,580
Just go, go, go, go.

1132
00:57:17,580 --> 00:57:19,540
Then grow a spine.

1133
00:57:19,540 --> 00:57:20,740
Whoa, whoa, gentlemen.

1134
00:57:20,740 --> 00:57:24,260
Let's pump the brakes. It's
all good. Why don't we just go to

1135
00:57:24,260 --> 00:57:27,340
that party tonight? Maybe your
friend will be there. And after that

1136
00:57:27,340 --> 00:57:29,300
we can get you two back on the
road into the city.

1137
00:57:29,460 --> 00:57:30,100
How's that?

1138
00:57:30,420 --> 00:57:33,830
Isaac. His name name is Isaac.
You keep referring my friend like

1139
00:57:33,830 --> 00:57:39,670
he's some kind of dog. I lost.
If this loser boosts your self esteem,

1140
00:57:39,670 --> 00:57:42,030
Adrian, then by all means have
at it.

1141
00:57:42,270 --> 00:57:45,710
And so Adrian's gone and the
car's gone and he's been wandering

1142
00:57:45,710 --> 00:57:48,510
the beach and tripping. And he
winds up at the house where the party

1143
00:57:48,510 --> 00:57:51,550
is. And the host invites him
right in with open arms, Right?

1144
00:57:52,270 --> 00:57:52,830
Oh no.

1145
00:57:53,710 --> 00:57:55,550
Like he knows him. Yeah, like
he knows.

1146
00:57:55,550 --> 00:57:57,350
Like he's. Like he's the
prodigal son.

1147
00:57:57,350 --> 00:57:57,930
Come on home.

1148
00:57:58,250 --> 00:58:02,210
Oh, you poor thing. Come in,
come in, Weaver son.

1149
00:58:02,210 --> 00:58:05,450
Come in. You're all wet. You
look cold. Let us take care of you.

1150
00:58:05,770 --> 00:58:07,690
But even then the guy figures
out who he's.

1151
00:58:07,690 --> 00:58:09,610
Oh, you're Adrian. Oh, yeah.
Ancient's here.

1152
00:58:09,850 --> 00:58:14,330
Don't apologize. You are more
than welcome here. After all, this

1153
00:58:14,330 --> 00:58:15,770
is a. A party.

1154
00:58:17,290 --> 00:58:17,930
Thank you.

1155
00:58:18,890 --> 00:58:22,330
Tell me, how did such a
handsome thing like you get stuck

1156
00:58:22,330 --> 00:58:23,940
out in the cold alone?

1157
00:58:24,420 --> 00:58:25,540
I'm looking for somebody.

1158
00:58:25,940 --> 00:58:26,820
Aren't we all?

1159
00:58:28,900 --> 00:58:31,980
My friend Isaac, he came here
to work over the summer, then just

1160
00:58:31,980 --> 00:58:34,100
never came home. So my partner
and I.

1161
00:58:34,100 --> 00:58:38,740
Partner? Well, I didn't see
any partner. Where could he be?

1162
00:58:39,059 --> 00:58:41,860
Well, that's who I'm looking
for. He's with this guy Eric.

1163
00:58:41,860 --> 00:58:42,980
Oh, Eric.

1164
00:58:44,420 --> 00:58:48,060
And you know that handsome
young thing he was with it. That's

1165
00:58:48,060 --> 00:58:53,510
your partner? Oh, he is a
looker. What is Adrian, is it? Maybe

1166
00:58:53,510 --> 00:59:03,710
I could get someone to fetch
him for you. But you know, he did

1167
00:59:03,710 --> 00:59:08,630
want me to give you these. The
car is fixed.

1168
00:59:08,630 --> 00:59:09,390
It's out back.

1169
00:59:09,710 --> 00:59:16,640
But he told me you wouldn't be
lasting long tonight. Do try to enjoy

1170
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,800
yourself. After all, this is a celebration.

1171
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:26,320
You want to make sure you have
these. Your car keys. We fixed your

1172
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,000
car for you. Here's your last
chance, stupid.

1173
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:30,680
Please take the car keys.

1174
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:31,720
Take them.

1175
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:40,480
It leads to a scene of
violence that's so graphic, it. The

1176
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,000
word I had for it was
operatic. There's something operatic

1177
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,920
about the gore. Yeah. And how
this all plays out. It's really shocking.

1178
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,120
It's really unexpected. I
mean, the level of detail that it

1179
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:54,320
gets into is, is, is really
shocking. It's also, again, in the

1180
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:58,760
broad day, in broad daylight,
which also, for some reason, lends

1181
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,400
it an even because you're, you
know, expect in broad daylight, everything's

1182
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:07,830
going to be pretty and shiny
and a lot of bad body horror happens

1183
01:00:07,830 --> 01:00:12,710
in this, in this final shot.
And like, we've been following this

1184
01:00:12,710 --> 01:00:18,110
character the entire movie. We
feel for him. He's become our in

1185
01:00:18,110 --> 01:00:21,790
to this film. Right? He's the,
he's the one that hasn't succumbed

1186
01:00:22,350 --> 01:00:27,990
and now he's being held
against his will. And like torture

1187
01:00:27,990 --> 01:00:33,590
in movies is just, you know,
it really gets to me because that,

1188
01:00:33,590 --> 01:00:36,510
the feeling of helplessness,
the feeling, especially in this movie,

1189
01:00:36,510 --> 01:00:40,530
like you said, given so many
chances to leave, given so many chances

1190
01:00:40,530 --> 01:00:43,890
to turn around, Adrian is
constantly pushing him. Let's go,

1191
01:00:43,890 --> 01:00:44,890
let's go, let's go.

1192
01:00:45,690 --> 01:00:46,090
And.

1193
01:00:46,090 --> 01:00:52,050
Yeah. And then to end up this
way is just so sad. It's upsetting.

1194
01:00:52,050 --> 01:00:55,450
It's upsetting. And in the way
it plays out, it's all very slow

1195
01:00:55,450 --> 01:00:56,050
and it's not.

1196
01:00:56,050 --> 01:00:56,890
Even, it's not even.

1197
01:00:56,890 --> 01:01:02,490
It's that I, it, the gore is
extreme, but there's something about

1198
01:01:02,490 --> 01:01:05,960
it that's also not extreme.
Exploitive. Right. Like, Right. It's

1199
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:07,280
about the artistry of it all,.

1200
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:08,120
Which makes it worse.

1201
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:12,280
Like, look at how beautiful
we're making this. Yeah. Yeah. Someone,

1202
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:16,640
someone compared it to early
Tom Savini or Tom Savini special

1203
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:20,680
effects, which always are.
Which always look super realistic,

1204
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:24,520
but also, like you said,
operatic in a way. And I, I'm, I'm

1205
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:32,350
not. I've learned damn over
time. I don't like watching my friends

1206
01:01:32,430 --> 01:01:39,510
die on film. So this I, I, I,
I, I cry every time I see a friend

1207
01:01:39,510 --> 01:01:43,750
in a horror movie. I make a
kill. This I was born. This whole

1208
01:01:43,750 --> 01:01:46,190
thing is all so upsetting.
It's all upsetting.

1209
01:01:46,190 --> 01:01:47,110
And I wish we could tell you.

1210
01:01:47,110 --> 01:01:48,310
More, but you have to go buy.

1211
01:01:48,310 --> 01:01:49,230
The, you have to go buy the.

1212
01:01:49,230 --> 01:01:53,550
Blu Ray to find out and do.
Buy the Blu Ray. Buy it.

1213
01:01:53,630 --> 01:01:54,030
Yeah.

1214
01:01:54,030 --> 01:01:58,040
Okay, before we go and just
wrap things up on the other end,

1215
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,520
would you recommend this
movie? Would you recommend this movie?

1216
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:04,560
Absolutely. I mean, this movie
pushes all my buttons. Like I said,

1217
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:10,719
isolated location, surreal
imagery. I love a slow burn. I love

1218
01:02:10,719 --> 01:02:13,120
a slow burn because I'm a
child of the seventies. And. And

1219
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,920
the seventies were all. It's,
you know, this is like Messiah of

1220
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:20,120
Evil Dead and Buried all the
films we talked about. I love this

1221
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,210
location. I would totally
recommend this movie. I. And, you

1222
01:02:23,210 --> 01:02:26,930
know, it's not. I would. I
would say it's not just for gay viewers.

1223
01:02:26,930 --> 01:02:30,850
I think everybody would. And
horror fans of all ilks were. Will

1224
01:02:30,850 --> 01:02:34,970
get something out of this
film. So, yeah, I totally recommend

1225
01:02:34,970 --> 01:02:36,130
it. Totally recommend it.

1226
01:02:36,130 --> 01:02:36,690
Well said, sir.

1227
01:02:36,690 --> 01:02:41,090
And also, you said ilks, which
is one of my favorite words. No,

1228
01:02:41,090 --> 01:02:45,330
I agree. I think also, I mean,
it is for a horror movie for everybody.

1229
01:02:45,330 --> 01:02:48,810
Because I did the. The group
that I did show it to was mixed.

1230
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:52,920
And those who did stay really
enjoyed it. But if you're squeamish

1231
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:55,040
about gay stuff, it's not for
you. Like, but. And they're not gonna

1232
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:56,880
apologize for that. They're
not gonna hold your hand through

1233
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,160
the gay stuff and say, no,
this is the ugly stuff that we do.

1234
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,280
This is our people. This is
who we are. Deal with it. And it

1235
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:03,720
also doesn't. It also doesn't.

1236
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:03,960
Like.

1237
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,800
It leaves a lot of things
unanswered. It leaves a lot of questions,

1238
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:10,320
which is the. Which is also a
great thing about the 70s movies,

1239
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:14,320
right? Yeah, like. Like Texas
Chainsaw, all this horrifying things.

1240
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,760
Stuff happens. And you're
like, why? Why did that happen? Happen

1241
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:20,680
in this. There's so. There's
so much mystery that's still left

1242
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,840
at the end. We don't really
completely know what's going on,

1243
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:27,080
who these people are, why
they're doing this. I mean, it sent

1244
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:30,120
me down a rabbit hole of
looking up, what was Saint. Who was

1245
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:33,120
Saint Drago? How was that. Or
Drogo? How was that connected to

1246
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,840
this film? How was that
connected to the events of this film?

1247
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:39,480
Like you said, there's all
these biblical references. So this.

1248
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:43,370
This. This movie has a. This
movie will keep you talking also.

1249
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:47,600
So after you've seen it. Yeah,
100%. 100%. Not giving anything away,

1250
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:51,480
but there is a St. Drogo.
You're wondering why this is called

1251
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,080
St. Drogo. St. Drogo rises
from the sea. And it's not good,

1252
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:58,640
right? It's not good. But in
the early Prince, St. Drogo drops.

1253
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,440
He comes in with the Act 3
exposition drop. This is what this

1254
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,560
is all about. This is what I
want. This is what we've all been

1255
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:07,080
building to. This is why this
is happening. And I couldn't understand

1256
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:11,390
a fucking word he said. Not a
single, single word he said. And

1257
01:04:11,390 --> 01:04:14,190
so I was so happy when the Blu
Ray came out. He's got subtitles

1258
01:04:14,190 --> 01:04:16,830
now. Oh. Oh, yeah, yeah.

1259
01:04:16,830 --> 01:04:17,950
Subtitles weren't there,.

1260
01:04:19,710 --> 01:04:22,430
But even with the subtitles,
it's still a little bit murky.

1261
01:04:22,430 --> 01:04:24,630
Like, it's a little bit murky.
But the thing is, I've done my.

1262
01:04:24,630 --> 01:04:27,590
Head cannon on it, and I think
I have my own thing because I built

1263
01:04:27,590 --> 01:04:30,910
my own version. When I didn't
have that, when I didn't have his

1264
01:04:30,910 --> 01:04:33,790
exposition, I had to figure
out for myself what was going on.

1265
01:04:33,790 --> 01:04:36,880
And I had something that I
think works, and it still works.

1266
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:38,440
And we'll talk about it on the
other side.

1267
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:40,000
All right, Dan, to make us.

1268
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,240
You have some projects coming
up. Let people know where they can

1269
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:42,400
find.

1270
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:43,680
You and what neat things
you're doing.

1271
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:47,120
In New York City soon. I'm
right now rehearsing a play at the

1272
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:50,000
Public Theater. It's called
Public Charge. We start performances

1273
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:55,240
March 12th. Public theater,
that's theater with T E r@theend.org.

1274
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:59,240
Buy your tickets. We're
running through from March 12th to

1275
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:03,720
April 5th. And I've. I've got
my own podcast, too. Hot Date with

1276
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:08,000
dan and Vicki. Hotdatepod.com
you can find it us. You can find

1277
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:09,080
us on all your podcasts.

1278
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:10,160
What happens on the hot date?

1279
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:11,120
What do you do? What.

1280
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:12,360
What's so hot about this date?

1281
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:16,760
Well, we pick a random date in
history and then we find a movie

1282
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:20,600
that came out around or near
that date, and Vicky and I watch

1283
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:25,120
it and talk about it. So it's
our way of watching movies that we

1284
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:28,720
haven't seen. Sort of
expanding our own film library. So.

1285
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:30,560
No, I like that because, you
know, it doesn't limit you to one

1286
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,880
genre or anything. Exactly. We
jump around. People always think,

1287
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,960
because it's me, it's a horror
podcast. But it's not actually. We

1288
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,500
actually don't talk about
horror a ton. I. We do, but the film

1289
01:05:40,500 --> 01:05:43,380
we choose is usually not
horror. Always good to push one's

1290
01:05:43,380 --> 01:05:51,300
bond bound. Always good to use
words that can you pronounce. Use

1291
01:05:51,300 --> 01:05:52,900
your words, Patrick. Use your words.

1292
01:05:54,660 --> 01:05:56,780
All right, for those of you
who are brave and want to find out

1293
01:05:56,780 --> 01:05:59,540
what happened in. In St. Joe,
for those who've already seen it

1294
01:05:59,540 --> 01:06:02,020
and want to. Want to hear what
we've got to say about what I think's

1295
01:06:02,020 --> 01:06:04,020
been going on. What Dan think
is going on. We'll see you.

1296
01:06:04,020 --> 01:06:04,830
I'm the other side.

1297
01:06:16,030 --> 01:06:20,870
Okay, that was fabulous. Yay.
Thank you once again to my very special

1298
01:06:20,870 --> 01:06:23,710
guest, Dan Domingues. It's
always such a pleasure to hang out

1299
01:06:23,710 --> 01:06:27,150
with you and talk about scary
movies. I bet some of you sitting

1300
01:06:27,150 --> 01:06:30,910
out there have noticed. Hey,
Patrick, isn't that play that dad

1301
01:06:30,910 --> 01:06:33,310
talked about appearing at the
Public? Didn't that close, like weeks

1302
01:06:33,310 --> 01:06:35,910
ago? Yes, it did.
Unfortunately, this episode took

1303
01:06:35,910 --> 01:06:39,330
a lot longer to produce than I
wanted to do.

1304
01:06:39,330 --> 01:06:42,330
To microphone problems, which
I'll try to explain in a little bit.

1305
01:06:42,490 --> 01:06:45,890
I worked my hardest to get
this episode out. Said he could at

1306
01:06:45,890 --> 01:06:47,850
least catch the tail end of
Dan at the Public.

1307
01:06:47,850 --> 01:06:51,010
Theater, but unfortunately it
was just not in the cards.

1308
01:06:51,010 --> 01:06:54,690
However, I spoke to Dan and if
you want to see some stuff that he's

1309
01:06:54,690 --> 01:06:58,650
doing, he's in the video
podcast Vex voom in the 21st century.

1310
01:06:58,650 --> 01:07:04,140
It's his new neo futuristic
sci fi spoof podcast that's available

1311
01:07:04,140 --> 01:07:06,860
on video as well. He's going
to do 15 episodes of them. Or rather,

1312
01:07:06,860 --> 01:07:07,660
I should say he has.

1313
01:07:07,660 --> 01:07:10,180
Done 15 episodes of them. So
they're available out there.

1314
01:07:11,140 --> 01:07:12,220
It's very funny.

1315
01:07:12,220 --> 01:07:13,460
I just watched a couple of them.

1316
01:07:13,860 --> 01:07:15,700
If you like the Lost Skeleton of.

1317
01:07:15,700 --> 01:07:19,700
Cadavera, you'll love Vex foom
in the 21st century because I got

1318
01:07:19,700 --> 01:07:19,900
a real.

1319
01:07:19,900 --> 01:07:20,380
Kick out of it.

1320
01:07:20,380 --> 01:07:21,220
The link will be down there in.

1321
01:07:21,220 --> 01:07:24,900
The show notes as well as a
link to Dan's other podcast, Hot

1322
01:07:24,900 --> 01:07:25,300
Date.

1323
01:07:25,300 --> 01:07:26,380
With Dan and Vicki.

1324
01:07:26,380 --> 01:07:28,940
So once again, thank you, Dan.
It was pleasure having you would

1325
01:07:28,940 --> 01:07:31,820
be on this very special
occasion. Patrick, what's going on

1326
01:07:31,820 --> 01:07:34,060
with the microphones? I don't
know. I don't.

1327
01:07:34,060 --> 01:07:35,860
I still don't know. It's an
ongoing thing.

1328
01:07:35,860 --> 01:07:39,780
It's been going on since I
ended the show. I ended the show

1329
01:07:39,780 --> 01:07:40,420
and immediately started.

1330
01:07:40,420 --> 01:07:44,260
Having these mic conflict
problems. My m. My major microphone,

1331
01:07:44,740 --> 01:07:45,220
my big,.

1332
01:07:45,220 --> 01:07:49,940
Expensive microphone just
won't work with my PC. So I bought

1333
01:07:49,940 --> 01:07:50,660
a new PC and.

1334
01:07:50,660 --> 01:07:52,180
It's not working with that either.

1335
01:07:52,340 --> 01:07:54,940
Except sometimes it works and
sometimes it doesn't, and I don't.

1336
01:07:55,010 --> 01:07:59,730
I don't know why. One of the
secondary reasons that this episode

1337
01:07:59,730 --> 01:08:01,890
with Dan took so long was not
so much the microphone problems.

1338
01:08:01,890 --> 01:08:05,730
It was that when we recorded,
it was a good microphone day. Everything

1339
01:08:05,730 --> 01:08:09,650
worked and we sound great. But
now I have to add pickups.

1340
01:08:09,650 --> 01:08:10,530
I have to add the beginning of.

1341
01:08:10,530 --> 01:08:12,570
The show, I have to add the
end of the show, and all of a sudden

1342
01:08:12,570 --> 01:08:15,570
the mic's not cooperating.
It's not cooperating right now. I

1343
01:08:15,570 --> 01:08:16,530
don't know if you can hear it.

1344
01:08:17,170 --> 01:08:19,170
I'm on a shitty headset mic and.

1345
01:08:19,170 --> 01:08:20,620
I didn't want to change the quality.

1346
01:08:20,769 --> 01:08:23,769
Quality of sound mid show.
Like have these little pops of. Of

1347
01:08:23,769 --> 01:08:27,169
questionable sound and make
everything, well, shitty at least.

1348
01:08:27,169 --> 01:08:29,249
Definitely this tag at least
episode's over. It's done.

1349
01:08:29,409 --> 01:08:30,609
You've already invested.

1350
01:08:31,889 --> 01:08:34,369
But the episode said it's so
good and this movie means so much

1351
01:08:34,369 --> 01:08:37,769
to me that I want the episode
to be perfect. Okay? It's my resurrection

1352
01:08:37,769 --> 01:08:38,849
and they're ruining it.

1353
01:08:38,849 --> 01:08:39,529
It's not fair.

1354
01:08:39,529 --> 01:08:41,289
I'm gonna have to come back, do.

1355
01:08:41,289 --> 01:08:43,409
It all over again anyway.

1356
01:08:43,409 --> 01:08:47,800
I don't know what's going on.
Anyone out there is a PC expert who

1357
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:49,240
might be able to help me.

1358
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:52,760
Understand what's going on.
Why it's. Sometimes one sometimes

1359
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,280
works, sometimes not. Because
let's let me tell you, I bought a

1360
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:58,280
new PC. It's not working
there. Spoke to the microphone manufacturer.

1361
01:08:58,280 --> 01:08:59,800
They sent me a patch for the.

1362
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,680
For the drivers. It worked for
a while, but now today it's not working

1363
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,840
yet. Today when I want to
finish the Dan episode is not working.

1364
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:09,440
I'm complaining. I'm
complaining and ruining my own resurrection.

1365
01:09:09,440 --> 01:09:12,760
From the dead party. Okay, I
know the real question on all of

1366
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,860
your mind is patch or Eric,
when are you coming back to see us

1367
01:09:15,860 --> 01:09:16,180
again?

1368
01:09:16,500 --> 01:09:17,380
Well, I don't know.

1369
01:09:17,380 --> 01:09:18,860
That's not entirely up to me.

1370
01:09:18,860 --> 01:09:19,780
Like I said, there is a short.

1371
01:09:19,780 --> 01:09:22,700
List of films and I'm not
telling you what they are that I

1372
01:09:22,700 --> 01:09:26,540
said when they finally get
released on a mainstream level, or

1373
01:09:26,540 --> 01:09:29,060
at least a more public way, I
want to cover them because I think

1374
01:09:29,060 --> 01:09:31,900
they're fabulous and I think
you'll love them. I don't know when

1375
01:09:31,900 --> 01:09:39,260
they're coming, so we wait.
However, I also said when I stumble.

1376
01:09:39,260 --> 01:09:43,729
Across a movie that is so
ScreamQueenzthat I can't not come

1377
01:09:43,729 --> 01:09:46,169
back from the dead and talk
about it, I will do that as well.

1378
01:09:46,329 --> 01:09:47,889
I have a couple of those in.

1379
01:09:47,889 --> 01:09:48,769
The books as well.

1380
01:09:48,769 --> 01:09:51,169
I also don't want to overload
you, be like Patrick. I thought you

1381
01:09:51,169 --> 01:09:53,369
were. I thought you were
retired. What do you share?

1382
01:09:53,529 --> 01:09:55,929
Yes, I am. Yes, I am.

1383
01:09:55,929 --> 01:09:59,209
So I don't want to be
bombarding you with ScreamQueenzepisodes

1384
01:09:59,209 --> 01:10:00,969
after I retired, constantly.

1385
01:10:00,969 --> 01:10:03,049
So we're going to wait.

1386
01:10:03,129 --> 01:10:04,129
You're going to get one at the.

1387
01:10:04,129 --> 01:10:07,689
End of the summer. Okay. And
then get another one around Christmas.

1388
01:10:07,689 --> 01:10:12,870
How's going it that? So keep
your eyes on your feed and we'll

1389
01:10:12,870 --> 01:10:13,350
see what happens.

1390
01:10:13,350 --> 01:10:15,390
And also, you need to Be
keeping your eyes on your feet anyway,

1391
01:10:15,390 --> 01:10:17,870
because there's lots going on
at the ScreamQueenz Potter verse.

1392
01:10:18,030 --> 01:10:20,670
If you love Friday the 13th
the series, you should be listening

1393
01:10:20,670 --> 01:10:24,590
to Damian Wonka Lewis. Our
Friday the 13th this series retrospective

1394
01:10:24,590 --> 01:10:27,470
podcast for years is only
available on Patreon, and now it's

1395
01:10:27,470 --> 01:10:32,350
slowly being released to the
public every third Friday of the

1396
01:10:32,350 --> 01:10:34,790
month. Yes, it's a schedule
change that just.

1397
01:10:34,790 --> 01:10:36,630
Happened, but every third
Friday you're gonna get episodes.

1398
01:10:36,630 --> 01:10:38,590
First Friday get a retro
ScreamQueenzand the third Friday

1399
01:10:38,590 --> 01:10:41,290
get a Damien Walker Lewis. If
you love Scream. If you miss Scream

1400
01:10:41,290 --> 01:10:44,570
Queen so much, I'm re
releasing classic episodes every

1401
01:10:44,890 --> 01:10:48,050
first Friday. Classic episodes
that haven't seen the light of day

1402
01:10:48,050 --> 01:10:51,570
till 2017. Remember way back,
long time listeners, I had a completely

1403
01:10:51,570 --> 01:10:55,050
different theme song. It used
to be Hunting for witches. I go hunted

1404
01:10:55,050 --> 01:10:57,850
for witches. How to go in a
row. Well, I lost the rights of that.

1405
01:10:57,850 --> 01:10:59,770
I couldn't use it anymore, so
I had to take all those episodes

1406
01:10:59,770 --> 01:11:02,570
down. However, I'm editing
them down and re releasing them every

1407
01:11:02,570 --> 01:11:05,490
first Friday of the month. So
you can relive the early magic of

1408
01:11:05,490 --> 01:11:08,700
ScreamQueenz and also also
keep your eyes on your feeds. Because

1409
01:11:08,860 --> 01:11:11,700
public episodes of it came
from the 70s. The movie where I talk

1410
01:11:11,700 --> 01:11:14,900
about films made for TV.
Movies from the 70s where we thought

1411
01:11:14,900 --> 01:11:16,140
saccharine was a good idea.

1412
01:11:16,460 --> 01:11:17,620
We got a new one coming down.

1413
01:11:17,620 --> 01:11:20,820
The pike next month. Next
month we're going to be talking.

1414
01:11:20,820 --> 01:11:23,380
About my friend Martin is
coming back,.

1415
01:11:23,380 --> 01:11:25,980
Who you met at Crow Haven
Farm. He's coming back to talk about

1416
01:11:25,980 --> 01:11:30,100
She's Dressed to Kill. It's
all about. The world's greatest models

1417
01:11:30,100 --> 01:11:34,870
are invited to an exclusive
fashion show at a mountain tops chalet

1418
01:11:34,870 --> 01:11:38,350
and get knocked off one by one
by one. It's like an Agatha Christie,

1419
01:11:38,350 --> 01:11:40,990
but the whole cast is filled
with the cheesiest 70s people ever.

1420
01:11:41,230 --> 01:11:44,510
It's terrible and you'll love
it. That's coming next month. And

1421
01:11:44,590 --> 01:11:47,670
if I get this microphone
things resolved, I will start recording

1422
01:11:47,670 --> 01:11:51,190
these, what I like to call
ScreamQueenzbehind the Screams, where

1423
01:11:51,190 --> 01:11:55,070
I'm talking to LGBT horror
filmmakers. I got Roger Connors,

1424
01:11:55,070 --> 01:11:58,590
director of the gay slasher
movie Meet, waiting in the wings.

1425
01:11:58,750 --> 01:12:01,590
However, I can't do it with a
shitty microphone. So let's just

1426
01:12:01,590 --> 01:12:03,830
pray we get these things
resolved. So, hey, if you know anything

1427
01:12:03,830 --> 01:12:07,210
about PCs, if you have any
electronic wizardry in your system,

1428
01:12:07,610 --> 01:12:09,890
please contact me. Please let
me know. And let's see if we can

1429
01:12:09,890 --> 01:12:12,810
get this fixed. Because Lord
knows, Best Buy has been no help.

1430
01:12:12,890 --> 01:12:15,570
But I am complaining again on
My very special day.

1431
01:12:15,570 --> 01:12:18,450
And I'm not going to do that.
So I'm just going to say thank.

1432
01:12:18,450 --> 01:12:19,770
You again to Dan for joining me.

1433
01:12:19,770 --> 01:12:23,730
But more importantly, thank
you everybody for being here. It's

1434
01:12:23,730 --> 01:12:27,130
nice to see everybody still
here. Maybe we made some new friends

1435
01:12:27,130 --> 01:12:30,130
along the way as well. I made
more friends dead than I was alive.

1436
01:12:30,130 --> 01:12:32,770
How sad. What are we. What am
I even talking about? I don't know

1437
01:12:32,770 --> 01:12:36,240
anymore. All right, I.
Everyone, whether you're coming to

1438
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:39,640
join me on board at it came
from the 70s or a Damian Lewis, or

1439
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:41,800
you just gotta wait around for
the next new ScreamQueenz to roll

1440
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:45,720
around wherever it was. Thank
you so much for joining me. But just

1441
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:49,880
remember, the ScreamQueenz
golden rule is still in effect. Fight

1442
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,160
or flight, survive the night, make.

1443
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:55,360
It to the final reel. They
stay safe, stay healthy, and most

1444
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:58,520
of all, stay fabulous. Because
I love you.

1445
01:12:58,920 --> 01:12:59,880
Now get out of here.

1446
01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:02,560
Except, of course, if you're
sticking around to hear the spoiler

1447
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:03,870
for Saint Drogo, in which.

1448
01:13:03,940 --> 01:13:05,780
Which case, don't go anywhere.

1449
01:13:05,780 --> 01:13:18,460
For the rest of you, get out
of here. All of the music for tonight's

1450
01:13:18,460 --> 01:13:22,980
show, unless otherwise
specified, has been written by Sam

1451
01:13:23,060 --> 01:13:31,390
Haynes. You can find all of
his music@www.bandcamp.ass.

1452
01:13:39,470 --> 01:13:40,030
Ew.

1453
01:13:43,710 --> 01:13:50,670
Dance. Yes. Girl, girl, girl.
What the hell is going on here?

1454
01:13:51,150 --> 01:13:55,590
We have got to talk about the
end of this movie. All right, listeners,

1455
01:13:55,590 --> 01:13:58,350
this is your absolute last
chance. If you don't want St. Joe

1456
01:13:58,420 --> 01:14:03,940
go spoiled, turn the recording
off now because we can't wait anymore.

1457
01:14:04,100 --> 01:14:08,220
5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Here we go. By
the way, ding dong, this is Patrick

1458
01:14:08,220 --> 01:14:09,260
from the future, because Dan and.

1459
01:14:09,260 --> 01:14:10,500
I got so excited that we just.

1460
01:14:10,500 --> 01:14:13,340
Dove right into the nitty
gritty without actually explaining

1461
01:14:13,340 --> 01:14:17,180
anything that happens in the
end of this film. Okay, so we were

1462
01:14:17,180 --> 01:14:22,500
at the party right now at the
party, Caleb was sitting with the

1463
01:14:22,500 --> 01:14:25,220
host, right? And the host was
like, hey, everything's great, you

1464
01:14:25,220 --> 01:14:29,180
know, Here are your keys. Have
some drugs. Enjoy the party. And

1465
01:14:29,340 --> 01:14:33,300
last we saw him, Caleb said no
to the drugs, took the keys, but

1466
01:14:33,300 --> 01:14:37,340
didn't take the opportunity to
escape. However, he did accept the

1467
01:14:37,340 --> 01:14:40,540
cup of tea that the host was
so kind to provide for him on this

1468
01:14:40,540 --> 01:14:44,140
cold, wintry night. Whatever
you do when you're in this kind of

1469
01:14:44,140 --> 01:14:46,940
a situation, don't drink the
tea because, surprise, it spiked.

1470
01:14:46,940 --> 01:14:50,100
So when Caleb is wandering
through the party, we're never really

1471
01:14:50,100 --> 01:14:53,510
sure if what he's seeing is
real or if what he is seeing is an

1472
01:14:53,510 --> 01:14:56,710
illusion. If all the sex and
perversion and strange things that

1473
01:14:56,710 --> 01:15:00,390
we see are a fantasy or
Reality. Guess what? Their reality.

1474
01:15:00,390 --> 01:15:03,750
And one of the things we see
with the last things we see is Adrian,

1475
01:15:03,750 --> 01:15:07,030
his boyfriend, getting pounded
by the host of his party while the

1476
01:15:07,030 --> 01:15:09,910
host is just staring Caleb
right in the eye, like, yep, I'm

1477
01:15:09,910 --> 01:15:14,710
taking this. He's mine now.
He's one of us now, Adrian. You fucking

1478
01:15:14,710 --> 01:15:15,510
kidding me?

1479
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:22,160
Get the out of here. Come on, Kaleb.

1480
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:25,520
Please, Adrian.

1481
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:31,680
I don't want to go with you.

1482
01:15:40,480 --> 01:15:44,160
Caleb eventually passes out.
When he wakes up, he's on the beach.

1483
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:47,190
It's morning. It's a
beautiful, cold, wintry morning.

1484
01:15:47,420 --> 01:15:51,020
Morning. But he's tied up.
Everybody's in robes, chanting, hail,

1485
01:15:51,020 --> 01:15:51,740
Saint Drogo.

1486
01:15:51,740 --> 01:15:53,900
Hail, hail, Saint Drogo.

1487
01:15:55,740 --> 01:16:00,620
Hail Saint Drogo. The Wicker
man ending. Here it comes. And it's

1488
01:16:00,620 --> 01:16:01,180
going to be bad.

1489
01:16:01,260 --> 01:16:05,540
This is a very long sequence,
and we're just exploring the layers

1490
01:16:05,540 --> 01:16:06,940
of betrayal that have gone on.

1491
01:16:06,940 --> 01:16:08,420
That we see that Adrian's
there and.

1492
01:16:08,420 --> 01:16:11,260
He's just watching and he's
not going to help. He's gone. Kept

1493
01:16:11,260 --> 01:16:12,460
screaming for help and
screaming, I.

1494
01:16:12,460 --> 01:16:15,490
Love you, but it's just too
late. And he gets one more chance

1495
01:16:15,570 --> 01:16:20,410
to save himself, because Saint
Drogo finally arrives, that robed

1496
01:16:20,410 --> 01:16:22,770
figure that we've seen
throughout. We now see him being

1497
01:16:22,770 --> 01:16:23,970
escorted onto the beach.

1498
01:16:24,290 --> 01:16:26,850
And we finally see what's
under the robes. It's this hideous,

1499
01:16:27,250 --> 01:16:30,010
withered skeleton of a.

1500
01:16:30,010 --> 01:16:33,970
Creature with too many teeth.
Teeth in places where you shouldn't

1501
01:16:33,970 --> 01:16:36,890
have teeth. And Saint Drogo
gives him an ultimatum, essentially

1502
01:16:36,890 --> 01:16:40,330
saying, join me. We don't have
to do this. All you need to do is

1503
01:16:40,330 --> 01:16:43,250
partake of my communion and
you'll be one us of forever. And

1504
01:16:43,250 --> 01:16:44,610
the communion is that drug that.

1505
01:16:44,610 --> 01:16:47,130
They've been pushing on him.
But Caleb says no.

1506
01:16:47,130 --> 01:16:51,690
And he's sacrificed in this
incredibly slow ritual. His legs

1507
01:16:51,690 --> 01:16:55,530
are broken and he's
disemboweled. He's beheaded. It's

1508
01:16:55,530 --> 01:16:59,050
a lot. While everyone stands
and watches, while Adrian stands

1509
01:16:59,050 --> 01:17:01,250
there and watches. And in all
this, we also discover that, oh,

1510
01:17:01,250 --> 01:17:03,530
by the way, Isaac's alive.

1511
01:17:04,170 --> 01:17:04,970
He's fine.

1512
01:17:06,010 --> 01:17:09,980
He's one of the people that
are helping. This has all been for

1513
01:17:09,980 --> 01:17:14,660
nothing. You've been chasing a
lie this whole time. This was inevitable.

1514
01:17:14,660 --> 01:17:17,340
We gave you a million chances
to escape. That's the big ending

1515
01:17:17,340 --> 01:17:19,220
of the movie. Caleb is killed.

1516
01:17:19,540 --> 01:17:20,500
Evil wins.

1517
01:17:21,780 --> 01:17:23,620
It's very upsetting.

1518
01:17:24,980 --> 01:17:26,180
There's a text in which we'll get.

1519
01:17:26,180 --> 01:17:27,780
Into later because I want to
talk to Dan.

1520
01:17:28,020 --> 01:17:29,300
I've been yapping long enough.

1521
01:17:29,540 --> 01:17:33,100
Okay. Not to spoil the ending
of Death Drop gorgeous for you, Dan,

1522
01:17:33,100 --> 01:17:33,300
because I.

1523
01:17:33,300 --> 01:17:35,460
Know you didn't finish it but
movie's been out for a while and

1524
01:17:35,460 --> 01:17:37,700
you should have finished it by
now. I know you were saying. But

1525
01:17:37,700 --> 01:17:41,180
Brandon who plays Caleb and
this also gets disemboweled at the

1526
01:17:41,180 --> 01:17:42,980
end of. You're kidding.

1527
01:17:43,300 --> 01:17:45,700
I've said I've seen his
insights so.

1528
01:17:45,700 --> 01:17:48,340
Many times by now. These guys
have themes.

1529
01:17:48,340 --> 01:17:49,940
Good lord, Brandon. Put him away.

1530
01:17:50,340 --> 01:17:56,180
Brandon's one big prolapse. I
love you, Brandon. So.

1531
01:17:56,260 --> 01:17:59,220
So. Yeah. So the whole thing
is that Provincetown is run by a

1532
01:17:59,220 --> 01:18:01,020
religious cult that's not even
a cult.

1533
01:18:01,020 --> 01:18:03,750
It's a religion. It's flat out
religion. Who new.

1534
01:18:04,150 --> 01:18:08,710
Yeah. There's some ancient
evil that that's. That's. That gives

1535
01:18:08,950 --> 01:18:10,230
Province centers magic.

1536
01:18:10,230 --> 01:18:14,350
Not prom. Yeah. Provincetown.
Provincetown. Yeah. Yeah. It's often.

1537
01:18:14,350 --> 01:18:16,830
Yeah. I often mistake the
thing is there. For Providence and

1538
01:18:16,830 --> 01:18:21,550
it's death drop takes. Place
in Providence, I think. Aren't they

1539
01:18:21,550 --> 01:18:24,470
coming from Providence at the.
At this top of this movie?

1540
01:18:24,470 --> 01:18:25,510
They are. They are.

1541
01:18:25,990 --> 01:18:28,790
What I like since Providence
is it's game back at all tone like

1542
01:18:28,790 --> 01:18:31,990
this one actually in its own
way shits on the other like don't

1543
01:18:31,990 --> 01:18:33,530
go there. They're run by devil people.

1544
01:18:34,730 --> 01:18:35,690
Come see us. We're cool.

1545
01:18:35,690 --> 01:18:38,410
But we're cool slashers. We
have cool slashers. I would almost

1546
01:18:38,410 --> 01:18:40,570
blew the ending for you. But
I'm not going to do. That's okay.

1547
01:18:41,370 --> 01:18:44,090
The other thing that this
movie reminded of and like I said

1548
01:18:44,090 --> 01:18:47,450
I had to form my own initially
had to form my own idea of what's

1549
01:18:47,450 --> 01:18:54,210
going on here is that. Did you
read Clive Barker's Midnight Meat

1550
01:18:54,210 --> 01:18:59,300
Train? No, but I've seen the
movie. I haven't read it. No. Yeah.

1551
01:18:59,620 --> 01:19:03,180
Something that's missing from
the movie. The opening paragraph

1552
01:19:03,180 --> 01:19:06,900
of Midnight Me Train basically
says that there are certain places

1553
01:19:06,980 --> 01:19:12,820
in the world, cities that are
magic. They've always been magic.

1554
01:19:13,700 --> 01:19:15,820
And the reason why they've
always been magic is because the

1555
01:19:15,820 --> 01:19:19,300
ancients, that's where the
ancients dwelled. The old gods lived

1556
01:19:19,300 --> 01:19:22,700
like New York. It's magic. It
will always be magic. That's where

1557
01:19:22,700 --> 01:19:26,310
they dwell. The thing is
they're still here. They're old and

1558
01:19:26,310 --> 01:19:30,990
firm now and they need to be
fed. Yeah. You want to keep the magic

1559
01:19:30,990 --> 01:19:36,270
going, you gotta feed us. So
in my mind, Saint Jogo is kind of

1560
01:19:36,830 --> 01:19:39,990
the thing I came up with. It
said, do my bidding and I will make

1561
01:19:39,990 --> 01:19:46,110
a paradise for your people.
You will want for nothing. Just feed

1562
01:19:46,110 --> 01:19:48,750
me over the winter. Feed me
some pretty boys.

1563
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:51,000
Wow.

1564
01:19:52,440 --> 01:19:55,000
And you've talked about
looking up what Saint Drogo meant.

1565
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:58,240
Saint Drogo apparently was the
patron saint of ugly people. Of ugly

1566
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:03,160
people and unattractive
people. Yes. Also of coffee and shepherds.

1567
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:05,839
Yeah, yeah. Shepherd's is
official coffee. Nobody knows what

1568
01:20:05,839 --> 01:20:09,120
that came from. But the ugly
people one I think is fascinating

1569
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:12,280
too, because now I'm also
thinking Drogo. The word drogo in

1570
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:16,170
Spanish slang means drug
addict. Drogo. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1571
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:16,640
Which.

1572
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:20,000
He's a pusher. Saint Drogo is
a pusher. What am I talking about?

1573
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:21,120
What is this drug they're sniffing?

1574
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:22,440
What is this drug? It's not cocaine.

1575
01:20:22,440 --> 01:20:30,440
What is it down? It is ground
teeth. Oh, that all says. I mean,

1576
01:20:30,440 --> 01:20:34,040
teeth in movies. The teeth
seen in this movie or the teeth monster

1577
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:38,560
in this film. I mean, you
know, I don't know if you watch Channel

1578
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:42,880
Zero, but there was a tooth
monster in that, in that show. Anything

1579
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:48,520
like that. Chattering teeth
or. It just, it gets them. It just,

1580
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:53,600
it just really like gets under
my skin. The teeth get under my skin,

1581
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:54,240
Patrick.

1582
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,760
Especially teeth that come off
some weird tumor that's under his

1583
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:00,720
arm. It's like this.

1584
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:02,800
It's like this cancerous organ
that's made of teeth.

1585
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:05,080
They pull, they grind up and
they snort it.

1586
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:05,440
And that's.

1587
01:21:05,440 --> 01:21:07,200
That's communion. He says,
take it. My.

1588
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:12,160
He offers like, this is my
body. It's so smart. These guys are

1589
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:15,040
so smart because they're
creating this b. They're creating

1590
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:19,820
this backstory that is mythic
and biblical, but also it has all

1591
01:21:19,820 --> 01:21:24,220
these references to modern gay
culture. Right. The abuse of drugs

1592
01:21:24,220 --> 01:21:28,140
addiction is a big part of
this film. Like, like a lot of these.

1593
01:21:28,300 --> 01:21:31,340
It felt a little bit like, get
out. Right. Like these older men

1594
01:21:31,340 --> 01:21:33,820
are trying to get the spirits
of these younger men so they can

1595
01:21:33,820 --> 01:21:38,460
stay young. They need a
sacrifice. And you know, gay culture

1596
01:21:38,460 --> 01:21:41,660
is obsessed with looking
young, with looking hot. So the two

1597
01:21:41,660 --> 01:21:45,740
worlds really, really
converge. And not in a heavy handed

1598
01:21:45,740 --> 01:21:48,930
way. You're like, oh, yeah, I
can get the that. But, but, but that's

1599
01:21:48,930 --> 01:21:51,530
what I loved about the writing
and, and the production of that,

1600
01:21:51,530 --> 01:21:52,850
is that those two worlds.

1601
01:21:52,930 --> 01:21:55,250
I love the visual storytelling
I mentioned at the party. One of

1602
01:21:55,250 --> 01:21:55,410
these.

1603
01:21:55,410 --> 01:21:55,970
I love that.

1604
01:21:56,050 --> 01:21:57,130
Something that Dan just
touched on.

1605
01:21:57,130 --> 01:21:58,130
Now when we first get to the.

1606
01:21:58,130 --> 01:21:59,290
Party and we're seeing the
first floor.

1607
01:21:59,290 --> 01:22:01,610
Of the party, because there's
many, there's many levels to this

1608
01:22:01,610 --> 01:22:04,370
party, literally and
figuratively. There are many levels

1609
01:22:04,370 --> 01:22:06,170
to this party. The first one,
I'm like, everybody's into talks.

1610
01:22:06,170 --> 01:22:08,770
Everybody's over 40.
Everybody's bald. Yes. There's a

1611
01:22:08,770 --> 01:22:11,410
certain demographic. It's me.
I would be on the first Floor.

1612
01:22:12,130 --> 01:22:12,810
Hi, everybody.

1613
01:22:12,810 --> 01:22:15,410
I'm a. I'm a first floor floor
gay. But that means it would set

1614
01:22:15,410 --> 01:22:16,450
my alarm bells up. I'm like,
oh, yeah.

1615
01:22:16,450 --> 01:22:17,010
Oh, it's the a.

1616
01:22:17,170 --> 01:22:20,170
It's the toxic ays. Which
also. This is about. This is like

1617
01:22:20,170 --> 01:22:22,850
the. When you have a beautiful
gay community and the toxic community,

1618
01:22:22,850 --> 01:22:26,210
the toxic awful people come in
and take it over and ruin it. That's.

1619
01:22:26,930 --> 01:22:27,290
Yeah.

1620
01:22:27,290 --> 01:22:28,930
Which we also touch on in death.

1621
01:22:28,930 --> 01:22:32,370
Drop the whole. About the.
Because we touched on the whole gentrification

1622
01:22:32,770 --> 01:22:35,090
of Provincetown. Like we built
this beautiful community. Now straight

1623
01:22:35,090 --> 01:22:36,210
people are taking it from us.

1624
01:22:36,530 --> 01:22:37,330
It's the same thing.

1625
01:22:37,330 --> 01:22:39,450
It's like that we have this.
We built the world. And now these

1626
01:22:39,450 --> 01:22:41,330
people are here because of
that thing over there.

1627
01:22:41,490 --> 01:22:41,740
Every.

1628
01:22:41,810 --> 01:22:44,410
And going back to the whole
drug reference thing, it reminded

1629
01:22:44,410 --> 01:22:47,210
me of like, almost like a
Harvey Weinstein thing. Or like you

1630
01:22:47,210 --> 01:22:50,770
see the situations in gay
culture where you have some old creepy

1631
01:22:50,770 --> 01:22:54,330
gay dude with tons of money
who has the drugs, who has this bevy

1632
01:22:54,330 --> 01:22:57,490
of boys. Most beautiful boys.
Everybody knows him. Everybody loves

1633
01:22:57,490 --> 01:23:00,610
him. Yeah. Because he always
has the drugs on it. But this is.

1634
01:23:00,610 --> 01:23:03,370
That's exactly. They all love
Saint Drogo because they're all addicted

1635
01:23:03,370 --> 01:23:07,450
to that. To that drug. Yeah.
Yeah. It doesn't get them high, gives

1636
01:23:07,450 --> 01:23:09,490
them power. It gives them
money. It gives them respectability.

1637
01:23:09,490 --> 01:23:12,860
It makes you one of the. One
of the chosen. I. And I love this

1638
01:23:12,860 --> 01:23:15,740
idea that it eats up young
boys. Like, it takes it. It. Because

1639
01:23:15,740 --> 01:23:19,900
that it. I mean, it does
happen in towns like this where there

1640
01:23:19,900 --> 01:23:22,700
are like. Not to get too
serious. But.

1641
01:23:22,940 --> 01:23:24,700
No, it's hard. It's what we do here.

1642
01:23:24,700 --> 01:23:31,660
Go in. In the winter on places
like Nantucket and places like Provincetown.

1643
01:23:31,980 --> 01:23:35,300
The overdoses go up. Deaths
from overdoses go up. Deaths from

1644
01:23:35,300 --> 01:23:41,850
suicide go up. So it just rang
really true that that's that aspect

1645
01:23:41,850 --> 01:23:45,090
of it, like that of that idea
of eating up these young gay men

1646
01:23:45,090 --> 01:23:49,490
who are addicts and who. So it
just. Yeah, it was very sad at the

1647
01:23:49,490 --> 01:23:51,850
same time. And what I was
saying about the levels, like, I

1648
01:23:51,850 --> 01:23:54,130
don't let. Like you had the
people in the first floor like these

1649
01:23:54,130 --> 01:23:56,250
clearly with the A list. But
then up there with the working.

1650
01:23:56,970 --> 01:23:58,010
Then you had the priests.

1651
01:23:58,010 --> 01:24:00,130
You had the high priests on
the next floor. All the.

1652
01:24:00,130 --> 01:24:01,250
All the people who ropes who were.

1653
01:24:01,250 --> 01:24:03,650
Giving me don't look now vibes
when you seeing the rope. Rope. People

1654
01:24:03,650 --> 01:24:06,840
popping up around town in
certain visions. Like I now we're

1655
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:09,000
in do look now territory.
We're pulling from that now too.

1656
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:14,800
So many smart things. Yeah.
Suspiria vibes too. Suspiria vibes,

1657
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:18,360
yes, Suspiria vibes as well.
It's like a coven of something that

1658
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:22,520
yeah, controls people. All
this orgy stuff in here was so well

1659
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:26,280
shot because it felt hot but
also horrifying at the same time.

1660
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:31,000
And never clearly staged.
Clearly massively art directed.

1661
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:32,320
Like everything is.

1662
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:39,790
Is precise and, and, and for.
Done for a reason, yet never felt

1663
01:24:39,790 --> 01:24:43,550
artificial. Like I was saying,
I've just seen so many thinking of

1664
01:24:43,550 --> 01:24:45,230
a movie that I just sat there.
I don't want to say the name of it,

1665
01:24:45,230 --> 01:24:48,030
but it's a gay film that had
lots of these orgy seeds and they

1666
01:24:48,030 --> 01:24:53,150
just felt dumb. Yeah. Fake.
Like you're just doing.

1667
01:24:53,390 --> 01:24:54,430
It's like gay theater.

1668
01:24:54,430 --> 01:24:57,030
Like we're just gonna have
some like naked people in a shitty

1669
01:24:57,030 --> 01:24:59,110
play. You know, we got guys
with big dicks to get you in the

1670
01:24:59,110 --> 01:25:03,040
door. Right, right. And then
the play's like eh. But this was

1671
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:06,960
not that. It is true. The art
direction and the cinematography

1672
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:10,160
in this are great. I'm trying
to pull up the cinematographer's

1673
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:15,920
name because I just felt like
Kevin Bowden. I'm just taking that

1674
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:20,520
off of IMDb everybody. Like
the editing, I don't know, it just

1675
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:25,080
all seemed again, going back
to the budget that they had. It just.

1676
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:29,080
Everyone was working their A
game. It just looks. It's a great

1677
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:33,930
looking film and that, that
just. That just helps. We've all

1678
01:25:33,930 --> 01:25:38,930
seen low budget films where
one element, the sound, the cinematography

1679
01:25:39,090 --> 01:25:42,290
is off and it just sort of.
And it ruins the whole experience.

1680
01:25:42,290 --> 01:25:46,330
And in this film it's all.
Everyone is working at their A game.

1681
01:25:46,330 --> 01:25:49,290
So tell your friends that,
tell the guys that I. That I just.

1682
01:25:49,290 --> 01:25:53,170
Yeah, thought hire Dan for
your next movie. Oh, tell them that

1683
01:25:53,170 --> 01:25:57,930
too. Tell them I love
Providence and I love. I love Providence.

1684
01:25:57,930 --> 01:26:00,700
I'll go to Providence in a
hobby Heartbeat. It just did. You

1685
01:26:00,700 --> 01:26:04,620
told him yourself. As I
mentioned in the first part of the

1686
01:26:04,620 --> 01:26:05,700
session, one of my favorite.

1687
01:26:05,700 --> 01:26:07,780
Things about this movie was
trying to figure out who in this

1688
01:26:07,780 --> 01:26:10,140
movie played whom in Death Drop.

1689
01:26:10,140 --> 01:26:10,660
Gorgeous.

1690
01:26:10,660 --> 01:26:14,900
And the person who was really
giving me trouble was Eric, the actor

1691
01:26:14,900 --> 01:26:17,340
Matthew Pidge. And the funny
thing is I had a pen.

1692
01:26:17,340 --> 01:26:18,700
Completely wrong character.

1693
01:26:18,700 --> 01:26:21,140
I forget which one it was, but
I had it completely wrong. Until

1694
01:26:21,140 --> 01:26:23,940
all of a sudden we're doing
the scene in the big finale where

1695
01:26:23,940 --> 01:26:28,140
we finally find that Eric is
not a real friend, that he is working.

1696
01:26:28,140 --> 01:26:30,390
With the other side, that he's
100% evil.

1697
01:26:30,390 --> 01:26:30,520
And.

1698
01:26:30,830 --> 01:26:34,310
And it's when Caleb is walking
through the. The orgy scene. And

1699
01:26:34,310 --> 01:26:38,310
he just stumbles upon Eric and
he's splayed out across that couch

1700
01:26:38,310 --> 01:26:42,430
and he just says, oh, you made
it. I went, oh, there she is. That's

1701
01:26:42,430 --> 01:26:47,150
Janet Fitness. Oh, I didn't
know what to be. So long. It was

1702
01:26:47,150 --> 01:26:48,510
Janet all the time.

1703
01:26:48,670 --> 01:26:51,310
Yeah, but the biblical stuff
carries too. Like even the names.

1704
01:26:51,310 --> 01:26:55,590
The main guys like Caleb
Biblical explored. His whole thing

1705
01:26:55,590 --> 01:26:57,750
was he explored the promised
land before Moses got there. And

1706
01:26:57,750 --> 01:27:01,540
he spends the whole movie
exploring the province land. The

1707
01:27:01,540 --> 01:27:07,260
promised land of province.
Sam. Yeah, Isaac, Right. Yes.

1708
01:27:07,340 --> 01:27:09,500
They need to pull Rowan
Morrison with this too, because it

1709
01:27:09,500 --> 01:27:10,220
turns out Isaac's.

1710
01:27:10,220 --> 01:27:13,380
Alive the whole time. He was
never sacrificed on the beach.

1711
01:27:13,380 --> 01:27:16,780
And of course, Isaac in the
Bible is supposed to be sacrificed

1712
01:27:16,780 --> 01:27:19,980
to his God. Right. But he's
saved by a last minute switcheroo.

1713
01:27:20,140 --> 01:27:21,740
And that's exactly what
happens here.

1714
01:27:21,820 --> 01:27:22,300
That's right.

1715
01:27:22,300 --> 01:27:23,540
There's a point where Saint Dro's.

1716
01:27:23,540 --> 01:27:27,550
Like I was telling Caleb, I
know you. I like you. I've watched

1717
01:27:27,550 --> 01:27:27,830
you.

1718
01:27:27,990 --> 01:27:28,470
This is.

1719
01:27:28,470 --> 01:27:30,550
This had been set in motion
for a long time.

1720
01:27:30,630 --> 01:27:31,990
And it kind of feels like was.

1721
01:27:31,990 --> 01:27:35,710
Isaac get to live now? Because
he called in Caleb just like the

1722
01:27:35,710 --> 01:27:39,230
Wicker Man. So. Yeah, it just
makes you feel like this was destined

1723
01:27:39,230 --> 01:27:42,670
to happen. He. Caleb could not
get away from this. From this destiny.

1724
01:27:42,670 --> 01:27:45,950
And that's so sad because he
had no power over this. Like this

1725
01:27:45,950 --> 01:27:48,950
was gonna happen. He was drawn
here. He was tricked to come here.

1726
01:27:49,030 --> 01:27:49,430
Yeah.

1727
01:27:49,430 --> 01:27:50,750
Hold on. I know just the person.

1728
01:27:50,750 --> 01:27:54,620
He's stubborn as a mule. Yeah.
And he wants me. So I'm gonna get

1729
01:27:54,620 --> 01:27:56,900
him to come and he. You won't
have to kill me. You can have him.

1730
01:27:56,900 --> 01:27:58,420
He's much tastier than I am.

1731
01:28:00,020 --> 01:28:00,300
And.

1732
01:28:00,300 --> 01:28:02,700
Oh, boy, do they have him.
They carve that to pieces. It's.

1733
01:28:02,700 --> 01:28:07,539
It's. It's. Oh, my God. And
just the betrayal of Adrian just

1734
01:28:07,539 --> 01:28:12,780
standing there watching. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, he's gone. And that sad

1735
01:28:12,780 --> 01:28:16,380
shot at the end when what's
his face, the antique owner shop,

1736
01:28:16,380 --> 01:28:20,380
is driving off, and we just
see Eric and. And Adrian just walking

1737
01:28:20,380 --> 01:28:23,680
on the side of the road. And
you're just thinking, Adrian's to

1738
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:27,920
be here forever now. Yeah,
he's going to be. Yeah, he's home.

1739
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:30,960
He's home. He's home. Yeah,
he's fine. He's fine. You just got

1740
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:32,960
to get to the winners. You're
one of us now. You're not one of

1741
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:37,240
them. Yeah, I love a down. I
love a downer ending movie. And this

1742
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:41,360
one has a downer ending. Yeah,
well, it depends for who I mean.

1743
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:44,000
Everyone else got happy and
just Caleb, you know, he could have

1744
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,960
stopped again. He could have
stopped it at any time. Yeah.

1745
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:47,920
Yeah.

1746
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:50,410
But he winds up being the
sacrifice and all because he won't

1747
01:28:50,810 --> 01:28:51,210
even.

1748
01:28:51,210 --> 01:28:55,210
Even. Even at the very end. He
had the opportunity. St. Drogo gave

1749
01:28:55,210 --> 01:28:55,610
him the opportunity.

1750
01:28:55,610 --> 01:28:58,850
All you got to do is snort
this. Yeah. Just take. Just p. No

1751
01:28:58,850 --> 01:29:05,010
snort. And we don't have to do
it. No sorry. No. No begging, no

1752
01:29:05,010 --> 01:29:11,570
bargaining. No sorry. We're
down. Good stuff. All right. I had

1753
01:29:11,570 --> 01:29:13,970
to forgive a lot in Death
Drop. Gorgeous.

1754
01:29:13,970 --> 01:29:14,850
But I also know it was their.

1755
01:29:14,850 --> 01:29:18,110
First film, and it feels like
a first film, and they was. That

1756
01:29:18,110 --> 01:29:21,030
was an incredibly ambitious
film. Yeah. The amount of crowds.

1757
01:29:21,030 --> 01:29:23,190
Because you know how hard it
is to shoot a crowd scene, you know.

1758
01:29:23,350 --> 01:29:24,870
You know, hardest to shoot a dancing.

1759
01:29:24,870 --> 01:29:26,470
Scene, like a club scene.

1760
01:29:26,950 --> 01:29:29,910
The long nights are expensive,
but it's hard to do. And they're

1761
01:29:29,910 --> 01:29:32,190
in. They were in a major city.
I mean, Providence, Rhode island,

1762
01:29:32,190 --> 01:29:35,190
is a small city, but it's
still a city. Yeah. Right. And so

1763
01:29:35,190 --> 01:29:38,510
corralling all that stuff.
Yeah. So many moving parts of that

1764
01:29:38,510 --> 01:29:38,790
story.

1765
01:29:38,790 --> 01:29:40,230
So many locations and so many.

1766
01:29:40,630 --> 01:29:43,910
There is so much that was so
ambitious. So some of the things

1767
01:29:43,990 --> 01:29:46,950
aren't great. And I let that
slide. Said, okay, that's fine, I'll

1768
01:29:46,950 --> 01:29:47,230
let it go.

1769
01:29:47,230 --> 01:29:48,780
It's not a big deal. Because
ultimately, at the end of the.

1770
01:29:48,850 --> 01:29:50,850
Day, it would turn out to be a
great film. And I. At the end, I

1771
01:29:50,850 --> 01:29:53,490
was shocked and surprised and
said I didn't not expect to be here

1772
01:29:53,970 --> 01:29:54,850
when this is over.

1773
01:29:55,170 --> 01:29:56,250
But this. You're right.

1774
01:29:56,250 --> 01:30:02,730
You don't. It doesn't feel low
budget. No, I. And I've heard people,

1775
01:30:02,730 --> 01:30:06,610
some people criticize the
acting. I say they. Everybody feels

1776
01:30:06,610 --> 01:30:07,890
so organic with each other.

1777
01:30:08,850 --> 01:30:10,210
It doesn't feel like acting.

1778
01:30:10,290 --> 01:30:13,090
Which is fine to me. Yeah. I
mean, these guys know each other.

1779
01:30:13,090 --> 01:30:16,170
They're friends, they.
They're. They work together for a

1780
01:30:16,170 --> 01:30:19,050
while. It seems like in real
life they know each other. The chemistry

1781
01:30:19,050 --> 01:30:22,080
is already there. They have a
comfortableness on screen. Listen,

1782
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:24,880
I could quibble a little bit
about some of the acting. Yeah, of

1783
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:28,240
course. But after, you know,
because I'm an actor myself and I'm

1784
01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:30,760
going to be super critical of
other actors. That always happens.

1785
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:34,560
Yeah. But I feel like this
movie wrapped me in its. In its mood

1786
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:38,160
and atmosphere, and I just
forgave a lot of that stuff. A lot

1787
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:44,360
of that stuff just went away.
So I didn't. Yeah. In the end. In

1788
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:48,250
the end, I bought it it all.
And thank you for introducing this

1789
01:30:48,250 --> 01:30:50,730
film to me and These
filmmakers, because I now they will

1790
01:30:50,730 --> 01:30:53,810
be on my radar. You're
welcome. You're welcome. Yeah.

1791
01:30:54,050 --> 01:30:56,450
And you're welcome, boys. He's
amazing. He's amazing.

1792
01:30:56,450 --> 01:30:59,490
Cast him in something, please.
Cast him in things.

1793
01:30:59,490 --> 01:31:00,170
I've directed him.

1794
01:31:00,170 --> 01:31:04,730
He's amazing. Oh, my God. You
did. That's right, I did. Wow. Yeah,

1795
01:31:04,730 --> 01:31:07,690
we won a prize. Thank you very
much. See me in action. Audition

1796
01:31:07,690 --> 01:31:08,050
me.

1797
01:31:08,130 --> 01:31:09,850
And then I said, all right.
Thank you, Dan, for joining me.

1798
01:31:09,850 --> 01:31:12,890
This is very good to hang out
out again. It was so nice to see

1799
01:31:12,890 --> 01:31:16,130
you, Patrick. Thank you for
the invite and especially for this

1800
01:31:16,130 --> 01:31:20,610
movie. For. For introducing me
to. To these guys. The second I saw

1801
01:31:20,610 --> 01:31:24,050
it when. When at the. On the
film festival, Circus said, this

1802
01:31:24,050 --> 01:31:27,010
is one for down. This is this.
And I was not gonna have anybody

1803
01:31:27,010 --> 01:31:30,170
else. We had such trouble. We
had such trouble booking this. So

1804
01:31:30,170 --> 01:31:32,610
many things happened. So many
things happened to keep this from

1805
01:31:32,610 --> 01:31:35,490
happening, but it finally
happened. I'm happy. What did I want

1806
01:31:35,490 --> 01:31:39,770
to say? Oh, I also also want
to get you back on the plane back

1807
01:31:39,770 --> 01:31:43,730
to the. Back on the what? The
plane back to the 70s. Oh, okay.

1808
01:31:44,290 --> 01:31:47,170
Those episodes where I talk
about 70s movies are now going to

1809
01:31:47,170 --> 01:31:56,570
be their own podcast. Okay.
And I finally saw Bad Ronald and

1810
01:31:56,570 --> 01:32:00,450
I said, this is a Dan to make
us movie. I've never seen it, Dan.

1811
01:32:00,450 --> 01:32:03,880
It's got that one, but two
Aislebacher sisters in it. Oh, my.

1812
01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:09,160
Lisa and another Aislebacher
playing sisters. It's really good.

1813
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:12,120
Oh, my gosh. You know how much
I like Lisa Eilbacher. I thought

1814
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:12,680
that's what I said.

1815
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:13,960
Listen, it's got two a.

1816
01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:19,600
From the same one is Bad
Ronald. The one with the. Who's the

1817
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:20,040
actor?

1818
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:20,320
Was.

1819
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:25,000
It was also brothers. They
were in a lot of 70s and 80s. No.

1820
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:27,600
Am I wrong? I'm thinking of
somebody else. There might have been.

1821
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:29,800
There was a lot of. There was
a big family that moves in this house

1822
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:32,360
with lots of kid actors in it.
I don't know. Possibly. But no, it

1823
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:36,680
was the wall. The one wall
person. Okay. The walls. Yeah. All

1824
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:39,640
right. Yeah. I've never seen
it. I have.

1825
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:40,000
I have.

1826
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:42,600
We'll have to fix that down
the road. All right. Okay. After

1827
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:44,680
you're done with your thing at
the public and after you do. But

1828
01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:45,280
before you.

1829
01:32:45,440 --> 01:32:46,560
After you do the thing at the.

1830
01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:50,040
Public, but after you do their
next movie. All right. Somewhere

1831
01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:52,640
in there, we'll do a Bad
Ronald episode. All right. Thank

1832
01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:54,360
you, Dan. All right, we're
going to wrap this.

1833
01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:59,240
Up and also want to say a
reminder to you to please buy St.

1834
01:32:59,240 --> 01:33:00,640
Drogo on Blu Ray.

1835
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:03,220
The information is down in the
show. Show notes head on over to

1836
01:33:03,220 --> 01:33:07,580
monster makeup llc.com. It's
$25. It's totally worth it.

1837
01:33:07,580 --> 01:33:08,820
You've heard the whole movie.

1838
01:33:08,820 --> 01:33:11,460
Now, if we haven't convinced
you, I don't know what else we could

1839
01:33:11,460 --> 01:33:12,020
possibly do.

1840
01:33:12,020 --> 01:33:16,020
If you want an original story that's.

1841
01:33:16,020 --> 01:33:19,140
Beautifully shot, that's going
to get under your skin and make it

1842
01:33:19,140 --> 01:33:21,540
crawl, then you've got one
right here. What are you waiting

1843
01:33:21,540 --> 01:33:24,460
for? Who knows if it will ever
make streaming? People need to know

1844
01:33:24,460 --> 01:33:28,340
about this little mini
masterpiece, and you need to see

1845
01:33:28,340 --> 01:33:28,580
it.

1846
01:33:28,580 --> 01:33:29,260
So go do that.

1847
01:33:29,260 --> 01:33:32,140
I'm not going to say it again.
Everybody stay safe. Stay healthy.

1848
01:33:32,140 --> 01:33:33,100
I'll see you next time.

1849
01:33:33,100 --> 01:33:36,240
I'll see you on Damian Lewis
or maybe in a plane on a cave from

1850
01:33:36,240 --> 01:33:37,680
the 70s. Or maybe I'll see you
the next.

1851
01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:42,440
Time I resurrect myself from
the dead on ScreamQueenz.

1852
01:33:51,480 --> 01:33:54,920
All of the music for tonight's
show, unless otherwise specified,

1853
01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:59,850
has been written by Sam
Haynes. You can find find all of

1854
01:33:59,850 --> 01:34:04,850
his music@www.bandcamp.com.

1855
01:34:25,020 --> 01:34:25,260
Sa.