I'm back, bitches. Well, well, well. Hello again, my beautiful screamers,
and welcome to the very first episode of ScreamQueenz Reborn. This
is episode one, and tonight we. We're going to talk about a movie
that's so damn good, I came back from the dead for it. And that
movie is Saint Drogo by those crazy boys over at Monster Makeup.
The same folks who brought you Death Drop Gorgeous are back with
a bit of queer folk horror that's so frightening it'll make
your hair stand on it, and it might even give you a boner. And
in order to make this occasion truly momentous, I am joined by fabulous
world famous actor Dan Domingues. But before we do any of
that, please allow me to reintroduce myself and hello, my
name is Patrick Walsh, and once upon a time I was the host of
ScreamQueenz, the podcast where horror gets gay. But I retired.
I was there for 17 years. But now I'm back for one night only.
One night only. That's all you're going to get. Because I warned
you, when a movie came along that was so damn good, I absolutely
had to talk about it, I would rise from the dead, and here I am.
So now you got to deal with me. Yeah, but Patrick, what's been
going on at ScreamQueenz headquarters since last July when
you left us? First of all, I didn't leave you. I just.
Never.
Behindmind. We're not getting into that. Aside from the world outside
going to hell, things at ScreamQueenz headquarters have been
surprisingly good. Retiring the show was the best move I could
have made. I feel so much better than I did then without the
constant stress of having to put out a show every week. The Brain
Fog. I couldn't tell you the last time I've had a brain fog incident.
And because I found that the best weapon against that brain fog
was going to the gym every single day, I become a huge gym bunny
and a Zumba queen. Not only is my brain working more clearly, I'm
also looking, as the kids would say, snatched. Win, Win. Damn
you. Uncle Lewis is up and running publicly now, which is awesome.
It came in the 70s, about to start running again, and about to
start doing interviews for our upcoming new show, behind the Screamz,
where I talk to queer horror filmmakers about what's going on.
I'm interviewing Roger Connors next month to talk about his gay
slasher movie, Meet. So things are going well on that front. So
yay to better health and yay to happier workspaces. But here's
the ironic thing. You know how I've said on the old ScreamQueenz,
I used to say many, many times that one of my favorite horror tropes
is a house full of rich, eccentric cunts that all secretly
hate each other. Being stuck in a house waiting for. A will to
be read, and they. Kill each other off one by one. Well, I'm stuck
in that scenario for real right now because as many of you
know, my dad passed away in January, and that was very sad. But
the whole thing with his will has been dragging on for a really
long time now. And I'm seeing the truly ugly side of my family
members. And I wasn't in a good space with them anyway. But
not to see them as all as money hungry, grubby, icky people.
It's just been a real eye opener. And let's just say the trope
is not so much fun when you're living it. But hopefully that will
be over soon. But pretty much that's all I got is secret ninja
boots is here. She says I'm fabulous, but that's classified.
Don't tell anybody. But most of all, I'm happy to be sitting here
with you right here, right now. Because I've said this before.
I'll probably say 15 times more in this episode. I waited for
so long for Saint Drogo to get released. I kept ScreamQueenz running
for months longer than I should have going, maybe they'll
release it this month. Maybe the release this because I needed
to talk about it with you, because this movie, so damn good.
But it's finally happening now. But here's the trick, kids.
As you know, I can't talk about a movie without spoiling it.
Not the way I need to talk about it. Because the movie, this
movie's got a lot going on in the best way possible. There's layers
and layers upon layers of things going on. Stuff that's on
the surface, it's the way deep into beneath the surface. And that's
what makes it so damn good. But in order to do that, I'm gonna
have to spoil it. But the problem is, everybody, it's not a
problem. It's a chance. It's not a hurt. It's not a challenge.
It's a hurdle. It's not a hurdle. It's an obstacle. It's. It's
a thing. Here's the thing, kids. It's not streaming anywhere.
The folks over at Monster Makeup LLC decided to release the
movie independently rather than go to the usual avenues. So
right now, it's only available on Blu Ray for purchase at monstermakeupllc.com
for the low, low price of just $25. And when I tell you that this
movie is worth every penny, I mean it from the bottom. Not affiliated
with Monster Makeup in any way, shape or form. And they are
not giving me any money to hype up this film. This is me hyping
up this film for you. This is how excited I am about this movie
for you. I came back from the dead because I needed to tell you
about how great this movie is and to get more eyes on it. So I
am imploring you, support independent horror and go buy Saint
Drogo on Blu Ray right now. I put the link right down there in
the show notes. You have no excuses. I know you're excited to
hear me, but by all means, if you can wait a little bit longer,
get that Blu Ray for us, because you will not be disappointed.
It's scary as hell. It's sexy as hell, it's freaky as hell. And
it's gay, gay, gay, gay, gay, gay, gay. But here's the thing, kids.
I know times are tough. I know things are hard. I know blind buys
are a hard thing to do. You gotta feel it or you don't. I still
am giving you an out in this episode. Dan and I are going to talk
all the way up to the finale of Saint Drogo. And then we're going
to stop and we're going to say, hey, this would be a good time.
If you don't want to find out the secret of Saint Drogo, you need
to stop listening right about now. And we're going to wrap up the
show. And if you dare to go beyond that point, we will discuss
the ending of the film. Because, oh, my gosh, the end of
the film has to be discussed in some way, shape or form. So if
you don't want that ruined, you can either buy the DVD or not
listen to the end of the show. The choice is yours. But you got
to make the choice right now, because it's time for me to start
the show. Bring on Dan Domingues and play the trailer for
Saint Drogo. Hallelujah. He is risen.
Got a package.
Hey, it's Caleb. Had this really bizarre dream about you the
other night. Let's get away for a few days.
Can I help you boys with something?
I really don't want to spend this entire trip looking for your
ex.
I'm looking for a friend of mine.
There's no use searching for him now.
Wait, what?
What if we file the missing persons or something?
Addicts Go missing all the time. They go camping in the dunes.
Their bodies show up in the spring.
Since we've gotten here, I fell off.
You're leaving out of bed at five in the morning because of some
dream you had?
You're scared.
What is it about this place?
Boys come, they get caught in the tide
You are more than welcome here. After all, this is a. A party.
Leave, leave alone.
I'm not gonna go without you.
Hail Saint Srogo Hail Saint Drogo
When ScreamQueenz podcast Where Horror Get Gay was wrapping
up, I had a short list of films that were still on the festival
circuit that I was really holding out. I said, please, please
get released before I have to retire so I can cover you. And they
didn't, those bastards, not a single one of them. But one of the
stipulations I said to myself when I retired from ScreamQueenz
Because I said, when these movies get. Released, I am going
to bring the show back and I will cover them. I will bring ScreamQueenz
back from the dead. And here I am arisen for you tonight. Because
tonight's movie, Saint Drogo, is one of those films. And since
it's a very special film and it's not your average queer horror
film, I needed somebody who really understands the film business.
And who better? Who better been everybody's favorite dimple
leading man, the fabulous Dan Domingues. Dan Domingues, welcome
back to Scream. Please welcome back to ScreamQueenzReborn.
Thank you. Patrick, you look. Your reborn self looks gorgeous.
Well, I still got all my own. Placenta all over my face.
Keep it, keep it. Find some more placentas, keep spreading it,
because we are pulling you out of retirement to. For. Yeah. Thank
you so much for having me. It's a thrill to see you. It's a
thrill to be here and a thrill to be able to talk about this film.
Dan Domingues, it has been a long time since you've been here.
What have you been up to? Where have you been?
I have been all over the place. I have moved out of New York
City. I am living in New Jersey. My life has taken so many
different turns. I have been traveling for work a lot. I have
a new person in my life. And yeah, there's just been, you know,
I went through a breakup three years ago and it sort of upended
my life. But I'm, you know, and I was together with this person
for 21 years. And so as you can imagine, it took a long time
to sort of get back on my feet. But, but, but here I am. Here
I am, here you are.
You're still standing still. Just like Elaine Stretch, you're
still here. God bless you. Very glad to have you back.
Thank you.
You have not been here since Devil Dog, the Hound of Hell. And
that was a thousand years ago.
It was. Yeah, yeah.
All right, so.
Damn.
You know what? It still screamed Queens. Even though we're
back from the dead,. The traditions still stand. Dan Domingues,
I need you to make up for the lost time that you were not here
and give me a nice, tight 30 second plot summary of the film.
Saint Drogo. The clock starts now.
Caleb and Adrian are a couple who are experiencing some problems.
They're both having this terrifying nightmare of Caleb's ex
dying violently on a beach in P Town. So they decide to take a
vacation to P Town, both to rekindle their relationship, but
also to track down what happened to Caleb's ex. Because he's
there. He sent a message that he's staying for the entire season.
And so they show up in P Town. It's bleak, it's cold, it's winter.
And there are. And secrets abound. So they're trying to discover
the truth and they find some things that maybe they didn't want
to.
Yes. Curiosity kills the cats.
Oh, my gosh. It kills a lot of things.
Things? These cats are dead.
Well, no, not a lot of things. There's not a big body count in this
movie we should see.
No, there's not.
But the people who are dead are.
Really, really, really dead.
They're really dead.
I would say for my shady 30 second summary, Wicker Man. But everybody's
gay.
That's a good one. Everybody is gay. Everyone in this. Well, it's
in P Town, so everyone is going. Is bound to be gay. Yeah,
that's a good one. The Wicker Wicker man immediately sprung to
mind as I was watching this.
percentfolkhorror100 perecent.It's. It's spitting its
own mythology, which is fun. Which is always nice when you see.
When you come across something that's truly original like this.
Yeah, it's a little bit Wicker Man. It's a little bit Lovecraftian.
A little bit like shadow over Innismeth.
Yeah, Dagon.
Dagon and I. I've said on the show before, like when I covered
the fog and when we covered Dead & Buried I love a movie about
a coastal town with a dirty little secret.
One of my favorite things hits hit. My G. Well, should I say hits
my G spot. It hits my.
You already said it. It's already. It's already Been hit. It's
been hit. 10. It's been hit.
It hits my movie G spot. I love a movie set in not in. Not just
a seaside town, but somewhere isolated, somewhere cold. Right.
Not a lot of people around. There's a. There was a movie from
a couple of years ago called Off Season. I'm not sure if you've
seen that. I think it's on shudder, but has that sort of same
vibe. Yeah. I love the mood, the atmosphere in a place like that.
It's like, ripe for horror and suspense.
And just to double down on what you were saying. And it's not
just that it's an isolated, deserted, creepy town. It's not always
during the summer. It's a Mecca. It's paradise. It's gay heaven.
Yeah.
But not now. Not now. No, not now. One of the things I love about
it is that I mentioned that these are the same folks who did
Death Job. Gorgeous. This movie looks, feels, sounds, acts,
runs. Nothing like that Job or you would never think it was the
same people. No.
No.
Who made the film.
The two tones are completely different. The filmmaking, cinematography.
I would even go as far as saying, obviously the performances
are. It's a completely different sort of approach and style.
Yeah. If you saw these. If you. If you saw these siloed, you
wouldn't probably be able to tell that it was the same filmmakers.
Yeah. The added plus is if you see both movies, watch this one and
try to figure out who's who of drag.
Yeah. These filmmakers are creating their repertoire of actors.
Right.
They've got their stable when they're on the show. I joked. I imagine
I've always pictured ABBA and the Human League. ABBA and the Human
League. I kind of always pictured them all sleeping in the
same bed like the grandparents from Charlie and the Chocolate factoy
I kind of picture everybody from this company do the same thing.
Because they all know each other.
They all. They all do everything. Yeah. Like, if he knows.
Everybody wrote this. Everybody directed. The people who
wrote and directed are acting in it. So everybody's doing everything.
Three directors. I didn't realize that until after I watched.
Watched it, that three people directed this movie. First of all,
how does that happen? How do you do that on a set? And then second
of all, watching this movie, it seems so consistent. You wouldn't
imagine that three people directed this. It seems like one
person's vision. So they must know each other. I mean, you met
them. They must like Simpatico. They must know each other
really well.
Yes. That's why I pictured the Whole big bed. They're way too simpatico.
They're beyond simpatico. There's some like that happens in
this movie too.
We'll talk about it.
You know what?
There's a lot of people to get to simpatico Yeah. Okay. But yeah,
the writers and the directors are also the main actors. So Adrian,
Caleb and also the boss from the first segment of the film. All
right. I don't want to go plot by plot point, but sure. Dan, Walk
me through the cold open. Walk me through this opening scene. Drop
me into the world of Saint Drogo.
Well, the movie, the movie starts really strong. It drops us
into what we discover is a nightmare. One of the characters
is having a nightmare or is it? Well, yeah, we don't know. It's
a scene that will also replicate itself later, but it's
a guy on a beach and there's a guy on a beach and then there's a
guy in a cloak and the guy on the beach dies violently. Self inflicted
wound dies violently. And then, you know, we are at their,
you know, we're in their bedroom when we realize that it's
a dream. So it's a pretty strong opening. Very strong opening.
And I do love a strong opening. No, but no, 100%.
Once the movie started, I'm like, we are not in the club scene
from the last move. We are not in a happy place. We are not in it.
This, this is not gonna be camp. This is totally different.
Even the atonal music. Yeah, just the open, that long opening
shot of just this glaring winter sun blinding you is. Is incredible.
And then this guy, he's gutting himself.
Long, long loving shot of this guy cutting himself and just letting
everything flop. With this creepy figure just standing behind.
Him and watching you put a guy in a hooded. What do you call that?
Like a hooded shroud or whatever it is immediately creepy.
Right? And then what is it called when someone cuts their guts
out? Is that. Is that self immolation or is what. It's disembowelment.
Disembowelment, yes. Self immolation is setting yourself on
fire. And we should say the special effects, the disembowelment.
Really good. Really good. Very convincing. Very gross. So very upset.
Very.
And broad daylight.
Broad daylight. Daylight. So there's nowhere to hide for these
either. So it's a very strong opening. You have my attention.
Yeah, absolutely. On a beach, a place that is usually a, you know,
a fun place, a place of safety, A place where getting sun
and they give us this really graphic image. Yeah. What I love
too is that this scene is so upsetting. I. I screened it for my
movie folks here that we lost people immediately. Some people,
like, you know what? This is not for me. I'm out.
I'm out. Because they're expect. Wait, I'm out! Because they
expect the whole movie is going to be like this. I can't do
this. The whole movie's not like that. But the threat of that
hangs over the whole movie. This feeling of dread like that could
happen at any moment.
Yeah, yeah.
Anytime . This is what we can do.
You knew there's another shoe, right?
When are we going to do it?
Will we come?
We're going to do it. Yeah. Yeah. So you wait. You spend the
whole movie waiting for the other shoe to drop. And when it does,
it drops on. So tell me about Caleb and Adrian. Tell me about them.
Tell me about the boys.
Well, visually, the film gives us their relationship right at the
beginning. Right? Like we see them lying in bed, but they're completely
separate. They're not touching, they're not spooning, they're
not cuddling. They're not even draping one arm over each other.
And so visually, without any, any dialogue, we get an immediate
sense of where their relationship is at.
Actually, Dan, I'm gonna have to correct you here because the first
time we see Caleb and Adrian is in a framed photo. Not when they're
in the bed. The very first time we see them, they're in. It's
a framed photo of them. They're smiling, they're happy, they're
embracing. The sun is shining. It's the perfect photo of the perfect
couple. And then, smash. We cut to them in the bed in real time.
They're facing away from each other in the dark with like a foot
of space between them. It's completely opposite of what we just.
Saw in the photo. It's like, this is where we were, but this is
where we are. This is the fantasy we put out. To the world,
but this is the actual reality. And I know, okay, it seems
like. A minor point, but for me it's. An example of the excellent
use of non verbal storytelling that we get constantly throughout
the film. Throughout the whole movie. Dialogue is used sparsely
and it's used well. And they're able to pull it off because
so much is being told without words. Moments like this, because
we learn everything about these two as a couple in a matter
of seconds without a word being spoken. And I think that's
really neat. Please continue, Dan. Tell me more about Caleb and
Adrian.
They're distant, they're not connecting. They're both in a way,
you know, financially a little bit unstable. Their jobs, you know.
I think Adrian has just started a new job after being unemployed
for a long time. Caleb is a tattoo artist, I believe, but is.
Yeah, I think so. I'm not sure it was that.
It wasn't totally clear.
It wasn't super clear, but that's the. Same impression I got.
So I guess there must be visual storytelling that told us
that this movie's very good at the visual story, the non verbal
storytelling.
It's great. Yeah. I mean he's drawing on a pad, he's drawing pictures
and then he's covered in tattoos. So I thought he was a tattoo
artist. And he's like putting clients off, rescheduling clients.
So the two of them, they're just not connecting. And we get a
lot of visual cues to that, which is really smart filmmaking.
Like you don't. We don't have to have all the friggin dialogue
about. I'm mad at you, I'm pissed at you. It's. Yeah, it's great.
What are you doing?
Having a beer.
Yeah, I see that. We have dinner plans. Remember we reminded
you yesterday. Oh my God.
Can you just go without me?
I'm not gonna go without you. We've postponed this dinner date
for like months now.
Well, maybe they should take a hint.
Can you please just come, Adrian?
Honestly, I'm pretty beat.
You're pretty beat?
Must be real taxing doodling on a sketch pad in your underwear.
One of the things that appreciate that. I appreciate about
both films and I have Dan to watch Death Drop Gorgeous as well,
so. And he didn't finish the whole thing because he wasn't feeling
well and that's okay. But one of the things that the strongest
things about both of these films for me is that how unapologetically
gay they are. Yeah, I watch enough queer horror films and you
know, queer films in general,. There always seems to be this sense.
That we're look how normal we are. There always seems to be like
many. Of them try to appease a straight audience, try to make the
Straits feel comfortable, but neither one of these movies do that.
They drop you into these situations and just say no, it's
gay. Deal with it. Right? This couple, they're going to have a threesome
with a stranger they just picked up and they're going to do
drugs. And it's not going to be a. Big deal because that's how
it is in our community. If you have a Problem with it. Other movies
would make. They have to fight about it a long time and it would
ruin their relationship later on. No, we're just going to drop
this in. It happens because it happens. Yeah. Warts and all approach
to gay community, which I. Which I appreciated.
Yeah. I. I thought in Death Drop, gorgeous as. As insanely over
the top. It is the way they dealt with, you know, online culture,
how people connect on the apps. I mean, ageism. Yeah, ageism.
A lot of that rang true to me. And so these guys know what they're
talking about and. Yeah, I just loved. I loved in this film
how the relationship is just treated as any other relationship,
but that we also get to see the issues that plague spec. Gay
relationships.
I love. Yeah. Sorry.
No, no, no, it's. Yeah, I think you're totally right.
I love that they're not the perfect couple. They're not perfect.
They're problematic from the beginning, but we don't hate them
for it either. We don't hate either one of them. We see both of
them are problems, but we don't. We don't turn on them.
Right.
I mean, we. We kind of, as the movie goes on because someone's very,
very stubborn. But that's the way things. This is. Yeah. Yeah.
Things got to play out.
Yeah.
I also like that these two guys would not be played by these
two guys in most other gay films. It'd be skinny, hairless dudes.
I loved these two guys. I thought they were so cute.
Aren't they great? Aren't they great? Hi, Brandon. Hi, Mikey.
They're so you can please let them know. I thought they were so
handsome. I mean, but you're right, they're handsome, but they're
relatable. And they are. I don't know. I also bought these two
as a couple, right?
Yeah.
Like, what, have they been together a year? I think it says
in the film. I think they say in the film or something like that,
but I'm not sure. But I totally bought them as a couple.
Couple. But I thought they were cute as buttons.
100%.
Yeah.
Yeah. I just want these crazy kids to make it. I.
Come on.
one of the things I enjoy too
On the second watch, what the movie is hinging on is this whole
nightmare that Caleb wakes up for.
Actually. Turns out they both have the same nightmare, right? Yeah,
yeah, both of them have the same nightmare. Oh, just for clarification,
the nightmare that they're both having is the scene that we
saw at the beginning with the man gutting himself ritualistically
on the Beach. And it's only now that we're learning just who
that man is. Or was. Whatever. Please continue.
You okay?
Yeah, I'm fine. I'm just having this really weird dream in
P town, actually. Or maybe I'm just thinking about P town because
you mentioned it earlier.
Well, what happens in the dream?
I don't really remember. Some of the details are kind of fuzzy
now, but Isaac is there.
And.
Is he on a beach?
Yeah. How did you know that?
I think we might be having the same dream. No, no, honestly, hear
me out. Isaac's on a beach. He's digging through some seaweed.
This is a guy in a cloak.
I don't know.
I'm kind of worried about him.
Caleb, it was a dream. He's fine.
I haven't heard from him in a month. He's not responding to any
of my texts.
Didn't he just send you a photo of himself?
He said he was staying in P town through the off season.
Is this why you wanted to go to P Town? Because Isaac is having
too much fun to respond to your texts?
When I brought up P Town, I didn't have Isaac in mind. Okay,
but don't you think it's a little weird that we're having the
same dream?
Okay, yes, it's weird. We had similar dreams. You're a sucker for
this shit, Caleb. You think everything is a sign.
Okay, but what happens in your dream?
I told you. Don't remember. You can go back to your fantasy about
Isaac and go take a Valium.
Who's the guy in the dream?
The guy in the dream is Caleb's ex, right? Yeah. What is
his name? I forgot the character's name already.
Isaac.
Isaac, Right, right.
Yeah. And coincidentally that morning, Caleb receives a package
in the mail from Isaac. Dried up roses and a picture. And that's
it?
Yeah.
So now he's got Isaac on the brain and he's realizing that he
hasn't seen Isaac in a long time. I haven't spoken to Isaac.
I don't know where he is or. Or how he is. And now this package
is cryptic.
There's no note.
What the fuck does it mean? And on top of it, now I'm dreaming
of Isaac killing himself. I need to get in touch with Isaac now.
Hey, it's Caleb. I got your picture and flowers in the mail today.
Next time just send a postcard. You're weird. Know. Anyways,
I haven't heard from you in a while and had this really bizarre
dream about you the other night and just wanted to check in
and what's this about you staying in P Town over the winter?
Yeah, give me a call when you get this. I hope you're okay. Bye.
Let's go to P Town and see what's up. So everything's revolving
around this trip to P Town. What's P Town?
Oh, Provincetown, Massachusetts. It's like. It's a
resort town that in the summer explodes well, in many ways.
Internally and externally.
It is a gay mecca. A lot of gay men go and live in P Town. I've
been to P Town several times. But it should also be said that when
I've been there, a lot of families are there, a lot of people
from Boston, a lot of people from other cities in Massachusetts.
So it is. It is a resorty family, but also very, very gay.
You know, it's like. It's like Fire island, just a little bit more
diverse, I would say.
It's. It's definitely a queer, queer run economy.
Yes.
That. That's where. That's where the money's coming from. Without
the gay community making it a resort. Yeah. The other people wouldn't
be there, but anyway. But what was fun to watch on a second time.
I'd forgotten, like, when the movie was over the first time. I'm
shocked by the whole ending, the whole story and everything. I've
forgotten the stuff that happens before they go on the trip.
I loved all the setup stuff. Yeah. Where do you get to meet the
sets of Friends? The shitty gay friend. Like I was saying, it
was gorgeous.
We've already booked again for next year.
Extended our stay too.
We'll be gone most of July.
That is so awesome.
You both went away this summer too, right?
Nope.
Yeah, I got hired at the beginning of the summer, so unfortunately
I couldn't take any time off.
Oh, that's right. How is it not being on fun employment anymore?
Well, Adrian's paying right now.
It's really great. I love my new job. I seriously couldn't be
happier.
Well, there's always next year. .
The other thing that I think is Great about this movie, that it's
an hour and 20 minutes and nothing is filler. No, very little
filler in this. It's. It's very streamlined. It's really well
paced. We get hints in the beginning that, you know, Adrian
is flirting with. Is it. Is it his boss, a co worker? Yes, that's.
It's his boss, Ryan Miller, who's the other writer. Director.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And again, they make a cute couple too. Oh,
my gosh. I would be very happy to watch the make out for a while,
but we don't get to see that. But it's fine. Whatever we got planned
the sequel. It was fun to revisit all this. Stuff with the
shitty gay friends because. It turns out all the dialogue is important.
It all is echoing stuff that will come up and be important later.
Ye ah,it's all. It's all great stuff.
There's no wasted. Yeah. There's no excess. There's no, like.
Like you said, there's no filler. They've trimmed the fat off
this story so that it's. It's both. It's both complex and simple
at the same time. And. And what they're saying are things I've
said in relationships. Right. It just seems very, very. It all
seems very grounded and very real.
What, do you hang out with those guys?
I don't know. We've been friends since college. They're really
not that bad.
Adrian, they're so fucking basic. They bragged about their vacation
for, like, over 30 minutes.
Well, I'm sorry. All my friends aren't artistic prodigies.
All my friends aren't artists.
Seriously, the number of pretentious art openings you brought
me to, all those ambient noise rock shows, and I never say a peep,
but the moment I ask. You to accompany me to dinner with. My friends,
it always has to be a production.
Where is this coming from?
Did you really have to bring up the rent thing?
What do you mean?
I mean, in front of them. Did you have to tell them that,.
Oh, my God, who cares?
And then blaming me for us not going on vacation.
Well, I mean, that is kind of your fault.
I know. I know. It's my fault all the time. I'm sorry.
Yeah, they do. They do say the word fuck a alot.They. There's a
lot of fucks In this movie.
It's not a. It's not a Rob Zombie level of fucks But is high
on the fuckometer
There is a high level of. Of. Of adding the word fuck in the middle
of. In Of. Of sentences.
I'm very sensitive. I. I'm not offended by it, but when words get
repeated a lot, I do want to say "buy a thesarus". It didn't strike
me, or maybe getting jaded, but like, rob. Rob Zombie. I want
to buy us the stars. But come on, Come on. Do better. Do better.
Anyway, in any other. In any other, like, in it, like a Rob Zombie
movie, you're like, that's lazy writing. Why. Why do you have
to add so many in this one? I noticed it, but also the emotions
are High in this, in this film. Like, so I buy it. I buy it.
Yeah. And, and crazy happens. So. Yeah. And the reason I, I, I
say it's got a Wicker man vibe is that that Caleb's drive to find
his ex, somebody describes it as. It's like you're a hound who's
got the scent.
Look, once we get this car fixed, we're going back to the city,
okay? I'm over this.
Adrian, Listen, since we've gotten here, I fell off like the
second we rolled into town. It's feel like there's this awful
thing just hovering around me and I can't get rid of it.
You're like a hound with a scent.
He can't not look for his ex. He keeps promising. Adrian, no, no,
no, no, no. We're not gonna do this all weekend. We're gonna do
this all weekend. This is all we're gonna do. He doesn't even try.
That's all he talks about. All they do. And pro agent just like,
we gotta go out to dinner. We're gonna do anything. What about
me?
Yeah, what about me?
This really got me angry because this whole time we're hearing,
oh, no, no, this trip's gonna be great. We're gonna have time to
just reconnect. We're gonna do all these fun things. We're gonna
relax. But literally the first thing Caleb does when they get in
the hotel room is call isaac. Like, no cuddling, no hey, you want
to go for lunch? Nothing. The door closes, he puts his bag down,
Bang. He's on the phone with his ex. Men.
And also, like, Caleb, I'm sure, planned this entire trip. It's
not just a coincidence that they're going to P Town, right? Who
goes to P Town in the winter? So, so there's that uncomfortableness
about an ex and what that means on a relationship. And so a
lot of that's in this film as well. I thought that was really.
And also, like, we learned, we learned from the shitty friends that,
that, that it just an ex. Isaac proposed?
Yeah, to Caleb.
Like, this was going to be serious. And Caleb was like, man,
there's a whole thing. Caleb can't. They can't commit. He just
wants it all.
Oh, that's a good question. Did you think Isaac proposed? Because
I thought Adrian was the one that proposed. I thought Isaac proposed.
Interesting. Okay. All right. I thought Adrian proposed and, and
Caleb either put it off or did not accept. And so that's also caused
a little bit of a rift. But you think Isaac. I'm gonna have to
watch again and see and see. I'm not sure now. Yeah, I'm not sure
either. Either does work. Yeah, either works. Both outcome
is shitty.
Ding Dong Patrick from the future here. Dan was right. It was
Adrian who proposed to Caleb, not Isaac. Before we get to leave
on the. Trip, we meet a second set of shitty, shitty friends. But
this time it's Caleb shitty friends who have some really, really
shitty things to say about Adrian.
So do you guys not like Adrian?
No, no, Adrian's cool. I just. I just don't think I would have.
Picked you for someone like him.
Yeah, well, he's no Isaac, but that's Not what I was getting at.
So what are you so surprised about?
Caleb? Come on, he proposed to you a Year ago and you turned him
down.
No, I didn't. I just told him not right now. Adrian knows where
I stand.
Exactly. And none of this is any of our business.
He has been moping around for a. Full year like some sad puppy,
all. Waiting for your word. One of these days someone is just.
Going to uppercut you.
Yeah. So he's very much like Inspector Howie.
Yeah. Sergeant Howe in the Wicker Man. He keeps getting opportunities.
People keep saying, you know, you can leave at any time. You don't
need to keep doing this, you can go. He keeps having the door
shown him and he. He will not stand stop on this quest. So this,
what happens is inevitable. Yeah. And there's got the same sense
of inevitability that the Wicker man does. Yeah, there's that,
there's the McGuffin. There's a disappeared person in both. Like
in the first one, it's a little. In Wicker man, it's a little
girl that's disappeared. Right. And now it's Isaac. And now
it's Isaac. Yeah. Now
listeners, listen, I just want to take a minute because I did not
make this clear before we started. We can't fully discuss the
movie without spoiling it, but however, since it's only available
on Blu Ray right now, and it is, it's still relatively new, we're
going to give you a. Now we are going to talk, Dan. We're going
to talk to the party. We're going to get them to the party. And
after that we can talk. Maybe in some generalities, but the actual
ending. Ending. We're going to stop. Sure. We're going to wrap up
the show and then we're going to. Okay, put it as a bonus at the
end because we can't not. No. This film is so new, it hasn't been
seen by that many people, so it would be a shame to spoil it.
Yeah. No, yeah. No, I mean, you know from the. Tone of it that
it's not going. To end well for anybody. So we're not spoiling
that. Right?
Right.
There's no happy endings. No one's getting that. Well, some people
are getting happy ending.
It is a horror film after all. It's a dark.
Happy endings are happening. Not the kind that we're talking about.
Tell me about Eric. About
Eric. Eric is. Eric is this young guy that they meet when they
first get to p town and he shows them around. He's trying to
help them find Isaac.
Can I help you boys with something? Oh, yeah, he checked out
last week, I think.
yeah. He was working over the summer, but then posted about staying
through the off season.
That's weird. Most wouldn't want to do that. It gets real depressing
here in the winter.
Yeah. It's not like him. I'm a little worried.
Well, I can show you boys around if you want. I live here full
time. I know all the year rounders. They might have seen him.
And he shows them around town, introduces them to people. No one
seems to want to talk or remembers Isaac. And the three of
them form an interesting bond. They end up all sleeping together
at one point in the film. Well, several points in the film.
And so you know what you're thinking about Eric is. Is he a plant?
Is he like, what's exactly going on? Is this as innocent as
it appears in the beginning? He just. They just happen. They just
happen. Angel, devil. Right? Yeah. No, I found all that stuff
with him fun.
Like it was.
It was knowing his presence can't be good, but not sureing how
this is going to play out was fun. Yeah. Yeah. You're not. And
I kept waiting. I get waiting for that sh. Like when the threesome
happened, I'm like, oh, this is when this one's gonna be bad.
This when. When they come out of it. Because it's normally in a
movie where the relationship falls apart. Yeah, but doesn't. And
Eric is. Eric is young. And all the other people that have stayed
that stay during the winter that we meet seem to be older men,
workingclass men. And you're like, wow, this cute little twinkie
guy has stayed here. He's sort of living among all these older men.
So he sort of sticks out a little bit. He does stick out a little
bit.
Yeah. He provided. This isn't a funny movie.
There's not a lot of jokes in it. But I Did laugh twice because
of stuff he did.
Because he's.
He's carting them all around this town.
And what I also love about this is that Provincetown becomes
a character.
Oh, yeah. In this movie, the.
This empty frozen wasteland of a vacation.
Down is a character onto itself. And they use the landscape.
It's a brilliantly. So he's taking them to the beaches and all
these rundown areas and looking for bodies and, you know,
interviewing every longshoreman and shit. And it's clearly
freezing.
I know from the cast, they said they were fucking freezing for
four years.
Making this movie out on the beach in January on like a bunch
of idiots with no coats on. But yeah.
So this guy's been a great sport.
He's carrying.
He's carrying them around all day and they're like, ok, you know
what? We've. We've spent a day. Why don't we go do something
else?
Thank you, Eric, for all your help.
Today, but I think we spent enough time on this.
I'm sorry. Let me take you boys out tonight.
You boys doing anything?
Is there something to do?
And a like, well, what else is there to do in this town?
No, Eric just got the look of.
Like he's going to say me.
What.
Everyone else there is to do in this town.
You can do me.
And they do.
And it happens so easily, by the way. Like, there's no discussion
about it. They end up back in the hotel room. Caleb comes out of
the bathroom and Adrian and Eric are in bed already touching
each other. So.
But we had it. It's an hour and it's an hour and 19 minute run
time. We know how it's going to end up. We just cut to the chase.
You got to get to it.
What do we need?
Who needs all the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
This is Grinder time. Like, who had time to cut you the chase?
We've been together all day. Right, right.
Spent 14 hours in the dunes.
Let's go. We all know what we really want. I'm just thinking about.
I shouldn't even. Should I talk about three ways in that requires
so much discussion and planning and logistics. But yes,
I guess when you're in P town in the off scene is season, it's
like, what else?
And there's literally.
There's literally nobody else. Let's go back to the BNB and get
it on.
He's been really keeping really generous. He carries.
We gotta say thank you somehow. Yeah. Yeah. He carted us.
Yeah. He's been taking us to Men who yell at us.
I mentioned earlier how P Town is very much its own character in
the movie. And I love how Eric is the.
Gateway to P Town.
Not just for Caleb, but Adrian, but for us, the audience.
Eric is like a bridge because it's through him that we're introduced
to all the quirky locals. You know, the fisherman and the guy who
owns the coffee shop. And just like in the Wicker man, everybody's
super friendly and super helpful, but they're almost too friendly
and too helpful. So Eric's getting us into the cozy part of
P Town, but also it's him that's dragging Caleb and Adrian
deeper.
And deeper into the wilderness.
He keeps bringing them farther and farther out of town, into the
beaches, into the wilds, into these dangerous areas, you know,
where the bodies wash up. These frozen, empty, dangerous places
that you're not supposed to go in the wintertime. Except we keep
going there in the wintertime. But, you know, Eric's just trying
to help, right? Or is he just trying to help? The movie keeps playing
with your head that way. And I think it's great stuff. Oh, one of
the other characters that.
We run into, his character Myron, the guy who runs the antique
shop. He's classic horror movie character. He's like Crazy
Ralph from. Well, not. Not exactly Crazy Ralph from Friday the
13th, but he's the character who we know has a secret, who's been
living here a long time. He's the get off my lawn type of character.
So he's a. He's a. He's sort of like a horror film staple, like
you guys. I don't have any information for you. I don't know
anything about your friend. You need to leave town.
I'm really sorry to bother you. I'm looking for a friend of
mine. He was working in town over the summer. I have a photo of
him. His name's Isaac. He's actually sitting in front of your
shop.
If he's missing, there's no use searching for him now. Hey, what
I'm saying is this is a transient town. A lot of faces come,
a lot of faces go.
Well, do you recognize them?
Yeah, but you boys all look the same. Now, if he was smart, he
hightailed her that sound. And if he didn't, he's not gonna be the
man in that photograph.
Wait, what are you trying to say?
What I'm trying to say is give up your search, boy. Don't bother
me again.
But. But I liked this guy. He comes, he has. He has sort of a He
makes an impression in the story. He's. He's more than just
a device, I feel like. I mean, we find out later. Later. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. 101 and I.
It took me half the movie to figure out that that was Gloria Hall.
Oh, that was.
Yeah.
Michael McAdams. Oh, my gosh.
Dead face just lit up like a Christmas tree because.
Wow, that's great.
You know, I love.
I love that these two years, like, there's. Now they have a repertoire
of actors that they use, and they're. That's great because that's
what. Nothing like a stable. That's what every actor wants. They
want people to be like, hey, come be in this. Come be in our film.
Let's. Let's collaborate on this thing. So I, I. About these
guys, I also, I also love that they're from Providence, Rhode Island.
I have a huge place in my heart for Providence, Rhode Island.
I think it is so much fun. And what was great about watching Death
Drop was I've been in all those gay bars. I've walked down
those streets. It's.
Slept with her.
I know him. I know her.
No, I, My. My. My partner spends a lot of time on Nantucket,
so I, I'm. I. And so we would drive to Hyannis and always stop
in Providence. Always do a night in Providence, get a nice hotel,
have a nice dinner, visit the gay bars. So it brought back all
those memories. Now. Now when I go back there and be like, where's.
Where is Michael? Where is Brandon? Where are these guys? I
want to run into them. Well, they're all dead. All those guys
are dead, unfortunately. Sorry, Sorry. That's another movie
Back to here.
Yeah, but what I liked about this.
Character is that, like you said, it's.
A hard movie staple.
But he's not just to get off my lawn, get out here. You all do.
Doomed kind of guy.
He is also trying to help them.
At the same time. Yeah.
As much as he can.
Like, it turns out he's like, I'm trying to help you, but not say
anything that will get me killed. So he says fun things. Some
of the dialogue. His dialogue. Like what he's like, if he's missing,
there's no use looking for him now. Yeah, just stop. Don't bother.
Don't bother. I know it sounds harsh, but. No, trust me, you don't
want to keep looking for. You don't. He also has this terrifying
line where he. I think Caleb comes to see him a second time and
he said. He says something like. Like Your boyfriend is lost.
You need to leave now. And that was like, what? Leave alone?
You only have a few hours left to save yourself.
Do yourself a favor and get the out of here. Just forget about
your friend. There are things that lay dormant in the summer that
are lurking in the streets.
Off with your riddles. I know you know something.
Do you know the man you've been spending time with? Eric, I'm
trying to help you, but I have to protect myself first and foremost.
This town, its inhabitants, it's not safe for people like me.
And you leave.
Leave alone.
Forget about your friend, your partner.
They're gone.
You have precious little time to save yourself.
One of those other times when he's being confronted, he's like,
look at.
I gotta find my friend. He's like, listen, boys, come, come, boys,
go, boys.
Get lost in the tide.
Stop looking for trouble, boy.
Tell me what you know about Isaac.
Don't get involved in the happenings of this town once winter
rolls in.
Why?
What is it about this place?
Boys come to get caught in the tide.
What does that mean?
What does that mean? What does that.
And then. Well, we know what that means now. Yeah, we know what
that means now. Is that. Yeah, it's. It's not just Adrian Isaac
that's gone missing. Hot young men disappear here all the time during
the winter. It's just a thing. You know, people think they can stay
through the winter, run out of money, and then. Oh, well, nobody
knows what happens to them.
Listen, I didn't want to make you guys worried, but I don't know,
the seasonal guys, sometimes they get stuck here. They blow through
their money, and they can't leave town.
So if Isaac was stuck, you would call me?
Those places are rough. I. I've. I've had friends who have spent,
like, a winter in Nantucket in the off season or in P town, and
it gets dark, it gets depressing, it gets lonely, it gets
cold. And so. Yeah, yeah, that. I mean, you know, in this movie,
there's a supernatural bend to it, but it. There's also that, like,
there's nothing to do. And you're like, P Town feels like it's
the end of the world, right? It's a peninsula at the end of Cape
Cod. And so the type I love in this movie. What did they use? Drones?
Some of those shots of the beaches. Overhead they had to have,
or the. Car driving on the highway? Like, I saw the budget of
this. It says $20,000 on IMDb. This movie looks like a million bucks.
Like, literally, it doesn't look like it was made for $20,000.
They really. They really have done a great job. But the drones
were so impressive. And it also. It's not just using a drone
to use a drone. It really. It really. It really plays into the
mood and atmosphere of the movie. So 100%. You really. It captures
that whole isolation desolation of things.
This should be beautiful.
But right now it's not. No, no, no. If you were here just three
months ago, you'd love it. But right now, yeah. Death Trap. Welcome.
And tons of it goes on for as far as the eye can see. Nothing and
nobody. Oh, my gosh. Except him. He's waiting. Good old St. Joo.
Since I know these guys a bit, you know, in real life, and I know
how they write and I know how they think. I was like when in the
threesome scene, the first one, Eric introduces drugs to the
equation and I said, what is that, coke? He said, no, it's anaphora.
Something new. And I went, it's not a thing. Well, we find out
later what it is. But I said that. That. That word is standing
out to me. Like, what does that mean? And not surprisingly,
it's all biblical. Everything. Everything has to do with biblical
stuff in this. Even the names, the characters, anaphora. It's. It's
a. It's an oratory device where you keep repeating a phrase
at the beginning of another beginning of a sentence over and
over to make a point, like the I have a dream speech. But it's mostly
used in religious oratory like the Beatitudes. Blessed be the. Blessed
be the. Thou shalt not. Thou shalt not. Thou shalt not. Wow. But
this religious imagery all through this, it's just subtle. Like
I. They'll show the masses of a boat, but it feels like a crucifix.
Yeah. There at the party they're coming up to. There's a pipe
organ in this house.
Why is there a pipe organ in the house?
What.
What is this? Where are we? Who are these people?
So most of the movie, as I'm searching for the. For this missing
boyfriend, Caleb's starting to really spin out. He's having his
own hallucinations and getting more and more paranoid and more and
more. More angry. And this relationship keeps getting more and
more strained and we've got, yeah, this now love triangle forming
because the more Caleb freaks out, the more Adrian is really getting
pushed. Yeah. Towards Eric. And of course, Eric's waiting there
with open arms. One of my favorite things is when they have
a fight at One point, it was after that whole shower monologue.
He has a whole very long monologue about this time he did
drugs with Adrian. They thought he was dead in the shower.
But yeah, they have a fight at the end of it. And while they're
walking away way Caleb tries to take Adrian's hand. She. He swats
it away like Melania does. Melania hands. But it's just such
a small moment. It's just small moment. Yeah. What also, it
also occurs to me when they're fighting, I'm thinking, is this organic
or is this something in P town? Are they like. Is something
controlling them? Is something. Is there a. Is the. Is
there. Is their destiny already sealed? Right? Is it. Is
it beyond a couple's fight? Have they been set up to. To have
these fights and create this rift? So, yeah. And the answer is
yes to all of it. Yeah. You do get a sense that there's a power
above them that they may be helpless to now that is already drawing
them to. You know, I don't. I don't want to. No, there. Dan is
100% right. And when you watch the movie, there is a sense of inevitability
to it. You feel. You feel like they're in a trap. Trap. Yeah. So
are they even helpless to. They feel like they're in a trap.
And people keep giving them outs to the trap and Caleb never
takes them.
Right. Right. Yeah. And. And at one point, it just seems like
Adrian is also under the influence of something else. Like
something is working on him.
Well, yeah, yeah. There's.
There's a second threesome. And this time, the first time they
have a threesome, Caleb, Bobby, Eric introduces drugs, this
new drug, Anaphorum into the situation. Is that coke?
Nah, man, much better. Last longer, take some of the edge off.
It's perfect for vacation. It's called Anaphora.
Nah, minimal.
So. How about you, big guy?
I'm good, thanks.
Suit yourself, boys.
And they both refused, right? The second time. After the second
day, when they're really pissed off at each other. And it's
been a horrible day. They've been nothing but fighting and Kayla's
been nothing but awful to Adrian. And this threesome's about
to happen. He gets off for the jokes and he just says,.
Why not?
The first hit is the hardest.
And Michael, Michael Ahern, if you're listening, the way you said
fuck, it was so wonderfully layered. It was a wonderful performance
of a two word line. You could. There were so many ways to toss it
away, make it easy, but it was Rich. It was rich. So much in that.
Fuck it. So much in that. Because it's also all that. Also
all that felt really real. I know we're living. We're. We're living
in a surreal place right now, but. But these are things that happen
in gay culture, right? Yeah, they happen in gay culture. And the
way they fight feels really real. Like the part where Adrian
says, every single decision that has happened in this relationship
since it started is me compromising.
Every sing, every time.
I have to be the one to compromise.
Jesus, Caleb.
It's clear Isaac doesn't want anything to do with you. He's not
answering your calls, he's ignored your texts. And instead of
accepting that, you continue.
To drag your partner through this fucking wild goose chase of
yours.
Oh, and like you have anything better to do.
Miss happy hour with your basic friends.
And your stupid fucking job?
Fuck you.
I don't have time for your insecurities, Adrian.
Oh, my God. Can you grow the fuck up?
There is something happening here.
Why don't you see it?
There's something seriously wrong.
Every fucking decision we've made in this relationship has been
a concession on my behalf.
Do you.
Do you realize what I've given up for you?
And to what end?
You don't even fucking notice.
I know you.
Everything's always my fault. That I always have to be the one
to compromise. You can do whatever the fuck you want. I've
been here for three days.
We've been here for three days.
All we've done is look at your fucking boyfriend.
I've asked you so many times, could.
We do anything else? And you won't do anything else. Yeah, here
we were. Here we are, another eight hours in the fucking dunes.
Yeah, and it was his idea to go away. It was Caleb's idea to go
away. And. And, yeah, which I love. Even on the way there. Even
on the way there, when they're talking, the way. On the.
In the car, on the way there.
There. Their conversation is very revealing.
This job, it's stressing me out. And I don't know, I used to
be so certain about everything. And lately I'm not so
sure.
Well, you're not working this weekend, so let's focus on having
some fun, relaxing. I think this will be good for us.
Caleb says it'll be a great time.
We can relax and have some fun. No, you won't. You will not
relax and nobody's having fun. And.
And Adrian's talking about his job and.
He says, I used to be so certain about everything. But now
I'm not so sure.
You talk about your job, Adrian, you talk about this. Yeah.
Everything.
We're everything. I love that because the dialogue works on so
many different levels.
Yeah, yeah.
It's well crafted dialogue, which is impressive. Yeah. Very smart.
These guys are very smart. But yeah. On the second day, Adrian brings.
Eric brings the fact, hey, there's a party tonight.
Maybe you guys should go to this party.
There is this big party tomorrow night. The celebrities,
the big wigs, you know, the ones that are on vacation, vacation
homes here, they throw it every year and it might come up pretty
handed, but I think it would be worth checking out to see if anyone's
seen your friend.
Who's gonna be at the party, Dan, who's throwing the party?
It's gonna be all the people that have stayed all the year rounders,
so it seems mostly older gay men, rich gay men. He said. He says
celebrities. Yeah. So it's. It sounds. It sounds enticing. It looks
enticing. The house is beautiful. And I think that's where
we're gonna pretty much stop. We'll talk. I'm gonna talk. I don't
want to get into anything too more specific. What happens after.
Because after this is where the movie goes bananas. Like it's.
It's been very. A mystery. Yeah. It's been an involving mystery
up until this point. There's been nothing particularly frightening.
There's been some spooky visions and. And some cool shots
and things like that. They set the mood. But there's nothing super
horror. But it's coming. It's about this party is where things
get lit. Yeah. From this moment on, it really unravel. What
I would like to say, like the art direction at this party, I think
is fabulous. Gorgeous. Gorgeous. It's like Eyes Wide Shut.
It reminded me of Eyes Wide Shut. It's very much Eyes Wide Shut.
And what I liked about this too. I've seen a couple of movies
now, a couple of gay horror movies now that have tried to recreate
this gay. What's the word I'm looking for? Bacchanalia Feel.
Look at this.
Look at how this gross orgy mess. Yeah. And they always feel
forced. They don't feel real. This felt creepily organic.
So there are a bunch of other movies that I'm thinking of that
I'm not gonna name that they might attempt an orgiastic scene
like this. But they always wind up feeling like porn. It feels
staged, artificial, just exploitive in a dull, uncreative
kind of way. Just try to shock and titillate and that's about it.
But the sex you see going on here not only doesn't look hot and
feel really real, it feels frightening. It feels like decadent
and predatory. And for me, it feels like I'm not just watching
an orgy, I'm watching.
Some sort of a ritual.
And that's really scary. I'm going to paraphrase frequent guests
of the show, Pastor Ben. Hi, Pastor Ben. Pastor Ben. When he's
been on the show before, he'll talk about a scene. He says, I feel
like I'm watching something I shouldn't be seeing. And that's what
these scenes feel like compared to the other scenes. I'm
talking about the lesser orgy scenes in other lesser movies. Those
scenes, scenes are shot to be seen. Look at what we're doing. Look
how naughty this is. Look how gross and sexy. Look how hot we all
are. Look at this hot sex we're having.
But this feels like, yeah, you really shouldn't be here. But you
can look, you can look away. It doesn't really matter. Second
step, what we're doing. But make a choice. It's gonna stay play,
we're gonna run.
Away and ah, that's what it feels like to me. And it's, it keep
gross.
And I love it. Like I've been to the. I'll tell you. I'll tell
you. Patrick. Patrick. Someone contacted me last night while I was
watching this. What are you watching? I'm watching this movie,
Saint Drogo. What's it about? It's about P Town in the winter.
And they're like, oh my gosh, I've been to P Town in the winter.
All it is is these late night parties with everybody getting naked
and doing drugs. I was like, I'm literally watching that right
now.
It's a documentary is what it is.
It seemed, I mean, you know, it's presented in a very surrealistic
way, but a lot of it, I mean, I'm sure that's how things play out
out. If you take away like the weirdo, culty, surreal elements of
it, you know, I'm sure I'm, I've never been, I've never been
to a party like that, unfortunately, yet. But. Or maybe
fortunately, but I've been to one like that. I've been one like
this might have snacks. Well, it seemed like they did have snacks,
but they were human snacks. But. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's,
but you're, you're thinking it's. This is all wrong, right? This
is not Just a bunch of people getting together and h. And. And
a sexy time having drinks and stuff. There's a real. There's a
real certain level of menace that Caleb feels and that is present
at this party. So there's nothing comfortable about this party.
It's very creepy. But even at the party, I. Again, none of this
is specific. But when he first gets there, Caleb has spent.
Caleb has gotten separated.
He's really fre out. He's having all kinds of crazy visions.
He's fought with Adrian. They've split up. Yeah, basically.
You know what?
This guy getting by this guy gives you some self esteem for wants
to.
Just go do that.
Just go, go, go, go.
Then grow a spine.
Whoa, whoa, gentlemen.
Let's pump the brakes. It's all good. Why don't we just go to
that party tonight? Maybe your friend will be there. And after that
we can get you two back on the road into the city.
How's that?
Isaac. His name name is Isaac. You keep referring my friend like
he's some kind of dog. I lost. If this loser boosts your self esteem,
Adrian, then by all means have at it.
And so Adrian's gone and the car's gone and he's been wandering
the beach and tripping. And he winds up at the house where the party
is. And the host invites him right in with open arms, Right?
Oh no.
Like he knows him. Yeah, like he knows.
Like he's. Like he's the prodigal son.
Come on home.
Oh, you poor thing. Come in, come in, Weaver son.
Come in. You're all wet. You look cold. Let us take care of you.
But even then the guy figures out who he's.
Oh, you're Adrian. Oh, yeah. Ancient's here.
Don't apologize. You are more than welcome here. After all, this
is a. A party.
Thank you.
Tell me, how did such a handsome thing like you get stuck
out in the cold alone?
I'm looking for somebody.
Aren't we all?
My friend Isaac, he came here to work over the summer, then just
never came home. So my partner and I.
Partner? Well, I didn't see any partner. Where could he be?
Well, that's who I'm looking for. He's with this guy Eric.
Oh, Eric.
And you know that handsome young thing he was with it. That's
your partner? Oh, he is a looker. What is Adrian, is it? Maybe
I could get someone to fetch him for you. But you know, he did
want me to give you these. The car is fixed.
It's out back.
But he told me you wouldn't be lasting long tonight. Do try to enjoy
yourself. After all, this is a celebration.
You want to make sure you have these. Your car keys. We fixed your
car for you. Here's your last chance, stupid.
Please take the car keys.
Take them.
It leads to a scene of violence that's so graphic, it. The
word I had for it was operatic. There's something operatic
about the gore. Yeah. And how this all plays out. It's really shocking.
It's really unexpected. I mean, the level of detail that it
gets into is, is, is really shocking. It's also, again, in the
broad day, in broad daylight, which also, for some reason, lends
it an even because you're, you know, expect in broad daylight, everything's
going to be pretty and shiny and a lot of bad body horror happens
in this, in this final shot. And like, we've been following this
character the entire movie. We feel for him. He's become our in
to this film. Right? He's the, he's the one that hasn't succumbed
and now he's being held against his will. And like torture
in movies is just, you know, it really gets to me because that,
the feeling of helplessness, the feeling, especially in this movie,
like you said, given so many chances to leave, given so many chances
to turn around, Adrian is constantly pushing him. Let's go,
let's go, let's go.
And.
Yeah. And then to end up this way is just so sad. It's upsetting.
It's upsetting. And in the way it plays out, it's all very slow
and it's not.
Even, it's not even.
It's that I, it, the gore is extreme, but there's something about
it that's also not extreme. Exploitive. Right. Like, Right. It's
about the artistry of it all,.
Which makes it worse.
Like, look at how beautiful we're making this. Yeah. Yeah. Someone,
someone compared it to early Tom Savini or Tom Savini special
effects, which always are. Which always look super realistic,
but also, like you said, operatic in a way. And I, I'm, I'm
not. I've learned damn over time. I don't like watching my friends
die on film. So this I, I, I, I, I cry every time I see a friend
in a horror movie. I make a kill. This I was born. This whole
thing is all so upsetting. It's all upsetting.
And I wish we could tell you.
More, but you have to go buy.
The, you have to go buy the.
Blu Ray to find out and do. Buy the Blu Ray. Buy it.
Yeah.
Okay, before we go and just wrap things up on the other end,
would you recommend this movie? Would you recommend this movie?
Absolutely. I mean, this movie pushes all my buttons. Like I said,
isolated location, surreal imagery. I love a slow burn. I love
a slow burn because I'm a child of the seventies. And. And
the seventies were all. It's, you know, this is like Messiah of
Evil Dead and Buried all the films we talked about. I love this
location. I would totally recommend this movie. I. And, you
know, it's not. I would. I would say it's not just for gay viewers.
I think everybody would. And horror fans of all ilks were. Will
get something out of this film. So, yeah, I totally recommend
it. Totally recommend it.
Well said, sir.
And also, you said ilks, which is one of my favorite words. No,
I agree. I think also, I mean, it is for a horror movie for everybody.
Because I did the. The group that I did show it to was mixed.
And those who did stay really enjoyed it. But if you're squeamish
about gay stuff, it's not for you. Like, but. And they're not gonna
apologize for that. They're not gonna hold your hand through
the gay stuff and say, no, this is the ugly stuff that we do.
This is our people. This is who we are. Deal with it. And it
also doesn't. It also doesn't.
Like.
It leaves a lot of things unanswered. It leaves a lot of questions,
which is the. Which is also a great thing about the 70s movies,
right? Yeah, like. Like Texas Chainsaw, all this horrifying things.
Stuff happens. And you're like, why? Why did that happen? Happen
in this. There's so. There's so much mystery that's still left
at the end. We don't really completely know what's going on,
who these people are, why they're doing this. I mean, it sent
me down a rabbit hole of looking up, what was Saint. Who was
Saint Drago? How was that. Or Drogo? How was that connected to
this film? How was that connected to the events of this film?
Like you said, there's all these biblical references. So this.
This. This movie has a. This movie will keep you talking also.
So after you've seen it. Yeah, 100%. 100%. Not giving anything away,
but there is a St. Drogo. You're wondering why this is called
St. Drogo. St. Drogo rises from the sea. And it's not good,
right? It's not good. But in the early Prince, St. Drogo drops.
He comes in with the Act 3 exposition drop. This is what this
is all about. This is what I want. This is what we've all been
building to. This is why this is happening. And I couldn't understand
a fucking word he said. Not a single, single word he said. And
so I was so happy when the Blu Ray came out. He's got subtitles
now. Oh. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Subtitles weren't there,.
But even with the subtitles, it's still a little bit murky.
Like, it's a little bit murky. But the thing is, I've done my.
Head cannon on it, and I think I have my own thing because I built
my own version. When I didn't have that, when I didn't have his
exposition, I had to figure out for myself what was going on.
And I had something that I think works, and it still works.
And we'll talk about it on the other side.
All right, Dan, to make us.
You have some projects coming up. Let people know where they can
find.
You and what neat things you're doing.
In New York City soon. I'm right now rehearsing a play at the
Public Theater. It's called Public Charge. We start performances
March 12th. Public theater, that's theater with T E r@theend.org.
Buy your tickets. We're running through from March 12th to
April 5th. And I've. I've got my own podcast, too. Hot Date with
dan and Vicki. Hotdatepod.com you can find it us. You can find
us on all your podcasts.
What happens on the hot date?
What do you do? What.
What's so hot about this date?
Well, we pick a random date in history and then we find a movie
that came out around or near that date, and Vicky and I watch
it and talk about it. So it's our way of watching movies that we
haven't seen. Sort of expanding our own film library. So.
No, I like that because, you know, it doesn't limit you to one
genre or anything. Exactly. We jump around. People always think,
because it's me, it's a horror podcast. But it's not actually. We
actually don't talk about horror a ton. I. We do, but the film
we choose is usually not horror. Always good to push one's
bond bound. Always good to use words that can you pronounce. Use
your words, Patrick. Use your words.
All right, for those of you who are brave and want to find out
what happened in. In St. Joe, for those who've already seen it
and want to. Want to hear what we've got to say about what I think's
been going on. What Dan think is going on. We'll see you.
I'm the other side.
Okay, that was fabulous. Yay. Thank you once again to my very special
guest, Dan Domingues. It's always such a pleasure to hang out
with you and talk about scary movies. I bet some of you sitting
out there have noticed. Hey, Patrick, isn't that play that dad
talked about appearing at the Public? Didn't that close, like weeks
ago? Yes, it did. Unfortunately, this episode took
a lot longer to produce than I wanted to do.
To microphone problems, which I'll try to explain in a little bit.
I worked my hardest to get this episode out. Said he could at
least catch the tail end of Dan at the Public.
Theater, but unfortunately it was just not in the cards.
However, I spoke to Dan and if you want to see some stuff that he's
doing, he's in the video podcast Vex voom in the 21st century.
It's his new neo futuristic sci fi spoof podcast that's available
on video as well. He's going to do 15 episodes of them. Or rather,
I should say he has.
Done 15 episodes of them. So they're available out there.
It's very funny.
I just watched a couple of them.
If you like the Lost Skeleton of.
Cadavera, you'll love Vex foom in the 21st century because I got
a real.
Kick out of it.
The link will be down there in.
The show notes as well as a link to Dan's other podcast, Hot
Date.
With Dan and Vicki.
So once again, thank you, Dan. It was pleasure having you would
be on this very special occasion. Patrick, what's going on
with the microphones? I don't know. I don't.
I still don't know. It's an ongoing thing.
It's been going on since I ended the show. I ended the show
and immediately started.
Having these mic conflict problems. My m. My major microphone,
my big,.
Expensive microphone just won't work with my PC. So I bought
a new PC and.
It's not working with that either.
Except sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, and I don't.
I don't know why. One of the secondary reasons that this episode
with Dan took so long was not so much the microphone problems.
It was that when we recorded, it was a good microphone day. Everything
worked and we sound great. But now I have to add pickups.
I have to add the beginning of.
The show, I have to add the end of the show, and all of a sudden
the mic's not cooperating. It's not cooperating right now. I
don't know if you can hear it.
I'm on a shitty headset mic and.
I didn't want to change the quality.
Quality of sound mid show. Like have these little pops of. Of
questionable sound and make everything, well, shitty at least.
Definitely this tag at least episode's over. It's done.
You've already invested.
But the episode said it's so good and this movie means so much
to me that I want the episode to be perfect. Okay? It's my resurrection
and they're ruining it.
It's not fair.
I'm gonna have to come back, do.
It all over again anyway.
I don't know what's going on. Anyone out there is a PC expert who
might be able to help me.
Understand what's going on. Why it's. Sometimes one sometimes
works, sometimes not. Because let's let me tell you, I bought a
new PC. It's not working there. Spoke to the microphone manufacturer.
They sent me a patch for the.
For the drivers. It worked for a while, but now today it's not working
yet. Today when I want to finish the Dan episode is not working.
I'm complaining. I'm complaining and ruining my own resurrection.
From the dead party. Okay, I know the real question on all of
your mind is patch or Eric, when are you coming back to see us
again?
Well, I don't know.
That's not entirely up to me.
Like I said, there is a short.
List of films and I'm not telling you what they are that I
said when they finally get released on a mainstream level, or
at least a more public way, I want to cover them because I think
they're fabulous and I think you'll love them. I don't know when
they're coming, so we wait. However, I also said when I stumble.
Across a movie that is so ScreamQueenzthat I can't not come
back from the dead and talk about it, I will do that as well.
I have a couple of those in.
The books as well.
I also don't want to overload you, be like Patrick. I thought you
were. I thought you were retired. What do you share?
Yes, I am. Yes, I am.
So I don't want to be bombarding you with ScreamQueenzepisodes
after I retired, constantly.
So we're going to wait.
You're going to get one at the.
End of the summer. Okay. And then get another one around Christmas.
How's going it that? So keep your eyes on your feed and we'll
see what happens.
And also, you need to Be keeping your eyes on your feet anyway,
because there's lots going on at the ScreamQueenz Potter verse.
If you love Friday the 13th the series, you should be listening
to Damian Wonka Lewis. Our Friday the 13th this series retrospective
podcast for years is only available on Patreon, and now it's
slowly being released to the public every third Friday of the
month. Yes, it's a schedule change that just.
Happened, but every third Friday you're gonna get episodes.
First Friday get a retro ScreamQueenzand the third Friday
get a Damien Walker Lewis. If you love Scream. If you miss Scream
Queen so much, I'm re releasing classic episodes every
first Friday. Classic episodes that haven't seen the light of day
till 2017. Remember way back, long time listeners, I had a completely
different theme song. It used to be Hunting for witches. I go hunted
for witches. How to go in a row. Well, I lost the rights of that.
I couldn't use it anymore, so I had to take all those episodes
down. However, I'm editing them down and re releasing them every
first Friday of the month. So you can relive the early magic of
ScreamQueenz and also also keep your eyes on your feeds. Because
public episodes of it came from the 70s. The movie where I talk
about films made for TV. Movies from the 70s where we thought
saccharine was a good idea.
We got a new one coming down.
The pike next month. Next month we're going to be talking.
About my friend Martin is coming back,.
Who you met at Crow Haven Farm. He's coming back to talk about
She's Dressed to Kill. It's all about. The world's greatest models
are invited to an exclusive fashion show at a mountain tops chalet
and get knocked off one by one by one. It's like an Agatha Christie,
but the whole cast is filled with the cheesiest 70s people ever.
It's terrible and you'll love it. That's coming next month. And
if I get this microphone things resolved, I will start recording
these, what I like to call ScreamQueenzbehind the Screams, where
I'm talking to LGBT horror filmmakers. I got Roger Connors,
director of the gay slasher movie Meet, waiting in the wings.
However, I can't do it with a shitty microphone. So let's just
pray we get these things resolved. So, hey, if you know anything
about PCs, if you have any electronic wizardry in your system,
please contact me. Please let me know. And let's see if we can
get this fixed. Because Lord knows, Best Buy has been no help.
But I am complaining again on My very special day.
And I'm not going to do that. So I'm just going to say thank.
You again to Dan for joining me.
But more importantly, thank you everybody for being here. It's
nice to see everybody still here. Maybe we made some new friends
along the way as well. I made more friends dead than I was alive.
How sad. What are we. What am I even talking about? I don't know
anymore. All right, I. Everyone, whether you're coming to
join me on board at it came from the 70s or a Damian Lewis, or
you just gotta wait around for the next new ScreamQueenz to roll
around wherever it was. Thank you so much for joining me. But just
remember, the ScreamQueenz golden rule is still in effect. Fight
or flight, survive the night, make.
It to the final reel. They stay safe, stay healthy, and most
of all, stay fabulous. Because I love you.
Now get out of here.
Except, of course, if you're sticking around to hear the spoiler
for Saint Drogo, in which.
Which case, don't go anywhere.
For the rest of you, get out of here. All of the music for tonight's
show, unless otherwise specified, has been written by Sam
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Ew.
Dance. Yes. Girl, girl, girl. What the hell is going on here?
We have got to talk about the end of this movie. All right, listeners,
this is your absolute last chance. If you don't want St. Joe
go spoiled, turn the recording off now because we can't wait anymore.
5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Here we go. By the way, ding dong, this is Patrick
from the future, because Dan and.
I got so excited that we just.
Dove right into the nitty gritty without actually explaining
anything that happens in the end of this film. Okay, so we were
at the party right now at the party, Caleb was sitting with the
host, right? And the host was like, hey, everything's great, you
know, Here are your keys. Have some drugs. Enjoy the party. And
last we saw him, Caleb said no to the drugs, took the keys, but
didn't take the opportunity to escape. However, he did accept the
cup of tea that the host was so kind to provide for him on this
cold, wintry night. Whatever you do when you're in this kind of
a situation, don't drink the tea because, surprise, it spiked.
So when Caleb is wandering through the party, we're never really
sure if what he's seeing is real or if what he is seeing is an
illusion. If all the sex and perversion and strange things that
we see are a fantasy or Reality. Guess what? Their reality.
And one of the things we see with the last things we see is Adrian,
his boyfriend, getting pounded by the host of his party while the
host is just staring Caleb right in the eye, like, yep, I'm
taking this. He's mine now. He's one of us now, Adrian. You fucking
kidding me?
Get the out of here. Come on, Kaleb.
Please, Adrian.
I don't want to go with you.
Caleb eventually passes out. When he wakes up, he's on the beach.
It's morning. It's a beautiful, cold, wintry morning.
Morning. But he's tied up. Everybody's in robes, chanting, hail,
Saint Drogo.
Hail, hail, Saint Drogo.
Hail Saint Drogo. The Wicker man ending. Here it comes. And it's
going to be bad.
This is a very long sequence, and we're just exploring the layers
of betrayal that have gone on.
That we see that Adrian's there and.
He's just watching and he's not going to help. He's gone. Kept
screaming for help and screaming, I.
Love you, but it's just too late. And he gets one more chance
to save himself, because Saint Drogo finally arrives, that robed
figure that we've seen throughout. We now see him being
escorted onto the beach.
And we finally see what's under the robes. It's this hideous,
withered skeleton of a.
Creature with too many teeth. Teeth in places where you shouldn't
have teeth. And Saint Drogo gives him an ultimatum, essentially
saying, join me. We don't have to do this. All you need to do is
partake of my communion and you'll be one us of forever. And
the communion is that drug that.
They've been pushing on him. But Caleb says no.
And he's sacrificed in this incredibly slow ritual. His legs
are broken and he's disemboweled. He's beheaded. It's
a lot. While everyone stands and watches, while Adrian stands
there and watches. And in all this, we also discover that, oh,
by the way, Isaac's alive.
He's fine.
He's one of the people that are helping. This has all been for
nothing. You've been chasing a lie this whole time. This was inevitable.
We gave you a million chances to escape. That's the big ending
of the movie. Caleb is killed.
Evil wins.
It's very upsetting.
There's a text in which we'll get.
Into later because I want to talk to Dan.
I've been yapping long enough.
Okay. Not to spoil the ending of Death Drop gorgeous for you, Dan,
because I.
Know you didn't finish it but movie's been out for a while and
you should have finished it by now. I know you were saying. But
Brandon who plays Caleb and this also gets disemboweled at the
end of. You're kidding.
I've said I've seen his insights so.
Many times by now. These guys have themes.
Good lord, Brandon. Put him away.
Brandon's one big prolapse. I love you, Brandon. So.
So. Yeah. So the whole thing is that Provincetown is run by a
religious cult that's not even a cult.
It's a religion. It's flat out religion. Who new.
Yeah. There's some ancient evil that that's. That's. That gives
Province centers magic.
Not prom. Yeah. Provincetown. Provincetown. Yeah. Yeah. It's often.
Yeah. I often mistake the thing is there. For Providence and
it's death drop takes. Place in Providence, I think. Aren't they
coming from Providence at the. At this top of this movie?
They are. They are.
What I like since Providence is it's game back at all tone like
this one actually in its own way shits on the other like don't
go there. They're run by devil people.
Come see us. We're cool.
But we're cool slashers. We have cool slashers. I would almost
blew the ending for you. But I'm not going to do. That's okay.
The other thing that this movie reminded of and like I said
I had to form my own initially had to form my own idea of what's
going on here is that. Did you read Clive Barker's Midnight Meat
Train? No, but I've seen the movie. I haven't read it. No. Yeah.
Something that's missing from the movie. The opening paragraph
of Midnight Me Train basically says that there are certain places
in the world, cities that are magic. They've always been magic.
And the reason why they've always been magic is because the
ancients, that's where the ancients dwelled. The old gods lived
like New York. It's magic. It will always be magic. That's where
they dwell. The thing is they're still here. They're old and
firm now and they need to be fed. Yeah. You want to keep the magic
going, you gotta feed us. So in my mind, Saint Jogo is kind of
the thing I came up with. It said, do my bidding and I will make
a paradise for your people. You will want for nothing. Just feed
me over the winter. Feed me some pretty boys.
Wow.
And you've talked about looking up what Saint Drogo meant.
Saint Drogo apparently was the patron saint of ugly people. Of ugly
people and unattractive people. Yes. Also of coffee and shepherds.
Yeah, yeah. Shepherd's is official coffee. Nobody knows what
that came from. But the ugly people one I think is fascinating
too, because now I'm also thinking Drogo. The word drogo in
Spanish slang means drug addict. Drogo. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Which.
He's a pusher. Saint Drogo is a pusher. What am I talking about?
What is this drug they're sniffing?
What is this drug? It's not cocaine.
What is it down? It is ground teeth. Oh, that all says. I mean,
teeth in movies. The teeth seen in this movie or the teeth monster
in this film. I mean, you know, I don't know if you watch Channel
Zero, but there was a tooth monster in that, in that show. Anything
like that. Chattering teeth or. It just, it gets them. It just,
it just really like gets under my skin. The teeth get under my skin,
Patrick.
Especially teeth that come off some weird tumor that's under his
arm. It's like this.
It's like this cancerous organ that's made of teeth.
They pull, they grind up and they snort it.
And that's.
That's communion. He says, take it. My.
He offers like, this is my body. It's so smart. These guys are
so smart because they're creating this b. They're creating
this backstory that is mythic and biblical, but also it has all
these references to modern gay culture. Right. The abuse of drugs
addiction is a big part of this film. Like, like a lot of these.
It felt a little bit like, get out. Right. Like these older men
are trying to get the spirits of these younger men so they can
stay young. They need a sacrifice. And you know, gay culture
is obsessed with looking young, with looking hot. So the two
worlds really, really converge. And not in a heavy handed
way. You're like, oh, yeah, I can get the that. But, but, but that's
what I loved about the writing and, and the production of that,
is that those two worlds.
I love the visual storytelling I mentioned at the party. One of
these.
I love that.
Something that Dan just touched on.
Now when we first get to the.
Party and we're seeing the first floor.
Of the party, because there's many, there's many levels to this
party, literally and figuratively. There are many levels
to this party. The first one, I'm like, everybody's into talks.
Everybody's over 40. Everybody's bald. Yes. There's a
certain demographic. It's me. I would be on the first Floor.
Hi, everybody.
I'm a. I'm a first floor floor gay. But that means it would set
my alarm bells up. I'm like, oh, yeah.
Oh, it's the a.
It's the toxic ays. Which also. This is about. This is like
the. When you have a beautiful gay community and the toxic community,
the toxic awful people come in and take it over and ruin it. That's.
Yeah.
Which we also touch on in death.
Drop the whole. About the. Because we touched on the whole gentrification
of Provincetown. Like we built this beautiful community. Now straight
people are taking it from us.
It's the same thing.
It's like that we have this. We built the world. And now these
people are here because of that thing over there.
Every.
And going back to the whole drug reference thing, it reminded
me of like, almost like a Harvey Weinstein thing. Or like you
see the situations in gay culture where you have some old creepy
gay dude with tons of money who has the drugs, who has this bevy
of boys. Most beautiful boys. Everybody knows him. Everybody loves
him. Yeah. Because he always has the drugs on it. But this is.
That's exactly. They all love Saint Drogo because they're all addicted
to that. To that drug. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't get them high, gives
them power. It gives them money. It gives them respectability.
It makes you one of the. One of the chosen. I. And I love this
idea that it eats up young boys. Like, it takes it. It. Because
that it. I mean, it does happen in towns like this where there
are like. Not to get too serious. But.
No, it's hard. It's what we do here.
Go in. In the winter on places like Nantucket and places like Provincetown.
The overdoses go up. Deaths from overdoses go up. Deaths from
suicide go up. So it just rang really true that that's that aspect
of it, like that of that idea of eating up these young gay men
who are addicts and who. So it just. Yeah, it was very sad at the
same time. And what I was saying about the levels, like, I
don't let. Like you had the people in the first floor like these
clearly with the A list. But then up there with the working.
Then you had the priests.
You had the high priests on the next floor. All the.
All the people who ropes who were.
Giving me don't look now vibes when you seeing the rope. Rope. People
popping up around town in certain visions. Like I now we're
in do look now territory. We're pulling from that now too.
So many smart things. Yeah. Suspiria vibes too. Suspiria vibes,
yes, Suspiria vibes as well. It's like a coven of something that
yeah, controls people. All this orgy stuff in here was so well
shot because it felt hot but also horrifying at the same time.
And never clearly staged. Clearly massively art directed.
Like everything is.
Is precise and, and, and for. Done for a reason, yet never felt
artificial. Like I was saying, I've just seen so many thinking of
a movie that I just sat there. I don't want to say the name of it,
but it's a gay film that had lots of these orgy seeds and they
just felt dumb. Yeah. Fake. Like you're just doing.
It's like gay theater.
Like we're just gonna have some like naked people in a shitty
play. You know, we got guys with big dicks to get you in the
door. Right, right. And then the play's like eh. But this was
not that. It is true. The art direction and the cinematography
in this are great. I'm trying to pull up the cinematographer's
name because I just felt like Kevin Bowden. I'm just taking that
off of IMDb everybody. Like the editing, I don't know, it just
all seemed again, going back to the budget that they had. It just.
Everyone was working their A game. It just looks. It's a great
looking film and that, that just. That just helps. We've all
seen low budget films where one element, the sound, the cinematography
is off and it just sort of. And it ruins the whole experience.
And in this film it's all. Everyone is working at their A game.
So tell your friends that, tell the guys that I. That I just.
Yeah, thought hire Dan for your next movie. Oh, tell them that
too. Tell them I love Providence and I love. I love Providence.
I'll go to Providence in a hobby Heartbeat. It just did. You
told him yourself. As I mentioned in the first part of the
session, one of my favorite.
Things about this movie was trying to figure out who in this
movie played whom in Death Drop.
Gorgeous.
And the person who was really giving me trouble was Eric, the actor
Matthew Pidge. And the funny thing is I had a pen.
Completely wrong character.
I forget which one it was, but I had it completely wrong. Until
all of a sudden we're doing the scene in the big finale where
we finally find that Eric is not a real friend, that he is working.
With the other side, that he's 100% evil.
And.
And it's when Caleb is walking through the. The orgy scene. And
he just stumbles upon Eric and he's splayed out across that couch
and he just says, oh, you made it. I went, oh, there she is. That's
Janet Fitness. Oh, I didn't know what to be. So long. It was
Janet all the time.
Yeah, but the biblical stuff carries too. Like even the names.
The main guys like Caleb Biblical explored. His whole thing
was he explored the promised land before Moses got there. And
he spends the whole movie exploring the province land. The
promised land of province. Sam. Yeah, Isaac, Right. Yes.
They need to pull Rowan Morrison with this too, because it
turns out Isaac's.
Alive the whole time. He was never sacrificed on the beach.
And of course, Isaac in the Bible is supposed to be sacrificed
to his God. Right. But he's saved by a last minute switcheroo.
And that's exactly what happens here.
That's right.
There's a point where Saint Dro's.
Like I was telling Caleb, I know you. I like you. I've watched
you.
This is.
This had been set in motion for a long time.
And it kind of feels like was.
Isaac get to live now? Because he called in Caleb just like the
Wicker Man. So. Yeah, it just makes you feel like this was destined
to happen. He. Caleb could not get away from this. From this destiny.
And that's so sad because he had no power over this. Like this
was gonna happen. He was drawn here. He was tricked to come here.
Yeah.
Hold on. I know just the person.
He's stubborn as a mule. Yeah. And he wants me. So I'm gonna get
him to come and he. You won't have to kill me. You can have him.
He's much tastier than I am.
And.
Oh, boy, do they have him. They carve that to pieces. It's.
It's. It's. Oh, my God. And just the betrayal of Adrian just
standing there watching. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's gone. And that sad
shot at the end when what's his face, the antique owner shop,
is driving off, and we just see Eric and. And Adrian just walking
on the side of the road. And you're just thinking, Adrian's to
be here forever now. Yeah, he's going to be. Yeah, he's home.
He's home. He's home. Yeah, he's fine. He's fine. You just got
to get to the winners. You're one of us now. You're not one of
them. Yeah, I love a down. I love a downer ending movie. And this
one has a downer ending. Yeah, well, it depends for who I mean.
Everyone else got happy and just Caleb, you know, he could have
stopped again. He could have stopped it at any time. Yeah.
Yeah.
But he winds up being the sacrifice and all because he won't
even.
Even. Even at the very end. He had the opportunity. St. Drogo gave
him the opportunity.
All you got to do is snort this. Yeah. Just take. Just p. No
snort. And we don't have to do it. No sorry. No. No begging, no
bargaining. No sorry. We're down. Good stuff. All right. I had
to forgive a lot in Death Drop. Gorgeous.
But I also know it was their.
First film, and it feels like a first film, and they was. That
was an incredibly ambitious film. Yeah. The amount of crowds.
Because you know how hard it is to shoot a crowd scene, you know.
You know, hardest to shoot a dancing.
Scene, like a club scene.
The long nights are expensive, but it's hard to do. And they're
in. They were in a major city. I mean, Providence, Rhode island,
is a small city, but it's still a city. Yeah. Right. And so
corralling all that stuff. Yeah. So many moving parts of that
story.
So many locations and so many.
There is so much that was so ambitious. So some of the things
aren't great. And I let that slide. Said, okay, that's fine, I'll
let it go.
It's not a big deal. Because ultimately, at the end of the.
Day, it would turn out to be a great film. And I. At the end, I
was shocked and surprised and said I didn't not expect to be here
when this is over.
But this. You're right.
You don't. It doesn't feel low budget. No, I. And I've heard people,
some people criticize the acting. I say they. Everybody feels
so organic with each other.
It doesn't feel like acting.
Which is fine to me. Yeah. I mean, these guys know each other.
They're friends, they. They're. They work together for a
while. It seems like in real life they know each other. The chemistry
is already there. They have a comfortableness on screen. Listen,
I could quibble a little bit about some of the acting. Yeah, of
course. But after, you know, because I'm an actor myself and I'm
going to be super critical of other actors. That always happens.
Yeah. But I feel like this movie wrapped me in its. In its mood
and atmosphere, and I just forgave a lot of that stuff. A lot
of that stuff just went away. So I didn't. Yeah. In the end. In
the end, I bought it it all. And thank you for introducing this
film to me and These filmmakers, because I now they will
be on my radar. You're welcome. You're welcome. Yeah.
And you're welcome, boys. He's amazing. He's amazing.
Cast him in something, please. Cast him in things.
I've directed him.
He's amazing. Oh, my God. You did. That's right, I did. Wow. Yeah,
we won a prize. Thank you very much. See me in action. Audition
me.
And then I said, all right. Thank you, Dan, for joining me.
This is very good to hang out out again. It was so nice to see
you, Patrick. Thank you for the invite and especially for this
movie. For. For introducing me to. To these guys. The second I saw
it when. When at the. On the film festival, Circus said, this
is one for down. This is this. And I was not gonna have anybody
else. We had such trouble. We had such trouble booking this. So
many things happened. So many things happened to keep this from
happening, but it finally happened. I'm happy. What did I want
to say? Oh, I also also want to get you back on the plane back
to the. Back on the what? The plane back to the 70s. Oh, okay.
Those episodes where I talk about 70s movies are now going to
be their own podcast. Okay. And I finally saw Bad Ronald and
I said, this is a Dan to make us movie. I've never seen it, Dan.
It's got that one, but two Aislebacher sisters in it. Oh, my.
Lisa and another Aislebacher playing sisters. It's really good.
Oh, my gosh. You know how much I like Lisa Eilbacher. I thought
that's what I said.
Listen, it's got two a.
From the same one is Bad Ronald. The one with the. Who's the
actor?
Was.
It was also brothers. They were in a lot of 70s and 80s. No.
Am I wrong? I'm thinking of somebody else. There might have been.
There was a lot of. There was a big family that moves in this house
with lots of kid actors in it. I don't know. Possibly. But no, it
was the wall. The one wall person. Okay. The walls. Yeah. All
right. Yeah. I've never seen it. I have.
I have.
We'll have to fix that down the road. All right. Okay. After
you're done with your thing at the public and after you do. But
before you.
After you do the thing at the.
Public, but after you do their next movie. All right. Somewhere
in there, we'll do a Bad Ronald episode. All right. Thank
you, Dan. All right, we're going to wrap this.
Up and also want to say a reminder to you to please buy St.
Drogo on Blu Ray.
The information is down in the show. Show notes head on over to
monster makeup llc.com. It's $25. It's totally worth it.
You've heard the whole movie.
Now, if we haven't convinced you, I don't know what else we could
possibly do.
If you want an original story that's.
Beautifully shot, that's going to get under your skin and make it
crawl, then you've got one right here. What are you waiting
for? Who knows if it will ever make streaming? People need to know
about this little mini masterpiece, and you need to see
it.
So go do that.
I'm not going to say it again. Everybody stay safe. Stay healthy.
I'll see you next time.
I'll see you on Damian Lewis or maybe in a plane on a cave from
the 70s. Or maybe I'll see you the next.
Time I resurrect myself from the dead on ScreamQueenz.
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