We need to talk about ideas, good ones and bad ones.

We need to learn stuff about the world.

We need an honest, intelligent, thought provoking, and entertaining

review of what the hell happened on this planet in the last seven days.

We need to sit back and listen to the Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove.

Oh, I'm not so sure.

We need to know what happened in the last seven days, dear listener.

Or learn more about the world because it just gets increasingly depressing as

we catalog the demise of civilization here on the Iron Fist and the

Velvet Glove back from a long break.

But having visited, um.

Vietnam, the Socialist Republic of Vietnam.

Yes, Scott, the Velvet Glove.

Welcome back.

Good day, Trevor.

Good day.

Joe G. Day listeners.

I hope everyone's doing well.

Welcome back.

Comrad Scott.

I don't think I'm comrad, but you know, it's, um, I had my.

Respect you voted greens last time.

I didn't vote greens because I had no choice.

Good one, Joe.

And that is Joe, the tech guy.

Good one.

Yeah.

That was only in the house of representative.

I would never trust them in the Senate.

But anyway, um, yes, uh, I had a increasing respect for HMN before

this trip, and I came back away from it with an incredible respect for

the man because the one thing he wanted was an independent Vietnam.

Mm-hmm.

And he never got to live to see it, but.

Anyway, it's, um, and the whole thing should have been sorted out

in 1953 after the Y after the French got their ass kicked to Denby.

And, but then the Yanks got involved.

Mm-hmm.

And then it just fell apart from there.

And as we were discussing just before going live mm-hmm.

All it required was the Yanks to mind their own business and leave people alone.

Exactly.

Had they had, they stayed out of it.

Mm. You know, had they had, they stayed out of it, it would've been fine.

And Ho Chi Min, when he first went on a tour of America and everything

else, when he was trying to get rid of the French, he went on a tour of

the Americans and he, uh, to America.

And he said to the Yanks, you want us to be a liberal capitalist democracy?

We will be a liberal capitalist democracy.

All you want is your help to get rid of the French.

Yes.

And that should have been enough for 'em, but apparently it wasn't.

Yeah.

Can't have some uppity, um, colonial develop, developed country, getting

rid of its colonial oppresses that would set a bad precedent.

You know?

Um, let's face it, the, uh, it was only 15 years earlier before the Yanks

got involved in the war, that they had been telling the British that they had

to dis, dis dismantle their empire.

They were going all around the planet, telling them that they had to get out.

But for some reason a French empire was sacrosanct.

I just don't understand that.

Hmm.

Anyway.

Yeah.

Anyway.

Well, we're gonna talk about, uh, well, we're supposed to talk about

news and politics and sex and religion, all the things you're not supposed

to talk about at a dinner party.

Uh, we probably won't, probably, we won't get to the sex part.

I don't think there's anything on the agenda along those lines.

But, um, what are we going to talk about so that you get an

idea, dear listener of the agenda?

Well, of course, Gaza, Israel, Jews.

Uh, Palestine, Israeli Defense Force, um, all that sort of stuff we're gonna talk

about in particular, uh, what happened at a Glastonbury, at a, um, music festival.

Music festival.

Mm-hmm.

And, um, and really discuss, you know, have we, it's the amount of coverage

that's had particularly in the uk.

Where people are outraged by the death.

Death to the IDF chant and the amount of space it's had in newspapers and

time spent on television panel shows.

Somebody chanting something about the IDF has had far more coverage than the actual

genocide being committed by the IDF.

Oh yeah.

This is the incredible dystopian world we are in.

Or well, couldn't have written this.

Or maybe he could have, it would've been right up his alley.

This is the world we're in and it's, it's quite shocking, I think so.

So we'll kick off with that one, Scott, I mean mm-hmm.

Uh, death.

Death to the IDF was the chant and, well, hang, hang on.

So the BB, C and their wisdom decided that Kneecap, who are a Gaelic rap band,

if I remember correctly, mm. Uh, were two controversial, controversial to broadcast.

So they cut over to some group that we'd never heard of called Bob Villain.

Who then led the crowd and a chant of Death.

Death, the IDF.

Hmm.

Yeah.

And of course this has been seen as anti-Semitic, but it's quite specific.

IDF being the Israel The Defense Force.

Well, yes.

And it's not even necessarily the people in it.

It could be the organization.

Indeed, indeed.

An organization, which is on the record.

Openly stating genocidal intent.

Mm-hmm.

And there is committing genocide too.

Mountains of evidence.

Uh, demonstrating.

That's it.

So if during the second World War, towards the end, people had chanted death,

death to the, what was the name of it?

The SS the SS or something, people would've gone.

Well, fair enough.

Like, yeah, exactly.

We are reaching that point, folks, where these guys are, you know, the

latest WW Well, you know, as I'm preparing the agenda for this podcast,

and you know, okay, fair enough, it's been two weeks, but you just start

going through the things that have.

Happening over there.

And of course the starvation that we predicted, what everyone

predicted, uh, is just ongoing.

Now they've got these aid stations controlled by a wacko Christian group out

of America where it's like something out of squid games where people are being shot

as they attempt to get bags of flour and.

Yeah, this isn't an accident.

And we've got Israeli, uh, we've, we've got contractors working with

the Israelis who are saying, yeah, they're just shooting people.

And, oh, we, uh, there Sky News had an interview with a member of

the IDF who was a reservist Yes.

Who was saying, we are getting orders.

We don't know whether we're supposed to be arresting these

people or shooting these people.

The orders change all the time, depending on who's in charge

at the particular moment.

Uh, there's, there's an invisible line of control that the Palestinians

aren't supposed to cross.

Yes.

And, and if they do, depending on what the commander feels like at

this particular moment, we either arrest them or we shoot them.

Mm-hmm.

And just, you know, baby formula is being restricted or denied into Gaza.

So infant babies are just dying of starvation.

If you look anywhere on social media.

You can just see the most horrendous images of, of children begging for food.

They're scrawny, their, their ribs are sticking out.

They're just in a terrible state.

It's exactly the same.

It's exactly those pictures that motivated the world to feed Africa.

Yep.

It's, it's so in the eighties, you know, it's so openly documented, and

yet when people are protesting this.

They're the ones being investigated by police and and thrown in

jails, and the people committing it are given a scot-free ride.

Did you hear about Palestine action, uh, where the UK was prescribing

it as a terrorist organization?

Correct.

And then arrested a 83-year-old former priest.

Whilst she was protesting, were holding up a sign saying I support Palestine action.

So Palestine Action are a direct action group who have vandalized,

uh, basically sprayed paint.

So they're broke into an RAF base and sprayed paint into the engines of a

couple of refueling tankers, uh, and have attacked well, um, spray painted messages.

And I think.

I broke a fuse box on the factory that was making parts that were being

sent off to the IDFA few other things.

Mm-hmm.

So they have been listed as a prescribed organization, which basically means

that, uh, you can face up to 14 years in jail for supporting them

or encouraging people to join them.

It's all willian.

It really, it, it is incredible that we've reached this point and, um.

Yeah, it's, it's mind boggling.

And yet when you, you know, as you know, for my sins, I subscribe to

say the courier mail for weeks, months, years, nothing about.

These atrocities going on.

Nothing.

And yet.

A firebombing of a Of a Oh, yeah.

A Jewish synagogue.

A Jewish synagogue in Melbourne.

In Melbourne.

And, uh, demonstrators at a, at a Jewish restaurant and wall to wall coverage.

It's insane that these incidents.

The, the first 10 pages should be about the atrocities going on in

Gaza, and then a byline about what's going on in Australia and, and then

a more measured sort of understanding of why these things are happening.

So, for example, the, the restaurant, one of the owners is connected

with the group that is, um.

Involved in these strange aid centers where people are

getting killed in squid games.

So there's a connection there where people are quite possibly protesting

against that Zionist involvement rather than Jews in general.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

And then the other one, who knows what the story is there?

We've already seen false flag incidents in relation to that caravan.

Well, Netanyahu, uh, got on the blower, didn't he?

Yes.

Straight away.

Mm-hmm.

Um, the Australian government needs to do this.

It's an outrage, et cetera, but it could easily be some sort of false flag.

Who knows?

One lone person doing something, who knows.

So, uh, it's, it's.

Yeah, I just find the whole thing quite extraordinary.

So, uh, let me see here, just some of the notes that I might have.

Um, um, yeah, we sort of described that.

Let, let's just play a little clip of the sort of debate that's

going on in Great Britain at the moment over this sort of thing.

I start by saying I do not endorse what Bob Villain said.

I think the chant has just helped nobody.

It was, it was just a really stupid thing to do.

I understand why there's a lot of anger, but let's just talk about Lisa,

Andy here, Anky star, and just this incredible selective outrage, which

I find impossible to stomach, right?

She finds it in her heart to, to rush, to parliament, to stand up,

to question and demand answers from A, B, B, C, allowing this.

This streaming of this band making this chant, she doesn't rush to

parliament to demand answers and concrete action on the actions that

we are seeing live stream to us daily.

Of the IDF who are committing alleged war crimes at the direction of their

Prime Minister Nya, who has an arrest warrant out for, again, war crimes.

Is that Anci?

Hang on.

Just let's just get a, I hear you and I, I understand what you're saying.

Completely Anci.

What's your response there?

How can you be, how can sort be outraged again about villain and not outraged

about people being shot up in food queues?

Uh, it, it is a very different thing to call for the deaths of our allies, armed

forces that is going against our country.

One second.

Hang on.

Interest, and it is calling for people okay.

To be killed.

But the IDF are snipering children in our heads.

Whether you like it or not, just listen to me.

Israel are one of our allies.

So sorry.

So if they're so because they're ally.

Hang on Marie, just one sec. Just one.

Let let Anci say her thing.

There are still hostages being held from a festival, not dissimilar to

Glastonbury, standing for peace where the people attending were attacked, killed,

raped, disgusting, and taken, taken.

Hostly Marina, let Marina talk, sorry.

Children are paying the price and are we saying that because there

are allies we have to stand by as they sniper kids in their head?

And Hamas are using the humans in Gaza as human shields.

They're using the people on the, do you understand?

Lemme hang on.

Lemme show latest on this.

Hang on.

I know, I know how

That gives you a bit of a flavor of the sort of arguments, the,

the argument that Hamas are using the prisoners as human shields.

It doesn't make sense because clearly the Israelis are not paying any

attention to them as a, it's not like for one minute they've gone, well,

we won't bomb that place 'cause we think one of our prisoners are there.

Like, it's impossible to use these people as a human shield.

This isn't collateral damage.

This isn't, oops.

I was shooting at terrorist and the bullet mist.

Yes, this is, I'm deliberately shooting at people walking down the street.

Yep.

I'm deliberately shooting doctors and nurses 'cause I know

they're treating Palestinians.

I'm deliberately shooting journalists 'cause I know that they're reporting on

what we're up to and I'm deliberately shooting kids, um, because I don't

want the growing up to be adults.

It's not about shooting at a mass.

It's imp.

The argument of human shields is complete nonsense because

never once have they stopped.

So supposedly 'cause of a human shield and this argument

that, well, they're our allies.

Well then they just shouldn't be your allies.

When your allies are doing shit like this, they, you say, well, we

don't want you as an ally anymore.

Or, or at the very least, you should be calling them out on that.

Yes, friends tell friends when they're being pricks.

Allies should tell allies when they're being, they're pricks.

Yeah.

When they're committing, I don't know, genocide.

Genocide.

Just let's say our morality got to in the world when somebody can, she's the

sister of Reese MOG Jones or whatever.

Somebody like that.

Like just such upper class English.

Jacob Reese, mog.

Yes, I think, I think that woman is his sister.

But just finding people who will get onto these panels and, and spruik.

The Israeli side, there's no shortage of them.

What?

Which I find it's one of those things, incredible things.

It is really disturbing actually, that you do have people like

that, that are prepared to stand up and say this sort of nonsense.

Yeah.

You know, it, um, makes absolutely no sense to me.

Yeah.

So, um,

what else we say here?

Um, uh.

Yeah, just, just the misplaced outrage that is going on over these chants

compared to the lack of outrage, uh, in relation to the genocide itself.

Yeah.

Incidentally, guys, um, apparently, um.

The Israelis have a march that they do through Jerusalem regularly,

um, calling for the death.

Ooh, do they?

Yes.

Um, it's a regular sort of thing, but calling for the death of No, I,

I gotta be sure what I'm saying here.

I'll leave that one till I know the exact wording.

So, um, a video has come out, which the BBC was supposed to.

Air but did not.

And, uh, let me just see what it's called.

Um, documentary Gaza is Under Attack.

Have you guys heard of this?

Uh, is this the one with, uh, the famous interviewer?

Uh, because they've taken down at least three documentaries recently.

Um, uh, this one, um.

Uh, also has new footage, I think, of the IDF soldiers raping

a Palestinian, um, prisoner.

But, um, uh, the BBC refused to, to, um, air it, air it,

and our a, b, C won't air it.

And um, in the show notes, dear listener, I'll have a link to where you can

watch that so I have yet to see it, but people say it's quite compelling.

Louis Thru was who I was thinking of, and there's another documentary that was

taken down that I've got an archive of.

Yeah, I don't think this was Louis Thru, but, uh, okay.

Um, a fairly Lewis through and the Settlers, I think it's called.

Yes, I've seen that one.

Okay.

That's that's very good.

Yeah, because that one here gets the settlers themselves.

It's their own admissions about Mm, absolutely.

Their craziness.

So, um, so yeah.

Right.

Um, what else have I got here?

Uh, of course, I mentioned journalists get bombed.

There was a cafe which was just full of journalists, and the reason was

that it was one of the few places with.

Semi reliable internet, and the Israelis just dropped abominate and

killed scores of, um, uh, journalists.

Like they're targeting doctors and journalists because of,

uh, the bad publicity, uh, that they get from these people.

Was it, what's that?

Were they Arab journalists that were killed, or were they, um, internationals.

Yeah.

So there probably would've been some Europeans amongst

that, that were killed too.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Um, the UN Special Rapport Tour, Francesca Albanese, no

relation to, um, our albanese.

She produced a 28 page report to the Human Rights Council, basically documenting

how corporations are involved in the genocide and how one of the reasons why

this is continuing is because, uh, it's profitable for so many companies to be.

Promoting, uh, the whole exercise that Israel's on.

So she names and shames a whole bunch of, uh, corporations, many of them US based.

I'll give you one guess of what the US response was.

Uh, put her on a watch list.

She should be sacked from her role with the UN and all of our

US companies are perfectly fine.

Thank you very much.

That was, yeah.

So that was.

That was the, you know, the answer there, you know, does our

government make any comment on it?

Uh, not at all.

No.

Yep.

Not at all.

It's also in Netanyahu's interest because apparently he's up for bribery charges.

Yes.

So it can't be happening whilst he's, um, prime Minister.

Prime Minister.

Mm-hmm.

And whilst there's a war on, he can't.

Step down from being Prime Minister.

No.

It's one of those things like that's why they reckon those right wing nut

jobs in his cabinet have got so much power because all they've gotta do is

threaten to walk away, which will end up collapsing the government, which

means he's out of office, which means he is subject to criminal prosecution.

Yes.

One of those right wing nutters, av Ben Ari, she said.

The children in Gaza brought it upon themselves.

Oh really?

Yeah.

How'd they bring it upon themselves?

Well, you know, it's by being Palestinian, it's like the children, by choosing to

be PA who were raped by Catholic priests, they seduced the priests, you know?

Yes.

They brought it along the, upon themselves.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Ah, dear.

I mean, you see just some terrible things on Twitter, just terrible things.

One is just a guy walking down a. A, an alley a street, like every building

in the street is just rubble almost.

He's got a sack of flower over his shoulder as he is

trudging down the street.

He's totally alone.

You're watching him there and all of a sudden there's just this

massive explosion because they've just dropped a bomb on him.

Uh, and he just disintegrates into a thousand pieces.

Well, he had automatic weapons hidden in the bag of flour.

They, they couldn't be sure.

Yeah, well,

assuming any of these Palestinian kids do grow up, those that aren't maimed,

they're going be the first ones joining Hamas, and they're gonna be, they're

going to be indoctrinated in Hamas and they're going to take the Hamas lead

and all, all Israel has done is just created the next generation of terrorists.

And it's been going on for how old's Israel?

80 odd years.

Mm. You know, and it's just the one time they actually got close to it was

when, um, the Prime Minister who was assassinated Rabin, when he actually had

those, when he had those talks with the Palestinians and he, uh, the Nor Oslo

agreements and everything else when they were signed, and he actually started

to work towards a two state solution.

That was the only time that there was any sort of hope.

But because he was assassinated by that nutter, the whole thing fell over.

You know, with the whole coverage of this, like, I, I always expect

the worst of the Murdoch press.

Mm-hmm.

And what used to be the Fairfax Press and Kerry Stokes's Mob and the New York

Times and those, but I kind of expected, or hoped for better from groups like.

The B, B, C and the A, B, C, and they're just as bad.

Mm-hmm.

You know, the, it's interesting, it makes me wonder whether or not the

politicians have got them, have got them by on a very short lead and just telling

them, you can't actually say that.

Well, in the BBC, um, you know, the evidence was that the sort

of editorial control mm-hmm.

From within the BBC was basically by a sort of a pro Zionist guy

who was completely dominating.

What coverage came out?

Nothing could be printed, uh, or said in the BBC about Gaza without his approval.

And uh, and here in Australia we haven't had a similar all encompassing guy in

charge, but there was the original, original sort of direction, you can't

use the genocide word for example.

Mm-hmm.

And, um, and that journalist Latu, who was just.

Had three shifts left and got sacked by the A, B, C because she posted on

Twitter on her own private account.

Mm-hmm.

Something supportive of, of the Palestinians.

And eventually I think it said something genocide.

And she said, well, that was in our report referring to a genocide

in a UN report or something.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And the ABC sector, and of course that's gone through the courts and she's since

in the last week, come out with a victory.

Um, so, so our own a, b, c public broadcaster couldn't be fair and

impartial in relation to this.

And even, you know, uh, if you watched the seven 30 report or

listened to Late Night Live, you would've heard Laura Tingle talking.

She's like the employee representative on the board, and, and she

was in favor of the sacking.

Mm. So, my God.

I just

gotta go with group think.

What a, so this just, our media is just terrible.

I, you know, and that's just on Gaza, of course, like, don't get me started up on

the A, B, C and it's reporting of China.

But we'll get onto that another time.

But, uh, I don't know guys.

I mean, I'm ready to move on to, to the, uh, the Disunited States of America.

Um, yeah, uh, unless you had any other.

Tales of woe to give about Gaza, but it's um, uh, yeah, in the chat room, Alex

says, time to unfriend the baby killers.

Yeah.

We don't need allies like that.

It's just, um, yeah.

Yeah.

You know, you see old labor guys like Doug Cameron making comments saying,

what's happened to my Labor party?

What are we doing?

Why is Albanese not doing something, blah, blah, blah, like.

Guys like him would still have the ability to get on the phone

and talk to people like Albanese.

They're obviously just not able to cut through to these guys and tell them, you

are mad, you are against public sentiment.

What are you doing?

And they cut through like just,

yeah, it's as if there's an Epstein file on every single one of 'em.

Or something.

Well, no, there's no Epstein file on anybody.

No.

The apparently.

Hmm.

Otherwise Elon would've released it if there was No, no, no, no.

But, um, cash patal and, uh, whatever other conspiracy theorist who's

now second in charge of the FBI.

Right.

I've come out and gone.

Nothing to see here, honestly.

Move along, move along.

Oh, in that case, all good?

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yep.

So, um, so yeah, Elon, who's had a fallout with, uh, Donald Trump, and that

has been beautiful to watch, hasn't it?

Mm-hmm.

He's decided he's gonna start a new political party.

Yes.

He spent a lot of time, I think about the name, and he called it America Party.

Mm-hmm.

It is one of those things he must understand that because they don't have

preferential voting, all it's gonna do is destroy the Republican's hopes, isn't it?

Uh, we can only hope.

Yes.

The shovel came out that, that's assuming that there's gonna

be an election anytime soon.

Good point.

Yes.

Yeah.

They pesky those elections.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Uh, cl uh, the shovel came out with the headline.

Clive Palmer buys, uh, Australian Electoral Commission Rights to America.

Party.

Party.

Yeah.

The next Australian election.

I wouldn't be surprised.

Yeah.

Um.

New York Mayor, Democrat, nominee Zoran man.

Oh yes, Danny.

Um, Donald Trump's not happy about him.

Uh, no.

He's trying to revoke his citizenship.

Yes.

So, um, um, in his term, why?

Because he is left wing.

Because he's a social democrat.

'cause he wants to tax rich people, particularly rich people in New York

city of which Donald Trump, if he ever leaves the White House will be one.

And I'm pretty, I'm pretty sure he is one of those brown people as well.

Mm-hmm.

So, no.

Yeah, he was born in Africa, I think somewhere.

Mm-hmm.

So Donald Trump said that he should be arrested, deported de naturalized.

Um, yeah.

So.

In a tweet, president, uh, Trump says, as president of the United

States, I'm not going to let this communist lunatic destroy New York.

Rest assured I hold all the levers and have all the cards.

I'll save New York City and make it hot and great again, just

like I did with the good old USA.

Can.

Can we talk about.

The failure of democracy, Scott?

Yeah.

He's completely delusional

and I just don't understand what was going through the American's head,

you know, because like my friends over there are absolutely appalled

Mm. At the shit he's coming out with.

Mm. But then there are others that still love him, and I just don't understand why.

Well, because he's keeping brown people out.

Well, that must be the only thing that he's actually doing because it's just,

he's trading on their fears that have been created by a propaganda machine.

Well, and and also he's stopping the flow of fentanyl.

Yes.

Another fear from Canada.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I know.

And that was ridiculous too because, you know, they, they

had, um, they did the numbers and that sort of stuff, and it was.

What was less than, less than half of 1% of the, of the total fentanyl was

coming across their border, wasn't it?

Probably.

Yeah.

And, and also don't forget, he's, uh, introduced tax cuts.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, say what?

You like Scott, about authoritarian regimes, but they, there's no way

they would allow a nin and poop like Donald Trump to get in charge.

No.

They've allowed Vladimir Putin to stay in charge.

Yeah, but he's not a nin and poop.

No, he is not an idiot, but idiot.

Have, have you seen, um, the new budget Ice has a bigger amount of money to

spend than the Russian Army, really?

No.

Really?

Yep.

So the, the number of dollars is greater than the Russian Army

just for ice, not for any other, uh, law enforcement department.

So, you know, brown people turn up to standard court cases of different types.

Mm-hmm.

And, and then as they exit, get black bagged exit and enter the hallway.

There's a bunch of ice agents there.

And these guys are wearing masks.

Mm. No.

Identification of who they are.

They could be just some sort of criminal gang.

And this has already happened.

Yes.

And they take these guys and shuffle 'em into a, um, the

elevator and, oh, whoof off they go.

Like, uh, some people have said this is very much like the storm AB Thailand,

which was the German thing.

Brown shirts.

Right.

So his private army?

Yes.

The SA that died in the night of the long knives.

Yeah.

Well, their leadership died in the night of the long lives, but most

of them were then sent over to the army and everything else, you know?

Yeah.

Absorbed.

Hmm.

Yeah.

But yeah, it's basically, uh, Trump's private army of thugs.

Yes.

It's uh, just.

Yeah, I mean, uh, you see continuing stories of people being told, um, not

to travel to America now because Yeah.

They'll look at your phone and, and when social media,

I'm not gonna travel America.

I'll not travel.

I'll not travel there until that bastard is out of ulcers.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

It'd be crazy.

I, she said to, I said to one of my friends over there, I said, look,

Brian and I are gonna go to Canada.

Next time.

So if you want to come up to Canada and visit us there, that's no problem at all.

Mm. But I'm not gonna cross the border into America, you know?

Mm. It's, and you know, there, there are all sorts of horror stories going

on about, um, you know, there was a woman that was turned around at the

airport because she had too much baggage.

Now she was already married to an American citizen, and she was just,

she wasn't actually moving over there.

She was just carrying bags over there.

And they turned around because as far as they were concerned, you,

you wouldn't arrive with so much luggage if you weren't, unless you

were planning on moving there, right?

Yeah.

And she said, well, my husband's actually an American officer in

the, in the, um, in the Navy.

Yes.

And they still turned around.

Yeah.

So I just, I just don't understand where the hell it's coming from.

Now, if this is the way they treat us.

Hmm.

God knows how the hell they're treating people that don't look like us.

Mm. You know, I, I cannot understand why the hell anyone would ever

want to travel to that country.

Hmm.

Well if you are, uh, if you are one of those illegal aliens, you'll end up in,

um, what was the term for the Alcatraz?

Uh, alligator Alcatraz.

Alligator Alcatraz.

Yeah.

For God's sake.

And, um, people were saying, you know, at least the Ss weren't selling,

um, Auschwitz Memorial t-shirts.

True.

They had some standards.

Yes.

So, of course the problem for the Americans.

Uh, economy and the farming industry is you need these pesky brown people

for pick, for picking the crops.

Mm-hmm.

And for working in restaurants and for cleaning and for, uh, running

your hospitals and for Yes, exactly.

It's just that.

Um, so Trump was asked along these lines.

Now this particular clip, the sound isn't great.

I hope the sound's good enough for it, but we'll just play a

bit and see how it turns out.

I have the idea of finding some way to get a farm workforce and service sector

workforce, and I think you've discussed somehow a program of people leaving on

a sponsorship and coming right back.

Can you give us a little more detail about that and why in the view, some hardliners,

it's not am take care of our farm.

And hotel workers and various other people, and we're working on it right

now and Ron's gonna be involved.

And you are involved already.

So we have a case where a lot of cases where ICE will go into a

farm and these are guys working there for 10, 15 years, no problem.

The farmers know we're gonna put, it's called farmer responsibility or

owner responsibility, where they're gonna be largely responsible for these

people and they know these people.

They've worked owner responsibility and the farm.

Yes.

15 years and all of a sudden they, so I have a great, uh, Ron does, Christie does.

We have a great feeling for the farmer and for others in the same position, and

we're gonna give them responsibility for people, and we're gonna have a system of

signing them up so they don't have to go.

They can be here legally.

They can pay taxes and everything.

They're not getting citizenship, but they get other things and the

farmers need them to do the work.

Without those people, you're not gonna be able to.

Yeah.

So, um, if the farmer vouchers for them Mm. Or the owner, uh, yeah, exactly.

The owner of them.

Vouchers for them.

If they, if their master says they're being good.

Yeah.

Little brown people and haven't been too uppity.

Then they'll be allowed to stay.

Stay.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Did that sound like that's, that's exactly what, not exaggerating.

It wasn't.

That's exactly what it sounded like.

You know, they, like, they're bringing back slavery.

Exactly.

And it's, you know, having said, oh, they're not gonna be citizens.

No.

You know, it's just that they'll be able to work on the farm picking that cotton.

Yeah.

Jesus.

Goodness.

I, you know.

Oh, anyway.

For a country that has so much to be proud of, they've also got a

hell of a lot to be ashamed of.

They're completely down and this, this idiot is just turning them backwards.

You know, he's taking them well beyond Lyndon Bain's Johnson.

He's taking them back further.

You know, he is though.

Just a natural progression of where the American experiment was always heading.

And, uh, so it's not like he's, um, sent it in a direction that

it wasn't always gonna go the way things are set up over there.

So maybe he's a bit of an accelerant, but, um, yeah.

Well, I mean, yeah.

Uh, I, I had someone interviewed who said, you know, what would

you do if you were made president?

And he went, the problem isn't the president.

The problem is everything that allows the president to be elected and,

you know, all of the, the checks and balances that no longer exist.

The Supreme Court, that's just rubber stamping King Trump.

Uh.

Yep.

The system, the Senate and the Congress that are rubber stamping King Trump.

Yeah.

Everything is so corrupt.

You need to tear it down and start again.

It's the same with Israel.

You could get rid of Netanyahu and you could get rid of the entire cabinet, but

the attitudes from polls that we've seen of the Israeli population is that you

would end up with exactly the same, the same problem type of people in charge.

Again, it's.

It's systemic.

It's not, it's not People, people and, and people complain about Trump.

Biden had four years, admittedly to, with a, a, an unfriendly congress, but

at least two years that he could have pushed through a whole load of legislative

changes to stop that happening again.

Mm. Nothing happened.

I just think that, um, Biden probably honestly didn't think that anyone would

actually try and do what Trump has done.

You know, well, the, the fact that he attempted in the first

place should have been enough to put up some steel walls around.

Exactly, yeah.

And he said what he was gonna do.

Yeah.

None of this is a surprise.

Mm-hmm.

Well, it is to the people who aren't paying attention, who are only listening

to, but he says it like it is, you know?

Yeah.

He says what I want to hear.

Yeah.

The fact that he's a lying con man.

Mm. Of course.

Never forget the influence of religion on this whole bunch.

And, uh, well, true.

And Scott, you've, although the, the whole abortion thing was a placeholder.

Mm-hmm.

Because they, they hated segregation, but they couldn't say they hated segregation

because that would be being racist.

So they had to dream up an excuse, and abortion was the excuse that they were

using as a placeholder for segregation.

I. Yes.

Yep.

So abortion may have been repealed, but don't worry, segregation will come soon.

Yeah.

It's one of those things like, you know, the, the, um, loving

versus whatever, Virginia.

Virginia, yeah.

You know, I could actually see that being overturned.

Oh, absolutely.

Um, now God knows how they're gonna do that.

'cause Clarence Thomas is a black man that's married to a white woman.

Well, but that's, uh, loving versus Virginia.

Wasn't that um, gay marriage or was that No, that was, that was, um, miscegenation.

That was inter interracial marriage.

Yeah.

Miscegenation.

Mm-hmm.

So he's, he said that was the only one that he didn't want

to repeal strangely enough.

Oh, that was Tom Clarence, Clarence Thomas.

Yeah.

Clarence Thomas said, you know, uh, gay marriage was up for, uh, yeah, it was

up to, it was up to be looked at again.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Uh, and listed all these things strangely enough, uh, loving versus Virginia wasn't.

Mm-hmm.

Look, we're saying a lot of bad things, but we've gotta

remember it's a special country.

It's very, it's very special.

Just see, I'm gonna show you how special they are.

Possess our rights.

See, the, the, the powerful thing about that is we're the first nation in the

history of the world that acknowledge that our rights do not derive from government.

They come from God himself,

God's sake.

Yeah.

You see that, that, uh.

Those, those words up there, that motto, it says, in God, we trust right

above the speaker's rostom, you know, a previous Congress put that there in the

early sixties in the height of the Cold War there, there's a little, uh, uh,

visitor's guide that people get when, when you do tours late at night, you,

you've probably seen your constituents and visitors and friends get the guide if

you turn, I think it's about to page 21.

It explains why that's there, and it says, Congress voted to put that

there as a rebuke to the Soviet's worldview at the height of the Cold War.

Why?

Because.

Communism, socialism find their root in Marxism.

And Marxism begins with the belief that there is no God.

It's wrong.

And this Congress made us stand those many years ago, and we should do it again.

That's good stuff.

We're different.

We're distinct, we're exceptional because we acknowledge that right there.

Our motto

that's, this is the speaker of the House, by the way.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

What's his name?

Johnson, I think.

Something like that.

Yeah.

Well, he is a bit of a dick.

He doesn't say in government.

We trust he idiot.

He says, in God we trust.

And we better remember,

of course, they replaced the original motto, which was epl.

Baum comes as of many come one

because you wouldn't want to say that we are, we are people from all

nations and we are one united country.

We, we have to be a theocracy instead.

Yeah.

They've really gotta change the name to the, this United States of America.

Really?

Well the theocratic states of America.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Ah, I just love, there was something that I saw on Instagram.

Oh, hang on.

Scott disappeared.

Yeah, the Graham just recently one.

It's.

You disappeared just briefly, but it's like your internet got

a little, but now you're back.

So, okay, just start again.

I saw something on Instagram fairly recently.

It was just a meme that was up there and it said that, um.

Uh, Handmaid's Tale was a work of fiction, not a, not a, um,

not an instruction manual.

You know, it's just one of those things.

And I, I said to you and your Mrs. A little while ago, Trevor, I said, you

know, I think that America was two, possibly three bad decisions away

from becoming the Republic of Gilead.

And I think we've had those first two bad decisions.

Two or three elections.

Yeah.

Well, the first two bad decisions were, um, the.

So the one that said that, um, corporations could have

opinions and that sort of stuff.

Oh yeah.

And the second one was the, um, citizens United.

Citizens United.

The second one was the, um, abortion case.

And the third one will be if they actually allow Trump to go for a third term.

Th this, this, this whole ice agent's just coming and abducting people.

Mm, I know.

And spiriting them away.

That that's straight out of that sort of dystopian.

Exactly.

Including American citizens who are lawyers, representing people who've been

up in front of the, uh, what's it called?

The court, the migration court.

Right.

Yeah.

There, there was a guy who was literally just grabbed by ICE agents and he's

going, I'm an American citizen.

What are you arresting me for?

And they just refused to say anything.

A and threatened anybody who tried to intervene.

Yes.

But didn't show any, ID, didn't, uh, identify themselves.

It was literally just black bag the guy.

Yes.

Disappear him off into detention somewhere.

You see, this is why we'll never travel.

This is why I won't travel to the United States while they've got

this sort of garbage going on.

And yeah, it's like we were saying off air, you know, I've, I've

begun to question the relevance of our alliance with them.

You know, it's, um, please tell me you've gone more than that, Scott.

Like, please tell me.

I've gone, I've, I have been, you've, I've been questioning it for a long

time, but now it's getting more and more serious because I don't

think we can trust him anymore.

You know, it's, um, I would've thought that.

Over East Timor and that sort of stuff.

That should have been enough for us to realize that the Yanks are

not going to come down to our aid.

I, I've certainly heard that our intelligence agencies are being

very, very circumspect about what information is being shared with.

Well, that doesn't surprise me at all, and I just think to myself,

the five eyes agreement, you could probably turn that into a four eyes

agreement, you know, where you don't have the Yanks involved anymore.

I.

And, um, that's one of those things that the, the Americans

have done it to themselves.

No one else has done it to them.

They've done it to themselves.

And, you know, I, I just also find it ridiculous that, um, I.

Elon Musk is responsible for the space program now.

You know, he's a, he's a private contractor and everything else,

and he's Well, and you wonder how much longer because Yeah, I know.

Which is one of those things that if the, if, if Trump decides to

actually pull the funding from it.

Well, Trump has said to Doge, why don't you look at all the money

that Elon's getting, if you wanna save some government dollars.

Mm-hmm.

But you know, the whole idea of small government is that you outsource

things to the private enterprise who are far more efficient.

Yeah.

So if you've got a.

If you, well, you've gotta pay them, but of course you'd be paying them a

lot less than if you had in-house public servants, fat cats that you had to pay.

So, but those in-house public servants are responsible for

the iPhone and everything else.

You know, it was, well, actually, they are.

Yes.

A lot of government funded research went into the iPhone.

I know it did.

Yes.

You know, it's.

A, a lot of government funded research ended up being given away for free mm-hmm.

For Apple to take the patents on and sue anybody who tried to copy it.

Exactly.

Yes.

Maria Mat or something like that.

Yes.

We did a, we did her at one stage.

Yeah.

But, um, uh, uh, I've lost track.

I was gonna say something there, but I've, I've, I've lost track.

You, you heard about the Texas floods.

Uh, yeah.

Trump was playing golf at the time in Florida immediately after

Trump has cut the, the Federal Weather Service or whatever it was.

Yeah.

Yes.

And now they didn't have any warning of the floods were

coming and he was asked about it.

Yep.

Pardon?

And asked whether his cuts, pardon?

Couldn't, couldn't, couldn't hear that.

No, no, no.

You missed what he said.

Oh, he said, oh, that was Biden's fault.

That was Biden's program.

Oh, okay.

He blamed Biden, of course, he.

Yeah.

Uh, just, and yeah, the, the more you hear about the big beautiful bill where they've

given tax cuts all around, although poor people will be getting absolutely nothing

outta the tax cuts, uh, but they've done it by increasing the federal deficit.

Yes.

Which, as they say, means that everyone's gonna be paying for it in the future, but

probably, oh, the, the first round of.

Big impacts don't happen until after the midterm elections.

Mm-hmm.

Which is the whole sort of deficit thing was the reason that Elon

Musk supposedly didn't like it.

Yeah.

Yes.

But, but, but I thought there was so much there for just the rich

billionaire class in tax breaks that No, he didn't like it because he wasn't

allowed to have his pick for the head of NASA in the big, beautiful bill.

Yeah, there was something about Oh, okay, that's why he had his

big meltdown was because he wasn't something personal like that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Nothing to do with the economics of it.

And, and then the big beautiful Bill, I believe, was something

to do with the fact that, um, EVs were losing their federal funding.

Ah, but the fossil fuel manufacturers weren't.

That would be it.

That would make, that would make sense.

That would make sense.

So, yeah, that makes sense.

Hmm.

Um, uh, you know, Trump really wants a Nobel Peace Prize.

I know.

And God knows why.

He's just, he's, he's gonna get won over, um, uh, the Iran, um, Israel war.

Yes.

'cause he managed to stop it in its tracks.

Stop his track.

He bombed the Iranians.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But that caused that.

After that there's peace.

They, they came begging to him.

They said, please, Mr. President, you are so wonderful ple.

Please can we have some peace?

This, this is a genuine tweet from Donald Trump, which is a read or awe truth.

Uh, our tweet.

Uh, well, it's a truth.

Yeah.

Um, yeah, truth.

Thank you.

I'm very happy to report that I have arranged along with Secretary of State,

Marco Rubio, a wonderful treaty between.

The Democratic Republic of Congo and the Republic of Rwanda in their war,

which was known for violent bloodshed and death, more so even than most

other wars and has gone on for decades.

Representatives from Rwanda and the Congo will be in Washington

on Monday to sign documents.

This is a great day for Africa and quite frankly, a great day for the world.

I won't get a Nobel Peace Prize for this.

I won't get a Nobel Peace Prize for stopping the war

between India and Pakistan.

I won't get a Nobel Peace Prize for stopping the war

between Serbia and Kosovo.

I won't get a Nobel Peace Prize for keeping peace between Egypt and Ethiopia.

A massive Ethiopian built dam stupidly financed by the United States of

America substantially reduces the water flowing into the Nile River, and

I won't get a Nobel Peace Prize for doing the Abraham Accords in the Middle

East, which if all goes well, will be loaded to the brim with additional

countries signing on, and we'll unify the Middle East for the first time in.

The ages.

No, I won't get a Nobel Peace Prize no matter what I do, including Russia

slash Ukraine and Israel, Iran, whatever those outcomes may be.

But the people know, and that's all that matters to me.

Bullshit.

What did the ravings of a lunatic and, and a mega maniac?

I read, I, I read the, the fucking news court.

Newspapers and oh, Trump demands that we increase our

GDP, uh, our defense spending.

Yeah, 5% of gdp, P 5% of gdp, DP, and we need to prove our

bonafide days to Donald Trump.

And Albanese should just say yes.

And oh, if we don't, we may not get our submarines as well.

Like, like if you thought the submarine deal was bad.

Mm-hmm.

It is.

Now, in order to get our submarines, not only do we have to pay the price of these,

the ridiculous price of the submarines, we're never gonna get, and, and also fund

that shipyards, now we've gotta actually increase our GDP defense spending.

You just cannot believe it.

And, and this, this.

Stupid diabolical monster over there is making these demands.

And our mainstream media here is going well.

We better, uh, we better do what Donald says.

'cause you never know.

Maybe he won't be our friend anymore.

We won't be able to rely on the Americans in the event that, uh, those

horrible Chinese come and invade us.

It's just, we've never been able to rely on the Americans anyway.

You know, it's, they should actually, if they actually read

Ansys, they would see that, um.

It says that, uh, the there is no guarantee of support.

There is only a guarantee that yeah, there's no article five, no each,

each country will go back and discuss it in terms of their own democracy.

So, you know, it's, it's a ridiculous article.

Five is no guarantee.

Uh, I'm sure Europe is going.

We can't guarantee that America will exactly defend us.

Which is why France is now talking about extending their own nuclear

umbrella to project all of Europe.

Yep.

You know, um, the British nuclear umbrella, they can't use without

the American saying so can they?

Well, there's questions about that.

Okay.

The, the Brits claim.

Yes.

But, so basically the Trident missiles are leased from America mm-hmm.

And are rotated in and out, so they have to be.

Maintained.

So they get shipped off to America and then refurbished ones come back.

And so there's questions because they're leased as to exactly

what the chain of command is to, to use those nuclear missiles.

Hmm.

And is that all, is that All the British have got is it is Trident missile, so they

decided that it was more cost effective.

To enter a shared agreement with the Americans.

Yeah.

And the, the whole submarine launch nuclear missiles was

deemed as the most effective.

That, that, because you could hide them anywhere in the ocean and launched them,

and therefore they couldn't be taken out by a first strike.

Mm. And so if if we were doing that, then you might as well uh, enter into a joint

agreement with, I mean, um, the reason why America manages to outspend Europe other

than spending lots of money is the fact that America is a single country, whereas

the European Union slash the rest of nato, uh, all have their own defense departments

who are all arguing for different things.

And there is no overarching, we are buying a thousand of these tanks.

We're gonna get a big discount.

And then each country gets however many of that batch of a thousand.

No, it's um.

It is one of those things like, you know, I was very amused when I saw the, when I

saw a tweet from a German guy who said, um, now I just wanna get this straight.

You want a German army to march and invade Russia?

You know, I just wanna get this straight, you know?

Yeah.

Through Poland or something like that.

Yeah.

Go, no, go to Ukraine and invade Russia.

You know, which is exactly what Hitler tried, you know?

Mm-hmm.

Anyway, gentlemen, we have, uh, ranted about crazy, uh, Israelis and Zionists.

We've ranted about, uh, a crazy media that is.

Talking about the people who object to the genocide rather than the genocide itself.

Mm-hmm.

And we've ranted about a democracy in the United States of America,

which has produced, uh, a complete nutcase that we knew there was, was,

I mean, we saw it all the first time.

It's no surprise, but the way the system worked, that's what we ended up with.

The only people talking sense in this world.

Authoritarian regimes, Scott, like China, who were denouncing

what the Israelis are doing.

Um, sort of the global south, the South American, Latin American, uh,

Africa, Asia, you know, basically outside of liberal western democracies.

They're the ones talking sense.

Yeah.

So next podcast I do, I'm gonna talk about the China model, uh, written

by Daniel Bell, no relation, uh, which examines, um, basically, uh.

Chinese democracy, uh, which is sort of democracy at a local village level and a

meritocracy at the top versus democracies and whether lessons can be learned.

So yes, I, I, I think we, we should have landed on for that.

Landon Hardbottom?

Yes.

He's currently in Australia.

Is he?

Oh, well he'll have to listen to that one.

Um, yeah.

Might be an audio only one.

That one.

So anyway, well, that's enough for this episode.

Um, you guys around next week, Scott, you gallivanting around visiting any

other, uh, have you visit many more of these communist countries, Scott?

Uh, well then you'll get a black mark on your passport.

They'll be questioning you.

Well, I'm not gonna to go back into the United States anytime soon.

Doing this podcast has totally ruled you out.

It has.

You know, because I just think to myself that, you know, if they're gonna look

at my social media and anything else, they, no, they're just not gonna have me.

No.

Which is fine, you know?

Yeah.

You know, Scott, if you were flying in a plane somewhere around the world and, um.

You know, we used to joke if, you know, if we were flying over Iran and the plane,

you know, developed, um, uh, mechanical failure and had to land in an emergency

situation in Iran, we'd be like, holy shit, we're gonna be in trouble here.

You know, if the same happened in your flight to Canada where you

are going over America and you,

and there is a problem with the, with the aircraft and has to do

with, well I end up getting arrested, I could end up getting arrested.

You know, some of those wacky Middle East countries, I'd almost prefer to land.

Mm-hmm.

Then, uh, the United States of America, under the current.

Regime.

Regime, yeah.

Is operating there.

So, yeah.

So, alright.

Uh, green apple Catt said thanks guys.

Thank you.

Green apple Catt.

So.

Alright, we will be back next week cataloging the further

demise of civilization that takes place over the next seven days.

Until then, bye for now and it's a good night from me and

it's a good night from him.

Good night.