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Now from the Turn It Don't Burnet studios in Portland.

Here's jt.

This is an encore.

Hey, everybody.

Welcome to the nation.

That's Barbecue Nation.

I'm jt.

My co host and co pilot Leanne is off working for PepsiCo this week.

I believe her and her sister do these food styling gigs for big commercial television shoots and stuff, and so that's what she's doing.

She ran away from home, but I don't blame her for that.

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Well, we've got a friend of the show is back today.

Stan Hayes, the CEO and co founder of Operation Barbecue Relief.

I always enjoy talking to Stan because they do such great, great work.

Truly.

Truly.

We don't have that many disasters, if you will, up here in the Northwest.

You know, hurricanes, floods, that type of thing.

Little flood once in a while.

But in the Midwest, the South, and in other parts of the world, Stan and his crew are there.

Hey, welcome back, bud.

Thank you so much for having me back on.

I appreciate it.

You know, I'm honored to, you know, continue to be invited back.

Not a problem.

You.

You.

You and I both like to talk, so it's easy, easy to fill up the hour.

OBR has been really busy.

I follow you online, of course, and I, I talk to you a couple times a year and that.

But what have you guys been doing lately?

I mean, last time you were on, we talked about the camp, and I.

And I know you've made a lot of progress on that.

You've got a benefit golf tournament coming up with some stuff.

You're.

You're looking for a director of.

I don't want to say the title wrong, Stan.

You can say it.

Yeah, it's.

It's really Director of Disaster.

We call it Director of Disaster because they do more than just culinary.

But it's a very, you know, Director of Disaster.

Culinary is.

Is how it started.

But that position gets into more operational pieces than just the.

The food service side.

So, you know, it's a very culinary heavy position.

We're looking for somebody that, you know, obviously understands the volume and, but has some experience.

Not necessarily all disaster experience, but understands also menu planning and and scalability.

Right, right.

That's a, that's a huge deal.

I'll tell you a quick story.

Years ago, I worked for an overseas firm that bought, they bought a ranch and they did this big essay contest in their country and in this country.

And they brought in like, I don't know, it's about 100 kids.

Okay.

And I was the resident wrangler for a couple weeks there for him because I was a horse guy.

Right.

The amount of food that they brought in, they brought in two semis full of food, Stan, and it was incredible.

And then they got rained out, so they left it all.

And we donated most of it to charity and stuff.

But that really struck a chord with me of planning and not knowing they could have had 300 kids there and they wouldn't have eaten all this food in 10 days, you know what I mean?

So I think that's an integral part

of it, you know.

It is.

And you know, we used to, we used to start out with rolling, you know, a couple of semis, but, you know, in our planning process, we're about 10 semis deep.

When we start looking, especially on a major disaster, a big hurricane coming in or, you know, a big tornado, that just happens.

You know, you mentioned, you know, up in your area, I mean, really, your area is wildfires and occasional flood and, and wildfires and floods are very much the same in many ways.

People, people sort of, you know, go in all different directions.

They don't normally go to one concerted little area like they might after a tornado hits.

Right.

Or, you know, are evacuated from a hurricane and the flooding and fires can turn like that.

Where an area that is evacuated, you know, today, by 10 o' clock tonight, they may be letting everybody back in.

Right, right, right.

You know, which very, very rarely ever happens, you know, after a tornado or a hurricane where they let people back in that quickly unless it just didn't hit that area.

Right.

Yeah, that's, that's one of the kind of the strange things.

You know, last few years we've had some pretty good sized fires up here in both Oregon and Washington.

And they would have these zones, the red zone and you were, you know, it was a green zone, which was fine, Yellow, caution, red, don't go in there.

And then there was a, there was another one which is like you're not going home type deal.

But that, like you said that would change sometimes within just a couple hours.

Yeah.

And people could go back and if they left livestock or whatever, check it out, get their, get their goods out, be safe.

But yeah, when you see, we see it of course on television and stuff, when we see flooding, the aftermath of hurricanes, that type of some poor reporter standing on the beach with his leg chained to a concrete block so he doesn't get blown away trying to do his live remote there.

I always feel sorry for those guys.

Uh, they, you don't come back right away, but you gotta eat.

You gotta eat.

Yep.

You know, you gotta eat.

You know, I mean, let's face it, there, there's a few things that you have, you have to have shelters.

One, you know, a big one and food is the other big one.

Right.

And then there's the resources and you know, such as emergency resources or things like that.

You know, we're, we're just, we're really only qualified in one area and that is, is the food side.

We can't help much about the housing.

We can't, you know, we're, we're not a, an EMS type group or anything like that.

They can help or even provisioning outside of the food side.

I mean, finding diapers, finding, you know, things like that, clothes that people need that, you know, we partner with some people around that time, you know, that do those things.

But, you know, that's not what we're really good at.

You know, what we're good at is being able to provide a good, hot, comforting meal.

How do you plan, make up an event?

There's a, there's a hurricane coming to the west side of Florida and you know, you've got the guys at NOAA and the weather services and they're saying it's a Cat 3 or Cat 5 or whatever, but how do you, when you first roll the semis, how do you kind of know what you're going to need right out the gate?

I mean, you're obviously going to be there for a while, so you can restock at some point, but how do you know what you're going to hit the ground with?

Yeah, so, you know, we start with, you know, looking at the size of, of the area going to be impacted.

You know, obviously, you know, cat 3 to cat 5 doesn't really matter at that point.

When you're at a Cat three or above, you're, you know, there's going to be widespread damage.

So really what we're, we're going to do is we're going to, we're going to be rolling in our first trucks that are going to have our, our main staples, right.

We have a quick culinary to hit the ground running within the first 24 hours to where we can start putting meals out once we get on the ground.

Usually quick fire stuff, sausage sandwiches, things like that that are more heat and serve type of a approach then, you know.

But we're like I said, we'll start out with, with a series of about 10 semi trucks that we know are going to come in and we even our own equipment like our command center.

I always wanted our command center to roll in first.

Right.

And I wanted it to be front and center so everybody saw it.

But it's now one of the, one of the latter vehicles that comes in because I need the food there on site, I need the smokers on site, I need the equipment and supplies.

So those things start rolling in generally within, you know, within 24 hours.

We, we warehouse a lot of our own stuff.

We have multiple warehouses around the country.

We also work with Amazon who allows us to, to at least you know, store some vehicle and vehicle or vehicles and trailers.

Their main disaster hub is in Atlanta.

So that's a great place for us, especially when you're looking along the Gulf coast or up the east coast side during hurricane season.

So, you know, we're able to also move equipment around the different parts of the year.

We know right now in tornado season that we're going to sit here and make sure that we have stuff, you know, around the Midwest and across the Ohio Valley area down to, down towards Texas, Oklahoma, just to make sure that we have coverage.

But like our main food storage right now, freezer storage is Kansas City and Dallas.

So between the two areas, Kansas City is really a smaller hub.

We, we only have a certain amount of space, but it's, it's donated space and freeze better than paying whenever possible.

Sure.

And then we're actually looking at moving all the stuff from Dallas to another warehouse space that we have on the Tennessee, Virginia border around the Tri Cities area.

Because one, we already have equipment in that area.

We already have a warehouse space and the owner of the warehouse is going to build us.

He's in the business of, you know, cooler storage and things like that.

Sure, those things.

So he's actually working on building that out for us because we've ran into problems.

We're no, we're a small client and we're a client that doesn't generate a lot of revenue for them.

Right.

Meaning that, you know, most of those warehouses get paid on the churn, you know, paid on the square footage.

But the churn is what really that in and out is where they really make their money.

So they don't like us when it sits there for eight months.

And so we're, you know, it could take us, it can take us three to five days to get our stuff out of one of those big box warehouses because we're a small customer and everything.

So we've got to start out with the first couple of semis already in place.

And so we're just working our way to, to the point that, you know, you know, at any given time in warehouse space, I have probably around 350 to 400,000 servings of, of meat.

Right.

And about the same amount on, maybe a little less on, you know, like number 10 cans of vegetables and stuff like that.

Sure.

I can roll in with a couple of semis on my own and start the process and then backfill like you're talking about.

Right, right.

That's, that's, well, it's a, it's such a huge job.

And you know, to know that being a guy that ran a catering company for a number of years, you know, on that very small, small scale, it's, it's kind of mind boggling to, to think about what you guys are doing.

We got to take a break, but we're going to be back with Stanton Hayes, who happens to be the CEO and one of the founding members of Operation Barbecue Relief.

And Stan and I will be back in just a couple minutes.

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I'm J.T.

leanne is off on special assignment this week.

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Anyway, we're talking with Stan Hayes from Operation Barbecue Relief.

Stan's been on the show several times before.

I always enjoyed talking with him because this stuff fascinates me from the logistics side and the, and the cooking side.

But also what I think is you guys really step up with helping people in need.

You know, I'll tell you this folks.

If you've not been under any, and I'm sure a lot of you have, but if you've never been under duress, real serious duress, and you haven't eaten for 36 hours and you're trying to find a place to get a bottle of water because you're starting to dehydrate, Stan and his crew are the people you want to talk to.

That's, that's what I can say because those situations are not pleasant.

When you, when you roll in and you were talking in the first segment, Stan, you have, you know, kind of the heat neat type stuff like that.

Do the meals get kind of graduated as time goes on?

If you think you're going to be in a, in a situation for 10 days, do they get a little more, more fresh vegetables instead of canned vegetables, that type of thing?

If you can get your hands on them, yeah.

The fresh vegetables are, are a challenge in itself cooking time wise and, and finding them in the amount that, that we need, you know, right.

If you're doing 25000 meals or 30 or 40, 000 meals in a day cooking from fresh, we, we're already got towers of, you know, of pallets of number 10 cans.

If we started bringing in fresh vegetables, it would, it, it would take forever.

Now we do some of the fresh stuff that we do try to add and augment with, with the meals as we go.

We try to bring as you know, fruit when we can get it.

We try to add in, you know, even if we have to do fruit cups, right.

Things that, things that they can take with them, handheld type things, snacks, you know, everything from granola bars, something that, you know, at lunchtime that they can have, you know, a few hours down the road before they have, you know, and especially if they don't get back out and get dinner.

Right.

So we, we, we continue to work on that.

And you know, our big, our big focus last, you know, you know, year two years has been around that, adding that, that fruit component to it just

a little bit more.

The fruit cups are great because you literally can sit there and, and hold it for later as a Snack.

Right.

You know, and we're even getting into and looking at what we can do.

You know, we don't do breakfast today, but we're, we're looking at putting together with the help of some of our partners out there, breakfast boxes that would be, you know, more, you know, shelf stable items that you sure take out there.

And again, it's not a, it's not that comfort meal piece.

Right, right, right.

But at the same time it's still, it still gives them something, you know, you know, whether it's a box of cereal, you know, today, the milk today, the shelf stable milk today that they have isn't like the old days where you mix the powder up in the water when you're camping as a kid and everything else.

It's actually pretty good.

And you know, that way you're able to give them, you know, a little bit of normalcy, you know, a bowl of cereal in the morning and you know, and a fruit bar or something like that is, is what a lot of families and people are used to.

They're not you, you know, not everybody's used to having, you know, bacon and eggs for breakfast or something.

Right, right, right.

Yeah.

We used to call that blue milk

graduating into, you know.

Yeah.

Sam, when I was a kid we called that blue milk.

That's that old carnation stuff that they mixed up.

It was.

God.

Aw

was a kid and we were out there, we, we, you know, we'd be out camping and stuff like that.

You know, they wouldn't bring cartons of milk.

They would just, they'd bring a, an empty carton and they would mix that up.

Yeah.

And then try to get you to drink it, you know, like.

Yeah, that much.

Rather drink the cold water out of that tap.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

So how is the camp doing?

The camp has come along great.

It has progressed to the point that this week the first building the bath house construction is that they're, they are sealing the concrete floors yesterday and today they, it will give it a, you know, give it a 48 hour cure time after that.

And we're now just waiting for the propane to be hooked up for the hot water and we're, we're ready to start rolling essentially with the bath house.

So the tiny cabins that we already have that are down in the woods that we use now.

People don't have to roll over and come to the lodge to take a shower or use the restroom or anything like that.

They'll be able to walk to the top of the hill, you know, about half the distance, which, the distance isn't great, but I mean, just.

It's a little bit more convenient.

Sure.

To roll in there.

So it, it's, you know, I think the, the last thing after that and they start putting the siding on.

Then we'll finish.

The ramp will get finished for the ADA accessibility.

Right.

For it.

But, you know, it is.

It's exciting.

You know, we.

The first cabin itself is about ready to punch and go through the punch list of, hey, you know, we need to touch up here.

This.

This isn't right or this needs to be moved or whatever it might be.

And then we're going to be able to empty out.

We already have the mattresses.

We've had them for over a year.

They were donated by the Tempur Sealy.

Sealy Foundation.

Tempur Pedic Sealy, you know, basically gave us a truckload of.

Of what we need.

I think we're, we're like maybe two mattresses short when.

When it's said and done.

Yeah.

But we'll be able to move those out of our shop, which takes up about 40% of the shop space.

Y right now has been all the wood, keeping the wood in a controlled environment, you know, to go in there.

And we're, you know, we're using a lot of rough cut pine and staining it a nice golden, rich, you know, sort of honey color, if you will.

Sure.

So, you know, we got a lot, you know, a lot's going on, but it's, it's moving, it's progressing about.

I'm down there every other week for construction meetings.

So I'll be down there next Tuesday and really have an opportunity to see the progress.

And it's amazing in two weeks, you know, what we're seeing.

And that, that's kind of the fun part too, when you get to go back and see the progress made and you, you know, you kind of puts a smile on your face, I'm sure.

Yeah.

Well, right now if everything, you know, we don't have any major hiccups the first week in June.

They should literally, you know, be handing over the proverbial keys and moving.

Moving their stuff out.

There you go.

That works.

Hey, we got to take another break.

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When you started this 13 years ago or whatever it was, Stan, did you ever think it would get this big?

I mean, we all have when we start things, you know, we kind of think like, man, I'd really, you know, someday this that we dreams.

But you've actually made it happen, you and your crew.

Yeah.

So, you know, it's probably, that's one of the, probably the top three questions that I get asked is did you ever think.

And yeah, I know exactly where the question's going when it starts.

And no, I never thought it would be this big.

I never thought.

I knew we were having an impact in communities.

I knew it would grow.

I don't know that anybody ever thought it would grow to the point it is today.

I don't think as you look at it, our growth outside of the disaster into first responders and what I'll just call those heroes that are always serving us.

I think that has been a natural progression to continue to do good.

Because when you look at the people that we're serving, you look at the volunteer group that we have, you know, they're the ones that really told us, hey, outside of disasters, we want to help our first responders or we want to help the veterans in Our community or, you know, the active military.

Sure.

You know, so we listen to what our volunteers have to say and as well as our partners out there, you know, where do they look at, you know, continuing to help.

How many volunteers do you have now?

Or I'm sure it fluctuates depending on the situation.

But.

Yeah, so, so we have, so we have over 18,000 people who've registered with their email in a database.

Right.

You know, over the last 13 years of that, we have about 800 or so that have actually got through the full process to get, you know, have their background check done, you know, provide all the detailed information that, that we need that's more than just their email address.

Right.

And.

And I call those our engaged volunteers.

Anybody that spends the time to go through there and have their background check done and, and fill out all the, all the different line items that we ask for.

Right.

They're truly the ones that we really rely on.

So you have, you know, you know, you have 800 that what I'd call your CO, the core group.

And out of that core, you know, above that 800 of the 18,000 that we have, the other ones, I call those the, you know, being in the right place or the wrong place at the right time, whatever you want to call it.

Right.

You know, they're ones that don't have the flexibility to travel, they don't have the flexibility to take long periods off.

But if we were in their community on a Saturday, they may come out, right.

They're interested, they want to get our emails, they want to see what we're doing.

They just may not today be able to be in that situation.

And not everybody is.

We understand that, but I mean, a good number of those 800 started out with that, you know, and now have grown to, you know, hey, you know, people that we have, we've done additional training and education on.

So they're actually leading different areas during deployments.

Excellent.

Let's talk about the food.

We, We've touched on it a couple of times.

But do you, do you get like the proteins, whether it's chicken or beef or pork or whatever, do you, do you have to buy those or do you get.

Do you have some companies that will help you out and donate some or a disaster happens and you've got 20,000 pounds of pork.

Well, that if you're going to serve 200,000 meals over the course of a time, that only going to take care of part of it.

Do you ever get a phone call from a CEO or a VP somewhere and says, stan, send your truck over here.

I've got another £40,000 of pork shoulder for you.

Yeah, we, we do.

So let me start at the beginning of that big question is.

Sure.

So, so one of our very first sponsors in the Moot, the, the meat area was Seaboard Foods, Prairie Fresh Pork.

And you know, they have been with us now for probably seven, eight years at least.

And, and every year they, they pledge to donate so much, you know, and, you know, you talking about pounds.

We talk about how many truckloads.

Yeah, yeah.

And, and when, when we're going through that and, and really they come to us when they're long on things going, hey, do you have, do you have storage room?

Because we've got a bunch of product here that, you know, we had to freeze because, I mean, you know, companies like, like Prairie Fresh try to keep it fresh.

They try to.

Right.

Use it and get it from the factory to the stores, you know, without, without doing that.

Once they freeze it, then that window that they have, you know, of, hey, how long are we going to keep this?

We don't have an infinite amount.

So that's one of the companies.

We have a couple other pork producers out there, Wholestone, who's a, who's a smaller, has been, has been a good supporter of us.

We've got stuff from Tyson before, we've got stuff from Smithfield.

All of them have, have, you know, been involved when it comes to beef.

National Beef has been, has been involved for the last couple of years.

And we just did a project with, you know, last week and so I, I expect that to continue to happen.

It, you know, beef is so much more expensive.

So when, right.

You get a, you know, you get a truckload of briskets donated to you.

You know, that's a, that's a big day for you because.

Sure, you know, if I have to

pay for it, I'm going to go poultry or pork all day long because the cost per pound is.

Oh, yeah, it's cost prohibitive for me to irresponsibly, you know, pay for beef when poultry and pork are so much cheaper and then, you know, Mount Air and in the poultry world kind of, I'm forgetting some names.

I mean, on the poultry side, you know, Butterball is really the only one that we have a deal with.

The other ones come through because they're more of a regionalized, you know.

Right, right, right.

Producers out there.

So as we go around the country, we know who the different ones are to contact.

And, and you know, believe it or not where we get most of our ice is from poultry companies.

Oh, yeah, we'll get.

We'll get boxes and wax boxes that, you know, case boxes that normally wings or legs or whatever go in.

They will fill those up because they have their huge.

The huge ice machines.

And so we literally have had, you know, poultry trucks roll in, but without poultry.

Poultry is really hard for us to cook because to get the volume needed, that's a lot of work.

Right now we have.

We have a new.

Not.

It's not new technology, but we have.

We have.

We have a new cooker that is like a charbroiler, you know, conveyor charbroiler.

Sure, sure.

You know, that'll roll it through.

And we've been testing that with boneless, skinless chicken thighs and.

And we have to slow it down a little bit, unlike a burger, because we will take burgers and run it through there and do things like a.

We'll do that with a brown gravy over rice and things like that.

We.

We get far outside also outside of just the barbecue world anymore, because no one wants to eat a pulled pork sandwich every day.

Right.

You take that same pulled pork and you put it over rice with a teriyaki sauce.

Now you have something different.

Right, right, right.

But, you know, so we.

We've progressed it.

You know, rice has been one of the big things that we've added over the years because we just know one.

It's.

It's inexpensive.

You know, yes, it's expensive, it's heavy.

But, you know, compared to yield, it's pretty light, what we can get out of it.

And, and, you know, we're at full tilt.

We're.

We're running, you know, 10 tilt skillets at a time, you know, which is about 10,000 servings when you're doing, you know, just vegetables.

Right.

So, you know, we've.

We've gotten.

We've gotten to where we can do a lot more and, and utilize that equipment in different ways.

And so now poultry has started coming back in because we have these cookers that we can run it.

I mean, two people can run this conveyor belt system.

One person, you know, loading it and, and bringing this, you know, and getting the, the.

The cases there opened up and just loading it and one person making sure that they don't overfill.

Yeah.

You know, so that's very interesting.

You know, process.

When it comes down to it, do

your people on the ground that are actually doing the cooking, because you were talking about this with the rice and teriyaki sauce and stuff and I think that's tremendous.

But do the people there, can they get a little creative?

Let's say you had 100 pounds of frozen peas and you didn't know what you were going to do with them.

Could they put that in the rice and put the Terry.

Absolutely.

Yeah, we do a lot of that.

We do a lot of mixed vegetable rice and stuff like that.

You know, we got pretty creative.

You know, when we went to Maui last year, you know, we obviously weren't rolling semi trucks in.

We weren't rolling stuff like that.

So we partnered with restaurants over there, used our, our knowledge of how to mass feed and help the restaurants learn to scale to do things.

And many of them kept doing it far after we left and that.

But, you know, there, you know, we learned and worked to really provide culturally appropriate meals.

Right.

You know, we were doing a lot more of, we were using a lot of pineapple juice with, with pork and with, you know, to add sort of that tang that they're used to.

Not just our barbecue sauce, we would add, we'd mix the barbecue sauce with that and, and thin it down so you had those flavors.

We, we had, you know, I think we had rice.

90% of the meals that went out, you know, because they're just, that's what they're used to there.

And you know, we learned a lot from that, you know, you know, in helping diversify our meal selection to be able to do that.

But we have, we have our, our volunteers when you know, it's usually on, on the latter end of deployments will work on menu development.

So we, we try to, we try to continue to menu develop and let them give us some recipes that we may, we may have to sit there and scale.

Right.

You know, right.

Not too many, not too many recipe books are, are written for a, a 40 gallon tilt skillet.

Absolutely.

We're going to take another break.

We're going to come back, come back and wrap up the regular part of the show and I'm going to ask Stan a very pressing question.

I think you'll like it.

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That's Barbecue Nation.

We would like to thank the folks at the Oregon Crab Commission.

I just did another crab deal, my version of a crab slider last week on TV here in the Northwest.

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We're talking with Stan Hayes here, CEO of Operation Barbecue Relief.

Millions of meals served.

I don't even.

Is 11 million the current number, or.

Yeah, it's 11 plus.

I don't even know what the current number is.

11 million.

I know it's over 30, you know, 36 different states, plus the Bahamas now, and we're somewhere approaching 120 or so deployments.

There you go.

So my pressing question is, when you were in Hawaii, did you use Spam?

You know, we did not.

We looked at it, but, you know, one, you couldn't get that much.

Yeah.

You'd go around the island.

Now, now, now.

I've also never seen the variety.

Like, I was at Walmart, you know, picking up some supplies one morning before I headed to the site.

And I've never seen so many different varieties of.

Span of.

In my life.

Yeah.

You know, and.

And at the McDonald's there, they do have a Spam breakfast sandwich.

Yep.

But I wasn't brave enough.

I just.

I just couldn't do it.

Well, I'll tell you, I always like Spam.

My dad versus Spam.

Yeah.

My dad having been in the military a long time ago, he.

That was a no.

That was a no sale for him.

You know, he wasn't going to do that.

But my daughter in college, she had a bunch of kids that went to school with her from Hawaii, and I.

And, you know, she came home one day and she goes, do we have any Spam?

Now, this is a kid that, you know, grew up eating kind of meat and potato stuff, but I never thought she would do that.

I said, yeah, we have, like, three cans in the cupboard.

And she.

She took it, started making meals with it.

I was proud of her.

Anyway, anyway, that was a really pressing question on my.

On my brain.

Absolutely.

Do you get supports from the individual states or the federal government at all or anything like that.

Stan?

Yeah, so usually it's, it's through the state, if we get any, and then the state goes back.

The way it works is like with FEMA and everybody, if, let's say you hear like, hey, the, the president's declared a disaster, you know, for XYZ State.

And they'll generally say, you know, something like it's at a 75% reimbursement.

Let's say that means that, that FEMA is going to go through the process with the state.

The state's going to have to claim all of what's been done and all the money spent to be able to get 75% of that money back.

Well, what as a nonprofit, what we can do is all of our volunteer hours can be monetized.

There's a whole organization out there that tells you what the chart is and how much in a volunteer hours worth and all of these things.

So we keep, we keep meticulous records of, you know, down to the volunteer themselves, how many hours they spent on site.

Right.

You know, when they checked in, when they checked out.

All of those things can be provided as support.

So we can go to a state and say, hey, our volunteer hours may equal, you know, 60, 70,000 hours during that time at $30 an hour.

This is how much this could mean to you.

So what we want you to do is we want you to help us with, you know, the cost of these meals, because in turn, you're going to be able to use not just the cost of the meals of feeding people in your state, but our volunteer hours to go back.

And now that's how they could be made whole.

Because all those volunteer hours could help them well over that 75%.

Right.

To hit that 100%.

That's interesting.

I didn't know that.

Yeah, so.

And a lot of the smaller states don't know it.

A lot of the small emergency management folks have never really dealt in that world.

So they don't know.

So we try to educate them on how we can help them.

But the big states like Florida, you know, some in Texas, some up in the Northeast, I mean the Carolinas, and stuff, we've been well known in those areas.

They know who we are.

We have members of our team going to, you know, these emergency management conferences across the country.

So we have connections.

You know, some states are easier to work with than others.

Right.

But you know, we're also not gonna, you know, we're not gonna wait for a state to Come and say, hey, we want you here.

Even though Florida generally says it before we ever mobilize, they're, they're like, hey, we, we want you to be on our, you know, feeding team or, you know, Louisiana or something like that.

So dealing directly with FEMA and the federal government is just a very, very difficult thing to do.

So we much prefer to work with the state or somebody else and understand.

Let them be the middleman.

Yeah.

When would a state like Florida call you and say, hey, Stan, we've got Hurricane Izzy coming in and would, would you be ready?

Would you go have your, you know, you kind of know the flight path or the travel path.

Would you guys be staged at the Georgia border for us and, and whatever?

I don't know exactly how you do it, but they get there and you got your first 10 trucks lined up ready to go.

As soon as they give you the, shoot up the flare.

Yeah, so that's, that's, that, you know, that is very much how it works on, you know, with, with hurricanes, because they have enough lead time that they, you know, they can, they can come to us.

They also know what our capacity is.

They know that if I have every piece of equipment on the ground, you know, I'm at 60 to 65,000 meals a day capacity, generally.

They also know what keeps me from getting there, because that's generally what I, you know, what I harp on when they're like, how, how fast can you be to 60?

How fast can you get me bunk houses for people to, you know, stay in?

Yeah, because what keeps me from, from getting to 60,000 is supply chain, which generally I, I control a lot of my supply chain, but it's the volunteer side.

If I don't have places for volunteers to sleep and stay, I can't bring them in to scale up to that as fast as they would like me to sometimes.

Right.

And that's my leverage with the state to be able to get some of those things.

You want me at 60,000.

Well, that means I got to have, you know, 200 people to 250 people staying on site.

And you're going to have to help me get another hundred of day workers that are coming from the area.

Real quick, Stan, website, throw out some information so people can check it out.

Yeah.

So the website is OBR.org and, you know, you can go to that site and register to volunteer.

We're actually going to be up in the Pacific Northwest again in June up at Ala for Barbecue Fest, and we'll need some volunteer help up there.

So be looking for volunteer opportunities.

But you can also go to the website and click that donate button and help out.

Follow us on social Media It's OP BBQ Relief is the handle on all the different social media.

Watch my updates on the camp and watch for when you know Wish List Wednesdays.

Right now our big push is helping us finish out what we need to purchase to finish out the rooms and everything once we get that camp built.

Excellent.

Maybe this year I can help you at alna.

I don't, I don't know the dates yet, but I'll see anyway.

It's Father's day weekend, the 14th, 15th, 16th of June.

Well, I'm probably not doing anything that weekend, so.

Daughter's gone, wife's probably in Europe or something.

Anyway, Stan Hayes, CEO and co founder of Operation Barbecue Relief and friend of the show.

Stan, thanks.

Stick around for after hours, folks.

We're going to be back next week with another edition of Barbecue Nation.

I'm JT and Ms. Leanne is Will be back next week, I think.

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