Good morning, Beth. How are you today? Good morning, Melissa. I'm

good. The sun is shining. Spring has

sprung. I think my daffodils are coming

up. I've got my tulips out. Spring is trying to

spring, isn't it? It is. So I've been doing

a bit of decluttering, which I think a lot of people do with this time

of year as well. So letting go of the old and

allowing space for the new to come in. So that's what I've been up to,

really. Well, that makes sense why this morning I had this sudden

urge to go around. It's like that song

collecting your jar of hearts. I literally picked up all

my, like, empty jars. I saved them. I work with this healer.

She makes all these balms and the lotions and I give her. I have

a lot of, like, blue bottles from Neil's yard and they're really

good at stopping the sun, like, getting in and all of that. And so I

keep them all, but they get scattered around. And this morning, pick them all

up, put them all in a bag, and I'm like, oh, I'm going to get

them ready for my friend in it. So maybe there's a decluttering

thing going on, maybe. Yeah,

like pruning and cutting back and gathering and nesting and

all of the things. So, yeah, I like that energy. I think sometimes it can

feel like an effort to do that, but then other times it can feel like

today I want to sprinkle in kind of thing. Right? That feels like the order

of the day. It's really interesting, I think, when we really

dip into our bodies cues and our

inspirations and our thoughts that we can

tell. I have a story that I hate cleaning. I

like, hate. I'm like, everything. And

so I tell myself that story, but sometimes I get this

urge, like, it's more to do it. And

we have a choice, don't we? At this point, we either go back to a

story like, oh, no, I hate that. Or we do it and

then somehow it helps us feel more

energized. And that story can

park itself for the days where I do not like

clean. Yeah, maybe I should change it to most of the time.

Some of the time, I don't like cleaning. I know what you

mean. I'm not a big cleaner. It's not my thing.

But there's something of clarity that comes with

decluttering and cleaning. And I think sometimes when we're feeling a bit

stuck or in that busy energy that actually just stopping and

clearing the decks is actually a really good way just to allow

new inspiration to come in, allow new things to come in, like physical objects and

people and all of these things. So it's a good thing to

do. But, yeah, should we be, and I don't think it matters, but

should we be led by when we feel like we need to do that? Or

should we be carving that space out in our diaries regularly so that we

can really cultivate that power? But then

it starts to become more of a habit and something that we might want to

do or might not. Want to do, I can't ever imagine. I

think that if I had that diet, that would be the thing that got

the same. But I do have

my space here, and last week I was teaching Reiki, so

I had all my Reiki books out. Sometimes I

think I learned by osmosis, right? So I just have all the books, even if

I'm not using them, and then the notes and all of the things, and there's

a couple of manuals that go with it and all of that. So they've been

sitting there, and then I've got this harrow decks and my notebook

from the business mastermind. I'm in. And this week

I've been doing my challenge, and it's interesting

because I can be in, for example, teaching Reiki and have all my

Reiki things around me, and it doesn't bother me, but as soon as now,

I've moved into a new space, a new

teaching, a new experience. The

Reiki books, which are taking up the exact same space

they were the week before, they are

like, oh, you need to go away. Like, you need to go. You need to

go in your home.

So, yeah, so then again, I had this urge, although I'm looking at

my 12345 tarot decks

that are sitting on my chest right now. But then,

yeah, I got this urge to, okay, I just need to clear that

out, and it suddenly happens. And I think for me, if I force

myself to do it, it doesn't have the same

impact. I know what you mean. Yeah. It is an energetic thing,

though, isn't it? I think, like, just having something physically in your

space is we're connecting with it on some level. We're

seeing it, we're sensing it, we're feeling it, we're in that energy.

And so when we're wanting to bring or start something

new, to clear that space is a good thing to

do. We used to have a lot of places to do, have the clean desk

policy, which I used to hate because I, like, I'm one of those people. I'm

not messy, but I know where everything is. My other half is,

like, very much. He likes everything in a certain way. He's very OCD about stuff,

like, even how the cups are in the cupboard, whereas I'm like, one cup could

be upright, one cup could be down, one cup could be to the side.

So when I put. If I put the shopping away, ten minutes later,

he'll be rearranging the soup in the right order, which is fine, but, like,

we just live with each other's quirks kind of thing. But I know where

things are. If somebody says, where's the hairbrush? It doesn't have a designated

place, but I will know where the hairbrush is. It's interesting, isn't it,

how we create our lives and how what's

important to us. And then understanding this energetic space. I had that

same desk policy. Yeah. Was working in the

showroom. And I remember saying to my boss, who

very much took umbrage with the state of my desk, I even had one

of those pads that you could just write notes on. Right?

Like the big ones. Yeah, the corporate ones with a. Branded on.

And I had. So I had one of them, and they just look. They do

not look pretty, do they? And then I didn't have to fumble around for

notepads. And I said to him once, I said, the day that my desk is

clear is the day that I have got no. Nothing on.

Yeah. And he was like, you need to keep your destid.

And I think that we all work in different ways. Like, for

me, a lot of the time, I can have things

around, and they don't really bother me. But then sometimes,

like, when there is this energy change, I'm like, now I need to

change. Now I need to get rid of the Dex. Now I need to. I've

got this energy clearing spray that I use as a

cleaner. Like, literally, I hate the smell of

polish. And I think it's for our listeners. I think

sometimes it can feel like, oh, okay, energy is important, so you need to work

in a really clear space, and that's the way we do it. And feng shui

will tell us that this needs to be here and that needs to be there.

But the truth is, I think that our environment and

our human, there's an interaction going on. And

for some of us, that kind of

chaos energy

helps. And I think you, like me, are

one of those people that can take chaos and

turn it into coherence. Like, we can take energetic

wisps and inspirations and crazy

philosophies and all of this, and then put it together into something.

Yeah. So maybe that's why I think that everybody's different. And I

think that is it. I can make order out of chaos, whereas my

other half needs to have order in order to be able to

function. And I think. I just think it's interesting how we are all different,

and it's about complementing, and it's about acknowledging

and listening and working together in all of this to find

out what works, especially in a relationship setting. But

I used to hate, like, the clean desk policy, but I did see the

benefit of it. Like, when I did it, when I did it, I did.

Coming into the office and having a clear space

allows you to not have that overwhelm at the start

of the day. So it supported me, but,

yeah, it wouldn't have been like, I would never. That would never be my preference

of. Right. It's five to five now. We're gonna clean my desk.

It's like, it will still be here. In the morning, and that's what I

do. And I'm gonna have to unfind where it. I know where it is. Like

tomorrow, when I need to make that phone call at 09:00 a.m. I know where

my piece of paper is. But now I'm going to have to actually go to

the filing system and work out what conversation I need to

have. So I just think it's an interesting concept that

what space is and how it helps us, but also how

we individually can adapt to different things as well. And I loved what you said

about you learned by osmosis, because I felt that very much when I've been

in spaces and memberships of other people in

other groups, even when I've not been active in that group,

I have, by osmosis, been picking up on what's been taught,

even if I haven't been physically in a lesson or a training.

It's almost like just being in the energy of somebody else. You can pick up

on little bits of conversations that are going on around the periphery, and you can

put it all together and you actually know what the training was. And I

didn't know if I was a lone wolf in that, but I think when you

said it, I thought, oh, Mel gets that. I get it. But then I

think this comes with being very aware of the subtle energy. It's

also very interesting. I'm running my five day practice as we're recording

this, and today is day two, and it's all about clearing the way

in energy management. And for me, that's something really

important. And as I think we become more

sensitive, we become more able to pick

up or at least decipher the different energies that are

coming. So for some of us, that means that when we come

home, that the space needs to be clear and clean

and white, and have one crystal on the desk

and like one thing in there, and then that's it, because that's

when we need to come and de stress,

or we just need to come and regulate. And for some of us, that's what

we need. I find that when my energy levels

are good, when I'm feeling on top of things,

I often don't notice the thing on the floor.

My husband says I have a superpower that I can walk in

and I see all the tidy bits around the messy

bit. And that's literally what I do. And he comes in, he's the opposite, and

he can tidy up in 3 seconds flat. Whereas for me it takes ages,

because when I put things away, they need to go in the right

place. But whatever it is that is around us

is influencing that. And I think as long as we can be aware of that,

yeah, then if you know, what I'm doing at the

moment, actually is holding space for a lot of people, and they all have

their own things going on. And so actually the

12345 tarot decks that are sitting on my desk

out of their place, of where they're filed, maybe on

some subconscious level, is helping me, because I've got

350 different people with all their own

experiences and things going on that I'm managing and holding

space for. Maybe in some level these cards

are giving me this coherence from the

chaos, maybe. Yeah. Now it's interesting we're having this

conversation because I had this clearing

out thing this morning, and when I came in here to

record this, I was looking at all of my things, thinking, when

we finished this call, I'm going to clear it all up, I'm just going to

tidy it up. So we're all ready. But we're talking about energy clearing today, so.

Of course we are. So my job when I'm talking to

the group today, is to be in that coherent,

clean, straight, open energy,

because that's what I'm talking about and modeling for them.

So this isn't just me trying to manipulate that, this is me

responding to something that until now I've just said it.

I didn't realize that there was actually some logic involved in there.

I thought it's like, oh, just give it a little clear out. Just get nice

and clean. Get my energy cleaning spray and wipe the desk so it's all nice

and clean and fresh. So I suppose what I want to

say to anyone listening is just be aware

of it. If when you come into a space, you feel really

overwhelmed and you feel cluttered and you feel behemed

in, then look at your space and be like, okay, am I.

Am I hemmed into my desk? Have I got things all around? Have I got

old tissues and, I don't know, tea bags and

whatever it is that we. That human pens everywhere and

things that aren't. I'm just looking. I've got a. The end of an

incense stick just sitting in my abalone shell

here, and that's old. I've used that to clean

energy and I've kept the sticks there. Yeah. Have

some subtle influence on me. At the

same time, if you feel like you need, I

don't know, maybe some inspiration, you're teaching a certain subject. What if you did

have all of your Reiki books, even if you're not going to be

referring to them or using them or even opening them, what if they

were there? And then something about the energetic of that book that has

literally, having written a book, you know this, right? We pour our

souls into it. That book holds that energy and

that maybe just on some level, we tune into

that and then we're inspired to

do something. Maybe it's because we feel prepared. Because if someone asked me a question,

I don't know, I've got the book there. I don't know. I think it's a

feeling, isn't it? We know when we are ready

to clear the decks and move stuff away because it feels good to do

that. And other times we want the clutter around us. And it was interesting.

I was doing some meditations yesterday, and what came up,

just completely expecting it to come up, was

just this image of fountain pens and writing

utensils that I've had through pretty much

throughout my childhood, which sounds like a bit of a weird thing, but it was

like these images I was getting these images of when I first received my first

fountain Penn at primary school, and how, like, the joy and the energy

connected to having that and this being an implement. But then as I

started to continue to connect with that in the meditation, I then started to

see these images of the pens that I received, like

a secondary school. And the energy of those pens

was very different. And it almost felt like this

writing utensil was actually almost like a wand or a protection

or like a cloak for me, supporting me through

difficult times. Like, it's almost like this pen, this implement, was with me

in the classroom when I was maybe feeling anxious or overwhelmed or nervous as a

teenager. And I'd not obviously picked up on that subtlety at the

time, but these implements were just being shown to

me over and over again. And I started to remember pens

and fountain pens and ballpoint pens that I had

used over the years that had always been there for me. And it makes

sense to hold something in your hand, and

you're using that for whatever you're using it for, but it's actually picking up on

the subtleties and the anxieties and the other one that I'd felt in that moment,

and I just had overwhelming gratitude and appreciation

for these pens. So you just reminded me when you mentioned

pens that came up. I love that. Yeah,

there's a whole lot to this. There's a whole lot to psychometry, which

is the art of picking up energies from

objects. And we see this in mediumship quite

often, that we say, oh, have you got anything of your loved one? And then

they hold it in their hands, and then there's this connection,

because especially if you look at something, we hold something

like a pen that you've held in primary school, as well as

the one pen. Now, you get pen license when you write the way they want

you to. And you have this one thing, and like you say, it

becomes that your creative outlet, or it becomes

your. We all have different experiences at school, or like a wedding

ring, which you're wearing all day, every day, and how it can

hold and anchor in the energies of what it is that's going on

around us. But that is true for everything. And I

think that this conversation is important because as we become

more aware of this empty.

I've just drunk this coffee, right? But this empty coffee glass has

an energetic imprint in it. And whilst it

has the coffee, and it has everything that

I associate with that while I'm drinking it, if I just left it here

and left it for four days, it's starting to hold a very different energy.

And suddenly it's maybe telling me I don't feel important enough to

do this. It starts to send a vibe out into

the world, and we are picking that up each and

every time. And for me, it's about really

becoming aware of. There is always an interaction

with me, and physical objects with me, and energetic objects with

me and the tree, which is why when you go in the

forest or by the sea, you feel better, because you are in with

these negative ions, and they're cleaning out all of

this charge. We live in a world that has Wi Fi and

wiring and electric cables overhead and under our feet, and all of

these things. What are we tuning into?

And one of the most important things that I

understand about myself and that I

really needed to get good at as

a human and as a spiritual mentor, is energy

management. And if your environment can

support you in that, then you've just taken a lot of the heavy lifting

out of it. Let your environment do that. Why do I have

this huge amethyst that sits behind

me? Because it holds an energy. It stops

energy. I do all my work from here, accumulating corner,

and I've not just plonked it there, I've given it a

job. We've had a chat. I clean up this really cute little

unicorn brush thing. I'm going to show you, bear. I

think it's a makeup brush, right? It's like a fan. That's pretty

cute, isn't it? And it came for free when I'd ordered some brushes. And

I'm like, it has a job. It's feeding back energy. It's helping me

transmute. It's purple. It's this energy of high

enlightenment and transmutation. And so as I'm pulling energy

in, rather than it all gets stuck in that corner, it can feed something

back to me. Above me here, I've got this six pointed

star shelf. And on that shelf, there's a bunch

of crystals on it. Now, I haven't just put the crystals on there because they

fit, because one of the bottom shelf is literally a v

shape. So what can you do? So I've got a celestite, but I've got so

many crystals that it's not just, oh, that fits there. And that looks pretty.

It's okay. How can that support me? So that celestite helps me

with my celestial collections, and I've got the

labradorite sitting there. And the labradorite feels, for me

very magical and deep and insightful and mystical.

And sometimes I need that energy. And then I've got the

Buddha sitting there, who I feel really protects me when

I'm out in open space. It helps me to

not you think about what the Buddha entails, this enlightenment,

yes, but this. Anything can be thrown at me, and I'm

protected. And so my environment is very conducive to

the work that I do here in my home

is different, because in my home, it's not about me doing

all of that. Yeah, got quite a few rose quartzes

going on there. And I've got pictures of Mickey Mouse, a Donald

Duck and a goofy, like, amazing artwork in there that we picked up

from Disney World, like years ago, because it has this more kind

of fun and family quality.

So how is your environment influencing you?

How are you picking up and you feel if it doesn't work, you walk into

a room and you're like, oh, not this. And if it's there,

not this. What's going on with the colour? What's going on with the things in

it? What about the position of your desk and go and get a

feng shui expert.

Maybe we'll go and have a look at the. What's it called, the bagua

map, where it shows you the different areas of your house, I

think. I'm pretty sure it's called a bagua map. And it shows you the different

energy centers of your home. And you'll be very

surprised. Like, for example, right corner,

as you're looking in from the front door, is the love corner,

right? And I didn't know this. And in that corner

I've got a sign that literally says, all you need is

love. Before I knew, right? All you need is love. I've got one

that's on the wall. I've got a wooden

sculptory thing that says love on it. I had these

candles, these what they called love hearts

sweets. Love heart candles in there with all of this stuff, I didn't even

know. And I'm like, isn't that interesting? My front left,

which is the study and wisdom corner, and that was where my

bookcase sat. And I'm like, now, how interesting

is that? We were picking up on the

subtleties and now I know, now I can enhance.

So in my abundant corner, I've got a citrine grid with

things. Right. Trust yourself, I think, yeah. It's not

just you picking up on energies when you walk into a room

or whether you want to clear the decks. It's also, what do you want to

put into the space as well? What do you want to add that is going

to create that energy that really fuels you and

brings you happiness and joy? We've just redecorated

the living room and it feels like a very different space, different

colors, different pictures, different fabrics, different energies. And one of the

debates that we had was around the curtains. Now, the curtains, there was nothing

wrong with the curtains, but we'd had them maybe twelve year. We had this whole

debate around, do we keep them or do we get rid of them? And my

other half wanted to keep them. We thought they were okay. And I was like,

but they've got twelve years of all kinds of

energetics, birthday parties, arguments,

happiness, excitement. I said, I think we need to. It's time

to let these go and let some new curtains. And curtains are quite. They hold

a lot of space. They do, yeah. And they also keep light

in, or dark lighting or dark, however you want your room to

be. So they've got a, they've got a big job to do and I

think they hold a lot of energy. So that,

that was one of the decisions that we had to make. I'm so pleased that

we got some new curtains. And I think he's now also happy that

we got some new curtains. But, yeah. So it's not just about

what we already contain within our containers and our space and our rooms and

our environments. It's also about what we choose to

place in the environment as well,

to make it feel even more special and being aware of that. But I do

feel like everybody genuinely has that

knowing. Like we know instinctively when we walk in a room whether this

is good or this is bad or something's off or not. And so I

think just knowing where you want to put your water on the

desk or whatever, or the pen that you use today, everything, we've talked about

it before, where you're like, oh, today I want to wear this cozy

cardigan because this makes me feel these feelings. So I want to drink from this

cup because it brings me joy. My

water sits on my altar. It was such

a small shift. I used to sit here next to my laptop.

And then what was it doing? I was absorbing all the luck. Exactly. I'm looking

at my water now. It's my water. I have a

crystal bottle, so it's in luck and it's a

glass bottle. And my altar sits behind me and it's

out of shock because it's impersonal, most of the things on

my altar. And one day it was when I was doing

some work with a Shaolin master that I've been

working with for a while, we were talking about the

effects of water, and he said something really interesting to me. He's like,

when we're working with energies and especially with these

really high frequency or the bodhisattvas and

these enlightened beings, and we call them in, they're there straight

away. But we often have these worthiness issues around

whether or not we can be blessed by their light. And so we put

up conscious or subconscious blocks to receiving

their full power. Yeah.

And he said to me,

water and food doesn't have the

blocks. The water and the food will just receive whatever energetic

it's in. And he says to try it. He said, put a

bit. So I had, for quite a while, I had a Buddha altar,

and I had his little offering cups in

there, and I'd offer a one for nourishment and one for cleansing, and then

I would give it to the Buddha, and then I would drink it. And I

was like, oh, this water, like, it does feel different.

And he said to me, also, put some nuts or some food. Actually,

doesn't matter what food. You can put a chocolate bar if you want, there, and

just notice if there's any difference when you're ingesting it.

And I noticed a difference. I could feel that the nuts,

I don't know, just felt more

energetically charged.

And so now I keep my whole wards all the time.

It sits in there. And when I finished, it, got another bottle, which

then I fill it up with, and then I leave it there

for 12 hours, 24 hours, 36 hours

overnight, and it's absorbing all of my intention that I've

put in there, and then I'm drinking it, and what a life

hack. I love that. Yeah. Top

tip. Put your water in it. But then you think, what

if we used to do. We used to do these meal box

kits. Yeah, the thing. And they got the instructions and all this,

and at the time when we did them, I had the three

children, and they were little. They were, like, under five, and they were all by

my feet. And then I had the great job of following a recipe, which,

with a brain like mine, following a recipe is not. But I wanted

to do it because my Virgo rising, like, you need to do it. You need

to do it in the recipe and my pisces. No, you don't. You do what

you want, Melissa. Anyway, and then the kids, and I'd be cooking this

meal, and I'd be getting really agitated, like,

all the time. I'd be, like, anxious that I'm gonna do it wrong or that,

I don't know, there's too much. And I'm trying to follow and I'm trying to

listen. I'd always also have some podcasts going on at the same time.

Don't ask. And one day, I was like, I can't do this anymore

because I am literally putting into my food this anxious

energy. Yeah. And it made me wonder. I will not

mention which food box company this was, but it did make me wonder

how the workers felt when they were packing up, maybe

they felt anxious, or maybe the delivery driver felt. Had a

certain thing about them. Maybe the way the boxes were

manufactured or there's something in there that I was then picking up on that

was adding to that anxiety. So what if,

in our kitchen, we put something really simple? For example, I've got

a rose quartz that sits on top of my, like, where my water

is, and I've got another rose quartz which sits where my

tea and fruit and

eggs. And it just sits there. And then there's, like, a nice

picture and then a thing on there, because it starts to go into the

love corner of the room. What if we just did something

like that? And then every time we cooked or made

a drink, we just looked at that rose quartz and was like,

it's all filled with love. I love that. I think setting an

intention and also having things in the space that is going to

energize whatever it is that we're doing, whether it's cooking or

watching tv or laughing, whatever's going on in the house is a

really powerful thing to do, because I think we should always have intention. We should

always be trying to focus or get back to the thing

that brings us. And we have to think that everything that's manufactured, all

of those energies, you get a brand new mobile phone. All of the component parts

of that mobile phone and who put it together, and the factories and

the packaging and everything, all of that holds energies. And none of that

is. Is us, is it? So we should be

clearing everything, everything that comes into our house and blessing it and setting

a new intention for it. Like, when we get a new card deck,

we touch them, feel them, connect with them, set

a new intention for the deck, and maybe we should be doing it with more

things. I think this is this conscious

awareness of it. And if we can think, oh, okay, I can feel better when

I'm walking in the woods, or I can have a crystal, and that crystal

can help me, or I can have a book here, and I can learn by

osmosis. If that. If any part of you is, oh, yeah, I can do

that. Then it only makes sense. That is just true for

everything. It's not becoming. It's not like coming into fear of, oh, my

God, this thing has arrived in my house. Now I need to leave

it. Remember, COVID? Now I need to leave it outside my door for

72 hours before it comes in. I know some of the

rituals, but it's not that.

But it's having that awareness that sometimes things will come in.

And. It'S within our

responsibility, I think, to be able to go,

okay, what do I need to do with this? How do I need to bond

with this? How is this making me feel? Is this

right? And if it isn't, maybe we need to move it, change

it, clean it, connect with it, meditate with it, wash

it. It's having the awareness of it, isn't it? It's knowing what

we're feeling around that. But my, my auntie who

passed away around Christmas time, the family has been clearing that

house out and that has undeniably shifted some

kind of energies in there. And people are picking up on things that feel a

bit icky and that they're not them and they're now able to bless the house

and do all these kinds of things and clear all that space out.

But we're picking up on subtleties of

all kinds of things all of the time. And I think it's just having that

awareness when we feel like something's not

us or not right or it's not filling us with

happy thoughts. And it feels a little bit more icky that we can have that

conscious ability reset that and to clear

the clear that. And sometimes that starts with the clearing the decks and the desk

and the, and sometimes we want to do something more ritualistic and

use all the tools available to us. So I wonder if

it's inspired to spring clean now and who

is around their space going like I

am. Yeah. Oh, look at that. That's out of place over

there. And just be

conscious. Maybe one week I'll talk about,

I have a lot of crystal grids and things that I put on around the

house. And they're an interesting conversation, I think, to have

how they work. I'm looking at one grid that's sitting over there that I put

up when I released my book. And it's still there. It's still there intact.

And I look at it sometimes and I think, no, I still don't, I still

don't want to move that still there. So that's been,

you know, it's coming up to you. Yeah, it's been there.

So maybe we can have a conversation, if the listeners would like,

about crystal grids and how they affect us and

why I have, I'm surrounded

by so many and what constitutes one. It's always fun.

That sounds like a fun conversation.

Okay. It's been another enlightening,

clarity fueled conversation.

And I shall now go clean the house. Yeah, there we go. I'm going to

go clean my energy in my yoga practice, but, yeah. I've got

ten minutes where all of these decks and all of these books are going

to be filed away, waiting. Storing

the energy, waiting for time. So if we have

inspired you to clean, clear, change, or

move, do let us know, because we'd love to know. And I'm sure your

families will be delighted with you. I know my husband. When I do anything,

he's well done. What's wrong with you? And I'm like, I don't know. I was

inspired to clean. Please let us know and we'll take the credit.