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Sarah:We've got a great question today about when guests have
Sarah:pushback about price changes.
Questions:Hey, ladies.
Questions:Love your show.
Questions:Thank you for all your tips and tricks.
Questions:It really helped when we launched our third short-term rental.
Questions:Anyways, my question is about the Andrew Kitchell episode.
Questions:I think I'm saying that right.
Questions:CEO and founder of Wheelhouse.
Questions:Love Wheelhouse.
Questions:It has really done a lot for specifically one of my properties.
Questions:It doesn't work for all of mine, but for that one, it's really great.
Questions:It caught a random day where we would've been offering the house
Questions:for $120, and it bumped it up to 500 plus, and we got a booking.
Questions:Crazy.
Questions:I missed that there was a local event going on, and Wheelhouse got it.
Questions:Anyway, my question is, we often will get guests who will book and then need
Questions:to edit their dates, and after they go to edit their dates, they'll come back and
Questions:say, hey, I was booking it at $200 a night and this extra night is $300 or something
Questions:different than whatever the average rate that Airbnb was displaying was.
Questions:And part of it's because Airbnb does that average thing, and part of it
Questions:is because we have dynamic pricing.
Questions:And it just puts a sour taste, I think, in the guest's mouth for me to say that.
Questions:It feels super impersonal.
Questions:So wondering how you guys approach that.
Annette:First feeling is we love that you mentioned dynamic pricing,
Annette:and Wheelhouse, and a specific instance, how it worked for you.
Annette:So for everybody out there that's still questioning dynamic pricing, that one
Annette:instance where there was a $400 gap in the nightly rate, that is going to
Annette:happen more often than you even know.
Annette:So there are events going on all the time that you are not going to be
Annette:privy to, that you can't keep up on.
Annette:So let the tech do that for you because those nights add
Annette:up, and they add up quickly.
Annette:That one night can be a big difference maker in your month, in your year, and
Annette:just the overall health of your property.
Annette:And then there were some key words I want to take away from that
Annette:question is, it feels and impersonal.
Annette:Those are all very, um, we're, thinking that.
Annette:I don't know if the guests are--
Sarah:It's emotional.
Annette:Yeah.
Annette:If the guests are telling you that, but, um, again, we are hospitality,
Annette:but we are a hospitality business.
Annette:So Sarah, let's take it away with the way to hold space for the guest and
Annette:help them understand dynamic pricing.
Annette:And I will say, thank you the airlines of the world, the other hotels in the world,
Annette:Ubers of the world where they are making it, basically by the minute changing.
Annette:Um, so I think consumers are just learning a lot more about dynamic
Annette:pricing and that prices change.
Annette:And so hopefully those type of apps have helped us make this
Annette:much easier because people do have experience with seeing prices change.
Annette:By the minute with Uber or Lyft, by the hour, by the day with airlines and hotels.
Sarah:Before we get to the guest's perspective, let's talk
Sarah:about the host's perspective.
Sarah:And I think a lot of hosts out there, especially who are new to the game
Sarah:in the industry, they do feel dirty maybe is the word, or they feel--
Annette:Icky.
Sarah:Icky.
Annette:Yeah.
Annette:She's the said--
Sarah:She used the word impersonal, and I do understand why you feel that way.
Sarah:And I also want to say, just because the airlines and Uber have the dynamic
Sarah:pricing, can't we be different?
Sarah:We're hospitality.
Sarah:But again, I implore you to really make sure you understand your numbers.
Sarah:And are you willing to leave money on the table to feel more hospitable
Sarah:or more accommodating to your guest?
Sarah:And just know how common it is, because it's not like this technology is to
Sarah:take money out of people's pockets.
Sarah:It's because your property is in more demand in those times,
Sarah:which is why the software is helping us price it accordingly.
Sarah:So to know that it's rooted in data.
Annette:And with this script, we're going to give you--
Sarah:Some ideas on what to say.
Annette:And at the end of this script, a way to hold space, make it
Annette:feel not so impersonal and icky and still be an extremely hospitable host.
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Sarah:All right.
Sarah:When you are met with some pushback from a guest who booked their dates--
Sarah:and first, I also wanted to-- sorry.
Sarah:I know.
Sarah:I'm going to get to this.
Sarah:But for anyone out there who doesn't understand what they mean by Airbnb
Sarah:posting the average rate, they'll do that.
Sarah:So what Airbnb will do in almost every OTA and maybe even your direct booking site,
Sarah:depending on who you work with, it'll fish for the lowest price you have available.
Sarah:So let's say your average nightly rate is 250 bucks, but if you have a random
Sarah:Tuesday night that you're willing to sell at 150 bucks, it'll say like--
Sarah:it's any other marketing strategies too.
Sarah:It'll say, from $150.
Sarah:And so a potential guest will say, well, wait, I thought I was $150.
Sarah:Well, that's the lowest rate, but that's that Tuesday that no one
Sarah:wants to stay at your property.
Sarah:And so that is built into not just Airbnb software but a lot of booking software.
Annette:And something that's built into me as a person, I do want to offer
Annette:this, is that I almost always ask for a discount or a added plus to my stay,
Annette:so please don't feel-- I feel icky if I don't ask for something more.
Annette:So I just want to let everybody know that there are consumers out there
Annette:like me that will ask for things.
Annette:And so it's just part of a strategy that I have, and I gamify things like that.
Annette:So I also want to get some nos from time to time because it means that
Annette:I'm stretching what I'm asking for.
Annette:So let me put that out there too.
Sarah:Yeah.
Sarah:You never know what you're going to get unless you ask.
Sarah:So when you are met with a pushback, you want to think of breaking down
Sarah:your response into a few segments.
Annette:Yeah.
Annette:Because somebody's like, wait a minute, I just tried a book, and now it's $300 more.
Sarah:So first of all, you want to delight them with the fact
Sarah:that you are available and you can accommodate their date change.
Sarah:Remember, just because they want to change their date doesn't mean that
Sarah:your property's going to be available.
Sarah:So when it is, you can delight them with your availability, and then you
Sarah:can confidently stand with your rates.
Sarah:Make sure you reassure with them that you have done the work necessary in
Sarah:the background to make sure that your rates are competitive with your market.
Annette:And if they are competitive, if they go look for
Annette:those dates somewhere else, they'll see, oh, yeah, they're correct.
Annette:Those are exactly right.
Sarah:And then you want to create urgency to book.
Sarah:A lot of us need a deadline to get something done, and there's
Sarah:strategic ways that you can do this.
Sarah:So they can just make the decision and stay with you because, be honest with
Sarah:yourself, they need to stay with you.
Sarah:You are the best host in your area.
Annette:And also they've already done all the research, they've taken
Annette:all the time, so you can create that urgency like, I know you've already
Annette:looked at a lot of different places.
Sarah:We can assure you we are the best place to stay in our area.
Sarah:And then you want to give them a call to action.
Sarah:What do they need to do?
Sarah:They need to book with you.
Sarah:And then you need to thank them for their time and assure them that their
Sarah:stay is in the best hands possible.
Sarah:Here's an example.
Sarah:We've got something written, so if it sounds scripty, it's because it is now.
Sarah:"Hi, guest.
Sarah:We do have availability for your updated trip dates and would love to host you.
Sarah:You are seeing a difference in total cost because the new travel dates are during
Sarah:a very busy period in [insert your area].
Sarah:We are thrilled to still have the dates open to accommodate you.
Sarah:Once you have approved the change, you are all set.
Sarah:Thank you so much.
Sarah:We are very much looking forward to seeing you."
Sarah:Then if you get pushback on your response there, you can do one
Sarah:of two things or do both things.
Sarah:This first, one first, and then ease into the second one.
Sarah:"We are confident in the posted rate.
Sarah:We understand that this is no longer working in your budget."
Sarah:And you could also decide to say, "But we are happy to extend you a 5% discount
Sarah:off the nightly rate because we want you to feel whole in booking with us."
Sarah:5% is like, great.
Sarah:Especially if you could welcome them back for next year.
Sarah:Really help the Annette's of the world feel like they got something extra.
Annette:Andmake you feel better.
Annette:Feelings are real.
Annette:So making you feel not icky, not impersonal, and feeling like you did hook
Annette:them up with a deal, because you did.
Sarah:You did.
Annette:So this is a great question, listeners.
Annette:Use that.
Annette:Don't just cave.
Annette:Know your numbers.
Annette:Like Sarah said, know your numbers in the beginning, and then you'll feel a lot
Annette:more confident in answering this question.
Sarah:Absolute.
Sarah:Of course, there's a train going by right now.
Sarah:The train is like, yes, if you hear that.
Annette:Yeah.
Annette:It's rooting us on.
Sarah:All right.
Sarah:With that, I am Sarah Karakaian.
Annette:I'm Annette Grant, and together we are--
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