Luz.
Speaker ADang.
Speaker ASweet Playdate Club.
Speaker BThanks, Luz, for appearing on the Adventures in the Heart of Children's Book Authors podcast.
Speaker BLuz has mentioned that she has written a children's book, Sweet Playdate Club, and I look forward to our conversation.
Speaker BLuz, before we start getting into the details of your book, can you tell us what being a children's book author means to you?
Speaker BI know you're newly minted here.
Speaker BTell us about all.
Speaker BAll this shine.
Speaker AFirst of all, let me say thank you for having me here.
Speaker AThis is such a great opportunity for me.
Speaker AThe feel good is the emails, the videos, the moments, cards, the family coming together, the support system.
Speaker AThe one moment I could tell you is I have a very special friend who has a child.
Speaker AHe is, I want to say, about 8 years old, and he's an athlete, not a big reader.
Speaker AAnd she sends me a video telling me, this child reads to me every single night.
Speaker ANever once, ever wanted to pick up a book.
Speaker AA book because he was an athlete.
Speaker AHe was not a really big reader.
Speaker AYou don't know what that did to my heart.
Speaker AMy daughter being proud of me, sharing her stories and making sure that people see the world through her, how it meant to her, and all the memories that she made and everybody else can make those same memories.
Speaker ASo that's pretty special.
Speaker AThat's my feel good moments.
Speaker BExcellent.
Speaker BIs that kind of the moment when you realize that, hey, I'm a children's book author.
Speaker AYeah, launch day when I became the first Amazon's bestseller.
Speaker AThat day, that's when I said, oh, my God, I'm a children's book authority.
Speaker AThis is really happening.
Speaker BI like to get into the origin story.
Speaker BTell us the inspiration behind your book.
Speaker BHow did it all start?
Speaker ASweet Playdate Club was inspired by my daughter, Sky.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AI was that mom that was very limited with electronics.
Speaker AShe didn't have an iPad.
Speaker AShe didn't even get her first phone.
Speaker ASo she was 14.
Speaker AAnd that's because she went to high school.
Speaker AAnd so I tried to put it away as long as I could, but Skylar has a really big sweet tooth.
Speaker AHer way of getting more sweets through her day or her week would be making play dates, having play dates, and having the kids make treats.
Speaker AAnd that's how it all inspired when I saw Skylar in my kitchen with her friends, spilling milk, flowers everywhere, giggles, happening, teamwork.
Speaker AThat's what we're all plant.
Speaker AThat's the seed, where it came from.
Speaker AAnd I just started writing, and that's terrific.
Speaker BThe thing I love about children's books is they're always Based in some level of truth.
Speaker BAnd it sounds like your book was inspired by your daughter and some nuggets of truth.
Speaker BAnd when I first read your book, the first thing I thought of is I thought of my mother, who loved to bait, and she's no longer with us, but my mother spent time with my granddaughter, so that would have been her great granddaughter.
Speaker BAnd the neatest picture that we have, and your book just brought memories back was my mom baking with my granddaughter.
Speaker BThat's cool.
Speaker BAnd that's.
Speaker BI don't want to reveal too much of your story, but towards the end, we know there's a grandparent involved that brought back memories of that whole thing.
Speaker BAnd that's what I love about children's books, is they tend to draw us in some aspect.
Speaker BWe're just never sure what aspect they draw us in.
Speaker BKnowing that you're a newly minted children's book author, do you have a children's book business plan?
Speaker BTell us about that.
Speaker BExplain to aspiring children's book authors what you plan to do with your book.
Speaker AOkay, let me go back a little bit.
Speaker AI have always wanted to write children's book.
Speaker AIt's always been a very.
Speaker AA passion of mine.
Speaker ABut of course, I didn't know where to start, how to begin.
Speaker ADuring COVID we had a lot of time in our hands, and I wrote about 10 little stories, and I did some research, and I came across a publisher, and.
Speaker ABut everything was so uncertain at the time, and you didn't know what was going to happen.
Speaker AThere was so much unknowns.
Speaker ASo I put it away.
Speaker AA couple years later, we moved into a new home.
Speaker ASo during the unboxing, I came across the stories again.
Speaker AAnd I said, you know what?
Speaker AThis is it.
Speaker AThis is a sign.
Speaker ALet's just do this.
Speaker AI started to do some research again.
Speaker ABelieve it or not, that's same publisher would come up again.
Speaker ASo I'm not gonna talk about the publisher yet.
Speaker ABut that's when I knew that this wasn't.
Speaker AThis was it.
Speaker AIf you didn't do it now, you'd never do it.
Speaker AAnd that's how it all started for me.
Speaker BIt started from writing ten little stories, making.
Speaker BLike you said, all of us dealt with COVID and everybody has a different story.
Speaker BI know a lot of people through Covid wrote books, and I actually wrote two business books through Covid.
Speaker BAnd yeah, that's a different story into its own.
Speaker BBut it's interesting about how making a move, starting fresh by moving into a new home, and you open up a box and voila.
Speaker BYeah, and you know what?
Speaker BI know that was only a couple of years, but I, one of my first guests, it was 30 years.
Speaker BShe wrote a story and put it away for 30 years.
Speaker BAnd she went on to have her career in teaching.
Speaker BAnd when she retired, she found her story on an old yellow writing pad.
Speaker BAnd now she's got two books.
Speaker BYeah, it's incredible, right?
Speaker BI noticed that you have your book in three formats on Amazon.
Speaker BYou've got a paperback, you've got a hardcover version, and you've got an E book.
Speaker BAnd do you also have your book through ingramsparks?
Speaker AI do.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BAnd so for the listeners, I think you've heard me say this before.
Speaker BIngramsparks is a company that does two things for you.
Speaker BOne, it gets you into all the other online retailers like Barnes and Noble, Walmart, so on.
Speaker BAnd the other thing is that Amazon does not print a children's hardcover book, but Ingram Sparks does print a children's hardcover book.
Speaker BAmazon, you have to have a minimum of 72 pages to have a hardcover book printed by them.
Speaker BLet's jump in a bit about, because it's fascinating.
Speaker BLike you said, you read the signs, you had this publisher keep popping up in your Facebook feed, and finally you decided this is a sign.
Speaker BAnd that's what I always talk about.
Speaker BThere's really three ways to publish a children's book.
Speaker BThere's go get it traditionally published, which is where you find a publisher.
Speaker BThey take all the rights, they do all the work, and you get a small portion of the proceeds from the sale of each of the books.
Speaker BThen there's self published or hybrid publishing, which is, I believe, what you've done.
Speaker BAnd then there's, of course, independent publishing, which is what we did as a children's book author.
Speaker BWe took on all the duties and as a general manager, and we published our own book.
Speaker BSo I know you are using Miriam Laundrie, which is a hybrid children's book publisher.
Speaker BBut before we get into that, I'm curious, when it came to publishing your children's book, what was your biggest challenge or frustration.
Speaker ABefore publishing with Miriam or.
Speaker BYeah, yeah.
Speaker BSo when you were thinking, okay, you finally came back to it, you opened up the box, you're in your new home, you're going to start fresh, and you say, okay, now what, what was your biggest frustration or challenge to getting your, your children's book published?
Speaker AHonestly, it was quite a few challenges, but one of them was believing in myself.
Speaker AI didn't know where to start.
Speaker AI knew I always wanted to write books.
Speaker AI didn't know who to talk to, who was going to illustrate it.
Speaker AWhat was the process?
Speaker AI didn't even know where to begin.
Speaker AThat was one of the biggest challenges.
Speaker BYou've got all of these challenges floating around in your head.
Speaker BTell us what happened that you finally were able to say, ah, I'm going to take action, or what was that pivotal moment that you took?
Speaker BYou finally took action and you got hold of Miriam Laundrie.
Speaker BOr maybe you didn't even start there.
Speaker BMaybe you started sooner and then built to that.
Speaker BTell us about that.
Speaker AI talked to a few publishers and I didn't get a chance to speak to Marian Laundrie at the time.
Speaker ABut I went to a conference that she was hosting and I actually met her face to face.
Speaker AAnd that's when I knew the second day that I was in her conference.
Speaker AI already know this is who I was going with.
Speaker BWas just a ductary conference in your area, or there's no.
Speaker AI actually flew to Canada.
Speaker BOkay, so you flew to Canada.
Speaker BAnd I decided, okay, I'm going to go to this conference.
Speaker BI'm going to listen to what's being told.
Speaker BAnd so that conference inspired you to take action.
Speaker AI signed up in Mariam Laundrie.
Speaker AI have to say, this was a smooth process.
Speaker AShe was so incredible to work with.
Speaker AHer team was incredible to work with.
Speaker AThere was a lot of doubts, a lot of learning curves and a lot of delays, but they were.
Speaker AI'm freaking out, but they were fine.
Speaker ADon't worry, we'll take you step by step.
Speaker AAny emails I sent, they were returned within five minutes.
Speaker ATheir work ethic was impressive.
Speaker AI had to find the illustrator myself.
Speaker BRight, right.
Speaker ABecause they don't work on that part.
Speaker BThey give you several leads too.
Speaker AThey do, they do.
Speaker AAnd then you just pick whoever you are.
Speaker ASo I went with Advocate Art.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BAnd just so you know, I've talked to about 75 children's book authors and about 20 to 25% have actually published with Miriam.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd a lot of times that's how I get my leads, is a lot of these authors that have worked with Miriam are in a Facebook group.
Speaker BAnd then they go back and forth and then they'll say, you know what, I was just on Adventures in the Heart of Children's Book Authors podcast.
Speaker BYou should reach out to Rick and take it from there.
Speaker BThat is a very positive thing that happens for me through Miriam Laundrie, even though I'm an independently published children's book author.
Speaker AI wanted to tell you.
Speaker AAnd this is.
Speaker ACause I know other authors or inspiring authors will listen.
Speaker AOne of my biggest challenges was also keeping it at 32 pages.
Speaker AThat was tough because a lot of things happen in the kitchen with the kids and making sure that the message stayed pure and age appropriate because I wanted it for it to have meaning for both for kids and for parents, not just the kids.
Speaker AThat was one of my biggest challenges.
Speaker BThat's so true.
Speaker BI hear that all the time about when the writing the story and staying pure.
Speaker BAnd that's why I always say to aspiring children's book authors or even experienced children's book authors, make sure you have an editor.
Speaker BBecause they tend to be the least expensive but probably the most important person because, yeah, they help you stay on task, they help you stay on message, and they make sure that at the end of the day, most children's books, if they're 32 pages, are between 500 and 1,000 words.
Speaker BAnd they help you stay on target to make sure that you're within that zone.
Speaker AYeah, that was pretty hard.
Speaker AYes, you want to.
Speaker AOf course, you have to stay on within the 32 pages, but you still want.
Speaker AYou get your message across the way you think it should come across.
Speaker BI've noticed.
Speaker BAnd you know what?
Speaker BThat's the beautiful thing about whether you're self published or you're independently published.
Speaker BAt the end of the day, you have the literary license to do whatever you want.
Speaker BAnd that's what some authors do.
Speaker BI've seen authors have thousands of words and it's just the way they feel and what's important to them for sure.
Speaker BWhen you got around to working with Miriam and you went on your search for an illustrator, did you end up using someone that they recommended or did you do a broader search for an illustrator?
Speaker AI did a broader search.
Speaker AShe sent me a few people to look at.
Speaker AAnd so I just went on abbotkr and there are thousands of illustrators out there.
Speaker AI know it's so small, but when I saw Hannah Wood's eyes, I just went with it.
Speaker AI liked how.
Speaker ABecause I feel like I saw my daughter's eyes.
Speaker AMy daughter is.
Speaker AWe're mixed.
Speaker AWe're interracial couple.
Speaker AMy daughter's.
Speaker AWe are Hispanic and Asian.
Speaker ASo I needed to make sure that she had the correct eyes.
Speaker ALike, I wanted to make sure that there was a connection with Guy and the character.
Speaker AAnd that's when I saw her other books.
Speaker AI said, this is her.
Speaker BYou know what?
Speaker BIt's nice when you do your own research too, because that's what happened to us, is that as an independent publisher, we had to find an illustrator.
Speaker BI tried to find, and I'm in Canada, and so I tried to find an illustrator and I. I couldn't find one in our area.
Speaker BAnd like you, I went on the Internet.
Speaker BI was looking for a feel like you were, and I wasn't as specific as you were with people.
Speaker AI was.
Speaker AI don't know why.
Speaker BNo, but that was important to you, and that's.
Speaker BI think that's a great message for aspiring children's book authors.
Speaker BIf you have a certain look that you want to capture, it's your book.
Speaker BDo the extra work to do as you have done.
Speaker BThat's what we did.
Speaker BWe went on and I looked for a illustrator that could capture the great outdoors, the feel of Caboose, like you and I had talked about before we got on the recording, the moment I sent a picture of what we wanted Caboose to look like.
Speaker BAnd the illustrator came back and said, what do you think?
Speaker BAnd we said, that's her.
Speaker BThat's Caboose.
Speaker BWe're now up to two published children's book books in our series.
Speaker BThe beautiful thing about it is that our illustrator was able to capture what we were visualizing.
Speaker BAnd that's exactly what you were looking for.
Speaker BYou wanted the illustrator to capture what you were visualizing.
Speaker AYou know, I have to give it to illustrators, though.
Speaker AYou can say what you want to say and describe what you want to say and reiterate what you want to say it look like, but they don't have your visual and they do come up with exactly what you were thinking.
Speaker AIt's pretty amazing.
Speaker BIt is.
Speaker BYou know what?
Speaker BWe were lucky because all of our stories, we've written 38 stories in the Adventures of Caboose, the Rocky Mountain Bear.
Speaker BAnd I've written all 38 with my five grandchildren.
Speaker BAnd what's amazing is that in today's world, and you were talking about the digital world with your daughter not getting a cell phone till she was 14.
Speaker BOur oldest granddaughter, Kira.
Speaker BKira starts a K. And that's how we why we start Caboose with a K. Because of Kira.
Speaker BBut the iPhone is the reason I call her our digital baby.
Speaker BBecause there is no film, there is no negatives.
Speaker BEvery single picture from the moment she was born is all digital.
Speaker BAnd the beautiful thing about that is then I've been able to capture all these adventures in digital in pictures.
Speaker BIt was really my granddaughter, my oldest granddaughter, who said, papa, we have all of these pictures in your iPhone.
Speaker BWe should write stories about them.
Speaker BAnd that's how it all started.
Speaker BThat's the neat thing about that.
Speaker BBecause we had between three and 10 pictures of each of our adventures, I was actually able to send those to the illustrator to at least set a feeling for that person.
Speaker BBecause our illustrator, I live just outside the Rocky Mountains, and our illustrator lives in England and he's never been to the Rocky Mountains.
Speaker BIt was our pictures that allowed him to do, like you're talking about, create these illustrations.
Speaker BOnce you had your illustrator tell us a little bit more, did you actually send your completed story to the illustrator and then they started from there?
Speaker AI sent the whole entire manuscript to the illustrator and she came back about a week later with the template.
Speaker BOkay, so was it black and white or a storyboard or what was it?
Speaker AIt was a storyboard.
Speaker AIt wasn't black and white.
Speaker AAnd it was just pictures, like, you know, like whatever little story, she would make a picture out of that story, which I found fascinating.
Speaker BI noticed you don't have a website, an author's website now.
Speaker BDo you plan to do a website in the future?
Speaker AYes, it's actually in the making.
Speaker AIt's still in process.
Speaker BIs it going to be an author's website like your name, or is it going to be the Sweet Playmate Club?
Speaker BTell us a little bit about that.
Speaker AI think it's going to be the Sweet Play Date Club only because it's only the first book and I, of course I plan to have a series.
Speaker AThere's.
Speaker AThere's so many moments I have to share with the world.
Speaker ANot just the very first one.
Speaker ASweet Play Day Club was the very first book that was published.
Speaker ABut from there on, I.
Speaker ABecause it was such a great way to share the story and I got such great feedback and I.
Speaker AIt's only been, what, six months?
Speaker AAnd people are like, so when's the next one?
Speaker AWhen's the next story?
Speaker AWhen's the next treat?
Speaker AWhen is the next recipe?
Speaker AOkay, hold on.
Speaker ALet's just get through the first.
Speaker BI love the name and I love how you've done that, because it's.
Speaker BWhat we did is we named our first book the Adventures of Caboose the Rocky Mountain Bear.
Speaker BYou knew once you read the title there was going to be more adventures.
Speaker BAnd our second book, what we did, and I'll just show it to you.
Speaker BI know the listening audience can't see it, but.
Speaker BBut you'll see, we took our banner.
Speaker BWe Adventures of Caboose the Rocky Mountain Bear.
Speaker BAnd then our second book is actually called Hijinks from the Big Head Folk Music Festival.
Speaker BThat's the intention is to have a master brand like Caboose, and then to build out the adventures from there.
Speaker BAnd that's a beautiful thing about you setting up yours is the Playdate Club is there's so many things that children do in a club.
Speaker BSo for you, the amount of stories is endless.
Speaker BAre you going to use some of the graphics from your first book to build out your website?
Speaker AYes, I'm going to keep it consistent.
Speaker BIs the illustrator going to help you?
Speaker AYes, she's all in.
Speaker BShe's all in.
Speaker BDo you have the skills to do the website or are you hiring it out?
Speaker BHow are you going about that?
Speaker AI have my nephew who is an IT guy.
Speaker AHe's working on it.
Speaker BIt was interesting because on Tuesday I interviewed children's book author Rusty Austin.
Speaker BAnd Rusty's from Palm Springs, California, and he just recently retired.
Speaker BHe's got four children's books.
Speaker BHe started writing in 2016, but he said it wasn't till late last year that he actually developed a website.
Speaker BAnd that's when he noticed he started to get a lot more traction on his books because he had a place, a home for his four books.
Speaker BAnd so I'm glad because we went through the same thing as you is we wrote our first children's book.
Speaker BWe created a link for Amazon, and we put that on our social media.
Speaker BAt the end of the day, a lot of people said, where's your home?
Speaker BAnd I said, what do you mean, home?
Speaker BAnd they said, where's your home for your book?
Speaker BAnd they meant website and.
Speaker BAnd that's how we all come about it.
Speaker BBut it's fun because I'm excited for you because we did the same thing as you're doing.
Speaker BWe used the illustrations from our first and second book to build our website.
Speaker BGood luck and much success you'll have.
Speaker BYou'll have to let me know when you do have it go live because I can go in and change the show notes to add it in the future.
Speaker AAbsolutely.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AAbsolutely.
Speaker BMotivation.
Speaker BWas there a specific person or event that motivated you to finally take action?
Speaker BI know you said you moved into a new home, you pulled your story out, but what motivated you to take action?
Speaker BWas there a person or an event.
Speaker AI want to say, coming out of COVID We have a business, so obviously that was a little tough for us.
Speaker AWe didn't know what was going to happen.
Speaker ABut I feel like I needed some kind of motivation, something for me.
Speaker AI have been working alongside my husband for many years, and I just needed something for me, like it was just mine.
Speaker AAnd I think that Was the very first inspiration.
Speaker BNice.
Speaker BAnd has it filled that void in a way or that drive?
Speaker AAbsolutely.
Speaker AAbsolutely.
Speaker AI was just focused on the one book, although I had written a little stories, but once this happened, and voila.
Speaker AI was a published author.
Speaker AI just want to keep writing and not just children's books.
Speaker AObviously, my focus will be children's books, because that's always been my passion, but now I want to do other things, so we'll see.
Speaker ASo I'm back and forth.
Speaker ASo I'm pretty busy now.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BNo, that's fantastic character development in your books.
Speaker BAnd I know that you have two main characters, Danny and Sky.
Speaker BTalk to us about that whole relationship and why two main characters, and they go through this adventure together, and it's very cool.
Speaker BI don't want to give the whole story away, but tell us about this whole character development of Dani and Sky.
Speaker AIt's actually true.
Speaker AEverything about the book is true.
Speaker ASo Dani is one of my oldest nieces who is actually adopted, and she spends a lot of time in my house with sky.
Speaker AAnd that's how it all started with them two cooking.
Speaker AShe's actually a baker.
Speaker AShe's a culinary baker.
Speaker AAnd she went to school, and she's doing fantastic.
Speaker ANow she's a grown woman.
Speaker ASkylar is gonna be 17.
Speaker ABut that was the character development.
Speaker AI can't even tell you that I developed the character, because it was in my face.
Speaker AIt was in my kitchen.
Speaker AIt just.
Speaker AIt happened so naturally, and I just wrote it all down.
Speaker BI always say to aspiring children's book authors, if I talk to you about our book series and our adventures, every single story is based on it.
Speaker BAn actual event that happened.
Speaker BAnd in our case, we turned our characters into animals.
Speaker BAnd each one of my grandchildren has chosen a animal that naturally lives in the Rocky Mountains.
Speaker BThat's just what we decide to do now.
Speaker BIn our books, we also add humans because we want to make sure that people understand we're on this world together with animals and all kinds of wildlife.
Speaker BWe need to understand that we're sharing this, and so that's what we try and do.
Speaker AThat's right.
Speaker AI love what you created.
Speaker BThank you.
Speaker BI appreciate that.
Speaker BThe theme of your book.
Speaker BLet's talk about the theme.
Speaker BI know when you went through Miriam Laundrie and then you used their editing process and all that, did you have multiple themes, or did you have a clear theme right from the beginning, or did they help you drill it down?
Speaker BTell us about that journey.
Speaker AI had it clear from the beginning.
Speaker AI had it clear from the beginning.
Speaker AI knew that that book was going to be about sharing, baking, laughing together, making stories, accepting different cultures.
Speaker AI already knew what the story was about.
Speaker AMarion didn't.
Speaker AShe didn't even try to change it.
Speaker AShe was happy with what I had.
Speaker AOf course, there was like punctuations and marks and stuff like that, but other than that, the story stayed true.
Speaker BHow did you tie your theme into your central teaching?
Speaker AI would say basically the experience and the moments, that's how it all just came together.
Speaker BThere is two little girls, like you said, from different cultural backgrounds who have are introducing each other to their own special treats from their culture.
Speaker BAnd they share the journey together.
Speaker BThey go on this journey where one comes over and bakes the recipe with the other person and then they go to the other house and they do the same thing.
Speaker BI love that and I loved how you share the recipe.
Speaker BSo just for the listeners, if it's just for the recipes, buy the sweet Play Date Club book.
Speaker BJust for the recipe.
Speaker AJust for the recipe.
Speaker BMy wife is makes a one of the desserts that you talk about, but it has the cherry on top.
Speaker BIt doesn't have the thumbprint in the middle.
Speaker AThe shortbread cookie, the sharp bread cookie.
Speaker BYeah, but a lot of fun.
Speaker BAgain, your book brought back memories of my mom made those cookies and passed it on to my wife and we passed it on to our children.
Speaker AThose are our festive cookies.
Speaker AWe make those every holiday.
Speaker AThat's our cookie.
Speaker AFor us, it's guava.
Speaker AThat's our traditional thumbprint.
Speaker AThat's what you're filling in with.
Speaker ABut because sky was little, she just explores.
Speaker AShe explored with Nutella, she explored with sprinkles.
Speaker AYou can put whatever your little heart desires in.
Speaker AAnd I think that's fun.
Speaker AThat's a lot of fun for them.
Speaker BAnd it's a good way to introduce baking to children in a fun manner where they get to control part of the recipe.
Speaker BI love it.
Speaker BThank you.
Speaker BI know you said you're working on your second book, so you're busy because you're also working on your website, but I'm curious about your writing process from two standpoints.
Speaker BTake us back to when you first started writing.
Speaker BAnd like you said, you wrote about 10 stories, threw them in a box, and let them percolate or stew for a couple of years.
Speaker BAnd what's different now?
Speaker BTake us back and then bring us forward to your writing process now.
Speaker AOkay, so in the beginning, it's more like you just write what you saw, not in journaling.
Speaker AYou just write down what you saw.
Speaker AAnd now it's because I've learned, obviously we've learned how to do it now and I've had some help.
Speaker ANow it's more imagination.
Speaker ANow you can add.
Speaker AThere's so much more you can do to it.
Speaker ABefore it was you just write, Right?
Speaker AWe write what you feel, write what you experience.
Speaker ABut now it's like there's so much more.
Speaker ANow you think about color, you think about the outfits, you think about the background.
Speaker AThere's so much to think about.
Speaker AAnd that's.
Speaker AThat's what's fun about it.
Speaker BWell, with you, setting it up as a club in the series is what it does.
Speaker BAnd that's what I.
Speaker BWe were talking about earlier about the adventures.
Speaker BOnce you used a club or adventures, use that word, then all of a sudden it gives you this literary license to go all out.
Speaker BDo you think you've got more purpose or more focus now?
Speaker ADefinitely more purpose.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker ABecause I saw what it did.
Speaker BBesides your own personal experience with Danny and Skyler, tell us, did you conduct or are you going to conduct any additional research in the future as you write your books?
Speaker ARight now I'm going to stick to my stories only because I still have nine to go.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker ASo I want to stick to that.
Speaker AObviously I'll do research on that because I have to make sure that the recipes are perfected.
Speaker AI didn't make these recipes.
Speaker AThe children did.
Speaker ASo obviously have to go back and research on how they did it.
Speaker AHow what did they used.
Speaker AThese girls are so much older now.
Speaker AI'm hoping that they remember these days and we can go back and talk about it.
Speaker BTo have your niece actually go into the culinary industry, right.
Speaker BYou must have a lot of fond memories to help drive that now her professional career.
Speaker AThat's right.
Speaker BAnd when you say nine, it's interesting because we're up to 38 and.
Speaker BBut the only reason I mention that is that you may find that your nine manifests itself into 18 or 20, whatever.
Speaker AYou know what?
Speaker AI hope so.
Speaker AI hope so.
Speaker BSuccess.
Speaker BKnowing that you're newly minted children's book author, you've released your first book.
Speaker BI want you to think about this in two ways.
Speaker BI want you to think about before you even had your published book, how were you envisioning success for your book?
Speaker BAnd now that you have your book published, what's that success look like?
Speaker BAnd does it match up or what's changed?
Speaker AI want to say both.
Speaker AIt does match up.
Speaker ABut I think that what changed was my feelings.
Speaker AHow I'm sure you've understand this you know what it does to people when you get phone calls and the kids talk to you about it and they're excited?
Speaker AYou know what that does to your heart?
Speaker AEven the success that Sweet Play Day Club has had since July and it's only been a couple months, my heart is full.
Speaker ASo that's what that changed.
Speaker AIt matched up with the success.
Speaker AI was a little scared, obviously, because it was my first time.
Speaker AI didn't know how well it was going to do.
Speaker ABut now I'm so excited to see what's next because now I understand the process and I know how successful it can be, what warmth it brings to homes.
Speaker ASo that's my excitement and that's what's changed for me.
Speaker BAnd now that you've had this experience, will you use Miriam Laundrie's services again, or do you see yourself taking on more roles than you would have had you not gone through the Miriam Laundrie publishing program?
Speaker AI think I'm going to stick to Miriam Laundrie.
Speaker AI really enjoyed her process.
Speaker AIt was flawless.
Speaker AIt was easy.
Speaker AI liked it.
Speaker AI feel comfortable with her.
Speaker BAnd what about your illustrator?
Speaker ASame thing.
Speaker BSo you're going to stick with her as long as you're doing?
Speaker AAs long as she lets me.
Speaker BOkay, Good for you.
Speaker BI love the excitement.
Speaker BPeople can't see the.
Speaker BBecause we do this in audio, even though we've audited video, but people can't see the expression and the love on your face of being a children's book authority, which is awesome.
Speaker BAnd I noticed you're hugging your book, which is fantastic, the whole time.
Speaker AYou notice?
Speaker BYes, absolutely and rightfully.
Speaker BI always keep both our copies of our books right in front of me.
Speaker BVery proud of them.
Speaker BAnd you know where and whenever we get to share.
Speaker BThat's.
Speaker BI think that's fantastic.
Speaker BNow that you're a published children's book author, and I know you talked about how you were doing something for yourself, and I love that because most of us don't reveal that, but it is, you know what, we're all doing something for ourselves.
Speaker BI'm curious now, what's the role of writing mean to you in the grand scheme of your life?
Speaker ANow, the role of writing, I want to say it makes me fulfilled that I have accomplished something special.
Speaker AIt makes me want to keep going.
Speaker AI feel like I have.
Speaker ANot that I didn't have purpose before, but like I have a major purpose now.
Speaker BI know you recently published this, so tell us a little bit about now that you have this great feeling.
Speaker BYou have this book in your Hand.
Speaker BHave you gone out and done any public readings yet or worked any markets or events or, like, how have you taking the love of your life that you've got in your arms?
Speaker AMy other child.
Speaker BYour other child.
Speaker BHow have you shared your other child with the world?
Speaker AOkay, I'm waiting for Barnes and Noble to get back to me on a book signing.
Speaker AI have four scheduled book readings next year.
Speaker AI didn't realize that you needed a little time to get approved by the board.
Speaker AI thought you can just call.
Speaker ADoesn't work.
Speaker AI think learning curves, local libraries.
Speaker ADefinitely two readings here in my area, in the schools.
Speaker AWhat else am I doing?
Speaker AFestival.
Speaker BFestival.
Speaker BSo besides Barnes and Noble, is there any other bookstores independently?
Speaker AJust for now.
Speaker AIt's just Barnes and Noble for now.
Speaker BAnd you said events.
Speaker BTalk to us about that.
Speaker AFestivals next year.
Speaker AThere's three of them.
Speaker BWhat type of festival?
Speaker AThere is one in Ocean City.
Speaker AOkay, this is funny because I was researching festivals and of course, a lot of book fairs.
Speaker AAnd we're in that.
Speaker AWe're doing that.
Speaker ABut then there was one that came up that was a food festival, and I was like, what am I gonna do in a food festival?
Speaker ABut then I realized my book is about food.
Speaker AYes, everything's about food.
Speaker AWhen they see a book stand, they're gonna say, what's this about?
Speaker AIt's food.
Speaker ASo I'm hoping that that works out.
Speaker BWell in terms of advice for aspiring authors.
Speaker BThe nice thing about it, that should be fairly fresh for you.
Speaker BWhat advice would you give aspiring children's book authors?
Speaker AFor me, I would say, don't wait.
Speaker AJust do it.
Speaker AWork with what you have.
Speaker AWrite when you're in doubt, write when you're uncomfortable, and just go for it.
Speaker ABecause I wanted to do this for a long time, and I proved that dreams do not expire.
Speaker ASo just write and go for it.
Speaker ADo your research.
Speaker APick your publishing company, pick your illustrator, and go for it.
Speaker AWhat's meant to be is going to be.
Speaker BIn other words, don't throw your stories in a box.
Speaker BNope.
Speaker ADon't put them on a show.
Speaker AKeep writing a thousand times if you have to.
Speaker BYou know what?
Speaker BAnd you've hit it right on the button.
Speaker BMy granddaughter and I, we wrote our first story, and she was so excited about it, she said, papa, can we write the titles to the next stories?
Speaker BAnd we ended up writing probably 15 or 20 titles of the next stories in our adventures because that's something that she wanted to do.
Speaker BAnd I still have the journal where we wrote them all down.
Speaker BIt was pretty special.
Speaker BAnd, like, you said, even if all the stories aren't coming to you in full, write down even the bare minimum to get you started.
Speaker BAnd.
Speaker BAnd you can come back to it.
Speaker AYou can.
Speaker AThe sweet play date Club.
Speaker AI didn't find the idol to the very, very end.
Speaker AOh, and that was stressful.
Speaker BLet's pick up on that for a second.
Speaker BAnd I'm glad you mentioned this, because most people, the children's book authors I've talked to, generally have their title before anything else.
Speaker BAnd I know that we did.
Speaker BWe had the Adventures of Caboose, the Rocky Mountain Bear.
Speaker BWe had the title.
Speaker BWe just didn't have anything else.
Speaker BIn your case, you didn't have the title to the very end, so.
Speaker AThe very, very end.
Speaker BSo take us through that.
Speaker AActually, I was being pushed to hurry.
Speaker BUp with the fight, but.
Speaker BSo what did you have in mind?
Speaker BWhat was your what originally?
Speaker BWhat did you think?
Speaker BWhat was the process?
Speaker AI feel first, I knew it was going to be something play date, because it was all about play dates, right?
Speaker AOr something teamwork or friendship or.
Speaker ABut it was so broad.
Speaker ASo I said I didn't know what to do.
Speaker AMy family and my nieces and nephews were all with me throughout this journey.
Speaker AAnd my little one, Quinn, says to me, you know, let's.
Speaker AI want to do one of the recipes I want to try.
Speaker ASo it's.
Speaker AIt's like getting warm.
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker AIt's in June.
Speaker AAnd I said, oh, let's do the ice pop.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AAnd while we're making it, she's trying it out before she puts it in the.
Speaker AYou want to scoop the dough and eat it?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASo she wants to try the ice cream.
Speaker AAnd I said, oh, it's pretty hot right now.
Speaker AShe says, no, let's try it.
Speaker ALet's try.
Speaker AOkay, fine.
Speaker AShe goes, wow, this is really sweet.
Speaker AThis is a street play date.
Speaker AThat's why it came about.
Speaker BWow.
Speaker AAt the very end.
Speaker AAnd I emailed.
Speaker ASo emailed Mary and laundry right away.
Speaker ATitle.
Speaker BThat is fantastic.
Speaker BYou're the first one to take us through that again.
Speaker BTo aspiring children's book authors.
Speaker BYou know, don't get caught up in trying to come up with the perfect title.
Speaker BLive your story, share it with others, and like Luz has done, and make sure you have the time.
Speaker BI don't knock to the last second, but you have the time.
Speaker ANo, don't do what I did.
Speaker AIt worked out.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BNo, that.
Speaker BThat's fantastic.
Speaker BOne thing I also wanted to mention to you is I'm going to put you in contact with a children's book author I interviewed recently.
Speaker BHer name is Jessica McAnelli, episode 56.
Speaker BAnd she actually wrote a children's book on food safety.
Speaker BFood Safety in the Kitchen.
Speaker BBut it's a children's book.
Speaker BI'll send her a little email for you and then you guys can hook up.
Speaker BMaybe there's something there that you guys can do together.
Speaker AI'm sure I can learn a lot from her.
Speaker BFantastic encouragement for readers.
Speaker BWhy should people purchase your book?
Speaker AOkay, I think one, it will keep them away from the screens for a little while.
Speaker AIt would help to work together, include each other.
Speaker AAnd for the parents, I want to say it opens up conversations about teamwork, friendship, cultural appreciation.
Speaker AAnd most of all, I think it reminds families how powerful these simple little moments together make everlasting memories.
Speaker ABecause these are memories that I'm sharing with you that I actually recommend through with my child.
Speaker BThat's terrific.
Speaker BAnd the thing, like I said to you at the beginning and I love is that rather than involve a mother, you involved a grandmother.
Speaker BThat triggered such fond memories for me of my granddaughter actually baking with my mother.
Speaker BSo that's multi generational.
Speaker BAnd we have a picture of them in the kitchen doing that together.
Speaker AThis is a takeaway.
Speaker AYour memory, your memory.
Speaker BThank you for sharing that.
Speaker BFinal thoughts.
Speaker BIs there anything that you would like to share that you said, oh, I wish Rick would have asked me that question.
Speaker BIs there something that you'd like to share with the audience?
Speaker AYou did a really good job and you know what?
Speaker AI was very nervous.
Speaker AI don't even know how it all sounds, but I feel very comfortable with you and I really appreciate you.
Speaker ARick, thank you for having me here.
Speaker AObviously, I want to thank my family, my husband, my daughter who made it all happen.
Speaker AThank you so much.
Speaker AIt was so much fun with you today.
Speaker AI truly admire what you created with Caboose.
Speaker AI love the heart behind it.
Speaker AI love that it's a family thing done together.
Speaker AYou know, my book is about family together too.
Speaker AAnd I enjoyed every little bit of Maureen sharing a little sweetness with you.
Speaker BThank you.
Speaker BSo, Luz, thank you for being a guest on the Adventures in the Heart of Children's Book Authors podcast.
Speaker BYour generosity of time, your insights will significantly help aspiring children's book authors who, like you said, just take action.
Speaker BAnd also, I hope this inspires readers because you have a very special book.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BWe promise to provide our audience with links to Luz's social media.
Speaker BAnd when her website goes live, we'll definitely ask her to send us that and we'll make sure that the link to our website goes into our Show Notes and if you've enjoyed this episode, please hit the subscribe button to listen to our future episodes and feel free to share this episode with anyone inspired by or who enjoys hearing about Luz and her children's book, Sweet Play Date Club.
Speaker BThank you.
Speaker AThank you.
Speaker AThank you so much.
Speaker ARick.