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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Beneath the noise of everyday life lies a wild and beautiful reality. Magical realms, where the creatures who inhabit them are more than just fairy stories to delight children.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: They are archetypes to live into teachers of infinite worth and lifelong friends and companions.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Our next guest will share with us the secrets of a magical life.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Hi, and welcome to the you world order, showcase, podcast where we feature life, health, transformational coaches and spiritual entrepreneurs stepping up to be the change they seek in the world. I'm your host, Jill Hart, the coach's alchemist, on a mission to help coaches and entrepreneurs amplify their voice, monetize their mission and get visible leveraging podcasts. And the huge audience we have over on the Gnostic TV network. Today, we are chatting with Alicia, Levino

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: adventurer, modern, mystic and author of the book, The Heretic. Welcome to the show, Alicia. It's so exciting to have you here with us.

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Allysha Lavino: Yay, thank you so much for inviting me, Jill.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I'm really looking forward to this conversation, as I've told you many times, because I'm all about the magic, and I need to ask you the big question first.st Are you ready.

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Allysha Lavino: I'm ready.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: What's the most significant thing in your opinion, as individuals, we can do to make an impact on how the world is going.

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Allysha Lavino: So the simple.

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Allysha Lavino: dead, simple answer is, Be you because you have a magic that no one else can bring, like you, fit perfectly into the intricate puzzle of everything, and we desperately need you and your gifts.

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Allysha Lavino: And the slightly longer answer is what that looks like is being present in this moment in your body, which means doing whatever healing work you need to to move through the trauma so that you can be here. It means being courageous, and letting yourself say what there is for you to say. Take action where there is for you to take action and getting whatever support you need to show up as you in this world.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Cast.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: We need people to just be themselves. Turn your light, switch on and let it shine, and

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: anybody else who is there to like, throw a basket on it.

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Allysha Lavino: Well, the ancient Celts talked about that we all live in this great interconnected pattern, and lots of cultures have a way of describing this. And the idea is that when we are actually living our truth, living our authentic lives, being ourselves that we fit perfectly, and that interweaves with everything else. The trouble we have now is that our society is built around not doing that. And so we have a lot of things that don't fit and are all tangled up.

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Allysha Lavino: but as each of us starts to just like play the note, you picture a spider web like each, each strand has its own vibration for that spider. Like as we each learn to be the unique note that we are in the chorus of creation, it starts to actually sound harmonious.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Kiss and and all the crazy crazy is great.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Crazy is excitement. Crazy is uniqueness. It's it's allowing people to just explore what they're here to explore and share what they're here to share. Because you never know. I mean.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: yeah, I talk to unicorns. Okay.

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Allysha Lavino: I'm with you. I mean, the funny thing is, I come from a background of psychology and inside of psychology. What we can show is that we actually don't know if any of this exists, or if it's being created in my mind like, I don't know that for sure. I know that I'm having an experience of it. And so from there, at a pretty young age, you know, from my early University days I came to understand that my experience

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Allysha Lavino: is, what matters your experience is, what matters? It's for me. I talk a lot about magic, but it's not about belief. It's about what I experience and choosing to live a life that brings me joy.

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Allysha Lavino: and for me I can't know if it's real and true. Certainly science can't prove it.

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Allysha Lavino: but at the same time, science can't prove definitively to me that you exist, Jill. You might be just being created in.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's gonna be a dream right?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Honestly, could all be a dream and not exist at all.

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Allysha Lavino: And that's the real science of it, like that's the real science of it. From my subjective perspective, I can't know that. And so if we want to expand that to something else, like conversations with unicorns that bring an experiential depth

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Allysha Lavino: and a joy into your life, into my life like for me. That is, that is deeply okay. We all get to choose what reality we live in. Well, it's let's say, not harming others. And all of these good, these good work together ethics that that come along with it. But for me, magic isn't about believing.

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Allysha Lavino: I call it the physics of the invisible world. And so what we see is that there are certain ways that things do work repeatedly over time, and that they are difficult to measure with the tools of modern science, but that actually.

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Allysha Lavino: you can. You can learn them, and you can get good at them. And they include all kinds of things that help you to really be your authentic self in the world, and hilariously not even be considered that weird. I write about magic talk about magic people. Ask me what I do, and I'm like, Oh, I train people to wield their magic. And consistently people say, Oh, that's awesome. They don't say, Oh, you weirdo!

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, because they want it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Everybody wants that secretly, we're all just little kids. And we want to pretend again.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And we've been trained for so long that you must not pretend you must not have an imagination. You must not talk to imaginary people. You must not do this, and you must not do that, and God forbid you daydream for 5 min in a day all the things that you really need to be doing

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: to know who you are, and to be able to work your magic in the world

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: because you're here to do something special. We all are.

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Allysha Lavino: It's tricky, too, because from a societal perspective, and there have been a lot of mechanisms in place for generations to keep people from discovering who they are, uniquely because

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Allysha Lavino: it might be harder to get people to work in a cubicle. It will be harder to get people to toe the line in certain ways. When we're fully awake and pursuing our own path, we will come up with amazing solutions for the problems that this world has. We will come up with ingenious solutions and ways to work together that we haven't even dreamed of yet.

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Allysha Lavino: and

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Allysha Lavino: some of the things that people are doing that are eating, their souls are going to have to be mechanized.

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Allysha Lavino: We have the technology to do that. And so it's all there. All the building blocks are there. But we fundamentally still live in the society that has for thousands of years worked to keep people from waking up to keep people from realizing. You know what that magic is inside of us.

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Allysha Lavino: and that peer pressure and call it that it's still there, right. No, don't.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Beer.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's fear, and it's it's a calculated

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: thing that is is put on people to enslave them, because you can't enslave people who believe they are magic.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: they? Yeah, they really body magic. You can't enslave those kinds of people because they're just like, Oh, plot twist! And they're they're squirreling off on the side.

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Allysha Lavino: And the truth is, even if you manage to capture their bodies, you you can't you? You fundamentally can't capture the heart and soul of someone who is free on the inside. You just can't.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You can't.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: The only prisons that really exist are the ones between your ears.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's it's a choice that we make.

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Allysha Lavino: Now that said, there are amazing things that can happen to human beings that require

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Allysha Lavino: support and healing and things in order to really be able to be present with

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Allysha Lavino: the beings that we are. So I think it's important to acknowledge, when we're talking about terrible things that might happen on the outside

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Allysha Lavino: that without tools, without support, without knowing how to come back to that magical self. We don't always have the natural resilience to stay in that place because we weren't taught our culture? Doesn't. Our culture doesn't train us to be magical, free thinking, expansive beings connected with the universe. That's not what they're trying to do.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: They they want us to be.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: They want us to conform so that we can be enslaved, and every everything that happens to us in this society is is a tool towards enslavement

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and beings that are just like, well, you know, there, there are ways around that

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: to be really loud about it. But there's ways around that. And just you just choose to live your life differently.

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Allysha Lavino: Yeah, there are a lot of ways to live without. There are a lot of ways to live, even within the system without being a cog in the system. You don't have to jam it up. You don't have to, you know, you just

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Allysha Lavino: and then enough people figured that out.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And and that therein lies the magic. If enough of us figure that out and just start moving in a direction that's more

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: more in alignment with who we were designed to be.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Then

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: then the shift will happen. It doesn't have to be a revolution, and people don't have to shoot each other, and we don't have to have one side has to be right, and the other side is wrong.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: We can just be.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And if each of us could just be.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Then then the shift will happen, and

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and life will be better for everyone, even those that are still caught in that good, bad paradigm that.

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Allysha Lavino: No.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: To be right, wrong.

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Allysha Lavino: And I think that's what's really happening right now, Joe.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I do, too. I can feel it. It's just like

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: the last 5 years I've been a huge.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: a huge monumental shift for humanity as a whole, and it's not like one country or another. It's all the countries I talked to people all over the world, and they're all feeling this. I'm just like.

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Allysha Lavino: The evolution of humanity.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, we're witnessing it on a global scale. It's it's, it is magic. It's magical.

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Allysha Lavino: Yeah, I'm really excited about where we're at as a species.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So tell me about your book, the heretic.

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Allysha Lavino: Yay. So this is actually very much in line with what we've been talking about. The backstory of it is, my mentor

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Allysha Lavino: was the man who actually found the codes in the churches of the south of France that inspired the Da Vinci code. So he found these real codes. He got led on this mystery adventure himself. And then he wrote the nonfiction books, but when it became fictionalized it became very sensationalized.

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Allysha Lavino: and it really missed the mark like it, just didn't. It no longer led to what he had discovered? And so

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Allysha Lavino: I met him. I was leading Tours in the south of France, and he was looking for somebody. He was 83 years old, and wanted somebody to carry on the work, carry on his legacy, and write the book that he thought was needed, and the tricky part about it

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Allysha Lavino: is that it was deeply spiritual. And the reason it was deeply spiritual is maybe not that it's inherently spiritual information, because it's based in math and science, like what he found, was a secret that our ancestors had worked really, really hard to preserve. And it was about the math and science of how the world works so very, very cool, interesting, fact-based stuff, but what it must have meant to them

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Allysha Lavino: because of the lengths our ancestors went to preserve it.

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Allysha Lavino: It it must have been spiritual. It must have been something so much more generation after generation, you know this is the same type of thing of what it must have taken to build Stonehenge like. Why would you build Stonehenge? It's so much work like it must be more than just a clock.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Cool guy in coral of the coral castles, the little little tiny human being.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: He didn't have much of an education. He was moving ton pound rocks.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Okay.

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Allysha Lavino: Technology was there, and and there's no problem with that. But like just an example of Stonehenge, like the bluestone that was brought in for 200 miles away, like, why did they do that? Why didn't they just use local rock? So there's all these things that we're seeing

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Allysha Lavino: the old ones doing that you're like. Why, it was so much harder than doing something different or not doing that. And when you start to tug on that thread

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Allysha Lavino: What what happened for me is that I fell down a rabbit hole of magical experiences, so nothing to believe but going to certain places and doing certain things, and following the clues, led me on this magical journey. And so that's fundamentally what the book is about is it's the magical journey. Following these clues and along the way

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Allysha Lavino: really get to experience

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Allysha Lavino: the spiritual journey like the the transformation for yourself. It's written in a style that we call visionary fiction. And so it it essentially is designed to

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Allysha Lavino: invoke a spiritual adventure in the reader if they choose. Now you can read it just like a great, a novel, a thriller whatever. But if you choose to open up to it, it teaches you techniques for touching in with your own magic. It

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Allysha Lavino: it connects with the mysteries of the divine feminine in the south of France. It really shows some of the codes that are in the churches, so it's got all of the facts. But it's also got a a lot of this beautiful.

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Allysha Lavino: you know. Divine mystery.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Oh, that sounds so fascinating!

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Definitely gonna read it.

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Allysha Lavino: It's fun. I'm about to embark on a 6 week journey through the south of France, researching the sequel. So I leave in just a few days. And I'm really excited because it's this kind of thing where I have some information. And I'm gonna go follow some clues. And I have absolutely no idea what's going to happen but

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Allysha Lavino: but I have very little doubt that it will be an initiatory journey of some kind.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Wow!

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So I know you write over on substack.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So will you be documenting like your journey? And can we like follow along with you?

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Allysha Lavino: That would be amazing. Unfortunately, I am actually going to funnel it all into the sequel.

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Allysha Lavino: So one of the things I've noticed through the years is that when I when I talk about things, when I write about them in sideways ways, it tends to kind of dilute them. And so I'm actually going to go into this bubble for the next 6 weeks. I've got amazing guest writers showing up on my sub stack and and I'm gonna channel.

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Allysha Lavino: All of my writing efforts into the next book is called The Martyr. So I'm going to be channeling everything into the martyr. And then, when I come back out where I'm really going to share what's happened, I hope, is in the live events that we have on substack. So I have

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Allysha Lavino: an amazing community. Hi! Heretics! We have the inner sanctum of heretics over on. It's mystery, magic and mayhem. So you can just literally go to Www. Dot mystery magic mayhem.com to find the sub stack, and it's we do trainings like. Throughout the month we have 4 different live events that

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Allysha Lavino: are designed to help you train your magic and that's, I think, where a lot of the the real time

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Allysha Lavino: yeah, energy and experience and and stories of France is going to come through and what I'm hoping to do. I shouldn't even say this here, because I don't know if it's going to come through, but I do a a beautiful kind of like a guided meditation. It's a transmission that comes kind of through me to help people align their energy and learn how to manage energy in a human body which is

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Allysha Lavino: really super tricky. We're not taught how to do it, and what I'm hoping to do is put up on the sub stack energy magic transitions from the different magical places and power sites in the south of France. So that's my dream. I'm hoping that it aligns to come through

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Allysha Lavino: but that's how I'm hoping to help people connect with my journey. But instead of me telling them what's happening to me, actually invite them to go on their own journey.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love this. I love this so much.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's not not what I expected at all, but just like

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: so fascinating. I remember reading Dan Brown's books

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: 20 some years ago, was pregnant with my youngest child. They had just come out, and

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I'm a binge reader. I admit it. I can't just sit down and read a chapter or 2. I have to clear up a day or 2, and I just like I walk

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: waddle into the beginning, and I'll march my way all the way through the book.

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Allysha Lavino: I love that this is definitely one that goes one of 2 ways. So I've had people sit down and read it in a weekend, and it is. It's a literary style. Writing is really important to me. So the caliber of the writing is not.

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Allysha Lavino: It's it's a little bit different from Dan Brown. Let's say that.

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Allysha Lavino: But one of the things that happens with the heretic in particular is for those who choose to go on a spiritual journey. You'll pick it up and you'll get really into it, and you'll read the 1st 7 10 chapters, and then you'll put it down, and things will be mulching and moving inside you, and you'll you'll want to pick it up, and you'll be looking at it there on the nightstand, and for some reason 10 days will go past.

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Allysha Lavino: and then, all of a sudden, you'll pick it up and read through a whole nother section, and I can almost tell you the page number that you'll set it down on every time, because there are these energy upgrades that come through at different points in the book. And so you know, they get to hear. And then, okay, set it down, integrate that, and then go to the next one. Okay, sit it down and integrate it, and then pick it up again.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Oh, that's fun! That's really fun!

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Allysha Lavino: It's a different. It's a different kind of read sometimes in that way.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You know, it sounds like an interactive book.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and and having having your community on substack just makes it

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: all that much more yummy because it's like you can read it, and you can be part of this community and and

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: help

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: talk to other people sometimes just the the exercise of having a conversation with somebody who's having a different experience. You're doing the same thing as in reading your book. But we're having different experiences

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: because of the same. Input.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And it's it's often interesting to see how that, how that shares out and into.

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Allysha Lavino: It is.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Verse.

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Allysha Lavino: And it can really deepen the experience as well. Like most of the people.

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Allysha Lavino: a lot of the people on my sub stock either found me because they were fans of the heretic, or they come in and learn about the heretic later and read it. And it's nice because it is, there's a background there when you're when you're reading it. You're involved with other people who have either been on that journey or there's references to it. But the other thing that we do as part of the sub stock is, we have what we call the heretic Reading Circle, but it's a magical book club.

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Allysha Lavino: So every month we read a different magical book.

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Allysha Lavino: and then we get together and talk about it. And it's amazing to see how just talking about your experience of something makes a difference for others, and how listening to what showed up for them, because that cross pollination inside of magical conversations is is so powerful, and it also gives you a place to talk about these amazing deep ideas in a safe space where everyone is

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Allysha Lavino: totally magical and awesome. And and you can actually have.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Their own way. They just I I look at magic as just science that hasn't been explained yet, but.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: But does it make it that they didn't happen? It just means we can't explain it. It did happen

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Allysha Lavino: That's just that's a really normal phenomenon. There are people who all of us get intuitions about different things. There are more neurons in your gut than there are in your brain. There are all these pieces, and it's so simple like, science can totally explain this. The system is so complex

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Allysha Lavino: and those things have been passed down to us. But there's also a lot that we can glean and recover from using our intuitive senses. And these are really powerful ways of knowing, you know, for those who are on the Gnostic side of it, like it's this kind of internal knowing, like Gnosticism, of really gaining knowledge through a personal experience.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah. And it's just goes back to being beings and letting our light shine and.

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Allysha Lavino: there are a lot of things that we can learn to support ourselves in that everything, from how to manage the energy of the body, and breathing in simple ways that that move things through

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: We were talking about that before we started. And it it really I can feel the shift happening, and the more of us that are are embracing this, the more the planet and it it really is. Everyone.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Well, anything underneath that and all of these different things. And why.

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Allysha Lavino: Well, I think underneath that there's a there's a really profound longing for, for belonging, for for love to really be deeply okay. And the joke is that you know we know that that path of success in doing everything right doesn't lead to that feeling of belonging, even though we may fit in, and it doesn't lead to being deeply loved, even though we may be admired.

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Allysha Lavino: and when we give all of that up, it's it's right there the whole time we we do belong. You do belong here you were. You are a creature of earth, this life at least.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And I, I talk to trees, too. And they they respond. I've.

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Allysha Lavino: And they talk back right? They do.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I've had so many experiences with trees and with nature. I had one experience. My most recent one was this this tree that I transplanted. It's a good size tree. It was maybe a couple years old, and we moved it from my son's house, which used to be my house

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Allysha Lavino: It's amazing what happens when we actually tap in, when we contribute to the great conversation that's happening all around us.

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Allysha Lavino: Oh, I love that.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Does does make me tear up. I'm sorry.

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Allysha Lavino: No, don't apologize for that. That's beautiful.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: This makes me so happy. I love trees so much. I have a very, a relatively not large yard. It's not small, but I have over a hundred trees on it. I planted personally about 40 or 50 of them. The rest are volunteers.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: They just come, and I'm going to have a forest soon, and when I 1st moved here, 5 years ago, there was one tree in my backyard.

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Allysha Lavino: Oh, wow! That's amazing!

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, they're coming to visit me, and they're growing, and I love it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I even have a lemon tree that sits in my office. That's right, right. You can't see it. But the leaf just dropped down

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So I just great things happen.

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Allysha Lavino: There there is. There's a i like to talk about it like a conversation. There's a conversation that's happening around us, and when we stop to listen, and when we take the time to participate, and when we dare, because sometimes we feel like, Oh, you know, do I actually have the capacity. Yes, absolutely. Everyone has the capacity and the intuition to participate in the conversation. It's just the mind

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Allysha Lavino: saying like, whatever it's saying, and that's not helpful. You can actually just let the mind in on the conversation and say, Well, thank you. Mind, that's a really interesting perspective. Hold on just a second. We're going to listen to what this bush has to say, and just listen.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: you do get downloads. We all get downloads. We all know, just know things, and it's not.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's it's your intuition. And it's the god piece that's in you that

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's just that some people are more tuned in than others.

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Allysha Lavino: Well, and some people have more practice. And some people have gifts that we're more familiar with. So people who have psychic seeing where they physically see something. We're more familiar with that. Whereas if you are tuned into people's emotions, you're actually going to be able to tune into the health of a landscape.

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Allysha Lavino: But we're not trained to translate that skill right? So there, there are so many gifts. And this is what I do that I get really excited about, because everyone has different gifts, and if you have sort of a mainstream.

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Allysha Lavino: I don't mean mainstream, but I mean a gift that we're more familiar with clairvoyance. There are a lot of ways to train in clairvoyance. But if your gift is fundamentally like working with time, seeing the whole scope of time and the way that it interacts, and finding timelines and ways to move within, that

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Allysha Lavino: nobody's training that like, how do you? How do you even learn that you have that gift.

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Allysha Lavino: there are a lot of different schools of healing, but there are people who are healing landscapes. There are people who are healing individual like places. There are people who are healing other humans. There are people who were working with all different levels of ways of healing.

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Allysha Lavino: And so what fundamentally what I do is my gift is working with the other side, working with my team, the divine, your team and messages come through me, and it's not quite like channeling. I call myself a divine translator, because what comes through is practices and information to help people train their gifts. So I don't need to know how it works.

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Allysha Lavino: I get told how it works. And then I have a pretty extensive basic education in magic, which I've been working in and playing in for the past 25 years and more.

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Allysha Lavino: That allows me to really work with people on an individual basis. Sometimes in in the groups. We do a lot of trainings, but but really in one, on one coaching through magical mentorship,

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Allysha Lavino: helping people to to just just to level up like the people. And and for the most part I work with people who are

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Allysha Lavino: wanting to make a difference in the world. So whether you have, you know, you know you have magical powers, and you want to train them because you're starting a business, whether you are stepping more and more into sharing those gifts with the world like it's especially the people who

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Allysha Lavino: who haven't spent a lifetime training. But who kind of want to fast track that to to get to where you're just able to train yourself in a in a real way. So

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Allysha Lavino: anyway, I get, I get really excited about that.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love it, Alicia, I love it. And so you're you're offering.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Your standard offer is just that. And I say just.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: it's an amazing offer the 1st 3 chapters of your novel

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: to help people connect with their own magic, and people can find that over at Alicia.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: labano.com, the heretic sneak preview. And there's little hyphens between each of those words

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: after the slash, and we'll put that in the show notes. But how can people you. You made

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: you made a a beautiful offer

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: that you tried to explain to me before we got started.

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Allysha Lavino: But I didn't.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Write it down. So I'm going to let you explain what that is going to be for people who are finding you through this podcast.

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Allysha Lavino: That's great. Jill, yeah. So if anyone who is interested in the book, I always do the 1st 3 chapters so that you can decide if it's right for you, because we all know how books go. You know you're either going to like it or you're not so you can try it out to see if you do like it. But for this.

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Allysha Lavino: so I wanted to offer all of Jill's listeners a free month in our community of heretics over at mystery magic mayhem.com. So the best way to do that is actually just to reach out to me.

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Allysha Lavino: You can get me through my website, alicialovino.com

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Allysha Lavino: you can find me over on substack, Alicia Levino. And you can just email me directly. It's literally one@aliciano.com, and just let me know that you found me through the coaches, alchemist and I will handle the rest and get you all set up with a free month in our magical community. So that's

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Allysha Lavino: 4 different events throughout the month to help you train your magic and an amazing community of seekers who is just absolutely waiting to cheer you on and find out what you're up to in the world and support you in that. So

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Allysha Lavino: it sounds like a great community.

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Allysha Lavino: It's it's so good. It's the kind of thing where, if I found it on online and it hadn't, you know, hadn't been a part of making it. I would be so excited to be part of it, and to get to go to all of the events.

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Allysha Lavino: and like How get to really meet and and know these folks has been. Honestly, it's it's really incredible. It's it's an honor and and a blast.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That's so amazing.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And people can find you at the mystery magic mayhem.com, and that's her sub stack, and you can

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You can subscribe over there and paid subscribers get to be part of her community

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: as well as free subscribers. Get her.

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Allysha Lavino: Resubscript.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Puts up there.

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Allysha Lavino: Yeah, free subscribers get all my writing. I never pay all my writing so free. Subscribers get. All the things I write about, which is my my adventures, my research insights, techniques on how to train your magic. The whole conversation is really how to train your magic as well as you get to kind of watch me

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Allysha Lavino: bumping my way down the trail right? Because I'm human, too. So as I learn something, you're getting the real time kind of what's going on here, and you get to watch kind of my process and figuring it out, and how I turn to my guides, and how I resource myself to continue on that journey which I think is is really helpful for people to

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Allysha Lavino: learn and and see how to do that themselves. I also I'm a writer. I try and make it as as entertaining as possible along the way writing is is where my passion really lies. So.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Perfect. And then the Alicia lavino.com website is where people can find out about your coaching and sub stack.

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Allysha Lavino: Yeah, so, and that's where you would learn more about the energy magic that I do. Learning to really how your energy body works. We're trained to take care of our health, but we're not trained to manage our energy body. You can learn just about different

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Allysha Lavino: aspects. I lead tours in France. There are a lot of little pieces, and there's a bit of a rabbit hole that you can fall down in terms of information about the heretic and the adventures I've been on there. So yeah, lots of different pieces. The main thing, 2 websites, Alicia levito.com mystery magicma. After that, if you're into it. There's a lot of stuff to explore.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Awesome thanks. So much for joining us today, Alicia. This has been a magical conversation.

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Allysha Lavino: Yay, thank you, Jill. This has been great.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: To learn more about Alicia, and to find the 1st 3 chapters of the heretic for free. Please visit the mystery, magicmayhem.com, and consider subscribing to her publication over on substack.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and we'll be sure to put all these links in the show notes below. Thank you for tuning in with us today. If you have a podcast or you're interested in starting one to get your message in front of our huge and active audience, be sure to reach out to us at jill@gnostictv.com. We love to help spiritual entrepreneurs and coaches, amplify their voice and monetize their mission, and offer a variety of ways to do this on the Gnostic TV network platform

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