Bernard:

Welcome back to the Daily Bible Podcast! We're so glad you've joined us. And now your host Pastor Rod and his assistant, Junior Pastor PJ!

PJ:

Yeah. I would agree with everything that you said

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Hey. Thanks there, Bernard. That's that's really, he only speaks the truth. Does he? He only speaks the truth. Yeah. That's what you programmed him to say is it did. Did you ever grow up watching home improvement? I did. Yeah. I loved it. I feel like Bernard is taking some shots maybe towards me, like Tim took shots at Al in, in that. I don't know. I don't know why I get that impression. Just that is Hey. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. It's weird. I don't think so. Bernard, I think you're. I think you're feeling attacked. Am I? But it's only in your head, man. I need to calm down. I think so, man. Yeah. I This is what they, this is this part of that paranoia that we talked about. Yeah. You're afraid and concerned about things that aren't really happening and, yeah. It's, Hey it's you. It not me. It, yeah. Yeah. I guess I just need to shake it off. I don't know. I think so. Yeah. Maybe, anyways midweek Thursday. Hey, last night we don't know how it went, but Adventure Club kicked off midweek and it did. I'm sure it was fantastic. I'm sure I trust. If not, then we will let you guys know when we hear about it. But no, we, I'm sure it was great. We're excited about it. It's it's like ana e except different in that it's a, an approach of systematic theology. Ana spends a lot of time focused on memorizing scripture, which is great. Awesome. And this does as well. We love it. Yeah, this does as well. But it also marries it with the component of systematic theology. And so our kids are gonna be learning big topics. And so systematic theology, if that's a term that you're going, okay, what does that look like? It takes a subject about God and traces it through the full corpus of theology. Of the Bible. The Bible, yeah. And so you're gonna be looking at a system of God. So for example, soteriology is the study of salvation. So you're gonna look at, from beginning to end the study of salvation all the way through, you're gonna look at ology, which is the study of sin. You're gonna look at that from the beginning to end. What do, how can we see the doctrine of sin develop? Throughout. And so it's just a one way of looking at theology that's really helpful to be able to do. And it's gonna be great for our kiddos. They're gonna be learning big things about God, which they're capable to do of doing we trust and it's gonna be a great time for them. Did you learn systematic theology when you were just a tyke? No. I would kill for this opportunity. Totally. This is in fact, if you're a teacher for this thing, you're gonna love it. You're gonna learn so much, just learning the things that you have to teach to your children. So this is such a good thing. If you're not taking part of it, man, we would love to have you. Consider that. Yeah. And I don't even know why you wouldn't at this point. Maybe it's a bad night of the week, but this is worth it. There are so many things that are gonna ask for your time, sports and other cool curricular, extracurricular activities. Fantastic. God bless those things. This is really awesome though. They're really sweet. I'm really glad my kids get to be part of this and I can't wait to see what comes about from all of this teaching and I don't even know what's the first category of theology we're covering? Do you know? I don't know. Me neither. We probably should know that though. We'll find out. I wonder it. My, my guess would be theology, proper, the study of God. That would make sense. That's usually the first place to start. Yeah. Unless they're like super systematic theology and they're doing ProGo. I was wondering, yeah, ProGo, which means don't even worry about it guys. This is the first things. First. First things. Yeah. Like here's setting the table, setting the context, that kind of thing. Hey, a book that I'm working through that I would commend to people out there is called The Deep Things of God, and it's by Fred Sanders. And so I've been enjoying that so far. What are some of those deep things? Give us a few highlights. Somewhat readable. The book is focused on the Trinity. He has another book that he wrote on the Trinity, but this one it also focuses on that. And one of the things that I've just appreciated early on is just how he connects the idea of the Trinity, our concept of the Trinity to the. Gospel itself and basically says if you know the gospel, then you've experienced the trinity. Whether you realize it or not, he says this, he says, anyone who has encountered God in Christ through the Holy Spirit has come to know the Trinity, but not everybody in this position knows that they know the Trinity. So part of his whole, our argument here is trying to remove the trinity from the realm of the academic and bring it into the realm of the relational, which is great, and it's something that's needed because the concept of the Trinity can be terrifying. It can be one of these big, frightening. Obtuse things that we don't really know how to explain. And that's, that is true in part, but it also does show up in how we relate to God on a daily basis. And so we are to his point, interacting with the Trinity even without realizing we're interacting with the Trinity. So true. And I think it doesn't get a lot of hang time because in part it is a difficult subject to broach and to do well, and there's ways that you can talk about the Trinity that are automatically heresy. You gotta be careful with that. Yes. But you just preached on that this coming Sunday or this last Sunday rather. Yes. You talked about the Trinity and their role. They as in the Tri Trinity, but singularly God, his, the way that he saved us. Yep. Yeah. So you guys can come back to our church and listen to the Trinity being talked about. There you go. Yeah. In fact, he makes the point that Evangelicals by and large have kind of kept this doctrine on the shelf because when, because of that, because of the fact that we're uncomfortable with it. And he said when we should be because of its connection with the gospel that Evangel, which is where we get our name evangelical, that we should be some of the ones that are championing the doctrine of the Trinity the most. And yeah, I'm five or six chapters in, but so far really enjoying, it's. Pretty readable. Fred Sanders. It's called The Deep Things of God. Subtitle, how The Trinity Changes Everything. So there you go. Wow. Let's, how about you? What are you reading right now? Any recommend recommendations you throw out there? Mostly lately I'm reading books about writing. Yes. And I thank God for that all of my reading has been assigned and it's about how to write like an academic, how to write with clarity, how to edit yourself and one here's one freeing idea and it relates to preaching and it relates to sermon prep. I have found that there's no one right way to do it. And in terms of truth, the way that people approach it, there are certain principles that are true always in forever. And I, that's the same thing when it comes to writing. There's grammar, there's syntax. You can't get rid of those. But the way that people get to the product, that's different. And that's been freeing for me. 'cause I always thought, I hate writing. I'm not a great writer. I can't believe that this is so hard. Why is this so hard? I give up, I shouldn't be alive. Those things, and I felt that way a lot of times. And I've been writing sermons and I've come to find out that. It's supposed to be really hard, and if you'll push your way through it and learn some approaches that work for you, it'll get better with time, they may not be easier, but the experience of psychological torture and hatred will lessen over time. Psychological torture. Yes. Sometimes it does feel that way. It is. Yeah. Yeah, but it's a work of love. Let's jump into our DBR for today. We've got Jeremiah 26 through 29. The famous, I almost said infamous. It's not infamous, the famous Jeremiah chapter 29. So we'll get there in just a minute, but Jeremiah 26 opens with some persecution coming after Jeremiah, and we are about 12 years earlier than we were in chapter 24. So we're about 6 0 9 BC now, and dealing with the reign of King Jo Hoya Kim. And that's why these markers are helpful for us to look at. Okay, who's on the throne and then we can get the date based on that. But Jeremiah has been prophesying and Jeremiah's been prophesying against Judah and been telling the people, Hey, this is what's gonna happen. This is what you need to do. Even in verse three he says, it may be that they will listen in. Every one of them will turn from his evil way. God still giving an opportunity at this point for the people to repent, and he would relent from his judgment. And yet the people's response is gonna be that they are going to. Want to kill Jeremiah. It doesn't necessarily go well for Jeremiah here, but Jeremiah's brought before the officials. The people are gonna do this by the book, at least at this point. And so they gather the officials at the city gate and that would've been where cases were heard it. They would, the elders of the town would come and sit in their seats outside the gate and the arguments would be made. And that's where they would issue their judgments there. That's where court was held. Exactly. Yeah. They didn't have the big buildings like we have or anything like that. Jeremiah, the whole time though, is gonna remain confident in the Lord. You'll notice in verse 12 he says, the Lord sent me to prophesy against this house, and he's still gonna say, Hey, you need to repent. Verse 13, recommend your ways and your deeds and obey the voice of the Lord. So even as they're trying to kill him, he's still faithful to God's purpose in his life, which is to go out and call them to repentance. And from this point the officials, after hearing this things out are gonna say, you know what? He's not done anything worthy of death. And this is a time of God sparing Jeremiah through the, even the wisdom of these earthly rulers, being able to see the fact that Jeremiah had not done anything that was worthy of death. And God uses a man named ah, hiku, or a Hiku who was with Jeremiah so that he was not given over the, to the people to be put to death. Verse 24. And this man served under Josiah. We find out in two Kings verse 22. You've got a guy who had the influence of Josiah such a positive in Godly King who's gonna be useful to Jeremiah here to help make sure that the people don't end up executing Jeremiah for his prophecies. Yeah. One of the cool things about this chapter in addition to the fact that it's really rad. I I love the way that Jeremiah responds to the crowd here, but I think important for you to know is why we're jumping back in time. What's happening here? What are we doing? Why is Jeremiah. Putting all this content together, why not just splice it in? And I think probably the easiest reason is that Jeremiah's intention was not to depict the people's response entirely. Here in this next section of chapters that we're gonna look at 26 through about 29, we're gonna find out how the people have been responding to his ministry. And so now we're gonna see what is conflict with Judah has looked like, and I think remarkably you find that Jeremiah responds so admirably. I love the fact that he says in verse 14, but as for me, behold, I'm in your hands. You do what seems good to you. You make your decisions, you go through your court case, but rest assured if you put me to death, you're bringing innocent blood upon yourselves. And so that's fascinating. All by itself, this man's life is in his hands, and that's what he says. You do what seems good. You do business with the Lord about that. But I also love that the way that they argue to, to save him is through biblical precedence. I think that's really cool. And not to mention, they're quoting Micah. They're using the prophet Micah to say, look, we didn't kill Micah when he was speaking against us. Why are we gonna kill Jeremiah? I love that biblical precedent, and I think for you and I that's so helpful, you ought to get used to practicing pulling out scripture to justify the way that you think about something. This is what God has given us the word for. He's given us these examples so that we can learn how to live and learn how to interact. And God uses this example to protect Jeremiah's life. And I think that's important for us to see because this is what a Christian does. We look at the whole corpus of scripture and utilize it. To make decisions and to learn how to think. This is a good example of that, pulling out scripture, but not pulling scripture out of context. That's right. Exegesis versus is esis. No, we didn't say eggs and Jesus, what did we say? Exegesis, which means what? PPJ. What's exegesis versus is esis. Exegesis is drawing truth out of the scripture. I said Jesus is reading truth into the scripture. What's the difference? Reading our desires into the scripture. So we, we are a church that's an expository preaching church that's based on exegetical preaching. That is, we're gonna go to the text and we're gonna draw the truths outta the text and preach those truths. We're not gonna come to the text with our preconceived ideas or biases or, I wanna preach a message on money. So let me go find a passage that fits what I want to say about money. And I'm gonna preach that regardless of the context around it, regardless of what it meant in its original time. I'm just gonna make it say what I want it to mean today. That's, I said, Jesus, that's reading. Our wisdom, our desires, our plans into God's word, rather than submitting all of that to God's word. Here's a good example. Let's say you're an MMA fighter. And on your boxing shorts, I don't have to work hard to figure this one out. Okay. That's right. This is exactly, this is basically you, yes. You put on your boxing shorts, Philippians four 13. Yes. Which says, I can beat up all people in the face through his power who strengthens me. Totally. Something like that right now that, I. It's funny, but I think that's happened. Oh yeah. And I think that's an inappropriate use of Philippians four 13. It may be a little bit and I think that's a good example of I of Jesus. Yeah. And it's a really comforting verse and certainly I understand why someone would wanna do that. 'cause it's way when your flag a little bit saying, this is my God. Yeah. I serve him. And I think people might misunderstand what the meaning of your boxer shorts mean if you're saying Philippians four 13 as you're pounding a guy in the face with your fist. Yeah. We will have another really good example in Jeremiah 29. In just a few minutes here. That's true. Yep. Exegesis versus Isis. Versus isis. Just tuck that one away. Alright. Hey, chapter seven real quick. Here is 27. 27. Thank you. Chapter 27. We are in Zet, Kai's reign. So we're now forward, we're in 5 97 BC and Yahweh is basically going to deliver the message to the nation's. And to zakiah that babylon's coming and they best not resist that this is part of his plan, that this is what he is doing here. And so he has the prophet do another living parable where he puts him in a yoke and the prophet walks around in a yoke, basically is saying, this is what God is doing. God is gonna bring you under this yoke, and you cannot resist. You should not resist. And so this is what Yahweh is gonna tell both the nations, and again, Zakiah. That he needs to make sure that to, to subject himself to what God is doing here. Now remember, Eze Kai is not gonna do this. Zika is one of the bad figs from chapter 24 verses eight through 10. And Zaka is not going to listen and he is gonna face the famine and the pestilence and the sword that God is gonna bring in response. But this is another uncomfortable moment for the prophet Jeremiah when he has to put on this yoke and walk around to show the people what God's gonna do through the nation of Babylon coming. Chapter 28. Not everybody was a fan of this method though, and so we run into another guy who is a false prophet named Nia, and this false prophet Nanaya. He is going to, it says in the same year, so 5 97. He is going to decide that. That he disagrees with the the message that's being delivered here. So he's gonna lie and prophesy peace, and he's gonna come and he's gonna break the yoke from off of Jeremiah, and he's gonna say, in two years, God's gonna make everything better. In two years, the people that were taken away, they're gonna come back. And so this guy is giving kinda a moving target. He's given him some, himself, some space here, so that if it doesn't happen right away, and he's probably hoping that he can work something out for himself in the meantime, but he just doesn't want to hear from Jeremiah anymore. Jeremiah then says you've broken a. A yoke of wood, God's gonna make a yoke of iron, and things are actually gonna get far worse than you can even imagine. And oh, by the way, Hannah and I, you're gonna die because you've been found opposing God and prophesy the lies in his name. How do you know? If you're Jeremiah's audience, how do you know that this guy, Hananiah isn't telling the truth besides the fact that Jeremiah's saying, Hey, this guy's not telling the truth, and we have the benefit of being able to look at chapter 28 and say, oh, yeah, okay, this is not the Lord. Jeremiah tells us and he's clearly operating by the power of the Spirit. Was there any tell for the people of Israel to say, oh man, Hania is clearly not a correct teacher in this? I think if they were students of the full corpus of prophetic. The prophetic ministry. You mentioned earlier that they knew about Micah at the time and they had known about some of the other prophets at the time. I think if they had been paying attention to the messages that God was consistently sending, then I think they would know, okay, this doesn't line up even with the rest of what Jeremiah had already been prophesying in the book. And in that sense, they would have. At least had to have been bring, brought to the crossroads of saying, what am I gonna choose? What am I gonna do here? Am I gonna choose to believe Jeremiah or am I gonna choose to believe Nia? And what have I seen God doing? What have I seen God fulfilling more of Hanna's messaging or Jeremiah's messaging. Yeah, that's really helpful. You're gonna, essentially what we're talking about is comparing scripture with scripture. They wouldn't have used this terminology because. That they didn't have that. But we can say that when someone comes to you in the name of the Lord and says, here's what God says to you. Here's how God says to live your marriage. Here's how God says you should do your job. You're always gonna say what does scripture say about that? Does it correspond to what I know to be true about this? Here's another question you may not be able to answer. I don't know if he can. Jeremiah 28, this he and I have false prophet guy. Is he doing this from his own volition or is he being compelled by demonic spirit? Yeah. Either are possible or a combination of those two things are possible. Interesting. Yeah. He may be deceived into making himself available as a tool of the enemy not realizing that. And he probably wanted this to be the case, right? I don't think he's just. Out there because he's nefarious and wants to throw a wrench in everybody's plans and deceive people. He probably wants this to be the case. Just like we, we look around our nation and we're like after this next administration, yeah, it'd be great to have another four years of a conservative administration that's gonna continue things in a good direction for us. Yeah. And so you'd be tempted to say, yeah, I wanna believe that because that's what I want. I don't want what this guy's saying over here. I want what this guy's saying here. And that requires a lot of discernment, our, on our end. But it could be. That. Yeah. He was not realizing that he was being used by the enemy, but being used by the enemy nonetheless. Interesting. Let's get to chapter 29. Since we've alluded to it a couple times. Jeremiah's gonna write a letter to those that were already in exile, so still around 5 97 and 5 96 bc and he's writing to them to give them an understanding of what they were to do. This is the good figs. So he's writing to the faithful remnant there, and he's gonna tell them, and this is where he tells them here, Hey, build houses there, live in them, plant gardens, eat the produce. This is interesting. He says, take wives and have sons and daughters and take wives for your sons and give them to give your daughters and marriage that they may bear sons and daughters and multiply and do not decrease. We read that now, I think. There's still an unspoken parameter there that would be in place in accordance with God's law. I don't think Jeremiah, in other words, is commending them or telling them they need to intermarry with the Babylonian people. A hundred percent. Yeah. So when he says this, he's saying amongst yourselves as the Israelites and even there when he says, so that you do not decrease, the implication would be that the nation would continue to increase, which would mean they would be marrying within the parameters of the law in obeying the law. Still in that absolutely. But at the same time, they should seek the welfare of the city. So not just of them as Israelites, but the welfare of the city as a whole. Paul's gonna talk in first Timothy chapter two. He's gonna say, Hey, pray for the governing authorities, that it would go well for us. So that ministry may multiply more quickly in, in essence is what he says there, so that it can go well for the church. And so he's saying the same thing there for the Israel. Seek the welfare of the city. In verse 10 he mentions the 70 years again and says, you're gonna come back in 70 years. And then we get to verse 11. And verse 11 is the one that says, for I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans for your welfare and not for evil. To give you a future and a hope. And that's the one we talked about. Iso Jesus, putting that on my boxer shorts when I fight. There we go. Yeah. Or the tape underneath your eyes or whatever. Yeah. Yeah and it sounds so great. The problem is contextually, this was as we've just been talking about for the exiles in Babylon, and God is making them a promise, saying to them, saying, to exile to Israel, Hey, I have a future for you and I'm gonna, I'm gonna work for your welfare and not for your evil. Now, does God tell us as Christians that he has a future force us that's gonna be good, that's gonna be for our plan, our benefit, and not for our evil? Maybe not in so many words, but the concept is there biblically in other passages. And so it's not wrong to believe, Hey, God is gonna deliver us into eternity, right? Let's talk about that for as second. Let's talk about Revelation 21. Like that future is ours and it's guaranteed and it's secure. When Paul says this light, momentary affliction is preparing for me an eternal weight of glory, that's a similar concept to Jeremiah 29 11. And yet we don't need to take a verse out from Jeremiah that doesn't apply to us and make it say what we want it to say. That's ISO Jesus, not exegesis. Yeah, and I guess maybe the challenge for you is, it's a great verse, I'm not gonna lie. I like it. I'd like to wear that on my shirt. It's just not helpful for you to develop the kind of approach to scripture where you're taking passages and putting it. For you when it really isn't for you. I heard someone say multiple times, different people saying all the scripture is not to you, but it is for you. And there's different audiences in view. And so I could say, okay, what is the application for Jeremiah 29 11? If you were gonna use it for something, what would you use it for? PPJ? I think just God's sovereignty. I think even dispensationalism our understanding of what God's doing on the national. On the geopolitical scene as we think about the future, as we think about a future for Israel, verse like, Jeremiah 29 11 helps us, and it's for us because it helps us understand how we think about God's people today. Absolutely. And I think that's a more appropriate application of it. It's a better, it's more direct because you're not having to go through hoops and say God's people really, were not just Israel, it's also the church. And then the church by extension can also claim this. There's an element of truth to that. I wouldn't deny it, but it's. To, it's to the exiles who are suffering under the their exilic existence and saying, Lord, have you forgotten us? And Jeremiah saying, no, I haven't. I'm gonna bring you back. Yeah. I've got plans for you that will not be exhausted. And that again, to your point, fits so nicely with our dispensational mindset. Yeah. Yeah. I, and in defense of our covenant brothers and sisters, I don't think they look at this verse and claim it for themselves either. A lot of them don't. Yeah. I think most people understand. Who this was meant for in the time there. After this note in verse 12, he's gonna say, you're gonna call upon me at the same time and pray to me and I will hear you. And I only point that out because of how many times God has told Israel recently. I'm not gonna listen. I'm not gonna hear your prayers anymore. So this is gonna be a time of restoration for the nation of Israel, but it's not always gonna be good. There's gonna be the bad figs as well. In fact, he even mentions them. And those bad figs are gonna be a problem. They're gonna do die by the sword, by the famine, by the pestilence. And God is gonna bring all of these things bound. And then chapter 29 ends with another false prophet shamiah. And shamiah rises up and speaks. In opposition to all of this and speaks into opposition to the Lord wants more, and this is another calling out of somebody specific here where God is gonna say, this is not right, this is not good, and this is not in accordance with what Jeremiah is saying is going to take place. Let's pray and then we will be done with this episode. God, we like we, we prayed yesterday, we need wisdom to know so many things and wisdom to be able to discern what the text means. And we need wisdom to make sure that we're not misapplying a passage or claiming something to be true of us, that wasn't intended to be specifically for us. And so we thank you that you've given us your spirit to, to help us understand the text, but also other resources too, to consult commentaries and other books and things to be able to know. What these passages mean and even how to take some of their truths and apply 'em to our lives. And so give us wisdom in our use of those resources and protect us from error as we seek to interpret the word faithfully. And we pray this all in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. Keep reading your Bibles. Tune in again tomorrow for another edition of the Daily Bible Podcast. Bye folks. Bye.

Bernard:

Well, thank you for listening to another fantastical episode of the Daily Bible Podcast, folks! We're honored to have you join us. This is a ministry of Compass Bible Church in north Texas. You can find out more information about our Church at compassntx.org. We would love for you to leave a review, to rate, or to share this podcast on whatever platform you're listening on, and we hope to see you again tomorrow for another episode of the Daily Bible Podcast. Ya'll come back now, ya hear?

PJ:

Yeah. I would agree with everything that you said