Welcome to Close it now, an H Vac sales training podcast with Sam Wakefield.
Speaker AHere we'll build your reputation in residential H Vac sales to be the expert influencer in your market.
Speaker AYou'll get insight into the top minds in the industry as they share their skills and hacks to help you on your journey.
Speaker AThis podcast isn't just about selling more.
Speaker AIt's about understanding your customers needs and building efficiencies behind the scenes so you can sell more but work less while being top of mind when people think H Vac.
Speaker ANow let's get started with your host of the Close it now podcast.
Speaker AThis is Sam Wakefield.
Speaker BAll right, welcome back.
Speaker BThis is the Close It Now H Vac sales podcast and my name is Sam Wakefield.
Speaker BToday we are going to talking about.
Speaker BBe talking about.
Speaker BYes, go ahead.
Speaker BJudge a book by its cover.
Speaker BIt is okay, because our subconscious does that to everybody we meet.
Speaker BWhich also means of course they are getting do that to you.
Speaker BThat starts from the very second you make your introduction phone call to let them know you're on the way.
Speaker BThat starts at the very first impression that they get when they pick up the phone and call your company or what kind of response they get when they put in a text or email inquiry inquiry on your website or on Yelp or through Angie's List or through your PPC or however you, however you get leads.
Speaker BThat starts from the very second that someone raises their hand and says, yes, I need some help.
Speaker BAre you the company that can help me?
Speaker BAnd so your first impression is huge in the homeowner's mind.
Speaker BSo that's what we're talking about today.
Speaker BBecause as much as you know, we've been taught since we were kids, don't judge a book by its cover.
Speaker BThat's exactly what we do anyway.
Speaker BSo in person you have about 46 seconds, not 46, between four and six seconds to make an impression that is going to be favorable, an impression that's going to stick in their mind.
Speaker BAnd there's a lot of elements to that.
Speaker BA lot of it is the way you dress.
Speaker BA lot of it is, you know, little things.
Speaker BYou know, there's an expression I heard a while back.
Speaker BIt's like if there's one tiny thing that would keep any client from not doing business with me, that I can change in my appearance or something like that, I'm going to, I'm going to do it.
Speaker BYou know, you put a bunch hundred people in the, in a room and have everybody who may be turned off by say a long hair in a Ponytail.
Speaker BJust the opinion that they might be a little bit less trouble trustworthy if a handful of people in that room raised their hand.
Speaker BBut then the difference between that and maybe a, you know, a clean cut haircut or something a little more conservative and less people raise their hand.
Speaker BYou know, there's nothing wrong with the long hair in a ponytail.
Speaker BI WORE that for 10 years.
Speaker BI mean, I was a rock star and hair down halfway down my back.
Speaker BBut when I got into sales, I realized that, you know, if it at the end of the day made a difference to me of thousands of dollars at the end of the year, difference in my income, you know what?
Speaker BI'm okay with cutting my hair because, you know, and it's, and again, it's not that there's anything wrong with it.
Speaker BHowever, if subconsciously someone has had a bad experience or something is that you can do, can not necessarily change their impression, but don't detract from their impression of you, then absolutely do it.
Speaker BThere is nothing wrong with dressing the part for the role you play in this career.
Speaker BAnd so, and along with that, that doesn't mean wear a, you know, a blazer and a three piece suit to a sales appointment when you're a H vac contractor.
Speaker BI mean, come on, I've seen that for, you know, for a long time.
Speaker BThere's the whole movement in the 90s and the early 2000s and I totally tried this.
Speaker BI went out and I bought a couple sport coats.
Speaker BI tried the tie, I tried the sport coat and the tie with slacks and then the nice shoes.
Speaker BAnd then I would try just the sport coat without the tie.
Speaker BAnd then I tried just the tie without the sport coat.
Speaker BAnd I tried neither one.
Speaker BNo tie or sport coat, but just with a nice shirt and slacks and nice shoes and you know, where my sails have always landed the best because that, that dress is completely unexpected by people.
Speaker BSo yeah, they're going to remember you.
Speaker BHowever, can you imagine, do you know what the perception in their mind is?
Speaker BWhen I started up with all my people, when you dress like that to go for an air conditioning sales call, the impression in their mind is, well, gosh, these guys are going to be way more expensive.
Speaker BBecause that's the way people judge the book by its cover.
Speaker BWere we necessarily more expensive than the nearest competition?
Speaker BNo, we weren't.
Speaker BWe were almost the same.
Speaker BPretty close as far as price goes.
Speaker BWhich also tells me we should have raised our prices.
Speaker BBut at the end of the day, their perception of us was that we were so much more expensive.
Speaker BThey mentally Shut me down and shut down the whole process before it even started.
Speaker BBecause they just in their mind subconsciously knew that they weren't going to be able to afford us.
Speaker BNow where now this is with our company and of course we're in Austin, Texas so that you know that we're a little bit on the relaxed side.
Speaker BBut I've worked and I've trained all over the country.
Speaker BI've worked in cities, I've trained in cities, I've trained in small towns in rural America.
Speaker BAnd the consistently the outfit that gets the best response is something along the lines of like jeans and a polo shirt.
Speaker BNever tennis shoes, but you know, some kind of regular shoes, deck shoes or you know, some kind of normal shoes.
Speaker BEven boots.
Speaker BDepends on the part of the country.
Speaker BCowboy boots.
Speaker BI've worn my Dr. Martens before.
Speaker BThat were, works out just fine.
Speaker BBut something a little more relaxed.
Speaker BSome guys like to wear dickies or some sort of like, you know, khakis and slacks and stuff.
Speaker BAnd that's fine.
Speaker BEven a button up shirt maybe with the company logo.
Speaker BBut that's about the middle of the road where you want to be more dressed up than that.
Speaker BThe perception is you're way too expensive for me.
Speaker BDress down from there.
Speaker BYou know, I've got a couple of, in the middle of the summer, a couple of our people, they'll actually have some nice, nice shorts that they wear and they get a pretty good reception from the homeowners.
Speaker BIt just depends on your market.
Speaker BBut first impressions are so important.
Speaker BAnother thing to think about this is has to do and I know this from experience, the context here is my mom is very, very, very sensitive to smells and odors and chemicals.
Speaker BAnd she has like horrible allergic reactions to colognes, to hair products, to aftershaves, to anything like that.
Speaker BAnd so years ago I decided that, well, and I saw this in experience because my parents had some sort of satellite TV coming to be installed one time.
Speaker BAnd the guy that showed up at the door, the installer, had a pretty good amount of cologne on.
Speaker BShe told him as soon as he got in the door she said, leave, you can't be in my house.
Speaker BSo it completely turned him away and they had to send someone else who promised not to wear any type of cologne or any or they were literally going to change companies to go with somebody else who would comply with that request.
Speaker BWas it because they were being mean or being, you know, being rude or, you know, we all have those customers who are just jerks or being rude?
Speaker BNo, it had to do with the fact that if he had come into the house and spent any amount of time she that night, she would have ended up in the emergency room with lung issues because that's how sensitive she is to smells and odors and chemicals.
Speaker BSo I decided years ago to one, always train my people, but to never.
Speaker BIf I show up to that one in ten thousandth house where somebody's that sensitive, I don't want to be the guy that has that gets turned away because, oh, you know what?
Speaker BI decided to wear cologne today.
Speaker BYou know what?
Speaker BThat's ridiculous.
Speaker BI'll just not wear it for the fact that I can be the most things to the most people.
Speaker BAnything that you can think of that would be a detractor for first impressions is huge humongous in our industry.
Speaker BAnother tip along these lines, since this is a first impression podcast today, is the way you greet the door, the way you get to the door.
Speaker BYou know, obviously, when you can park on the street, never in the driveway, always, unless, you know, it's a long, winding driveway up to the house or something.
Speaker BThere's a lot of the bigger houses, nicer houses have a big, you know, big driveway up to the house.
Speaker BThat's a good way.
Speaker BYou're not going to park, park on the street there.
Speaker BBut for most normal neighborhoods, you're parking, you know, park on the street, never park in the driveway, and always park the right direction on the road.
Speaker BNever park illegally.
Speaker BYou know, it's just simple stuff.
Speaker BBut here's the thing.
Speaker BIf you park the wrong way on a street, in their mind, they might mention it or not.
Speaker BThey might even notice, not notice.
Speaker BBut some people will, they will 100% think, well, if they're going to break the law there, what other things are they shortcutting?
Speaker BWhat else are they skipping when comes to my project, if they're willing to break the law, what else are they, what else are they not doing?
Speaker BSo everything is perception.
Speaker BYou know, what we do, a lot of what we do is, you know, the show part.
Speaker BSo much of it is the show because if you don't actually tell the homeowner you're going to do something, it might as well not have happened.
Speaker BAnd so that's another episode that we're going to talk about.
Speaker BBut for first impressions, when you get up to the door, knock, don't ring the bell.
Speaker BYou know, salespeople ring the bell, neighbors knock.
Speaker BIt's one of those old school slogans, but it's 100% the truth.
Speaker BSo knock on the door, don't ring the bell.
Speaker BAnd then Back up.
Speaker BA funny story.
Speaker BYears ago I had one.
Speaker BI took one of my foreman with me to look at this house to evaluate this project.
Speaker BNeeded to help get him there ahead of time to get some measurements for some of the insulation we were going to do and some of the other things and the, the duct work and all that.
Speaker BAnd so before I could do anything, he goes up to the door, rings the bell and leans against the door frame right by the door with his arm leaning against the door, waiting for the homeowner to open the door.
Speaker BShe opens the door and just about falls over backwards because he's leaning right in her face as he's leaned up against the door.
Speaker BI couldn't reach him fast enough to yank him back away from the door before she opened it and blew my mind.
Speaker BThat, that, that wasn't something that is common sense that people know, but that's why I'm bringing it up right now, because it's very, very important.
Speaker BIt's crucial.
Speaker BKnock on the door and take one, two, three steps back.
Speaker BIf it's a porch, step down off of the first step on the porch, step onto the first step and lower yourself to.
Speaker BWhen they open the door so you can back up, they can clearly see you from the door.
Speaker BThey can clearly see your vehicle.
Speaker BIt's a safety issue.
Speaker BBig smile, door, big smile.
Speaker BHi, my name is.
Speaker BVery first thing you say, hi, my name is.
Speaker BDon't even let them say hi.
Speaker BSay, hi, my name is, and whatever your name is.
Speaker BSo I'm like, hi, my name is Sam Wakefield with Precision Heating and Air.
Speaker BOr, you know, with the company that you're with.
Speaker BThat's the company that I'm with in Austin, but so greet them with your name in the company you're with before they have a chance to say anything so they know who you are, because it gives them one, you are leading the conversation there.
Speaker BAnd two, it's a safety thing for them and it puts their mind at ease.
Speaker BEven if you called ahead and they know you're coming, still do that.
Speaker BIt's super, super important.
Speaker BSo taking the step back and do that.
Speaker BAnd I know this is probably very simple things for a lot of you, but you would be amazed that there's a lot of people in the, you know, in the world that don't know these common courtesy skills, especially if you're new to in home sales.
Speaker BThese are things that will completely set you ap from other companies when it comes to how you are perceived in the house, how you're perceived with the homeowner and so these just handful of things will completely set you apart when it comes to, you know, what your clothes are.
Speaker BMen.
Speaker BTuck your shirt in, wear a belt.
Speaker BSimple stuff.
Speaker BShave, don't look like you haven't taken a bath in a week.
Speaker BTake a shower.
Speaker BThe easy stuff.
Speaker BDo it.
Speaker BIt's worth it.
Speaker BPeople.
Speaker BNobody wants to hang out with somebody who smells like they haven't bathed in a week and they're working in attics.
Speaker BI mean, come on, these are common sense things that you could be a service tech, it doesn't matter who you are.
Speaker BAll of this applies to every single one of you.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BAnd women, you know, you are kind of a. I love, I love, love, love, huge shout out to our women who are doing sales in this industry because you, my friends, have to make everyone else's numbers look ridiculous because of the amount of rapport that you could instantly get in a house.
Speaker BIt's amazing.
Speaker BAnd I, I just am so thankful for you.
Speaker BAnd yeah, it's time that you step up into your greatness because I know you've got greatness inside of you.
Speaker BLet's see some amazing women.
Speaker BH vac salespeople, comfort consultants, project managers, put up some mind blowing numbers.
Speaker BIt's time, it's time for women to really step into this industry.
Speaker BBut that's just a soapbox of mine.
Speaker BBut first impressions are so wildly important.
Speaker BYou've got to.
Speaker BIt starts with the phone call and then goes right into that first few seconds, you know, extend.
Speaker BHi, my name is, I'm with this company.
Speaker BExtend your hand.
Speaker BGood firm handshake.
Speaker BAll of that is crucial.
Speaker BSo make sure that you know, those first eight seconds are powerful, make it impactful.
Speaker BPeople want to know that you're there for business, that you're sharp as a tack and that you know what the heck you're doing.
Speaker BYou accomplish that and the sale is halfway made.
Speaker BAnd I promise you, it changes everything.
Speaker BI've had so many people over the years say, you know, literally I've heard these words come out of people's mouths say, you know, I don't normally trust salespeople who come to the house, but for some reason, and I don't even know why I trust you, so I totally believe what you're saying.
Speaker BAnd man, you know, I really feel like you're being transparent and honest with me where a lot of other people didn't.
Speaker BAnd you know, I've heard these things over and over again.
Speaker BSo clearly these are techniques.
Speaker BAnd it's not that you're trying to manipulate anybody, but you're just being upfront and transparent and truthful and honest with people and being as neutral as you possibly can.
Speaker BYour job as you know, have a flag flying over your head when you're in a home of, you gotta be freaking Switzerland.
Speaker BSwitzerland.
Speaker BYou've got to be as absolutely neutral as possible when it comes to anything.
Speaker BAnything that has to do politically, anything that has to do with money, with religion, with literally anything that could potentially be controversial.
Speaker BYou know, there's so much going on in the world when it comes to all the different things, you know, the left, the right, the, you know, sexual equality, racial equality, gender neutrality, all of these things.
Speaker BYou can go down the list of all the political hot buttons, and at the end of the day, you have to be neutral.
Speaker BI guarantee you, if you followed me around an entire day and into 10 different houses, you wouldn't have a clue how I felt politically, how I felt religiously, how I felt about any of those issues in a house.
Speaker BAnd if you followed along and asked any of my clients, every single one of them would think that I believe the way they did.
Speaker BWhy?
Speaker BBecause I did?
Speaker BNo, has nothing to do with that.
Speaker BBecause I asked questions about what the.
Speaker BWhen someone.
Speaker BIf you go into a house and someone has over the top, maybe yard signs, over the top, things on the wall, anything that really points to something very specific.
Speaker BYou don't have to be for or against it, but just ask them about it.
Speaker BGet them talking about what they're obviously passionate about.
Speaker BAsk them about it.
Speaker BOh, wow, I saw you've got so many of these signs in the yard.
Speaker BWhat has inspired you to be so passionate about this?
Speaker BI love to talk to people about their passions and what they're really concerned about.
Speaker BIs there something specific that has gotten you so involved?
Speaker BAsk those kind of questions and just let them talk to you for a while.
Speaker BThey will happily tell you what their passions are, what their burning desire is, what their hot buttons are, and that will tell you so much about how you communicate back to them.
Speaker BWhen it comes to the system that you're working on.
Speaker BWhen it comes to.
Speaker BIf they're auditory, if they're visual, learn to speak their language.
Speaker BAnd you do that by letting them talk to you.
Speaker BGod gave us two ears and one mouth to listen twice as much as we talk.
Speaker BSo when we start listening to just ask a few very specific key questions and listen to what their passions are and the way they communicate, then we'll be able to communicate back to them in the way that they understand, using the level of words they understand, using the Types of the types of communication.
Speaker BA good example is, you know, you go into at someone's house and maybe the person is clearly an artist.
Speaker BThey've got their paintings up, they've got art supplies.
Speaker BI'm going to use terms like, does this look good to you?
Speaker BWhereas somebody who go in somebody's house, that may be a musician, I'm going to use terms like, hey, how does that sound?
Speaker BBecause, you know, that's the way that they communicate.
Speaker BThat's the life they live.
Speaker BSo learning to communicate with that type of power of those words will really change the way they respond to you as well.
Speaker BSo first impressions into learning to listen and communicate with neutrality.
Speaker BSo all of this has to do with the home experience, the experience you're giving the customer, the experience you're giving their homeowner in their own home of dealing with someone who understands them.
Speaker BIt makes them feel felt, feel understood.
Speaker BBecause at the end of the day, don't we all just want to be heard?
Speaker BAnd that's what you know, that's why I win jobs over the competitors at thousands of dollars more expensive, because I'll hear all the time, they say, you know what?
Speaker BWe had you and two other companies, three other companies, five other companies, eight other companies.
Speaker BI've heard all those numbers come out.
Speaker BYou're the only one that actually we thought, listened to the problems we have and came up with the solutions that was, that were going to solve those problems.
Speaker BAnd it had to do with letting them tell me and listening and listening and listening to point that I understood what, listened between the lines and understood what they're trying to communicate because they don't always know the right words to use and they don't always know how to describe the problems they're having.
Speaker BAll they know are the words that are in their vocabulary.
Speaker BAnd so by listening and then restating back using maybe restated a little bit differently, restate a little bit differently, describe it a little bit more thoroughly the way we know to describe things.
Speaker BAnd they, you can tell the instant that light bulb goes off because their face lights up.
Speaker BThey're like, yes, that's it.
Speaker BThat's exactly what I was trying to describe.
Speaker BAnd their face lights up and like that.
Speaker BThat's.
Speaker BThat's what.
Speaker BYes, that's exactly what happens in the middle of the night, or that's what happens in the summer, that's what happens in the winter.
Speaker BAnd you know, at that moment you've heard them, understood them, when you've communicated it back to them a way that they understand and it reson with them that yes, you're the person that actually heard and understood what I was trying to describe to you.
Speaker BI just didn't know how to describe it.
Speaker BAnd when you can do that, that's the moment that your sales start to really take on a new adventure and are going to start to climb.
Speaker BSo that's a powerful podcast today.
Speaker BI hope you got some value from this.
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Speaker BIf you are, you know, really compartmentalized like my company.
Speaker BWe've got different departments, We've got sales department, service department, we've got our install, you know, department.
Speaker BBut I know a lot of companies where you know, you sell you service and install all at the same time.
Speaker BMaybe have a handful of people.
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Speaker BOne of the main things I know in my numbers over the years has always been if I didn't have anyone to hold me accountable, there's a good chance I may or may not really be focused on the results.
Speaker BSo when what you where you focus goes, your energy flows.
Speaker BSo if you're focused on results, you're focused on seeing success.
Speaker BYou've got to be accountable to that.
Speaker BSo it's a big part of what my group coaching program is going to be involved with.
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Speaker BWho wants to work less and sell more.
Speaker BI know that has been, I hear that a lot.
Speaker BIt's like I want to sell, I want to, I want to earn more.
Speaker BBut at the same time, I don't want to be completely disappear from my family throughout the summer.
Speaker BI don't want to be the guy that works, you know, six, seven days a week, 12, 14 hours a day and never sees anybody throughout the year.
Speaker BAnd you know what?
Speaker BThere is a way to do that.
Speaker BThere's a way to earn more, work less, and not have to kill yourself in this industry.
Speaker BSo you can actually have the best of both worlds.
Speaker BYou can have family life and you can have a mind blowing income.
Speaker BSo that is what we're gonna, that's what we're talking about.
Speaker BThat's the focus of this group.
Speaker BMy training is not like the others.
Speaker BJust because you work harder does not always mean that you work better or work or that your work is better or more productive.
Speaker BYou don't have to work harder just to earn more.
Speaker BAnd so that's totally what we're talking about.
Speaker BSo thanks for listening.
Speaker BI will talk to you guys again soon.
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