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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Most people never find the root cause of their struggles. They work on the surface level, healing like mindset shifts or energy clearing, but the deepest patterns stay hidden quietly running their lives. And that's where our next guest comes in

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: hi and welcome to the you. World order, showcase podcast where we feature life, health, transformational coaches, and spiritual entrepreneurs being the change they seek in the world. I'm your host, Jill Hart, the coach's alchemist on a mission to help coaches and entrepreneurs amplify their voice, monetize their mission

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and get visible leveraging podcasts and the huge audience. We have over on the Gnostic TV network. Today we are chatting with Kamina Fullwood. Kamina is a transformational leader, dedicated to empowering individuals, to reclaim their energy, align with their essence, and step into their highest potential welcome to the show, Camina. It's great to have you here.

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Kemina: Thank you. It's great to be here.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Okay, you ready for the big question.

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Kemina: All right. Let's go.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Okay, what's the most significant thing in your opinion, as individuals, we can do to make an impact on how the world is going.

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Kemina: Well, I would have to say, you know your energy is either working for you or against you, and so make sure it's working for you.

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Kemina: because energy is is the current that we should ride, and if we're not riding it, we're fighting against it. We're fighting against the current. We've all been in the ocean and tried to fight against the current. It doesn't work. It just slaps you around, and that's the same with your energy. If you're not rolling with it. If you're not aligned with your energy, it's going to be slapping you around and sending you in places that you don't want to go.

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Kemina: And so that's how can help what I help with.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That's awesome. I I kind of, because probably you have the picture of the ocean in the background, and I spent many years as a lifeguard on the ocean. So I've watched the currents a lot.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and I know that when you get caught in an undertow, instead of trying to fight the current. If you just let it suck you out and swim across.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and then you'll get out of that energy

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: which is really all a riptide is is, it's energy moving in a direction. But instead of trying to fight against it, if you just will go with it, and but diagonally, like angling out of that. You can get back to where you want to be.

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Kemina: Smart about it. You don't. You? Don't let it control you, and you don't resist it. You you get smart about it and go. This is how I need to work with it. And it's like, Okay, and that's exactly the same as energy. If you align yourself with it, you're no longer resisting, you know, and that's all those subconscious beliefs that we've got running, which is, you know, I'm not good enough, or you know, the self doubt and confusion, because every issue that we have comes down to 2 things which is self doubt and confusion.

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Kemina: Right? That's it. So they're the things that are that are creating all of this resistance and and and making this tide, you know.

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Kemina: Forcing you to battle the tide rather than roll with it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Do you think that sometimes people look at their thoughts that they're having, which are? It's really subconscious programming that we.

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Kemina: Sometimes.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Things that we put in our mind that are presented to our minds as, Oh, let's.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: it doesn't really come out like Oh, let's think about this, but it's those conversations we have with people that we'll never actually have in real life that are really destructive conversations. They're not productive in any way

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: or

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: thoughts about things that happened that you can't possibly do anything about at this point. All you're doing is ruminating on it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And the the power that we have to just let those thoughts go.

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Kemina: Well, I think it. There's a technique and an art form to it. It's not as simple as letting it go, because if it was simple as that would be doing it. So what we do instead is we either push it away or we play it over and over, and

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Kemina: so if we can understand why we're doing these things and the process, which is actually not very difficult in order to detach from it, it's like, well, we're trying to understand it. You know, our mind is like a risk taker it it goes okay. It plays different scenarios out to us.

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Kemina: to to alert us to potential danger. It's like, Hey, this could potentially happen. Or if you know. So if we're going to see somebody, and we know there's going to be some conflict. We might have played out 10 different or more scenarios of how that could could go down

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Kemina: to protect ourselves. Okay, if this happens, this is how I handle it. If this happens, this is how I handle it. Right? So if we recognize that, that's what our mind is doing, it's trying to keep us safe. We no longer resist it, and we can say, Thank you. Mind for keeping me safe. I give you permission to rest now.

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Kemina: And it's like, Oh, okay, you're telling. It doesn't need to keep doing that. I've got this, you know, you're giving. You're taking back the power.

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Kemina: Or say, for example, if a scenario happened where we did a really dumb thing, or somebody hurt us or harmed us in some way, we play that over and over. Well, we haven't gotten the lesson from it. What do we need to know and learn from it? I don't need to to understand why the other person did what they did, because people only do dumb things out of 2 reasons, self doubt and confusion. That's it.

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Kemina: So if we can just take things back down to simplicity and and really simplify things and see them as they really are. And then we can get radically honest with ourselves. And you know.

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Kemina: then we can see the truth and and not be plagued by all this. Playing things over and over, and it makes life so much easier.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yes, really.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So. Tell me about energetic recalibration. What does what does that mean? And and how do you use it to help people.

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Kemina: Well, it's

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Kemina: tapping into the energy, tapping into the flow of energy and making sure it's aligned. So I recalibrate the entire energy field. So it's aligned. So I look at 3

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Kemina: different areas or 4 different areas, which is the stories that we play. So they're from past life or universal stories that we are playing out, and and that that we've been playing out for a lifetime after lifetime, and that control our thoughts, control our subconscious and and the and the choices that we make.

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Kemina: Then we've also got the ancestral stuff that's being, you know. Like, if you look at the history of the world. It's pretty gruesome.

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Kemina: And so that's being passed down and passed down and passed down to where we are today. And it's still controlling.

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Kemina: Maybe the world isn't so, you know, violent in a physical sense, as it used to be. It doesn't mean that that stuff still isn't playing out. I mean, you know, it's a pretty chaotic world

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Kemina: and and then you've also got interference sitting in the field, you know, which is all those psychic attacks of people, all kinds of you know those it just distortions in the field. And

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Kemina: So if so, I I look at every single one of those and remove all of the

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Kemina: things that are going on that is, creating issues for that person. So it totally recalibrates the energetic field and brings you back into more alignment with who you really are, and and more aligned with your whole self.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So you have a you have a name for this.

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Kemina: Well, I use the soul flow method.

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Kemina: And if you go to my website, bodyflowenergetics.org, there's the soul flow method which I teach to people. And I

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Kemina: you can do it through group a group process or a 1 on one process. I'll teach you through it, and I'll take you through a full recalibration. It's a 6 month process, and you can learn everything I do. And you know I have. I get incredible results. I mean, you know, with one session, with

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Kemina: people. I'm getting more and more that like, I had this New Zealand couple and you know, it was a 2 or 3 months ago, and they were had been together for 30 years, and

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Kemina: almost every single day of that 30 years they had were fighting.

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Kemina: and these aren't just your regular everyday kind of fights. These are full on battles, and I don't know how they stayed together for 30 years, but it was pretty impressive, I thought

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Kemina: and I gave them both one session each, and

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Kemina: after that they just didn't have the desire to fight. They didn't do anything. They just woke up. And they were just like, I just don't want to fight anymore. And they haven't had a fight since.

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Kemina: So that's the kind of results I get with people. And it's like, you know.

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Kemina: pretty amazing stuff. And that's what I teach people to do. And I take them through a recalibration, so they can understand how energy works on every aspect. And it's actually kind of simple and fun.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That sounds really cool, does it?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Does it work with I? And your example was for somebody that was

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: having problems with a relationship? But does it also work in the health realm in terms of like

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: addictions that people have.

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Kemina: Yeah, I've had a number of people. Recently someone had a gambling addiction, a marijuana addiction, and I gave them both one session each, and they were gone. I actually originally started out specializing in chronic health issues. So I kind of delved into the deep end from the get go. And so by doing that I really understood.

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Kemina: You know how it all works? Because because you've got to like, sink or swim in those kind of situations. And so it's like

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Kemina: I've worked with pretty much every illness or disease there is. I'm sure there are some I haven't, but I'm pretty close to working with all of them. I think.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Were you in the medical profession, or was this just like.

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Kemina: No, I studied kinesiology. And so that's very base. That's very. You have to learn physiology, and and how the body works, and

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Kemina: and and all of that as as part of that that course.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Interesting, so.

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Kemina: So you know, over over the years, it's like like a doctor. You just enhance your skills. And the more you work with different kind of things going on. The more you learn.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So you really do actually address physical things as well as emotional and spiritual attacks that people are undergoing or help. Not that you do it, but you teach them how to do it for themselves, which is

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: so much more empowering.

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Kemina: Through the process, so they heal themselves, and then in that process they can also learn how to do it, and they could be a practitioner if they so choose to, because I'm giving them all the skills to do that. But really, I just want to help people to help themselves. Because if you can come to me and I can help you absolutely. But it's so much more empowering if you can do it yourself.

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Kemina: and then you can help your family and friends, which is a pretty cool thing to be able to do.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, yeah, and so is it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: is it like the laying on of hands more? Or is it more actual

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: things that you do when you like practices?

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Kemina: Well, it's

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Kemina: so. I take people through. Through. If so, 1st of all, I help people understand things on a on a

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Kemina: theory level, and then I get them to do practices. So they experientially understand it. They get it. They fully get it. So we play around with energy a lot. There's a lot of just playing with energy. And it's all really quick, easy stuff, because I'm all about bite. Size changes. If it takes longer than 5 or 10 min. I'm just not going to do it, and I know most people are the same right.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Nobody is.

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Kemina: I have the intention to, but I probably won't get there. And so we just have this play around. So then you're feeling, and you're really getting how it works, and then I, you know, help people to unlock their intuition so they can see, hear, feel. No, you know all of those things. And and really there are certain ways to really tap into your intuition really powerfully, that

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Kemina: many people are teaching which I just find really strange.

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Kemina: And so. And then I take people under to understand things in you know, understanding, abundance and relationships and communication, and and the elements like

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Kemina: and and balancing the masculine and feminine, and so by taking them through the process and getting them to do it. So then, if you felt it and understood it within yourself, then you can do it on other people if if that's what you want. So these are really advanced level healing techniques that are really simple. And and I work with people all over the world. So I don't have to have the person in front of me.

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Kemina: And it's it's it's actually, surprisingly simple. You know, I've really fine tuned it over the you know, over a decade that I've been doing this

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Kemina: and and it's

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Kemina: honestly I I show people how to do things. And they're like, really, that's I like that. They get it because they can experience what I'm saying. They're like, I know you do.

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Kemina: So.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Do you? Do you incorporate any kidon into what you're doing?

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Kemina: Any what? Sorry.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Kidong into what you, what you're doing.

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Kemina: She go?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Qigong. Yeah.

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Kemina: Oh, sorry. I thought you were saying something else. Well, I think you know Qigong is really powerful and amazing. I do. It is, there are as part of soul flow. There are some Qigong methods that I teach. It's you know. I just really love the

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Kemina: the. If you feel into your hand, and and you can just feel the fatness of of the of your fingers, you know, just like. And and and that's you, Chi, just those kind of techniques are pretty cool. And Qigong, just really, they get energy.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I've I've experienced a little bit of it, and which is why I pronounce it wrong, because I've only seen it on the Internet and written. I haven't really heard it talked about so

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: with Chedong.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's almost unbelievable that you can feel energy.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: but you can. And just the the simple process of gathering it together and then pulling it to you.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: There's there's a physical experience that you

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: experience when you do stuff like that. I mean, it's not like this is airy fairy stuff. This is.

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Kemina: So practical. Wow, it's surprising.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, that's what the point I'm trying to make is that for my listeners that this is not like some

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: fanciful thing that we're talking about here. This is like real. You feel the.

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Kemina: Lots of different ways to do it. If you just like, you know.

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Kemina: feel into your hands, and you can just feel the energy as you move your hands in and out, you can feel the energy moving in and out like that's just a really quick, simple way. Or you know, if you place your hand on your head, you can feel the energy move to your head. If you place your hand on your heart, feel the energy move to your heart. So if you're overthinking, just put your hand on your heart to get your energy out of your head.

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Kemina: So there's really simple ways of understanding energy and experiencing it, and go. Because if you do that like, you can really feel that. And then when you are doing that overthinking thing, and you do put your hand on your heart, or anywhere on your body, just to get your energy out of your head. You stop thinking. And it's like wow, this stuff really works.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I. And again super simple processes. I have a story with my dad. He he practices Tai Chi a lot

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and he he had problems with his neck like he couldn't turn his head, and he had this guy who is a Tai Chi instructor or practitioner, come to the we call it the compound, but it's the he lives in this community, in Arizona. And so the guy comes, and my dad's thinking that's going to be this wise and old

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Chinese guy, and this young Hispanic man shows up.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and he never touches my dad.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: but he moves the energy around on his body, and my dad said his neck has never felt so good. I mean he can turn it

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: never touched him ever.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: But just. That's the power of energy work.

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Kemina: Pretty cool,

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Kemina: That's a really cool.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Very proud of that actually cause he's old.

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Kemina: Oh, that is cute! Isn't it really fun? Like I love working with people who have never had

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Kemina: energetic health session done before, and because they get blown away. They're like, I really felt that. And you know, they like, especially structural stuff, is is really fun to work with, because people structurally feel the pain. And by the end of the session they don't feel it. And they're like, How is that possible? What did you do?

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Kemina: It's really cool, because this is all real, and they and then experience it. And they're like, Wow, how have I never discovered this before? How did I? Why did I think this wasn't real when what I just experienced I can't. I can't deny that it's real.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah. And I think this is the direction that medicine is headed in overall, because it's way more powerful than

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: the way that it's practiced normally around around here, anyway. Not that there isn't a place for allopathic medicine, because I do truly believe you know, if you get in a car accident. You want somebody that's going to just put all the pieces back together the way they're supposed to go.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: But for a lot of the things that we experience.

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Kemina: Certainly serves a purpose, and there are some beautiful people in the medical industry who just have such a beautiful heart so absolutely. I'm in support of it. But for you know the long term stuff. That's

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Kemina: that's where we can make the biggest difference. And and that minimizes, you know, a lot of the people going to hospital.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, for people that really need to go to the hospital for something versus just having those.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I'm not even going to say minor, because chronic pain is, it's debilitating for a lot of people

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: to be able to experience a way to get around it

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: just by moving the energy in your body because it's stuck, or sometimes emotional things that show up in your body is just energy stuck someplace.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And you know your experience with fighting. You know a lot of times that's just energy that's stuck somewhere, and you just get in this pattern, and you don't know how to unstick it and have a different pattern.

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Kemina: It's we're sending out our energy. 24, 7, you know. That's our frequency that we're sending out. And people are picking up what we're sending out it. Our words might say something different, but they're picking up on our energy, and they're responding to that so that might be creating conflict like I had a client come to me saying, Oh, I need to get rid of my anger. And I went okay.

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Kemina: And she said, Oh, and then, you know a little bit, you know, a few minutes down the track. She was talking about things. She goes. Oh, you know I have had a few people say to me lately? You know, stop speaking with so much anger, and she said, I'm not. I'm saying things nicely, and I said, but you came to me to help you, you know. Work on your anger while you might not be saying it energetically. You're putting that out there. And she was like, oh, right? Yeah.

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Kemina: You know, I want to get rid of my anger, but people are seeing me as angry, and I don't think I'm angry. It was like.

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Kemina: you know, it's the confusion of of that is

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Kemina: is baffling for people they know they're angry, but they don't realize that the energy that they're putting out is exactly how they're feeling. It's not what you're saying, and that that has a massive impact on how people respond. And so if we don't sort those things out. We're going to sit here confused, and wonder why the world's attacking us.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: you you reminded me of something my husband said to me today. He was listening in on a conversation that I was having with a group of people. And I was impatient.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And I just wanted them to like, understand what I had to tell them, because I really needed to get off the phone. And he said, I can always tell when you're talking to people that don't get what you're saying, because you have a different tonality, and you talk to them differently. It's more like I'm talking to children, and I just expect you to do what I'm telling you to do, because I don't have time to explain why this is going to work.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: but then I had to have a little conversation with myself about. You know this is.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: that's not my place, and if if I have to go, then they're going to figure it out on their own, and if they don't, then they can wait till I come back. It's not up to me to solve all the problems in the world.

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Kemina: No, it's not. We all give it a good shot, though, don't we?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, yeah, tell me, tell me your problems. I can solve it for you.

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Kemina: I don't have time, but I'll give. I'll give it a shot in 20 seconds.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, yeah, if you'll just do it in my way.

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Kemina: Yeah. Doesn't work that way, does it?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, it doesn't.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: But just working with energy

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: again. You know, it's it's being in the flow of energy and recognizing when the current's not going in the direction that you wish it to be going in. You don't have to push directly against it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: There are. There are things that you can do to allow it to like

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: that, allow you to swim diagonally and get get out of that energy.

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Kemina: Absolutely well, it's change. Can't be forced, you know. If anyone ever has ever tried to force you to do something, you you might end up doing it. But it's going to take you longer because you just go. I'm not doing it now. You're trying to force me to. I'm just not going to do it right. And and that's

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Kemina: ingrain in all of us. We most people have that resistance, and they are, unless they're a super people pleaser. So you can't force change. It's got to be written, and it's, you know. Allow yourself to go with that current, and then you become more aligned because it's like, if you're sick, your brain isn't talking to your body properly.

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Kemina: Right. So how do I get my brain to talk to my body?

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Kemina: Well, if the energy, if there's blocks of energy

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Kemina: blocked energy in your brain. Well, I need to clear those blocks. So then it becomes more aligned.

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Kemina: So so it's like, okay, well, what? What do I do need to do to clear those blocks? It's like, so then I can go, okay, well, what beliefs or programs, what subconscious thinking have I got running? That's affecting my choices and decisions. So it's like, so we can just clear out those blocks.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's actually kind of simple.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: If you know what you're doing.

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Kemina: With most things in life, and and anyone can do it. But very few people know how to do it properly.

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Kemina: And it's like it's it's like, we've all had those those stories where we play out the same thing over and over. We've had. We had a stress and trauma happen here, and then we've had a similar one happen. So we ended up creating this big mountain right?

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Kemina: And then people go at it with a little pickaxe. I don't want to do this anymore, and they're going out with a pickaxe on a mountain, and they're wondering why they're not getting very far. So people are trying, but there are ways to do it properly, and that's what I help with. And because I'm you know, I've been there with a little pickaxe myself, and I'm like going around in circles going on. Why not going anywhere? It's really frustrating.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Bring in the bulldozer.

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Kemina: Yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So speaking of.

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Kemina: The card at the bottom. It's like a house of cards. If you just pull that bottom one, the whole thing collapses. It's like, oh, yeah, that makes sense.

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Kemina: Oh, how do we do that?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So you have virtual workshops that you provide for people.

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Kemina: Well, what I do is I have a a program flow, self mastery program. And it's you can do the group program or the one on one program. So it includes group workshops.

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Kemina: and and tool the tools and practices

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Kemina: to to experientially understand it all and learn it all as well as some videos in how to to get the theory behind things. And they're pretty short, too. But just really, you know just the simplistic necessary stuff.

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Kemina: and then you can do the one on one pathway. You get everything in the group path, but you get one on one sessions with me every 2 weeks. So you can choose your own adventure.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I like that. I like that a lot. And you offer a collection of free transformational resources from energy recalibration tools to guided meditations and mindset shifts. These are designed to create real results. No Fluff, no overwhelm, just bite size, but powerful practices to help you reset, realign. And remember who you really are.

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Kemina: That's exactly right. And they're all on my website.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And you want to tell people where to find them on your website.

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Kemina: So if you go to bodyflowenergetics.org you can find them there, and then the free gifts is, if you do, bodyflowenergetics.org slash free hyphen gifts. You can find them there, or it's it's under the resources. Menu. Item.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Awesome.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So thank you so much for joining us today, Camina. It's been great chatting with you about this.

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Kemina: It's been great chatting with you.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: To learn more about Camina and take advantage of our free transformational resources. Please visit bodyflowenergetics.org, and we'll be sure to put that link in the notes. Thank you for tuning in with us today. If you have a podcast or you're interested in starting one to get your message in front of our huge and active audience, be sure to reach out to us at jill@gnostictv.com. We love to help spiritual entrepreneurs and coaches, amplify their voice and monetize their mission and offer a variety of ways to do this on the Gnostic TV network platform.

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