Today's episode is about dealing with difficult family members.
Speaker:I wanted to record this episode before many of you are about
Speaker:to spend time with your family.
Speaker:And even if you aren't, there's most likely going to come a point
Speaker:in the future where you will spend time with your family.
Speaker:Family is one of these topics that can be very, very tough in our spiritual
Speaker:journey as it can quickly bring us back into a state of unconsciousness, feeling
Speaker:disconnected from ourselves, falling into old patterns of pleasing overexplaining
Speaker:ourselves, revoking old anger and resentment within us, whatever it is.
Speaker:In today's episode, I will reveal the wisest and from my perspective, most
Speaker:powerful approach to dealing with your family so you can protect your
Speaker:energy and do not fall back into old patterns when you spend time with your
Speaker:family or day getting contact with you.
Speaker:And it's not just about learning to protect your energy and
Speaker:not falling into all patterns.
Speaker:This also is in alignment with having the.
Speaker:Best relationship that you can have with your family.
Speaker:Welcome to the Masculine and Feminine Dynamics Podcast.
Speaker:My name is Lorin Krenn and I a relationship coach.
Speaker:I help you to embody your awakened masculine and feminine
Speaker:in relationships and life.
Speaker:Let's dive in.
Speaker:First of all, we need to understand that in our family we played a specific
Speaker:role and we might still be playing this role when we fall into it energetically.
Speaker:This is why it is called family dynamics, and there are is even a whole field, very
Speaker:interesting called Family Constellation.
Speaker:So we are, whether we want it or not, we played our role to perfection of
Speaker:whatever our role was in that dynamic.
Speaker:And for many of us, that role was an unconscious role, a role.
Speaker:We don't, we did not want to play trying to appease everyone, whatever role it is.
Speaker:It could be trying to appease everyone, over explaining yourself,
Speaker:trying to get seen by certain people.
Speaker:Whatever it is, we played a certain part of that dynamic.
Speaker:And what happens when we are in an unconscious dynamic is
Speaker:that it takes energy from us.
Speaker:It doesn't allow us to be in our authentic power.
Speaker:It limits us to this kind of unconscious play and dynamic that we are in.
Speaker:And you've been playing this.
Speaker:Role to perfection for many years.
Speaker:That is why it is so deeply ingrained in you.
Speaker:And we believe that we escape this role when we move out.
Speaker:That is why often there is this deep desire to move away, to bring distance
Speaker:between you and your family, even if it's a very healthy family dynamic.
Speaker:Even when they love you, this distance is necessary in order to get out of that
Speaker:role that you played in a dynamic in order to truly find your authentic self
Speaker:and your authentic role in this world.
Speaker:Because in family dynamics, that role has been defined for you.
Speaker:Whereas when you go into the world, you create that for you, which is
Speaker:of course, authentic and truthful.
Speaker:So even though when we bring distance to our family, when we create our
Speaker:own lives and create our own family, that still doesn't mean that we have
Speaker:entangled ourselves energetically from that unconscious dynamic that
Speaker:we find ourselves and we family.
Speaker:And I believe many of you know what I'm talking about because you might
Speaker:be really feeling really great in your spiritual journey in every
Speaker:area, most areas of your life.
Speaker:And then you go back to family or to specific family members and boom, you
Speaker:fall into these unconscious patterns.
Speaker:You start to overexplain yourself.
Speaker:You try to appease them.
Speaker:You try them to see you for who you are, but they're not seeing you.
Speaker:It's getting you activated.
Speaker:You no longer.
Speaker:Feel like yourself, you disconnect from yourself.
Speaker:When that happens, it shows that there is still something energetically
Speaker:that needs to be released that you need to unchain yourself from.
Speaker:Um, and that of course takes a lot of work because all of this is very unconscious.
Speaker:Another point is, and as harsh as this sounds, usually our family are not people
Speaker:we would necessarily choose as friends or our, as our inner circle right now.
Speaker:This might sound harsh, but there it's really actually not that harsh.
Speaker:It's your family.
Speaker:You haven't chosen your, well.
Speaker:Some people say the soul chooses the family, but, in this life consciously.
Speaker:Uh, right now, you haven't chosen your family, right?
Speaker:You came into this life, and later on you might realize that many of
Speaker:your family members do not share the same spiritual views as you, and you
Speaker:realize that they might have not been the people that you thought they were
Speaker:when you were a little child because there was a whole different dynamic.
Speaker:So this is very important to realize that our family is not the circle, the
Speaker:conscious circle we have chosen around us when we have, have, have done some deep
Speaker:healing and really found our path and who we want to surround ourselves with.
Speaker:So often they don't resemble our values.
Speaker:Actually, they couldn't be more different than us, most likely.
Speaker:And that in itself is neither good or bad.
Speaker:Because if you are waiting for your family to, to understand you and see you
Speaker:exactly as you are, you might be waiting your whole life because they might never.
Speaker:Let's talk about this later, because that in itself is something that we
Speaker:need to free ourselves from, having expectations that our family or certain
Speaker:family members will see ourselves.,
Speaker:So.
Speaker:Here comes already the conflict, right?
Speaker:Because as children, we saw them in a different light and now we
Speaker:are met with this resistance.
Speaker:We are met with maybe realizing that they do not support us unconditionally.
Speaker:They do not accept and love as unconditionally.
Speaker:We, we feel their judgments, And you will most likely feel that with
Speaker:specific family members much more.
Speaker:That's why this episode is specifically about dealing with your family in general,
Speaker:but specifically of course with those who very difficult, because those were
Speaker:very healthy, there is not much to deal with that anyway because it's healthy.
Speaker:So specifically those difficult family members, what's happening is that you
Speaker:might be met with a lot of resistance.
Speaker:There might even be jealousy, specifically between siblings, but
Speaker:this could be with any family members.
Speaker:So there, there can really be this sense of jealousy.
Speaker:And that can even feel as a sort of betrayal for you, because you
Speaker:have spent all this time with that person, you love them so deeply,
Speaker:and now they seem to be the opposite of what you thought they were.
Speaker:It's almost like you had all these ideas of how they are, and then you
Speaker:spend a few years away from your family, you create your own path.
Speaker:You go back and you realize, whoa, they're actually not the person I
Speaker:thought they were, and they might actually not accept me for who I am,
Speaker:and they're actually not seeing me.
Speaker:And they might even be jealous, and they might even be resistance.
Speaker:They might even try to play me down.
Speaker:Their shadow might be very activated with me.
Speaker:And that in itself is important.
Speaker:You need to come to this place where you are confronted with reality, so to speak.
Speaker:Because as children, we recreate these ideas and fantasy worlds.
Speaker:But as you grow up, you start to realize this world is not real.
Speaker:Or it's not real, but that it's just a bit romanticized.
Speaker:And now you see it in a different way, in a clearer way,
Speaker:almost like with fresh eyes.
Speaker:The eyes of a conscious being.
Speaker:Which leads us to the first step into really learning to deal with
Speaker:difficult family members specifically.
Speaker:Where are you still trying to be seen by them, by your parents,
Speaker:by a specific family member?
Speaker:And what behavior, energy and dynamics do you engage in as a result of that?
Speaker:What behavior, energy you go in and dynamics as a result of wanting
Speaker:to be seen by this specific family member who's not seeing you?
Speaker:So you might, for instance, you might come to the conclusion that you
Speaker:will still want to be seen by your mother, brother, sister, whatever.
Speaker:And as a result of that, you over explain about why you do
Speaker:what you do, your decisions.
Speaker:And in that oversharing, you breathe shallow.
Speaker:You feel like a child, energetically.
Speaker:It is immensely draining to you.
Speaker:What's happening is that that inner child inside you is still in that
Speaker:dynamic of wanting to be seen by them, wanting them to understand you, but
Speaker:that is not a healthy dynamic because that gives that person power over you.
Speaker:Now, let's go deep into this.
Speaker:Most likely they're not wanting to exert power over you
Speaker:unless they're highly abusive.
Speaker:We're gonna talk about this as well, right?
Speaker:That is a, that changes things significantly.
Speaker:But there is a difference, right?
Speaker:Between highly abusive.
Speaker:We had this episode about toxic relationships, you might wanna
Speaker:listen to that after this one.
Speaker:Huh.
Speaker:This is a perfect example of falling back into old patterns and energetically
Speaker:falling into the same role you played as a child, potentially.
Speaker:So now you need to become ultra present and aware in order to not fall into that,
Speaker:no matter how strong you feel the pull is.
Speaker:And this leads us to the harsh truth that we need to adopt, and perhaps the
Speaker:most important thing in order to deal with difficult family members, and that
Speaker:is they, if there are several ones or that one person will perhaps never fully
Speaker:see me for who I am, and that is okay.
Speaker:Can say it with me.
Speaker:They might never see me for who I am, and that is okay.
Speaker:Because you know what?
Speaker:It has to be okay because if it's not okay, then you are going to suffer.
Speaker:That doesn't mean you put up with it and you don't set boundaries, which
Speaker:you're gonna talk about in a second.
Speaker:But you have to release that.
Speaker:You have to release that part inside you that wants to be seen by them.
Speaker:Otherwise, you give their shadow power over you.
Speaker:And this is a dynamic that drains you.
Speaker:Because it's not in alignment.
Speaker:It's not where you are in your power.
Speaker:You disconnect from your power you are in these shadow dynamics.
Speaker:So this in itself releases the burden and the expectation.
Speaker:And when you embody this energy, your energy's naturally more protected
Speaker:and you are no longer visiting or speaking to them and trying to get a
Speaker:need met, you engage from and relate from a totally different place.
Speaker:Unless it's highly abusive, then you might unfortunately have to cut
Speaker:contact, in some extreme cases forever.
Speaker:In some other cases, um, it just means really keeping them at
Speaker:a distance, but hopefully that won't be the case for most of you.
Speaker:For many of you, it would just be a difficult dynamic, and by you stepping
Speaker:into that, you change that dynamic and you naturally have then stronger
Speaker:boundaries and your energy is protected.
Speaker:Which also leads us to the second harsh truth.
Speaker:With family, you relate in a different way than with your
Speaker:inner circle and your beloved.
Speaker:Hopefully to start with this with your inner circle, and beloved, you can
Speaker:really share your deepest heart without being shamed, without being ridiculed,
Speaker:without being judged, without being taken advantage of in some capacity, right?
Speaker:But that vulnerable sharing of your deepest heart might not be safe at
Speaker:all in your family, and that doesn't necessarily mean that then you
Speaker:can't have a relationship with them.
Speaker:But again, your family might not be on a spiritual journey.
Speaker:They might still be the same person they were when they were 16 years old.
Speaker:Their spiritual development stopped when they were at a specific age,
Speaker:which is not a judgment, it's just what happens when you don't work on yourself.
Speaker:These patterns only get worse, worse and worse, and the negativity
Speaker:accumulates and more emotional pain accumulates and gets projected.
Speaker:That's why it gets increasingly difficult to family members, because
Speaker:often what happens is that they are so trapped in their unconsciousness
Speaker:that it just accumulates and gets worse and worse and worse and worse.
Speaker:And the more spiritually aware we become, the more we sense that out
Speaker:of alignment and challenging energy.
Speaker:So you really have to ask yourself, is this a safe place
Speaker:to share my deepest heart?
Speaker:And in most cases, I'm gonna tell you already, it will not be.
Speaker:And that is okay to a certain degree.
Speaker:What do I mean by that?
Speaker:Well, your family members are most likely not highly evolved spiritual
Speaker:beings who can hold your challenges, your pain, your deepest vulnerability
Speaker:and fragility with great nuance without judging you, giving unsolicited
Speaker:advice or judging your partner.
Speaker:This goes specifically into the danger of oversharing.
Speaker:Because oversharing about your life when other people's shadows are strong,
Speaker:activated, and they're very identified with them, will often leads to their
Speaker:shadow getting active and then eliciting power over you in some shape or form.
Speaker:Instilling doubts within you and potentially even leading you down
Speaker:the wrong path, making you consider choices that are out of alignment.
Speaker:So this goes specifically about sharing about your relationship.
Speaker:Now, if your relationship is abusive, get help, seek help as quickly as possible.
Speaker:This doesn't apply.
Speaker:But if you have a great relationship, if you're deeply in love and you work
Speaker:through certain wounding, which is naturally in every relationship or
Speaker:challenges, it's part of it because no matter how deeply you love a
Speaker:person, you also are in relationship with their wounding, your wounding
Speaker:and relationship with their wounding.
Speaker:That's not the expression of who you both truly are at a soul level, but it's
Speaker:something you both will trigger, expose, and are meant to work through because
Speaker:the path is evolution through union.
Speaker:Evolution, not just intimacy and pleasure, but evolution.
Speaker:And you then start to overshare about these things with family members
Speaker:who can't hold that nuance, and see you for who you truly are, then
Speaker:they will say things and that will just feel really out of alignment.
Speaker:And if you have experienced this, you will notice yourself really not feeling good.
Speaker:They might judge your beloved.
Speaker:They might do this and that, and it's, it's not necessarily,
Speaker:again, because they're bad people.
Speaker:It's just about seeing things clearly as they are.
Speaker:They are not highly evolved spiritual beings.
Speaker:So in the rare cases, unless you've got a family of highly evolved shamans or,.
Speaker:It doesn't have to be a sha it could be anything, right?
Speaker:Even then it might not work.
Speaker:But it, it's just very, very rarely that the family, specifically with all
Speaker:the unconscious dynamics and shadows at work here, it's just not gonna work.
Speaker:This doesn't mean don't share anything and just be secretive or anything.
Speaker:No, no.
Speaker:But it means keep boundaries around what you share and how much access
Speaker:they have to your most intimate inner world and challenges.
Speaker:You are no longer a child.
Speaker:You don't need to explain to them every single challenge and what you are
Speaker:going through, you just don't need to.
Speaker:This is something for your closest people who are safe.
Speaker:I'm not saying don't be vulnerable in your life.
Speaker:I'm saying be vulnerable with the right people.
Speaker:Otherwise, you are going to get hurt.
Speaker:It's going to create a dynamic that is deeply, deeply draining
Speaker:you of your energy, and it will just activate people's shadow.
Speaker:So if your family asks you things you don't want to talk about,
Speaker:then you need to set boundaries.
Speaker:And this is where we go into the whole conversation of boundaries.
Speaker:Because this is really how you deal with a difficult family or
Speaker:difficult family members, uh, member.
Speaker:It's really through having healthy boundaries and asserting yourself.
Speaker:One of the main boundaries needs to be specifically when you're in
Speaker:a relationship, when you have a new family, um, your soul family
Speaker:is that you, um, protect them.
Speaker:And this means you don't allow others to kind of interfere with
Speaker:that, unless again, it's abusive.
Speaker:You think it's abusive, or you feel it's very unhealthy and
Speaker:toxic, then please get help.
Speaker:I'm not sure if getting help from your family is the wisest approach,
Speaker:but really that's not for me to say.
Speaker:That's only for you to, to judge in that moment.
Speaker:And if you need that help, then seek it as quickly as possible.
Speaker:But you set a different tone when you are, protecting the sacredness of your
Speaker:relationship with your beloved now.
Speaker:But by protecting your, relationship, from sharing too much about your
Speaker:partner, allowing them to infiltrate, it establishes a much more healthy
Speaker:dynamic with your family, where it's clear that they are not the number
Speaker:one priority, but your new family and the way you, uh, the things most
Speaker:important to you are off limits.
Speaker:People, they're not allowed to judge that.
Speaker:or to, to, to give unsolicited advice about that.
Speaker:That's, that's not something that's going to be discussed.
Speaker:That's not just what's happening.
Speaker:You're here to honor your time with your family, but not for them to question who
Speaker:you are, what you do, and all of that.
Speaker:That's off limits.
Speaker:And this relates to boundaries in general, keeping healthy boundaries.
Speaker:Don't share what you don't feel comfortable sharing with your family.
Speaker:Don't be always reachable for everything.
Speaker:You don't owe your family.
Speaker:If they guilt trip you around, you owing them, that is a wound for them.
Speaker:Yes, of course you want to be loving to your family.
Speaker:Of course, you want to give back to them for hopefully all the
Speaker:wonderful things they gave you, but you don't owe your family.
Speaker:And specifically if they make you feel like you owe them big time,
Speaker:that is very toxic, and you have to keep boundaries and protect
Speaker:yourself fiercely from that, right?
Speaker:Because that's not okay.
Speaker:That is an expression of absolutely conditional love.
Speaker:That's not safe.
Speaker:I'm not saying don't be reachable to your family, but what I'm saying
Speaker:is you're not here to owe them.
Speaker:You are here hopefully to have a great, continue, to have a great relationship
Speaker:with them, with very healthy boundaries, and you gain their respect by having
Speaker:these boundaries and by asserting them.
Speaker:And also this leads is more into the spiritual explanation of family.
Speaker:Family at a spiritual level is often here to test us, to make us aware
Speaker:of where we're still unconscious.
Speaker:So take it as an immensely powerful spiritual training ground for you
Speaker:to remain centered and also to continue to protect your energy.
Speaker:It might be difficult, but yet with healthy boundaries and respecting
Speaker:yourself, you can't have healthy boundaries if you don't honor
Speaker:yourself and respect yourself.
Speaker:But then it won't drain your energy.
Speaker:You will form a new relationship with your family, where they see you
Speaker:as a very respectable, clear person who is there, who loves them, but
Speaker:certain things are off limits and there are certain key boundaries,
Speaker:and that naturally draws respect.
Speaker:Now of course, going into the topic about extremely toxic family members
Speaker:where it really gets abusive, I don't know the context, so it's very
Speaker:hard for me to speak about this, because it's all about context.
Speaker:It's up to you to decide what you do, but you are allowed to
Speaker:cut family out of your life.
Speaker:You don't need to just be with them because it's family, because that's toxic.
Speaker:You wanna be, if it's somewhat able to, to be in a healthy way, it won't be perfect.
Speaker:It will never be perfect.
Speaker:Most likely shadows will be activated.
Speaker:But by you going having that approach, hopefully it will be in a, at least
Speaker:in a way that you can protect your energy and you don't feel like
Speaker:you completely lose your ground.
Speaker:But if that's not possible at all, then you have to really go at a distance
Speaker:set, perhaps even fierce boundaries, really have a clear conversation with
Speaker:them that you're not okay with them.
Speaker:The difficult thing here is that when you have a problem with
Speaker:one family member, it might then impact your other family members.
Speaker:So for instance, if it's your brother and you fall out with your brother,
Speaker:it'll impact your mother and father if they're still alive, and all of that.
Speaker:So this is very, very complicated, which also leads us to the next thing.
Speaker:Pick your battles wisely.
Speaker:Yes, you need to protect your energy specifically when there is abusive
Speaker:and highly toxic behavior, but still look at the part within you that might
Speaker:still be trying to change your family.
Speaker:That you want them to see the world the way you see it.
Speaker:You're trying to change them, to reform them to your spiritual views.
Speaker:If possible, keep healthy boundaries and accept them as
Speaker:they are with their limitations.
Speaker:If that is possible, then you will have the best relationship
Speaker:with them that is possible.
Speaker:It won't be perfect, but that way you're protecting every other
Speaker:relationship in the family as well.
Speaker:And also learning to accept others with their limitations in itself
Speaker:is a profound spiritual practice.
Speaker:'cause if you need to change people or tell them, or choose a fight with
Speaker:a family member just because they see things differently, then you are
Speaker:just choosing a battle that makes absolutely no sense and will just
Speaker:cause pain for everyone involved.
Speaker:Only choose a battle when you are forced to, and that is when it's really toxic
Speaker:and abusive and really, really unsafe and just in the realm of where it's not
Speaker:acceptable, the way you are being treated.
Speaker:And then of course you have to choose that battle because you are forced into it.
Speaker:I would start with very, very direct boundaries, have a clear communication,
Speaker:and if that doesn't lead anywhere, yes, then distance might be the
Speaker:only way to relate to how to relate to that person because they are so
Speaker:trapped in their shadow that they're just sucking so much energy from you
Speaker:and just the mere thinking of them or having even a phone conversation
Speaker:makes you completely ungrounded then yeah, that's not going to serve you.
Speaker:Which also leads us to a difficult topic, which is you love your family, you love
Speaker:your mother, you love your father, no matter what they did, because there is
Speaker:naturally that biological love, that archaic love that is naturally there
Speaker:for a daughter with her father, for a daughter with her mother, or for a
Speaker:son with his father and his mother.
Speaker:It's very challenging.
Speaker:Again, don't overshare to really conclude here.
Speaker:Don't overshare.
Speaker:Keep healthy boundaries.
Speaker:Protect your new family and make it clear that you have other priorities
Speaker:and that you don't owe anyone anything.
Speaker:Look at the parts inside you that are still wanting a certain
Speaker:family member to see you for who you are, and release that part.
Speaker:Accept the fact that they might never see you for who you are
Speaker:and be at peace with this.
Speaker:This in itself changes totally your energy and naturally leads also to more respect.
Speaker:It allows you to be in your authentic power.
Speaker:And see your family as a great spiritual training ground where you are really
Speaker:actively practicing to really embody the spiritual teachings at the deepest level.
Speaker:Because if you cook totally unconscious in with your family, then there is
Speaker:still some embodiment to be done.
Speaker:There is still certain things to heal, and yes, it's one of those toughest
Speaker:places, so see it as that and also as the practice if possible, to learn
Speaker:to accept them the way they are.
Speaker:And that really, really is a profound practice.
Speaker:This way, you no longer engage with all these expectations and
Speaker:this is how it needs to be, you need to see me, none of that.
Speaker:You release the role of a child that you played unconsciously, and
Speaker:you establish a new relationship.
Speaker:That is so much more empowering, ideally, often if it works.
Speaker:So much more refreshing, so much clearer, so much more honoring.
Speaker:And that allows you to protect your energy, stay in your power.
Speaker:So if you're seeing family soon, time to practice.
Speaker:Time to practice these things.
Speaker:Not easy, but with time and hopefully if it's possible in your family
Speaker:dynamics, you will establish a much more empowering relationship.
Speaker:And if you can't, and if it's absolutely impossible, then release that tool.
Speaker:Because yes, you are the cycle breakers, but that doesn't mean you
Speaker:break the cycle for your family.
Speaker:It's for you and those who you impact.
Speaker:You break the cycle for that, and if you have children, for your children, but
Speaker:you can't do that work for your family.
Speaker:And neither is it your responsibility.
Speaker:So much learnings here, dealing with family, so much grounded
Speaker:spirituality here, because love deeply, but also protect your heart.
Speaker:It's a beautiful paradox.
Speaker:All serves a purpose.
Speaker:We are here to evolve.
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Speaker:If you are seeing family soon, maybe you can take some notes, re-listen to
Speaker:the episodes, and then really practice these things to really make sure that
Speaker:your relationship with your family is as much spiritually aligned with
Speaker:your path and your heart as possible.
Speaker:And remember, it's always gonna be imperfect, most of them.
Speaker:But it's okay.
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