Dawn broke on April 6, 1862, shattering the Peace of Pittsburgh Landing, Tennessee.
ScottThe air, once filled with birdsong, now thundered with the roar of cannon fire and the cries of men.
ScottThe Battle of Shiloh had begun, and with it, a day that would forever change the course of the American Civil War.
ScottUnion forces under the command of Major Ulysses S.
ScottGrant found themselves caught in a nightmare.
ScottTheir camp nestled near Shiloh.
ScottChurch had seemed secure.
ScottGrant, battle hardened but perhaps overly confident, had not ordered the construction of defensive fortifications.
ScottIt was a decision that would haunt him as the day unfolded.
ScottLike demons emerging from the mist, confederate soldiers materialized from the woods.
ScottLed by the brilliant General Albert Sidney Johnston, the army of the Mississippi descended upon the unprepared Union troops with terrible fury.
ScottThe air filled with the acrid smell of gunpowder and metallic tang of blood, cannons booming, a relentless rain of death.
ScottAcross the woods, chaos reigned as blue clad soldiers scrambled for their weapons, many still wiping sleep from their eyes.
ScottThe initial confederate onslaught sent waves of panic through the Union lines.
ScottMen who had dreamed of glory now faced the stark reality of war, and some broke ranks, fleeing in terror.
ScottYet amidst the mayhem, islands of resistance formed, none more formidable than the area that would come to be known as the hornets nest.
ScottHere, the determined Union soldiers transformed a sunken road into a fortress, their resolve as unyielding as the oak trees that surrounded them.
ScottAs the sun climbed higher, so did the body count.
ScottThe ground, once green with spring growth, now ran red with the lifeblood of both north and southeast.
ScottIn a cruel twist of fate, Confederate General Johnston, the architect of this audacious assault, fell victim to a stray bullet.
ScottAs his lifeblood ebbed away on the battlefield, so, too did the initial momentum of the confederate attack.
ScottGeneral Pgt.
ScottBeauregard assumed command, rallying the confederate forces for one final push.
ScottThe Union lines bent, threatening to break entirely.
ScottGrant, his uniform caked with mud and gunpowder, moved tirelessly along the front, a rock amid the storm, firing his men to hold fast against the relentless grey tide.
ScottAs dusk fell on Shiloh, the battered Union forces found themselves pushed to the very edge of the Tennessee river.
ScottThe backs against the water, they faced a grim reality.
ScottThe Confederates, despite their losses, seemed poised for victory.
ScottThe first day of battle ended with the Union army clinging desperately to a shrinking pocket of land as over 2000 Union troops finally surrendered the infamous hornets nest.
ScottIn the eerie calm that followed the days carnage, Grant surveyed the devastation, the moans of the wounded and dying filling the air, a haunting lullaby to the horrors of war.
ScottThe Union forces were bloodied, battered, and on the brink of defeat, their fate hung by a thread.
ScottAs night enveloped the battlefield, a crucial question lingered in the air, heavy as the smoke from spent gunpowder.
ScottWould reinforcements arrive in time?
ScottOr would dawn bring only the final crushing blow of a confederate victory?
ScottThe answers lay shrouded in the darkness, as uncertain as the future of Venetian itself.
ScottThe games you see, you won't let me be.
ScottWelcome to talk with history.
ScottI am your host, Scott, here with my wife and historian, Jen.
JenHello.
ScottOn this podcast, we give you insights to our history inspired world travels YouTube channel journey and examine history through deeper conversations with the curious, the explorers, and the history lovers out there.
ScottI just want to say up front, this was a much from the non history nerd here from new listeners.
ScottScott is the non history alert nerd.
ScottEven though I'm the host, I enjoyed this battlefield more than I expected.
ScottAnd learning about this battle, it was like a short, two day, intense battle.
ScottA lot happened.
ScottMomentum was swinging both ways.
ScottAll these big names, some made their name there, some lost their lives there.
ScottIt was one of the bloodiest battles.
ScottA lot happened at Shiloh.
ScottSo let's get right into it.
JenYeah.
JenI think Shiloh is not given a lot of credit for what it was in the civil war.
JenShiloh is such a turning point in a lot of different ways.
JenCareers are made at Shiloh.
JenCareers are ended at Shiloh.
JenI would say the bulk of the war hinges on that whole battle.
JenThe momentum will be gained for one side, loss for another, and just the footing of the position of it is going to be so important.
ScottIt really seemed to establish relatively early in the civil war.
ScottRight.
ScottIt's 1862, so still got a couple years till it's going to end.
ScottIt really seemed to cement, obviously, union leadership, but then really remove some key confederate leadership that we'll talk about here in a little bit.
JenYeah, but what else it did?
JenIt did two things as much as it was.
JenIt ends up being a Union victory.
JenIt establishes two things that are just, I would say, not great for everybody.
JenIt establishes that the Confederates are in this to the end.
JenGrant realizes at Shiloh, and he's able to really portray that to Lincoln that these guys are going to fight until the end.
JenThis is not going to be an easy war.
JenThis is not going to be, oh, we're just going to shut him down with a couple battles like they thought it was going to be.
JenWe're just going to go down there and capture the railroad, and that'll be it.
JenThey'll be like, okay, fine, you guys.
JenOne, he realizes the fight in these southern men.
JenAnd it's the fight to the end.
JenAnd the country, I think, starts to realize with all the casualties at Shiloh that people are willing to die for their cause for both sides, and that we're in this for the long haul now.
JenAnd I think that realization happens across the board for the north and the south coming out of the battle of Shiloh.
JenAnd I want to talk about the duality of Shiloh because the north is called the Battle of Pittsburgh landing.
JenSo there's a lot of duality you're going to see throughout the civil war.
JenIn general, they're named different things depending on what side is telling the story.
JenAnd Shiloh is what the south refers to it.
JenIt's the battle of Shiloh because there is a church there or a one room log cabin meeting place that they used as a church, sometimes called shiloh, which means peace in Hebrew, which sounds ironic, but Pittsburgh landing is what it's called for the north.
JenAnd the reason why it's called Pittsburgh Landing is that's the part of the Tennessee river where they offload all these troops.
JenSo it's just a.
JenFor the topography of it, it's a good location to offload troops from ships.
ScottYeah.
ScottAnd we show that Pittsburgh landing.
ScottRight.
ScottThey still call it that area of it today, even though it's the.
ScottShiloh is the name of the battlefield.
ScottWe do a pretty good job of kind of showing that part of the Tennessee river or that part of the river in Pittsburgh Landing and really giving you a good kind of visualization of how ships would come in and offload it.
JenIt still looks like it does today.
JenAnd if you ever traveled along the Tennessee river or the Mississippi, there are certain parts that are not as easy accessible for people, and there's parts that look like it's very accessible for people.
JenThe whole area was picked by Shermandhe so he could offload all of the troops and they could camp out there.
JenAnd Sherman made his camp by Shiloh because it's an open field when you're there.
JenSo this duality, you're going to see it in a couple different areas.
JenThe sunken road is going to be referred to the hornet's Nest, sunken road by the north, Hornet's Nest by the south.
JenSo when you're talking about things in the civil war, I want to remind people that sometimes you could be using two different terms but talking about the exact same thing.
JenSo if someone's.
JenI want to talk about Pittsburgh landing, you're like, well, I want to talk about Shiloh.
JenWell, you're talking about the same thing.
ScottYeah.
ScottSo now remind me how the forces ended up converging on this spot to begin with.
JenSo, like you said, it's 1862, it's early in the war.
JenThis is the north penetrating the south.
JenGrant is not the commander of the union forces at this time, but he is a high ranking general and he is making his name, and he has just had two major victories in Tennessee.
JenHe has taken, I think it was Fort Donaldson and Fort Henry and Nashville, Tennessee.
JenAnd so in March of 1862 is when they occupy Pittsburgh landing.
JenSo Grant's working with Sherman.
JenThey're coming down, they're bringing their troops.
JenThey have about 40,000 troops.
JenAnd Grant stays a little further up the Tennessee river in a place called Savannah.
JenTennessee can get confusing, but, and then everybody else, all the troops come down to Pittsburgh landing and Sherman camps out by Shiloh, because it's an easy place to offload these troops and they're heading on to.
JenNow, make sure I say it right, Scott.
JenCorinth.
ScottNo, it's Corinth.
ScottThe reason that Jen asked that question, if you haven't watched our video, we didn't realize it until after we got back from Shiloh.
ScottAnd I was looking over the footage and she said it a few times, and I was looking at maps, and I was like, oh, my goodness.
ScottShe swapped, like the I and the n, so she kept saying Corinth, as in corn and then ith, when it's actually Corinth, as in, like corinthians, the book of the Bible.
JenCorinth.
ScottSo Corinth, Mississippi.
JenCorinth.
JenSo Corinth is where they want to go, and it's south of Pittsburgh Landing.
ScottAnd I believe strategically, that was, like, just a central location for railroads, for, obviously, the rivers, some rivers that were intersecting in that area.
ScottSo it was just a natural convergence of logistics, which is what a lot of wars are fought around.
JenWell, it's exactly what they're looking for, this strategic railroad crossing, because it's two major railroads that cross right there.
JenIt's the mobile Ohio Railroad and the Memphis Charleston Railroad.
JenAnd all the logistics, think of food, think of ammunition, think of clothing, think of troops are going to travel along those railroad lines.
JenAnd so if you can cut off the railroad, especially to major areas where the south is penetrating, it's just a major victory.
JenSo that's what they want.
JenSo grant and Sherman are making their camp knowing that they're going to go on to Corinth.
ScottCorinth.
JenCorinth.
ScottLike Corinthians.
JenLike Corinthians I know pronunciation is not my strong suit, but they're told to wait because gonna be reinforced by troops.
JenSo they're gonna be enforced by the army of the Ohio.
JenIt's coming to meet them, about 16,000 troops.
JenSo right now they have about 45.
JenThey're waiting for about 16,000.
JenSo they're told to wait.
JenWait until you get those troops, and then you can go on and attack.
JenNow on the other side, on the south side, they realize that they're coming down, and they have high morale right now.
JenSo we need to stop them.
JenAnd so you're gonna get Johnston, who is this?
JenHe's considered, like, a great leader.
JenHe's really good friends with Jefferson Davis.
ScottHe's, like one of the senior generals in the confederate army.
JenHe is, like, one of the most senior generals, and he's gonna be the most senior person killed in the civil war, period.
JenHe takes Beauregard and their troops, and they wanna attack him.
JenThey wanna be on the offensive, because you always have the upper hand if you're on the offensive.
JenAnd so they.
JenThey had actually planned to attack three days earlier.
JenBut what's happening right now in April in Tennessee is a lot of rain.
ScottIf we are living in Tennessee right now, and that is rainy season here, rainy season.
JenAnd if you've never been in a southern rain before, oh, my gosh, you can't even see on the road.
JenSometimes it is big, huge raindrops that come quickly, and it's penetrating.
JenAnd what happened is it all these men are really traveling by foot and by wagon, so the crown is just muddy and boggy, and you're by a river.
JenYou can just imagine the sickness with the mosquitoes.
JenSo you're dealing with a lot of those issues.
JenThey wait a couple days for the rain to clear up.
JenWell, I think there's a couple things that are their downfall, but that waiting is one of them, because they wait until April 6, and they attack the morning of April 6.
JenNow, Sherman knows they're out there.
JenHe doesn't know where.
JenHe hears them.
JenThey're firing random shots.
ScottI think I read that there were some accounts from the union side that they knew that they were out there because the Confederates were, like, practicing their cannon fire or something like that.
ScottBut if so, that would lead one to believe that, yes, the forces are out there somewhere.
ScottI may not know exactly where they are.
ScottSo that, like you said, it wasn't 100% a surprise.
ScottBut they weren't expecting them to attack.
JenYeah, they were expecting the attack to happen.
JenIn Corinth.
JenIs that right?
JenSo, Sherman actually goes out early in the morning of April 6 to check out what they're doing.
JenHe has his field glasses, binoculars up, and he's looking, and his aide gets shot and killed right beside him, and the field glasses get shot right out of his hand.
JenSo this is about 06:00 a.m.
Jenon the 6th, and Grant, up in Savannah, which is up the river about 10 miles, hears it.
ScottHe hears the cannon fire.
JenHe hears the cannon fire, so much so he stops eating breakfast.
JenHe gets on his own steamer, the Tigris, and gets down to Pittsburgh, landing.
ScottWithin two to 3 hours.
JenYeah, he's there by 09:00 a.m.
Jenwhich is a myth.
JenA myth that grant wasn't there, a myth that grant missed the first day, a myth that grant wasn't with his army when they were attacked.
JenThat's not true.
ScottAnd I remember reading, too, when we were there, that grant put a ton of trust in Sherman.
ScottHe trusted Sherman quite a bit.
ScottAnd when he got down there, he was walking the lines and doing what a general should is making sure they're showing up here and there and kind of like instilling confidence in the men.
ScottAnd then when he got down to Sherman, he basically saw that he was here, checked with them, and was like, great.
ScottYou got it.
ScottAnd he went to the rest of his troops and let Sherman hold his part of the front.
JenI mean, they're west point grads.
JenSherman will be the only one that day on the battlefield who's West Point grad besides grant.
JenAnd so they trust each other.
JenPlus, they have proven themselves both.
JenThey have both been in battles together.
JenThey have both proven their worth, proven that they fight, and they both deal with, let's say, propaganda in the news, which is no different than anybody else who's doing well from both sides.
JenPeople are jealous in the north of both of their success, and then people in the south are trying to discredit them.
JenSo Grant's being called an alcoholic.
JenSherman's being called a warmonger.
JenRight.
JenSo both of them, and they're both laughing at each other about these lies about them.
ScottYeah, like they joke with each other about it.
JenYeah, but they're both there to fight.
JenSo you get the fighting starting about 06:00 a.m.
Jena.
JenLot of artillery, a lot of cannons have been brought in.
JenSo if you go to the battle of Shiloh, you'll see a lot of cannons, which means that the south was there to fight and the north is surprised.
JenThey get ready they get up on their horses and they start to engage.
JenBut this first day, I want to remind people, it's pretty even.
JenI see a lot of information that'll always say, oh, it was 65,000 troops against 44,000 Confederates.
JenNo, in the end, that's true on the second day.
JenOn the second day.
JenOn the first day, it's about 40,000 union and 44,000 Confederates.
JenAnd that's why the Confederates basically are kick butt.
JenThat first day.
ScottYeah, I mean, basically, and I think you made this point in the video, was by the end of the first day that the scales were tipping on the side of the confederacy.
ScottThey had the momentum.
JenThey have pushed them basically all the way back to Pittsburgh, landing to the river.
JenThey have taken Shiloh.
JenThey're sleeping in Sherman's camp that first night.
JenNow, the only saving grace for the union is the sunken road, the Hornets nest.
JenWhat they're both called is, like a little road.
JenThey call it the sunken road.
JenCause it was like a wagon road.
JenYeah.
ScottIt's not like you hear that name and you would think, oh, they call it that because it was like this ditch.
ScottIt really wasn't.
ScottIt was basically a trail.
JenYeah, it's basically a trail.
JenAnd I want people to remember that they didn't protect and save the Shiloh area until the 1890s, 1894.
JenSo it's about 30 years later.
JenSo stories were embellished and changed, and they even said the first person who wrote about the sunken road in their journal wasn't even in a position to see it.
ScottOh, interesting.
JenSo it's one of those legends that become fact.
ScottYeah.
ScottSo now you mentioned the hornet's nest, and we talk a little bit about that in the video because the Hornet's nest was one of those things that the Confederates.
ScottI mean, it took all day for them to take that position because Union forces at the Hornets nest, the reason they got that nickname from the south was because it was so difficult to defeat them.
ScottAnd basically, like 12 hours of battle of Confederates trying to take that part of the line.
ScottAnd then by the end of the day, I think it was, like, around 530.
ScottThere's a sign that had it.
JenYep.
JenYou get two really great leaders here.
JenI would say one Wallace.
JenWallace is the guy.
JenThink of Wallace from Braveheart.
ScottYeah, he was Union.
JenHe's Union.
JenHe's the guy.
JenHe's holding this hornet's nest.
JenThey have about 1000 men at first, and then it dwindles down to 300.
JenAnd it's kind of like you.
JenAs the Confederates are pushing the union back.
JenThink of them pushing around on the left and the right, and the middle is staying strong.
JenAnd that's what the hornet's nest looks like in Shiloh, is they're pushing the union, and they're making headway on the right.
JenThat's where Sherman is really going to fall back.
JenThey're making headway on the left.
JenHowever you're looking at, that's kind of what the river is.
JenAnd then around them as they kind of encircle, is this hornet's nest where Wallace is saying, and they call it the hornet's nest the south, because these guys won't give up, and they keep fighting.
JenNow, we take you there in the video.
JenThe hornets nest is a very thick, wooden area, like a thicket.
JenAnd again, we got the rain, we got the fog.
JenWe have artillery that's hitting.
JenSo everything is foggy and hard to see.
JenBut these trees are providing so much cover for these men where the Confederates are out in the open.
JenSo every time the Confederates try to hit them, like, 200 men, they're always pushed back because the guys, the union can hide behind the trees, and so they're really holding their own.
JenWallace will go and try to find a way to retreat, and Wallace is killed.
JenAnd then that's when prentice will take over, and he fights as well.
JenWhat's great about the hornets nest or the sunken road at Northwood call it, is they don't surrender until 05:30 p.m.
ScottI think you said on the video.
ScottIt basically gives time for the rest of the union to really reinforce themselves as they're falling back.
JenYes, they reinforce themselves.
JenThey fall back to Pittsburgh landing kind of today, where you would see where the cemetery is.
JenAnd Beauregard Johnston has been killed.
JenWe'll talk about his death, but Johnston has been killed by here.
JenBeauregard has taken control, and he's basically exhausted.
JenHis troops are exhausted.
JenAnd people say this is a blunder.
JenBeauregard, that first day, he should have kept going.
JenThere's Grant going, where's anybody going?
ScottHe had him on his heels.
JenHe had him on his heels.
JenHe's not reinforced yet, but his troops have basically, the Confederates, I hate to admit it, they've stopped fighting.
JenThey're exhausted.
JenThey're hungry.
JenThey start to pillage the camps that they've captured.
JenThey go for more weapons.
JenThey go for food.
JenThey start to relax.
JenThey were exhausted.
JenAnd so even if Beauregard could have kept fighting, his troops were done that day.
ScottYeah.
ScottSo that was the night of April 6.
ScottAnd then basically, that night, everybody just rested it.
JenRested except for the union.
JenThere's two, what they call temper clads.
JenSo they're not ironclads.
JenThey're union ships that are really, really thick wood.
JenThey fire throughout the night onto the Confederates, and so they, I would say, keep it alive.
ScottKeep the pressure a little bit.
JenKeep the pressure a little bit.
ScottNow, overnight, the union does get their reinforcements.
JenDon Carlos Buell gets there about midnight, and between midnight four and 04:00 a.m.
Jenhe brings everyone on board, and that's additional.
ScottWhat do you say?
Scott15 to 20,000.
Jen15,000 fresh troops for the union.
JenNow, Grant, that night, Grant has had a mishap.
JenHe's fallen.
JenHis horse has fallen on him and squished his leg and hurt his ankle.
JenSo he went to a makeshift hospital tent that's by Pittsburgh landing, and he didn't want to stay in the tents anymore because they smelled the blood and people screaming.
JenSo he walks outside and sits under a big tree.
JenIf you go to Shiloh, there's a big kind of cannon that says, grant's headquarters.
JenThe night of April 6.
ScottOh, interesting.
JenHis headquarters was a tree.
JenHe sits under this big oak tree.
JenSherman comes to see him, and he goes, what a devil of a day.
JenAnd Grant will say, but we'll lick him tomorrow.
ScottOh, interesting.
JenLike he is in this fight.
JenAnd so Buell comes that day, and so Grant wants to have the offensive.
Jen06:00 a.m.
Jenoffensive just like they came to them the day before.
JenThe Union will attack at 06:00 a.m.
Jenthe next morning, and it's a surprise for the Confederates because they're thinking that the unit is just as tired as they are.
ScottBut then all of a sudden, there's 15,000 fresh troops.
Jen15,000.
JenNow, the Confederates had.
JenI think they had 600 fresh troops themselves, but nothing near as what Grant had gotten.
JenAnd so they're so able to push back and fight.
JenAnd Beauregard, I think it's by noon on the 7th, starts his retreat, and that's where they go, back to Corinth, and they retreat so much so that they say, confederates just ran all the way back.
JenWe're done.
JenAnd Sherman and Grant don't go past where they were.
ScottYeah.
ScottNow, there was a couple of kind of larger than life historical figures we've talked about, one or two of them, some interesting stories about them, Sherman specifically, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but if I remember right, when we went there, he had his horse shot out from him, underneath him, three times in those two days?
JenYeah, three different times.
JenAnd his field glasses, remember, were shot out of his hand the first day.
JenAnd his aide was killed right beside him.
JenSo whoever was picking which one to shoot could have shot him.
JenSo you get like these again.
JenThese are moments, these turning points.
JenSherman, his horse, is shot out from him multiple times.
JenHe misses, his field glasses are shot from him.
JenBut then you're going to get Johnston, who's killed.
JenWho's killed this high ranking Confederate who.
JenWhat happens is, he could have been saved.
JenHe's shot in the leg where it severs an artery, but it's in his boots where they can't see it, so.
ScottHe couldn't feel it.
JenHe's had nerve damage in that leg, so he can't really even feel it.
JenAnd he's been.
JenHis uniform's been shot up a couple times, so he looks ragged anyway.
JenBut people see the trail of blood, and it's within an hour, he bleeds out.
ScottHe basically just falls over on his horse.
JenThey pull him off his horse, and he does.
JenThey still can't even find the wound.
ScottAs he's dead because it's like, in his boot.
JenIt's in his boot.
JenBut they had a tourniquet.
JenA tourniquet could have saved his life, and it wasn't used.
JenSo you get these good luck, bad luck things happening to high ranking people on either side.
JenAnd once Davis hears that Johnston has been killed, he even fears for the rest of the war, this is gonna be a real hit to the morale of the south.
ScottNow, there was one other kind of well known historical figure that had a small part on the tail end of the second day, and that was Nathan Bedford Forrest.
ScottSo the story, if I remember right, about him, Washington, he was leading a small kind of squad of men or something like that, and they get encircled by union troops.
ScottAnd so the Union troops are trying to capture him because he's sitting on his horse, and they can see he's an officer.
ScottAnd he basically was pretty crazy.
ScottSomething like, he, like, charges these union soldiers that are coming at him, and he basically scoops one up and uses them as a human shield as he's riding through the rest of them to run off and escape.
JenCrazy story.
JenAnd if you've ever seen that crazy Nathan Bedford Forest statue that they used to have heading up to Nashville, this is not actually the day of the battle.
JenIt's the day after.
JenIt's April 8.
ScottApril 8.
JenIt's called timber falls because it's even further back than the battlefield.
JenAnd american battlefield trust is actually trying to preserve this area right now.
JenSo what happens is Sherman is riding out to see where the armies have gone.
JenWhere have the Confederates gone to?
JenWhere have they retreated to?
JenAnd timber Falls has become a makeshift hospital for the Confederates.
JenAnd Nathan Bedford forest, who has missed battle.
JenHe wasn't in Shiloh.
JenHe gets there that day.
JenThat's why he's so fresh and ready to fight.
JenSees the Confederates coming, and he wants to protect the men in the hospital.
JenSo that's what he's doing.
JenHe's riding out to protect those men to give him time.
JenNow, Sherman sees this.
JenEveryone's, like, battle worn and tired.
JenSo Sherman sees this guy and how full of piss and vinegar he is, and they back off.
JenAnd they go back.
ScottYeah.
ScottNow, if the name Nathan Bedford Forest sounds familiar to you and you can't place, like, why do I know that name?
ScottWell, it's because he's better known for some.
ScottSome other stuff throughout history.
JenYeah, he's actually the first episode we ever did on walk with history because he had a statue in Memphis.
JenWhen we first moved to Memphis, we were both Yankees who had no idea who Nathan Bedford Forrest even was, and he had this very prominent statue in Memphis, Tennessee.
JenSo I made a video kind of explaining to my family and people who he was.
JenThe statue was no longer there.
JenIt has been removed.
JenBut he was a confederate general.
JenHe survives the civil war.
JenHe goes on to be instrumental in the beginning of the Ku Klux Klan.
ScottI think he was pretty well known for Fort Pillow.
JenYes, he's very well known for Fort Pillow, and that's what the video is about.
JenFort pillow, where african american troops were captured, Union troops were captured.
ScottYeah.
ScottSo there's all these larger than life historical figures at this battle.
ScottThat was one of the things that was just.
ScottI was so pleasantly surprised by whether it's beauregard and Johnston and Grant and Sherman and Nathan Bedford Forest.
ScottAnd I was like, I know all these names, and I am just the general.
ScottI barely paid attention to history in high school person.
ScottSo it was just a fascinating kind of historical story for us to tell Ydev.
JenAnd it's a beautiful battlefield.
ScottIt's very well done.
JenThe north has gettysburg.
JenThe south has Shiloh.
ScottIt's beautiful.
JenNow, we haven't done Vicksburg.
JenWe're going to Vicksburg tomorrow.
JenBut Shiloh is beautiful.
JenIt needs its due, because what you come out of Shiloh with is that famous saying from Lincoln.
JenNow, what happens at Shiloh is the casualties of Shiloh.
JenSo I was just reading the human cost of Shiloh is 24% of all confederate soldiers present will die.
Jen24% if you were present the first day as a union troop, 26% chance of dying.
JenIf you were there the second day, it's 20% so.
JenAnd as a whole, anybody who fought in Shiloh, the total casualties was 21%.
JenThis was the first time that had happened on american soil.
JenSo both sides are just rung through the wringer in the press.
JenSo Grant, even though this turns out, he's clenching a victory from the jaws of defeat.
JenHe's run through the ringer for all the loss of life.
JenWhen you go to Shiloh, that's why there's mass pits of confederate dead.
JenThere is a cemetery there now that wasn't there at the beginning.
JenThey had Dugdez men up and put them into that cemetery.
JenThere are two Confederates that found their way into that cemetery.
JenThey're marked as well, if you ever want to go there.
JenBut Lincoln is going to get such criticism from, again, the other Union generals, because Grant is not the head of the Union army as of yet.
JenWhy are we allowing this man to have such control?
JenWhy are we allowing Grant to have such control?
JenLook at how he just disregards human life and kills men.
JenAnd Lincoln's famous comeback is, I cannot spare this man.
JenHe fights.
JenSo he has been used to.
JenThis is early in the war.
JenHe's used to retreats.
JenHe's used to people who don't fight.
JenAnd Grant fights, and you get unconditional surrender.
ScottGrant, he's really the answer to the Robert E.
ScottLee Stonewall Jackson combo.
ScottRight?
ScottHe really is.
ScottAnd he's the first.
ScottFirst one that gains notoriety for that.
ScottWhereas on the confederate side, they had some very well established, very smart, very good military leadership on their side.
JenYes.
JenSo you're going to get this combo of Grant and Sherman coming out that are going to be the duality of Lee and Jackson.
JenAnd we know what eventually happens to Jackson.
JenSo it's one of those turning point battles that was just so pinnacle to where the war was going to go.
JenAnd this is when we're going to get into the southern theater now.
JenRight.
JenThe Union is going to push through into the south now, and we're going to be going to Vicksburg, and we'll talk more about that battle.
JenBut it was just amazing to go to Shiloh.
JenIt has a lot of legends.
JenHopefully, we've talked about some of those and we've made some of them.
JenRight.
JenBut it's one of those places that it really does remind me of.
JenGettysburg yeah, it's very drivable.
JenThey have markers everywhere that explain things and explain the markers to you.
JenThey can.
JenThey really tell you the difference between the first day and the second day, which is really great because you get such a great battle between these first, these two days.
JenAnd so it's a beautiful battlefield, and I just recommend anyone get out there and go to it if you get the chance, because for us, it was someplace we always wanted to go.
JenAnd now that we've been, I don't know why we didn't go sooner.
ScottYeah, it was amazing.
ScottIf you were in this general area of Tennessee, I think it was about, what, an hour and a half for us from Memphis towards Nashville.
ScottIt's absolutely worth taking a day.
ScottYou could probably spend a good part of a day there and go see Shiloh, even if you just do the driving tour and then, and then the museum.
ScottIt was.
ScottIt was really pretty incredible.
ScottAs the first light of dawn crept over Tennessee on April 7, 1862, the weary Union soldiers braced themselves for what seemed to be their final stand.
ScottBut fate, it seemed, had other plans.
ScottIn the early hours of the morning, the unmistakable sound of steamboat whistles pierced the air.
ScottIt was the sound that filled the Union troops with renewed hope and the Confederate with dreadland.
ScottMajor General Don Carlos Buell's army of the Ohio had arrived, bringing with them fresh troops.
ScottGrant, his determination unwavering despite the previous day's setbacks, wasted no time.
ScottHe quickly integrated Buell's forces into his battered lines and prepared for a counterattack.
ScottThe reinforcements were not just a numerical advantage.
ScottThey brought with them a surge of morale that electrified the Union ranks.
ScottAs the sun rose higher, illuminating the blood soaked fields of Shiloh, Grant unleashed his reinvigorated army.
ScottThe Union forces, now outnumbering the confederate foes, advanced with a ferocity that caught the southern troops off guard.
ScottThe tables had turned.
ScottNow it was the Confederates who found themselves pushed back, struggling to maintain their cohesion in the face of the relentless Union assault.
ScottThe very ground they had conquered the day before was now slipping from their grasp.
ScottThroughout the day, the battle raged with renewed intensity.
ScottThe Union troops, emboldened by their reinforcements, fought with a vigor that belied their exhaustion.
ScottThey reclaimed lost positions, pushing the confederate lines further and further back.
ScottGeneral Beauregard, recognizing the shifting tides of battle, made the difficult decision to withdraw.
ScottBy mid afternoon, he ordered a general retreat, pulling his battered forces back towards Corinth, Mississippi.
ScottAs the confederate army began its withdrawal, the full extent of the battle's toll became apparent.
ScottThe fields of Shiloh were a grim testament to the war's brutality.
ScottLittered with bodies of over 23,000 dead, wounded, or missing soldiers from both sides.
ScottThe Battle of Shiloh had ended, but its impact would resonate throughout the rest of the war.
ScottThe Union victory snatched from the jaws of defeat, had preserved Grant's army and dealt a significant blow to the confederate hopes in the western theater.
ScottAs the sun set on April 7, the surviving soldiers of both armies grappled with the enormity of what they had experienced.
ScottThe battle had been a brutal awakening, dispelling romantic notions of war and revealing its true horrific nature.
ScottFor Grant, the victory was bittersweet.
ScottThe heavy casualties and the near disaster of the first day would haunt him, but the experience would shape him into the tenacious commander who would ultimately lead the Union to victory.
ScottThe road ahead remained long and bloody, but the Union's resolve, tested in the fires of Shiloh, had emerged stronger than ever.
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ScottBoom, boom.