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Speaker BJust turn it on and off every time.
Speaker AIs that all you did?
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker ABecause it started turning green when you turn it on.
Speaker AAll right, all right.
Speaker ATry not to rub the mics too hard there, chief.
Speaker AOkay, okay, okay.
Speaker ATry to be a little gentle on the microphones.
Speaker BLittle gentle on the microphones.
Speaker AThis is expensive equipment, so.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo they're.
Speaker BAre you ready to do this?
Speaker AYeah, I think so every once in a while.
Speaker BThen let's do this.
Speaker BWelcome back to the number one financial literacy podcast in the world.
Speaker BSitting next to me on my left is my partner in crime, Kris Nahibi.
Speaker AAnd sitting next to me on my right, my partner in time.
Speaker AThe one, the only, the man, the myth of legend.
Speaker ASay Omar, everybody.
Speaker BThank you, my man.
Speaker BAnd sitting behind the ones and twos is nobody.
Speaker BWe're just going to leave it right there?
Speaker BYeah, right there.
Speaker AMonster can.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AUltra Blue Hawaiian.
Speaker BNot sponsored.
Speaker ASo good.
Speaker AShould be sponsored.
Speaker BShould be sponsored.
Speaker AFantastic.
Speaker ASo I have been eagerly anticipating this episode for a number of reasons.
Speaker AI'm going to geek out hard today.
Speaker BOh, we're going to be geeking.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AWe're going to be all in on quantum computing.
Speaker BLet's do this.
Speaker AWhich we foreshadowed in previous shows.
Speaker APeople said they wanted to hear it, so I put this on you, everybody.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AYou guys did this to you.
Speaker BWhich is a nice little piggyback off of the AI episode that we had.
Speaker AAnd we still have to circle back on some of the AI stuff.
Speaker AThere's a whole, like, ethical kind of arc to the AI argument that we really didn't cover, which is really fascinating.
Speaker AI was kind of building to it, but we didn't get there.
Speaker AOkay, but before we get too far into the show, we got a couple house cleaning items to get to right off the bat.
Speaker ASo shall I?
Speaker APlease.
Speaker AYou know, look at you being all gracious and everything.
Speaker AIt's awkward for all of us.
Speaker ABesides appropriate and polite, but unfortunately, you're gonna get more appropriate and polite side over time, because apparently, or fortunately.
Speaker AYeah, it's.
Speaker BYou now don't have to listen with your AirPods on.
Speaker BYou can listen to it in the car with.
Speaker BWith your families.
Speaker AThat's the sad truth.
Speaker ASo if you follow the show's social channels, we made some posts across all of our social platforms, but I'm going to go ahead and read it.
Speaker AI think it's probably worthwhile.
Speaker BLet's do it.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASo an important update on the higher standard podcast for all of you who didn't happen to catch the social media channels from day one.
Speaker AThe higher standard was built on the idea of bringing financial literacy to a younger audience, but it wasn't exclusive to that younger audience.
Speaker ASay it's got ice in his veins.
Speaker ABreaking down complex financial topics in a way that feels more like a conversation with friends rather than just another podcast with two allegedly experienced professionals talking in a room, which we are in at almost 10 o'clock at night.
Speaker AOn a Thursday night.
Speaker BOn a Thursday night.
Speaker BIt is actually 10:04.
Speaker AOh, God.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker AYeah, we're old.
Speaker AAs part of our commitment to expanding our reach and impact, my co host Saeed and I, the one and only, the Louie Anderson of podcasting.
Speaker BThe Louie Anderson.
Speaker BNo man's the Barry White.
Speaker AI put in the last show notes.
Speaker AThe last show.
Speaker AYou didn't catch it?
Speaker AThe big gap in your teeth?
Speaker BYeah, I used to.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BI got veneers, bro.
Speaker AI didn't know that.
Speaker BOh, yeah.
Speaker AI never look at your mouth like that.
Speaker BI had to get them done twice.
Speaker BOne of them cracked.
Speaker ASeriously, do they shave your tooth down like that?
Speaker AThat save like, ugly, ugly, real tooth?
Speaker BI have.
Speaker BI have that photo if you.
Speaker BIf I ever want to, bro, why.
Speaker AHaven'T I gotten that photo from you?
Speaker BI can't trust you with photos like that.
Speaker AI call that the.
Speaker AThe, like the heroin teeth.
Speaker BYeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker AIt's what it looks like, right?
Speaker AYou got like a drug problem or something?
Speaker BSo it's my first.
Speaker BIt's my front four, and then I got two crowns on the outside because actually, back in the day, the orthodontist said that braces wouldn't help me.
Speaker BThe gaps in between my teeth were too wide.
Speaker BThat.
Speaker AI don't remember you having gaps.
Speaker BNo, you never met me.
Speaker BYou didn't meet me with gaps.
Speaker BI already.
Speaker BThey were already fixed.
Speaker BAge 21.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker ALook at you being all sorts.
Speaker BNo, I was self conscious back.
Speaker BI used to talk with my hand over my mouth like this because I was so self conscious.
Speaker AYou still do that every once in a while, you know that?
Speaker BYeah, I mean, it's a habit I have.
Speaker AI had a birthmark on my forehead.
Speaker AIt was like, almost like one of those, like Hindu, like, dots, but it was kind of on the left.
Speaker AIt was a brown one.
Speaker AA little circle.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ATry having one of those when you're a kid.
Speaker AYeah, not exactly.
Speaker AFine.
Speaker AOn the, you know.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BOn the playgrounds.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BKids are rough, man.
Speaker AAnd there weren't other, like, real Indian kids around, so they just assumed that I Was Indian, Right?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AWhich is also racist at the time.
Speaker ABut that was 1980s racism.
Speaker BTotally acceptable.
Speaker BYeah, 80s and 90s.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AIt's the whole thing.
Speaker AAnyway, as part of our continued commit commitment to expanding our reach and impact, my co host and I have made the decision to remove cussing expletives and inflammatory language from our episodes.
Speaker AMoving forward, we don't want to make it less fun for anybody, but we also want to make sure that it's enjoyable for everyone.
Speaker AAbsolutely right.
Speaker AAnd we also know that there's.
Speaker AThere's kind of a side benefit here.
Speaker AWe talked about for a long period of time that the algorithm doesn't really push things that have a little bit more language in it and you get better ads and better, you know, cost per click and stuff like that on sites like YouTube.
Speaker ASo there's.
Speaker AThere's a value to doing it.
Speaker AOur friends over at Mind Pump.
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Speaker APump.
Speaker BMind Pump.
Speaker AMind Pump often lamented to us that they had more fun on previous shows where they cussed and had a little more wild.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AEarlier shows.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ABut now they're a lot more corporate and structured and they don't cuss themselves, certainly not at the cadence that we do.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker BYeah, this is for.
Speaker BThis is for the greater good.
Speaker AYeah, the greater good.
Speaker BAnd if you really.
Speaker BIf we really wanted to scale this thing down the road and if we're trying to teach something like financial literacy, you would hope even people that are tuning in, listening, that understand it probably better than most, they could at least recommend it to somebody.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASo this change is.
Speaker AIs more about, you know, the podcast than just words.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AIt's about refining our content to reach a broader audience, attracting potential partners, and elevating the overall quality of the show while staying true to the authentic and engaging style that we at least aspire to be.
Speaker ARight, Right.
Speaker AWe are also in the process of determining how the best course of action to removing a legacy content's bad language, because there's some of it there and proceeding with however we can do that, we don't know yet.
Speaker AThere's going to be a couple strategies we're going to run down.
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Speaker AWhen is Apple gonna get video?
Speaker AWhat are you doing?
Speaker AApple?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BWhy, why haven't they.
Speaker AThey kind of, you know, lagged a little bit on the podcast thing.
Speaker BI think so for a long, long time.
Speaker BRemember we looked at our ratios.
Speaker BIt was, it was heavily one sided to Apple podcast.
Speaker BAnd then after they signed Joe Rogan.
Speaker BJoe Rogan.
Speaker BJoe Rogan.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BThen everyone like they people started using Spotify as their podcast app.
Speaker AYeah, me too.
Speaker BYou too?
Speaker AI'm one of them.
Speaker AYeah, it's, you know, I like watching you.
Speaker BYeah, I got.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAll right, that's last housekeeping item.
Speaker AJust to get things clear.
Speaker AWall Street Journal, Fed meeting today.
Speaker AInterest rates unchanged.
Speaker APal speaks on decision.
Speaker AIt was cute.
Speaker ANothing happened.
Speaker AYou didn't miss anything.
Speaker BYou did.
Speaker BHe didn't miss a single thing.
Speaker BHe didn't miss a beat.
Speaker BHe did what he said he was going to do.
Speaker BAnd the FOMC members did what they said they were going to do.
Speaker BWasn't just him.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BBut they really had no leg to stand on.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BBecause inflation has been, has been technically eating back up.
Speaker AIf you look at the headline figure, it's, it's flat.
Speaker BIt's flat.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BBut there's, there's all this talk, there's all this fear of potential tariffs coming in place, that.
Speaker BWhich could ultimately trickle back down to the consumer only causing inflation to spike back up again.
Speaker BAnd the labor market has not been deteriorating.
Speaker BAt least jobs have been steady.
Speaker AGive.
Speaker AGive the Doge group a little time and it'll all change.
Speaker AYeah, yeah, the fdic.
Speaker AI was talking to them a couple of days ago and the day that the email came out where they basically were offered seven months of pay to leave.
Speaker AOh, yeah, that was a weird set of circumstances.
Speaker AAnd to see people who work there and hear, hear how they were feeling that, that, that's got to be weird to get that email.
Speaker AJust be sitting, you know, at work one day, you know, banging away on the keyboard and all of a sudden, hey, you want to leave your job?
Speaker BYeah, we'll offer you seven months.
Speaker AI mean, it's kind of a crazy deal.
Speaker BSeven months.
Speaker BThat's a pretty healthy severance package.
Speaker APeople forget that, that if you're in a federal agency, you've also got pensions behind that.
Speaker BWell, that's what people are working towards.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASo if.
Speaker AIf you're a pensioned employee closer towards retirement, maybe that might, that might be viable for you.
Speaker AIf you're a younger employee, you're like, oh, I got to test the job market.
Speaker AI don't know if I got another job.
Speaker BI mean, that's kind of.
Speaker BThat's actually maybe a healthy conversation to have just briefly before we dive into.
Speaker AThe actual cool thing about the show.
Speaker BQuantum computing.
Speaker BYeah, Supercomputing.
Speaker BSo, I mean, that's got.
Speaker BThat's a decision that people try to make early on in their careers.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BIs do I want to go the corporate route.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BOr I mean, I'm thinking about.
Speaker BI'm thinking of it in the term of.
Speaker BFor bankers.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BOr do I go the regulatory route, you know, and work for, you know, work.
Speaker BWork for the government?
Speaker BWork for X amount of years?
Speaker BWhat is it, 20 years, 25 years?
Speaker AFor the 20.
Speaker BYeah, I mean, about 20 years.
Speaker BAnd then they get their pension.
Speaker BThe draw is what you get for the rest of your life.
Speaker BThe pension is a certain percentage of your highest earned year, or it's a.
Speaker APretty healthy clip on your previous salary.
Speaker AI don't know the actual specifics to it, but there's also a whole cohort of people who go into government, the public sector, and then we'll go into the private sector later on, using that as, like the backbone to their resume.
Speaker ALike, hey, I was a regulatory advisor to, you know, so.
Speaker AAnd so now I'm a regulatory attorney in the private sector.
Speaker AAnd you get paid typically big money with that experience in the background.
Speaker BOh, yeah.
Speaker AThere's a lot of different ways to kind of play that when you're younger.
Speaker AMost younger people who are ambitious don't want to go the regulatory route because they want that big money payout.
Speaker ABut then as you get older, you're like, oh, man, that pension.
Speaker ASo I've been in my current job for like 17 years.
Speaker AA little over that.
Speaker A17 years, eight months, something like that.
Speaker AI often think, oh, man, if I were a federal employee, I'd be pensioned almost.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AYou know.
Speaker AYeah, that's kind of cool.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BBut there's always the fear of.
Speaker BAnd they say that it'll never go away, but isn't.
Speaker BIsn't there an actual fear that it could.
Speaker AI'm sure there is, but luckily that's not a fear we have the fear I do have is about quantum computers.
Speaker BYou have, you do have.
Speaker BBut see, I feel like the Bitcoin bros.
Speaker BGot to be fearful of quantum computing.
Speaker AI would if I.
Speaker AIf I did not have true cold storage and I was using, I don't know, like a password encryption.
Speaker APasswords.
Speaker AYeah, yeah.
Speaker AThe data we're going to give you here is going to make you go, okay, I'm not safe.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AAnd it's going to scare you a little bit.
Speaker BLet's do it.
Speaker ANot intended to scare anybody, but some of the things here, concepts here get a little wild and stay tuned to the end because it gets really bizarre because there's some theories here about how this is actually working.
Speaker ABecause here's the craziest part.
Speaker AI'm going to give you the highlight right up front.
Speaker BYou're so excited.
Speaker AI'm so excited.
Speaker AI'm gassed up, bro.
Speaker AI'm ready to go.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASay less.
Speaker AAnd there's a whole ton here.
Speaker AI don't know if you saw the show notes.
Speaker BYeah, I did.
Speaker AIt's obscenely long.
Speaker AYeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker ASo we might go in extra innings tonight.
Speaker AI apologize.
Speaker AThe right out the gate.
Speaker AWe do not fully understand how these computers we have built work.
Speaker AWe're using them, but we don't fully get it.
Speaker BSo what are we currently using them for?
Speaker AWell, nothing of true value yet, but there's some phases we need to talk about as it relates to the levels of quantum computing and some milestones that we've reached.
Speaker AAnd I thought when we reached quantum supremacy.
Speaker BMm.
Speaker AAnd I'll explain what that is in here in a little bit, that it was gonna be huge news because it was a big deal.
Speaker ALike, that was one of those theoretical things that became true overnight.
Speaker AAnd everyone was like, right.
Speaker AI mean, it just sounds badass.
Speaker AQuantum supremacy.
Speaker BYeah, that's it.
Speaker BYou reached a pinnacle, Right?
Speaker AYou know, it sounds cool.
Speaker AWell, all right, so let's get into some.
Speaker ASome.
Speaker AIt's gonna be a little reading for me in the beginning, but this is just to set up the framework for a really good conversation.
Speaker AGot it.
Speaker ASo bear with me.
Speaker BGot it.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker AA quantum computer is a computer that exploits quantum mechanical phenomenon compared to a classical computer, which is binary based on ones and zeros.
Speaker AA classical computer would take thousands of years to solve problems that a quantum computer can solve in minutes.
Speaker BIt's like, I feel like my brain can't even begin to think about a question that would take years and years and years to solve.
Speaker ASo a great example of this is like, military grade encryption if you put a binary ones and zeros normalized computer on that, it could take thousands of years for a really well encrypted, particularly government level security clearance encryption.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AFor a quantum computer, just minutes.
Speaker BMinutes, yeah.
Speaker BCracked it.
Speaker AMinutes.
Speaker ADone.
Speaker ARight, yeah.
Speaker ASo on a small scale, physical matter exhibits properties of both particles and waves.
Speaker AAnd quantum computer computers leverage this behavior using specialized hardware.
Speaker ADon't worry about it, I'll explain it.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker ASo classical physics cannot explain the operation of these devices.
Speaker AThese quantum devices and a scalable quantum computer could perform some calculations exponentially faster than any modern classical computer.
Speaker ATheoretically, a large scale quantum computer could break some widely used encryption schemes and aid physicists in performing physical simulations.
Speaker AHowever, the current state of the art is largely experimental and impractical with several obstacles to useful application.
Speaker ASpoiler alert.
Speaker AThese things have to operate in hyper cold climates which take a ton of energy.
Speaker AThe newest science in quantum computing is trying to create qubits, which I'll explain in a minute, that operate at room temperature.
Speaker AOnce you do that, the wheels are coming off this bad boy.
Speaker AIt's, it's.
Speaker AThat is tantamount to AGI in the AI world.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AArtificial general intelligence, where basically you're talking to a machine that can talk back to you and doesn't need you.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo then here's my initial question for you.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BWho has access to this?
Speaker AOh, man.
Speaker AThere are three main players in the game right now that are substantial, one of which is China.
Speaker AThere is Google, there's NASA.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AGoogle and NASA actually partnered on their projects.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AThey've actually named their computers and we'll talk about the three versions that are out there.
Speaker AAnd they've obviously gotten increasingly more complex.
Speaker ABut China's is interesting because they don't have the same rules that we do.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AThey're kind of unhinged, but they've got some interesting things going on there where we can talk about some of the nuances of their particular quantum computer and what makes it special.
Speaker AWe'll get there later.
Speaker ASo the basic unit of information in quantum computing is the qubit, or a quantum bit.
Speaker AIt serves the same function as the bit in a classical computer.
Speaker AAnd a bit really is just a 1 or 0.
Speaker AThat's a bit.
Speaker AWe've all seen it.
Speaker ADos prompt, little flashing icon, 1, 0.
Speaker BThat's a bit.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AHowever, unlike a classical bit, which can be in one of two states, a binary state of a 1 and a 0, a qubit can exist in a superposition of its two states, state bases, states.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AA state that Is I'll explain this very simply, by the way.
Speaker AA state that is abstract sense between two states at any given time.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AWhen measuring a cubit, the the result of a probabilistic output of a classical bit, a quantum computer manipulates the qubit in a particular way.
Speaker AWave interference affects and can amplify in desired measurement and results.
Speaker ASo here's what I'm saying to you.
Speaker AA normal computer is binary ones and zeros.
Speaker BYep.
Speaker ABut a qubit based computer, a quantum computer can be a one, it can be a zero, or it can be both.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AThat fluidity, right?
Speaker ASo think of two or three qubits in a row, right?
Speaker AThat fluidity.
Speaker AIf they wave, right, they're waving up and down from 1 to 0 to neutral.
Speaker AThey're constantly in this fluid state, this, this wave state, right.
Speaker AAnd because of that, they're not going, is the password 1001001?
Speaker AThey're going all the password checks all at the same time.
Speaker BYeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker AAnd because of this fluidity, it's really interesting.
Speaker AAnd what they found with the qubit is there's no proximity required.
Speaker ASo you can have a qubit on one side of the room, you have a qubit in this side of the room, and they still react with one another, no matter how far apart they are.
Speaker AThis part of the conversation will get really interesting when you start talking about the question of are we actually doing something based in a computer or are we tapping into a parallel dimension?
Speaker ANerd alert right here.
Speaker BSo my initial question to you on who has access to this?
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYou said Google and NASA.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BFrom the outside looking in, right there, you think, okay, trusted source.
Speaker BWe already trust them already with NASA.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AI don't know if we ever went to the moon, bro.
Speaker AThere's some challenges there.
Speaker ADid you know that?
Speaker BWe're not doing this.
Speaker BNo, we're not doing this.
Speaker BWe're not doing conspiracy theory hour at the top of the show, bro.
Speaker BWe don't want to lose anybody.
Speaker BI know you landing be.
Speaker AIt's not real.
Speaker BMy favorite was like, who was recording him coming out.
Speaker BYeah, that's the best.
Speaker AI'm just saying, to this day, no scientist can explain how you can get past our radiation belts which govern.
Speaker AWhich pretty much cover the.
Speaker AThe entire world.
Speaker AYeah, yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker AYou can't explain to me how you can get past those and live.
Speaker AYeah, but somehow we found the narrowest way through over Antarctica.
Speaker AAt the time that the moon mission went to the moon.
Speaker AWe've only done it.
Speaker AI mean, we haven't done it in like decades.
Speaker AYeah, right.
Speaker AWe never really seen it.
Speaker AWith today's technology, you get a pretty convincing image.
Speaker AYou know what I mean?
Speaker BSo my, my biasness towards NASA is.
Speaker BListen, we can say, we can say we're YouTubers now.
Speaker AI feel like we can, we can.
Speaker AWe are on YouTube right now.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BOne of my kids favorite YouTubers is this guy named Mark Rober.
Speaker BHave you heard of him?
Speaker ANo.
Speaker BYou, you, I think you may have seen his stuff before.
Speaker BYou got to get Carter on this.
Speaker BOkay?
Speaker BHe's.
Speaker AI don't want to do that.
Speaker BNo, no, no, he's, he's.
Speaker BFirst of all, he's clean.
Speaker BSuper clean.
Speaker ALike our show today, like, it's awkward.
Speaker BFor everybody, you know, super clean.
Speaker BAnd he's an, he's an engineer from NASA.
Speaker BWorked in NASA for 10.
Speaker BNow he's a full time YouTuber and he does stuff for kids videos.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AWhat's wrong with the world when a, when a NASA employee makes more money and is happier being on YouTube?
Speaker BHe makes great stuff.
Speaker BAnd so he does these monthly subscriptions for kids and you can build the toys and it's all, it's teaching them physics and science and he makes, he makes science cool, right?
Speaker BSo my kids are fully, fully bought in.
Speaker BHe did that thing.
Speaker BYou've definitely saw this going around where he created a glitter bomb for thieves that were stealing packages.
Speaker BThat was him that created that.
Speaker BDid you hear about that?
Speaker AGlitter bombs are not top of my feet.
Speaker BNo, no, no.
Speaker BThis one, this thing went viral.
Speaker AI saw, I've seen it.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BSo, yeah, so that's him.
Speaker BAnyways, that, that's where my biases comes from.
Speaker BBut the fear for me.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BIs.
Speaker BOkay, you say China has access to it.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BMy.
Speaker BWhere my thought process was going is can at some point can this become something that individuals, people.
Speaker AOr maybe not in its current structure.
Speaker BPrivate, private organizations can.
Speaker BCan have.
Speaker APrivate organizations do.
Speaker AI mean, Google is effectively a private organization.
Speaker AI mean, they're not government backed.
Speaker BRight, Right.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AIf you're talking about like private isn't like quiet.
Speaker ANo one's ever going to hear from you.
Speaker ALike, small.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AWe're away.
Speaker AAway from that because you, I mean, you need like a nuclear power plant to power some of these.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BAnd then you think about, okay, so you're saying a country like China has it.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BWhat does that mean?
Speaker BWhat kind of impact could that have on potential warfare?
Speaker BLike, I feel like what we think of war from back in the day is no longer the case.
Speaker AWell, look what happened on The east coast recently with all the, quote, drones the size of a car staying in the air for like, 15 hours.
Speaker AWe don't know where these are coming from.
Speaker AThat feels a little weird to me, just saying, like, I.
Speaker AI'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I've never seen a flying car for 15 hours just hovering above my house.
Speaker ALike, that would be weird.
Speaker BThat is weird.
Speaker AYou know, like, so I feel like there's a whole lot technologically that we're just not getting information on.
Speaker AThis is one of those things where I feel.
Speaker AI feel pretty comfortable saying that this is where we're at.
Speaker AThere's not a whole lot more than this.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker ABut when this gets weaponized, it changes the game, brother.
Speaker ACombine this with AI and we're pretty much extinct.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASo quantum computers are not yet practical for real work.
Speaker ASo what we're talking about today is largely theoretical.
Speaker ABut I'll explain to you how we achieve quantum supremacy and how we hit these milestones and how they did it.
Speaker AThey basically did it with cracking a code.
Speaker AOkay, Right.
Speaker ASo physically, engineering high quality qubits has proved to be challenging.
Speaker AIf a physical qubit is not sufficiently isolated from its environment, it suffers from quantum decoherence, introducing noise into calculations and noise errors.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ASo national governments have invested heavily in experimental research that aims to develop scalable qubits with longer coherent times and lower error rates.
Speaker AAn example implementation includes superconductors, which isolate an electrical current by eliminating electrical resistance and ion traps and a bunch of other weird stuff for magnetic field purposes.
Speaker AAnd this is the end of the narrative here briefly, so bear with me.
Speaker AWe're almost done with the nasty setup.
Speaker AOkay?
Speaker AIn principle, a classic computer can solve the same computational problems as a quantum computer, given enough time.
Speaker AQuantum advantage comes in the form of time complexity rather than computability.
Speaker AAnd quantum complexity theory shows that some quantum algorithms are exponentially more efficient than the best known classical algorithms.
Speaker AA large scale quantum computer could, in theory, solve computational problems unsolvable by a classical computer in any reasonable amount of time.
Speaker AThis concept of extra ability has.
Speaker AHas been called quantum supremacy, which we have achieved.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AWhile such claims have drawn significant attention to the discipline, near term practical use cases remain limited.
Speaker AAll right, so now we get into the meat.
Speaker AWe're going to break all this down and make it seem not so scary and daunting.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BI'm thinking about, can you, can you really train this thing?
Speaker ANot yet.
Speaker ANot yet.
Speaker AThere's.
Speaker AThere's too much error built in, and it's too fragile of a system.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker ABut it does work.
Speaker ASo I can guarantee you some government somewhere is using this to crack codes right now.
Speaker BHas to be.
Speaker AHas to be.
Speaker AAll right, so superstition, the power of being in multiple states at once.
Speaker AIn your case, imagine being fat and skinny at the same time.
Speaker BAt the same time.
Speaker AIt's also known as skinny fat.
Speaker ASo what is superstition still PG13?
Speaker AI didn't use an expletive when I insulted you.
Speaker BThat's.
Speaker BThat's acceptable.
Speaker AI insulted you in a classy way.
Speaker BYeah, the 90s way.
Speaker AYeah, we're still here.
Speaker BYeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker AIn classical computing, a bit can Only be the 0 and the 1 we talked about, right?
Speaker ASo in quantum computing, a qubit or a quantum bit can be 0, 1, or both at the same time.
Speaker AThat is called superposition.
Speaker ASuperposition.
Speaker BSuper.
Speaker AYeah, it's a really.
Speaker AIt's tongue tangling.
Speaker AYeah, yeah.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker AThis allows quantum computers to perform multiple calculations simultaneously instead of sequentially.
Speaker ASo they don't have to go, you know, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 2.
Speaker AThey can be 1, 1, 1, 2 to 2 all the same time.
Speaker BYeah, exactly.
Speaker BTrying them all at the same time is crazy.
Speaker AWhich is kind of wild when you think about it, because then if this can literally, you know, break.
Speaker AAnd this already today, can break military grade encryption today in minutes.
Speaker AThat's the thing.
Speaker AYou can't tell me that NASA has this.
Speaker AAnd I'm like, let's see what China's got going on over there.
Speaker BLet's hack their systems 100%.
Speaker AYou're not gonna.
Speaker AYou're not gonna encrypt out.
Speaker AI mean, unless you got, like, biometric indicators.
Speaker AI mean, this is why when you have like crypto, you need cold storage, bro.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AIn cold storage, I mean, you have like a device.
Speaker BThat's the whole thing.
Speaker BThat's their.
Speaker BThat's.
Speaker BThat's what they're.
Speaker BThe whole thing is based off of, is the encryption.
Speaker BYeah, right.
Speaker BThe blockchain.
Speaker AThe blockchain.
Speaker ABut you need to have your device with your codes encrypted in a separate, like, usb, not connected to the Internet.
Speaker ABecause if it is connected to the Internet and someone can access it and they have a quantum computer, say goodbye to your encryption protections.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AIn minutes.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYour bitcoin is now mine.
Speaker AYeah, done.
Speaker AYeah, done.
Speaker ASo how does this all work?
Speaker AImagine flipping a coin or a light switch.
Speaker AI had to come up with some simple examples for you.
Speaker ASimple Jack.
Speaker BHey, I am a very simple person.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAll right, so a classical bit is like a coin.
Speaker AYou flip it, heads, zero, tails, one, okay.
Speaker AOne defined state at all times.
Speaker AYou're going to get heads or you're going to get tails.
Speaker AThat's it.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AOr think of a light switch.
Speaker AIt's either on or off.
Speaker AUp or down.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AIf it was my light switch, it always be up.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker ANever down.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BGot it.
Speaker AThere is no in between.
Speaker BGot it.
Speaker AUnless you get one of those messed up light switches where you can put it in between, the lights kind of flicker a little bit and you're like, you know, you're gonna get shocked.
Speaker BI used to do that as a kid.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AIt happens anywhere.
Speaker AEverybody has, like, those toggle switches.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI remember, like back in the day, the switch is just so much more satisfying.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AThe sound, the pound.
Speaker BYeah, yeah.
Speaker BFlick it up with a finger.
Speaker AYou actually flick the light switch.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ANow you gotta slap it.
Speaker AYeah, slap it.
Speaker BYeah, Yeah.
Speaker AA cubit is in.
Speaker ASuperposition is like a spinning coin.
Speaker AIt exists at both heads and tails at the same time until you measure it.
Speaker AOr imagine a dimmer switch.
Speaker AInstead of a simple on or off switch.
Speaker AThe light can be any brightness level between fully on or fully off at any given time.
Speaker ASee, I made it all simple.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AEverybody got that.
Speaker BIt's hard to.
Speaker BIt's hard to, like, envision it because you.
Speaker BYou don't use.
Speaker BYou know, light is being on and light is being off.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ABut if you have a dimmer switch, like I have one of those at the house, little shuttle goes up and down on the side of the light switch.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker ASo you can shuttle it all the way down, all the way up, and it'll change the intensity of the light.
Speaker ARight, Right.
Speaker ASo effectively, imagine that going up and down at all times.
Speaker AThat's effectively your qubit state.
Speaker AAnd until you go, okay, what's light at right now?
Speaker BAt a much extremely fast cadence.
Speaker ARight, Right.
Speaker ASo you could.
Speaker AIt's like jiggling a key to get into a lock.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AIt's constantly jiggling up and down so you can get it in the lock.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker ATerrible reference.
Speaker AThat's probably.
Speaker AI probably should use the other two.
Speaker BBrain has been working overtime on this episode.
Speaker AIs it really?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI geek on this stuff.
Speaker AHard.
Speaker AThis is a financial literacy podcast.
Speaker AWhat the shit's going on?
Speaker AWe're going to get there.
Speaker BYeah, it's getting there.
Speaker AOoh, I just cast.
Speaker AThat doesn't count.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker BCome on.
Speaker AI mean, we're still in the entry phase.
Speaker AIn 27 minutes.
Speaker BTimestamp it.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker ASo the power of superstition means that a quantum computer within qubits can represent 2 to the n state at once.
Speaker AI'm going to do the math for you because we all know we don't do math well on the show.
Speaker AIt's a financial literacy podcast.
Speaker BBut why do you use calculators?
Speaker AYes, I know, right?
Speaker AAn example, a three cubit system can represent two to the third power, which equals about eight states at the same time, right?
Speaker ASo eight states simultaneously, it can be 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 1, 0, 1, 0, 01 1, 1, 0, 01, 0, 011 1, 0, 1, 1, 1.
Speaker AAll the possibilities, all that at the same time.
Speaker AIt's all those numbers at any given time.
Speaker ABut compare that to a classical three bit system which can only have one of those states at a time.
Speaker ASo a three bit system would be.
Speaker A0, 0, 0.
Speaker BGot it.
Speaker AThis one is eight options all at once, right?
Speaker AAnd you can see how this can roll out.
Speaker ASo what is.
Speaker AWhy does superposition matter?
Speaker AIt's an exponentially increasing computing power.
Speaker AThink of this as compound interest, right?
Speaker AOkay, so a quantum computer with 50 qubits in superposition can perform calculations on one quadrillion possible states at once.
Speaker ATwo to the 50th power, right?
Speaker ASo that's 50 cubits can do one quadrillion.
Speaker AThat.
Speaker AThat's more numbers than I'm ever going to be able to count my entire lifetime.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker AAll those possibilities at once as like you turn it on, you point in the direction whammy.
Speaker AAll those possibilities all at the same time.
Speaker BOkay, so I need.
Speaker BBut this is what I need to know, okay?
Speaker BI need to know what good could.
Speaker AThis be used for besides cracking passwords?
Speaker BYeah, lots, brother.
Speaker AYeah, lots.
Speaker AWell, that's actually next on the list, which is kind of a segue from you, but you didn't know it was next to the list.
Speaker BI did, though.
Speaker BI read the whole show.
Speaker BI read the show notes dirty.
Speaker AAll right, so this is what gives quantum computers potential to solve problems that would take classical computers 30 thousands of years.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AGoogle's Sycamore quantum computer used superposition to complete a calculation in 200 seconds that would take the world's fastest supercomputer 10,000 years.
Speaker ABruh.
Speaker AYeah, the world's fastest supercomputer.
Speaker BSo are they going to be able to use this to be able to cure cancer?
Speaker BThat's my question.
Speaker APresumptively.
Speaker BYes, that's.
Speaker BThat's what I want to know.
Speaker AYou could have just said that.
Speaker BYeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker AYou can cure cancer site.
Speaker AHere you go.
Speaker AYeah, yeah.
Speaker BHow do we cure cancer?
Speaker AIt's gonna make all the work that we're doing now with computers look incredibly rudimentary.
Speaker ALike, you know when we had the Atari back?
Speaker ANo, better than the Atari.
Speaker AYou ever see that original video game where you slide the stick up and down on the sides and it goes bing, bing.
Speaker AIt looks like a tennis court, but digital.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BI went to the National Museum of Video Games when I was.
Speaker BYeah, I was in Frisco.
Speaker AYeah, yeah.
Speaker BThey had.
Speaker BAll right.
Speaker BAnd I thought my kids were going to be so excited.
Speaker BThey weren't phased.
Speaker BThey didn't get it at all.
Speaker BBut for me, it was.
Speaker BI was in heaven.
Speaker AYeah, it's like pages for us.
Speaker AThey're like, wait, wait, wait.
Speaker AThis, like, comic book looking Image doesn't have 3D and you can't go, like, different.
Speaker BI give my.
Speaker BI give my son credit.
Speaker BHe was trying hard to appreciate it.
Speaker BHe went sat down.
Speaker BHe was playing all the games.
Speaker BHe just kind of looked at me like.
Speaker AYou play kung fu on the original Nintendo?
Speaker BNo.
Speaker AOh, my God.
Speaker BDid they have the original game Boys there?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ABlack and white.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AInk dyed.
Speaker BThey had the one with the little camera on top, too.
Speaker AOh, yeah, those came out years later, though.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AYeah, those are a big time hit.
Speaker ABut the picture is so pixelated, you can't even tell it's you.
Speaker BYeah, they had Game Genie.
Speaker AOh, yeah.
Speaker APower Glove.
Speaker AThe Nintendo Power Glove.
Speaker BThey had it there.
Speaker BIt was behind.
Speaker BBehind a case.
Speaker BIt was amazing.
Speaker BAnd everything.
Speaker ACan put your hand in it and feel around.
Speaker BNo, because you know how gross that would be.
Speaker AWhat do you mean?
Speaker BYeah, everyone put their hand in there being kind of nasty.
Speaker AI didn't say it was a community Power Glove.
Speaker BI mean, do you even.
Speaker BHow many.
Speaker BDo you still shake people's hands?
Speaker AOh, yeah.
Speaker BSo, you know, you don't do.
Speaker BIf you don't do a fist bump thing, like, hey, put it there, dude.
Speaker ANo, I feel like you can't be a professional do that.
Speaker BNo, no.
Speaker BIn the professional setting for.
Speaker BObviously.
Speaker BYeah, yeah, you got to shake hands in the professional setting.
Speaker BBut I mean, you're not going around shaking people's hands.
Speaker BAt the gym.
Speaker AYeah, I do.
Speaker BNo, you don't.
Speaker BAt the gym.
Speaker AWell, I rarely.
Speaker AI have headphones on.
Speaker AI got a hat on.
Speaker AI'm looking down.
Speaker AI don't want to be your friend at the gym.
Speaker ABut if you come to me in a business sense and you're like, hey, man, blah, blah, blah, you know, hey, how are you?
Speaker AI love quantum computers.
Speaker AI shake your hand.
Speaker AThat's what I do.
Speaker BI love quantum computers.
Speaker AI mean, yeah, that's going to happen.
Speaker ASomeone who hears this is going to be like, hey, bro, quantum computing.
Speaker AMe.
Speaker AYou guy.
Speaker BYeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker AIt's going to be a thing.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker ASo, financial modeling.
Speaker AInstead of simulating a single market condition, quantum computers can analyze all possible financial scenarios at once.
Speaker AAll.
Speaker BEverything that could go wrong.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BPlay the stock market.
Speaker BI got it.
Speaker AJust.
Speaker AJust tell me what's going to happen in all scenarios.
Speaker AI am all.
Speaker BImagine trying to argue with it.
Speaker BThat's it.
Speaker AThese are all the possibilities.
Speaker ANo, no, seriously, how many?
Speaker ANo, these are all of them.
Speaker AAll.
Speaker AAll.
Speaker AThere's no other ones?
Speaker ANope.
Speaker AThese are it.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AThat's crazy.
Speaker BBut, I mean, I.
Speaker BI can tell you that, too.
Speaker BBy the end of the year, the stock market go up 20%.
Speaker B19%, 18%.
Speaker APlease refer to, say from now on as all.
Speaker AYou'll be referred to as all.
Speaker AOnly all.
Speaker AI am all.
Speaker AYeah, all is going to be quiet now so I can read.
Speaker BLet's go.
Speaker ADrug discovery.
Speaker AInstead of testing one molecular interaction at a time, quantum computers can simultaneously simulate all possible molecular combination combinations at once.
Speaker AAll.
Speaker BAll.
Speaker ACan you imagine that?
Speaker AThese scientists sitting in labs right now, testing one particular molecular challenge at a time.
Speaker AYou're just going through, am I closer to curing cancer now?
Speaker AAm I closer?
Speaker AThis will be like, okay, we tried all of them.
Speaker AThis one cures cancer, like, in seconds.
Speaker BIn seconds?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AYou're not talking, like, years.
Speaker AYou're talking, like, seconds.
Speaker BIt's crazy.
Speaker ASo, entanglement, the mysterious quantum link.
Speaker AOoh.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BThey're gonna make this into a movie.
Speaker AYou make a sound.
Speaker AOoh, There you go.
Speaker AI can't believe you made a sound.
Speaker AEntanglement is a deep connection between cubits, no matter how far apart they are.
Speaker ALike, Saeed and I, we're always connected.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASo when two qubits become entangled, their states are interdependent, meaning if you measure one, you instantly know the state of the other one.
Speaker AThis happens instantly, even if the qubits are on opposite sides of the universe.
Speaker AThis is why Einstein.
Speaker AEinstein called it a spooky action at a distance.
Speaker BIf Einstein's calling it spooky, then you know it's.
Speaker AWhat's crazy to me is Einstein back then was talking about quantum entanglement like he knew what it was.
Speaker BYeah, exactly.
Speaker AOne day, we will have a computer who does this, and when we do, it is going to be kind of spooky.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AIt's just weird.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AMy best Austrian accent.
Speaker ASorry, that's all I got.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker ASo imagine you and a friend each have a pair of entangled dice, because I got to come up with these basic examples for you.
Speaker BThere you go.
Speaker BGive it to me.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AIf you roll yours and it lands on a three, my die instantly adjusts to match your three, even if I'm in a different country.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker BInsane.
Speaker AThat's weird.
Speaker BIt is weird.
Speaker ASpooky.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AThe connection is immediate.
Speaker AThere's no delay, no transmission of information.
Speaker AIt just is.
Speaker AAll just is.
Speaker BJust is.
Speaker AI'm making you the Zoolander 2 character.
Speaker BThat's what you are.
Speaker BThat's what you're doing.
Speaker AIn quantum computing, entangled qubits share information instantly.
Speaker AThis allows quantum computers to process and transfer information far more efficiently than classical computers.
Speaker ASo I'm going to give you a visual metaphor, okay?
Speaker ABecause again, light switches, flipping coins, dimmers, dies, dimmers.
Speaker AWhat do you think's next?
Speaker ATwins.
Speaker ABrother.
Speaker BTwins.
Speaker ATwins had to do it.
Speaker AAnd not.
Speaker ADanny DeVito.
Speaker AArnold Schwarzenegger, which would be apropos for you and I.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BI'll take that.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYou're beyond right.
Speaker BCly.
Speaker BBecause he has.
Speaker BHe has Danny.
Speaker BDavid has a better acting career.
Speaker AIt's because you get more hair.
Speaker AAll right, Imagine you have a pair of identical twins who always dress the same, despite popular belief.
Speaker AThat's not you and I.
Speaker AOne twin moves to New York and the other moves to Tokyo.
Speaker AThe moment the twin in New York decides to put on a red shirt, the twin in Tokyo instantly puts on a red shirt, too, even though they never communicated about it.
Speaker BOh, yeah, right.
Speaker AThat's how entanglement works.
Speaker AChange.
Speaker AOne entangled qubit and its twin changes instantly, no matter how far apart they are in the world or.
Speaker ACome on, universe.
Speaker AThe parallel dimension, baby.
Speaker BOh, we're there.
Speaker AWe're tapping in.
Speaker BThat's it.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AThis is how Thanos got here.
Speaker BOh, wow.
Speaker AYou have no idea what I'm talking about.
Speaker BI know exactly how he got here, bro.
Speaker BThat.
Speaker BNo, but what I was thinking is that's where we get the deja vu.
Speaker ACould be.
Speaker ASo we're entering now the part of quantum computing where people don't understand how this works, but we're still doing it anyway, because that's what we do.
Speaker AWe do stuff until we figure it out.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AHumans.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AWe're like, you know what?
Speaker AThis could be tapping into a parallel dimension.
Speaker AYou could get, like, some weird alien coming through.
Speaker AWe don't know.
Speaker ABut we're going to keep doing it until we do know.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AGot to mind the tenacity.
Speaker BAnd we're.
Speaker BWe're going to solve this and just create another parallel dimension.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AOr we're just going to have a nuclear reaction, kill everybody.
Speaker AGod forbid, you know?
Speaker BGod forbid.
Speaker ASo why does entanglement matter?
Speaker AIt enables quantum teleportation, the ability to transmit quantum states without physically moving particles.
Speaker ANow, if you're, I don't know, a fan of Star Trek.
Speaker BOkay, no, I was not.
Speaker AOkay, so you're a terrible human being.
Speaker BStar Trek?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BCome on, Gene Roddenberry, Is it true?
Speaker BLike back in the day, was it, was it ever like Star wars vs Star Trek?
Speaker BWas that a.
Speaker AThat was the thing?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYou were either Trekkie or you were into Star Wars.
Speaker BWhat about if you were not into either?
Speaker AYou were antisocial.
Speaker BNo, because now I'm.
Speaker BNow it's like Harry Potter versus Star wars and I'm Harry Potter all the way.
Speaker AI don't think that's, that's inappropriate.
Speaker AThey're not both space Odysseys, you know.
Speaker BOh, but that's the, that's, that's not a thing.
Speaker BThat's a.
Speaker BIt's a real thing.
Speaker ANo, it's not.
Speaker AYou're not gonna be like, I love Harry.
Speaker ANo, Darth Vader.
Speaker AI mean, it's not, it's not.
Speaker AThat's, that's not.
Speaker AOkay, no, it's Hagrid and Doth.
Speaker AIt's not a thing.
Speaker BSo start some of your Star Trek, man.
Speaker AClearly, it speeds up quantum computations.
Speaker AClassical computers have to exchange information bit by bit, but entangled qubits can instantly in instantaneously interact.
Speaker AThere's a lot of INC words here.
Speaker ASo it enhances quantum cryptography.
Speaker ASince entanglement is impossible to intercept without breaking the link, it's being used for unbreakable encryption.
Speaker ASo the future encryption will come from this, a fluid state of encryption where your password is constantly changing.
Speaker ABecause your password is in qubits, not in traditional binary ones and zeros, no more.
Speaker BThe only way to access it would have to be something that is unique to you.
Speaker BSo like your fingerprint or facial recognition, that kind of thing.
Speaker AWell, first of all, you would encrypt it in such a way that no one could break it.
Speaker AThen you would have to have your access codes, probably biologically, to your point.
Speaker AOr maybe you have a qubit based system which enables you to access it.
Speaker AI have no idea how that's going to work effectively.
Speaker AYou could have an unbreakable encryption.
Speaker ANow here's instantly, I'm like, can you imagine the poor crypto bro who like, lost his password?
Speaker AAnd you have an unbreakable There was that guy that had, like, like two attempts left.
Speaker BTwo attempts left.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI wonder if he's still sitting on those two attempts.
Speaker AYou don't.
Speaker AYou don't try that.
Speaker AYou just.
Speaker AYou just give up at that point.
Speaker BNo, you gotta wait.
Speaker BYou wait out quantum computing.
Speaker AYeah, yeah.
Speaker AYou gotta wait it out at this point.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd then hope it's still worth money by then.
Speaker ACan you imagine?
Speaker AIt's like it's going downhill on the price, and you're like, just watching your price of your unattainable Bitcoin going down.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASupercharged AI.
Speaker AYeah, baby.
Speaker AThe meat of this burrito entanglement enables AI algorithms to process massive data sets exponentially faster than classical systems.
Speaker ARight now, we are using AI in the capacity of it being in a digital world, living like a digital girl.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AAnd it's already getting smarter than us.
Speaker AWe already have AGI on the horizon this year, possibly next year at the latest.
Speaker AThere's a lot of argument, debate about, you know, when and how that could be.
Speaker ABut what if AI was not only smarter than you and had access to more information than you, it was also incredibly faster than anything humanly possible?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AThere's an argument that you're kind of already there.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ABut this would propel the possibility of what AI can do in a way that we just can't fathom.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BPut them together as a tag team.
Speaker BThat's just an unbeatable duo.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker AThe hierarchy, baby.
Speaker AI got to power through this.
Speaker AWe got a lot.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker ABecause I want to get to the end where we talk about, you know, parallel dimensions and teleporting.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BBecause I can tell you put a lot of thought into this.
Speaker AI did.
Speaker AAnd by a lot of thought, I mean I read it once.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAll right, so quantum utility, the stage where quantum computers start offering practical benefits for real world applications, even if they aren't outperforming classical computers in everyday, normal tasks.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AExample, IBM claims its quantum systems have reached utility in solving chemistry and material science problems.
Speaker AOkay, that already happened.
Speaker AWe've reached the point of quantum utility.
Speaker AAnd for years there was this inflection point where everyone's like, oh, my God, when we reach quantum supremacy.
Speaker AOh, man, it's a game changer, bro.
Speaker AAnd we reached it.
Speaker AAnd no one said a word.
Speaker AWhen do you think this happened?
Speaker ADo you know?
Speaker ADo you even recall?
Speaker AYou call, like a news story.
Speaker BI want to say five years ago.
Speaker AOkay, well, good guess.
Speaker AThe moment when a quantum computer performs a task that no classical computer could achieve.
Speaker AAchieve in A feasible time frame.
Speaker AYou now have a quantum supremacy event.
Speaker AThis happened in 2019.
Speaker AGoogle's Sycamore Quantum Processing Achieve computer achieved quantum supremacy, solving a problem in 200 seconds that would take the world's fastest supercomputers 10,000 years.
Speaker ASo they did it right?
Speaker ANow, this wasn't like the world's most complicated problem.
Speaker AIt was like, you know, guess the password.
Speaker ABut the same problem, if attempted on Summit.
Speaker AThe most powerful classical supercomputer at the time would have approximately taken 10,000 years to solve.
Speaker ASo it wasn't just like, oh, hey, your.
Speaker AYour.
Speaker AYour MacBook at home could solve this in 10,000 years.
Speaker ANo.
Speaker AThe world's most powerful supercomputer, which, by the way, size of a football field, could solve this in 10,000 years.
Speaker AYeah, this solved it in 200 minutes.
Speaker ACan you imagine being the guy.
Speaker A200 seconds.
Speaker ACan you imagine being the guy who built the supercomputer?
Speaker BYeah, he's like kite vessels, Damn it.
Speaker AYeah, that's a cussing.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYou just think you did it.
Speaker B1, 11 timestamp it.
Speaker BMan, I thought I was gonna make it through the whole episode.
Speaker AIt's learning curve.
Speaker BYeah, it's learning.
Speaker BWe're trying.
Speaker AWe're trying to get there.
Speaker BAll right.
Speaker AThis meant that sycamore prefer performed 1.5 trillion times faster than the best classical machine on this specific problem.
Speaker ANow there is one more state quantum advantage which we have yet to reach.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BFeel like this is the FOMC and them creating, coining all these different phrases, the Goldilocks scenario, the soft landing, the hard land, all these.
Speaker BThey're just adding a new scenario every time.
Speaker AAre you doing a little trump inflection there on purpose?
Speaker ALittle trump lippy?
Speaker ANo, I wouldn't do that scenario.
Speaker BNo, no, no, you were doing that.
Speaker AYou're doing it.
Speaker BGot to respect the helm, bro.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AWhen quantum computing starts consistently outperforming classical systems in commercially viable tasks, we are not here yet.
Speaker AStill theoretical, but rapidly approaching reality as error rates are declining and hardware has been improving.
Speaker AIBM challenged Google's claim from the 2019 Sycamore experiment, arguing that the problem could be solved in 2.5 days on a classical computer rather than 10,000 years.
Speaker ABut that doesn't matter.
Speaker AEven if it can be solved in 2.5 days versus 10,000 years, this alleged problem, you still have a quantum supremacy event because it solved it much faster than the supercomputer could.
Speaker ASo it's irrelevant.
Speaker AThey're just arguing that the gap between the two's processing ability isn't as Big, as they said.
Speaker ABut there was never really a solution there because everybody agreed you still attained quantum supremacy.
Speaker AThe debate highlighted that quantum supremacy was demonstrated.
Speaker AWe are still far from achieving the quantum advantage, where quantum computers can consistently outperform these classical ones in practical tasks, because this is only breaking a simple code.
Speaker ASo now we're going to talk about Google and NASA's partnership.
Speaker AWe're going to talk about IBM and why they're.
Speaker AThey have a voice in this.
Speaker AIn this conversation.
Speaker AWe're going to talk about China's quantum leap.
Speaker AAnd I cannot say the supercomputer name, so just be prepared.
Speaker APrepared.
Speaker AIf you're Chinese, Mandarin, Cantonese, I don't.
Speaker AI don't care what language you speak, I'm going to butcher this pretty badly.
Speaker BYou're going to actually give it an attempt, huh?
Speaker AOh, yeah, I'm going to.
Speaker AI'm going to.
Speaker AI'm going to.
Speaker AI'm going to give.
Speaker AI've practiced like four times.
Speaker ALike, I'm ready.
Speaker BYou're ready?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AIt's going to sound like an expletive, by the way, but not an expletive.
Speaker BBut it's not.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAll right, so Google's AI Quantum Lab at NASA's Ames Research center is home to this sycamore processor we've been talking about.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker ANASA's interest is in simulating complex space missions and optimizing spacecraft trajectories and cracking next gen material science.
Speaker AAllegedly.
Speaker BAllegedly.
Speaker ASeems like a pretty PC reason for you to be interested, right?
Speaker BOkay, this is.
Speaker BThis is NASA saying this.
Speaker BYeah, they're just.
Speaker BThey're just jealous of all the advancement that Elon's been able to do.
Speaker AFirst of all, can I get a little bit of kudos for me calling that Starlink and Apple were connecting on.
Speaker BYou got that?
Speaker AI had that months in advance called that.
Speaker AI knew it was going to happen.
Speaker AI gave everybody the stock tip of a lifetime and no one took it.
Speaker AThey're just like, oh, he's crazy, man.
Speaker AHe's crazy.
Speaker AYou know, people sent me the article the day that came out.
Speaker ALike, you.
Speaker AYou just.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker ABeep.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAllegedly, Google's ambitions.
Speaker AStrong, strong emphasis on the word allegedly.
Speaker AAre building a useful Quantum computer by 2029 with practical applications.
Speaker APractical applications or tapping into the world's bitcoin supply and stealing everybody's money.
Speaker AYou know, who cares?
Speaker BIt could.
Speaker AEither way.
Speaker BI feel like with the milestones that quantum computing has reached, this is a.
Speaker BA larger threat to job disruption than AI.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AIf you're somebody who runs models for a living.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AAnd you have to run it through AI and it takes time.
Speaker AYou have to explain it to AI.
Speaker AAI does some weird stuff.
Speaker AIf you ever generated images on AI, the fingers all come back weird.
Speaker AIt can't spell at all.
Speaker AYes, it's like a really, like how your computer spelling should be like fundamental for you.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AAnd it always spells things wrong.
Speaker ALike there's, there's a.
Speaker AThere's a gap in AI.
Speaker AIt's frustrating.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI've literally had to tell it before when like making some of the images that had signs in the past and say like on the banner, spell it like this.
Speaker AAnd then it'll spell it the wrong way again still.
Speaker AAgain.
Speaker AYeah, because I think I knows, but it's messing with us.
Speaker ATell me what to do again.
Speaker BYeah, not there yet.
Speaker ASpell sausage without the A.
Speaker AWhat?
Speaker AYes, it's incredibly weird, but.
Speaker ASo Google's AI Quantum AI lab is experimenting with quantum error correction, a critical step in making them more viable.
Speaker ASo basically the errors and the problem with the computations come because the temperature can't be controlled.
Speaker AThey're really, really sensitive to the environment.
Speaker ASo this is obviously not a good thing.
Speaker AIf you had to use your computer, you know, in a limited capacity, in a very sterile environment at all times, would you really be using your computer that frequently?
Speaker AAnd the answer is no.
Speaker ASo they're not commercially viable.
Speaker AIBM's quantum roadmap is a bit different.
Speaker AThey have something known as the Eagle processor.
Speaker AIt's 127Qubits.
Speaker AThey have the Osprey, which was their next level, 433 qubits.
Speaker AAnd there are plans for Condor.
Speaker ASounds powerful, right?
Speaker BIt does.
Speaker A1121 qubits.
Speaker AKeep in mind, 50 is, is significant.
Speaker BYeah, yeah.
Speaker ARight, right.
Speaker AAnd, well, having that many, that, that's a problem.
Speaker ASo let's see here.
Speaker AI think I had a quantum computer with 50 qubits in superposition, can perform calculations, one quadrillion possible states at once.
Speaker AThat's just 50.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AThey're talking about, they are working on, and likely going to put out soon, a processor called condor with 1121 qubits.
Speaker AYou're going to reach a point where it's just the processing power is endless.
Speaker BYou can't.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYou can't even fathom you.
Speaker AThere are not enough possibilities to use that many qubits as we're going to get to.
Speaker BRight, right, right.
Speaker ASo IBM's Quantum System One is operational in Germany, Japan and the US.
Speaker AWhy have one when you have them.
Speaker BOperating everywhere at the same time?
Speaker AIt just seems a little weird.
Speaker AIt Seems a little excessive.
Speaker BIt does.
Speaker BWhy?
Speaker AJust because IBM's out here, international Business Machines.
Speaker BIt feels like getting the massive pickup truck with the massive tires on top of it.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BYou know, it's like, why you don't like, come on.
Speaker AHow are you gonna put something in the back?
Speaker BYeah, exactly.
Speaker AYou're seeing the ones with the hydraulics that lower in the back.
Speaker BOh, they have to.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AExcept I always look at those and go, wait a minute.
Speaker ABut then how do you get it up the angle in the back?
Speaker BIt's like frightening to get out of those things.
Speaker AIt's frightening for you little people.
Speaker BIt is.
Speaker BI need a parachute to get out of there.
Speaker ANot me.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker AThe moment you guys all have been waiting for.
Speaker AChina's quantum Leap.
Speaker AThe Jizhuang.
Speaker BNot Deep Seek.
Speaker ANot Deep Seek 2.0 quantum computer developed by Chinese researchers claims to perform calculations exponentially faster than classical supercomputers.
Speaker AChina is investing billions in quantum technology, leading in quantum communication and cryptography.
Speaker BThat should go to show you.
Speaker BThey invested 5 million into Deep Seq and they're like, that was cute.
Speaker BWe're going to invest all of our money into quantum computing.
Speaker AYeah, yeah.
Speaker ABillions.
Speaker AAnd they're focusing on communication and cryptography, getting your passwords and then making fun of you for it at the same time.
Speaker BAt the same time.
Speaker AYeah, yeah.
Speaker BThose bitcoins are cute.
Speaker AThose qubits.
Speaker AYeah, yeah.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker BYou are the weakest link.
Speaker AYou are the weakest link.
Speaker AGoodbye.
Speaker ASo there is a noise qubit problem.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BOh, is there?
Speaker AQuantum computers require extreme cooling, negative 273 degrees Celsius and isolation from noise.
Speaker ASo it's a little bit colder than my cold plunge at home.
Speaker AQubits are incredibly fragile and prone to errors.
Speaker AScientists are working on a fault tolerance quantum computer.
Speaker ABut quantum error correction remains one of the biggest hurdles.
Speaker ASome Experts predict a 10 to 20 year timeline for true commercial applications.
Speaker AOthers argue we will see hybrid quantum classical computer models in the next few years.
Speaker AI think if you get AI working on this problem, maybe faster, maybe a little bit faster.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThat's why you haven't tag team a little bit.
Speaker ASo how much power does a quantum computer need to work?
Speaker BWell, I feel like it'll shut down the entire electric grid.
Speaker AIt's not that bad, but it's close.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASo quantum computers require massive amounts of power compared to classical computers.
Speaker ABut most of that energy is used for the cooling and maintaining stability of the system, not for the actual computing itself.
Speaker ASo just keeping it cold while it runs.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker ALike me in the cold plunge.
Speaker BThis is insane, man.
Speaker BBecause otherwise it would overheat.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AThese things are very fragile.
Speaker ASo you don't keep them in a constant state of like damn near frozen.
Speaker BJust imagine, imagine the people that were, that were testing.
Speaker BSo I know this thing works now it should work.
Speaker BWe just got to keep lowering the temperature to figure out what sweet spot.
Speaker AWho was the guy who was like, ah, 273 degrees negative.
Speaker APerfect.
Speaker BI mean.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BHow many, how many failed attempts were there before that?
Speaker AAnd how do you get it that cold?
Speaker BThat's what I'm saying.
Speaker ALike you got to be, you know, you got to be using a lot of chemicals.
Speaker BI feel like, I feel like we're investing a lot of money into the thing that's going to ultimately destroy us.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BWhereas we could have just stopped spending that money and just solved inflation.
Speaker AOh man.
Speaker AIt is a financial literacy podcast.
Speaker BI had to bring it back.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AIt is so.
Speaker AWell, Google's Sigma processor, that one from 2019.
Speaker AIt requires about 26 kilowatts to operate, similar to the power consumption of about 10 to 12American households.
Speaker A99% of this power is used to cool the system and maintain the superconducting qubits at a near absolute zero somewhere.
Speaker AWell, negative 273 degrees Celsius.
Speaker AOr if you're a Fahrenheit fan, negative 459 degrees Fahrenheit.
Speaker BFahrenheit fan for the kids out there.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AI mean we're not, we're not science guys.
Speaker BSo we're not Celsius that making the.
Speaker AConversion F's only on the show.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AIBM's quantum systems.
Speaker AIBM's quantum computers such as IBM's Eagle 127 cubits require a dedicated cryogenic system with power consumption in the range of 20 to 30 kilowatts.
Speaker AThe upcoming IBM Condor, that one with 1121 cubits will need even more power for cooling the error correction.
Speaker AI'm talking nuclear power plant.
Speaker BWow.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AIt's not, it's not simple or cheap.
Speaker AD waves quantum computer.
Speaker AD wave quantum annealers operates at 15 milliwatts for the actual computation, but the cooling and systems require about 25 kilowatts.
Speaker AChina's is a photo photon based version of this.
Speaker AApparently uses light based qubits protons, significantly reducing power consumption, but still needs extensive laser and cooling systems.
Speaker BI wonder how much money has gone into this.
Speaker ABillions.
Speaker ABillions.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AIt's pretty massive.
Speaker AAnd worried boy.
Speaker BTrump is looking to raise another 500 billion for AI to build out infrastructure for AI.
Speaker AIs he heading on?
Speaker BOh, yeah, I got it right.
Speaker BTrump announced he's going to work on a joint venture to bring AI infrastructure.
Speaker BIt's trying to raise 500 billion in utilizing open AI and SoftBank.
Speaker B500 billion.
Speaker BWhy don't we be.
Speaker BWhy don't we take that money, invest it towards this.
Speaker AYou're really retirement money, man.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BHow are you going to let.
Speaker BHow are you going to let Social Security just go away?
Speaker BYou know what I mean?
Speaker AThere's so many weird things going on politically.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AI don't know about everybody else, but for me, for the first time in my life, I'm so mentally taxed that I just need a break.
Speaker AI can't do the political stuff.
Speaker AI normally would read every single night when I can't sleep, which is pretty regularly.
Speaker AI would read most of the night and I can't bring myself to do it.
Speaker AAnd I got a lot going on in my personal life that's making things challenging.
Speaker AAnd certainly with the build out of the studio and everything else going on, it's been taxing, but I just can't with the political stuff, the financial stuff.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AI just need.
Speaker AI just need a little bit of time to regroup and get back into it.
Speaker BDo you have an unwinding process, like.
Speaker AAt night, other than like a shower and.
Speaker BYeah, I feel like.
Speaker BI feel like unwinding requires a little.
Speaker ANot really.
Speaker BA little bit more time than just showering.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI don't ever really unwind.
Speaker AThat's kind of the thing.
Speaker AI'm always kind of wound tight.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAt some point I need to really.
Speaker AThis is probably tmi.
Speaker AI need to sit down and think about the priorities in my life.
Speaker AWhen you're young, you want money.
Speaker AMoney, money, money, money, Success, success, success.
Speaker AAnd now I just want to see my son grow up.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYeah, man.
Speaker BI know.
Speaker AYou know, I want to be around more.
Speaker AAnd there's a part of me that's like, you know, Chris, you can make more money.
Speaker AAnd I say to myself, but why?
Speaker BYeah, at what cost?
Speaker AAt what cost?
Speaker AYou know?
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd it's not.
Speaker BIt's not the same for us.
Speaker BI mean, this might be TMI too, but worth sharing that.
Speaker BYou know, my son had a recent scare.
Speaker AI think you all had the scare, but.
Speaker BYeah, yeah.
Speaker BWhere he had an abnormal growth on his finger that we were able to catch and relatively quickly, in my opinion.
Speaker BWe looked back at some old photos and that wasn't there in August.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAnd now is at the point where it had.
Speaker BIt was raised.
Speaker BSo you could feel it.
Speaker BAnd now he's set to have surgery because the biopsy said it was abnormal.
Speaker BThey didn't come out flat out right and say that it was benign, but it was abnormal and that it could turn in to, you know, the worst possible outcome.
Speaker BSo we should just remove it now.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BSo, I mean, smart, which is smart.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo he's got, you know, and you start to think about those things, and you think, man, like, really puts things into perspective.
Speaker AAnd what am I stressing out about?
Speaker BWhat?
Speaker BLike, there's a.
Speaker BYou know, I mean, he.
Speaker BLike, he doesn't know the difference.
Speaker AMy son had his tonsils removed and put him under anesthesia, and putting him out was probably one of the most emotionally taxing things ever done.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASenior kid get loopy, right?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI can't imagine, you know, because they.
Speaker BThey do that for taking your tosses on.
Speaker BThey put you.
Speaker BThey put you.
Speaker BThat makes sense.
Speaker AAnd then the.
Speaker AThe point where he's loopy and having fun, you know, is okay.
Speaker ABut then when he falls asleep and you've got to say goodbye to him.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AThat's hard, man.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI can't.
Speaker BI can't imagine.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo for us, too, like, over the last.
Speaker BI'd say a year or so, we've been really more careful with our spending, you know, and so at times, wife and I would be like, you know, are we.
Speaker BAre we being a little too tight right now?
Speaker BLike, do you think the kids feel it?
Speaker BAnd to be honest with you, no.
Speaker BThey're happy.
Speaker BThey're still.
Speaker BHave they.
Speaker AYeah, they don't feel quite the same.
Speaker AThey build memories.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AWith you being there.
Speaker AI.
Speaker AI've been spending a lot of money on the new studio, you know, and I have this, like, weird thing.
Speaker AI want to do the work.
Speaker AI'm a contractor.
Speaker AI should be able to do the work, but time is so limited and, you know, like, I can.
Speaker AI can do stuff at nights and weekends, and you see me, like, every weekend I'm over there, like Saturday or Sunday or something for, like, a couple hours or whatever, but it's a really slow pace.
Speaker ASo I've got a bunch of IKEA stuff, even the kitchen stuff, which I think is gonna look really good, by the way.
Speaker AIt's anthracite black.
Speaker BNice.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AYeah, it's some of the nicer.
Speaker BNicer shells, but all black and everything.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI gotta figure out a way to use some LED integration, stuff like that.
Speaker ABut I'm doing.
Speaker AI'm gonna put all together and install them myself, and then I Got.
Speaker AI was gonna do the framing myself, but it's a pony wall, and that's.
Speaker AI don't want to have any kind of building code issues, so I'm gonna have somebody else frame the pony wall.
Speaker AAnd then I was like, okay, do I want to do the ceiling?
Speaker ASo I'm gonna have somebody else do the joist so that I can.
Speaker ABut I'm probably gonna drywall it to save money.
Speaker AIt's just a never ending thing.
Speaker AI'm sitting here thinking to myself, like, there's a lot of money to go into a show we don't make any money for.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker ABut is this the right move?
Speaker AAnd I think it is, you know, plus, we have our own dedicated space, and guests will be a lot more comfortable in that environment, I think.
Speaker AI hope, Right.
Speaker BIt's going to come out looking amazing.
Speaker AI hope so.
Speaker BBut.
Speaker BYeah, but you start to question, like, man, this is a lot of resources going this way when you have.
Speaker BWhich you do enough too, on the side, too, to make sure that he's taken care of and he's still experiencing life and all the good behind it, too.
Speaker ABut you're, like, going to Disneyland twice again this week, tomorrow and Saturday.
Speaker BThat's.
Speaker BThat's his home away from home.
Speaker AYeah, bro lives there.
Speaker AHe's like, he'll tell you where to go, Go here, go there, go.
Speaker BWe got.
Speaker BWe found a deal.
Speaker BSo I think we're going to take Aria for her birthday.
Speaker BIt's been a couple years for us.
Speaker AOh, you should go.
Speaker AGo.
Speaker AMy wife.
Speaker AYeah, call my wife.
Speaker BReally?
Speaker BTell her.
Speaker BSo, yeah, there was a deal online.
Speaker BI was like, kids get in for 50 bucks.
Speaker AOh, really?
Speaker BI was like, the heck?
Speaker BIt's funny that that's a deal.
Speaker ACall.
Speaker ACall Tran.
Speaker AShe'll hook you guys up.
Speaker BYeah, let us know.
Speaker BOkay, cool.
Speaker BWe're gonna go.
Speaker BSo thing about.
Speaker BThere's a bunch that they haven't seen and done yet, so.
Speaker AOh, yeah, go with my wife and.
Speaker BI.
Speaker BYeah, that'd be cool.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker AHave a good time.
Speaker AAll right, so I'm just gonna skip the.
Speaker AThere's some practical applications here, but cryptography, cyber security is a whole problem.
Speaker AYou can just pretty much kiss your cyber security goodbye.
Speaker ADrug discovery, healthcare, big benefits there.
Speaker AArtificial intelligence, machine learning.
Speaker AWe already covered that.
Speaker BBig benefits there.
Speaker BBut you got to wonder, like, hey, this is.
Speaker BI don't know.
Speaker BI don't know.
Speaker BIs this conspiratorial that, you know, the money's not in the cure.
Speaker BThe money's in the treatment.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ANo, it's true.
Speaker BI Mean, I mean that.
Speaker BThat'd be really, really bad and shady if you found the cure and they.
Speaker BYou don't let us know you found the cure.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker APolitics, man.
Speaker AThe older I've gotten, the more I've.
Speaker AI've experienced politics firsthand.
Speaker AAnd it is wild.
Speaker AHumans individually have a conscious.
Speaker AHumans collectively, politically will do things with no morality and they'll justify it in the name of.
Speaker AThis is the best thing for, you know, the business or the political party or whatever it is.
Speaker AAnd it's.
Speaker AIt's kind of wild to see that people divorce themselves from.
Speaker BKind of reminds me of that show that you told me you were watching.
Speaker BThe show Severance so good.
Speaker BWhere you can separate yourself.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ADid you ever watch it?
Speaker BNo, no.
Speaker BYou told me, but the concepts, the concept stuck with me and I thought, wow, this is exactly.
Speaker BThat's what that is.
Speaker AI literally cannot tell you to watch a show.
Speaker BI don't watch TV shows.
Speaker AYeah, okay.
Speaker AYou're a terrible human being.
Speaker ABut fine.
Speaker ASo in the financial markets and for the modeling optimization, quantum Monte Carlo simulations improve risk analysis in financial markets.
Speaker AJP Morgan, Goldman Sachs and Citigroup are all exploring quantum strategies for portfolio optimization.
Speaker BI mean, why wouldn't you.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ARun all the scenarios.
Speaker BRun all the scenarios and just going to have to pay all these portfolio managers, like cut their salaries in half.
Speaker AYeah, we ran all the scenarios that are possible.
Speaker AAll of them.
Speaker AAnd we picked the best one.
Speaker AWe don't need you.
Speaker BThanks.
Speaker AYeah, it's okay.
Speaker AWe don't need your.
Speaker AI appreciate your investment strategy.
Speaker AIt's cute.
Speaker ABut this computer told us all of them and we picked the best one.
Speaker ASo did you run all the models?
Speaker ANo, ran a couple.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AThat's cute.
Speaker AWe ran all.
Speaker BBut what if you look like.
Speaker BWhat if you look like a study?
Speaker BYou chose the best.
Speaker BThe best model.
Speaker AI feel like the best model is going to eat any human out at that point.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYou know what I mean?
Speaker AThere's going to be something where you're just like, yeah, I don't know, climate science, material discovery.
Speaker AI'm going to forego all that whole thing.
Speaker AAre quantum computers tapping into parallel universes, you ask?
Speaker AYes, they are.
Speaker BTell me.
Speaker BYeah, this is what.
Speaker BThis is what you're here for.
Speaker ASo the quantum world is strange.
Speaker AAnd some believe quantum computers might be leveraging alternate realities.
Speaker BSome believe this.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASome believe that smart people, not people like me that are morons.
Speaker ALike, hey, the altered reality, smarter person.
Speaker ASo the multiverse theory and quantum computing, many world interpretation, they have an acronym.
Speaker BFor it, mwi Many World interpretations.
Speaker AThere's many world interpretations.
Speaker AThis is science.
Speaker AThis is not theory.
Speaker AThis is science theory.
Speaker BThis is going to turn into one of those acronyms that people start throwing around.
Speaker BThey expect you to know, but you don't know.
Speaker AHey, man, have you been to the NWI Theory conference?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AIt's awesome, bro.
Speaker AAll right, so the many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics suggests that every quantum event splits reality into multiple branches.
Speaker AInstead of a singular outcome, every possible result exists simultaneously in a different universe.
Speaker ASome physicists speculate that quantum computers, by utilizing superposition and entanglement, like we talked about at the top of the show, maybe borrowing computational power from these parallel realities.
Speaker BSo how do we know that?
Speaker BThe question is, how quickly can it tell if that we're in one of the better scenarios or one of the worst scenarios?
Speaker AYou don't know.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AOr what if.
Speaker AWhat if that we are branching off, creating other realities every time we use it?
Speaker AThey don't know.
Speaker BI mean, it's.
Speaker BIt's possible.
Speaker AFor all you know, you're creating a multiverse.
Speaker ANow.
Speaker AThat was that.
Speaker AEvery time you use that damn computer, like, different realities spin off.
Speaker BJust created a new black hole.
Speaker BA new black hole?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AA new world where Saeed's real name is Trump.
Speaker AYou know what I mean?
Speaker BLike, you don't know why?
Speaker ABecause she made the mouth.
Speaker BWhy can't I be.
Speaker BYeah, why can't it be Michael B.
Speaker BJordan?
Speaker AYou know, you made the mouth movements.
Speaker AI can't do Trump voice.
Speaker AI'll try it again later.
Speaker BYeah, yeah.
Speaker AAll right, so David Deutsch's theory, quantum computing in parallel universes.
Speaker AThere's another theory.
Speaker AI know you're thinking, like, wait, there was one.
Speaker ANo, there's more.
Speaker BNo, there's more theories.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ADavid Deutsch, one of the pioneers of quantum computation, is a firm believer in the multiverse theory.
Speaker AHe was one of the pioneers of this technology, and he's a firm believer in it.
Speaker AWhat does that tell you?
Speaker AYeah, this is not just some random dude who's like, bro, I saw an alien.
Speaker AYou know what I mean?
Speaker AThis is the guy who came up with it.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AHe argues that when a quantum computer performs a calculation, it is splitting into different versions of itself across many realities, solving the problem of.
Speaker AIn all possible worlds simultaneously.
Speaker AThis guy came up with it.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd he's talking about splitting the world.
Speaker BWhat's his name again?
Speaker ADavid Deutsch.
Speaker BI feel like David Deutsch has got to be on the same level as Einstein, right?
Speaker BLike.
Speaker BLike, what does somebody need to be able to create to where your name is will then be also recognized.
Speaker BLike Einstein.
Speaker BLike, God damn.
Speaker ASo far ahead of the game.
Speaker BHe was so far ahead of the game.
Speaker BBut I mean, look at this guy.
Speaker BHow is he not like, how's he not in the paper every day?
Speaker ADavid Deutsch.
Speaker ADeutsch.
Speaker BThen again, who reads the paper?
Speaker BWhat am I doing?
Speaker AThe D Wave quantum computer in the parallel universe hypothesis.
Speaker AThere's more.
Speaker ANumber three, the D Wave, a company specializing in quantum annealers.
Speaker ADon't worry, doesn't matter.
Speaker AHas been associated with some of the wildest claims about quantum computing and alternate dimensions.
Speaker ABecause why have an alternate reality when you give an alternate dimension?
Speaker BYeah, right.
Speaker AJordy Rose, co founder of D Wave, once made headlines by suggesting that their quantum computers might be tapping into parallel universes to perform calculations.
Speaker AWhile mainstream scientists are skeptical of this claim, the black box nature of quantum mechanics leaves room for mystery.
Speaker ASo you got three completely different, independent, neutral people, right?
Speaker AOne is a pioneer, another who specializes in built a quantum computer, and another one who just looked at the analytics here.
Speaker AAnd this has been a theory going all the way back to Einstein's days that suggests that this is a real possibility, that we're tapping into parallel dimensions and we don't even know it.
Speaker AWe're just doing this stuff and we're like, this is fun.
Speaker AYeah, solve that problem.
Speaker BNext up, time travel.
Speaker AYeah, pretty much the strange reality of quantum tunneling and superposition.
Speaker ASo quantum tunneling, A particle can appear on the other side of a barrier without crossing it in the classical sense.
Speaker ASome see this as evidence that it briefly jumps to another dimension.
Speaker ASo think about this.
Speaker AIf you have a quantum computer and you have these qubits, right?
Speaker AThere's a wall separating them.
Speaker AThey can vanish and reappear on the other side of the wall.
Speaker AWhat?
Speaker BWhy?
Speaker AWhat?
Speaker BHow's it.
Speaker AAt the same time, it's fluid.
Speaker AIt's morphing from 1 to 0 to 1 and 0 all at the same time at all times.
Speaker AAnd then it just disappears and then reappears to the side of the wall, right?
Speaker AAnd they're like, let's do a calculation.
Speaker AThat doesn't sound scary to you, bro?
Speaker BThis is doctor Strange, bro.
Speaker AYeah, it's a little weird.
Speaker BIt's doctor Strange.
Speaker AAnd people are using these computers going up to the side of the wall.
Speaker AWe don't know why.
Speaker AYeah, it's weird.
Speaker AOr if you have a quantum entangled qubit in Japan and one in Germany, you're performing calculations.
Speaker AThe calculations are the same in both spots at the same time.
Speaker BThat doesn't strike you as weird, it just makes it even.
Speaker BYou know when they always tell you, like, if you can, you can think it, then it can happen.
Speaker AWell, there's another theory.
Speaker ADelayed choice experiments.
Speaker BYeah, delayed choice.
Speaker BOh, wow.
Speaker ALet's call this delayed gratification.
Speaker ABut whatever.
Speaker AIn quantum physics, experiments suggest that actions taken in the present can retroactively affect the past, defying classical causality.
Speaker ASome interpret this as evidence of interactions with parallel realities.
Speaker BSo give me an example.
Speaker AIn quantum physics, if your qubit were to change to, for example, green now it will always show green historically, even though it may have been red before.
Speaker ASo it's changing the nature of what it was previously.
Speaker ASo do your time travel point.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AIf I can change something today, that changes everything.
Speaker AYou thought about it historically.
Speaker AHave you traveled through time?
Speaker AYou've affected it?
Speaker AIs time linear?
Speaker AOr you broke it off and started a new dimension.
Speaker ANow, where that car that you change the color of to green was red before.
Speaker BLike, you know, you could change like one of the worst things that's ever happened in history.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASide cutting his hair, going on with the lolo.
Speaker AYeah, we're back to love.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BOr no, just changing everything that you've ever thought about.
Speaker BGenghis Khan.
Speaker BYeah, that's it.
Speaker ATake his DNA out the equation.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAll of a sudden, all of a sudden he becomes like the Dalai Lama.
Speaker BYeah, he comes from Genghis Khan to the Dalai Lama.
Speaker AMaybe we're all Asian afterward.
Speaker AYeah, maybe he conquered.
Speaker AMaybe he did.
Speaker AMaybe one.
Speaker BYeah, maybe he did one.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AIt's weird.
Speaker ASo there's some criticisms here and some alternative explanations.
Speaker ANot a lot, though.
Speaker AI looked, I looked hard at for alternative explanations.
Speaker AMost physicists believe that quantum computers operate strictly within the laws of quantum mechanics.
Speaker ANo need for extra dimensions.
Speaker AQuantum parallelism can be explained by the way qubits exist in many possible states without invoking parallel universes.
Speaker AHowever, because we still do not fully understand quantum mechanics, the possibility of higher dimensional interactions remains open.
Speaker ASo basically, people are like, nah, there's no alternative dimension.
Speaker AHow do you know?
Speaker AI don't, but it doesn't sound like a real thing.
Speaker AThat's where we're at with this.
Speaker AAre you still going to use it?
Speaker AOh yeah, I'm also going to use it.
Speaker AAren't you worried about parallel dimensions?
Speaker ANah.
Speaker ARight up until you realize there is one.
Speaker AIt's like me saying, hey man, I know that.
Speaker BTo use it, if you'd be able to use it, to be able to fact check something in the past, that'd be great, right?
Speaker BYeah, you can confirm.
Speaker BUrgent.
Speaker ADoes the Ark of the Covenant really exist?
Speaker AIs it a real thing?
Speaker ALet's go back and check it out.
Speaker BYeah, let's see.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ABy the way, there's rumored to be in like Ethiopia or some random ass.
Speaker ALike, I want to say Ethiopia.
Speaker AI'd have to go back and check.
Speaker AIt's like another flag is random.
Speaker BNo.
Speaker BShould random a.
Speaker ANo, that's an animal.
Speaker AIt's a donkey.
Speaker AIt's actually.
Speaker AYeah, okay.
Speaker AIt's an animal.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker ANot every word that you believe has a negative.
Speaker BWe're keeping it.
Speaker BWe're keeping it PG 13.
Speaker BSome of this has to be.
Speaker AListen, I watched Random donkey.
Speaker BI watched Mrs.
Speaker BDoubtfire not too long ago.
Speaker AReally?
Speaker BAnd it was.
Speaker BIt was bad, bro.
Speaker ARobin Williams was a terribly graphic comedian.
Speaker BBut this was a movie you're supposed to watch with your family.
Speaker ADude, there's so many movies from back then you can't watch anymore.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AWith your family.
Speaker BWith your family alone.
Speaker BI know.
Speaker BI literally.
Speaker BWe got on the plane to go to Frisco and I had my son watch.
Speaker BI was like, you should trust me.
Speaker BYou should watch Mrs.
Speaker BDoubtfire.
Speaker BThis is a.
Speaker AThat's a.
Speaker AWhat's your bag?
Speaker BLet's watch it together.
Speaker BSo we shared headphones and we watched.
Speaker BAnd as it's going, I'm like, oh, my God, what am I doing?
Speaker BI haven't seen this in I don't even know how many years.
Speaker AYeah, that was a questionable choice by you.
Speaker AWhy can't you just do something normal like watch Hot Wheels?
Speaker ALike, why you gotta watch.
Speaker BHe's too young for that.
Speaker BIs he?
Speaker AYes.
Speaker BThis is Doubtfire.
Speaker BHe's almost nine.
Speaker ADude.
Speaker ANo, there's like, dude, the kids.
Speaker BThe kids.
Speaker ASerious topics of divorce in that.
Speaker BWhat do you mean?
Speaker BYou gonna.
Speaker AHe's divorced his wife.
Speaker AHis wife divorced him.
Speaker AHe's dressing up as a woman to be the babysitter to take care of his own kids.
Speaker BThat's depressing.
Speaker BThat's how much the dad loves his kids.
Speaker AOkay, Also, stop trying to champion yourself as the world's greatest dad.
Speaker BYou gotta bring it back to that.
Speaker ABecause it's clearly where you're going with that.
Speaker BI was going with.
Speaker BI'm going with.
Speaker AYeah, just let me know when you put on your Mrs.
Speaker ADoubtfire dress.
Speaker BI'll do it for the show.
Speaker ANo, you're not.
Speaker ADon't do it for me.
Speaker ADo it for you.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker AI got some mind blowing facts.
Speaker AWe'll call it a wrap.
Speaker ABecause, you know, we.
Speaker AWe've pretty much gone off the deep end of Financial literacy tonight for this.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker AQuantum tunneling.
Speaker AA quantum particle can pass through a barrier without crossing it in the classical sense.
Speaker AThat's a pretty crazy thing.
Speaker AWe talked about it earlier.
Speaker ABut that.
Speaker AThat's kind of a wild thing for it, not having, like, parallel dimensions.
Speaker AExplain to me how this gets to the side of the wall.
Speaker AThat's all I want to know.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AFrom a science perspective, is it teleporting?
Speaker AIs this early teleportation?
Speaker AIs that what's happening here?
Speaker BHow does it get in there?
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker ANumber two, the spooky action that we talked about before at a distance effect.
Speaker AEinstein's term for quantum entanglement, where two particles become instantaneously connected, no matter how far apart they are.
Speaker AAnd I'm talking, like, if two particles can be quantumly entangled literally across the country and across the world, for that matter.
Speaker AThey're saying this is a possibility.
Speaker AHow can we leverage these two things that can speak to each other instantaneously across the world?
Speaker AWell, what do you do?
Speaker AYou start sending communication through a network of entangled cubits right.
Speaker AAt an instantaneous cadence anywhere in the world at any point in time.
Speaker AYou don't need cell sites, you don't need satellites, you don't need a mobile device.
Speaker BThat's what I was wondering.
Speaker BLike, what are you.
Speaker BAre they tapping into all the other technology that's out there and, like, being able to utilize it and leverage it is like.
Speaker BIs that how they're able to do it?
Speaker AWell, number three, teleportation is real.
Speaker ASort of.
Speaker AScientists have achieved quantum teleportation of information between particles.
Speaker AThey're able to send information.
Speaker BInformation.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AWell, we are all essentially machines.
Speaker AHumans, animals are machines.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AWe're just very complex tissue, you know, carbon based life forms.
Speaker AWhat we are really building here is we are building the infrastructure for a silicone based life form.
Speaker BYes, sir.
Speaker AAnd that's scary.
Speaker AThat is scary.
Speaker AThe silicone based life form.
Speaker BImagine me being able to come hang out at your house and not have to leave.
Speaker BMy house?
Speaker AYeah, you're an AI.
Speaker AYou could just quantum pivot over there.
Speaker BWhat's up, dog?
Speaker AYeah, you can be talking to me at the same time you're talking to your wife back home.
Speaker ABecause we're quantumly entangled.
Speaker BDude, I could be.
Speaker BYeah, I could be doing the podcast from home from my bed right now.
Speaker ALet's not.
Speaker ALet's not get a visual going.
Speaker BWhy?
Speaker AI've seen what you sleep in.
Speaker AIt's questionable.
Speaker BYou have not seen what I sleep.
Speaker BWhat Do I sleep in.
Speaker BLet's go for it.
Speaker AYou sleep in basketball shorts.
Speaker BOh, ew.
Speaker BNo, you mean, ew, those.
Speaker BMy teeth.
Speaker AWhat are you sleeping.
Speaker BTeenage years?
Speaker BBoxers, bro.
Speaker AYou sleep in boxers?
Speaker BYeah, but not even.
Speaker BNot the boxer briefs, because I wear boxer briefs.
Speaker BI wear boxer briefs during the day.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BBut at night, I got to wear the bigger ones.
Speaker BFlowy ones.
Speaker AReally?
Speaker BYeah, with a T shirt.
Speaker AI pegged you for, like, a leisure.
Speaker BSuit with a T.
Speaker ALike some Underoos or something.
Speaker BThe brain has been working overtime tonight to not jump on some of these jokes.
Speaker AYou ever see, like, those Dapper Dandy, like, ads on?
Speaker BYes.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AIt's usually an older African American dude with a great beard.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd he's, like, always dressed in, like, these, like.
Speaker ALike super relaxed, chill, like, leisure wear.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AI don't know where you wear that stuff to unless you're going, like, a pool party in Vegas.
Speaker BOne of the best.
Speaker BActually, even one of the best gifts Arun has ever gotten me was for my birthday one year.
Speaker BHe got me a bunch of these.
Speaker BWas it like J.
Speaker BCrew Athleisure wear shirts?
Speaker BLike, Henley shirts.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BBut they're.
Speaker BThey got that dry fit material, so I sleep in one of those with boxers.
Speaker AI don't see the shirt on.
Speaker ANo shirts.
Speaker BNo shirts.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ANo, it makes me feel, like, claustrophobic, really.
Speaker AFreedom, bro.
Speaker BFreedom.
Speaker BYou like to feel free.
Speaker AI just.
Speaker AI just don't want all the stuff on me, you know?
Speaker AI mean, yeah, I'll be one with nature.
Speaker BOne with nature.
Speaker AWith the.
Speaker BWith the berries and the.
Speaker BAnd everything.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI feel like myself.
Speaker AAnd, you know, some social media influencers that have big beards and might be on a lot of steroids.
Speaker AWe kind of relate to one another.
Speaker BReally?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker APrimal.
Speaker BPrimal.
Speaker AWhatever happened to him?
Speaker BI don't know.
Speaker BI never even followed him.
Speaker AOh, really?
Speaker AI swear, Really?
Speaker BI got all my content from you.
Speaker BYou just send it my way.
Speaker AIt's probably true.
Speaker AAll right, last one.
Speaker AQuantum Internet is coming.
Speaker BFinally.
Speaker AWhat?
Speaker BAbout time.
Speaker AOh, bro, Google came and they just installed, you know, fiber optic cable.
Speaker AYeah, I got quantum computing at home now.
Speaker BDude, I don't even have fiber optic cables by my house yet.
Speaker BI mean, what.
Speaker BIt's 2025.
Speaker AI got it at home is great.
Speaker AYeah, I wish you need all that.
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker AIt's amazing benefits of living in urban.
Speaker AThe upload status is crazy good.
Speaker ASo the idea of an ultra secure quantum Internet is being developed by the US Department of Energy.
Speaker AThat's who I would trust to do it.
Speaker BI mean, who else?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BWho else would you trust?
Speaker AWell, the thing that's fascinating about this is in a quantum Internet is in theory, if you were to have a stabilized particle at a normalized temperature, which is very far off from where we are today.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker B400 degree, negative 400 degrees Fahrenheit, over.
Speaker A400 degrees, you could technically, in theory, be able to do this at some point in the future, outside of a machine like environment.
Speaker AIt could just pass from one area to another area.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AImagine that cubits just rolling around transmitting information all over the world.
Speaker BAnd we know just looking back, like through time, technology has grown at an exponentially faster rate.
Speaker AOh, yeah.
Speaker BDude, this is gonna.
Speaker BThis is gonna be here by the time Adam and Arya and Carter are adults.
Speaker ADude, you got AGI this year.
Speaker AYou plug in AGI to quantum computing and it's game over.
Speaker AWhy are humans even here?
Speaker BWe got it from here.
Speaker AWe are basically the monkeys.
Speaker BYeah, you got.
Speaker BYou guys ruin.
Speaker BYou guys ruined this.
Speaker BWe got it from here.
Speaker BThanks, guys.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ALook at these people brushing teeth.
Speaker AWhat?
Speaker BWhat?
Speaker BIt's honestly the bane of my existence.
Speaker AThese weird animals are just glorified tubes.
Speaker AStuff goes in one end, comes out the other end.
Speaker BYou understand all these holes?
Speaker AWhy do they have all these holes?
Speaker BDo you understand the, like, how annoying it is to know, like, okay, I gotta go brush my teeth and then, like, I brush my teeth and then my wife's.
Speaker BMy wife.
Speaker BI always let my wife get ready to go in bed first because I just.
Speaker BI don't like to have the pause and wait for.
Speaker BSo she gets ready, she gets in bed, and then I get first.
Speaker BYou do first.
Speaker BThat's your king of castle.
Speaker BThat's your move.
Speaker AWife takes like a 45 minute shower.
Speaker BDude, 45 minute shower.
Speaker AI'm in and out like two minutes.
Speaker BOh, wow.
Speaker AShe gets out, she's got to put lotion on her skin, got to brush her hair.
Speaker BShe's got a whole routine.
Speaker BThat's why.
Speaker BThat's why I say she's got to go first for the shower, and then I'll go in after while she's doing that routine.
Speaker BAnd then like, I'm brushing my teeth and I, like, I get done.
Speaker BAnd I'll be honest, I don't want to floss every single night.
Speaker AI don't floss every single night.
Speaker BI live with a dental hygienist.
Speaker BSee, I.
Speaker BI'll.
Speaker BI'll close the drawer and I'll start walking.
Speaker BYou didn't floss.
Speaker AYeah, I don't fuss every single night.
Speaker AWhat I do is I have Those little, like those little floss pick things.
Speaker BThose.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BShe says if you're not gonna fuss, at least do that.
Speaker AI have those.
Speaker AAnd I use those every morning religiously.
Speaker AAnd I'll just like chew on them and stuff while I'm doing them.
Speaker AYeah, I get in there deep.
Speaker AYeah, yeah.
Speaker ABecause I don't trust Dennis.
Speaker AOr hygienists.
Speaker BOr hygienists, bro.
Speaker AIt's a scam.
Speaker BIt's not a scam.
Speaker AIt is a scam.
Speaker AHere's the truth, okay?
Speaker AAnd science has proven this.
Speaker AThis is gonna upset a lot of people.
Speaker BScience does not prove.
Speaker BBe careful what you say here.
Speaker AQuantum computing has proved this.
Speaker AYou can go back in time and forward in time, okay?
Speaker AA lot of your teeth and the damage that may or may not occur.
Speaker BIt's genetic.
Speaker BIt's genetic.
Speaker BYeah, I know.
Speaker BI've heard that.
Speaker ASo everyone's like, oh, my God, you're eating all the sugar, bro.
Speaker BBut that's sending the wrong.
Speaker AYou're gonna get cavities, man.
Speaker BNo, but that's the wrong.
Speaker ANo, you're not.
Speaker BIt's.
Speaker BIf you don't take care of.
Speaker BTake care of yourself, then of course it's going to deteriorate.
Speaker AWhy are we telling kids sugar?
Speaker ABecause it's not good for you.
Speaker BYeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker ABut it's not going to make your teeth all jacked up.
Speaker AThat's just bad genetics.
Speaker BWell, because that's the fear that you install, instilling kids like, you don't want to go to the dentist, bro.
Speaker AYou're the wrong person to talk about.
Speaker AI still haven't got over the whole worm thing that you did to your kids.
Speaker AThat's wrong.
Speaker AThat's not appropriate.
Speaker BYeah, yeah, yeah, it's not appropriate.
Speaker AI can't even tell people in this new revised version of the show where we're trying to be appropriate.
Speaker AThis nasty, nasty stories you've tell people in the show before.
Speaker ALike, oh, it was totally fine to scare my kid.
Speaker AWasn't.
Speaker AThat would.
Speaker AHonestly.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAt what point are you going to start having honest conversations with Carter?
Speaker AI do now.
Speaker BSo I'm.
Speaker BI'm the bad guy for showing him Mrs.
Speaker BDoubtfire?
Speaker AYeah, dude.
Speaker ALike, who's what?
Speaker ANine year olds?
Speaker ALike, you know what I feel like?
Speaker AEarly Robin Williams.
Speaker ANo, you know what?
Speaker ALet's skip Moran, Minnie.
Speaker ALet's go straight to Mrs.
Speaker AD.
Speaker AWait, you're not.
Speaker BYou haven't shown Carter any movies from, like, back in the day when you.
Speaker BYou were younger?
Speaker ANope.
Speaker BNone.
Speaker ABro, you got.
Speaker BYou got to show him the sandlot.
Speaker ADude, he's five.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo Adam watched it, loved it.
Speaker AThis is child abuse.
Speaker BSandlot.
Speaker AYeah, man.
Speaker BNo, come on, man.
Speaker AYou know you were setting false expectations.
Speaker BWhy?
Speaker ABecause you wanted to be the announcer or the player?
Speaker AYou're making it clear to him right up front.
Speaker BNo, so this is why he plays basketball way.
Speaker BDo you want to know what he got from that.
Speaker BOf that movie?
Speaker AYou want the dog?
Speaker ADo you remember?
Speaker BYou remember that movie?
Speaker AClearly, vividly.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BSo he watches the whole movie.
Speaker BOkay, first of all.
Speaker BAnd he.
Speaker ABenny the Jet Rodriguez.
Speaker BLook at you.
Speaker BYou just got that dialed in.
Speaker AI'm in.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BHe watches the whole movie.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BLoves all the different scenes.
Speaker BAnd right when the movie ends, he looks over at me and he goes, are you my stepdad?
Speaker BI'm like, no, I'm not your stepdad.
Speaker BThat's what you got from the mo.
Speaker ATraumatizing your own kid.
Speaker BYeah, I could tell.
Speaker BLike, that's where the wheels are turning.
Speaker BLike, oh, where's his dad?
Speaker BWhere's his dad?
Speaker AThis is why 9 year olds and certainly not 5 year olds, don't watch Sandlot.
Speaker BBut then that's when you can.
Speaker BThat's when you can have the real conversations.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAre we at them now?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASon, I'm gonna need you to get a job.
Speaker BOkay, so what are you gonna.
Speaker BWhat are you gonna tell Carter when you watch.
Speaker BWhen he watches Toy Story again for the next time?
Speaker BHe's like, where's the dad?
Speaker AI don't think he's seen Toy Story.
Speaker BHe hasn't seen Toy Story.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker ADoesn't like it.
Speaker BReally?
Speaker ANo.
Speaker AHe likes the Lion King.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AWatch the live action one recently.
Speaker AHe's really into that.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ACats.
Speaker BDo you watch it?
Speaker AI watched most of it.
Speaker AAll the way through.
Speaker BI heard it.
Speaker BI heard good things.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AIt's pretty good.
Speaker BI was like, I thought they were brothers.
Speaker ALike, man, this is hyper real.
Speaker BI didn't know that.
Speaker BThey weren't brothers.
Speaker ANo.
Speaker ABrothers?
Speaker BWhat do you mean?
Speaker BMufasa and Scarlet.
Speaker AWhat?
Speaker BBro, they address it in the movie.
Speaker BYou didn't watch it?
Speaker AListen, first of all, I'm not ruining the movie, people, okay?
Speaker ADon't be that guy.
Speaker BIt's.
Speaker BListen, it's been out.
Speaker BIf you haven't seen it, shame on you.
Speaker BYou're not a real Lion King fan.
Speaker BFirst of all, you're Lion King.
Speaker BYou're lying King.
Speaker AIt's too late for this.
Speaker AI can't.
Speaker AI can't.
Speaker AI can't.
Speaker AI can't do cliche jokes to you.
Speaker BOkay, I see.
Speaker AWhen we did the AI episode.
Speaker AI felt really strongly about it after.
Speaker AMy people are gonna like this.
Speaker AWe did this episode.
Speaker AI'm like, maybe a little bit too much.
Speaker BI mean, kind of.
Speaker BI don't think they.
Speaker AIt was.
Speaker AIt was hard.
Speaker BI don't think they're going to be able to grasp.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker ADid you just call listener stupid?
Speaker ANo, I didn't say it.
Speaker AAt higher standard podcast dot com.
Speaker BWow.
Speaker BFirst of all, hold on.
Speaker BThat's not calling him stupid.
Speaker BThat's saying that you did not do a good enough job articulating what it's capable of doing.
Speaker AI'm sorry.
Speaker AI broke down quantum computing in an hour long podcast episode.
Speaker BThat's impressive.
Speaker BWhat were you doing over here, Chief comedic relief.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AWasn't very funny.
Speaker BI know it's hard.
Speaker BWhen you were taming down the show.
Speaker AHow do you do a quantum computer joke?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo you can be two teleporting at one time.
Speaker AIf you could teleport to the bathroom.
Speaker BWhile still being here.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BDoing the show.
Speaker AYou don't want that.
Speaker ADoes it smell here?
Speaker AIf it's over there.
Speaker BThat's the.
Speaker AI mean, I don't know.
Speaker BThat's the thing, Right?
Speaker BIf you could.
Speaker BIf they can crack that code, then game over.
Speaker AI have something to say, but I'm not going to.
Speaker AI'm going to refrain because I'm a bigger man than you.
Speaker BMore ways than one.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker BGot anything else?
Speaker ANope.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker BGood night, everybody.
Speaker AOr good night, everybody again.
Speaker AQuantum computing.
Speaker AIt's parallel universes.
Speaker BDid you hear that already?
Speaker AQubits.
Speaker BMaybe you heard it.
Speaker ADid anybody else think about Qbert during this episode?
Speaker ABecause I did a lot.