When you really want to understand a city, you eat where the locals eat.
Speaker AAnd in Orlando, that starts with the Mills 50 district.
Speaker AIn this episode of Travel and 10, we're going to be taking a walking tour of the Mills 50 district and the Mills Market with local food blogger Ricky Lee from Tasty Chomps, digging into the flavors, the stories, the small spots that really define one of Orlando's most exciting food neighborhoods.
Speaker AAnd just when you think the tour is over, we're going to take a bit of an unexpected turn inside an Orlando Magic game for a surprising and unique culinary experience that proves great food shows up in all kinds of places, from street level eats to arena dining.
Speaker AThis is Orlando one bite at a time.
Speaker BSo this used to be a traditional Vietnamese market up until last year.
Speaker BYes, last year or so.
Speaker CLike a market?
Speaker BLike a market, yes.
Speaker BThere's still some elements of it around you guys can walk around and explore.
Speaker BBut yeah, up until last year, they just had their one year anniversary.
Speaker DYes.
Speaker BWe'll head over to.
Speaker BBut we're gonna head over to Banh Mi Boy.
Speaker BNice.
Speaker BOkay, thank you.
Speaker BThe French dip is pretty good, which is like.
Speaker BLike a fall on a bun.
Speaker BMi.
Speaker BThe French.
Speaker BYeah, the French dip.
Speaker BYou guys want to try the French dip?
Speaker BThe puff club dip?
Speaker BAll right, let's try it.
Speaker BAnd this is actually like a side project of Sorakara, which is a two star Michelin restaurant in Ballen Park.
Speaker BThis is the one that they have the Bibraman.
Speaker BSo, but the chef.
Speaker BI don't see Chef William here, but they have their team here, so.
Speaker BSo this is actually a dessert thing here that they got.
Speaker BThis is the.
Speaker BThey just opened a. Whoops.
Speaker BJapanese beef.
Speaker BJapanese beef curry.
Speaker BSo Chef William, he's not here today, but he is actually Japanese and Taiwanese descent, and he lived in Japan for many years, and now he runs Sorakara, which is the.
Speaker BThe second two Michelin star restaurant in Florida.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BOkay, this is a good one.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker DAnd that's.
Speaker BAnd uni girl is their concept.
Speaker BIt's one of their concepts.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd apparently so is this place.
Speaker BSo we have.
Speaker BWe.
Speaker BWe got.
Speaker BYeah, you guys get to try out your first dish here?
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThis is the beef curry.
Speaker BSo thank you.
Speaker BSo I came to Orlando in 2003 to go to UCF, which is the University of Central Florida.
Speaker BI was born and raised in West Palm Beach.
Speaker BMy mom was a boat refugee from Vietnam and my dad was also a refugee, but not a boat.
Speaker BHe came by plane.
Speaker BAnd so they met in West Palm Beach.
Speaker BOoh, look at this.
Speaker BLook at this beautiful curry here, there's a cheese croquette on the middle.
Speaker BSo let me take a picture real quick.
Speaker BLooks so good.
Speaker BYeah, let me, let me make you guys a plate real quick.
Speaker BYeah, but, yeah, so while I was at ucf, I actually wrote for the UCF newspaper and as like a food critic.
Speaker BAnd then I'm actually an engineer by day, so.
Speaker BSo that's my day job.
Speaker BAnd.
Speaker BAnd so, so I started my blog after I graduated.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BSo, so if you have the Netflix, there's a show called Somebody Feed Phil and.
Speaker BAnd they did a Orlando episode a couple months ago.
Speaker BA couple years ago.
Speaker BLast year, I think it was last year.
Speaker BAnd I'm actually in it.
Speaker BAnd we actually walked through this market.
Speaker BSo you'll see what it was before they develop, redeveloped it, I guess.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BSo it was just a grocery market essentially at that point.
Speaker BYes, it was serious.
Speaker BHave some potato cheese croquette here.
Speaker BSave some for Amy.
Speaker BWoohoo.
Speaker BThis cheese.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker CSo this is Japanese curry we're doing now.
Speaker BJapanese curry.
Speaker BSo which itself was influenced from, you know, immigrants and other folks around.
Speaker BThis was like a supermarket before.
Speaker BOh.
Speaker BSo the owners were getting ready to retire, so they're like, hey, what are we going to do?
Speaker BAnd the opportunity came up.
Speaker BObviously Cecilia's husband is a great mastermind at it and a lot of the concepts were developed by them with Chef William.
Speaker BBunny boy was actually here before as part of the market and so they kind of stayed.
Speaker DOkay.
Speaker BSo Kai.
Speaker BKai is actually was a like a food truck kind of like pop up concept from Chef Jerry.
Speaker BSo he opened up here, the opportunity came.
Speaker BSo that's a great thing about Orlando.
Speaker BThere's a lot of collaboration and, you know, working together and stuff to, to make new things.
Speaker BSo it's great.
Speaker CYeah, for sure.
Speaker EYou wanted to bring it over.
Speaker BAll right.
Speaker BOh God.
Speaker BSo you gotta talk to Elvis here.
Speaker BSo my first name was Elvis too, growing up.
Speaker BSo this is the second Elvis I ever met.
Speaker BLike in all Vietnamese Elvis though.
Speaker CWas Elvis very popular in.
Speaker BNot at all, no.
Speaker DBut I think, I think it mostly has to do with, you know, when you immigrate over to America, you're looking for like the most American Express.
Speaker CMost of you, you fit in.
Speaker DThat's how I see it.
Speaker BSo tell us about yourself and you know, about the market for basically.
Speaker DOh yeah, yeah.
Speaker DBorn in 97 and basically I, I used to come here and I grew up on this block.
Speaker DSeen it change over the years so drastically and I love it, you know, running over here to go see my grandparents While they were running the grocery store, running back over to my parents place just to, you know, sleep underneath the cash register during, you know, rush hour.
Speaker DJust because, you know, I get tired after school.
Speaker DYeah, sure, yeah, I come here after school and I grab a meal and then I'd run around a little bit and I'd go take a nap underneath the cash register.
Speaker DAnd that, that would typically be my day is just, you know, school and then right onto the family business and.
Speaker DYeah, I love it.
Speaker DIt's such, this, this area, it's growing so rapidly and it's complete night and day to what I remember it used to be.
Speaker DAnd it's phenomenal.
Speaker DI, I love it here.
Speaker DThe community is growing stronger.
Speaker DIt's not just, you know, Asian people enjoying Asian food, but it's just, it's a, it's all, it's all kinds of people, all walks of life coming together.
Speaker DAnd I'm happy that everyone is also more open minded to trying new things as well.
Speaker DJust because that wasn't the case back then either.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker DYou know, now with social media and, you know, people more willing to try new things and just seeing the food for, you know, what it is and taking recommendations, it's, you know, it's really nice to see friends and families come together and just creating all these memories.
Speaker DAnd it's nice to see the walking culture picking up too.
Speaker DAs you know, people are walking around because Orlando used to be pretty much a driving center, but on these, you know, we have this little pocket here where you can park and then spend a few hours and you know, walk around and enjoy the weather.
Speaker DJust because it's, it's such a beautiful day.
Speaker DIt's always a beautiful day in Florida.
Speaker DI'm sure that's why we love it.
Speaker BOr your grandparents started the, this as.
Speaker AA grocery market zone.
Speaker DYes, back in the grocery stores.
Speaker B1981.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker B84.
Speaker DI remember as 86, but like I said, I wasn't born until 97, so my, my memory is not that great.
Speaker BYeah, in the 80s.
Speaker BSo in 1975, which this year is the 50th anniversary of the fall of Saigon, which is the beginning of the Vietnamese community.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BSo a couple years after they started market here and then it changed hands a couple times, I think probably, but his family held it as the longest.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker DYeah, it's an honor just, you know, seeing how when you see war and you come, you know, halfway across the world with no form of information and just, just a leak of faith.
Speaker DYou know, my grandparents, they just wanted to bring A piece of home with them and you know, have that sense of community again, you know, just because going to the market, it's not just a transaction of, you know, you buy groceries and you go home.
Speaker DNo, it's a common place for, you know, people to come together, meet to talk, to catch up with each other and just, it's just a nice, nice place.
Speaker DIt's just a nice founded place to just, you know, catch up with the community and just, you know, just to see everyone.
Speaker CAnd what was the impetus to move from being like a supermarket to being.
Speaker BFood hall like this?
Speaker DWell, in terms of on the business side of it, there's grocery stores everywhere.
Speaker DAnd now, now that we have, you know, Lotte Market, Hmart market, now you have Hmart.
Speaker DReally the big guys are coming short highs today.
Speaker DAnd this is for us, it's just, you know, the new generation, the older generation building Apple, us being the younger generation moving in, we just kind of, we want to keep our family roots and our traditions of having this be a common place for people to come get together, but do it in our own different way and just kind of pivot off of that and bring the community together and just make it the best way we can be.
Speaker DAnd like I said, it's not just, you know, Asian people doing Asian things, but it's the whole community, all of Orlando.
Speaker DI honestly think that when you come to Orlando, you must come to Mills50 because this is the real essence of Orlando.
Speaker DThis is, you know, real locals, real people and it's just, I love.
Speaker DIt's all walks of life and it's just, it's super diverse.
Speaker DIt's such a good time to be here right now.
Speaker BYeah, we're in for a treat because actually the sister, when a manager for Camille, which is the first Vietnamese American Michelin starred restaurant.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BShe's working at the jewelry store right now, so we can go say hi to her.
Speaker BAnd Cecilia, her brother Chef Tungsten actually worked at Victoria and Alberts at Disney for like over a year before he opened his own restaurant.
Speaker BAnd so he learned a lot of the techniques and refined his craft before he opened up Camille, which is a Vietnamese American concept.
Speaker BSo we'll head over there and say hi to them and we'll head on out.
Speaker EOkay, perfect.
Speaker EYes.
Speaker EWell, welcome to Mills Market.
Speaker EThis just used to be a supermarket store called Binhung and owned and operated by Cecilia's parents.
Speaker EAnd this truly store was kind of a staple piece in the Orlando area, especially with Mills 50 and now Cecilia here is taking over and kind of staying true to her roots, but also elevating and revamping it to a little bit more modern.
Speaker ESo she's undergoing renovation for the next few months and kind of turning it into From Thin Ho into Carrots by Kim and Mills Market has turned into this food hub that brings everyone together, you know, from all over the state.
Speaker EAnd also seeing that other people from other neighboring states are coming down and being able to see the support and the love for this culture is quite amazing.
Speaker EYes.
Speaker ECamille is a Vietnamese inspired tasting menu.
Speaker EChef Tung is a chef and owner and concept Camille and he takes the traditional flavors of Vietnamese cuisine that he grew up with, but elevating it and enhancing it with progressive and modern takes, not only utilizing the.
Speaker EThe history of Vietnam due to the colonization, but also the French cooking techniques and kind of putting that all together and just elevating it now, which is quite fascinating to see.
Speaker DAnd where's that?
Speaker EYeah, that's located in Baldwin Park.
Speaker DIt's a one star Michelin.
Speaker EIt's a one star.
Speaker EYeah, that is correct.
Speaker EYes.
Speaker DIn America.
Speaker BIn America.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker ATough to get in.
Speaker EYes.
Speaker EYou know, we've recently we've adjusted our reservations and so we are open for three days.
Speaker EAnd so with that being said, all of the reservations are consolidated into those three days.
Speaker ESo depending on your party size, we do get booked out pretty quickly.
Speaker BAnd is it just a tasting that year?
Speaker EA tasting menu?
Speaker ECorrect.
Speaker DWhich is the tasting menu.
Speaker EWe have our Camille dining room experience, which is 175, and our signature chef's counter experience, which is what we're known for, is 195.
Speaker CAnd is there a large.
Speaker CHas there always been a large Vietnamese community in Orlando?
Speaker CIt's surprising to find such a Bazoule.
Speaker CI mean, I know it's not all Vietnamese food, but I guess it's quite a large.
Speaker BAn Asian Vietnamese community since the 80s, really.
Speaker BYou know, the flagship's been the market, you know, with Sihang and Dong Na and a bunch of other markets.
Speaker BThen slowly they have more restaurants like, and other businesses pop up over time.
Speaker BAnd then now there's Filipino restaurants, Chinese restaurants, Korean restaurants, all in all over communities, more Pan Asian.
Speaker BBut the core definitely Vietnamese.
Speaker BBut the area is actually more than just Asian.
Speaker BYou know, there's like LGBT bar and you know, different other places too, that arts and stuff all.
Speaker BSo it's very inclusive and very dangerous.
Speaker EYes, it certainly has diversified and I think that's the reason why there's a transition between calling it Little Vietnam, little Saigon into Mills 50 to be more inclusive and.
Speaker EYeah, and highlighting different types of cuisines, more than just Vietnamese.
Speaker ASo as you can hear, there really are no shortage of things to see and do in the Mills district.
Speaker AAnd the Mills Market is really a highlight.
Speaker AAll these different food concepts brought together in a Pan Asian food hall.
Speaker ABut then as you go out and walk the local neighborhoods surrounding it, you're going to find all kinds of cool things.
Speaker ABars, restaurants, new concepts popping up all the time.
Speaker AAnd definitely one of the highlights of the food scene in Orlando.
Speaker AAnd four foodies, an area that you're really going to want to spend some time and check out.
Speaker AWe've now done a series of episodes over the last couple of months, really looking at where to stay in Orlando, all kinds of undiscovered things in the region.
Speaker ASo if you are planning a trip, I would encourage you to go back and look at the back catalog and some of our episodes over the last couple of months.
Speaker AAnd just last week we had another episode looking at the East End Market, which was another great food hub in the city.
Speaker AA dynamic emerging food destination.
Speaker AI think one of the most interesting emerging food destinations anywhere in the US They've had multiple Michelin concepts come out of there.
Speaker AIt was a great spot and somewhere we really enjoyed in addition to Mills Market.
Speaker ABut we're going to finish off today where Tim and I actually started our trip to Orlando, which is a very unique food experience right at center court, overlooking an NBA game, some time we spent at an Orlando Magic game, and some of our food experiences there.
Speaker FWe're at Ikea center watching the Bulls versus the Orlando Magic.
Speaker FIt's getting down to the final.
Speaker FWe're in the fourth quarter here, seven minutes left.
Speaker CAnd it's been a.
Speaker CIt's been a fantastic experience sitting in an area called Jernigan's, which is a place where you can have a full dinner, drinks.
Speaker CWe're sitting in an area called the Ledge, which has great unimpeded views of the whole arena.
Speaker CAnd I gotta say, you know, the game's been fantastic.
Speaker CThe atmosphere has been really, really good.
Speaker CMaybe my favorite thing so far, the hot dogs.
Speaker BThat's right.
Speaker BI enjoyed the.
Speaker CI'm a hot dog man.
Speaker FWell, if you get the tickets here in the Ledge.
Speaker FWell, a, you've got a great view from up here, so great seats.
Speaker FBut you also get unlimited beer and wine.
Speaker BUnlimited hot dogs.
Speaker CYou know, there's.
Speaker CThere's definitely.
Speaker CThere's beef and chicken.
Speaker CThere's lots and lots of desserts, a really beautiful Caesar salad that I enjoy very much.
Speaker CAnd yeah, so you get to Be a part of the game, have an upscale dinner, have a few glasses of wine and just, and just enjoy the game day at the.
Speaker FThis be a great thing.
Speaker FI think somebody's coming down for.
Speaker FYou know, you're coming down with family, maybe going to the theme parks for a week.
Speaker AYou want to do something a little.
Speaker CDifferent for a night.
Speaker FYour first night in town, maybe your.
Speaker CLast night in town.
Speaker FWe were both saying downtown here you have quite a bit like a lot walking distance here of the kiosk center.
Speaker FA lot of good restaurants, a lot.
Speaker DOf good bars, and still a little.
Speaker CBit early and went to this kind of fan zone experience where you could go and shoot baskets and your different booths where you could enjoy different aspects of basketball.
Speaker CSo that was kind of cool.
Speaker CEverybody was decked out in their Romando Magic gear.
Speaker CBut right now we got.
Speaker CWhat does he play?
Speaker C9 points.
Speaker CPressing 6 minutes left, 6 minutes left to go.
Speaker CSo go Magic.
Speaker BGo Magic.
Speaker FWell, maybe we should talk a bit about where we're staying as well.
Speaker FIt's only a short, short walking distance here from the Kia Center.
Speaker CThe, the Grand Bohemian.
Speaker CYes.
Speaker CYeah, it's a Marriott.
Speaker CA Marriott property.
Speaker CI think my biggest surprise, I've been to Orlando, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say 18 times.
Speaker CI have not spent any time in downtown Orlando and that's been the biggest surprise for me is that staying in the hotel, centrally located, lovely rooms, beautiful views, and then walking distance to a number of bars, restaurants.
Speaker CIt really does have that urban or density that you may not expect in a city like Orlando that's known mainly for its, the art so for being a large red out city.
Speaker FSo I've been here just a little over 24 hours.
Speaker CI have had a chance to explore and walk around the downtown area and have been very, very pleasantly surprised by.
Speaker BEverything that I've done.
Speaker FAnd the hotel's got a beautiful sort of rooftop cabana pool area.
Speaker BI saw, hoping we could check that.
Speaker FOut a bit tomorrow.
Speaker BAnd I can say because I arrived.
Speaker FLate, you could make it from your suites to the Kia center in about eight minutes.
Speaker BWalk on foot.
Speaker CSo and that's the most part, I think park the car, walk to the game.
Speaker DI believe the Magic are gonna shoot.
Speaker CA couple of foul shots your babies, which is what the cheering is, Jan.
Speaker CBut yeah, park the car, enjoy your dinner, enjoy your evening and then walk home in less than 10 minutes.
Speaker CNo need for traffic jams or anything like that.
Speaker ASo we hope you found this overview of Orlando's culinary scene and the last two episodes of Travel in 10 helpful and certainly if you've got a trip coming up, encourage you to really go beyond the theme parks, explore a bit deeper.
Speaker AAnd a great resource to do that is over@Visitorlando.com they've got a great trip planner where free of charge they will actually help you plan out your trip and really gear it towards your interest.
Speaker ASo that's a great resource that I would highly recommend.
Speaker AAnd as you can hear there is a lot to dig into here in the city, a really dynamic food scene, a ton of Michelin starred restaurants, cuisine from all around the world and certainly was a bit unexpected on our trip and something I would encourage our listeners to really take the time to dig into if you're going to go tour the area.
Speaker AI also really want to thank Visit Orlando for their help with producing some of these episodes.
Speaker AWe've had a chance to do a few episodes over the last couple of months about Orlando and a big shout out to them for the help that they provided in producing some of that content.
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