The IDGAF of midlife is not underrated. Yes.

We are giving so much fewer Fs than we ever did before, right?

Mm. It was a shoot for Vogue in Times Square in July, and it was so hot that I threw up and passed out in the middle of Times Square. Thank God it was before cell phones. No one has a bad picture of that.

We got away with so much before cell phones, didn't we? We just like to end the episode with a little fun game. Just a couple questions. It's really fun, and it's just kind of going through, you know, like, your experience and just say the first thing that comes to mind.

You got it.

Okay. Who had the best energy on a modeling set? Who do you think, like, had the

best on a modeling set? There's so many different characters. Let me see the best energy on a modeling set. Tyra Banks.

Oh, really? Tyra? Was it just like, her personality and just.

She has a fabulous personality. She's so much fun. She's such a great girl.

How fun. Okay. The most glamorous job you ever booked

doing a fashion show for Princess Caroline of Monaco and her friends in Karl Lagerfeld's apartment in the Rockabella in Monaco.

Stop. Wow. That must have been. Is it one of those moments where you're just kind of like, I can't believe I'm here, or are you just taking me?

It still almost doesn't feel real.

I mean, that's like royalty, basically. I mean, hello. That's amazing. What was the least glamorous modeling moment? No one would ever believe.

Oh, there were so many. Let's see. Thank God it was at a time before cell phones. But let's see. It was a shoot for Vogue in Times Square in July wearing, if you've ever seen, Unzipped the outfit that I was wearing that had the. That. That had the thighs, that had the thigh high suede boots and the kind of lamb fur strapless dress. I was wearing it in Times Square for a Vogue shoot in July, and it was so hot that I threw up and passed out in the middle of Times Square.

No, you didn't.

It was over 100 degrees.

Oh, my God. And in fur and suede. Yeah, that's.

Thank God it was before cell phones. No one has a bad picture of that.

We got away with so much before cell phones, didn't we? A lot?

We sure did. Yes.

A beauty rule that you completely ignore now.

Not completely ignore, but I have to say, sometimes I do go to sleep with my makeup on.

You do not you do sometimes.

You do Sometimes.

How does your skin look so good then?

I don't do it all the time.

Okay. Just, like, once in a while. Okay. Okay. A moment. You felt truly powerful in your career.

When I signed my Revlon contract in 1992 and I knew where my money was coming from for the next four years. Wow.

Did you know it was going to be that culturally impactful at the time when you did? Okay, that was. Yeah. That was huge. That was huge. Who were you always genuinely happy to see at a shoot or an event? Like, were there certain girls or, you know, know, friends?

Pat Cleveland. Pat Cleveland.

Iconic. Iconic, for sure.

Yes.

And something about midlife that is way more fun than your younger years.

The IDGAF of midlife is not underrated. Yes.

We are giving so much fewer Fs than we ever did before, right?

Less than zero.

Less than zero.

100%.

Okay. That was so much fun. I love that we got to play that game. And I cannot wait for everyone to listen. Please go back and listen to Tuesday's episode because we really talk a lot about love and life and career and all the amazing things and just hope you have enjoyed.

See you next time.