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Speaker AAdam, how have you been?
Speaker AIt's been a couple of weeks.
Speaker BGood, man.
Speaker BThis weather's been absolutely terrible.
Speaker BI think both of us got sick in, like, last month.
Speaker BBut it is what it is.
Speaker BSo the winter, you know, fun stuff.
Speaker AYou know, you can probably hear it in.
Speaker AIn my little bit.
Speaker BNot too bad.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AI mean, I'm one of those people, though, that once I start coughing, it's gonna just kill my voice.
Speaker BI was surprised when I saw you, too.
Speaker BI was like, oh, I wonder if he's gonna be all congested.
Speaker BYou sound a lot better, man.
Speaker AWell, that's good.
Speaker AThat's definitely good.
Speaker AIf my mom were listening, she'd be like, oh, John, I still hear a little bit of the cold, but that's okay.
Speaker AThat's all right.
Speaker AIt's just the remnants of losing my voice, and I was as hoarse as could be.
Speaker BOh, dude.
Speaker BEverybody was sick at work, too, so.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AWell, stay safe out there, ladies and gentlemen, and we're glad you're listening.
Speaker ASo let's dive in.
Speaker AA couple of the New York Times ran a story, and it was all over the news.
Speaker AIn fact, it was all over my news feed.
Speaker AIt Was on Instagram.
Speaker AIt was all over the place.
Speaker BYeah, we talked about it at breakfast today.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASo they.
Speaker AThey actually found this discovery two years ago, Two and a half years ago, but did not release it until just a few days ago.
Speaker BIn.
Speaker AIn the news.
Speaker AIt was released that the Egyptian Ministry of Tourism and antiquities confirmed in 2020.
Speaker A24, 2025 excavation season that they actually found the first tomb, the first royal tomb near the Valley of the Kings since 1922.
Speaker CBeen a while.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BIt's crazy.
Speaker ACompletely amazing.
Speaker BAnd they found so many there in this, you know, like, pretty much 100 years later, you know?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AI mean, I read somewhere that they had dug over 80 different tombs in that particular area, but none of them were of a king or queen.
Speaker AAnd then they found this one, and it was the.
Speaker AThe tomb of Thutmose ii, whose wife.
Speaker AI can't say.
Speaker BThis.
Speaker AHat shape.
Speaker AHat shape.
Speaker BSomething like that.
Speaker AHat sept.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker BThat's a tough one.
Speaker AShe was the queen.
Speaker AI did read that she was the queen.
Speaker AHe was the king.
Speaker ABut she was really the pharaoh in charge and one of the most successful female pharaohs.
Speaker AAnd his burial was actually moved.
Speaker AIt was in this Valley of the Kings, but it was behind a waterfall and there was some flooding in antiquity.
Speaker ASo they actually broke into it to preserve it.
Speaker AAnd they moved it to a different location.
Speaker ABecause his body has actually been in the Egyptian museum for quite a long time.
Speaker ALike 80 years.
Speaker CWow.
Speaker ASo they found it a long time ago, but they didn't actually find the original location.
Speaker BGot you.
Speaker AUntil done.
Speaker A2,022.
Speaker BThat's awesome.
Speaker BYeah, that's pretty cool.
Speaker AWhat I read was that the.
Speaker AThe way that they knew that this particular tomb was in fact, the tomb of a king was because the ceiling was a blue and had gold stars.
Speaker BKnew it had something to do with the colors.
Speaker AIt was.
Speaker CYeah, it.
Speaker AIt.
Speaker AThis particular painting was unique to the kings.
Speaker ALike, only the kings were allowed to have this thing.
Speaker BThey knew right away then.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASo when they got in there.
Speaker AAnd not only that, then there were fragments of alabaster jars and whatnot that were found.
Speaker BYeah, they found quite a few artifacts.
Speaker AThere at the site, too, Which, I mean, honestly, pretty.
Speaker APretty amazing.
Speaker ABut they.
Speaker AI guess they thought originally that the tomb was of a royal wife.
Speaker ABut then these fragments of the alabaster jars are what actually identified it as the second.
Speaker BGotcha.
Speaker AAnd, you know, if you.
Speaker AIf you Google some of this stuff, you're gonna find some interesting wrinkles to this story.
Speaker AFirst of all, his wife was also his half Sister.
Speaker ASo, you know, a little game of thrones kind of action going on.
Speaker BLittle.
Speaker ABut.
Speaker ABut I guess, you know, she was pretty successful as a female pharaoh.
Speaker ABut he, you know, his reign, some think that he was king only for like, less than five years.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AAnd then after.
Speaker BNot a long time.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AThen after that, I guess, grand scheme of all.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BWhich I got you.
Speaker AWhich is pretty, pretty wild.
Speaker ABut, you know, I mean, a lot of turmoil back in the day, I guess.
Speaker AAnd I guess the.
Speaker AThe tomb, just the fact that it.
Speaker AIt, you know, had been laying undiscovered.
Speaker AIt was actually pretty big to be undiscovered for so long.
Speaker A95ft long.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BThat's pretty good size.
Speaker AAnd has a 17 by 17 by 11 burial chamber.
Speaker BInteresting numbers right there.
Speaker B17 by 17 by 11.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AAnd I guess again, this color, blue and yellow star motifs is really what tipped them off to it being the royal thing.
Speaker AAnd I guess they suspect that it was flooded not long after he was first buried there.
Speaker ASo they went in body engraved goods all moved to a different location, like, because the site was just like, poorly chosen.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BIt was right by that water.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AThere's like two waterfalls, I guess, real near there.
Speaker AAnd then it just.
Speaker AThe.
Speaker AI guess the 18th Dynasty had wetter weather than prior and.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker ALater.
Speaker AAnd so it was all.
Speaker AIt was just really not.
Speaker ANot so good.
Speaker ABut actually, Thutmose's mummified remains were discovered in 1881.
Speaker CWow.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AAlong with a couple of other pharaohs, actually.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker ASo it's actually housed now at the national museum of Egyptian civilization.
Speaker AAnd I guess there's some.
Speaker ASome folks who are still kind of surprised and maybe thinking, like, maybe this wasn't a royal tomb.
Speaker ABut, you know, I. I read that the ministry of culture, you know.
Speaker AMr. You know, the famous, famous ones.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BHan Swari.
Speaker CYes.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BThat guy.
Speaker BEgyptian.
Speaker BHe's like the primary Egyptologist.
Speaker AYes, the.
Speaker AThe very famous one who is like.
Speaker CYeah, the.
Speaker AThe leader of.
Speaker AOf it all over there.
Speaker AHe.
Speaker AHe was convinced that this was in fact Thutmose ii.
Speaker BOh, so he even.
Speaker BHe even put his little.
Speaker BLittle signature on there too, did he?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AZahi Hawass.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CThat guy.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AHe's become quite famous as the.
Speaker BOh, yeah, he's super popular now.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BHe's on all the Discovery stuff.
Speaker BAnything on Discovery Channel?
Speaker BNobody.
Speaker BHe had some Netflix documentaries.
Speaker BSo it has to do with Egypt.
Speaker BThat dude's going to be there.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AYou know, we should put him on our list of.
Speaker AOf guests.
Speaker ALike our.
Speaker AWe're going to reach you know, I mean, we could put Taylor Swift on there too.
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker AI don't know that she'll be there.
Speaker BBut I'm not going to get into it.
Speaker AI bet, I bet he could.
Speaker AYou know, he might, he, he might be bored.
Speaker AHe's 77.
Speaker AWhat else has he got to do?
Speaker BOh, he's just hanging out at his brand new Egyptian museum over there too.
Speaker CSo.
Speaker AAll right, ladies and gentlemen, moving on from Egypt.
Speaker BOh, I'll do this one right.
Speaker AYeah, this is a good one.
Speaker AThis is good.
Speaker BThis is all right.
Speaker BSo the title, when was this?
Speaker BThis wasn't too long ago.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AJust released the new, we're talking days ago, the news came out.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThe article title is Oldest section of China's Great Wall Discovered Pushing Back its origin by 300 years.
Speaker BI think there is, I mean, I don't know the exact date, but what, what this is pretty much talking about is they found a different part.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BLower.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASo actually what we're saying here is the Western Zoo Dynasty was 1046 B.C.
Speaker BTo 771 B.C.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CWow.
Speaker AAnd so this groundbreaking discovery pushes the, the date back of the building of the wall 300 years.
Speaker AThey, I guess thought that it was more in the 700 to 400 BC era, but.
Speaker BDo you think it's older than that, John?
Speaker AWell, that's what, that's what they're saying.
Speaker AI mean, I'm not there, but I'm going to go with the archeologists who believe that.
Speaker AYes, indeed.
Speaker AThis is.
Speaker BSo it's definitely old.
Speaker AYeah, it's pretty old.
Speaker AI mean, I think it's really cool that they're, that they're still out there analyzing things, doing soil samples, doing plant samples.
Speaker BShould be though, you know.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI mean, it's a UNESCO World Heritage site, so isn't it one of the.
Speaker BSeven wonders of the World?
Speaker AYes, Although, you know, that list kind of.
Speaker BDoes it change?
Speaker BYeah, but I mean it certainly doesn't get updated that often either, right?
Speaker ANo, but I think, I think it's, I think it's an important list.
Speaker AI think this one's on there for sure.
Speaker ABut I mean who, who could have predicted that they would find something that would say that it's actually 300 years older?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AThen, you know, that's crazy.
Speaker AThat's pretty significant.
Speaker BYeah, that's pretty cool.
Speaker AYeah, it's interesting to note that they're, they're still sort of learning the construction techniques along with, you know, what, what wars were going on at the, at the time.
Speaker AAll that Kind of stuff that pays.
Speaker AIt just plays into the whole history of it, which is really kind of cool.
Speaker BI mean, it's amazing.
Speaker BLike, just the whole structure of it, where it's placed.
Speaker BIt's humongous.
Speaker AYeah, I know.
Speaker ACan you imagine?
Speaker AI can't even.
Speaker AThat's.
Speaker BThat'd be something cool to visit.
Speaker BThat'd be a bucket list thing.
Speaker AAbsolutely.
Speaker AGreat.
Speaker BWall of China.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AWell, we're making lists here.
Speaker ASo, Zahi, we're going to invite him on the podcast.
Speaker BI'm 50.
Speaker B50 on Zahi.
Speaker AI think it would be great.
Speaker AWe could do a zoom call with him, you know, and I mean, he speaks pretty good English, so he wouldn't need to translate.
Speaker BYeah, he's not going to like what I found in the park, so.
Speaker COh, really?
Speaker AWell, okay, let's not say anything bad about him on the podcast.
Speaker BI'm not talking bad about the guy.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BI'm not saying one bad thing about him.
Speaker BI don't know him.
Speaker CSo.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker AOldest.
Speaker AOldest section of the wall is older.
Speaker BJust got older.
Speaker AThat's pretty, pretty awesome.
Speaker ANow, listen, since we are just coming out of the winter and we're starting to see all the reports come out, I thought it would be important to kind of do a recap of the 2024 season.
Speaker ASo the most impactful archaeological discoveries of 2024.
Speaker BAnd this is not based on our opinion either.
Speaker BThis is what was.
Speaker BYeah, this is kind of put out as far as, like, there's one article of stating all these things, right?
Speaker COh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker AThere's.
Speaker AI mean, there's a number of different.
Speaker BArticles and a couple we've already talked about too.
Speaker AYeah, that's the thing.
Speaker AWe, we have covered a bunch already in.
Speaker AJust because we like to keep current.
Speaker AIf you're, if you're a fan of our show, we like to pull up current topics in archeology that are, you know, active digs that are adding to the world's knowledge.
Speaker AWe're discovering the lost treasures, bringing some magic back from.
Speaker AFrom long lost times.
Speaker ARight, right.
Speaker AAnd of course, we've already talked about some of these impactful discoveries.
Speaker AWe already talked about the, the scroll, the.
Speaker AFrom.
Speaker AFrom Julius Caesar's father in law's house in Pompeii, where some graduate students using AI technology were able to decipher words.
Speaker BThat's pretty cool.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AAnd it started with wrinkles on the page and then, you know, chemical analysis and then the analysis of the actual wrinkles and markings.
Speaker AAnd then combining that using AI technology, three different grad students pooled their work and ended up producing longer forms of the text.
Speaker ABut what it started with was one word, which was an ancient Latin word for purple.
Speaker AThat's right.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BI remember that now.
Speaker AAnd we talked about that on an episode here on the Lost Treasures.
Speaker AWe've talked about Pompeii, certainly.
Speaker AWe've talked about Italy.
Speaker AWe've talked China.
Speaker AWe've talked about coins.
Speaker AWe've talked about all sorts of stuff.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AAnd of course, there's a lot going.
Speaker BOn in 2024, actually.
Speaker AOh, absolutely.
Speaker CAnd we.
Speaker AWe did talk about Notre Dame.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker AThat was the.
Speaker BActually last episode we did, which will be out hopefully here tomorrow.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASo lots of artifacts came from the repair of the cathedral, which just since we last had an episode, actually they opened it up, which was magnificent unveiling.
Speaker AI mean, and I don't know if you saw any of the videos on 60 Minutes or whatever, but the clean white marble of that cathedral, I mean, they cleaned every square inch of that place.
Speaker AIt's unbelievable.
Speaker AI mean, it's like, brand new.
Speaker AIt could last another thousand years and.
Speaker AAnd be in great shape.
Speaker BI wonder how much they had to put into that.
Speaker AOh, a lot.
Speaker BOh, it had to be a lot.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker ABut one of the things.
Speaker BAnd we'll move on, like a specialty, too.
Speaker BYou have to find specialty people that know how to.
Speaker AThat's exactly what I was going to say.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker ASo the woodworking, they brought in folks who knew how to do the original work, which initially they thought they weren't sure that anyone even knew how to build things the way that they built it originally.
Speaker BThat's a good point.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker ASo they came in with craftsmen and wood and techniques that were used in the original build, and they brought them in and renovated the place and really did a fantastic job.
Speaker AIf you are on TikTok, go check it out.
Speaker AThere are so many videos out there.
Speaker AYou can get a real sense of the site and what it looks like now.
Speaker AIf you happen to be lucky enough to.
Speaker ATo go to Paris, you should definitely put that on your list.
Speaker BThat'd be like, top top three.
Speaker AI think that adds a.
Speaker AThat's our third bucket list item for this podcast.
Speaker BWe should have a dry erase board with bucket list stuff.
Speaker AYeah, definitely.
Speaker AAnd you watch.
Speaker AI'm gonna reach out to Mr. Hawass.
Speaker AIt's gonna be wild.
Speaker BHave to edit part of this.
Speaker ANow, the other thing.
Speaker AThe other thing in our list of impactful things that we already talked.
Speaker BHere we go back on task.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AThe jade.
Speaker AWe talked about them last time.
Speaker CYes.
Speaker ASo 5,000 year old jade artifacts connecting Inner Mongolia and early Chinese civilizations.
Speaker AWe beautiful talk about that.
Speaker ASo beautiful artifacts.
Speaker ABut some of the cool stuff that we did not talk about.
Speaker AFirst, a really interesting discovery right outside of a town.
Speaker AIt's in the Alm Medina province in Saudi Arabia.
Speaker AArchaeologists under an oasis, they found a city, an ancient fort city, a Bronze Age site of Al Nata in present day Saudi Arabia.
Speaker AI don't know if I'm pronouncing that right.
Speaker AIt was occupied from 2400 BC to 1500 BC and the ancient town apparently was constructed right around the time people were converting from nomadic cattle herding to like permanent settlements.
Speaker BGotcha.
Speaker AReally kind of interesting.
Speaker AAnd it looks like there were about 500 residents across about 3.7 acres.
Speaker AAnd that being like the center of the town if you will.
Speaker ANow I don't know if you recall this, but that 3 acres number, it reminds me of when you and I went.
Speaker AAnd those of you watching our TikTok live or listening to the podcast might have to scroll back to one of our earliest episodes where we went and visited one of the sites in North America where the earliest form of corn cultivation was found.
Speaker ARight here in Cincinnati, Ohio.
Speaker BLittle Miami River.
Speaker ALittle Miami River.
Speaker AYeah, that's right.
Speaker BThree different civilizations of people have been there.
Speaker AThe Ohio state super cool Dr. Robert Cook from Ohio State University leading that excavation.
Speaker AOf course there have been multiple excavations over the years, but really it wasn't that big of a site.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AIt was about three or four acres and they had so many, they had two different like villages over time that they knew kind of were there.
Speaker AAnd we were standing kind of on one of them when we visited live.
Speaker ABut it's just amazing to me that 500 residents could live in this Saudi Arabian.
Speaker ANot a huge area.
Speaker B3.7 acres isn't huge.
Speaker ANo, I mean think about it.
Speaker AIf you're in an average, you know, let's, let's say slightly above average middle class neighborhood, you're going to be on kind of a one acre lot.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker BOr half.
Speaker ASo like three, three houses of, of the one acre lot.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker AOr maybe six houses on half acre lots.
Speaker BIt's like barely, it's almost four.
Speaker BBut you know, that's not a, not a lot of land.
Speaker CIt's not.
Speaker ANo.
Speaker AI mean 4 acres is, it's not a lot.
Speaker ANo.
Speaker ATo.
Speaker AAnd to have 500 people living there.
Speaker AYeah, that's pretty wild.
Speaker CYeah, Crazy.
Speaker ASo anyway, metal weapons were found, axes and daggers, along with stones and stone tools.
Speaker AThere were grave goods and it looked like they had One to two story buildings, so some, some decent construction going on.
Speaker AAnd of course, this is just like an early urbanization effort, you know, and creating a fortified town in, in this area.
Speaker AIt is interesting that they found traces of spices, frankincense and myrrh.
Speaker BOh, they traded.
Speaker BYeah, they traded with people, right?
Speaker AYeah, so.
Speaker ASo they were clearly on a trade route with Southern Arabia and the Mediterranean, which is really pretty cool.
Speaker BI think it's pretty funny how people think that they didn't have the ability to move.
Speaker BLike, you know, you're just, oh, we find these random things from other places.
Speaker BWell, yeah, they're able to move around, trade.
Speaker BLike that stuff still happens.
Speaker ASure.
Speaker BMight have been a little harder, but at the same time it's not like that's an impossible theory.
Speaker BLike, oh yeah, these people like moved all over the place.
Speaker ATraded all over the place, of course, you know.
Speaker AWell, I mean, one thing that I think most people need to kind of keep in mind is that humanity from, from our mental standpoint.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker AHas been pretty much the same for the last five to 10,000 years.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker ASo it's not like, you know, like humanity changed.
Speaker AJust because technology has changed.
Speaker CNo.
Speaker ADoesn't mean society has changed that much.
Speaker BAgree.
Speaker ASo, you know, travel, as long as there's been horses, there's been travel.
Speaker BOr boats.
Speaker AYeah, horses, boats, camels.
Speaker BYeah, all that stuff.
Speaker ANow that's why this site is in the top finds of 2024.
Speaker BPretty cool though.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AAnd very, very impactful.
Speaker AThese are, these are things that are made the list because discussion of them will go on for a long time as far as how, how much they impact our understanding of early.
Speaker BSean, isn't there a couple of trains of thought to like an isolationist theory and a diffusionist theory where people are either moving around or they're staying in the same place?
Speaker AAs far as some civilizations go, I think that it.
Speaker AYeah, it depends on what part of the world that you're talking about.
Speaker BExactly.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker ABut talking about moving around, check this out.
Speaker ASo the next one on our list here is a 2000 year old temple from the Nabataean people.
Speaker ANow, keep in mind the Nabataeans were Middle Eastern.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker ANow their architecture is very well known.
Speaker AWe know who the Nabataeans were, we know about them, but we did not know that they actually were all the way over in Italy.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker ASo there was a temple using the Nabataean architecture and to the Nabataean gods that was found in a port city off the coast of Italy, which, you know, was A trading hub in the Mediterranean under the Romans.
Speaker ASo this is approximately a 2000 year old temple, meaning someone from the Nabataean culture came all the way over here to Italy in the Roman time period and built a temple to their home gods right here off the coast of Italy.
Speaker CYep.
Speaker AWhich is super cool.
Speaker BThat is.
Speaker AAnd I guess crazy.
Speaker BIt's submerged too.
Speaker AYeah, it, I mean, the port.
Speaker BHow much stuff is underwater?
Speaker AThe entire port is.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker APretty wild.
Speaker CI know.
Speaker ASo 2000 year old temple to the Nabataean God Tushara, the only example of its kind outside the Middle East.
Speaker ASo completely dubbed to what you were.
Speaker BSuper unique.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker ABut I mean they clearly 2000 years ago were moving, and not just moving around, but bringing their culture with them.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker ASuper cool.
Speaker BYeah, Right by the water too.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker ANow this one does contain inscriptions in Latin as well as Roman influences, clearly.
Speaker ABut measuring 32 by 16ft, the temple had two large rooms with marble altars decorated with sacred stones.
Speaker AAnd unfortunately, volcanic eruptions caused the port to sink into the ocean.
Speaker AAnd so there it is off the coast.
Speaker BThe Romans had conquered that part of the world at a certain point.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AWell, this was right south of Rome.
Speaker AI mean, Patuoli is the name of the town, so good luck on that one.
Speaker AYeah, just a little bit south of Rome.
Speaker BNo, that's sweet.
Speaker AYeah, so that's the, that's the modern, that's the modern name.
Speaker AThe port city as it was known was Puteoli.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker ASo during, during the Roman Republic.
Speaker BGotcha.
Speaker ABut then unfortunately, volcanoes.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AAs they got Pompeii and Herculaneum.
Speaker AThey got this one too, but they sold this one.
Speaker ASo now, next on our list.
Speaker BAwesome.
Speaker AYeah, yeah.
Speaker AI mean, back to Egypt.
Speaker AAnd again, we're, we're looking at some of the things that have come out in the last couple of years that are going to impact archeology for years.
Speaker ASo 11 sealed burial chambers in Luxor in 2020.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker ASo this is what they call the South Assassin necropolis.
Speaker AIt's next to the temple of Hatsheput.
Speaker BHatshepsut.
Speaker AHatshepsut.
Speaker AOn the western bank of the Nile river, of course.
Speaker AAnd archaeologists found coffins for men, women and children going all the way back to 19.
Speaker A1938 B.C.
Speaker BThat is a long time.
Speaker CWow.
Speaker ASo almost 2,000 years before.
Speaker AIt's almost 4,000 years ago.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker AAnd experts believed it was a family tomb for multiple generations from the 12th through the 13th Dynasty.
Speaker AAnd they were mostly wooden coffins and linen wraps.
Speaker AAnd of course there's, there's stuff Jewelry.
Speaker ABut they, they were able to.
Speaker AMost of the wooden coffins and linen wraps were destroyed by ancient floods, but they did find some.
Speaker AAnd then there was jewelry.
Speaker AJewelry, burials.
Speaker AAnd one well crafted necklace containing 30amethysts and two agate beads and a hippo head amulet and some copper mirrors.
Speaker AAll kinds of stuff.
Speaker ASome stuff dedicated to Haor, the goddess of the sky, women and fertility and love among ancient Egyptians.
Speaker BNice.
Speaker AAnd I guess these, these tombs were.
Speaker ABecause they were sealed and we just found them recently, they're opening up a whole world of discussion about what was going on at that period of time.
Speaker AAnd basically new discoveries happening in Egypt even to this day.
Speaker BThey'll keep happening.
Speaker AI mean, it's pretty, pretty incredible.
Speaker BI mean, it was a huge area too.
Speaker BAnd they're not going to find all the stuff that's buried.
Speaker BLike there's still more out there.
Speaker AWell, the other thing is, and we know this from talking about Pompeii, is that there are certain areas where they will not go because they know that it'll take too long for the burials, like the excavation season and because they don't have the technology or because it's too deep or because whatever.
Speaker ABut like Pompeii, they are slowly uncovering it, but they've left a ton of.
Speaker ABecause they want to make sure that future technology comes along and they're able to, to excavate and do it better.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker BFaster.
Speaker ABetter.
Speaker AFaster.
Speaker AYeah, Keep, you know, more, more preservation.
Speaker AI got that sort of stuff.
Speaker BI got you.
Speaker BSo that's smart.
Speaker AYeah, yeah, smart.
Speaker AI mean, they, they're really trying to preserve stuff for the future.
Speaker BI was gonna say, shouldn't like, most of what you're doing be to not only preserve it, but to identify where it is?
Speaker BLike if you know where it is and then you can come down the road and excavate it, you know, far more efficiently than we could probably right now.
Speaker AOh, yeah.
Speaker AI mean, to what?
Speaker AFinding it is half the battle.
Speaker AGetting it out of the ground and getting it in one piece and then learning from it, that's the whole.
Speaker AThat's a whole other.
Speaker BYep, another ball of wax.
Speaker ABut it's cool that 11 sealed burials were excavated in just, just these past couple years.
Speaker AAnd they're so impactful that they're like on the, the list of 2024's most.
Speaker AThat's important discoveries.
Speaker BThat's impressive.
Speaker AYeah, super cool.
Speaker ASo next on our list, let's, let's keep rolling.
Speaker BWhat do we got next, John?
Speaker AWe've got.
Speaker AOh, this is a good one.
Speaker ASo, so we were just talking about all the women stuff found in these Egyptian tombs.
Speaker ADecor in recently discovered rooms in Peru suggests the ancient Mochi society was female ruled.
Speaker CCool.
Speaker ASo a matriarchal society.
Speaker AAnd let's bring up some information on that one.
Speaker AI, I thought this was particularly cool and really does speak to, you know, right now we got some folks who clearly, clearly want to smash the patriarchy and, and I'm kind of with them.
Speaker ABut it's been done before, ladies.
Speaker AIt's been done before.
Speaker AAnd if you're watching on the tick tock, you know, ladies, get out there, you can do it.
Speaker ASo pulling this up, the archaeological site that was once a religious and political center of the ancient Mochi culture dates back to 650 CE.
Speaker ASo 650, which those murals are cool.
Speaker BYeah, a lot of different colors.
Speaker AI mean Honestly, the 600s in Europe was sort of the dawn of the Dark Age ages.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker ANot a lot of like the, the Roman, Roman civilization had kind of fallen.
Speaker BDoesn't sound like fun.
Speaker ANo.
Speaker BDark Ages.
Speaker AI mean that's really.
Speaker AYeah, that's really what was.
Speaker BGot a horrible name.
Speaker AWell, lots of things.
Speaker APlagues.
Speaker BDoesn't like make anything sound good when it starts.
Speaker BDark Ages.
Speaker ANo Barbarians at the gate.
Speaker BSounds terrible.
Speaker AThe Fall of the Roman Empire.
Speaker AIf you have not checked it out, ladies and gentlemen, you should check out the rise and Fall of the Roman Empire.
Speaker BOh, is that good?
Speaker AYeah, it's, well it's, it's an old book, a set of books.
Speaker AIt's like an encyclopedia.
Speaker AI got you the Fall of the Roman Empire.
Speaker ABut for, for those of you listening, I'm a classics major and some of this stuff comes.
Speaker BJohn loves this stuff.
Speaker AMy college degree was literally to study ancient Rome, ancient Greece, Ancient Egypt, all of this stuff.
Speaker BThat's awesome.
Speaker AI love, love discussing this stuff.
Speaker ABut in 650 CE, all the way across in the new world, unbeknownst to those in the Dark ages was this female culture, which is super cool.
Speaker AAnd it is really very cool to see the artwork that is being discovered now in Peru.
Speaker AAnd there's, there's pictures of it online if you want to go check it out.
Speaker APanamarca is the name of the town and the ancient name was Mochi.
Speaker AThe ancient Mochi people.
Speaker AAnd so yeah, chambers found with serpents, paintings of serpents and images of warriors and mythical creatures.
Speaker ABut it is really interesting to show that a woman was seated on the throne while receiving visitors.
Speaker BThat's pretty cool.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BWhat was this?
Speaker BThis the art news.com is that the article, yes.
Speaker BOh, sorry.
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker AIt's all good.
Speaker AThere's lots of articles out there.
Speaker AYou can go see them.
Speaker ASo we do want to spread the word out there.
Speaker AThere's.
Speaker AThere's a lot of information out there.
Speaker AIf you're interested, we can put some of these links up in our website and social media.
Speaker ABut.
Speaker ABut yeah, speaking of which, the news articles that I'm pulling up are giving me troubles on the computer here as we go.
Speaker BThat's part of it, John.
Speaker BSo gotta be the navigator on the computer.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AWe've got quite a bit, though, that we can talk about.
Speaker ALet's just check our time here.
Speaker AWe're running a little low on time.
Speaker AOne of the last things I wanted to talk about, though, was that we're gonna jump back to the middle EAS and there is a calendar that was found that shows some of the earliest known calendars in the Fertile Crescent where they feel like civilization came from.
Speaker ASo experts identified a prehistoric calendar at.
Speaker AOh, I love this.
Speaker BGobekli Tepe.
Speaker BYeah, it's awesome.
Speaker AGo Beckley tepe.
Speaker BSo awesome.
Speaker ATurkey.
Speaker A12,000-year-old temple like complex.
Speaker BThis has been out for a while.
Speaker AIt has, but I don't think we've talked about it too much.
Speaker BNo, I don't think we have.
Speaker CNo.
Speaker ABut this one is important, right?
Speaker AAnd this is a good one to kind of wrap up our show on today.
Speaker AGobekli Tepe is.
Speaker AThere's so much written about it right now because it.
Speaker AIt's just been discovered in the past couple of years.
Speaker ARoughly 1312 to 13,000 years ago, this site was occupied.
Speaker AAnd the carvings that were developed there are recording comets that hit the Earth about 13,000 years ago.
Speaker AAnd the engravings on the monuments track moon phases and sun cycles, making this super accurate too.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AThe earliest known Luni Sal Looney solar calendar.
Speaker ASo it uses the moon and the sun to map out the.
Speaker BSounds pretty advanced to me.
Speaker APretty amazing.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker ASo the comet strike that they are documenting, though, brought.
Speaker AIt was so impactful on the earth, it brought a miniature ice age and it led to extinction of many large animals.
Speaker AAnd as that hit, humans were recording it because it was such a lifestyle change.
Speaker ASo they were changing the lifestyle from hunting and gathering to agriculture.
Speaker AAnd the birth of the civilization in the fertile crescent of West Asia is documented by some of these events in this calendar.
Speaker BSo cool.
Speaker AAnd it's 12,000-year-old.
Speaker BSuper cool.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AUnbelievable.
Speaker BThat's probably one of my favorites.
Speaker BAnd then there's another site close to that.
Speaker BKaren Tepe.
Speaker BWhich.
Speaker BIt's just in the same area, but it's another.
Speaker BLike, I don't.
Speaker BI think Karen Tepe is actually a little.
Speaker BThey haven't uncovered as much.
Speaker BA little bit newer, but, dude, go get.
Speaker BThis is.
Speaker BYeah, it's pretty awesome.
Speaker BAll the symbolism on all the monuments and stuff there.
Speaker BIt's pretty impressive.
Speaker CIt.
Speaker AIt truly is.
Speaker AIt's so neat to.
Speaker ATo know that there are folks that are dedicated to finding and preserving this history and bringing it out so that we can learn from.
Speaker BOh, there's still a ton they have to excavate, too.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BWe're just seeing, like, little bits and pieces.
Speaker BPieces right here.
Speaker AAnd honestly, Lost Treasures podcast is doing our best to give you an overview and a snapshot, but hopefully what we're doing is planting some seeds.
Speaker AFolks.
Speaker BSomething interesting to talk about, too.
Speaker BThat's different.
Speaker AGosh, for all the people out there, how many of you have been on a dating site?
Speaker AI don't know if you have, but I'm going to tell you right now, I have some friends who have gone on to dating websites.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd if you look at.
Speaker AIf you look at Hinge, if you're on Hinge, almost every profile of every person out there is saying, hey, I want to travel more.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AWell, now you've got some sites where you can actually go.
Speaker ASome.
Speaker BOh, that'd be so cool.
Speaker AThat'd definitely be.
Speaker BBucket list.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker BBucket list.
Speaker ABucket list.
Speaker AThere we.
Speaker BThere we go.
Speaker AWhat all have we talked about today?
Speaker BWe've talked about different things are on our bucket list.
Speaker ATurkey, southern Italy, Paris with the.
Speaker AWith Notre Dame being reopened, certainly Egypt and their Ministry of Culture and their museums.
Speaker AGosh.
Speaker AWhat else?
Speaker AChina and the Great Wall of China.
Speaker BThat Great Wall is so cool.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker ASo I think that should be in that top.
Speaker BLike, that should be one of the seven Wonders.
Speaker BThat thing's pretty amazing.
Speaker AI believe it is.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BWe'll have to talk about those sometime, too.
Speaker AWe should.
Speaker AWe should do a whole episode on the seven Wonders of the World, and which ones still are there?
Speaker BWhich ones are still pretty easy to go see.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AWell, ladies and gentlemen, we hope that we've brought a little bit of excitement and magic into your world.
Speaker AAnd thank you so much for tuning in.
Speaker AThis has been another episode of the Lost Treasures podcast.
Speaker AI'm John Scheele.
Speaker BI'm Adam Means.
Speaker AThanks for tuning in, folks.
Speaker AWe'll see you soon.
Speaker CSam.