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Welcome to Hip Hop Movie Club, the show

that harmonizes the rhythm of hip hop with

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the magic of movies.

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Today we're discussing Fear of a Black

Hat, a 90s mockumentary which spoofs

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several hip hop acts and the ideology of

the era.

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We're three old heads who put their old

heads together to vibe on these films for

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you.

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I'm Dyno Wright, podcaster, filmmaker,

longtime hip hop fan, and if I had to

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pick...

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Fear of a Black Planet is my go-to Public

Enemy album.

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I'm JB, 80s and 90s nostalgia junkie, long

time hip hop fan, and I'm the pinnacle.

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That means I reign supreme, I'm notorious,

I'll crush you like a jelly bean.

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a DJ, long time hip hop fan, and I

finally, after all these years, get to see

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Rakim and KRS-One in concert Friday night.

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In this episode, we'll answer the

question, is Fear of a Black Hat worth

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watching?

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And we'll give you five key takeaways to

make you a smarter hip-hop movie fan.

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Fear of a Black Hat is a 1993 film

satirizing some of the biggest hip hop

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acts of that era.

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It is replete with parody songs and wild

shenanigans.

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Here are five things you need to know

about Fear of a Black Hat.

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One, the movie spoofed several of the big

name hip hop acts from the late 80s and

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early 90s.

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Two, the movie is in a mockumentary format

and draws some comparisons to This is

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Spinal Tap.

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Three, the parody songs were pretty well

constructed and quite catchy.

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Four, there are a few side -splittingly

funny moments.

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And five, it's debatable whether the movie

holds up.

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All right, fellas, let us get into this

silly, silly movie called Fear of Black

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Hat.

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Boogie, wanna kick us off in terms of some

of the folks that this movie spoofs upon

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that were big names in that era of hip

hop.

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I give give few of them right off the bat

I noticed right away.

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So I say Public Enemy was one of the first

ones that stood out to me.

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I mean, you had the group dynamics.

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You had one character who's, you know,

like a Chuck D-ish type character, another

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guy who's kind of giving his ad -libs and

bouncing around kind of like Flavor Flav

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The name itself, NWH, is an easy callback

to NWA and also Eazy-E

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see a spoof of PM Dawn, LL Cool J and

Ice-T and there's some others.

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I'll let you guys chime in on some of

that.

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You're done, right?

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Do you want to add it to a few of those?

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One of them was Marky Mark and the Funky

Bunch.

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I think that was the other one.

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That was a big one.

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I thought I saw some elements of Digital

Underground, but I wasn't quite sure if I

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really saw it or not.

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But Boogie covered most of them, the ones

I noticed.

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I'll add a few as well.

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I mean, there was a cat called MC Slammer,

which is obviously Hammer.

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And then there's, he dropped the MC just

like Hammer did.

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Vanilla Sherbert instead of Vanilla Ice.

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got me laughing a little bit.

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And then they spoofed salt and pepper

where they had the four girls, Parsley,

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Sage, Rosemary and Thyme.

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Hey, and guess what?

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Foreshadowing, right?

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They were saying, we're more spices.

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And little did they know there would be an

act called the Spice Girls several years

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down the road, right?

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There were three.

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There was another thing where they did all

the guys with the name Ice, just as a

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joke, it was like ice tray, ice coffee.

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-hmm.

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a few others.

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And they even spoofed the big name

directors that we spoke about on our

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podcast, Spike Lee and John Singleton with

a guy named Jike Spingleton and New Mac

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Village, which was a spoof of New Jack

City.

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They showed a clip from that.

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So yeah, they didn't hold back and they

covered a lot of the big acts from that

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timeframe.

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So yeah.

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You're right, Boogie, it was like they did

play off of Public Enemy, but then also a

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lot of it was NWA and Larry B Scott's

character.

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I think he pulled it off pretty well.

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You would never realize he was the same

flamboyant guy Lamar from Revenge of the

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Nerds.

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He spoofed both Lamar, exactly, with the

javelin.

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I always think about that scene with the

javelin.

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man, when I was a...

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Tasty Taste was his name here.

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So he played a pretty convincing, you

know, gangster, Eazy-E style.

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was like an Eazy E meets flavor flav kind

of thing?

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Was interesting, yeah.

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So those were some of the key ones.

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We'll get into the parodies in a little

bit, but the songs, but the movie itself

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is done in a mockumentary format.

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It was like fake documentary, with a woman

named Nina Blackburn in the film following

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the crew around.

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And it drew some comparisons to this is

spinal tap.

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So DynoWright I think you had some notes

about Spinal Tap Like what do you think,

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for This is Spinal Tap, what are the basic

comparisons that you saw?

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Cause I know you were familiar with that

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So the basic one is there wasn't really

much of a plot in this movie and then you

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just sort of follow the band as they go

and their rise and fall.

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They had a lot of familiar things for

music acts like performing and inter band

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dynamics and politics.

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And so they have a Tasty Taste girlfriend

does this kind of like Yoko Ono ish kind

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of thing where she tries to split the band

up and...

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We can get into that later.

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But the other obvious one is that they go

through a lot of managers, like Spinal Tap

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went through a lot of drummers.

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So that was actually one of the funnier

things is that they weren't there when the

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managers died or got killed.

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It's kind of a funny take off on that.

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you want to talk a little bit more about

the mockumentary format and kind of how it

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was done?

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it kind of reminded me a little bit of CB4

too.

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With its, you know, over the top parody

of, gangster rap and also the way it was

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formatted, how to follow the band around

and kind of sort of where their beginnings

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were, how they rose up.

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But yeah, it was like when I first saw it,

I was like, you sound like a mockumentary

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of a mockumentary.

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Got different layers.

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I did think that the bit about all the

managers getting shot and killed, there

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was at least five or more and they were

all white and they were making some

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comments about, you know, we got to

protect the brothers.

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And they end up.

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couple were like, were Black and they

couldn't have that anymore.

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So they started having white managers as

like, cannon fodder.

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And then they ended up beating up the one

record company guy, John Liggert, I think

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was his name.

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It was just chaotic.

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They had a beef with a rival crew called

the Jam Boys.

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And in the midst of that scene, their

manager, Freisch, or Freisch, got killed

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with like a ricochet gunshot, I think.

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They did a spoof also on the whole racial

profiling aspect, which is done in a lot

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of these movies, which they made a joke

out of it where Scott's like, take your

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right hand, put it over your left hand,

but then twist at this angle and turn

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around.

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And it was kind of ridiculous, but that

was in there.

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That led into one of the parody songs,

which was F the security guards, which was

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a spoof on like F the police.

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the guy that used to deliver the MTV News,

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Kurt Loder was in this quite a bit too.

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Yeah, he did a good job.

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I just looked him up.

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Kurt Loder is still around.

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I think he's like in his late seventies.

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70s.

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And he has ties to New Jersey.

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I didn't, I never really looked up his

history.

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He, did a lot of work.

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He grew up in Ocean City, New Jersey in

that area.

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He went to high school there and he used

to write for like local publications there

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and he got into Rolling Stone.

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And then it was kind of happenstance that

he became a super well -known music

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journalist.

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So Kurt Loder was, was pretty funny in

that the way when he was interviewing

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these guys and his like.

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straight -laced voice.

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Yeah, one of the few things I liked about

the movie.

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Yeah, Kurt Loder.

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So I guess that's a good lead into then

the parody songs.

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I mentioned though the one about the

security guards, which was making fun of

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security guards wanting to be real cops.

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And it was F those guys too.

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But there were a handful of these

parodies.

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And I thought that the parody songs

actually were pretty well constructed and

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they were catchy.

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Like I think they did their homework and

they mimicked some of the beats from some

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of the originals.

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They took them directly, I think, some of

them.

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took directly.

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I don't know if they had the authority to

do that, but they did.

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Yeah, they definitely did their homework

when they put these songs together.

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Boogie, you want to talk a little bit

about some of the parody songs, kind of

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what they were mocking and about?

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Yes, they had the song called Grab Your

Stuff, which, well, they had to have a,

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since they comparing themselves somewhat

to NWA, the Grab Your Stuff song was the

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controversial song that was, I guess, in

line with F the Police that NWA put out

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where they were threatened that they could

not perform the song.

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But then they went out on...

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on stage and proceeded to perform it any

way and was arrested.

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There's a Guerillas in the Midst.

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The video shoot for that song had me

cracking up though.

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It was a parody of them trying to get the

choreographer to get them to do some dance

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steps.

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And it kind of reminded me of If It Isn't

Love by New Edition.

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And the choreographer was walking around

with a jockstrap.

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copy similar to

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Larry Blackman from Cameo.

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So that had me cracking up a little bit

too.

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But yeah, so then they had the F the

Security Guards, which we mentioned.

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A Gangster's Life Ain't Fun.

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Come Pet the P word.

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Just A Human Being which was like the PM

Dawn parody, which I'll let you guys kind

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of talk about a little bit too.

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And Granny Said, Kick Yo Ass, which is

kind of like a LL Cool J parody.

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And there was one more Booty Juice, which

was like a spoof on the booty rap.

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And they hooked up a tap to the booties

and I thought that was over the top and

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ridiculous.

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But yeah, they didn't leave any stone

unturned, I guess, with like who they were

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parodying.

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The Guerillas in the Midst song was a

little bit catchy.

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Some of the songs were catchy.

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The Come Pet the P sounded like you said,

sounded just like C &C Music Factory, like

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Gonna Make You Sweat.

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It was like pretty much the same.

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The one that had me rolling on the floor

laughing a little bit was the PM Dawn

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parody because the big guy, Tone Deaf.

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He went from like thug and then he became

almost reborn and very like Zen like and.

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a Prince Be the Nocturnal in this.

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Yeah, he was he was

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spoofing him directly.

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Human Formantics was the group, right?

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And then he, I was watching it with the

subtitles on, because I never want to miss

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a lyric or anything like that.

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And it was cracking me up because he was

talking about, we're all, I'm just a human

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being really in this mellow voice.

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And it had the same beat to Set Adrift on

Memory Bliss.

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And it was talking about we all pee

standing or sitting.

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And if you eat too many beans, you know,

you might get diarrhea, but.

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It's okay.

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I'm like, what is this song?

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But it had me cracking up.

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I had to go back and look it up on YouTube

and just chuckle a little bit more.

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So that one, I wasn't expecting that one.

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So it hit a nerve, a funny bone with me.

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DynoWright do you have any more takes on

the parodies songs.

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Yeah, they're okay.

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In general, I didn't really enjoy this

movie that much.

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On paper, it was funny.

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The jokes seemed like they would have been

funny, but then I knew something about the

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execution of it that I was like, huh.

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But the songs were pretty good.

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I mean, they did do a good job of

parodying the songs.

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I think there was something about the

song, even those, like they sort of

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like...

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did what you might expect in parodying

these songs, even though they sort of went

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over the top too.

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So they were a means to the end for me.

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It's like, good, we're not watching the

rest of this mockumentary.

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We're just watching a music video.

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The film itself was constructed in these

pieces.

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And it was just another way to get further

along in the run time.

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OK, we're going to do this thing and

they're going to spoof something, which on

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the surface sounds like a good idea.

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But I thought I'd laugh more and I didn't.

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So there we are.

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literally the PM Dawn was the only one I

really laughed at.

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Some of them were overdone.

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The LL Cool J parody was interesting

because it was like they had a beef now.

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It was like Tasty Taste had a beef with

Ice Cold and like he's literally like

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chiseling a big block of ice and it's in

black and white just like the Mama Said

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Knock You Out video.

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So I was like, okay, I get it.

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It's kind of funny.

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like a on the nose a lot and I thought,

you know, something like this, it didn't

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have to go so obvious, even though

sometimes it went over the top.

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So, yeah, I think that was one of my

gripes.

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Right, right.

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I think that Booty Juice video was like a

parody of MC Hammer's Pumps and a Bump

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video.

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As if it needed more parodying.

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you're right.

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I remember Hammer getting parodied on like

In Living Color and yeah, and Vanilla Ice

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getting parodied there and they did some

good parodies on that show back in the

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day.

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Mm -hmm.

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I think that's what I think that's what

like having seen CB4 and having seen Don't

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Drink Your Juice in the Hood Like this was

like the third place one and I'm like,

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yeah, you know, I've seen this kind of

idea already Even though this came out

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before I think before those other two,

right?

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Yeah, this is 92 or three So yeah, like

well, I've seen this idea already and I

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didn't need to see it in this one

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I mean, there's a reason that this one

doesn't have that cachet as those other

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ones.

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people loved it.

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I mean, maybe I might have loved this if I

had seen this first and like when it came

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out, I probably would have liked it more

as a younger man.

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But now I...

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Yeah, exactly.

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That's what I was thinking too.

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I was like, had I seen this when it first

came out, I would have probably been

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falling off the chair.

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Because I could see exactly what they were

referring to.

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But I was just like, all right.

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to compete with Chris Rock in CB4 and the

Wayans Brothers in Don't Drink Your Juice

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in The Hood.

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That's tough competition.

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I mean, Rusty Cundieff's done a lot of

good stuff after this.

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So it's not like he's not funny, but I

don't know, it didn't land with me.

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Yeah, I agree.

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Good point.

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So that being said, like, I thought there

was a few side -splittingly funny moments.

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The one PM Dawn, I won't rehash that

again, but that really got me laughing.

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The other one that I thought was funny is

the book, the FYM book, like F Y 'all Mo

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Fos.

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And he was just like, it was funny.

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It was a funny concept.

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And I think, you know, I've seen other

books,

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out there along those same lines that

people have produced.

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You walk through Barnes and Noble or

something, or you see these books and it's

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a similar theme.

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And I'm like, you know what, actually I'm

like, I'm like, buy the book.

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You know, you have a bad day.

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And it's like, F you all mofos.

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The other thing is like the DJ scratching,

they went over to the top and you know, he

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was scratching with his butt, his foot,

other body parts.

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And then the kids watching the Jam Boys

and NWH beef in the school and the kids...

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Hehehe.

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It gets out of control.

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Yeah.

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That was a good idea that landed with me.

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Yeah, and then the baby had a beeper on

his little hat.

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I thought that was funny at one point.

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part was, I think that was pretty

inspired.

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I didn't laugh like that much, but I

laughed some.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Any other moments hit either of you guys?

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Like, strike you as funny.

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You mentioned it, that DJ demo scene had

me, I mean, as a DJ, that had me, I was

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dying.

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That part had me laughing.

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Those two hit like, okay, okay.

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He's going, okay.

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Yeah, that part had me laughing.

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And there was another part, when they were

driving and the cops pulled them over, and

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And there was another part, when they were

driving and the cops pulled them over, and

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then one guy, the cop says,

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I got a lot of coffee and donuts in me, so

don't push me.

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I was like, what?

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I don't know why.

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It was just something about that line that

had me cracking up.

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Like, I laughed for about five minutes.

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I'm like, why am I laughing so hard?

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But yeah, and then that Jam Boys and, you

know, NWH's beef with the kids around.

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That was funny, how everybody just started

running out of the room.

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What?

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man.

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that escalated pretty quickly in front of

the kids.

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All in all, the last takeaway is it's

debatable whether the movie holds up.

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So Dyno Wright, you already mentioned that

this wasn't your favorite and you gave a

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couple of reasons.

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We've seen other parodies that have done a

much better job, but any other points to

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that effect?

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yeah, you know, there's sort of the

standard like, okay, this movie's from a

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certain time period.

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And then that time period, there was

racism and homophobia and misogyny.

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But that was almost like beside the point,

like that was like part of the deal.

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if you're spoofing gangsta rap, then that

was a lot of the themes that were in it.

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And so whether this makes this movie,

still good, many years later, 30 years

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later.

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I'm not sure.

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I really wasn't sure what the point of the

movie was, even though you go through this

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story arc of such as it is, like they come

up, they have a lot of success, and then

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they come down.

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I don't know, does money change

everything?

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Is that sort of the point?

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I think I go back to my original point

where CB4 and Don't Drink Your Juice in

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the Hood were...

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a little better executed and probably more

worth your time than going back to this

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one.

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But not to say that Rusty Cundieff isn't

worth seeing.

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He went on to do Chappelle's show, like a

lot of episodes of Chappelle's show, and

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those are some of the most brilliant

comedy that there is.

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valid points.

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Boogie, how about for you about this movie

holding up?

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Any words on that?

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I mean, I remember when we decided to

watch this movie in the back of my head, I

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remember when the movie came out, and I'm

like, why didn't I watch it when it came

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out?

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I don't know, I think it was something

about it that looked a little too silly

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for me at the time, which is really weird

because I really enjoy comedies.

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I do think that...

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Had I watched it back then, I probably

would have enjoyed it a little bit more

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than watching it as, you know, as I

approached, you know, 50 watching it.

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And I was like, okay, it's, yeah, it's

not, it's not.

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Like Dyno Wright said, the execution

compared to like CB4 and, you know, Don't

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Drink Your Juice, you know, and other

parodies that have been done since then.

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I don't think it necessarily holds up as

well.

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But like I was, I was trying to see if

maybe it was just me.

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So I went on, I was looking up other

people's reviews of it.

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And like Dyno Wright said, there's people

out there that actually absolutely love

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it.

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They think it's the funniest movie ever

made.

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I'm like, wow.

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Okay.

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All right.

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So I mean, in some people's minds, I guess

it does hold up.

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Will I watch it again?

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I probably will watch it again because I

really want to see if I missed these other

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points and other perspectives.

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Like we were talking with Chuck D said, if

you want to be an expert, you got to see

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all of the perspectives, not just

something that you enjoy.

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You got to try to dip in and see other

people's views and see what's out there.

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So.

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With that in mind, I'll watch it again

just to make sure that what I'm feeling at

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the moment is not incorrect.

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Or if I'm just gonna be like, all right,

you know what?

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Yeah, I was right.

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I probably shouldn't have watched it

again.

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There were a couple things I liked.

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And they were more like the subtle jokes

that you'd sort of, they're sort of right

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there, but they don't make a big deal out

of them.

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I thought, actually thought they were more

clever.

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The one was during the climactic standoff

scene at the end, when Ice Cold pulled his

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gun out, there's a condom on it.

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I'll say that, that was good.

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And then when they're in the record store

and they talk about whether you get your

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own divider.

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And so this is so anachronistic.

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Yeah.

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But when you get your own divider, that

means you've made it.

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And you're not in the generic like end

section in the back where the records or

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the CDs are.

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I thought, you know, that that rings true.

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And I think a lot of things like even

though they were like exaggerated

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parodies, like it didn't really ring true.

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And I think in CB4 and Don't Drink Your

Juice in the Hood, they did ring true.

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And I think that's why they worked better

than this.

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And so, yeah, I feel like that's.

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why it didn't work for me and maybe why it

may not hold up now if someone hasn't seen

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it already and already locked in on this.

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So yeah.

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Yeah, I could see this film having sort of

a cult following.

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And I think to your point earlier,

DynoWright It's like, if you had seen it

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at the time and you're like, this is my

movie.

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Like this made me laugh right there in the

moment.

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Then I could see it.

437

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It actually had a decent Rotten Tomatoes

audience score.

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And even Roger Ebert, when he had reviewed

it, gave him, gave it like three stars.

439

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Yeah, I thought so.

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So yeah, I mean, I was impressed that it

was Rusty Cundieff who didn't have a big

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resume back then.

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put it all together.

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it did have that ridiculous, it had a

funny disclaimer in the beginning, which

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kind of set the tone.

445

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It was like, we're going to use words like

booty hoe and this and that.

446

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And they repeated it a few times.

447

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And yeah, I mean, that was it.

448

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It was like, they're not trying to

accomplish much other than have a good

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time and kind of poke fun at the hip hop

genre and culture at the time.

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I guess they didn't try to do too much and

I don't think they.

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could accomplish all that much.

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Yeah, it's something to look at.

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I remember in passing one of our events

that we went to, Cap Cee mentioned, our

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friend Cap Cee, the other DJ that we know,

had said, yeah Fear of a Black Hat, that's

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a hip hop movie, right?

456

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And he was like, yeah, that's definitely a

hip hop movie.

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And I think he laughed.

458

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He thought that was funny.

459

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So yeah, I mean, didn't win an award.

460

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Not that it's going to win an award.

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But.

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Yeah.

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I got a chuckle out of some of the songs

in a couple of scenes.

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One of the other funny things that I

picked up on was when they were talking

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about riots and they're like, well, you

guys think that we're lazy if we go riot

466

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and we take furniture stuff, but hey,

moving that end table or that couch and

467

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finding the matching thing and going back

and forth, that's a lot of work or

468

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something like that.

469

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See, there were some good parts.

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There were some good parts.

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The three complexion thing that they did

with Marcus Garvey and Bob Marley and

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Malcolm X, that did make me laugh.

473

00:25:22,916 --> 00:25:25,750

I felt that was pretty inspired.

474

00:25:27,500 --> 00:25:29,250

Yeah, definitely had his moments.

475

00:25:29,250 --> 00:25:30,583

Had its moments.

476

00:25:31,166 --> 00:25:36,083

But the way it made me feel at the end,

like, cause my son was on the couch while

477

00:25:36,083 --> 00:25:38,375

I was finishing it up and he was like, was

this good?

478

00:25:38,375 --> 00:25:41,708

And it's one of those things is like,

would you recommend it to someone of like

479

00:25:41,708 --> 00:25:42,458

the younger generation?

480

00:25:42,458 --> 00:25:48,375

I was like, yeah, it was as they say mid,

you know, these guys as the young crowd

481

00:25:48,375 --> 00:25:49,833

says it's mid.

482

00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,041

So yeah.

483

00:25:51,041 --> 00:25:54,125

direct them to other work by Rusty

Cundieff.

484

00:25:54,208 --> 00:25:55,250

exactly.

485

00:25:57,250 --> 00:26:01,541

Alright, so we're gonna have a tough

decision here with our rating here that we

486

00:26:01,541 --> 00:26:03,000

typically do.

487

00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,625

So if you guys, hopefully you guys have

given it a little bit of thought.

488

00:26:06,791 --> 00:26:15,916

On the fence from what I hear in our

commentary, but let's go around and do our

489

00:26:15,916 --> 00:26:16,791

ratings.

490

00:26:18,083 --> 00:26:24,875

So Boogie, for fear of a black hat, will

you bring that funky flick back or leave

491

00:26:25,833 --> 00:26:26,916

it in the vault?

492

00:26:27,083 --> 00:26:34,000

So I was thinking about the words that I

use and I think that I am going to watch

493

00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:38,750

it one more time and then put it in the

vault and leave it there.

494

00:26:40,250 --> 00:26:43,208

always bending the rules and living on the

edge.

495

00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:46,791

All right.

496

00:26:46,791 --> 00:26:47,875

All right.

497

00:26:47,875 --> 00:26:48,500

DynoWright?

498

00:26:48,500 --> 00:26:51,958

How about you bring the funky flick back

or leave it in the vault?

499

00:26:52,333 --> 00:26:53,916

I'm going to leave it in the vault.

500

00:26:56,500 --> 00:27:03,375

And for myself, I will also leave it in

the vault, despite some of those things

501

00:27:03,375 --> 00:27:07,791

making me laugh, but there's a lot more

comedy out there that I'd rather continue

502

00:27:07,791 --> 00:27:08,708

to see.

503

00:27:10,208 --> 00:27:11,916

Gotta draw a line somewhere.

504

00:27:12,291 --> 00:27:14,083

Too much content out there.

505

00:27:14,083 --> 00:27:16,833

Too much content, you gotta draw a line.

506

00:27:19,791 --> 00:27:21,458

It'd be the vault.

507

00:27:22,291 --> 00:27:23,583

Yeah.

508

00:27:23,583 --> 00:27:26,125

Fucking got the door open a little bit.

509

00:27:26,125 --> 00:27:28,166

Then he's gonna close it.

510

00:27:28,208 --> 00:27:28,916

So it's in a vault.

511

00:27:28,916 --> 00:27:29,666

So what does that mean?

512

00:27:29,666 --> 00:27:32,625

I mean, there's a clamoring for it at some

point.

513

00:27:32,625 --> 00:27:36,916

Maybe it comes out of the vault, but put

aside.

514

00:27:44,416 --> 00:27:49,500

Hip Hop Movie Club is produced by your

HHMC's JB, Boogie and Dyno Wright.

515

00:27:49,500 --> 00:27:51,208

Theme music by Boogie.

516

00:27:51,375 --> 00:27:54,666

Whether you're listening to the podcast or

watching us on YouTube, please give us a

517

00:27:54,666 --> 00:27:55,375

follow.

518

00:27:55,375 --> 00:27:57,041

It's a real power up for us.

519

00:27:57,041 --> 00:27:58,458

Thanks for tuning in.

520

00:28:00,833 --> 00:28:04,166

And remember, don't hate, consolidate.

521

00:28:04,166 --> 00:28:08,541

Consolidate your activities, your

organized, consolidate your debt,

522

00:28:08,541 --> 00:28:09,583

consolidate whatever.

523

00:28:09,583 --> 00:28:11,958

Consolidate your debt.

524

00:28:12,375 --> 00:28:12,583

this.

525

00:28:12,583 --> 00:28:16,625

We're gonna take the good movies and keep

them out and put this one in the vault

526

00:28:16,625 --> 00:28:21,291

Yes.

527

00:28:21,500 --> 00:28:22,500

Yeah.

528

00:28:25,583 --> 00:28:26,375

Hehe.

529

00:28:26,375 --> 00:28:31,041

I sound like Phil Rizzuto promoting a

reverse mortgage or something.

530

00:28:31,875 --> 00:28:33,583

The money store.

531

00:28:34,875 --> 00:28:35,708

man.

532

00:28:36,916 --> 00:28:40,125

I have to say I only learned of Phil

Rizzuto from the money store.

533

00:28:40,125 --> 00:28:42,791

I didn't realize he was a ball player

until later.

534

00:28:44,708 --> 00:28:50,458

It wasn't until years later that I

realized he was on the Meatloaf, Paradise

535

00:28:50,458 --> 00:28:53,375

on a Dashboard Light, that that was him

doing the broadcasting.

536

00:28:53,375 --> 00:28:54,708

You know that?

537

00:28:55,458 --> 00:28:57,458

That was Phil Rizzuto.

538

00:28:58,250 --> 00:29:00,000

Rounding third, he's going for home.

539

00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,958

You know, gotta go all the way tonight.

540

00:29:01,958 --> 00:29:03,625

That is Phil Rizzuto.

541

00:29:04,041 --> 00:29:07,375

So I know Yankees fans know that.

542

00:29:07,375 --> 00:29:09,625

Yeah, see, yeah, exactly.

543

00:29:09,625 --> 00:29:10,541

Mm -hmm.

544

00:29:11,625 --> 00:29:15,416

How 'bout that bonus, bonus knowledge for

the people.

545

00:29:17,666 --> 00:29:19,000

a much younger Phil Rizzuto.

546

00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:24,333

Like I'm used to listening to him when he

was in his later stages of broadcasting,

547

00:29:24,875 --> 00:29:27,125

calling people Huckleberries and stuff.

548

00:29:27,500 --> 00:29:29,083

Holy cow.

549

00:29:29,916 --> 00:29:34,916

But yeah, the younger voice, that song was

in the, I want to say late seventies,

550

00:29:34,916 --> 00:29:37,625

probably mid to late seventies.

551

00:29:38,125 --> 00:29:39,291

But it is his voice.

552

00:29:39,291 --> 00:29:43,208

There's not too many baseball announcers.

553

00:29:43,458 --> 00:29:47,291

on hit tracks, so interesting bit of

trivia.

554

00:29:47,291 --> 00:29:48,625

Yeah, exactly.

555

00:29:50,041 --> 00:29:51,166

Yeah.

556

00:29:53,250 --> 00:29:53,625

Right on.